/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>59096314
Guys how do we save the K712/K7XX?
Those peaks at 2khz, 7khz, around 13khz (not shown in measurments), those bloated low mids, that huge dip at 3khz - what is this?

>>59096393
Everyone who cares already moved to Sennheiser.

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>>59096314
In the previous thread I mentioned how expensive genuine replacement earpads for HD600 are... well, I just bought $8 paid from china. Well, I just spent 30 min going through every ebay listing for earpads and noticed that they're all pretty much the same. Same pics, same descriptions... just the prices are different. I think they're all buying from the same factory/manufacturer in china. Anyway, I bought the cheapest pair.

Has anyone bough these chink replacement earpads? How did they work out?

ARE M50 ANY GUD

>>59096567
>I think they're all buying from the same factory/manufacturer in china

Precisely what they're doing.

>Has anyone bough these chink replacement earpads? How did they work out?

Felt kinda scratchy. Not sure if they're real velour.

>>59096954
They're pretty good bassy headphones. Really need to change the earpads though.

>>59096972
>Felt kinda scratchy. Not sure if they're real velour.
Velour is synthetic. There is no such thing as "real velour". I did some research. The might feel different because synthetic material is different or they're not worn in enough.

Also, before buying, I took apart my HD600 and looked at the earpads closely and these chink ones look exactly the same from the back.... same plastic cup, same synthetic backing (that soft polyethylene shopping-bag texture that connects plastic and velour). Either the same factory in china is making genuine Senns pads or chinks have reverse engineered them to a really high degree. Or all these pics are lying and chink pads look nothing like they do in pictures (I don't think that's the case because buyers would say something).

Anyway, I'll report on how they feel in a month when they arrive (I presume that's how long it will take). I fucking refuse to pay >$40 for fucking earpads. I change them 2x a year and don't wanna spend all this money on fucking sponge.

Are there any memory foam earpads for HD600/650? Anyone know?

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>>59096466

>>59097183
>I change them 2x a year
That's a very...short time to use the earpads for. Why do you discard them so soon?
>Are there any memory foam earpads for HD600/650?
You can force a lot of things on, none that are really designed that way.

>>59096393
HD600.

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Okay I figured it is too childish to wear headphones outside. Guess I'll go back to IEMs however utter shit they sound like.

>>59097280
Stretching guides + morons = ??

What is the point of headphone tube amps?

Seems pretty retarded to drop money on a nice headphone with low distortion only to add some distortion with an amp.

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>>59096314

what are the headphones in this pic

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>>59097375
trash

>>59097295
>That's a very...short time to use the earpads for. Why do you discard them so soon?
Mostly hygiene. I wear them 8hr+ every day. I also like the feel of new earpads and don't like pancaked ones. I tried washing them but that only cleans them and they never recover the shape.

>You can force a lot of things on, none that are really designed that way.
well, if they cut the memory foam the same way they cut regular foam, it would work. I'd pay $50 for memory foam ones because those would last forever and I'd be OK with just washing them.

>>59097408
Looks similar to
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD25-1-II-Closed-Back-Headphones/dp/B000TDZOXG

>>59097408
Sennheiser HD 25-1

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>>59097482

>>59096393
By using an equalizer or headphones that are free of such problems.

>>59094310
>better diaphragm control
No.
>less voice coil mass
No.
>lower noise floor
No.
>lower distortion
No.

>>59097409
Look, we've got a stretching guide following moron.

>>59097535
Stick to your monster cables bro

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Just ordered DT990 as a second headphones to have some fun because my HD650 are kinda boring. Did I fucked up?

>>59097653
Sure if you don't post any more pseudoscience here.

What do you think about superlux HD 681?

>>59097673
They're decent. They sound sort of like an open DT770-80. Some say they have harsh treble but it doesn't seem too bad to me.

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So somebody here said that the Superlux HD668B were really nice budget headphones. I had gone from a pair of HD201s to slightly uncomfortable 202s (over ear to slightly on ear), and had decided to try something new.

Holy fucking Jesus these things give blowjobs left and right for free. They're so fucking comfortable, the audio quality is fantastic, and the detachable cables make them so they're really portable, if that's your thing. Going from a closed to a semi-open is jarring, though, as I'm noticing that in some songs I'm not hearing some things as clearly, but then picking up on things I hadn't heard before, so it evens out.

Overall, these are a fantastic purchase. I'm considering picking up the alternate pads sometime in the future, but honestly, the amount of comfort these things offer regardless of pads makes me consider skipping them all together. If these things can comfortably fit around my fat head with no squeezing the very first time I put them on, I doubt I can find anything as comfy again.

TL:DR: Amazing, ty

>>59097673
Yes, you don't need more than one pair of headphones that serve the same purpose.

>>59097707
But they have different sound!

>>59097530
not wanting to be a fucking slob like you is not autism. earpads are in a constant contact with skin and they accumulate dead skin cells and breed bacteria. If you're not at least washing them every few months, you're a baka.

>>59097280
>>59097409
Had various senn headphones for 4+ years. Never broke any of them. 600/650 don't break unless you overstretch them. These pics are from retards.

>>59097679
Holy shit get a load of this /g/ grade electrical engineer here guys. So knowledgeable he doesn't even know higher Z loads increase damping factor and maximize voltage transfer across variable loads.

>>59097737
You can get different sound with an equalizer.

>>59097482
You aren't supposed to wash the pads. That usually makes them degrade faster.
Lint rollers and a damp cloth, possibly with some detergent, are the way to go.

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>>59097740

>>59097762
Within the capacities of headphones.

>>59097811
You can make the HD 650 sound like a DT 990.

>>59097673
HD700 or HD600 would have been decent options...

Are M40s a good first set of closed phones?

>>59097811
>You can make the HD 650 sound like a DT 990.

Good luck doing it the other way around :D :D :D

>>59097783
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/headband-hd-650 IN STOCK!

>>59097778
>You aren't supposed to wash the pads. That usually makes them degrade faster.
No it doesn't. Water doesn't do shit to that sponge. What degrades them is mechanical agitation so don't put them in a washer and wash them in a bowl with some detergent and gently massage them.

>Lint rollers and a damp cloth, possibly with some detergent, are the way to go.
That won't get rid of sweat/dead skin cells.

>>59097822
I don't think so. We'll see when the 990s arrive.
>>59097830
HD700 a bit pricey, HD600 are the same headphones.

>>59097783
Stretching guides. Morons.

>>59097830
>>59097861
If you're looking for a more fun headphone the HD600 & HD700 are more neutral and "boring" than the HD650.

>>59097858
The foam is not necessarily resistant to detergents used.
Oils bond very well to the adhesive, and loose surface matter are broadly picked by a roller.
In any case, deeper oils are also what you are supposed to use a damp cloth for.

>>59097858
>>59097955
I can't comment on the Sennheiser pads but I've gently washed Beyer pads with detergent and it wrecked the foam inside.

>>59097378
I dont believe its childish, just some headphones are too big to wear outside.

What's a good set of V-shaped cans to try if you've never messed with the signature before apart from EQing?

Nowhere to try headphones where I live, so $100 US is my budget, over ear, open or closed.

>>59097701
AKG K240 velours are less than $10 btw

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>>59097934
"Fun" is relative.

I find the result of coloring to be boredom.

Neutral is fun to me. <3 HD600.

Why is there so much snake oil when it comes to amps/DACs? What does a $1000 amp/DAC do that a $100 doesn't?

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>>59098188

CB-1 or SHP9500s

leaning towards to CB-1, but the build quality has me spooked.

>>59098429
Mine haven't snapped.

I'm not a moron following stretching guides, overstretching my phones, and snapping the headband. I just wore them normally for a few days and they became comfortable.

>>59098317
Gotta add extra zeros on the right to differentiate from the riffraff.

Same with phones, really.

>>59098317
you can take a fancy photo of your $1000 amp, post it on reddit and get some upvotes

>>59098317
>Why is there so much snake oil
Because audiophiles are fucking idiots

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>>59098576

>>59097701
3/5, they're ok. I find them thin sounding though the bass is nice and warm. Clamps on a little too tight, and the stock pads are not that great. If it wasn't for the tin, thin sounding high end they'd be 4/5 bretty gud

Is snapheissen a meme or is it one fag who keep posting the same thing

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>when you buy fakes despite your best efforts

>>59097679
Shut up. Stop spreading misinfo and stop pretending to be an electrical engineer.

>>59098977
pretty sure it's one guy whos asshurt because he snapped his

Are the RE-400 as prone to breaking as people make them seem?

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>>59098977
see >>59097783

>>59099141
>his head is big
sorry you lose the generic lottery, hope you kill yourself and remove your shit gene from the pool

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>>59099165

>>59099168
who are you shilling for senpai? can't think of a headphone at that price range that match HD600

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>>59098429
>>59098675
>>59099141
>>59099168
>>59097783
>>59097409
>>59097280
All that shilling... kek... buttmad jealous poorfag or just a paid pajeet? I hope you're getting paid because doing it for free means you're mentally ill.

>>59098451
If you're spooked by the build quality, order them straight from Status for the warrenty period or Amazon. If you want open back, there's also the OB-1

>>59099168
>can't shill for any company
>he does it for free

Anyone have an info graph about why muh beats are shit?

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Does somebody know how good these sound? Also, I saw a chink version for like $30, I'd like to know if they are worth

>>59099355
they're not shit anymore. they've fixed issues years ago. those graphs are old.

>>59099407
I find that hard to believe

>>59099415
see innerfidelity reviews. Original SOLO's were shit but they fixed that sound sig with SOLO2.

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>>59096314
Best budget headphones coming through.

>>59099377
They're a nice NigBass IEM at a premium of 'muh shure'. Link the $30 Chink version please?

>>59099475
Literally no bass

>>59099489
Are you this black? Get 668B's/SR850's if you want more bass

>>59099503
>Are you this black?
From the waist down yeah

>>59099475
What is this?

>>59099568
Philips SHP9500 Open Back

>>59099475
You posted the wrong picture of an HD598se.

>>59099588
>budget
>$150
You certainly have a weird price bracket for budget

What kind of mics do you use with your headphones? I've been using those v-modo boompro and like attachments and they all go to shit within a few months and the mic stop working and just outputs the speaker audio instead of your voice.

>>59099165
my head is fucking huge, and i have yet to fuck up my sennheisers from the 90's.

they are just fucking meatball heads.

Too dumb to post the whole link, but this is the site I saw them:
dhgate
They look very similar

>>59099629
I bought mine on sale for like $60 ages ago

>>59099629
Goes for much lower than that.

Hell, the HD600 is currently $150.

>>59099772
Where at, anon?

>>59099662
First I had a Zalman clip om that worked just fine the some Soonhua desk mic. It just werks

>>59099475
Those aren't M40x

>>59099836
nevermind, mistake.

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>>59099475
They comfy

>>59096314
Hey goiz I need new headphones the ones i have are fucked.
>replacable cables
>slim and light
>modular, if somthing breaks i want replacments
>cheap


I dont mid if there is somthing DIY

>>59100192
>inferior version of reddit meme headphones
>good

>>59097280
>>59097409
>>59098675
>>59099141
>>59099168

anon is right, that shit happened to mines and the thing is that puting glue does shit.
I tried to fix them with a metal plate but the comfy efect was lost :(

How much should I spend on earbuds for the ipod classics with most music playing at 192 kbps, and what pairs would you guys recommend?

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>>59097280
>this akg shill again

>>59098576
I stretched mine and they came out perfect/ You're supposed to open them fully and stretch the METAL band without touching the plastic part at all. How can people get it so wrong? the metal band is strong as fuck, you just bend slightly and hold it using a decent pressure. Check them, then do it again if you want them even looser.

>>59100352
What are reddit meme headphones? M50x? They're not better than the M40x, especially for the price.

>>59100192
>Preferring closed over open

>>59100656
>he still lives with his parents

>>59100641
They're both utter shit is what I'm saying. No sense it debating which log smells worse.

>>59100710
You are comparing one budget headphones to another. Neither will be "good".

>>59100736
Compared to the DT-880s which cost around the same price on sale, they're still utter shit.

>>59100697
>he still doesn't understand why open are better

LMFAO

>>59100784
Explain it to me then.

Is the SMSL M3 a good amp for the K240?

>>59100799
Detail, sound stage, positional accuracy.

Enjoy your bass tho f.am

>>59101009
Thank you for your in-depth explanation, I see the light now.
t. retard

>>59101035
I don't need to give you in-depth or want to give you my time. Fuck off.

>>59101062
Then don't post bait.

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What does /hpg/ think of the new Denon C820?

>>59101009
>The soundstage meme

>>59101075
No bait, just facts. What closed headphones do you own lmao?

>>59101238
>one of three.

My 600's don't have good sound stage but the 702's for example do. Try more headphones you fucking faggot.

Best <100$ DAC/AMP for my HD600 ?

>>59101261
I've owned both you fucking faggot and while soundstage exists its still a meme. Headphones that leak as much as a small pair of speakers are something of a violation of convention.

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Should I pull the trigger?

>>59101316
e10k or fulla 2

>>59101316
Used O2 or Magni 2.

>>59101395
>and while soundstage exists

Bye.

>>59101444
Still a meme.

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If you compare earphones and headphones you'll notice dramatic difference in term of soundstage. This is one of the biggest reason why IEMs are literally unlistenable.

>>59101245
None, just unknowledgable on the subject.

>>59101515
Needs more cute girls.

>>59101456
No it's not. the 702's were my first proper headphones and the soundtsage is much better than my current 600's. In fact my 600's have NO soundstage at all but the positional accuracy is perfect, along with the rest of the headphone. Call it soundstage, call it separation. It's real.

>>59101407
go for it. can't be that bad

>>59101004
Anyone?

>>59101515
M50s have some of the worst soundstage of any full size headphone I've heard and people don't seem to be complaining. Def worse than a lot of IEMs I've tried.

There are almost 10k M50+M50x reviews on Amazon and are rated at 4.5/5 stars.

>>59101515
>This is one of the biggest reason why IEMs are literally unlistenable.
I moved to headphones few months back (from using IEMs exclusively for 4 years) and I can't listen to IEMs anymore. They all sound like crap. Unless I shove them deep into my ear canal and seal it well, they all sound like shit. I also can't stand having anything in my ear canals anymore either.

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>>59098317
>What does a $1000 amp/DAC do that a $100 doesn't?
have a fuckton of flashing LEDs

>>59101724
cant show how cool you are without that RGB bruh

>>59101771
they need to make an RGB edition with a 200% markup so it can match my RGB razer mousepad, RGB mouse, RGB keyboard and every component in my computer being RGB plus the RGB lights on my desk

do they sell RGB monitors yet?

i need some RGB speakers

RGB headphones where?

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Is the stax l700 really worth the price jump from the sr-507? ive heard of more bass impact and larger soundstage, i would really appreciate some opinions

>also

does the srm-007tii suffer from the "factory default electrostatic amp, when there are better out-of-brand options"?

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Alright, /hpg/. Switch is out in 1 week, and Breath of the Wild will have my attention during all my free time until I beat it. So I'm looking for a pair of portable headphones to go with it.

I have a pair of 558s at home. Obviously not very travel-friendly, but I'm in love with how they sound. If I could get something that sounds similar, that would be great. Budget would be $70 or ideally less (Trump Dollars) A few options I've been looking at are the Koss Porta Pro/Sporta Pro/KSC75 and Sennheiser PX100. Anyone here have experience with those, and any other recommendations? Naturally a good pair of earbuds would be an option here as well.

>>59101515
IEMs are designed to be used on the go, main focus is portability, not sound.

>>59099772
What sorcery is this?
Where?

>>59102957
Nowhere it's bullshit

owned ER-4PT for some time and just recently purchased HD600's with an Aune X1S. The imaging and infinite increase in soundstage are downright amazing, but the HD600's vocals sound flat compared to ER-4's.
Which of the two is meant to be more neutral when it comes to vocals and mids?

>Budget
my budget is about $150, not really looking to spend more than that.
>Location
US
>Source
Probably my laptop or iphone
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
No preference
>Comfort level
/comfyboys/
>Sound signature
mostly listen to classical so no need for TONS of bass or anything like that
I have a relatively (to the average Joe) good ear for quality
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-7506 Black Studio Headphones
I liked them for the most part but a wire inside them frayed after a year and they broke

>>59103105
shp9500 or hd 598

>>59102994
>Which of the two is meant to be more neutral when it comes to vocals and mids?
The ER-4.

How does the K712 sounds compared to the K240? Is it a decent upgrade?

>>59103105
HD 598s for ~$150. If not, get an HD 558 or SHP9500S.

>>59103133
Never heard the k240 before but the k712 is my third favorite headphones before the 650, then the 600.

The detail and soundstage are great and the bass is there. It's just that the bass is pretty sloppy to put it simply. They're fantastic overall though and the design is incredible imo.

>>59103105
>$150
that's such a shitty price point. I see a lot of people post $100-150 for a budget but all the good shit starts >$180 and shit between $100-150 is simply not worth the money. Sub $100 and >$180 price ranges are a lot better.

/rant

>>59103163
>before the 650, then the 600
600 is better in every which way than 650. v-shaped sound is fucking awful and you can never boost the mids without distortion while you can almost always boost the bass/highs without much distortion.

>>59103214
That's like, your opinion, anon.

>>59103163
K240 is actually quite good for the price but the K712 is significantly better in every way except for perhaps isolation. The headband on the 712 may be less comfortable over long durations. The K712 is basically the K/Q/70x with better bass.

>>59103295
no, that's what measurements show. higher model numbers and higher price don't mean better sound quality. unless you're really into v-shaped sound and if you don't care about vocals and you don't want natural sound, then 650 are better.

>>59103163
>>59103324
Have you heard the SHP9500? It's the only other headphone I've listened to. I'm sorry for being broke.

>>59103201
sorry for being poor anon.
it's already pretty irresponsible of me to be spending 150 on headphones

>>59103355
my point is that you should look at sub $100 cans since those between $100-150 aren't really worth the money. I'm not faulting you for being poor.

>>59103351
I'd like to see measurements that show HD 650 to be v-shaped. Share them with us.

>>59103385
So you'd recommend the Philips SHP9500S over the Sennheiser HD598?

>>59103351
>600 is better in every which way

That was what I was referring to, anon. Different strokes for different folks, you know, anon?

>>59103406
I would recommend HD 598s if you ignore the price advantage of the other pair. The SHP9500s are more comparable to HD 558s than 598s. It does get pretty close enough, if you're feeling a bit cheap.

>>59103441
Just to add; i'm not anon.

>>59103393
650 boring colored trash for the riffraff.

600 are the actual good phones.

>>59103406
no, of course not, but HD598 cost more than $150

>>59103471
Did you reply to the wrong post?

>Budget
250 can strech to 300 usd max
>Location
Usa
>Source
Phone, PC via SMSL M6
>Type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Will be used on the train, plane and some use in my pc so dont really dont know if open or closed
>Comfort level
Very
>Sound signature
Neutral or bassy
>Past headphones
KZ ATE and Cloud II


Also does anybody have recomendations about a DAP? Mirin the Fiio X1 II or just cheap out and get a Ruizu X2

>>59103471
Are you the same anon who keeps on shilling HD 600s no matter the preferred sound signature? I really hope you aren't.

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I for one, didn't like the 600 as much

>>59103485
Vmoda m100 is pretty bassy and comfortable with the xl pads from what I've heard.
>and get a Ruizu X2
I have one and I'm pretty sure the output impedance is really high because everything sounds bad out of it.

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>>59103513
Shame about the Ruizu, might aswell buy a Fiio

Gonna look up those V-Moda anon thanks

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>Budget
100 preferably but I am willing to spend more
>Location
US
>Source
My desktop no amp
>Type
Over ear closed
>Comfort
Comfy
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past
I'm currently using Sony monitor h250
Sorry don't have an anime girl with headphones but I got an anime girl

Should I use a crossfeed plugin in foobar?

I didn't know /g/ does these threads but I wanted to pass on some information about a great pair of earbuds I've had for the past few years

Sony MDR-XB50AP

They are extra bass earbuds and not only do they have really good bass but they also have pretty great noise isolation. They also have the remote control thing on them so you can use them as a microphone on a call or for play/pause/skip features

I got them for around $8 on ebay a few years back and they have been awesome.

>>59103214
I didn't express it well but that was my point. The 600 is the best and the 650 is second.

>>59103353
Never heard it, sorry.

>>59103511
So you prefer slight bloat over slightly more accuracy? Gotcha.

The 600 is way cleaner on it's own, if you want more bass you just add a tiny bit and it's way better than the 650 can ever be.

>>59103999
Nobody cares about your vendetta against the 650 and incessant shilling of the 600.

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>>59096314
Please help. Looking for IEM. Medium or higher isolation and neutral sound if possible. Around 50 quid.

I had sure SE215.

They sucked and died after 2 years. Driver, not cable.

I had Magic PL50. They were awesome but really flimsy and died within a year (cable break). Cable as you know is not replaceable on them.

I have MEE M6 and they are OK although really bass heavy but the cable is already dying. Should I buy a replacement cable or is there another pair you'd recommend.

Thank you.

In case you're wondering why my headphones are dying so quickly - they need to suffer through hiking, climbing, cycling and British shitty weather.

>>59103393
>I'd like to see measurements that show HD 650 to be v-shaped. Share them with us.
Innerfidelity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Es9S9tXTY
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/very-important-sennheiser-hd-580-hd-600-and-hd-650

This guy has a really good comparison of 600 vs 650:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaR34WTjYt4

Anyway, I've listened to them both and prefer HD600.

>>59104168
how are the 650 v-shaped here? do you know what v-shaped means?

>>59104106
>They sucked and died after 2 years
Sounds not so bad to me, longevity wise

>>59104176
I feel like I'm arguing an idiot.

>>59104192
i'll take it as you not knowing what v-shaped is then

>>59104183
I am considering getting them again but they do sound shit which considering the price premium compared to chinese oems is baffling.

>>59103814
Someone, please?

>>59104262
no

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Can't wait to try these out. Would wait for a review but I feel like they'll be out of stock soon enough.

>>59104199
If you had scrolled up, you would have noticed that I explained it. You obviously didn't even read/watch any of the links I provided. They answer your question.

But you don't give a fuck about facts. You're just butthurt that almost every reviewer likes HD600 more.

>>59104322
funny how neither of them mention the hd650 as being v-shaped because you don't know what v-shaped is nor are they v-shaped in any way.

it's not surprising somebody shilling the 600 so much has no idea what they're talking about

>>59104322
>links IF
>doesn't include hd650 FR graph
Tyll's own FR graphs show the hd650 to not have a v-shaped signature.

>>59104009
I'm a random drunk guy who dropped in. I don't care or know about your previous AUDIO BEEF.

The 600 is better and everyone knows this.

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>>59104322
I really hope you aren't the faggot who keeps on shilling HD 600s over everything else.

>>59104428
That's like, your opinion man.

>>59104370
he explains what the faults of HD650 are. He explains why they're colored. And emphasized bass and highs is the signature of a v-shaped sound. Just watch/read the reviews I linked.

>>59104440
there's only two people on /g/: me and some anonymous guy.

>>59104457
But this claim?
>>59104428
C'mon, anon.

Jesus christ, I've had my 668B's for 3 months with AKG K240 velour pads and I think I finally got a good seal on these. The bass is retarded now and it's beautiful.

I just wanted to say I hate all of you no life virgins wasting money on placebo memes.

>>59104507
Oh boy. What headphones do you have, anon?

Got a pair of DT 770 pros a few months back and I love them. I'm ready to get an amp though. How much do I need to spend on an amp to get a reasonably good product?

>>59104750
However much the Schiit Fulla 2 sells at.

Does replacing the HD 600's cable with one from the HD 650 really make an audible difference?

>>59099377
Dark and bassy.

I assume you're talking about the Tennmak Pro as the chink version. It's not as dark, and honestly, better than the 215.

>>59104838
no

>Budget
300 usd
>Location
Mexico
>Source
Pc via Fiio e10K and mobile use via a Fiio x1
>Type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Gonna be used daily for about 5 hrs average
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Gaymur headseat

>>59102206
Get some VE monks
Theyre quite warm like 598's. Obviously not the same, but they're surprisingly close in terms of soundstage and imaging.

>>59104979
Audio technica mth-m50x

>>59105127
didnt the m50 had nigger bass?

>>59104838
No.

>>59104979
DT770 or MSR7

Opinions]]?

>>59105127
>m50x
>neutral
niggerwhatareyoudoing

>>59105172
the bass is tight, not extended or anything, but there, dont use them for EDM or anything like that

if you want earth shaking, lobotomizing bass, get the Ultrasone Pro-900s with a JDSlabs cmoybb amp for around $200-$300

>>59104838
>Does replacing the HD 600's cable with one from the HD 650 really make an audible difference?

If you're thinking about cables altering your sound, you should start worrying...

>>59105209
Shit I intend to use them 50% for anime OST´s and the other half for EDM
So...

I need a pair of ANC headphones. I travel by bus a lot which go through a lot of tunnels, so it gets noisy. Using regular closed back headphones without ANC, I have to turn up the volume to drown out the noise.

QC35 sounds awful to me. I need a pair that sounds good without ANC too. The MSR7NC look pretty nice, but ANC is supposedly very sublte.

>>59105227
>anime OST
For what purpose?

>>59105265
I like to hear some of that stuff when I´m working

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>>59104968
>>59105173
>>59105227
Okay.

>>59105245
then try out the ultrasones m8, pretty good price, and built like a fuckign tank

however, the sound signature is strange, its basically a bassy toy, the trebles arent the best but the bass was summoned by satan himself to make love to your skull with

anyways, thats why i recommend the JDSlabs cmoybb amp, it slike $70, and if you tell them which gear youre pairing them with, they customize the amp to fit perfectly with them, fixing alot of the issues

>>59105284
I can't imagine working while listening to "GAS GAS GAS" unless this is 1940s Poland

>>59105326
I have been listening lately to the Owari No Seraph ost and some Monogatari openings

Dunno where do u get the "gas" part

>>59104979
ATH MSR7 seem to be your best choice. Although you'll be buying them from Amazon or Mercadolibre so no warranty.
If you want something about that price, although not entirely neutra but still great sounding and with the full 2 years warranty, the Momentum 2 over ear are a great choice. I bought a pair during el buen fin last year on Mercadolibre from an official store.

>>59105361
He's talking about eurobeat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8

>>59105399
Thanks anon gonna buy them from Amazon

>>59105404
Thanks for clearing that

>>59105427
Well if you go for the MSR 7 you won't be getting any warranty since the sellers I could find aren't ADs, so keep that in mind.

>>59105440
I found that Amazon us is selling them through amazon.mx

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Anyone have some more headphone-testing / mindblowing audios like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA&feature=youtu.be

What are some good headphone test files? What songs should I try on various cans to judge them?

Also, please note that YT cuts off a lot of high & low frequencies in their encoding process..

>>59105645
Bill Cantos - How Long
George Krikes - Clap Hands
Paul Thorn - Four Wheel Drive
Open Hands - Fiesta Linda

Those are the songs used by Harman to train people for critical listening.

>>59101407
>>59101615

My workmate bought look-alike chink shit phones on amazon, and the plug broke in two days. I replaced the plug for him... the phones sounded like ass and were made pretty cheap. But, they work... would be good for pod-casts at work, which is what he uses them for.

>>59105245
Anime, idols, videogame music, metal, rock, 8bit/fmsynth/trackermusic.

HD600 <3

>>59105771
>Those are the songs used by Harman to train people for critical listening.
Fascinating. Does anyone have pristine FLACs of these songs? Downloading them off YT/Soundcloud/etc defeats the purpose of the test...

>>59105910
>pristine FLACs
nice meme

>>59105839
>HD600
Just checked on my country Amazon, they are waaaay out of my budget

>>59105969
Try HD598se.

Same idea, but affordable.

>>59105993
>HD598se.
Found the non se, thats actually pretty affordable
As for the se is unavaliable through amazon

>>59106009
SE is just a colour change. normal 598 is identical other than aesthetics

>>59101407
No because they will sound like shit.

If you actually want a cheap headphone that sounds good then get a Tascam TH-02/Teac CH-02

>>59106020
Oh, didnt know that thanks

So now I´m deciding got 2 options
Buy the MSR7 for outdoor and indoor

or

Buy m40x for outdoors and the 598 for use at my pc

>>59106009
HD598 was my gateway drug to proper audio equipment.

The "Special Edition" is Amazon only, black color and comes with a convenient extra cable. Otherwise, it's identical.

my ath-ad700s are wearing out. the cable is loosening from the actual headphone. looking for something around the same price that's also really lightweight like the ad700s since i wear them for at least 12 hours a day working from home? not sure if the guides are updated or not.

just got my m50x they're not nearly as bad as /g/ said

>>59106232
they're a fine closed set of cans. I love the way they fold and how you can wear them over one ear only (DJ style).

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>>59105645
>>59105288
>>59104979
Should i buy?

>>59103115
>>59103161
Just ordered Sennheiser HD598s

Thanks lads

>Budget
$125ish or below.

>Location
US

>Source
No amps, just PC sound card

>Type of headphone
Full size

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Will never get uncomfortable

>Sound signature
A good soundstage is probably the most important thing. Mostly used for games and movies.

>Past headphones
AD700s, really loved how comfy these were, but literally no bass. Also had 558s but found them mega uncomfortable and didn't like the open back.

>>59106355
like the only thing is mids aren't amazing but they are definitely worth the price and im coming from a pair of rha750s

>>59106388
Do you need really the wireless feature?

IMO, no, dont buy

>>59106408
Im curious because i never tried wireless well anything really involving headphones/earbuds

>>59106388
>IEM
>Wireless
I'd never buy IEMs over $10 again. There's no point. they all sound like crap. and buying wireless is silly.

>>59106446
What are wrongs of iem's?

>>59106470
There is nothing "wrong" with iems, but their form factor imposes limitations not found in other headphones.

>>59106405
NVX XPT100

Sup guys, any other neutral cans like m40x out there? Probably around the same price

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https://www.amazon.com/Sades-SA902-Headphones-Revolution-Canceling/dp/B01A0VQOCQ/ref=pd_lpo_147_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BZAQNK25HX2XTW80G149

Gonna schill these every chance I get.

>very durable
>audio quality is better than anything you'll get for less than three digits in $
>microphone is high quality, NOT flexible as advertised, but is adjusted in increments
>good cord length and durability
>USB
>Only $27

Not too good to be true. Ordered a second pair less than a week ago. If you don't want a mic, fold it up and ignore it. I've never seen an excuse to get a different headset than this for less than $300.

Thoughts on B&W P5?

>>59106402
>Just ordered Sennheiser HD598s

Great. I hope you enjoy them anywhere as much as I did the past two years.

Just a little aftermarket advice:
* Don't follow stretch guides and snap your set, just wear them normally for a few days and they'll get very comfortable.
* Allow a week to get used to the neutral (actually ever so slightly bright) sound signature.
* Don't EQ no matter how tempting, especially so in the first weeks, or you'll never get used to the neutral signature (magic moment where it start to sound trully awesome).

And, keep in mind that while they sound good as-is with most sources, that's still at most 70% of what they can offer (to be clear I'm talking about reproduction of original sound. Not volume.). Their true power is unleashed by pairing them with an amp. I suggest the schiit fulla2, as that's the absolute best of the <$100 options, and definitely worth the $25 or so over that chink "fiio e10k" thing.

>>59101515
Meh, I don't touch my other headphones and I exclusively use my ER4SR these days.

Also soundstage isn't real, kiddo.

>>59103471
It's impossible for one to hate HD650 and love HD600, they are more alike than different. I have both and I know you're full of shit because you're obsessed with defending your purchases. Stop shilling.

>>59107012
Nobody's saying anything about hate.

It's just most reviewers who have both prefer HD600. I went through a trillion such releases before ordering my HD600.

>>59107157
s,releases,reviews,g

>>59107012
>Also soundstage isn't real, kiddo.

Try some grados.

I'd say it's artificial shit, but phones tend to alter soundstage, either by making sound sources appear closer or farther.

If I want to use my motherboard's realtek output as a line out to an O2 amp, what settings should it be on?

Speakers 100% volume?

>>59107200
Generally, yes.

Unless your motherboard actually distorts sound at 100%. Some have that problem.

Are the HD598's a good choice for anime music? I have a $200 budget.

>>59106938
>gayman cans

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HD 800 vs HD 800 S?

>>59107012
Soundstage is real but sort of a gimmick

My DT-990's arrived today and I'm liking them, but I'd like an amp for a few reasons, especially so I don't have to plug the headphones in to the computer because it sits far from my desk.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LP3AMC2/ref=crt_ewc_img_dp_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A19UWB7L0RHHLP

Would this be a good idea? Also:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A09KCJ4/ref=pd_luc_rh_sbs_02_01_t_img_lh?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Would this be a good idea for a headphone stand? I like how it has the circle at the bottom to hold the cables.

>>59107418
Which version of the DT990s did you get?

The Fiio 10K is pretty weak and can only put out 200mW into a 32 Ohm load.

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Worth it? These are basically at hd600 level

>>59107499
250 Ohm pro's.

About to buy a akg 712 for 300aud , currently have a Sony ma900

Anything else that's better? Mainly for gaming and music

>>59107552
HD600, DT880.

>>59107281
Yes. They're a good choice in general, and they are a good choice for anime music.

2 years of HD598 here, although I've got the HD600 (finally!) this week.

>>59107324
The former have a silibance issue. S fixes it. Supposedly.

Both are... expensive AF. I'd love a sample to review... :P

>>59107561
DT880s over K712s? How come?

>>59106842
Status CB-1

>>59107511
>These are basically at hd600 level

Hahaha.

>>59107561
>DT880

Does afaik fall short of HD598. Seen a bunch of such reviews.

Not really worth listing together with the HD600.

>>59107625
Okay and should I buy the FiiO E10K with it?

>>59107511
>These are basically at hd600 level
Are you on crack?

>>59107524
I think you will probably want something more powerful than the E10K. The Fiio K5 would be better.

>>59107749
Scratch that as you will need the player to dock for DAC functionality.

You may want to get something like a modi/magni or odac.

>>59106938
You can "schill" those as much as you like. It doesn't change the fact that they most likely are not worth the price.

>claiming a $27 gaming headset sounds as good as a good headphone that cost 300 dollars

Insanity. Also you can take one look at them and tell they are not durable. The leds look laughable.

Good quality gaming mics can be had for 3 dollars.

>good cord length and durability
It's braided so i'll probably give you this one.

It does have a USB cord but i'm not following how that makes the headphone sound or function any better.

I doubt they sound extremely awful I just doubt they sound nearly as good as something similar priced like a Superlux product.

>>59107552
Well the Sony Ma900 is already wonderful for gaming as it has a wide soundstage. AKG K712 is more of a sidegrade. It also has a wide soundstage.

>>59107561
Just like these are side grades. Except these don't have the soundstage of the Ma900 and K712. These however could be better for music depending on your preferences.

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>>59107797
Not anon, but it is a common known fact that headphones from gaming companies offer better price-to-performance than headphones from "audiophile" companies.

Take pic related, for example. $300, yet it provides better sound than 90% of what you throw at it.

>>59107797
My room mate and I have burnt through a headset for every hair on your sack. I've tried out more floor models in hardware retailers than most actual audiophiles.

They're on my head right now. I'd have paid $150 for this headset and I'm extremely cheap.

Honestly. I feel like I've just discovered that we're not in a geocentric universe and no one cares. I WILL be buying 4 or 5 of these headsets when I get another job as backups.

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>>59103351
>HD650
>V-shaped

>>59103351
>>59107899
Yeah the HD650 are more dark with the freq response rolling off the higher you go.

>>59107324
The cheaper of the 2. To fix a headphone usually they have to fuck something up. Hence why people claim the HD800S isn't quite as detailed and doesn't have quite the sound-stage as the HD800.

The 400 dollar price difference isn't worth it.

>>59107864
>yet it provides better sound than 90% of what you throw at it
What did he mean by this?

>>59107712
>Okay and should I buy the FiiO E10K with it?

Schitt fulla2. Not chinese, much better spec'd too, just some $25 more.

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>>59107511
>These are basically at hd600 level
That's the funniest thing I've heard in fucking weeks. Thanks for a laugh, anon. HiFiman is so fucking retarded that you have to go all the way up to HE-6 to beat 600-series Senns. It's all due to the fucking driver they use.

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>>59107892
Why you need back ups if they're so well built?

checkmate gayman fag

>>59107864
$300, yet doesn't hold a candle to a $100 Sennheiser HD558...

>>59107989
Well, by your logic...
>one headset
>5 backups
>male life expectancy is ~72
>I'm 21.5 and healthy
>72-21=51
>51 divided by 6 = 8.5
>meaning each headset has a life expectancy of 8.5 years
>for $27

Thank you for supporting my point, whether your logic is questionable or not.

>>59107797
I see, thanks for the info, if the 712 is a sidegrade what could be considered an upgrade?

>>59107973
Full2 will only be able to output around 50mW into a 250 Ohm load which isn't great.

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>>59107946
>>59108000
I'd have you know this specific set of headphones have been praised by both the Reddit and Head-Fi community. Calling it a "flagship killer" while also comparing them to much more expensive headphone such as the HD 800S' and LD-Xs. Anyone who says otherwise is a massive faggot hell bent on defying the audiophile community. There's a reason why Razer no longer sell these headphones; doing otherwise will literally destroy the audiophile market. Good thing their gaming headsets are still competitive to more expensive headphones such as the HD 600s and K712s. Honestly, I hope you all kill yourselves for being so fucking dense. Jesus Christ, I need to take a nap.

Even this Sennheiser shill agrees with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ui4Eo2WRxs&t=292s

>3:00
>Despite only being to afford to use the internal DAC found in our motherboards, it still competed against more more expensive headphones
>Our HD 600s and HD 650s Sennheiser sent us sounded thin and veiled compared to the Razer Kraken Forged
>Overall, I would recommend these, and if I were Razer I would sell them at a much more expensive price tag

Kek. How can "audiophile" headphones even compete?

>>59108173
Actually posting a LinusShillTips video with a straight face.

I've got $250 US to spend.

I'm debating between using it to buy a fulla 2 and either 598's or the DT770 80 ohms.

Or,

Just picking up X2's.

I like neutral and v shaped depending what I'm listening to.

What should I do, anon?

>Budget
200, flexible but cheaper is better
>Location
USA
>Source
laptop and iphone se
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
open or at least semi open
>Comfort level
very comfy
>Sound signature
neutral. Ideally a bit bassy and with a detailed (though not necessarily bright) treble

>>59107712
You should try and play it off of your motherboard audio, and if it sounds fine and loud, then don't get it.

>>59108239
DT880 32 or 250 ohm. Also one of the most comfy headphones out there.

>>59108000
Lol, calling the sennheisers veiled.

You can tell it's a troll review.

>>59108158
Sure, except that happens to be enough for most headphones out there, and certainly more than what a fiio e10k can do (only 200 mW at 32 Ω).

Compare specs (used the hd600 + amp pages as the interface fucking sucks, but look at just the amps)
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/fiio/e10k
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/schiit/fulla-2

>>59108222
Fulla 2 with 598's are prob the best value and the Fulla 2 will drive them easier than the 770-80. It will also be the more neutral sound setup.

>>59108265
> if it sounds loud enough you don't need an amp.
>>59107712

==On DAC+AMP devices==

The DAC: Converts digital to analog. Your computer does this already if it has an analog output. So does your phone. Generally, this is a well understood problem that's more than solved by now, and cheaply so. Some people prefer to do it externally because it ensures that the result is the same regardless of the source.

Generally, your computer will have a DAC chip that is definitely good enough, but many motherboards will fuck up on the surrounding electronics, and you might hear noise as you, say, move a window around in the screen. A decent external DAC is a portable way to solve this. An internal sound card will solve this too. A bad (classic chink) USB DAC will actually make things worse, as USB power is low quality and chink seldom cheapen on filtering it to an usable state. A good one will do its job and that's it, you'll typically forget it's there.


The AMP: Provides power as necessary, a little gain (a few more dB top volume, unnecessary unless music mastered at crazy low volume, or you're deaf), and a convenient knob to decrease the gain. Typically, your headphones receive audio as an analog signal (AC). Voltage represents the amplitude of the wave. Your cans will output more or less volume at a given voltage (so called "sensitivity") and pull more or less current (amperes) to actually move the driver (active component that makes the sound). Some headphones are more efficient than others, unrelated to sound quality.

Generally, your source can provide more than enough volume, so the added volume (the "gain") will likely be superfluous. A knob is nice. You'll need an amp only if your cans pull more current than the source's builtin amp provide, which results on distortion (muffling).

* https://nwavguy.blogspot.ie/2011/09/more-power.html
* http://audiobot9000.com/

>>59108272
this seems a good rec, its a gentle v shape right? thanks a lot lad

>>59108222
Buy the x2's. The bulk of the budget should go into the headphones, then you can buy an amp and dac later down the line.

>>59108222
> fulla 2
Best <$100 amp+dac in the market, good pick.

> either 598's or the DT770 80 ohms
DT770 are fun bass canons but that's about it. Their HD598 competitor is the DT880, and it doesn't do well on reviews that compare the two. Just go with the HD598, at $150 I will claim it's the best value in the market. They're comfortable AF too.

> Just picking up X2's.

Don't fall for that meme -_-

>>59108197
Linus is a shill and quality brands such as Razer doesn't approve of that.

>>59108402
>Meme

Can you explain, anon?

>>59108369
>its a gentle v shape right
Yes. It also has a bit of a peak around 10k which gives it a sense of air and greater detail than its competitors (K701/2 HD600 etc). But I wouldn't really call it harsh. And it has more detailed bass and better extension in either direction.

The PRO version also sounds slightly different from the Premium, clamps a little bit harder, and has a coiled cable instead of straight.

What are some good earbuds for 200 or under?

>>59108222
If you're considering the X2, you might want to look into the as-neutral-as-it-gets HD600, as they're the king at that price segment, and really well loved (for many, the best headphones available period).

Just keep in mind you'll need an amp for these yes or yes.

>>59108453
xiaomi piston 3 are good throw-around iems.

>>59108402
The DT770s actually have great soundstage for being completely closed. The only other closed headphone I can think of with a good soundstage is perhaps the K550 and its derivatives.

>>59108453
>earbud
>200
dollars? am I seeing this? sounds to me like blowing $50 on a napkin...

>>59108426
>quality brands such as Razer
Something is wrong here.

>>59108494
I dunno. I just want to replace my beaten bulky ath-m50x which I mainly used to listen to music when walked to places?

>>59107659
Thanks man

>>59108369
>DT880

Go against HD598, but they're not as good.

DT990 go against HD600, not as good *by far*.

>>59108534
Get some $35 koss portapros or something, for that kind of use.

If you really want to spend ~$200 in audio, get something actually good to use at home like the HD598.

>>59108543
>DT990 go against HD600
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>59108492
But if they don't need to be closed, then by all means go open (!).

I use some (closed) HD380Pro at work, and they're not bad (for closed), but they're just shameful next to the HD598.

>>59108453
1more triple driver, shure 215, rha ma750, sennheiser momentum, mee audio pinnacle p1

>>59108582
>You have no idea what you're talking about.

Right. I meant similarly priced, but the DT990 are actually way cheaper.

>>59108543
>Go against HD598, but they're not as good.
by "they're" which are you referring to and in what way

>>59108543
He wanted something with better bass and detail. The DT880 provides that over the HD598.

>>59108621
The prices of these fluctuate all the time. The 880s and 990s have traditionally been around the price of the HD600s and K701/2 and competed with those headphones.

>>59108457
Aren't the X2 pretty v shaped?
I thought they competed with the 600's in price only.

>>59108658
Yeah, that's how I remember it.

>>59108639
Bass maybe (the HD598 are more neutral... which I think is best (fairness to source) but YMMV). Detail not so much (reviews I've seen that compare both do all agree HD598 has better imaging).

>>59108704
Yeah, they are. For the V-shape vulnerable riffraff, who don't know what they're missing just because they buy headphones that sound good in the shop.

>>59108746
The 880s have better detail and bass but the 598s have better soundstage due to the angled drivers. 598s also have better soundstage than the HD600/650.

>>59108704
They're more of a dark headphone than v shape, it mainly has a lot of emphasis in the midbass with a peak in the 9k range or so.

>>59108770
Not anon, but don't you buy headphones based on your preferred sound signature? Mind explaining?

>>59108805
Don't bother listening to that guy, he's shown up recently and does nothing but shitpost the 600 and Fulla in everyone's face regardless of what they're looking for.

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I found the SHP9500S on sale. Should I buy this?

I have some basic RHA CA-200 at the moment.

I've got the SHP9500 that I like, are the 598's much of an upgrade in sound?

>>59108862
Depends on what you like, anon. They are fairly bright headphones, but for the price, you can't beat them for under $100. Not to mention, it has some of the sweetest mid-range in their price bracket.

>>59108862

Do it if you want open headphones. For that price they're a steal.

If not get the Somic MM185 which is the oem headphone for the Status Audio CB-1.

>>59108904
>>59108988
Hmm I never experienced open headphones before. I'll probably give it a shot.

>>59108805
No, but I'll avoid anything that doesn't at least try to be neutral.

How are non-neutral headphones even compared? The reviewers' favorite colors? Silly.

>>59109061
Why do you always shill HD 600s even when a completely different sound signature is prefered? This has always been a burning question of mine; mind answering it?

>>59109061
>How are non-neutral headphones even compared?
>Implying sound signature is objective

Silly.

>>59109035
There's also the Status OB-1's

>>59109921