FUG :DDDDD

>320 gbp
Oy vey. It should be 280.

>>59065924
>AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz Base 4GHz Boost £488.99
>AMD Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz Base 3.8GHz Boost £389.99
>AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.0 GHz Base 3.7GHz Boost £319.99
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/processors/amd/amd-socket-am4?stockids=CP-39V-AM%2CCP-39W-AM%2CCP-39X-AM
Oh boy, Brexit happened

>>59066207
So 320 in local currency? Stop crying.

>>59066207
Leave remain shill faggot.

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>>59066639
To put it in context:
>i7 7700
£295
>Ryzen 1700
£320
>i7 7700k
£325

Has there been anything about how the 1700 compares to the 1800x? I'm assuming that the difference between 'x' and non 'x' is this intelligent overclocking thing.

Praying for single core performance. Any reliable non-synthetic benchmarks yet?

>>59068450
>I'm assuming that the difference between 'x' and non 'x' is this intelligent overclocking thing.
actually not. they both support XFR.

the X is apparently just means it's more powerful.

>>59068494
Oh! Where did you read this? Not doubting, just want to see for myself.

When you mean it is 'more powerful', is this something aside from clock speeds - something locked in lower spec chips?

>>59068545
From what I've heard/read so far the X versions seem to have a 95W TDP whereas the regular 1700 has a 65W TDP.

> 3Ghz
> 99 cores
Enjoy your useless CPU other than for encoding, *AGAIN*.

>>59068627
Ooooh, I knew that the 1800X has 95w TDP but this is also the same as the 1700X? Am I right in effectively thinking that the higher TDP is only beneficial for overclocking/auto-boost?

Sold my 4690k system after throwing it in an old case with an unused GTX 970 for $900 yesterday after a guy from work got his tax returns.

The wait begins.

>>59068664
Probably. Some binning may also be involved.

>>59068664
I believe the only difference is in binning.
1700 being the lowest binned 8 core/16t
1700x being able to clock a little higher at base
1800x being able to clock higher again'

>>59068643
But encoding is all I do

expensive

wonder how much the 6 core version will be

>>59068664
yeah, 1700x and 1800x are both self-overclocking with 95W TDPs, the latter obviously being just better binnings.

the standard Wraith coolers have supposedly ~140W limits, so both chips should clock better than their 3.4/3.6 GHz nominal ratings.

>>59068450
>still cheaper than the i7-5960X it competes with

>>59068685
So with this in mind, I'm curious - what would realistically be the difference between a 1700 and 1800x at the same clocks?

Or at least the 1700x and 1800x?

You may not be able to answer, but someone else may? I'm curious...

>>59068711
Yeah, and I'm not complaining about it either. Just putting the comparison out there... If the single-core performance is remotely respectable then I am jumping right on it. Will be great for virtualisation, I'm sure.

>ECC ON X370
MY DONG HAS BEEN KONG'D

>>59068797
Source?

My dong is ready

>>59068785
There shouldn't be a difference between the 1700 and 1800X when running at the same clock speeds.
The 1800X might be able to hit higher clocks though.

>>59068785
With them being, so far as we know, the same chip, just binned differently, then nothing. Maybe the 1800x will draw a little less power, run at lower voltages at those clocks, but otherwise the difference is in how high the chips can go.

>>59068839
>1800X for 560 eurobucks
Not bad, not bad at all.

>>59068823
The on-paper difference is negligible. How far are 1700X and 1800X expected to overclock?

I'd expect they both overlock some distance, and the 1800x has significantly more headroom given the price difference?

>>59068820
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.asus.com/gr/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/specifications/

http://www.shahrsakhtafzar.com/fa/images/95/11/khb/bbopbbyuoojjH/aaaa.PNG

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-prime-x370-pro-amd-x370-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-69f-as.html

Looking into it a little bit more myself still

>>59068878
We don't know yet. There's a screenshot floating around of an 1800X at 5.2GHz on a CPU-Z install that reports fucked voltages (it reads 1.8v or some shit) but that's about it.

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IT'S NOT FAIR

Where are the fucking itx boards

>>59068664
Mate can you stop posting like a loony Black Country chav? You're embarrassing me.

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>yfw you realize AMD can just go up to 125W if they feel threatened.

>>59065924
thats a fucking beast for that price.

>>59068880
My dong!

Any boards that supports more than 64GB ram?

>>59068917
>We don't know yet. There's a screenshot floating around of an 1800X at 5.2GHz on a CPU-Z install that reports fucked voltages (it reads 1.8v or some shit) but that's about it.

That's likely liquid nitrogen dick measuring

>>59068797
B350 supports it as well

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-prime-b350-plus-amd-b350-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-69g-as.html

>AMD Ryzen™ Processors 4 x DIMM, max. 64GB, DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz, ECC and non-ECC, un-buffered memory

So is 2666 confirmed as the official supported ram speed?

>>59068938
What's that in Euros?

>>59068862

Well that's 390 dollars

>>59069031
Look on top, there's prices there. You retard.

>>59069057
The 1800X is the $500 part, no?

Somewhat interested to see if there will be any mini-ITX server boards based on Zen. Something like the asrock rack e3c226d2i and c2550d4i boards.

Certain features like ECC memory support could enable that.

>>59069031

>in euros

how can one be so retarded ?

It's probably in swedish dinars

>>59068974
>Mate
>Not a chav
cлyшaeтe влин, чтo вы гoвopитe

>>59069074

Fuck I meant 380 dollars for the 1700 at 360 euros
560 euros -> 591 dollars

>>59069031
397€ for 1700, 605€ for 1800X

How does that compare to other EU countries?

>>59069106
Yeah, considering US prices are always without tax and EU prices always include like 20% VAT that's pretty good.

>>59068976
Jesus Christ, I hand't even thought about that. They have a huge margin, Intel is already at 135 on their top of the line, they're fucked.

>>59069116

10 to 20 euros more than in France currently

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>>59068839
ayyy

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>>59069000
AMD has whipped out the Expand Dong card this year. Oh hell.

>>59069142
Is this Canada?

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>>59069132
>>59069116

current prices in France

>cheap as fugg

>>59069142
Aussi bucks?

>>59069072
>>59069082
I want to know what the Scandi bucks converts to in Euros you morons

I don't know what brand of ice nigger he is though

>>59068450
>tfw the Intel chips will be even cheaper when Intel panic price drops everything

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Dutch prices are in

>>59069185
>>59069162
Yep Australia

wait, when are the 6 core ones out?

Anybody knows when they will release the 1600X?

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>>59069206
And Azerty has them for cheaper.

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Bongers are in

Anyone else hype as fuck for Hexa and Quad cores?

Consumerfag here. What can I do with 8 cores apart from DOTA 2 streaming and unzipping Skyrim mods faster?

>buying launch
nah
Im happy with my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GLVQM8

>>59069283

>7600K

>>59069282
Brag.

>>59068643
Compiling and emulation? Video editing? Altcoins mining? Virtual machines, large capacity NAS, large web servers, mass seedbox, Plex streaming? I could go all day with this.

Plan is simple, get 1700 non-X and overclock the shit out of it.

>>59069282
Not have your games lag to shit when you have Skype/Teamspeak and a bunch of browser tabs open.

Also >>59069299

>>59069283
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GLVQM8

WrongProc.jpg

>>59069282
I'll be using mine for VMs

>>59069307
Any kind of content creation

>>59069309
wouldn't the X one overclock better.

>>59069250
>tfw 6800k is 400 quid before price reduction

Don't know if I'm willing to pay over 400 for the 1800x

>>59069307
>plex streaming
lol what, you can stream all of a hard drives bandwidth with ancient cpu's unless you mean conversion streaming which is shit anyway.

>>59069298
>>59069320
7600k is literally the best CPU for gaming.
Debate me.
I fucking dare you.

>>59068839
but can they deal with hype and actually ship all that stuff?

>>59069359

>literally a 6600K renamed 7600K

Well, as a britbong, I'm happy with my 6700k. Wasn't planning on switching anyways, but was just taking a look at their offerings.

>>59069347
overclocking is for end of life of the chips. to be able to squeeze a few more years out of them. dont base your purchase on oc ability.

>>59069347
Presumably yes, if they are better bins. But would it worth to pay more for extra 2-300MHz?

>>59069357
Then grab a 1700, anything you do that'll make use of the 6800k will love the extra 2 cores/4 threads of the 1700.
Get a decent cooler, lock that fucker in at 3.6, and sit pretty.

>>59069371
these arent fucking nintendos man.

>>59069347
Maybe. We don't know yet.

>>59069357
Good thing the 1800X competes with the 6900K performance-wise and only costs slightly more than the 6800K. This is some insane value.

>>59069390
>>59069396
Yea 70 dollars for extra few MHz isn't worth it to me

>>59069201
Considering the dumbass move they're pulling with Optane memory - don't count on it.

Intel is restricting Optane to the newest chips (which no one is buying) while their partner in the whole Xpoint thing (Micron) is planning on selling drives compatible with pretty much anything.

>>59069379
yeah no
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K/3885vs3503

>>59069407
You'd think that.. but unfortunately past events have said otherwise.

>>59069124
165w on their enterprise line.

>>59069422
>MUH 8% GAINS
Really. 8% is a margin of error, not a performance gain.

>>59069422

>I CAN GET 2 MORE FPS IN GAME

manchild gayman

well I'm waiting for game benchmarks I want to build something with a gtx1060 or 1070

>>59068643
>damage controlling this hard

>>59069429
AMD has sold out of chips before?

>>59069422
>%3 arbitrary numbers more

gj

How is Intel going to respond to this?

>>59069498
By enabling hyperthreading on i5's and Bentiuns
So they've just gone and invalidated half of their product line with that move.

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>>59068643
congratulations, you are the fanboy of the year!

>>59069465
>>59069470
>>59069492
>8% gains
>1% price difference
do the math faggots

>>59069498
they will come out with a "new" line of cpus but $400 cheaper

>>59068643
>Not understanding base clock vs turbo
>Doesn't get that an overclockable processor is overclockable

>>59069526
how about 10% gains at 50% the price with ryzen?

do the math faggot

>>59069538
follow the post trail dummy

>>59069526
>Damage control

>>59069529
I'll buy one of those then. My 5930k is getting old.

>>59069283
>i5
Enjoy not being able to run DX12

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>Add Ryzen to cart
>along with expensive case, memory, and PSU
>buy
>look for mini ITX motherboard to go with
>none exist yet

>>59069221
Should be around the same rate as maplebux.

Rip. Literally no reason to get ryzen over a 6700k here. Thank fuck I didn't wait for zen.

>>59069512
>putting moar treads ;DDDDD on a mainstream 4 core chip is somehow gonna counter aggressively priced octacores

>>59069603
Welcome to the mind of Brian Krzanich

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>1700x
$552
>1700
$454
>1800x
$711

fucking brazil

>>59069588
>DX12
nice meme.
wont become a standard for at least 3 years but still... nice meme friend

>>59069609
jew mad

>>59069633
Just go steal one.

>>59069595
>Rip. Literally no reason to get ryzen over a 6700k here. Thank fuck I didn't wait for zen.
You DO realize that these are octocore parts, right? And if you want a quadcore with SMT, those will be significantly cheaper.

>preordering
ISHYGDDT

the real benchmarks are going to come out and they'll show amd tards the way to their cuckshed

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why buy launch?
have you learned nothing?

>all this hype and all this build up to ryzen
>its marginally better, for a bit cheaper, nothing crazy
>games are still shit
>all these cucks sidegrading and building new PC's because they think it will change their experience and because MUH AMD OLD SKEWL IS BACK !!

lol

>>59069480
>>59069371
Supply for Athlon 64 weren't great, which is a shitty thing for AMD. They could only deliver 100k chips per month
https://web.archive.org/web/20060521173658/http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030922080550.html

OEMs and enterprise demand smooth and amply supply else you won't be trusted for business.

Now global foundries can supply up to 60k wafers per month amounting a supply of 6 million chips.
https://youtu.be/zyYiDfws9tY?t=535

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Australia here. I'll probably buy this.

>>59069588
>Running Windows 10
An hero. Now.

>>59069674
In ausi bucks that inst bad for what you get

>preordering anything

I'll never be able to wrap my brain around this idiocy

>>59069671
So far as marketing goes "Ryzen sold out during preorder" is a great headline.

>>59069609
shekelstein assravaged confirmed

>>59069689
Yeah, I was pretty happy. But should I prepare order or wait?
I'm worried that the price will go up.

>>59069701

no he's just making fun of /r/amd lol

>>59069633
as a fellow hue, it seems standard to me, could be worse
prices should go down with some time

>>59069715
I am going to wait for the reviews. I am not an ausie but none of thebprogrammer i work with even knew about ryzen releasing so i wouldnt worry about them flying off the shevles and people price hiking.

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>>59069643

>>59069498
It's not that big of a deal.

Intel chips are still really strong and in many cases will be better than Ryzen. Don't be swayed by the hype-- of course people are getting excited by new products.

>>59069633
Time to buy the 8350 then

>>59069671
That didn't stop the RX480 from being perpetually sold out for a month.

>>59069746
True. I'd like to see a better comparison between the 1700x and the 1800x.
I feel like the 1800x will be overkill, but if the price/performance is there I might consider it.

I can't wait to ditch my 2500k

>>59069715
Pccg don't have motherboards yet anyway

>the only two white AM4 motherboards currently available are over $200
IT'S NOT FAIR

>>59069668
>its marginally better, for a bit cheaper, nothing crazy
Slightly better IPC, cores to match Intel top end, half the price. If you were planning an upgrade from a Sandy Bridge or older, Ryzen is an excellent option.

>>59069787
They do now.

>>59069801

no doubt, I just find it funny how people are acting like this is the second coming of christ

its like a bunch of 15 year olds shitting their pants now that they can finally afford to join the rest of the modern computing world

>>59069755
XD great reaction picture simply memetastic

>>59069696
For clickjacking journalists maybe. For enterprise no supply means lost business.

>>59069775
Polaris was the training wheels for 14nm, process has matured during last year. Su also made deals with Samsung just in case, they are not fucking around with Ryzen
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/232493-amd-has-built-hardware-at-samsung-could-tap-foundry-for-future-products

>>59069772
its not like the prices are absurd, some country are getting worse than us, the prices will lower once it gets distributed to more stores (only one have them currently)

>>59069794
>being a ricing windowkiddie

>>59069842
When it comes to desktop CPUs, there hasn't really been anything worth getting excited over since Sandy Bridge was released, until now. So it makes sense that people are overreacting.

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>>59069883
sorry, i just want a nice looking computer

>>59069903
>a hook
your currency is bait

>>59069903
what the fuck is this shit? how do you even have electricity?

>>59069842
half the price is a huge deal and if you are saying people shouldn't buy these because they are AMD you are justifying your purchase.

>>59069899
>>59069842

It's not so much the immediate impact of Ryzen upon the market, but the fact that AMD is now competitive, which means notable gains from both companies, and competitive pricing.

Getting excited over a product is naive, but getting excited about competition is most certainly the opposite.

>>59069904

>riced out
>side windows
>muh rgb
>nice looking

yeah you're definitely a teenager

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someone stop me

Im about to do it

>>59069633
It's not that bad, they could ask way higher than that just because "LEL NEW PRODUCT THE MONKEYS WILL BUY IT ANYWAY", as it happens almost everytime here.

>>59069925

no people should buy whatever they want, I just find all the hype and all the ridiculous hyperbole's to be amusing

but I've moved from gaming and desktops my opinion is in the minority

keep on keeping on tho

>>59069918
Yes, I was baited to born into this country.

>>59069923
What?

>>59069918
fucking kek

>>59069930
I never said anything about RGB Anon...

>>59069940
thanks for beta testing :^)

>>59069940
Get the Define C if you don't have something not in your pic related that makes you require the S

>>59069940
>buying a 1060 over an RX 480

Why not go full AMD?

>>59069946
you understand OP's post is satire I hope.

>>59065924

Shit tier consumerism. Wait at least 3 years before buying it and it'll be cheaper; I always wait at least 3 years.

>>59069981
it runs too hot

>>59069609
>Intelligent discussion happening
>Intel shills arrive

Filtered

>>59069981
1060 is slightly better.
480 runs really hot.

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>>59069940
do it

>>59069996
XFX one runs cool as all shits.

>>59070002

>calls me a shill because he can't stand to laugh at himself or the retards that he posts with every day

lolol

stay mad

>>59069979
k, changed it don't really know the difference but the c looks better anyways

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>PC parts cost almost twice as much in Europe and 3x as much in South America
Wow, you guys are getting fucked hard. I can build a complete top-of-the-line PC for about $700 with a little bit of patience and some deal hunting... you guys pay like $1500+ USD for the same thing. Why is that? Socialist bullshit?

>>59069996
>>59070008
>runs too hot
because it runs at a higher temperature doesnt mean it puts more heat into the case. Its a smaller chip so it puts out less overall heat.

>>59069903
1485 ne amına koyim ya. amk akpsi sikti ülkeyi.

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>>59070052
pls be bait

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I thought pins on chip made the boards significantly cheaper

>>59070069
doesnt into physics.

>>59070077

>He trusted the PGA jew

>>59070077
asrock taichi is 200 bucks.

>>59070077

>paying 399 for a motherboard

>paying for a top of the line motherboard in general

I don't feel sorry at all

only a retard would be okay with this

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>he still doesn't own AMD stock
what's your excuse, faggots?

>>59070077
almost the whole x370 line is under 250. spend more than that and you're a moron

>>59070110
>TFW I bought stocks @ $12
Feels good. Now should I cash out with Ryzen or ride it to Vega?

https://youtu.be/UpSHC1dqX1o
>Now playing at AMD HQ

>>59070131
Id' expect stocks to drop to below $14 until benches come out on release, from there, who knows.
Otherwise, I'd say wait until AMD release quarterly earnings, should rocket nicely.

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So now looks like a good time to buy AMD stocks or what? From the way most of you are excited, it looks like they're really onto something big.

>>59070170
Somebodys been paying attention. Even though I hate you you finally seen the light.

>>59070184

a good time to buy was a year ago

you missed the train

if you buy now you'll get a small increase

only people telling everyone to buy are the people that bought in a year ago and are already on top

sorry I >>59070184 didn't see >>59070131

I'm guessing it's looking good.

>>59070131
wait until 2017 Q4 financial results
should be best bet
servers in Q2 and APUs in sometimes H2 will be the big profit drivers. After those earning calls the stock will skyrocket.

>>59070205
Honestly dude, if I had enough money to make it worth my while, I'd have bought in at 1.8 last year. But only just starting work then.

>>59070077
What a ugly piece of hardware.

>>59070212
I see. You say small increase, but it's up over 9% today.

>>59070224
Why wait then? Shouldn't I buy them now, well before the big Q4 results?

>>59069981
Not him but Nvidia is still the way to go if you're playing games on Linux and don't mind proprietary drivers.

>>59070245

then go all in brah

>muh binning
do you guys even know what this means?
>w-well one is 65W and the other is 95W
holy shit /g/ doesn't understand TDP either

why is this board so clueless about literally everything

>>59070245
>Why wait then? Shouldn't I buy them now, well before the big Q4 results?
the post I was replying to said
>cash out
so cashing out after Q4 results
if you want to buy stock, then buy before march 2nd.

>>59070251
not for long.

>>59070170
>>59070224
Thanks for the tips. This is my first time buying stocks. I don't want to be one of those people who regret not buying.
I only put in $500 so even if they go bust it won't be that big of a deal to me.

>>59070260
>>59070262
cheers bruvs

>>59070184
Tbh if you're asking this question it's too late for you

Stocks already rose today and more and more people are catching on. They might rise more with Vega, or they might not

Stocks are endless fucking regret. I regret not selling my Vestas shares the day before the election and rebuying them the day after. But I didn't think about doing it, and even if I had I might not have dared believe in Trumpslide. And even if I had fucking sold them I might not have dared rebuy them

If you aren't intuitively ahead, stocks aren't for you. You're the guy asking after everyone else starts talking about how much money they made. You'll end up like the bitcoin trust fund guy from r*ddit

Can't wait for gaming benchmarks to come out and show everyone that this is just faildozer 2.0. The salt is going to be delicious.

>>59069996
I have the XFX gtr black edition and it runs cool as fuck and I don't even have airflow in my case

>>59070261
bining is how many defects the chip has determines which model it is right?

>>59070042
>socialist
Funny meme :DDDDDDD

>>59070236
no you wouldnt have you have been an amd hater for as long as I can remember.

>>59070042
South American here. That's exactly why. Brace for shitheads ready to talk to you about how socialism has never been tried though I guess. God I hate this shit.

>>59070236
>>59070224
>>59070184
>>59070170
>>59070131
Just a thought.
Intel is leasing AMD iGPU IP, the same deal that Intel held with nVidia netted them $1.5B over 5 years. That's $300M per year.

Deal looks to have been confirmed: http://seekingalpha.com/article/4042977-new-details-intels-ip-deal-collaboration-amd

So by maybe Q3 there should be money trading hands right? That could be $300M going right into AMD's coffers, I'd say wait for this to happen, then drop the shares when prices gain a little.
It will likely hit higher than you sold at, but there's not betting you could have hit there, so long as you sell at a profit there's no reason to complain.

WHERE CAN I BUY A 1700X WITH A COOLER?
ONLY COULD FIND JUST THE REGULAR 1700 WITH A COOLER

>>59068674
Over priced.
Old gpu and meg CPU.
You appled/intel'd him hard

>>59070274
I get what you're saying, but I only invest what I can afford to do without for a while. Anyone trying to make quick bucks is an idiot, but I'm willing to wait years if necessary.

In this case, it looks very likely stocks will rise by the end of the year, so why not buy even if i'm late to the party?

>>59069082
>>59069072
way dumber than the person you replied to -- how could you possibly misunderstand his question?

>>59070274
>Bitcoin trust fund
Please explain?

>>59070274
you cant daytrade once the big firms show up. they are master manipulators. just buy and hold on stocks like these or you will regret it big time.

>>59070298
>massive tax imposed on productive members of society to give free money to minorities and other stupids
>not socialism
pick one

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>>59068450
the average user will be better off with a 7700 or 7700K. don't get me wrong, i'm excited about zen, but you should know what you're buying. if you're a professional or a prosumer you should probably be looking at the top end ryzens so that you won't have to sacrifice too much single-thread and overall performance. if you're a gamer you might prefer a 7700K, 7740K or 6800K.

>>59069929
This

So, cheapest available Ryzen costs about same as 7700k while offering much worse single core performance and overclock potential. And the only reason to buy this is some heavily multithreaded tasks.
I think i've seen it somewhere... around 2011, when Bulldozer was released.

>>59070266
When AMD video cards overtake Nvidia's in Linux performance I'll jump the green ship without looking back. But that won't happen today and tomorrow isn't going to be some magical game changer either.

>>59070372
https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r88vl/need_advice_on_inheritance_arbitrage_family_etc/

>>59070463
>he doesnt know.

>>59070486
Go on

>>59070462
multicore is the way to go from now on. all the API's are in place. videogames are going to start taking advantage of them correctly from now on.

>>59069671
>Now global foundries can supply up to 60k wafers per month amounting a supply of 6 million chips.
>6 million chips
>6 million
Oy vey!

So what is the chipsets on AM4 motherboards?

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>tfw thought ryzen was going to be cheap
>tfw still costs more than my entire computer

>>59070462
this. unless you do video editing or compiling or something then you won't put all the cores to good use

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>>59070474
jesus christ

>>59070508
Yeah yeah same shit they've been saying in Bulldozer days. And still we barely got to fully utilizing 6 threads in games, let alone 16.

>>59070535
This is only their flagship, top end launch set, apparently they will be releasing more details on their more moderate chips soon.

>>59070554
thats a relief

>>59070508
how will this matter when single-core performance is worse?

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>>59070462
What makes you say that the single core performance is MUCH worse?

>>59070474
Holy fuck he lost a lot of money. Why did he trade in such high volumes when it's obvious he had never done it before?
And why did he dip into his sister's share?

My god, and he talks about it so casually.

>>59070568
because the ipc is lower than the 7700k's. 7700k can also reach 5ghz safely overclocked

unless im missing something

>>59070536
>what is dx12

Why no 4 GHz quad-core

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>>59070597
fuck sake


>this again

>>59070412
You are a legitimate shill, you're posting broadwell-E 3.6GHz boost 6 core numbers against Kabylake 4.6 GHz boost 4 core. The R7 1700 will have 8 cores, be in-between Haswell and Kabylake IPC and be 3.7GHz boost while still being less than the 7700k

>>59070636
They still ahven't released their full product lineup, the stuff showed today is only their top end 8 core chips.

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>>59070534

>>59070567
look up watch dogs 2

>>59068878

I've seen a few reports that they don't overclock well. Maybe a few hundred mhz at best.

>>59070553
if you havent been keeping up on the dx12 api then your going to just have to trust.

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>>59065924
INTEL ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>59070600
an epic meme

>muh aots

>>59070681
fugg guess Im going with 7700k

>>59070656
it's 5 GHz 7700K vs 4.3 GHz 6800K. the point is that more cores isn't always better if the clocks/ipc are worse. unless the r7 1700 can overclock a lot then it won't be the better choice for the average user.

there's a reason why amd showed blender and cinebench. from a gaming perspective those are completely synthetic and mostly irrelevant benchmarks.

>>59070648
?? am i missing something?

>>59070678
ye, it uses 8 cores. how does it matter when we're talking 3ghz vs 5ghz and lower ipc?

>>59070681
source?

>>59070797
what chips are you comparing so I can understand your question better.

>>59070737
Agreed. The R5 1600 will be the better choice.

>>59069694
I don't have such an issue with hardware because you can always return it.

>>59070832
Someone's ass. We won't know how well Ryzen OCs until they are released. Likely will be harder to OC an octacore than a quadcore though

>>59070797
>3ghz vs 5ghz
r7 1800x is 4 ghz. without overclock. 1700 is 3.7 and it can go 4 ghz too.
>lower ipc
3% per core, you get extra 4 cores and 8 threads.
>ye, it uses 8 cores
it uses every core it gets. not just 8.

>>59069420
Turbo Memory 2.0.
We've gone full circle

>>59070737
>average user
>using 1080p with GTX 1080
>caring about few percent difference over 100fps
No. Average user cares about paying less for more performance. Wait for $200 ryzen r3 4c/8t benchmark comparisons to i5 7600k for that

>>59070848
7700k with 1700x or 1800x

anons on another thread just said that they overclock 4.1ghz with the stock cooler, making the 120euro cooler i was planning to buy unnecessary hence giving me serious incentive for the 1800x

still, 4.1ghz octa lower ipc vs 5ghz quad higher ipc. wont the 7700k perform better? will it even matter though? will the 8core be more "futureproof"?

>intel high end cpus
>wow so fucking fast!! wish i could afford one at $1000

>ryzen beats it for half the price
>WHO NEEDS ALL THOSE CORES

>>59070236
Same. I was just starting a new job and had just moved so I had like $200 to spare is all. Then suddenly it was at 7, and then 12, and who know where it will end.

>>59070899
>wont the 7700k perform better?
no.
> will the 8core be more "futureproof"?
yes.

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>when price still not up in your country
Kurwa

>>59070867
>>59070889
yeah the 4/6 core ryzens might be more interesting for the average user. i was talking about r7 1700

>>59070885
>r7 1800x is 4 ghz. without overclock

Leak says 3.6 ghz

>it uses every core it gets. not just 8
meaning?

>>59070899
Who says Kaby Lake has higher IPC than Ryzen? Nearly every benchmark we've seen shows Ryzen with higher IPC (once you adjust for clock speeds).

Kaby Lake has higher clock speeds, that's it. Ryzen has better IPC, better multithreaded scaling, better SMT, lower power usage, much lower cost, cheaper motherboards, etc.

This does have all the new intel instructions sets right? Might be interesting for a hackintosh setup if I can get it working.

>>59070944
4.0 is boost clock.

>>59070952
clock speeds are all that matter

>16 logical cores in a desktop processor

all this time and I'm STILL laughing

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>>59070944
>Leak says 3.6 ghz

didn't you watch lisa su presentation today? why do you think this board go FUBAR? it is 4 ghz with turbo. with XFR it goes beyond that.

>meaning?

it scales over 8 cores, if you give 10 cores 20 threads, it will use every single one of them.

>>59069633

>1.399

Yoooooo solid early adopter price imo

>>59069590
>being an itx fag
go kill yourself. you can be cremated and stuffed into a small form factor urn, since that's what you like.

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I'm ready to order.

u jelly anon?

>>59071010
>pic
intel wins again

>AMD FX-9590 Vishera 8-Core 4.7 GHz Socket AM3+ 220W
>beaten by 3.4 GHz i7-6700

>>59071036
>Jelly over prebuilt

>>59070955
i-isn't boost clock overclock?

>>59071054
No, it's nominal boost clock, every Intel and every Ryzen CPU has one.

>>59069590
they're coming but with mini-ITX you have to accept the fact that it's more niche

>>59071036
why is it so expensive? doesn't even have an 1080

you could sli 1800 ti with that money anon wtf

>>59071038
>fps difference is 1%.
>price difference is 200 dollars.

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FUCKING BEAVERBUX ITS NOT FAIR

>>59071036
>110 pounds
wew lad.

>>59071036
>110 punds of pure shits and ass.

>>59069162
Close, Canada is about 30-40 bucks less.

>>59071092
>220W
>(LIQUID COOLING REQUIRED)
lel the savings upfront would be negated by the costs to run it and the air conditioning

>>59071036
if you're not trolling, please just order the parts and assemble your own pc or pay a friend to do it. you can have a much better pc for less money.

>>59071129
who cares anymore about fx now? ryzen will chew and spit kaby lake. can't wait for the benchmark.

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Meanwhile, in Canada

>>59071169
Yeah I'm realizing that now.

>>59071169
you can even have newegg put them together for you for a price if I recall.

>>59071027
yeah its not that bad when I think about it, I was just expecting it to come cheaper, its less than 10 dollars cheaper than the i7 7770k but still a good deal nonetheless

>>59071184
1500 WATT TDP
HOLY SHIT
FALSE MARKETING BY AMD, YET AGAIN

>AMD
>Current marketed TDP
>x15
>+75w

>>59071184
>Ryzen AiO PC
>Not a fire risk

>>59065924
>Intel BTFO
Good Night Sweet Prince

>>59070357
1700X comes with Wraith, its only a max of 5c hotter then a 212 evo.

>>59071424
only the multipack 1700x and 1800x include cooler

real bummer desu

>>59069307
>altcoin mining
>consumer computer system

Enjoy being nocoinz.

>>59071556
Burst brah

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>Net preorder is not available in Japan until 2rd March.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

How does 95W vs 65W affect over clocking ability?

HOL UP only high end ryzen are coming now?

>>59071549
>The Wraith Max has a thermal design power of 140W and the multi-pack costs $20 more.
Not bad IMHO

>>59071096
Still cheaper than kangadollrydoos

>>59071608
Yes, R5 and R3 are coming soon

>>59071581
It doesn't. TDP is only measured and relevant at stock settings. A 95W Phenom II X6 1055T could still be cranked up to 4GHz just like a 125W 1090T. The lower TDP is simply because it was clocked much lower out of the box, just as the 1700 is.

>>59071608
On March 2nd. The rest will follow.

>>59071261

Good thing is that it will only get cheaper

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>>59071579
sorry for you mr. takahashi

>>59069307
>large web servers
lel you're not fooling us. gaymen is what you'll be using this for

>>59071637
ye but the multipack isn't available in my country from what i've seen

>>59071581
the 65W version is probably gimped like the chip couldn't run at higher settings so they set it to 65W and sold it as a cheaper chip. it's the same chip design but they sort them based on how many defects they have

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>>59071579
you can pre order here but they'll ship only in march 22

>>59071184
KEK

>Not starting a "web dev company" and buying it for "developing" and invoicing the VAT.

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>prices on Brazil

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>>59071579
>preorder is only available the day before launch

>>59071731
Whatever helps you feel better, kiddo. Go play skyrim or something.

>>59071731
>gaymen

>>>/v/

>>59068881
Will there be an ITX board?

>>59073153
Yes.

>>59073153
yes