Ryzen 1600x benchmarks

>>59015921
>So Haswell/Broadwell level.
So literally 4 year old performance? Kabylake came out you know? It's a good 20% faster per clock than Broadwell

AMDfags, getting excited over 5 year old performance

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>>59015946
>It's a good 20% faster per clock than Broadwell

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>>59015946
>It's a good 20% faster per clock than Broadwell

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>>59015946
It's funny when people don't know what they are talking about.

The difference is 9%, and keep in mind that the 7700k is clocked at 4.5 ghz, versus the 4.4 ghz of the 4790k. So the difference is more like 7-8%

You were saying?

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>>59015955
>>59015964
>>59015979
Fuck off, poo in loo shills. Official slide.

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>>59015987
>posting marketing slides to prove your point

>>59015987
>promotional material
>based on Sysmark 2014
lmao retard

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>>59015991
>>59015999
>AyyyyyyMD "leaks" are gospel
>officially verified Intel benchmarks are lies

How fucking delusional are you people?

>>59015987
>Windows desktop productivity benchmark
Kek, meanwhile AMD uses cinebench and handbrake for Zen.

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My 5820k from almost 2 years ago.

Meh

>>59016024
>ching chong nip fong benchmarks

It's irrelevant anyway. All Kaby Lake chips hit 5.1GHz+ on air, whilst Skylake tops out around 4.7GHz at best. Kaby Lake is faster all around.

>>59016018
You really don't understand marketing slides do you?
Why don't you use a third party benchmark?

>>59016064
Yeah, sure they do, on 1.5v

>>59016073
>1.5v
try 1.35v

>>59016067
SYSmark is an independently-verified third party benchmark that's considered an industry standard.

>>59016089
pfthahahaha

>>59016089
And intel is a lying jew company that hasn't released an honest marketing slide in its entire history
What's your point?

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>>59016075
Sure they do, enjoy your housefire.

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>tfw to intelligent too buy ayyyymd

>>59016122
to be fair, 4.9GHz at 1.375v is pretty damn close to 5GHz at 1.35v

it's not hard to imagine with good enough cooling and some luck, you can get a chip that can handle 5GHz.

>>59015946
You mean 5% better right?

>>59016135
No it's not because that halfwit claimed everyone can hit 5.1+ and you're already at 1.4v at 5.0 WITH an AVX offset on a fucking golden sample sent to Anandtech of all places.

tl;dr he's full of shit and Kabylake is practically Skylake that can hit 150-200MHz higher clocks with housefire temps

>>59016161
>fucking golden sample sent to Anandtech of all places.

If you think intel bothers to send out golden samples to anandtech you're having a laugh.

Most anandtech reviews have shit OC compared to other reviewers desu.


I've been reading anandtech daily for about a decade now, and have read all of their launch articles on every intel and AMD release since the early 2000s.

>>59016161
>claimed everyone can hit 5.1+

That's a fact. All the tech sites have their 7700K set at 5.1GHz for benchmarks. It's the standard overclock.

>>59016185
>standard overclock is to run a 14nm chip at 1.5v

Sure, now go put out that fire already.

>>59015921
>Assuming this thing is running on 3.3 ghz, 3,7 ghz turbo, I tested the scores on my 2600k.
It's not, it has XFR which is auto overclock and pushes it near 4.5Ghz

In conclusion AMD's IPC is abysmal again, barely reaching Sandy Bridge

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Damage control has reached critical mass and it's note even the 27th yet.

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>>59015987
>15% better performance from Skylake to Kabylake
>15% better performance from Kabylake to Coffeelake
Oh boy I can't wait for Haswell 4.

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>>59015921
hmmmm, that sure is an exact single thread score of an i7 6800k.

I had the multi thread score higher but my power went out. Oh well.

>>59016256
Where is this from?

>>59016395
Intel Retail Edge.

>>59015987
>Believing Intel
I can show you many stores that sell suicide rope, fag

>>59016132
So you make your own processors?
Tell about your Dickzen 6.9Ghz Housefire edition

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>>59016406
Kektacular.

most butthurt on /g/ is from people who bought an intel cpu within the last 12 months and regret doing so now.

>>59016256
>How can intel compete with that?
THEY CANT

>>59015946
Are you retarded?

>INTEL BTFO.
>HOW CAN INTEL EVEN COMPETE
>INTEL ON SUICIDE WATCH
>INTEL SHILLS ON HALF SALARY SO THEY ARE MAD
>THE GOYS ARE ROLLING IN MR GOLDSTEIN TEARS.

>>59016602

Wait for Intel "sales" to start popping up.

The butt hurt from intel fanboys is just beginning!

AMD should make combo deals with their CPU, GPU, SSD and DRAM, possibly rebrand some case too and sell it for 15-20% less than individual parts.

>>59016995
This would ruin the pc market. I like it.

>>59016995
>GPU
don't want radeon trash

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>>59015946
>>59015987
>>59016018
>AMD BTFOs 6900k live on stage
>You can literally download the very same Blender file and run it yourself
>A fuckton of leaks confirming Zen performance being competitive
>Reputable insiders making positive remarks, possibly under NDA
>It's just marketing! Wait for official benchmarks!

>Intel's """IPC gain""" has been a proven ruse
>Posts Intel marketing slides

>>59017123
Good for you.

>>59016995

Expanding upon this maybe project quantum will become a reality now?

>>59017141

You should see the mathematics being done over on places like anandtech and semiaccurate - the numbers are coming up at around broadwell to skylake IPC depending on workloads.

>>59016995
No highend rig until Vega launches, and AMD has no m2 NVMe SSDs rebranded yet.

>>59016995
other vendors will get real angry
it will ruin
1. vendors
2. OEM
3. and finally AMD in a long run

what realistically they could do is to offer retailers to make such combos, like nvidia did but with actual benefit of being cheaper

apparently their SSDs aren't bad so it might work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZWnCnpDWzM
>post yfw

>>59016245
>It's not, it has XFR which is auto overclock and pushes it near 4.5Ghz
Source: your ass

>>59016018
>officially verified Intel benchmarks are lies
>marketing slides lying
Who would have thought!
>>59015979

>>59016245
XFR is black box for now, let's not burn hype railroad with hype train on it

>>59017281

XFR is exciting for the end user but the real secret sauce people need to be looking at is Infinity Fabric - depending on exactly how good it is it opens up a whole world of options, many of which could (in theory) let AMD get the jump on Intel and Nvidia in some growing markets.

>>59017322

Shhhh....

https://youtu.be/pN8P6jHAqlU

>>59017322
Fabrics aren't really consumer oriented, they make or break markets with high socket rollouts though.
If your 20k CPU server has a better architecture but a shit fabric nobody's gonna use it.

>>59017422

Infinity Fabric controls the clock speed, voltages, and temperatures on the fly.

With next generation branch prediction, that looks at the source of the data, and what to do with it.

"Thousands of sensors" - Lisa Su

>>59016135
>to be fair, 4.9GHz at 1.375v is pretty damn close to 5GHz at 1.35v
It really, really is not.
Voltage requirements go up more as you try to push higher clocks. 4.9 might need 1.375 to be stable, but that means you likely need somewhere between 1.39 and 1.42 to be stable at 5Ghz, and potentially as high as 1.45.

>>59016064
>>59016073
>>59016075
>>59016122
>>59016135
>>59016161
>>59016185
>>59016194
That being said, roughly 58% of the chips bought by SiliconLottery (and they do report on every chip they get) hits 5Ghz. 28% hit 5.1Ghz.
An overwhelming majority, however, only hit 4.9Ghz, at 78%.

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>>59015946
>ignores reality
>haswell/broadwell sell top dollar new or used
>thinks firelake is better
>posts from moms house
>no father
>sad

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>post yfw all hypes aside AMD will likely be dropping six core 12 t cpu's with simmilar ipc to broadwell at prices of Intels I5's with only 4 cores and no HT

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>ayymd is finished goys

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>>59018055

Too hyped... Can't think straight.

>>59015987
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10959/intel-launches-7th-generation-kaby-lake-i7-7700k-i5-7600k-i3-7350k/8

pls die intel
no more overpriced cpus with no performance improvement

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Whats the bet that suddenly AVX2 is the most important thing ever for a cpu?

>>59018993
all everyday software gets rewritten overnight?
we can safely bet Moore was an alien then.

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>>59019208
Oy vey, I wonder who could pay developers to exclusively optimize for AVX2

>>59019232
>intel pays devs to optimize exclusively for AVX2
>suddenly their chips that even support AVX2 look like the housefires they really are (AVX2 forces their maximum TDP)
>AMD puts out a GPU driver update that intercepts AVX2 and executes it on the GPU instead (but only if running an AMD CPU)
>suddenly it looks like AMD+AMD setups are insanely power-efficient and faster than Intel+Nvidia or even Intel+AMD

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>>59019306
Don't tell me they planned this all along.

>>59019365
Yes heterogeneous computer, but everybody laughed because only execute on weak APU.

Now have powerful Ryzen.

>>59016995
3dfx tried such bullshit and failed.

>>59019306

Wide adoption of AVX2 would fucking murder one of Intel's big money spinners - laptops.

>>59019437

AMD backing HSA is one of those things that takes forever to really get going but when it does its a game changer. Naturally we are a long way from it yet but thats where things will head. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if their new Infinity Fabric is explicitly designed to scale like that.

>>59015946
>Says the increasingly nervous shill for the 9th time this year

>>59015921
And that's at stock clocks m8
Rumors are it can hit 5.0 on an air cooler.

>>59016256
Top kek

>>59017186
>You should see the mathematics being done over on places like anandtech and semiaccurate
You mean Juan preforming mental gymnastics as to why his "predictions" are correct?

>tfw my motherboard is on its way out
>USB bus has been getting flakier and flakier over the last few weeks, to the point where my phone won't even charge normally and my keyboard misses random strokes
>but Ryzen is about to come out at the perfect time to upgrade
I fucking hope it's good, I don't think I can afford to wait much longer before this thing completely shits itself

>>59016995
Bump

>>59019934
Get a replacement USB panel, it may or may not help you.

Finally an upgrade over my 3570K

>>59019868

That as well as others presenting more believable numbers (whih is to say, broadwell-E performance generally speaking).

>>59019365
HSA looked like garbage at first because
1. nobody wanted to support it
2. nobody had the hardware to support it
3. nobody had the software to support it

Now though...
1. Everyone wants it
2. the hardware is here for it
3. everyone wants to code for it.

>>59020189

AMD's long term master plan really is an attack against Intel and Nvidia from so many different angles (and only few of those are taking on said two giants head-on as AMD will lose that fight).

AMD's $300 CPUs with comparable performance to Intel's $1000 CPUs is the big news. Who cares if Intel CPUs are 5% quicker. Hell, they can be 25% faster, I'd still get a Ryzen. You get 75% performance at 30% of the price. Intel should be scared.

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>>59016256

>>59016602
>haha, people who bought a better cpu will be mad!

You realize this thing is trying to compete with fucking haswell? The thing that came out years ago?

>>59020640
Well said, goy! The performance will trickle down.

>>59020640
And KL is 5% better with 100% worse TIM. Bravo Intel.

>>59020640
they literally live demoed against a 6900k and won

lucky noob said that its well above intel

random armchair engineer says its haswell level

>>59016064
>All Kaby Lake chips hit 5.1GHz+ on air

how about stop lying? also after 4.8ghz ocing it is not worth since you get just 2fps more, have to use way higher voltage and temps are huge issue. Anyway it still is a bit better than Skylake but not much. Ask Digital Foundry they will say same shit

>>59020667
he doesnt specify if he is using a kaby lake on antartica or on amazon..

>>59016185
and he keeps on lying

>>59020667
>he doesn't liquid cool with helium to get those sexy 8.4GHz clock speeds

>>59015946
$2 have been deposited in your account

>Passmark multithread doesnt matter
>passmark single thread doesnt matter
>waiting for cinebench
>cinebench doesnt matter
>waiting for WoW

>>59020640
What's the difference between Skylake and Haswell, 10%? It's 400MHz more. AMD can clock their CPU a little bit higher than Intel. Anyway, those 10% aren't going to matter because even 10% weaker 4core for half the price is a great deal for i3 buyers. R3 1100 targets the same price tag.

>>59020721
1100 is for those folk with pentiums.

>>59020640
You can spin it however you like, in reality it's competitive with Broadwell at minimum and Intel hasn't improved in literally 3 years.

Intel have nothing to put out and actually compete for the next 4 years at best. They got caught with their pants down and they know it. We'll see a huge rewrite of their roadmap the next time they announce it with a brand new architecture slated for 2021 at best, but until then they'll be trying (and failing) to improve their process which is their only lead right now.

They're going to lose their margins and they're going to lose the performance lead by next year. AMD's already made good on their previous performance gains, and they'll likely make good on the 15% they wanted with Zen+.

Waiting for people to figure out the single core bench is an i7, not a Ryzen.

>>59020721
>What's the difference between Skylake and Haswell, 10%?

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Haswell-vs-Skylake-S-i7-4790K-vs-i7-6700K-641/

in between 0.5-16.5% most of the time less than 8%

>>59019306
that would be good but i doubt it can work at all
given that the cpu will we have to lose many clocks on this(unless they specifically optimise the drivers on the programs which we will enter on a new era of drivers for cpus..)

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>>59016549

>>59020868
Can i get a quick rundown on that guy?

>>59015921
>™Muh gigigglegurtz and moar corns!

AMD is going to make a mint off you spec sheet specials

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>>59020878
NO

>>59020898
Did you even read the post you dumb motherfucker?

>>59020749
source:your ass

>>59020701
>WoW doesn't matter
>waiting for Skyrim
>Skyrim doesn't matter
>waiting for.. uhh some x87!?
>x87 matters yes INTEL WINS

>>59020976
No-no-no Ryzen FPU throughtput is GREAT, you need AVX2 for Intel to win but it's housefire then.

>>59021018
You don't need AVX2, you just need anything bigger than 256bit FP ops, which includes AVX2 which is basically a unicorn in the consumer software market.

>>59021040
>which includes AVX2 which is basically a unicorn in the consumer software market.
And you'd better use your GPUs for such tasks anyway.

>>59020640
You really don't have a grasp on this whole CPU thing, do you? Haswell i7 is basically the same perf as Kaby Lake i7 but on a smaller process and with a few bells and whistles. Ryzen is on 14nm, has awesome power consumption (if leaks/TDP are to be believed), and has m.2 and DDR4 support etc. Who cares if single core perf is a little slower, especially when that's mostly related to clock speed?

>>59021040
>Intel pushes for AVX2 in all software
>Pentium users get cucked

>>59021145
Everyone gets cucked out of their houses by fire.

>>59020912
>not SIMULTANEOUS MULTI THREAD DRIFTING
You had one fucking job

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>>59021163
As if AVX2 uses any more power than a regular workload :^)

>>59021145
You can't vectorize everything, and you're pretty much screwing over 96% of the entire market.

Where AVX is useful : Browser, blender, CAD, 3d applications

>>59021191

I.E all areas where gpus are making massive inroads into.

>>59021252
While I agree it'll take time for GPU's to start handing that work on a large scale for consumerkikes.

>>59016602
I bought an i3 6100 a year ago and I'm really happy my next processor will probably be cheaper and faster because of Zen, whether I buy a Zen or Intel

>>59021271

The writing is on the wall though. Intel really hasn't reacted well to the surge of gpu acceleration in the last 5 years or so.

>>59021293
>Intel really hasn't reacted well to the surge of gpu acceleration in the last 5 years or so.
They did, hence why Xeon Phi is a thing.

>>59021293
How can they respond when their own GPUs are shit? You think their partners like Cisco and Cray like being dependent on one technology? You think they haven't asked Intel to do something about this? Their answer was Xeon Phi which is still a joke compared to Teslas

>>59017561
>silicon lottery
Oh, look, it's this kike again. You got btfo yesterday and you're back for more.
The kikes at silicon lottery use $400 motherboards, the most expensive water cooling available and they only test overclocks for 1 hour. That's right, only 1 hour on the best motherboard on the market using the best cooling you can buy.
>1 hour
Most people don't have $400 motherboards and most people don't have crazy expensive water cooling. Their 5GHz chip simply won't be stable in most peoples' computers. Also, 1 hour is nowhere near enough to test stability, especially when you're working with 1.4v+ voltages. Overclocks often crash 6-12 hours in.

It's safe to say most of their bogus overclocks don't make it past a couple of hours of stress tests or games.

>>59021301

Xeon Phi is them failing horrifically. The mere fact that they managed to salvage something out of the project is not an indication of any real success.

>>59021301
Which ended up not being what was promised, they promised a plug-n-play cooprocessor, instead you got a GPU with x86 cores and it still takes as much time and effort getting your software running on it like it does for Teslas and Firepros.

If it was plug-n-play with some header and compiler changes, even if it was weaker it would literally take over the market in a year, this I can guarantee you 120%.
But since it's not and you still need as much manpower like GPUs that have been doing it for years, it's not really a popular option.

>>59021301

Lol.

"Moar serial coars!"

It is not an acceptable answer to GPU parallel compute, period.

>>59020930
>Namefag
No, he didn't.

>>59021404
>>59021393
>>59021382
Well Intel can't into innovation period.

>>59021413
Innovation is nonsense, there's nothing new in this market and hasn't been for a decade, it's either well executed ideas or badly executed ideas.

>>59021442
Project Denver was pretty fucking innovative, they just got cucked by Intel's licensing. Nationalized x86 license when, Trump?

>>59021495
Denver is a gigantic housefire. Just like every Tegra.

>>59020878
acromegalia, implying either brain tumor or growth hormone intake, and thus an early death

>>59021495
A in-order core is nothing innovative, they've been used so far back that AMD and Intel were just starting out on x86

It's in order due to thermal and time constraints, if it was OoO it would be a even bigger housefire but wouldn't shit the bed in many workloads.

>>59015921
>I got 129 single core, that means a 13% improvement in IPC over Sandy Bridge.

You don't know what IPC is. CINEBENCH isn't IPC :3

>>59015921
Ill be riding high on my cheap 4c4t cuz good enuff for my secondary. Meanwhile you spergs are ckawing over each other for moar corns. For what new renders of you Bad Dragon commission
That and flappung your half chubbed epeens about? I'll take a rock hard 6 inches over half chubbed 7 inches any day.

>>59021523
Yeah, that's not the point. If it wasn't for Intel's licensing, Denver would natively run both x86 and ARM code.

>muh tdp
You're the one holding back innovation. Sometimes you need a...hot new product :^)

>>59021548
:3

>>59021551
>Sometimes you need a...hot new product :^)
Hey fuck you Huang.

>>59021551
Nvidia has been trying to get a x86 license since forever and it's not getting it, period.

>>59021599
And that's good.

>>59021607
How's more competition in the x86 field bad?
>inb4 Via

>>59021622
Because NVIDIA turns everything it touches into fucking housefire. Fuck 'em.

>>59021647
So you have a housefire x86 manufacturer nobody uses.
Maybe they get their shit together and start being competitive.

>>59021607
It's really not, duopoly is not good.
Look at ARM, look at how much players there are, look how much performance they squeeze out each year.
That hasn't happened in the x86 market since 1997-2005

>>59021622

VIA are still releasing cpus.

>>59021599
Which is fucking illegal but Intel doesn't care. They treat fines as investments.

>>59021668
>Look at ARM, look at how much players there are, look how much performance they squeeze out each year.
Different arch my dude. And ARM still has miserable performance.

>>59021689
How's it illegal?
It would be if Intel was the sole x86 manufacturer due to monopoly laws.
Not licensing your own patents is not illegal at all.

>>59021690
For its power target ARM is leaps and bounds ahead of x86, especially the Apple cores.
Why do you think Intel is incapable of getting into the <10W market? goytax and margins are lunatic and their architecture is uncompetitive in perf/watt at that power target.

>>59021690
ARM performs alright for what it is. Intel hasn't managed to make an x86 ARM killer, and not for lack of trying. It just doesn't scale well to higher speeds and TDPs

>>59021727
>especially the Apple cores.
These thingies throttle down in nanoseconds.

>>59021713
Yeah I had to double check, I was wrongly under the impression RAND licensing was legally enforceable (it should be)

>>59021744
Well no shit because Apple is known for its good cooling solutions.

>>59021759
>Thermal throttling
>Good cooling solutions
Are you sarcastic or retarded? Insufficient text sample provided.

>>59021777
You're smart, tell me why does it 'thermally throttle'?

>>59021727

Its almost as if different architectures are aimed at different environments and workloads.

>POWER says hello

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>>59021796
Gonna take a wild guess and say its to reduce thermal activity.

>>59021805
No shit, that's why x86 isn't a solution to everything.

>>59021805
Taking this to the extreme, Polaris and Maxwell are both architectures designed to run with triple digits TDPs for massively parallel work

Sorry to rain on your parade but there's about several billion or more devices ranging from ATMs, microwaves, household appliances, routers, printers, TVs, STBs, and many many more that run ARM and MIPS cores, this market is far bigger than the gaymur market and Intel has never managed to gain any ground in it for 30 years.

>>59021827

GPUs really are fantastic for throwing more hardware at any given problem - its just a case of if you are able to cool the thing.

>>59021877
It's like you're willingly trying to ignore server/enterprise market which is mostly x86-64.

>>59021877
Okay. Are we supposed to care? Go masturbate to an ATM or something.

>>59021897
Done.

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>>59015987

>>59015946
first post most retarded post

>>59015921
>CINEBENCH
this is all well and good but what about what actually matters?
What's the POOBENCH score?

>>59016064
sub 20% hit 5ghz, sub 5% hit 5.2

>>59021379
5% make it to 5.2

seriously, you think I got btfo last time, I use them because they post the % of cpus that hit that shit, and when fagots claim every kaby hits 5+ ghz, posting silicon lotterys numbers, even as shit as their testing is, paints a whole fucking different picture.

>>59024271
And that's on a $400 motherboard, best water cooling available and they only stress test for 1 (one) hour.

>>59015921
I should shop up some benchies for you gtards. Maybe I'll buy a domain for full effect... RealGamerz.info or something g-teir like that..

>>59024334
not best watercooling, just best aio water cooling.

>>59016256
Sir kindly could you please remove the image from this discussion board please.

>>59020774
note the cinebench 15, the cpus are basically identical, the only real difference is ram, which in many of these benches that's where the bump comes from.

Also im interested in how well skylake can keep its turbo compared to haswell.

>>59017232
who needs placebo speeds?