Ryzen - General

Its happening isnt it

>>59041810

I don't really care, if AMD is so awesome, intel will have to make a move, either way I think I will get nice computer after this, and I am happy about it, do not really care who wins, they are jews and pajeets both of them

>>59041810
I'm thinking about doing a custom loop for Ryzen, should I bother with the GPU part of the loop or wait until Vega for that? I currently have a 290X that works fine currently that will go in the system.

>>59041876
wait for vega

Get in here, shills.

>>59041810
>>59041845
>>59041869
>>59041876
>>59042217
>>59042233
Maybe, maybe not, either way it's gonna be interesting to see the real results, shits just around the corner

>>59041869
>supporting Jewtel

>>59041876
Vega pretty much can't disappoint. What the Fury should have been if only they were able to be on a smaller process.

The combination of 14nm and HBM is going to be insane.

It's also on their new next-gen architecture, like the 7970/7950 started with GCN.

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>I bought 6900K 2 months before for 1200€
>mfw X1800 will beat it for half the price

>>59042756
Your fault for being retarded. You could have just googled "when are new CPUs coming" https://www.google.com/search?q=when+are+new+cpus+coming&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

That's the first thing you should ever do when buying new hardware, as new stuff coming out drops prices and the new stuff could be better performance/$

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I like the Ryzen logo it reminds me of an orange poo I did when I was in preschool ater I ate some play-do

Is Vega going to come out at a reasonable price point? I was thinking of buying a 480 along with the Ryzen 1700X and motherboard, but if there's a Vega 580 or something at $250 then I can just stick with my 650ti for a while longer.

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>>59042756
>X1800 will beat it for half the price
Do people actually believe this?
Does anyone actaully expect AmirMD to make [[[[[[[[GOOD]]]]]]]] inexpensive chips after what happened with Bulldozer?
The only reason to be hyped for Ryzen is that we'll finally see the final nail in the coffin get slammed in for AMD.

>>59042921
Me too thanks.

>>59042973
>I want monopolies
Satan pls go.

>>59042973
do you remember the history of AMD other than Bulldozer? it's mostly them beating Intel's prices, with similar to superior performance.

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>>59043044
>I support shitty companies that have been producing utter shit for years for the sake of """"competition""""

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>>59041845
I think we're about here, get ready for it to happen in about a week

>>59041876
>going with a budget/price-performance CPU
>custom loop
This is like when people spend $1.5k on bling for their computer but then you see their battlestation and it's some poorfag Ikea setup in a lower-middle-class house
>priorities

>>59043142
doesn't look like budget when I look at the specs and leaked benches. of course I'll wait for reviews to buy shit anyway.

>>59042588
is it a new arch though? I don't think we are clear on if its not just a more refined gcn with new shit on it.

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>>59042973
You seem to be leaving Jim "Shit Wrecker" Keller out of the equation.

>>59042973
>underage: the post

>>59043142
Hey cunt, the median cost of a house where I live is $1M

Fuck off.

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>>59043172
>doesn't look like budget when I look at the specs and leaked benches
the Intel chips are faster, just more expensive. If you wait until the upcoming Intel product cycle, you're going to see far superior options at each price point. They're already lowering prices.

>>59043200
You're probably Canadian or something. Not sure why you were triggered by my post. Is your house the one on the block lowering everyone else's property values? heh.

>>59043206
Cheap trash

>>59041876
don't bother, water is a nightmare to work with unless you are doing something creative, like using a 50~ gallon bucket as a reservoir that you add ice to every now and then, or just pumping the water out of the room completely, to vent off elsewhere.

wait for benches, there is a good chance there is little reason to even go after market cooler much less water cool, granted I say this knowing full well i'm getting a D15 just because cleaning it will be easier by design then the stock cooler.

>>59043173
Vega is significantly different inside of the CU. Most every other area of the GCN arch has been incrementally updated, but in Vega the inside of the CU itself is change a bit. Quite radically at that. Vega processes two instructions per clock, all prior GCN did one.
This alone would be a tremendous increase in throughput, but the arch is also clocking north of 1500mhz, substantially higher than even Polaris.

Vega is as much of an ace up their sleeve as the Zen core.

>>59043217
I live in silicon valley.

I could sell my "middle class" house and go buy a mansion wherever you live.

inb4 you talk about salary, cuz I'll have you beat there too.

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>>59042973
>[[[[[[[[

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>>59043206
>>If you wait until the upcoming Intel product cycle, you're going to see far superior options at each price point.
>falling into the Meme Lake THREE FUCKING TIMES

Enjoy the 0.5% higher IPC for a new product premium I guess.

>>59043234
do we know the clocks of vega yet?
Never seen this bit of information.

though still not convinced it's not an iteration of gcn.

Likely going to get a vega when it comes out, probably a lower end one, but may get the high end, really depends on price.

>>59043262
The 7700k is already blowing Ryzen the fuck out as per my image, so I'm not really worried. This is just going to be Bulldozer all over again (to be fair, it will be much better than Bulldozer, but still not as good as Intel's offerings).

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>>59043228
twinsies

>>59043238
>inb4 you talk about salary, cuz I'll have you beat there too.
I'm not sure what's going on in this thread, but I just wanted to say wow, I'm impressed.

>>59043280
lol, not buying it now because Ill get the one with an am4 mount with it, I contacted noctua about how fast they could ship a mount and it seems like its around 2-6 weeks, that's not an acceptable time frame from the moment i buy the motherboard.

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>>59043104
>I support shitty companies that have been doing all sorts of unlawful anti-competitive activities on the rare event that they finally have 'competition'

>>59043288
Looks like some idiot was calling others nigger rich was being stupid and some other idiot took the bait.

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Honestly, Ryzen is surprising because we're use to 5 years of AMD not being there in terms of CPUs. I think it's downright silly to think that they could compete head to head with Intel on the performance front, their end goal was more than likely price to performance, and if these leaks are anything to go by (Might it be 5-10% off Skylake on a clock per clock basis) things will be very interesting. The concept of a 8c/16t processor that can compete with something like the 5960X/6900k at a mere $320 price point is crazy.

But then you look down the stack, something like the R3 1100 paired with a B350 board could give you both for the price of a locked i5 without a motherboard. Where Ryzen really shakes up the enthusiast market is at the top and the bottom. I feel like the 7600k will stay very popular, given the clock speeds they can hit and the price of the chip isn't all that much more expensive (Outside of possible Z270 boards.) But it feels like, once you begin trying to justify a 7700k over a 7600k you might as well go a R7 1700 and double up on the cores/thread for multitasking work while taking a minor hit to gaming performance.

I feel like the market will be in a very interesting place, while we won't see AMD beating out Intel in straight up benchmarks, we'll see them do very well in a couple of areas, many super cheap systems and well balanced workstations.

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>>59043279
>The 7700k is already blowing Ryzen the fuck out as per my image

>4c8t
>lower benchmarks
>$20 less
>blown the fuck out

That less than 10% higher IPC though. Irresistible.

>>59043206
>If you wait until the upcoming Intel product cycle, you're going to see far superior options at each price point.
I've waited almost 6 years. I also want more than 4 cores.

>>59043273
The big Vega is 64CU, and they stated its 12.5TFLOPs single precision.
FLOPS is just ALUs x clocks x ops per clocks.
Vega would have to be clocked to at leat 1526mhz to achieve 12.5TFLOPs.

>>59043303
I confirmed with them, this one has the am4 mount

>Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4

>>59043250
Is that wrong?

>>59043173
>>59043234
To add to this person, it's significantly different, yes.

Polaris was different from Fiji by a bit, but Vega will be more significantly different still, enough so that they're giving it a new name besides "GCN" from now on.

Big changes are:
Tiled rendering. This will help future proof so that 8GB of memory may still handle 8K resolution in future games and such as long as there would be enough thoroughput but not memory
On-GPU culling. Unlike the usual culling done in games, that's on the CPU and boxed, and will sometimes tell the GPU to render entire objects that aren't actually seen, this is a polygon-by-polygon occlusion process that will skip rendering individual polies that can't be seen.
A new shared pipeline for double precision floats all the way up to 512bit. Instead of having different processors for the different ops, it can simply do 2x as many 256bit ops as 512bit, 4x as many 128bit.

So it's very futureproofed and "next generation". It's basically like the 7970 was, which came out in 2011 but was still pretty much modern when it came to 2016, because that's how long it took for games to really start using what the 7970 GCN offered.

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>>59043310
>Looks like some idiot was calling others nigger rich was being stupid and some other idiot took the bait.

>>59043315
>lower benchmarks
you people are so sad

>major leaks
>nda still hasn't lifted

why don't they just say fuck it and tell the reviewers and sites with nda to just release the info already, all these fucking leaks every day and they still want people to hold on to nda?

>>59043327
ah, didn't notice that, honestly didn't think they had the am4 version out yet as that was only announced... what was it a week ago?

Just the fact that intel is rushing out skylake-x and kaby lake-x shows that this will be good.

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>>59043349
See you on the 28th fampai.

>>59043352
NDA's serve both the IP holder, and the media outlets. Small leaks usually drum up hype, and increase traffic to more reputable larger outlets. Those larger outlets know that the longer the hype builds the more traffic they'll get.

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>>59043356
>Intel is rushing out superior chips before Ryzen even launches
>this is somehow good for AMD

>>59043360
Ok, I'll be here. I'm excited for their Raven Ridge lineup desu.

>>59041810
I need the 8 core 16 thread chip in my life right now

>>59041810
APUs when?

>>59043356
Why didn't they do that to begin with instead of leaving people stuck with overpriced and underperforming bullshit for years?

>>59043329
>dual cpu mean sli/cf

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>>59043383
MOAR COARS
HOTTER TEMPS
PUT SOME SEMEN ON IT UNDERNEATH THE IHS

>>59043395
Their behavior is consistent with that of a company that has a monopolistic position in the market. business/econ 101


Actually, intels monopoly is also partially responsible for the shrinkage of the desktop PC market.

>>59043206

>2017
>buying nvidia
>buying intel

it's like you like getting bent over and fucked in the ass

>>59043352

NDAs also serve to make sure everyone spends fair time testing. Live and die by ad revenue also means needing to be there, at the first second to get as many views as possible. A late review gets no fanfare from 99% of potential readers.

If they lift the NDA in an hour from now, there are going to be review sites who weren't ready or done testing yet because the original NDA date said they had more time. Their response will be to rush the testing process to get the review up day one and potentially be wrong and give misleading info that could make Ryzen look worse than it it.

>>59043311
Most of the market does not overclock, and well never overclock, depending on how good extended frequency is, this could easily pit stock amd up or above any of intels chips, and seeing as canardpc said the cpu would easily clock to 5ghz, and there was no architectural reason it couldn't go further, only the power delivery on the motherboard made them stop, there is a chance at high clocks across the board, and with a soldered heat spreader, it wont suffer that massive heat issue that intel does when overclocking.

There is a chance, just a chance that the 4 core 8 thread amd has better oc potential then intel just because of the tmi, and if they are as close as it seems ipc, they may equal or exceed intel, not to mention the FAR better stock coolers will keep turbo or xfr FAR better then intel.

Finding the shills come nda lift is going to be very fun indeed.

>>59043420
But nvidia has better graphics cards with better graphical quality. Not only do they have the only options on the high end (1070 and 1080), but the 1070 is an excellent value in terms of performance per dollar, and they simply produce better results. Even with a high-end AMD card, you get flickering shadows, flickering textures, etc. Have you ever seen a game on each card side by side? The difference is night and day.
AMD:
>shadows look like they vibrate
>small, translucent textures flicker and clip into/behind things
nvidia:
>shadows are crisp, clear, and consistent, moving with the scene, like they would in real life or in a movie scene
>small, translucent textures are exactly where they should be with no clipping or flickering

AMD GPUs are honestly just for poor people who can't afford nvidia.

I will, however, be buying a Ryzen CPU.

>>59043412
>MOAR COARS

Oh the fucking irony.

Wait for vega or not?

>>59043352
I'm pretty sure AMD can get to decide whether to pursue or not, which why would they, the leaks are all positive coverage.

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>>59043393
>APoos when?
they already have many

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>>59043464
Oh fuck, are you the "Nvidia has better picture quality, I can feel it" guy from yesterday?

>>59043418
It's stupid behavior.

If Intel had a 4Ghz 6core for $300 last year instead of $410 for a 3.4Ghz, they wouldn't be losing so much market share in 2 weeks.

>>59043464
iommu tho

>>59043420

Actually it's like I like having top performance hardware because I'm not an unemployed budget NEET building $600 shitboxes so I can occasionally apply some filters in photoshop between shitposting.

Finally now I may have a choice on the CPU end, but AMD will remain a fucking joke in every GPU past budget trash and I'm not gimping my workload so I can look like a good little cultist sniffing AMDs ass like you marketers.

>>59043303
I'm on the same boat, 2-6 weeks is too long, I don't know if I should buy a cheap liquid cooler or buy a high quality liquid cooler, and wait for Noctua to send me the mount brackets. I want to try a liquid cooler, because I've always gone air.

I'm pretty impatient when I want to build a computer.

>>59043377
>>59043447

the sites that never received review kits and are releasing leaks from other sources are getting all the traffic and ad revenue, while the sites with review kits and working on benchmarks have to wait until nda is lifted...how the fuck is that fair to them? amd should tell them to work harder and release the review because leaks are out

>>59043494
>iommu tho
...is a feature on your motherboard and has nothing to do with what I said in that post

>>59043505
>the sites that never received review kits and are releasing leaks from other sources are getting all the traffic and ad revenue

Yes because everyone is going to look at shitty fucking math benchmarks in the leaks now and never check a single site for real reviews after the NDA lifts.

>>59043495
You must be 18 years or older to post here.

>>59043505
The leaker sites aren't ones that are given samples to test. lol.

>>59043493
>they wouldn't be losing so much market share in 2 weeks.

Imaginary market share?

It's going to be hilarious when, no matter how good Ryzen is, Intel maintains 80%+ of the CPU market a year from now.

>>59043496
wait I forgot, buying a cpu gives us stock coolers, I guess I could last a few weeks.

>>59043464

>Have you ever seen a game on each card side by side? The difference is night and day.
AMD:

you seriously can't be this retarded right?

you have to be over 18 years old to post here.

>>59043512
Only quadro cards have PCI passthrough whereas most AMD cards do permit it, making AMD a more compelling purchase for reasons other than "being poor"

>>59043505
CanardPC published a review of an engineering sample they received from a source inside a mobo manufacturer. Do you think this is going to take any traffic away from Anandtech or Tomshardware? Not a chance.

>>59043333
I honestly don't like the 'futureproof' aspect of the card, much of what you said will help it out, but there are other aspects that just scream 'test bed for navi'

Now, just to say this as I hope no one is retarded, 8k will never run on this card at acceptable frame rates.

The on gpu culling honestly looks like a hardware counter to 64x tessellation more so then the useful way you put it.

flop wise, that's just jerkoff motion the stat, sure it CAN hit that many, but what will it realistically do?

Unless msi hands me a 470 or 480 when I send my gpu in for rma, ill likely get vega when it comes out, or soon after, i'm just not expecting a whole lot from it, as consumers are going to get screwed again because all the binned shit is going to embeded and pro lines.

>>59043454
>Most of the market does not overclock, and well never overclock

Yeah, which becomes all the more surprising to think Intel never built a system into their chips earlier. It might have convinced more people to upgrade if they saw larger performance deltas in benchmarks, even though it was from the chip overclocking itself. But I do feel like that'll play a very interesting role when people start benchmarking the the X chips, seeing how much the chips overclock themselves. Ryzen is in an even more unique position, where many Sandy/Ivy bridge users would like to upgrade, but really haven't been given a reason to as of yet.

But the biggest question right now is overclock potential, and how good does XFR work? If it works really well and we see chips overclocking themselves to 4.5-4.7GHz out of the box things might get crazy, even a modest 4.2GHz would be enough on those octo cores.

>>59043526

if the real reviews are the same as the leaked reviews, why the fuck would anybody even bother?

>>59043541

i know, they just get them from other sources with the review samples

>>59043565
...this is a feature of your CPU and motherboard and has nothing to do with the GPU itself. It's officially supported and marketed as such by nvidia for enterprise purposes but otherwise this is a non-factor. I'm talking about performance and quality for video games which is why most people (everyone) will buy these consumer cards.

>>59043571

there is no such thing as futureproofing when it comes to gpus

>>59043561
According to you I'm under 18 because I've compared my purchase options and chose the better of the two. That sure makes a lot of sense. It sounds like you're just an asspained 19-year-old or something.

>>59041845
yes

>>59043594
Real reviews have more legitimacy, though. Fully knowing that the benchmakrs you've seen as of yet are just leaks (and why wouldn't you since all the articles mention it in the fucking title), wouldn't you want to verify if the rumors are true or not?

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>>59043493

Why do you feel qualified to make that stupid comment?

It's not stupid, it is 100% consistent with the behavior of a company in a monopolistic position in the market.

The mistake was the fact that they didn't think Ryzen was gonna be a contender, with even Intel's CEO making fun of Zen last year during a conference call.

Because he underestimated a competitors new offering he very well may not be CEO very much longer.

As evidenced by this supply/demand curve we see that in a monopoly less goods are offered at the same price because THAT IS WHERE THEY MAXIMIZE PROFIT, which is the whole fucking point of a company.

>>59043606
I would argue there is to some extent, nowadays we don't push the gpu nearly as hard year over year as we use to, but we do push the vram now, and have for a while, more vram on the card the longer you can get the best textures to work, and textures are the most important vector for image quality that we can push, lighting is still a few generations away till we can push real time path tracing, if it ever becomes doable at all.

>>59043609

there is no way you were being serious, that has to be a troll post

>>59043571
It's not "test bed for Navi".

Navi is going to be the same architecture with a new memory controller. It seems like that's it.

Vega is the biggest update since GCN released. But yes, it's still GCN based, because GCN is simply the best overall GPU architecture and it'd be stupid to start over with something new for the sake of being.

>Now, just to say this as I hope no one is retarded, 8k will never run on this card at acceptable frame rates.
Considering that Doom runs on the Vega card at a minimum of 60FPS on Ultra at 4k, I do think you'd have some future games there you can do 30FPS at 8K. Though, maybe I shouldn't have said 8K, but triple monitor 4K on a game with less requirements than Doom maxed out.
But I know with my 6 year old 7970, I still run just about any decently optimized game like For Honor at 60fps maxed out 1920x1200. It's gotten better with driver updates and games using more GPGPU and such while the 580 that was sold at the same time is completely obsolete by comparison.

You also still see the 6990 come up benchmarks of new games. AMDs high end cards do age really well.

>>59043624

casual consumers don't care about validating rumors

>>59043652
Everything I said is objectively true and if you were smart enough to compare the two yourself in person you'd know that I'm sincere and, more importantly, correct.

>>59043657
8K is 400% more than 4k, your frame rate would be 1/4th what it is now at 4k

>>59043629
Spotted the business major

>>59043580
If I built the xfr, here is what I would do.

1) a built in burn test, where the cpu is loaded to its max, and we see what we can crank shit to and be stable temp wise, this would take maybe 30 minutes, and only need to be done once every cleaning.

2) I would have the system monitor the temps, and adjust down when the system starts to get close to its limit, I would not have the system go balls fucking out, heat its ass up to much, then clock down drastically and immediately.

This is also assuming all the sensors on the die are able to tell when shit is going out of control or unstable, so it does a better job at ocing then humans self adjusting the shit and running burns for 20+ hours to see if its stable.

But I consider myself retarded, so amd has to have a better system then this.

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>>59043464
The hilarious part about this post is that there IS a difference in the color quality between the cards, but it's in AMD's favor.

If you google "amd vs nvidia picture quality" all the posts are from people that had AMD and picked up an Nvidia and were wondering what was wrong with how things looked.

But other than that, shadows and shit, uhhh that's just your shadow settings, that's it.

>It's like comparing Kodachrome (AMD) to Fuji film (Nvidia)

>>59043491
dont we have objective proof of nvidia's shit image quality where they would disable effects in driver on new games during release so benchmarks are higher, then patch them in when people found the effects to be broken?

>>59043686
Yes I obviously know, which is why I said that maybe it'd have been better to say triple monitor 4K, which is 3x. It's not unreasonable to assume that the upcoming Vega card will run many upcoming games at that, at least at over 30fps, or 60fps at lower settings.

>>59043467
???

>>59043702
>vibrating shadows and flickering textures
>HURR MUH COLOR ADVANTAGE
lol k

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>>59042973
>>59043104
>>59043206
>>59043279
>>59043349
>>59043383

>Intel desperately pushing another series of attacks with their remaining lineup of shill forces before the inevitable fallout

It's like Hitler in 1945

I can't wait for the 8th of M... I mean 28th of February.

>>59043464

Good copypasta. Saving it for the Vega threads.

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>Was about to purchase an intel/Nvidia build.
>See this thread.
>Do some research.

At long last, the jews are losing. I wonder if trump had anything to do with this.

>>59043734
Intel's been sucking Trump's ballsack for brownie points and AMD hasn't said shit.

>>59043675

i have both ref 980ti and xfx rx480 8gb and i'm actually on the 980ti right now

i've played bf1, overwatch, dota2, etc. on max settings @ 1080p and they run perfectly fine on both gpus with non of the issues you mentioned

>>59043547
so that means amd gained ~20%

Fucking good on amd.

>>59043742
Intel and anita.

That's all i'll say that.

>>59043724
hur yur imagination.

NVidia has nothing special in their hardware to render shadows better. If anything it's the opposite. You just played some NVidia Gameworks game that intentionally gimped AMD cards.

>>59043753
They'll just suck up to anyone who throws some publicity their way. You think AMD is even gonna bother when they have a Taiwanese CEO, a pajeet VP, and own no fabs at all?

>>59043746
>i've played bf1, overwatch, dota2, etc. on max settings @ 1080p and they run perfectly fine on both gpus with non of the issues you mentioned
There's a strong chance you're just unintelligent and/or pay poor attention to detail and thus simply haven't noticed. Have you ever set both of them up simultaneously and run something like Heaven bench with identical settings, watching and comparing the output of both? I doubt it.
>b-but that's autistic!
typical /g/ response

>>59043754
>You just played some NVidia Gameworks game that intentionally gimped AMD cards.
The eternal excuse of AMD poorfags.

>>59043553
its fully possible the stock cooler will fit all your needs, the wrath was able to deal with fucking bulldozer oced to 4.6 without hitting a thermal limit, and ryzen is far lower tdp then that.

I'm just getting one for ease of cleaning mostly.

>>59043770
I think they've constructed a CPU that will btfo intel.

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I love Ryzen but I hate AMD GPUs...

>>59043657
When you take into account the thought that navi could be an mcm of a smaller gpu, much of the proposed tech in vega makes FAR more sense, with vega just being a real world test of the technologies then an actual need in the card itself.

>>59043773
>Night and day difference
>You need to be a genius such as myself to tell

>>59043776
I paid about $540 for my non-reference 7970 and another $70 for an ArticX cooler for it plus a few more bucks for heatsinks and thermal adhesive so I could make it run nice and quiet and overclock if needed.
That's certainly not cheap.

I still get 60FPS on max settings at 1920x1200 in almost every game now, on a card I bought 6 years ago.

I'd love to meet a retard who spent the same amount of money on a GTX 580 or 680 at that time that's completely obsolete now.
But they don't exist, do they? I never see anyone with those cards, now days, because they had to throw them away for the new shit NVidia is forcing down their throats after they bought hardware that was obsolete the day it was made with shit GPGPU compute performance (that didn't show up in games at the time but does now) and then driver updates that made them even shittier.

>>59043830
The 690 is still good lol

>>59043773

ive been gaming on pc since 1998 and i create content around pc hardware on youtube

what are you going to say next? "you need to get your eyes checked and get glasses"

there is a strong chance you're just flat out retarded or just trolling

>>59043849
That's dual GPU that came out a year later and cost what, like $1100?

$1100 for 50% more performance over my 7970 that came out a year later for half the cost.
If you buy that shit, you're probably not rich, since most rich people get money by not being so terrible with it. The 7970 was actually good performance for its cost. It was just as good as the 680 that came out a year later and is better now days with its driver updates that improved it instead of forcing it into obsolescence.

>>59043858
>ive been gaming on pc since 1998 and i create content around pc hardware on youtube
lmao
I think we can just let this post speak for itself

>>59043830
>But they don't exist, do they? I never see anyone with those cards, now days, because they had to throw them away for the new shit NVidia is forcing down their throats after they bought hardware that was obsolete the day it was made with shit GPGPU compute performance (that didn't show up in games at the time but does now) and then driver updates that made them even shittier.
Your entire post just reeks of "I am poor". I mean, this last paragraph wasn't necessary whatsoever, yet you felt compelled to include it.

>>59043906
Stop buying amd goyim

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>mfw oc'd 5820k

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if it's another bulldozer I'm never buying AMD again

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>>59044001
oh no it sure sux being poor and having all this money to buy anything I want and just not having to pay $650 for an overpriced 1080 because my 6 year old 7970 still gives me 60fps.

huuurrrr.

Why would I need over 60fps when my monitor is 60hz? Most new monitors are worse than what I have. Waiting for HDR10 with 95% DCI-p3 3440x1440 100hz before I get a new monitor. That doesn't exist so I have nothing to buy.

Enjoy staying poor tho

>>59043311
>their end goal was more than likely price to performance
AMD outdid all of their goals back in early December, with Su confident that they would go even further
Intel is getting fucked in pretty much all the benchmarks (except for really heavy FPU stuff using a lot of AVX2), they will release Emergency Editions with extremely high clocks to get the crown back
>>59043629
>Because he underestimated a competitors new offering he very well may not be CEO very much longer.
Underestimating Zen is the least worse thing he did, there's quite some much worse fuckups that are worse
He's living on borrowed time since 2015, living entirely off the growing server market and the literal lack of competition in it

>>59044801
lol fucking poor people, you are so entertaining

>>59043467
At this point might as well keep waiting, or at least wait for the 1080Ti
Price drops are bound to happen as soon as Vega launches

>>59044801
you think bitcoin will ever surpass the GOX bubble value?

>>59043629
lmfao I love how you point out the lessons a CEO should know on how to avoid how to lose a monopoly. I love how you understand this, but not the actual lesson:
To not fall into that same trap when you are the CEO of a company that has a monopoloy.

You say yourself that he's not qualified to be CEO of Intel, yet you call my comment stupid.

>>59044801
>$11'000
Am I supposed to be impressed?

>>59045004
I call it impressive, it could be 11 dollars tomorrow

>>59045004
That's about $30,000 and that's not including my bank account and assets.

You must have to be a child, who is going around calling people poor, if you need that pointed out to you after all someone shows is a brokerage account and wallet. How fucking dumb are you to not understand that can only be a small part of how much money someone has?

>>59045008
Why do you keep pretending to be 2 people? That's the third time in a row.

>>59044891

If Zen comes out as its being hyped up to be, it will be the nail in Intels coffin, not including the hole they dug for themselves with their previous practices.

It can be another Athlon 64 v P4 HT all over again.

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>>59043206

>quad core

ewwwwwwwww

>>59045069

Relax, friend. Material wealth is meaningless. I would still love you if you had nothing

>>59045090
It's not about that; I don't care about money and material shit. I only have it because sometimes other people need it.

I'm only upset at how stupid the person is.

>want Ryzen
>no one willing to make an ITX Mobo
>AMD said they will not be releasing their x300 ITX chipset
Well fuck, I really don't want to stick with intel but I guess I will go with my original plan of i5-7600k and GTX1070.

>>59045108

>>>>>AMD said they will not be releasing their x300 ITX chipset

Please no senpai I hadn't heard this :^(

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I'M GOING TO STEP ON THE /G/AS /G/AS /G/AS

>>59045135
They said they won't be releasing an ITX chipset until Summit Ridge which will be in October. So fuck that I ain't waiting going to go Intel. I have no idea how AMD managed to come to the conclusion that large fucking cases that takes up half of your desk equal enthusiasts.

>>59045135
No X300 on launch, I've heard. Mid March, I think.

>>59045169
Summit Ridge comes out in about 2 weeks. Summit Ridge is the 1700X.

>>59045169
>he keeps PC case on the desk

why?

>>59045169
I like how you're angry purely over your being misinformed due to no fault except your own.

>>59045169
>making up your mind even before he knows for sure what's happening
lel

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>>59041876
I'm thinking about building a custom loop as well, but I think I'm going to do what others have suggested. Wait until Vega.

I'll just use the stock cooler and my current R9 280X for the 3-4 months it takes for Vega parts, including the water blocks, to hit the market. That'll let me try out my other parts in the meantime, make sure I'm happy with everything.

Ryzen 7 1800X, 32GB of 3200MHz DDR4, 400-512GB NVMe SSD, 1x Vega w/ HBM2, custom loop. Need to spec out a decent chassis.

Won't have to upgrade for a long time.

>>59045196
What are you talking about? I don't see any ITX board at launch. Point me to one and I will shut up. Only one I heard will be even trying for ITX is Bioshit and they don't even have a picture. Plus they listed the wrong chipset.

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Cyrix comeback WHEN?

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>people think it will be a twice more expensive chip at half the price

I hope this hypetrain is literally just shills. Expect no more than a 15% performance benefit at the same price level. If it's too good to be true....

>>59045243
>twice more expensive
twice more powerful*

>>59045243

>>59043727

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>>59045256
Nice rebuttal

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>>59045264
I don't have to prove anything. Every piece of information available right now can easily be researched on the internet. It's all fucking over the place.

If you're unable to do that, you don't belong on this board.

>>59045211
>They said they won't be releasing an ITX chipset until Summit Ridge which will be in October
This is what I'm referring to.

>>59045208
Why such a small SSD?

1TB ones are only like $300 for the cheaper ones.

Kind of considering a 960 EVO NVMe 1TB myself since Ryzen ended up being so cheap I feel like I'm not spending enough.

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>J-Jewtel on suicide watch!
Ryzen is going to fail, admit it /g/.

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>>59045327
This guy BTFOed Intel once respectively twice already. Why couldn't he do it again?

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>>59045327
Obvious shills are obvious.

>>59045680
More like one very consistent autismo shitposter, it's /g/ for fucks sake.

>>59045314
Yeah, you're right. Still reading up on this stuff. Last build was a Core i7-920.

I wonder if there are X370 boards with dual M.2 NVMe slots and RAID support?

>>59042973
Shoo jewish devil shoo

>>59045766
There will probably be mini-ITX boards with dual m.2 let alone X370. Not sure about their RAID controllers, though, but I'd think so.

>>59045680
>falling for the bait

>>59045733
An autist would know to change filenames. Pajeet on the other hand doesn't know that this place is archived. Or even what MD5 is.

inb4 vaporware

Thanks to AMD fanboys overhyping the Ryzen and Vega stuff and since they'll probably still shill despite this hardware not being the abolute revolution who'll BTFO intel and do as usual, fall behind, we can expect a nice price drop on Intel/Nvidia for those who want a good pc

>>59043727
>wait for vega
>wait for...*insert appropriate amd product*

Fucking hell have AMD trademarked that yet?
Its like waiting for Godot.

All these poorfags coming out of the woodwork as they actually believe they may be able to close the gap.

>>59046586
What gap?

>>59045805
has the thought that he doesn't give a fuck crossed your mind, brainlet?

>>59046586

ok goy

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I'm going to laugh at You AMD fags when I'll be putting Intel Optane (tm) ssd in my Intel Optane (tm) ready z270 motherboard
Enjoy being stuck at 600mbps

>>59046627
Poorcunt pulling the "jew" card. Shall I be a prick too and call you a shill?
Fucking idiot.

>>59046612

'The Ryzen response: Intel have forgotten how to deal with a genuinely competitive AMD'

Proud AMD Fanboy and current FX-8350 (overclocked to 4.8GHz) here.

Imma buy the 1800X on release day. Fcuk intel.

>>59046768
Of course they fucking did, with that retard of CEO nevertheless.

>>59045229
plz don't they were so shit

I'm enjoying watching AMD and Intel shills fight online but seriously we can't allow the kikes at Intel to dominate the CPU market

>>59041810
what socket is ryzen
depending on how it turns out, I was thinking of upgrading from my 3570k, though I suppose I'll need to buy ddr4 ram as well

>>59046841
AM4.

I'm wondering if it is time now to throw out my 4690k and DDR3. I doubt it though ...

>>59046853
oh, so it's a whole new socket
these fucking motherboards are going to be expensive aren't they

>>59046878
No, B350 & X370 both support overclocking and they start at 69 and 129 burgers respectively.

>>59046888
will I need to overclock to get a good performance gain over my 3570k?

>>59046878
$60 - $250 depends on how much you want to spend

>>59046901
single threaded yes, multithreaded no

>>59046901
No, it has Broadwell-E IPC while also having moarcorez on average. It's also soldered so no housefires when OCing.
>>59046902
That MSI gaymen titanum is 300 dorras.

>>59046910
>single threaded yes
sounds like I'm sticking my 3570k then

>>59046878
Why?! There will be a wide price range.

>>59046917
Why?

>>59044001
>Falling back on the "you're poor" argument
It's like you're not even trying man

>>59046927
because the majority of video games aren't optimized for multiple threads

>>59046937
Oh, they are. More companies started hired semi-decent coders insted of poojeets and new APIs are also heavily multithreaded.

>>59046949
Nice damage control, schlomo. A socket a year keeps goyim in fear, huh?

>>59046947
I thought the new APIs were designed specifically to lessen load on CPUs.

>>59046960
No, to lessen loan on one single thread. DX11 hammers everything that's possible in one CPU thread.

>>59046971
Ah, I see.
Don't you need Windows 10 to use DX12 though? I don't see myself migrating from 7 until they drop all form of support for it.

>>59046983
You have. Unless devs will suddenly start using Vulkan.

>>59041810

Ryzen threads don't need to be offensive

Intel fags hate AdoredTV but you should watch this video for the fun estimates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPaxjsrWT_k

>>59045680
>most applications can't into quad core
>never used linux

are you even trying

>>59046997
Thing is they always are. They cant even have a rational debate as if you disagree with whats said about the new product you are a jew or a shill.
Last time I checked Im neither but obviously I cant have my own opinion.

>>59047004
>estimates.

That says it all, Remember Bulldozer

>>59047023
Remember NetBurst?

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Anyone has similar numbers from 6900K?

>>59047058
That's fake.

>>59047027
I membuh

>>59047077
You're fake

>>59047097
Nah, i mean, most specs looks real, but that voltage.

>>59047103
They're called power states, anon. A CPU doesn't state at one clock speed with a fixed voltage all the time.

>>59047097
it's actually fake, similar image was floating around in early january

>>59047140
Yes. but the thing is fresh out of cinebench.

>>59047152
Do you not understand how power states work?

>>59047164
Not anon but pics fake so why keep going on?

>>59043849
>2 GB of VRAM per GPU
>"still good"

Lolno.

>>59046937
The majority of new AAA games won't even work unless they detect at least 4 virtual(as in, a dualcore with SMT) or physical cores.

>>59047360
U don't know what optimisation means do u.

>>59047392
Most new games are optimized for xbone and PS4. Both of those have octocore CPUs. That means most new games are optimized for multicore.

>>59047475
That also meas they'll be optimised for AMD lol faggot.

>>59046878
It's a socket that's supposed to last at least 3-4 years unlike Intel that comes out with 2 new sockets each year.

The Ryzen APUs and CPUs will share a socket.

Don't know if the 7nm Ryzen in 2018-2019 will be the same or not, but since they said AM4 will be supported until 2020+ you'd think so.

>>59043727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVb25eomcrI

>>59047527
meant for
>>59043464

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The WWWAAAIIITTT...

The endless eternal wait...so long We wait...

Zen does not come...Zen never comes...only the WWWAAAIIITTT exists now...

We wait...We wait so long...We wait endlessly...we wait for eternity...

There is no Zen...never was Zen...never will be zen...only the WWWAAAIIITTT.

Zen does not and never will exist. Only the endless eternal wait exists.

Wait.

Wait.

WWWAAAIIITTT.....

>>59047532
There are two things that an AMD fan cherishes most in life:
1. Waiting
2. Being disappointed

>>59047498
Sniper elite 4. Steam forum threads full of amd owners asking when the games going to be optimised for them as it runs like dogshit.

No.

>>59047556
Ryzen, retard.

Video games are also for the jews.

>>59047560
>jew
Fucking hell do you ever get tired of playing that card or the shill one?

Just wondering how you get through life without buying other "jew" products.

Ryzen- no legitimate or factual stats yet released yet you are calling it the best thing since sliced bread. Havent you cunts learnt from past fuck ups this isnt a good idea.

>>59041845
>>59042217
>>59042853
>>59043303
>>59043316
>>59043467
>>59045170
>>59046784
>>59047532
>just wait another n month you'll see it'll be better then
Yeah keep waiting forever to buy "a better option". Guess what it ends up having no option at all.

>>59047600
Y-yes goyim, buy Intel™ Core processors. Do not wait.

>>59047556
That's a GPU problem though

>>59046960
No, the new engines/pipelines are designed for minimum frame draw latency.

Which means using multiple threads simultaneously instead of one long lock on a single thread.

There's even been talk of doing things like predicting where things will be when the next draw call happens during the previous draw call on another thread to further reduce the frame draw latency by having less locking work to do to prepare the draw call for the next frame.

>>59047611
Apparently not, people with amd cpu's and nvidia cards are struggling.

>>59047585
Actually i've barely posted anything here other than questions i wanted answered, and then started mocking you for your wasted effort and time in attempt of unsettling people from their anticipation of an end to disappointing anti-consumerist monopolies like intel and nvidia staggering technological releases for the purposes of cash cowing inferior performance at extortion prices.

You are quite literally a victim of sheeps law and the sunk cost fallacy mating through genetic recombination to create a freak show of autistic psychosis when shown textual representations of anonymous strangers opinions.

You are a fucking waste of oxygen and people like you need to re-evaluate not just their lives but the very nature of what it means to be alive if your mind is so easily victimised by shitposting.

>>59041810
Poorfag here. How long until computer manufacturers start selling prebuilts with this?

>>59047641
>thinks I need to rethink my life for posting on a forum whilst im at work.

Holy shit you really are one of those mentally ill retards whos life revolves around this place

hahahaha

>>59047672
If you're posting on 4chan whilst you're at work, you are the very definition of a failure.

>>59047665
Never since intel will be bribing OEMs again like in the old athlon 64 days.

You shouldn't get a prebuilt anyway. Even if you're poor.

>>59047665
(you).

>>59047672
>posting on a forum whilst im at work
what did he mean by this?

>>59047600
you're a moron
every once in a while best bang for buck comes, that's what you wait for
such as huge die shrinks and optimal architecture for example

>>59047687
You mean ESPECIALLY if you're poor.

>>59041810
should i sell my mobo and i5 6600k and buy the new ryzen?

>>59047694
Id get outside more if I was you.

>>59043333
Thanks, I'll wait until Vega is out. Any idea when that may be? I only know it's coming someime in the first half of 2017.

>>59047749
yes sell it now before any official results and figures have been released. Thats a great idea.
If you are asking silly questions like that expect a dumb answer.
You know you actually have the ability to make decisions for yourself

>>59047864
Raja will say something on GDC. Other than that, i have no clue.

>>59047899

>>59047899

>>59047899


ITS HABBBBENING

>>59047922
its fake.
Then again the biggest pop will be on the 28th when the bubble bursts

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>>59048004

>yet another brand shilling garbage thread

when did we become inundated with insecure virgin 12 year olds?

>>59048011
hey look he cant think of a decent comeback so he uses the jew one.
original.

3 more days, lads. Can't fucking wait

>>59041876
Wait till Vega.

>>59042756
Waitfags win again!

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>>59048030

>>59043601
it has a lot to do with nvidias GPU because they block it

>>59043238
>inb4 you talk about salary, cuz I'll have you beat there too.
>overcompensating for small pinus inferiority
kek

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>>59048073
bet you got a folder full of those. Im interested why you are so upbeat about these new releases. Its not like your parents will upgrade that pc of yours.

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>>59048197

I'm rocking 2600k I bought for undrr 300€. Will I finally find similarly priced cpu with great performance increase when oc'd?

>>59047687
Thanks anon, don't know much about tech but currently looking around for a new pc.

>>59044001
I got money to spend not money to waste, if you don't know the difference I really feel sorry for future you.

>>59045071
someone said it before, amd should offer up a hefty bounty for anyone who outs intel monopoly practices.

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>>59047600
I have a phenom II... you know what here.

Up till about 2 years ago I felt no need to upgrade, even now, upgrading is questionable, but my ram is ddr2 and there is a clear bottleneck because of it.

I waited because I was not paying 700~$ to move from a quad core to a fucking quad core.

My new system, i'm planning 500$ on the cpu, 200$ on the mb, 250 on the ram, 250 on a hdd, and 250 on a ssd with around 100$ for a modular seasonic psu, 50-60 on a bluray burner and 160-180$ on a case.

because I waited instead of buying just the newest intel, i'm getting overkill for a performance uptick instead of par for the coarse.

>>59045169
why put a case on your desk?

>>59045314
considering nothing really benefits from nvme speed, and because its in its infancy it costs allot, and also because it overheats it throttles to barely above sata... really hard to justify nvme drive.

>>59046564
amd has yet to let me down.

Should I sell my 2mos old i7-6700? (non-k) and my gigabyte h110n mini itx?
I want to know if there would be a upgrade in fps on cpu heavy games like arma 3 and shit.
I'd probably buy the equivalent in price to my previous cpu and an itx mobo. (have they announced itx mobo for ryzen yet?)

>>59048662
In arma's case it is probably not worth it. Buy do what you want famalam

Putting up with my fx8150 since launch seems worth it now.

>>59048798
I still have a phenom II X4 945 for gayming soo i hope ryzen will end this jewery of intel's high prices

>>59048623
Then im guessing you didnt set your hopes on anything top end

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>>59043464
>>59043702

>>59048824
http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=irol-ownershipsummary

Yes because none of the shareholders of AMD are jewish..........

>>59043701
XFR is touted as super dynamic. Fuck loads of sensors monitoring temps, current draw, voltage supply, and relative resistance in real time all over the fucking place. If AMD is to be believed, the processor will monitor which cores are being used the most for your specific task and boost those while downclocking and undervolting the underutilized ones to balance TDP headroom. So basically if you're running some dogshit game with no multicore/thread support, it'll clock core 1 to the moon and cut the other 8 back to make the most of your motherboard's VRM and your cooler's performance. And if you're running some multithread heavy workload like encoding it'll balance everything as much as possible to to maintain the best possible performance across all cores.

I expect there to be generic toggles like "cool & quiet mode" and "balanced mode" and "just fuck my shit up I'll crack a window if I have to mode"

>>59048897
t. filthy subhuman hook-nosed rat

>>59049173
Imbecil
>You must be 18 or over to post here

>>59049149
XFR doesn't slow down other cores. Cooler transistors leak less, and with that comes a small handful of other exploitable properties. The chip has a model of the characteristics of the process its made on, and its 1300+ sensors are monitoring critical paths in real time. If the chip is kept cool enough it will attempt to squeeze out as much frequency as possible without increase power consumption, and will do this with all 8 cores loaded.
It does not auto overclock a single core, it does not provide massive clock boosts, it does not lower the clocks of other cores to favor some.

If the cores are maintaining 3.7ghz steadily the chip will try to increase frequency above this for milliseconds at a time without violating TDP. The net result is a higher average clock for virtually no increased power, nearly free performance. It is based on thermal margin, hence the heat sink requirements of XFR enabled parts.

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>>59041810
My body is ready senpai.

>>59049349
are you sure you can take it all anon chan?

>>59049354
He'll be daijoubu.

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>>59049354
Give it to me anon-senpai~

>>59049386
Are you sure? I'm afraid I won't hold myself back with a girl that looks like you~

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>>59049414
Baka senpai, it's okay, i can take it.

>>59049427
Ok then, I won't be at fault if I cause a ripping or splitting~

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>>59049445
That's nothing high quality american duckt tape can't fix.

>>59049465
I'm afraid you wont get the opportunity to put it on the wound :3

Well that died a death then

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>>59049487
It won't, there has been bigger stuff around~

>>59049517
Wow, sounds like you have quite the appetite anon chan, I might have to call backup

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>>59049541
Backup is already inbound fampai desu~

>>59049573
I'll leave it to them to care of you then anon chan
Bye~

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>>59049584
>tfw senpai leaves you alone without ryzen

>>59043234
Do we know when Vega cards are going to be coming out? I'm planning a new build for Ryzen, and am still on a Geforce 750TI, so I'd like to upgrade that, but I also want to upgrade it on the sooner side. Willing to wait a little for Vega, but not *that* long. Not sure what I should upgrade to if I don't wait though.

NEW THREAD

>>59049545
>>59049545

>>59049626
Sometime in Q2. They'll release more details at GDC.

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>tfw AMD is back

>>59044001

Throwing away money for irrelevant increases doesnt make you rich. It makes you a retard. Even actually rich people i made pcs for tend to buy a very very good pc once 3-4 years and just make regural upgrades to their peripherals. Most of them are clueless retards that just want "the best"

I only care about single core performance, which model should I get?

>>59049804
>>>/v/

Intel's panties my be sodden in piss, based Jim.

>>59045346

Because he fucking left.

>>59050546
>I don't know how microprocessor design works

So what exactly would happen if Intel went for Ryzen's path of removing iGPU and gaining all that space for 4 extra CPU cores?

>>59051533
How do you not know what the i7E line is?

>>59051556
Aside of the obvious Intel Jewish core tax what's more expensive from manufacturing point of view? Extra cores or iGPU?

>>59051591
As far as I'm aware, gpu part is less sensitive to defects, so it's not as taxing to yields, but mm^2 of silicon is still the biggest factor.

For example nehelam was a ~250mm^2 chip without igpu, newer intel quad cores sit at around ~150mm^2 and sell for more. Also note that the increase to cost compared to die size is not linear either. So 40% from that means intel could get away with around 100mm^2 for a quadcore+uncore by my count. (Some of my numbers might be dual core parts,but those have the same raw size of gpu on them regardless)

>>59051533
it won't happen, they will not break the contract with NSA

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IT'S HAPPENING

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A real Kryptonite now

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Firestrike Physics

>>59049757
What's regural?

>>59043606
>>there is no such thing as futureproofing when it comes to gpus

If the technology is sensible and can perform well AND the API to talk to it is good enough, developers will probably at least try it out.
If the hardware performs well and the results are good, it will be shipped.

Futureproofing GPUs does not mean "divining what devs come up with" but instead "offer something to the devs". AMD does that. Nvidia doesn't.