What did AMD mean by this?

Intels ass hole wasn't stretched big enough.

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> yes yes my dear 4chan friend, I haven't spent 24 hours posting shill threads about AMD like the loser I am.

>but muh muh muh single-threaded performance
>muh lack of optimization for multiple threads

eat dick retards
you're fuck there too
kys
kill yourself
kill yourselves

faggots
intel is DONE.

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>>59083784

>>59083774

Feel good to finally dust that one off?

Since you'll never be able to again?

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>>59083816
delete this shit

>>59083755
>>59083816
DELET THIS!!!!!!

im a big amd fan and im pretty keen to buy ryzen for my next build but i dont believe these results for a second

Now if only the same could be said about the 1700 I would be pre ordering it instead of the 7700k since it's cheaper than the 1700x

>>59083948
IPC is the same

>>59083948

The 1700 will be hard pressed to overclock passed 4Ghz I think. 65w TDP and all.

>>59083974
No, it's not.
And the 1700 won't clock anywhere close to the 1700x

>>59083982
exactly, the 1700 is a cpu that just doesn't make sense
it won't clock anywhere near their $50 extra X version so you will be stuck with mediocre clock speeds and gaming performance on par with the 7600k

if it's better than intel at single thread, I'll buy it, was thinking about a 7700k, but if I can get twice more cores and threads, and they're not shit

they say it has 8 cores and 16 threads but on pcpartpicker it says that it doesn't have hyperthreading. does AMD have a different name for their equivalent?

>>59083755
>AMD top end CPU beats Kaby Lake i3 in single threaded performace
feels bad man

>pre orders available
>no independent benchmarks still only leaks and amd show room
I'm still getting a very bad feeling from this

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I wonder what amd meant by this?
>4.5ghz
8 cores
>4.5ghz
8 cores
>4.5ghz
8 cores
>4.5ghz
8 cores
>4.5ghz
8 cores
>4.5ghz
8 cores
>4.5ghz
8 cores
>4.5ghz
8 cores

>>59083755

IM SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF YOU AMD FAGGOTS WITH YOUR CONSTANT BS.

I JUST BOUGHT A 7700K AND ITS A GREAT FUCKING BUY. EVEN THO I COULD HAVE USED 4 EXTRA CORES, I COULDNT FUCKING AFFORD IT. BUT ITS STILL THE BEST FUCKING CPU OUT THERE, AND YOU NIGGNOGGS CANT CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE.

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? SELL THE 7700K?


FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SHIT THREADS DAY IN AND DAY OUT

>>59084081

hey man quit being so insecure. i just bought a 6700k and i'm a big fan. I don't see why I'd need anything more powerful.

just enjoy your computer, bro.

I sure as fuck hope their $400 cpu beats intel $320 cpu

>>59084053
hyperthreading is a intel proprietary name, so yes

>>59084053
Yes, they're calling it SMT. It's the same thing pretty much.

>>59083755
>>59083816
bullshit. Even AMD themselves only claim single-core parity with Broadwell.
Skymeme is a bit faster per core.

>>59083755
>by Allah akbar
No thanks

>>59084053
Hyper-threadan is Intel's meme name for SMT.

>>59084115

are you a big fan? 200mm? i guess you would need to be big to cool that shitty cpu.

>>59084165

right now i'm running a hyper 212 EVO and it's sitting at 20*c. stress tests put it at around 78*c

>>59084081
sell it to me. i'll give you 200 bucks

>>59084081
>He bought a 7700K
Just kys your self already

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>>59084202

here are my benchmarks, i want to see what ryzen does on it's first few days out to compare to my stock numbers.

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>>59083755
Australian prices

>>59084079
overclocked ryzen vs stock intel speeds. barely caught up.

>but my cores
>but mah ipc

toppest fucking kek

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>>59083755
>>59083816
>>59084079

SHUT IT DOWN!!!!!!

>>59084236
>Trying to turn kys into rip in peace.

Just stop

>>59084236

kys yourself yourself!

>>59084141
>is a bit faster
>a bit

yea, but price vs performance tho

>>59084070
>>>/Twitch/

>>59084076
If Ryzen does not deliver /g/ will be a fucking shitstorm, this place will go down.

>>59084270
F

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>>59083816

>>59084599
Kappa

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>not a single Mini ITX board for Ryzen

ITS
NOT
FAIR

>>59083816
This is such an unfair comparison. They only had one Intel processor to carry out the benchmark, but 5 AMD chips! Of course all those chips helping each other will do better!

>>59083755
>Khalid Moammer

>>59084270

fuck that joint, wouldn't let me return incompatible ram in an undamaged packet. never again

>>59085101
are any australian retailers not absolute shit though? what are the realistic alternatives?

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>still posting pathetic MEMEBENCH

How fucking sad AMDshills can be?

Can't wait for the REAL Vidya tests that will put AMD garbage to the place it belongs - a TRASH CAN.

>>59084965
it's not possible not even AM3 had a it's. maybe a mini ATX though

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>>59083816
It's just one bench and I never heard about it.
It probably still stands that Skylake is better IPC than Zen.

But I don't care, they'll BTFO Intel in MT.

>>59084965
Biostar prepares two, other vendors probably too. But they'll be late for launch.

>>59083755
Intelcucks on literal suicide watch, holy shit

>>59085333
>moetrash poster

>>59083755
Oy vey! Oy gevalt! Delet this right now, goyim!

>>59085333
>Not realising that MEMEBENCH has been intel's preferred bench for years, going as far as getting sued for benefiting intel CPUs against the competition
>Not realising Intel is getting rekt in their own turf
>Shitposting on a vietnamese basket weaving forum instead of finishing middle school homework

Pls terminate yourself.

>>59084965
Stupid dumb itx scum

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>>59085431
>>59085494
>AMD shills on suicide watch

NICE DESU!

AMD garbage will only suit for BITCOIN mining as always, keep that pile of SHIT away from Vidya and REAL BENCHMARKS if you don't want to play with sub-40 fps on medium settings with 1080p.

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>>59085539
>moeshit

The middleschooler butt-blasting is real, holy shit.

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>>59085333
>>59085539

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>>59083755
JUST

>>59084284
well all you need is a decent cooler and the 1700X is basically two 7700K's on one die

this is pretty fucking brutal

Krapy lake is at, what, 165w now? Don't have much headroom left. Meanwhile amd can crank zen up to 125w if it gets worried and still have room to up it again if they need.
lol it's all over jewtel is finished

>>59085337
Are you retarded? X300 is a chipset specifically made for mini-ITX.

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>>59083774
We have a new one for you ;)

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>>59083755

>synthetic benchmark

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>>59086067

why did you delete your threed

>>59085429
Are you german?

You have a very german accent.

>>59086094
i fucking hate indians

I'm glad that there'll finally be competition again. Monopolies are fucking cancer

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>>59085000

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>>59085333
Satania prefers AMD, you kek!

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>>59086744
No she doesn't you dumb shill.

Satania might be naive but she's not stupid to fall for silly AYYMD meme.

>>59085123
Moving to America?

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>>59086840
Take it back!

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>>59086863
That's what YOU are going to say to AMD after realizing that it is was a meme CPU that is a pile of shit compared to INTEL as ALWAYS.

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>>59086925
Its already decided. Intel is btfo! Soon you will crawl to AMD when your 4 silly cores wont be enough.

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Why do I have a taste of shit in my mouth?

>>59085000
*tips fishing hat*

>>59083816
DELET

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>>59084081
>He didn't wait for Ryzen.

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>>59087051

>>59087051
It's bulldozer/Piledriver all-over again

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>>59086039
is X300 gonna have full features or am I gonna be cucked just because I wanted to build a PC in an aesthetic as fuck Ncase?

>>59088179

Wait and find out like the rest of us.

>>59087483
What a cunt!

>>59083816
Reported for rape.

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>>59087473
>mfw bought AMD stocks

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>>59083816
WEEE ARE THE CHAMPIONS MY FRIENDS

>>59083982
Can't you just overvolt it and disregard the rated tdp.
I doubt binning will make that much of a difference between the 1800x and 1700 if both put to their limits

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I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as x64, is in fact, amd64, or as I've recently taken to calling it, x86 plus AMD. amd64 is not an architecture unto itself, but rather another example of a fully functioning x86 system made useful by the AMD 64-bit extensions, instructions and vital architecture comprising a fully new architecture as defined by the IEEE.
Many computer users run a modified version of the amd64 system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of amd64 which is widely used today is often called x64, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the amd64 system, developed by the AMD Company.
There really is an amd64, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Intel™ is the CPU: the piece in the system that allocates the machine's power to the apps that you run. The CPU is an essential part of an operating computer, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete 64-bit AMD architecture. Intel is normally used in combination with the amd64 instruction set: the whole system is basically AMD with x86 added for retrocomputing, or amd64/Intel. All the so-called Intel CPUs are really CPUs from AMD!

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>>59083816
OY VEY!! STOP IT GOYIM!

>>59083982
Do you know what TDP means you twonk? Thermal design power - its intended to output 65w of heat, not consume 65w max. You will be able to clock a 1700 to the stock speed of the 1800x guaranteed.

So disappointed the 1600x isn't being released yet. I'm ready to buy a new computer now.

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>>59083755
Time for AMD to be called pedos by MSM.

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>>59085701
>well all you need is a decent cooler and the 1700X is basically two 7700K's on one die

oh my amd kiddie i didn't want to rape you with bad news but i have to since you are so naive

>We just tested a 1700, it hit 4.0GHz stable in everything, but ONLY in the Crosshair mainboard, the lower-end boards it was hovering around 3.80GHz as the VRM’s were cooking with extra voltage. It however was maxing around 4050MHz, so I’d say 1700 can do 3.9-4.1GHz, of course the 1800X will probably do 4.1-4.3 as no doubt better binned, but if your clocking the motherboard has a big impact on the overclock and so far Asus Crosshair and Asrock Taichi seem the best two.

https://www.amazon.com/ROG-Crosshair-VI-Hero-Motherboard/dp/B06W2L6GBX

>$255 mobo just to oc 200mhz more
>4.5ghz is out of reach
>max would be 4.2-4.3ghz on 1800x which nobody will buy since it would cost $750 with mobo and ram

AMD ON SUICIDE WATCH LIKE NEVER BEFORE

>>59091378
with the amount you have for your new build you could save on top a buck a day until they release it. you probably will have enough to buy the 1800x though

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>>59091822

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>>59084081
>7700K
>Couldn't afford anything else

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>>59091864
amd fags always cucked by pajeets

>>59091822
>1800X 4.2GHz with mobo and RAM for only $750
>6950X costs $1600 alone

Intel on suicide watch. I don't even need caps.

>>59092291
Holy fuck, computer components are so expensive now. My last build was around 2012/13 and I picked up 16GB DDR3, a 3770k, and a Z77 motherboard for under $300 total at Microcenter.

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>>59092291
>reading comprehension

It would cost $750 to buy 1700x with $255 mobo which lets you oc more + ram, 1800x would cost even more

>>59084965
That's the reason why i have to get intel. I actually lug my pc around home and workplace. Just the cpu alone without the screen, but i do have a compact projector packed along all the time.
If AMD made some decent AM3+ ITX boards i could have gotten an ITX for my fx6300.

Fuck laptops tho.

>>59088361
He's right though. /g/ manbabbies.

>>59090417
Yeah yeah as long intel is still using x64 we won't see intel go totally bankrupt, even if they do they'll get bought over by some rich chinese vampire or or some rich oil nigger or some rich korean kimchi at the end of the day.

>>59092553
Amd , shitty brain of mine stuff with all the intel shilling.

As long intel is using x64 amd wont die.

>>59088499
kaby lake not boosted... top fucking kek it averages 140 on userbench single core. fuck off pajeet.

>>59085417
I want AMD to succeed.
But this is a shit graph... This is akin to the apple graphs..
There is no information. WOW This thing is better than this other thing!!!11!!!

Where is the clock speed? Where is the amount of cores? How am i supposed to know what any of these things mean? It just says +69(XD)%

>>59083816
DE

LETE

!!!!!!!

>>59084081
so wait

you can afford to buy a 7700k BUT you cant afford 20 dollars more to buy a 1700x with 4c more less tdp and the same perf?

>>59092608

Um, it says all you need to know in the slide. 69% faster in cinebench multithreaded benchmark.

Not all 7700K's are equal.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10968/the-intel-core-i7-7700k-91w-review-the-new-stock-performance-champion/11

>Fails at 5Ghz.
>Still needs a good voltage bump.

Ryzen will overclock to around 4Ghz with less voltage and still beat out the 7700K @ 5Ghz mark my words.

>>59092931
>Ryzen will overclock to around 4Ghz with less voltage and still beat out the 7700K @ 5Ghz mark my words.
Yeah, in Cinebench and 7zip compression maybe. Too bad normal people care about things like playing video games and watching movies.

>>59092570
At 3 times the price house insurance in the event of a fire not included LOL.

>>59092480
And it would still be half the price of 1 (one) Incel die.

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>>59084834
I love watching this every time.

I wonder if Intel has a trick up its sleeve. Don't they blow AMD out of the water with their r&d budget?

>>59086523
Is this the good times like 2002 era when they beat Intel to the gigahertz barrier? I really want to see Intel get a black eye. I also hate monopolies. And I love the underdog story. I'm rooting for ya AMD

>>59092939
wow i guess all the 4.5ghz are so fucking usefull when you watch movies

>>59092931

Which Ryzen?
1700X with a good mother board I bet it hits 4.5Ghz on all 8 cores easily.

1800X will hit 4.8 -5.0 on a loop.

1700 has already hit 4.0 on a good board.

>>59093015
they spend 4 billion down the mobile drain for no reason what so ever

its not like they didnt knew about ryzen but they seriously underestimate it thats why they wont have anything to fight it for at least 1.5 years

>>59093134
>youtube playing in background while playing some game
>FPS is great because Intel is significantly better and clocked higher
w-w-w-w-well at least I can unzip things 2 seconds faster than you! - amdtard

>>59093155
yeap meanwhile on the real world
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02/cpu-skalierung-kerne-spiele-test/

WHY IS THE COMPANY CALLED "INTEL"

BECAUSE THE JEWS ARE IN TEL AVIV

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>59093149
I figured they knew about amd because it's no secret you need to keep up development. Is it a case of resting on their laurels and getting cocky that amd would only have incremental improvements? Did amd engineers pull an upset come-from-behind victory?

>>59093197
how is this link at all relevant?

>>59093226
if you care about games as you say and you dont find this relevant that a 4c needs to be clocked at almost his maximum to fight off typical turbo boosted 8 cores then you clearly have no idea about technology what so ever

>>59084053
AMD actually uses a much more advanced version of SMT than Intel, which is why, despite being around 15% slower per core, Ryzen has better multi-core performance.

>>59084270
>pckikegear
Just order straight from Amazon. It's way cheaper and they're a lot more responsive if you have a problem.

>>59093226
It's showing gamez need coarz

It's not 2009 anymore

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>>59093278
No it's not. There's a nearly negligible difference between the 7700k and the top MOAR COREZ chip. The only thing this shows is that the AMD offerings are total garbage. Can you even read or do a little bit of critical thinking? I mean really...

Where does /g/ go to read up on the latest tech? I need to catch up big time.

I am sure that Intel will release 6 and 8 core Coffee Lake mainstream desktop CPU's to compete with Ryzen. They probably have them ready to go already.

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>>59093130
>>59093220
Bumping for answers pls

>>59093295
tomshardware
anandtech
arstechnica

>>59093291
dont try to justify stupidity here..

7700k is already a highly clocked with litter room to play with

none of the rest of the 6/8/10 cores are clocked near their maximum.. imagine if the test was under OC for ALL OF THEM

I am just getting back into building, is Tom's hardware still good? Or was it never good and my memory is bad.

What will happen next year when AMD moves to Samsung/GloFo 10nm process?

>>59093155
>>youtube playing in background while playing some game

A CPU with good multithreading will be better at this if the OS isn't temple os...

>>59093323
Thanks anon. That answers my other question too.

>>59093338
>338What will happen next year when AMD move
Samsung's "10nm" process has some 10nm features, but is mainly larger processes. Intel's is all 10nm, which is why they are having so many problems with it. Coffee Lake is STILL going to be 14nm!

>>59093319
I guess intel is doing some heavy r&d while doing nothing on current cpus, i expect some revolutionary boom in next 5 years from them. They had almost 10 years of total dominance and it's clear they only improved their cpus to show little progress while in reality all cpus are on 2500k lvl of performance

>>59093345
what he meant to say is

i have a chrome open with 20 tabs 5 of them are running a 4k video on loop 5 of them are running 1080p on loop and 10 of them are playing gay american music

while im playing on on my 30 monitor eyefinity setup at 1680x1050 as my daily exp on my pc

>>59093324
>you need MOAR COREZ as proven by this test!
>the bulldozer "8 core" chip is literally one of the worst
>the 20-thread chip is only marginally better than the quad core intel
>HURR UR STUPID IT'S BECAUSE MUH CLOCK SPEED
yeah no fucking shit, it's almost like that's my entire point and what I've been saying the entire time
HMM what a coincidence

I thought germans were intelligent... now I understand why you cucks elected Merkel and keep importing terrorists

>>59093391
>>the 20-thread chip is only marginally better than the quad core intel

a quad core clocked to 4.5ghz with 300-400mhz left to play out
vs
a 3.8ghz with 1.2 ghz to play out gee i wonder who is gonna win when shit hits the floor

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reminder intel is literally shaking in their boots with fake news. this is from their shilling network.

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>>59093374
I wonder were the future will take us. Aren't we running into a size wall? 10nm is crazy small.
>>59093391

>>59093391
The game can't scale past 8 threads tho

It needs some i3s and i5s to make it more balanced

>>59093345
>A CPU with good multithreading will be better at this if the OS isn't temple os...
stop speaking in generalities, if the IPC is low enough the higher clocked quad core will be superior, simple as that
>muh 7zip

>>59084079
Intel beats in single threads only because they have boost which will work only on one core, as soon as 2 or more cores are used, intel will start sweating.

>>59093434
>The game can't scale past 8 threads tho
wow interesting how the story has changed huh?
>>59093278
>It's showing gamez need coarz

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>>59093416
Wew lad, talk about putting the spin on something. I guess they did get caught off guard because they didn't address chip performance head on. The fact that this exists shows their performance expectations from amd were way off. Fantastic.

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okay someone explain this to me.
so ryzen only has 24 PCIE 3 lanes?
doesn't the shittiest intel still have 28 lanes or something?
what would something like dual-gpu + m.2 SSD take?

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SOON™

you guys and thinking it's bulldozer all over again

just remember one thing

jim keller

>>59084134

SMT is the industry standard name.

HyperThreading is the Blue Man Group marketing name.

>>59093155
Hey, this is the exact issue my friends have with their i5's against my fx8350, I have no issue with youtube and playing a game at max settings, while chatting on skype, my friends on the other hand have to shut off youtube to maintain playable framerates and the skype call.

Dumb question but what is the point of 25mhz increases?

>>59093508
>Hey, this is the exact issue my friends have with their i5's against my fx8350, I have no issue with youtube and playing a game at max settings, while chatting on skype, my friends on the other hand have to shut off youtube to maintain playable framerates and the skype call.
What a joke, the 8350 is a terrible chip and there's no way in hell playing a youtube video affects them whatsoever. Chances are you have completely different GPUs or something else. Honestly the 8350 is bottom of the barrel, beaten by even the i3 in most cases.

>>59093518
They have Rx480's and I'm running an r9 390, its because they don't have the threads to spare on running the youtube video while skyping and running a game that can use all 4 cores of the CPU.

>>59093518
he just said his fx8350 has no issues and their intel ones do

>>59093518
>the 8350 is a terrible chip
Honest question, why? Learning what I can.

>>59093338
Dont you mean 7nm? They are to most likely skip 10nm alltogether

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-gpu-navi-gpu-hbm2-2017-2018/

>>59093567
I'm >>59093508

But the 8350 at this point has horrible single threaded performance, which is why in games a high clocked i3 beats it, but everybody seems to think it still loses in multi-tasking, which is the thing it excels at.

>>59093570
what happens when we hit 0nm?

>>59093518
>beaten by even the i3 in most cases.
Only in singlethreaded performance. Overall an 8350 is a better CPU than any i3.

t. i5 owner

>>59093586
>But the 8350 at this point has horrible single threaded performance
Any only two cores. But guess what. Duo core is quickly homecoming obsolete.

>>59093586
Thanks, this is what I thought.

I wonder why clock speeds aren't higher by much anymore. I thought by now we'd see 7ghz. I know fuck all about architecture, trying to learn.

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>>59084270
So much for the budget option.

Sticking with my ivy bridge for another year.

>>59093618
by making things smaller and lower latency and more efficient, we lose the ability to clock it "higher" than previous things.. you get X amount of transistors more and lose out on your ability to clock it higher
let's say you go from 1 billion transistors at 4ghz to 2billion transistors at 3.5ghz you're still going to see way better performance even if lower clocks
then the next cycle of chips will push those 2 billion up to the 4ghz once again
and then repeat.. more transistors lower clock etc

very basic explanation of what happens over many years

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>>59093416
>How can Intel compete with that?
every time

>>59091822
>1700
So the CPU with a base clock of 3ghz OCs to 4ghz?

>>59092440
My last build was a Core 2 Duo. I'm searching "AMD", sorting most-to-least expensive, and picking the first item on the list for everything.

>>59084270

Fuck, even Turkish prices are lower than that. We have 1800x at 630-600 dollars.

On the same note, is Germany the cheapest hardware supplier in EU area anons? I and my fiance are going on a Europe trip Collonge, Luxemburg, Brussells and Amsterdam in 13th of March. Which of these cities should I do my new pc shopping?

>>59093731
that's not very surprising.
Most CPUs overclock to 1Ghz above their base clock.
Only recent Intel chips have trouble with that because their stock clocks are already so damn high.

>>59093271
>paying jews for shipping

Just buy it from MSY like everyone else you fucking mong.

>>59093742
just go to Germany and live there, so many turks there they wont notice ur illegal

>>59085333
> REAL Vidya tests
> t. Stupid Satania

>>59093765

>just go to Germany and live there, so many turks there they wont notice ur illegal

Anon, I was born to a rich family and I am quite rich myself as an architecture degree that owns a construction company to live my days in luxury without working a day for the rest of my life. If the stuation in Turkey reach to a degree that I just couldn't live there anymore I would rather just buy government bonds from Canada or Australia and live there, getting treated like any other plat collor immigrant rather than going to Germany and getting treated like a second class citizen because Turks are ''de-facto'' low class people both culturely, ethnically and financially.

Although, replying to a one sentence banter in /g/ with such a long post probably tells more about my thoughts on my own home country and the stuation we live in more than I would like to but anyway...

Fucking comcast outage as I was typing, tethering from my phone is a bitch.

I'm probably gonna wait a bit and see how the overclocks from the 1700x and 1800x differs.

My 8350 isn't horrible right now, and if the overclocking it only a difference of like 100-200mhz than the 1700x is where I'll probably go, and my noctua d14 will probably serve me well going to something like that.

>>59093803
thanks for your response though, interesting to know what you know about your people in western europe

also, in Germany you can get computer chips cheaper than the surrounding areas since they ship in volume there (80 million people after all), you will need to order it online though,store bought is bound to be more expensive,at least thats how it is in NL

best thing to do, make sure your German webstore has pickup service,then order your cpu/mobo and go to their warehouse to pick it up, another option is to send it to the nearest post office(in NL we have PostNL pickup service, just sends it to the nearest postoffice for you to pick it up,Germoney ought to have the same)

>>59093803
>plat collor immigrant
WHat?

>>59093742
I'd assume those are outback roo dollars so they ain't that expensive.
Not sure why aussies assume their stuff is soo expansive when it's just their dollar being asswiping paper. same for fucking leaves.

>>59093312
More cores for mainstream is great.

Is it finally over? Is Intel finished?

>>59093455
Hafia boys got lazy.

Intel is suffering from their stupidity at the end of the netburst era, they laid off all the Texas and Arizona CPU R&D not long after they shitcanned Tejas/Jayhawk - they kept them on to make Cedar Mill (not the original Cedarmill which would have followed Tejas) and Smithfield (Presler wasn't them) but after that they were toast.

The Hafia boys did Banias/Dothan during the netburst era and they won big with the cancellation of Tejas, they became the heads of cpu R&D and Yonah/Merom/Conroe we're their first orders but they were just Dothan + netburst extras, Nehalem was their first real r&d project.

Since there is no longer any internal competition or was their external threat(competition), they just kept slightly bumping things - they do have big things in the works, but they're still a good 8 years out. Intel has become Microsoft in the 2000/XP days - they wanted to release a new OS every 2 years, but kept piling on new features and not finishing othes - so much so that that Blackcomb eventually ended up as Vista, was 5 years late and was fucking garbage.

Intel corporate needs to get some new X86 cpu r&d teams going and get the internal competition happening again.

Is AMD actually good now though? Because every time I buy an AMD card it shits itself and temps are way too high

>>59094091
The CPU part seems to be good. Still pre-ordering AMD is like trying to play Russian roulette. Give it a month or two to fix 20 different bugs and issues that will probably pop up. Still 90% of people here who are hyping this shit up won't even buy it, they're just worst type of degenerate shitposters that false flag 24/7 to have a giggle.

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>>59094104
normally I'd agree.. but this is jim keller we're talking about

>>59094136
Good job, you're part of 10%.

>>59094158
jim

>>59094136
>falling for the 'X' meme after its been proven the 1700 non X can achieve and even beat the 1800x clocks

>>59093466
amd has 2 full lanes for sli/cf BUT the am4 socket has more pins than 1151 suggesting that we most certenly see a plx chip with more lanes but not from amd (they can carry out 36 gen 3 in total plus 16 gen 2 )

>>59093416
hahahaha this is fucking hilarious

>>59093803
> rich
> looking for place with cheapest parts

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>>59093466
t. intel sponsored korean gamer

>>59083774
>>59086053
this shilling has to stop, its annoying as hell

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You wanna know what else is ryzen?

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>>59093355
DELET THIS

>Believing "leaked" benchmarks.
Didnt you autistic retards not learn from previous lies?

>>59093992

Thanks for the detailed reply anon, it looks like a bit too much work. Although, it could change occording to how the two day stay in Colonge goes. If I get bored from the visiting tourist attractions I can busy myself with the pc parts.

>interesting to know what you know about your people in western europe

I have been to every European country other than Scandavia minus Denmark, Germany and U.K. I know what people think of Turks anon, I don't need to be an einstein to know/guess that Turks are seen at best Balkan and at worst Middle East tier people who are bound to be always seen as second class citizens. Being a culturally, educationally, politcally inferior society effects peoples view on nations, no matter what bleeding heart lefties will preach to themselves and to others.

Hell, I am an architect that owns a construction company since the day I finished my school. I had leftie university students from Western Europe who are studying DESIGN, not even architecture persume me to be ''less knowledable'' about my own field than them. Although avarage Turkish graduate is probably less knowlegable than their European counterparts unless they are in top 15-25 percentile in their field, I can't argue against that much.

Anyway, I can go on about Turkey for eternity. Sorry for ranting on you. Take care and thanks for the advice anon.

>>59094366

You have to enjoy having small victories like saving few bucks from your purchases, having hobbies like building chainmail armour, fishing, hunting etc in a country like Turkey. Because there aren't going to be big happy news about country suddenly turning back a decade or two and returning to normal rather than having terrorist loving Islamic cunts as a government.

>>59093355
By the time Intel gets 10nm going GloFo and TSMC are going to be on 7nm

>>59084965
It's okay, they might actually be out in six months, then sold out. Fuck I'll just buy Intel.

>>59094528

I am a Intel/Nvidia hating, AMD loving faggot since I knew what pc parts and brands meant. I have always had a soft spot for AMD and even made my gaming rig from fx chipset just because all my childhood had been playing on AMD chips since late 90s even though I had to go with 4930 for my workstation.That's how much of a AMD fangay I am and already planning on a full AMD build for myself when VEGA comes out...

BUT!

There is literally no way that Intel with decades of chip building experience would lag behind GloFlo in technological department. These companies need atleast a decade of experience in the field for financial, human resources and production experience reasons to actually be ON PAR with Intel. I have no doubt that they can catch up to intel in ever 1-2 years but they won't be suprassing Intel anytime soon.

>>59094391
What?
/g/ has been about shilling for what... 5+ years?

ALWAYS about how you should buy this, that. This phone, that AMD CPU, this AMD Radeon card is now the shit, etc etc.

ALL. THE. TIME.
/g/ is like a very cheap, poorly done advertisement site for poor companies.

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>>59094572
>Intel/Nvidia hating
you'll love this then

>>59094580
Nice mim

>>59094580
>literally every third post itt is a pajeet shilling intel
>"you guys are all amd shills"
wew

>>59094262
Oh come on, it isn't even out yet. Still a terrible decision whatever the case.

>>59094588
Gonna hit rock bottom when the Nitendo Switch flops.

Question is, will they ever recover?

>>59084081
>7700K
buying a 4 core for >350€ is probably the most retarded thing to do in 2017.

Especially if you can get an 6/8 core for almost the same price which are even faster and better to overclock.

>>59083755
AMDs boards suck fucking ass, don't know what they were thinking.

their "best" board is worse than intels worst x99 board, fucking ridiculous

>>59094704
>Nitendo Switch
buggest fucking meme shit ever

the wii gave them a big head, you'd think the wii u with its absurdly expensive meme controller that nobody bought would have taught them, but nope

nintendo, nvidia, and intel all in the same sinking ship together

meanwhile both ms and sony go with amd, top fucking kek and the intel shills say it's all over

>>59094828
None of these companies are going down. Don't get your hopes up fanboy.

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>>59094882

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>>59093598
I dont know, but before that will also come 5 and 3nm

>>59083755

>My shitty south east asian country online store just open a Ryzen preoder
>With not Tax and VAT and shipping price from other country

Wait what? how?
RX day one sale was not even like this, they most likely at least add another $60 from the original price?

>>59095731
You don't need to preorder, there will be plenty of Ryzen chips after launch, initial shipments are 1 million units.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20170222PD211.html

>>59095768

No, i meant about the pricing.
The RX 480 was like $100 more expensive here at launch, and it only down like $20 ever since then.

I'm saying this because no one in my country knows the actual price yet, but selling with original US price is kinda insane even if they partnered with AMD.

>>59095796
>No, i meant about the pricing.
Yes, that's what I was also referring to. Prices of RX 480 was high at launch because 14nm production was new and AMD issued not many units at launch, so initial asking price went up because of high demand. With high Ryzen supply at launch they can meet demand and keep the prices at recommended.

>>59095822

Still, I'm wondering if the price will rise up when the pre-order end.
This is the first time I saw a PC hardware sold at the same dollar just like in the US, not in the last 15 years I ever seen something like this.
I've been mass messaging every online stores and store owner I knew to ask about the actual price when its ready, and most of them either doesn't know or doesn't want to give any information.

The down side is even if I pre-order there is not a single store selling the motherboard yet in my country.

>>59093414
>With 1.2GHz to play out
Even more, people have already taken Ryzen through the Cinebench wringer at 5.4GHz.

>>59096002
Who? What people?

Will there be low-end versions? 8 or 16 threads is great, until I realize I'd be better off with a 60W quad-thread than a 150W 16 thread

>muh scaling
Most games still don't scale well, and I can use a much quieter heatsink and use a <$150 chip in other builds versus a $500 chip

>>59096262
>Will there be low-end versions?
Of course but the big stuff comes first and gets hyped up etc. It's chip release 101

>>59087483
Who?