/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>chinkpad
>nice hinges
pick one

>>59007579
My X220 hinges are actually really stirdy. They're just not as stiff as they used to be on IBMs

>>59007579
For whatever reason T4* hinges were asymmetrical, yup.

>>59007649
I think they ran some cables through one of them and to keep cost down they made the other one smaller.

So what's the best model/configuration of X220 I can get without SSD and at which price?

My intention is to grab it, use my older SSD on it and buy a new one for my desktop PC.

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Looking to pick up a chinkpad for a trip coming up down the line, $400 max, buying used preferred, dedicated graphics over integrated, looking for the best vidya performance for as low as I can go. I've narrowed it down to a W530 as of right now with options from other brands picked out such as models from the Dell Precision and HP Elitebook lines, but I REALLY want the Thinkpad. Should I jump on it or should I go with my other options?

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>>59007730
>not choosing a t60
CIA detected

>>59007773
Already have a T40 my friend.

>>59007686
>they ran some cables through one of them
Nay, no cables. Just some odd design choice, just like asymmetrical clamshells, screen bezels and whatnot on some other thinkpad models.

>>59007898
many of those design choices were driven by things like component size and placement

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>fall for the IPS meme
>get a great condition x230t on ebay
>turn it on
>screen burn-in is noticable almost immediately

>>59008058
>not computing optimal image for reversal of burn-in and burning that in
pleb

>>59008058
I'll take screen burn in over tn eye cancer anyday

the tn panels on the x series are unusable

>>59008093
Call it autism but my even shittier 2570p TN doesn't bother me as much as this. It's going back.

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>it's a "normie doubts your chinkpad will even run powerpoint because it looks like a 90s laptop" episode

>>59008093
except this is bullshit. it can display text. that's all it takes for a thinkpad display to be useable

>>59008201
by that logic you would probably use something without a backlight

you might change your hot opinion once you make it out of the dark basement

Using a TN panel in normal day time light conditions is torture. Why the fuck would you subject yourself to using these shit screens on a device that you're going to be working on constantly is beyond me.
media consumption devices have better screens sourced from good panel manufacturers. It's embarrassing that something that is marketed as an enterprise laptop is still struggling to provide half decent screen options in 2017

>>59007925
Yeah, probably, like that WWAN antenna bulge on X60's lid and some other things, but some sure have no reason whatsover, like, why the cutoff corner on X30?

hello /g/, fucked my t420 screen and im broke, so the thing is, can I use a Lenovo Sl400 Thinkpad screen as a spare part?

>>59008297
As a matter of fact, I use a 200 nits TN panel daily. I don't see why that is a problem. Even under direct sunlight it's still readable.

>>59008131
it's not autism
if you're sitting in front of something for a long period of time daily you're going to destroy your vision if it's a shit display. My X200 with a TN is unusable in normal daylight conditions for example. how am I supposed to get work done on my commute if my screen is a fucking dim gray blur on full brightness?

I assume they upped the TN quality but it's still a shit buying choice if you're using your laptop a lot on the go

>>59008400
>Even under direct sunlight it's still readable.
Readable sure but why would I strain my eyes when I can just get a flexview or IPS panel option? They're ok for indoor imo

Is £500 a good price for a used t460 with shitty specs (i5 + 4gb ram + low res display)? will need a ram upgrade

What's a cheap ssd I can buy for my t420? I live in America fwiw.

>>59009524
crucial is pretty good

x220 batteries are so expensive. Ebay + Amazon have chinkshit for cheap, but the legit OEM stuff from lenovo is 200 CAD.

Does anyone know if you can replace the CPU in the LifeBook t73x?

Which AmazonBasics bag would fit better a x220?

>>59008946
pls respond

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What is the actual name of that black scaley part of the lid-head?

Got this one online and it was dented in and cracked

Any good chink batteries for my t430?

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>>59007506
Is there a 17in StinkPad?

>>59010035
I had a 17" HP DV7 that was the shit. Look for one of those.

>>59010035
P70

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>>59010108
Heck no I will never trust HP again!

>>59010225
Ayyy arigatou anon-sama~

>>59010262
outlet.lenovo.com if you live in the land of the free

Otherwise they are pretty fucking pricey.

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>>59010297
Damn anon u hooking a nigga up!

>>59009524
kingdian :^)

Just ordered a new X1 Carbon

>>59010393
how's it feel being a cuck?

>>59008479
>you're going to destroy your vision if it's a shit display
myth

>>59010594
yeah, eye strain is a myth

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Any X220 owners here?

What is your CPU and Motherboard CPU temperatures at idle?

I just put on new thermal paste and I don't know if I fucked it up....the motherboard cpu didn't have paste on it, it had some weird jelly spongy thingy that i peeled off and replaced with thermal paste.

Need other people to tell me theres to see if I improved it or not.

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>>59007506

Did I do good? Just bought this new Thinkpad E570 for $860:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9JJ56M0175

2.7 Ghz Intel Core i7-7500U
16 GB DDR 4 2400Mhz RAM
2GB Nvidia 950M
256GB PCIe-NVMe SSD
1920 X 1080P Full IPS display
DVD-RW Drive

In my case I already have an Intel i7-4770K+ Nvidia 1080GTX desktop for home use.

I bought this laptop for travelling and so I could play vidya + downloaded animu when visiting friends and family.

(my company-provided Thinkpad T-series only has VGA out, so it's no good for outputting video :( .)

>>59007579
my x201 doesn't have this problem

>>59010606
Your premise that everything but you favored technology causes eye strain is what the problem is. Nice jew move, trying to reframe what I said.

>>59010775
>reframe what you said
yes because eye strain and damage to your vision are so far fetched as individual concepts
>everything but your favored technology
Yeah, you're delusional if you think using a Lenovo TN anywhere with normal amounts of natural light will not damage your eyesight in the long run. TN panels are dim blurry shit and are miserable to use unless you're in a dark basement. It's sad how far you will go to justify your shit purchase though

I should have never bothered to respond to your single word shitpost anyway so enjoy your you

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>>59010710
what does the red thing in the middle of the keyboard do?

>>59010650
Had an X220 worked great for a few years but had some serious overheating and it just burned out. I changed the paste but no difference

>>59010710
>E series
>~900sheckels
please tell me you're joking

You're not even supposed to buy memepads new

>>59010896
Hmmm I got mine as a certified refurbished...it seems ok so far...

I just wanted to puit high end thermal paste on it since I just did that to my old 2010 Sony Vaio and the machine runs like I just bought it now it's freakin amazing.

>>59005107
>the thinkpad meme is about older models
This used to be true, here on 4chan everyone is poor. I put a UXGA IPS and ran a X9000 with post-absolute-shit NVS board and 8GB DDR2 in my T60 (frankenpad) in 2011. Frankenpads were the last statement against the Lenovo takeover. It was however just fun. While we talk about build quality and all of that, how we can still use 10 year old thinkpads, we have to think. Does a laptop need to last 10 years? In many cases it doesn't. You have "build quality," that is more notable than some, but for what use? A 5 year old Thinkpad will never be a new Thinkpad. It becomes encumbering in many ways.


Do many people "need" a new laptop? No. Do many people "need" a car? No. What do you need? Food, water, shelter, will to live. Everything else is to improve life or put off inevitable death. Old Thinkpads are a cheap way to access the internet and watch Chinese cartoons. That's why they are so popular here.

In the "do I want to fall for the old Thinkpad meme" decision, you have to ask yourself these questions:
>Do I want to be "that guy" with an old laptop?
>Am I counting on this computer to perform an essential task?
Some will mention the space station, which has very different requirements. You do not want to use most of what fits those requirements.
>If I travel, do I want to constantly be looking for a wall outlet?
You will hear arguments of people who claim 12+ hours of battery, this is achievable on certain models if you have a young, high capacity battery and likely a young slice battery as well. Both of these are likely additional costs and add considerable bulk and weight compared to laptop batteries that power today's much more efficient systems.
>Do I want to spend money on an SSD and more RAM?
After using the stock 5+ year old Thinkpad, you are very likely to want to.)
>Do I really want an old Thinkpad?
Are you buying a cheap meme? Am I romanticizing at the expense of practicality?

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>>59010035
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w700/

>>59010955
Pretty good tbqh

>>59010886
It pleasures the laptop

>>59010839
>far fetched as individual concepts
no it's just that your assertion that all panels except the one you like are liable to cause eye strain isn't well supported

>basement
now you're reaching chang

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Enjoy feeling of retro seasdie X40.

>>59011282
I used Lenovo TN long enough to know it's complete shit compared to other screen tech

Even media consumption devices have better panels

I suppose you're going to tell me I didn't use TN now since that's the argument you're trying to push since you have no valid points

>>59010955
>here on 4chan everyone is poor
It's not about being poor, it's about wanting good value. For most users, even pretty hard-core nerds, a T60 class machine would serve perfectly well as long as they were content with older games. In exchange you get a nice durable comfortable machine with long battery life (assuming you buy some chink batteries) and a more secure computing experience. It's also a fuck you to the rampant wasteful consumerist attitude toward computers.

In the last decade computers have gotten thinner but not really better, and for some people they have gotten worse. Some people have a use-case for a shit ton of batteries still, instead of one built-in battery. Maybe a person has a special application that uses the parallel port? Is there even a USB to parallel port adapter?

It's beyond a retro feel, it's taking more ownership of your computing life than is possible with the new botnet chicklet laptops.

Since thinkpads are so durable, does it mean that one with a broken corner must have had a truck run over it or something? (t series)

t. considering buying one on ebay

What does /tpg/ thinks of the future T470(p) ?

>>59011368
probably will be shit

look at how they gimped the x1 to make the yoga the "flagship" product

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>>59011314
I'm an oldfag and have used every screen technology when it hit the market. Normal active-matrix LCD was a godsend for that type of technology, and wide viewing angle displays such as we saw in the original Powerbook G4 were amazing, but I haven't seen anything as nice as my plasma display since the CRT days.

You're just a fucking kid, you have no perspective.

>>59011410
I'm looking for a laptop that can run CUDA.The smaller the better.
Unfortunately, it seems that "business" means only Microsoft Office Powerpoint and Excel to the ears of Lenovo.
(And a Gaymer machine such as Asus ROG, Alienware, Razer or whatever produce these cringy machines would be too embarrassing to bring with me everyday)

>>59008492
>glossy displays
kys mate

>>59011519
>CUDA
I run that shit on my desktop with a gtx 1080 remotely

check out hp zbook studio g3
absolutely shit tier qc but doesn't look razer tier (and razer has terrible qc too)

clevo might be another option

>>59008298
>cutoff corner on X30?
makes it look thinner? it's classy though

>>59011455
No you're right. TN is better than IPS and we're all under a jew spell for thinking otherwise
Those viewing angles, added nits, color accuracy are pure fiction of the jew. There is no scientific way to measure any of these things to suggest that one technology is superior over the other due to advances in the sector

Long live 800 x 400 pentile Amoled and anything else old that gives me the appearance of a pseudo intellectual hipster!

>>59011539
neither the flexview or IPS panels on any shitpads I have used were glossy
protip: Not everything is a macbook

>>59010650
even when it was brand new mine still idled at around 50C. I don't even think the fan turns on until it's above 50.

>>59011550
>doing HPC natively on your laptop
i never could understand kids who insist on doing this, if you're away from your home computer / desktop / htpc why not use it for compute jobs?

don't kids these days remember preparing and then running jobs on higher powered machines than what they could muster at home?

fuck my university was running a power architecture "super" computer in the 1990s as well as next clusters, i usually used the next cluster because it was so fucking fast as long as a bunch of calc normies weren't trying to plot shit in mathematica

>>59011550
>hp zbook studio g3
How would this differ from a T470?
These are 8 years old troubleshooting an HP machine running Linux.

>>59011615
cool story :^)

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>>59011605
actually my favorite panel is pixel qi

shit kicks ass and you can turn the backlight off and have "retina" / ebook reader sharpness

>Intel Core 2 Duo T7300
>2GB RAM
>HDD
>15.4" 1680x1050
>T61p

100€
Worth it? Are the hinches replaceable?

>>59011654
>turn backlight off
that is a pretty sexy feature

The god of autism used to use one as well

>>59011706
WATCH OUT FOR NVIDIA!

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Hey /tpg/, I got this L420 for free from a family friend. It's pretty basic, has an i5-2410M, 4 gigs of RAM and a 250 GB hard drive. The Windows installation is fucked, filled with maleware of every kind, but a clean Linux install can take care of that. I know it is not one of the recommended models, but it seems a lot better than the fucking awful BestBuy HP I've been using for the past 3 years. I'm thinking of getting a new battery and taking it to university starting in September. Worth the $80?

>>59011775
Do you live with your parents?

>>59011769
it's literally not an issue if you simply run the computer upside-down at home, hooked to an external display

>>59011775
why the fuck are you niggers always asking how good a deal is AFTERWARD?

who fucking knows

>>59011793
Good tip, thanks.

>>59011775
Even if it's lacking sturdiness and shit it should still be pretty comfy.

>I'm thinking of getting a new battery and taking it to university starting in September. Worth the $80?
Run it through a few cycles and see what kind of battery life you can get out of it. Depending on how you're using it at university even an old battery might be fine, whether a new one is worth it will depend on exactly how you'll use it. I got through some of my time at uni with a 6 cell that eventually got down to 60% capacity and still managed fine since I just used it to get work done between lectures anyway.

>>59011706
id avoid it because nvidia was known to ship out defective chips to laptop manufacturers of this era. That being said my t61 seems to be doing fine although i assume its a later revision (as it has a t9300 core 2 duo with the nvs140m)

>>59011925
Yo. I know all about T61 boards. I can tell you if it's one of the bad ones. Happen to know the FRU or manufacture date?

>>59011769
So it's a no go? Haven't gotten a good hold of a thinkpad deals in a long time and i could be needing one soon. Would the price be okay for a non-nvidia one?

In case it blows up it has 3 month warranty.

>>59011808
I said I got it for free. The battery is $80. Sorry I didn't make it abundantly clear for you, cuntaroonie

>>59011785
At the moment yes. I'm a high school student after all.

>>59011896
It seems to power off after about 30-45 minutes. I'm actually not too sure what to expect from uni, I'm told that not all lecture rooms will have plugs at every seat so a decent battery is a must, which is apparently one of the main reasons our friends' son ditched this computer and got a Mac (aside from the fact that he wrecked the Windows install). Would it be a good idea to leave it for now and scope out lecture rooms come fall, to see if a battery is even necessary?

>>59011946
where do i find the number of the board? im curious as to why mines kicking on for so long

>>59011949
If it's an Intel integrated graphics board it's good
If it's an nVidia board made during or after 08/08, it's good
If it's not, then it gets tricky
If it's a 42W7873 it's good.
There are a few others, but it's best to simplify it and just for the Intel igpu

>>59011984
wouldn't it be fair to assume that the defective ones would be dead by now? like they are going on 10 years old

>>59012007
No. Do not assume such things. That is poorfag mentality.

I still buy NOS parts and computers on the regularly. You don't know the history of what you're buying if it's not NOS. Not saying that you have to, but when dealing with known high-failure components, don't assume. There will be other cheap Thinkpads that aren't nightmares if and when they die some day.

>>59012036
is there a way that i can accelerate the failure of my personal t61? it just sits here and collects dust and want to experience this said nvidia failure first hand

>>59011957
>It seems to power off after about 30-45 minutes.
If you've given a full charge (and left it charging a while even after it thinks it's complete) then is should be an accurate enough indication of battery life. Of course once it's no longer running virus-ridden windows and you start trying to optimise power use it should be a fair bit better but still kind of limited. Might be an idea to just check the wear levels to check how much a new battery will improve it.

>I'm actually not too sure what to expect from uni, I'm told that not all lecture rooms will have plugs at every seat so a decent battery is a must, which is apparently one of the main reasons our friends' son ditched this computer and got a Mac (aside from the fact that he wrecked the Windows install). Would it be a good idea to leave it for now and scope out lecture rooms come fall, to see if a battery is even necessary?
I would assume you won't be using power points in lectures, even if you can get access it's still a pain. It'll probably depend more on whether you actually want to use your laptop in lectures. Technically you shouldn't since it'll just be a distraction, but up to you whether it's worth paying that much attention.

But yeah I wouldn't rush to buy a new battery. If you're just using it to fuck around at home without needing battery life you won't have any need for it anyway.

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>>59010989
interesting

thank you~

>>59011984
How about

>T60
>2GB
>SSD
>1024x768

100€

>>59012183
Fuck me and
>Intel Core Duo T2400

>>59012183
what capacity ssd?

>>59012189
64 GB Kingston.

>>59012183
I would recommend looking for a T61. They are old but most likely better than you need for anything you do on a daily basis. A T60 could work though.

T60s are max 3gb ram, whereas t61s max out at 8gb (expensive in the USA DDR2 SODIMM) ram

Both can have the comfy 4:3 and the t60 has some good display options available, especially the 14" version.


But the big question is: What are your requirements?

>>59012196
it seems a bit much, t60s are getting long in the tooth these days if the ssd was of a decent capacity it would it. As for the core duo you can easily just drop in a t7600 core 2 duo and be done, they are worth peanuts these days.

>>59012065
I don't know, but this is a fun vid. How much do you want for it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qS1KDgVotk

>>59012223
I got one more hit here would this be it?

>T60
>Duo T7100
>4GB RAM
>Some hdd/ssd
>really looking like 15.4" but not sure.

>>59012315
What are your requirements and what is the price?

>>59012326
>>59012315
I really just want the best thinkpad-money ratio.
This one is 80€, it seems to be the lowest i have ever seen near here. If it can roll up threads and play videos (even 1080?) it's fine.

>>59012385
What's the use of FHD if you have XGA?

Best thinkpad to money ratio is found in SOME T61s (not kidding), sometimes you can find an x300 for sale (pretty cool "ultraportables") and then you're really left with the xx30s and up. This year it seems xx30s are the sweet spot since so many are coming off-lease in America.

Europe is really a different market that I'm not autistic enough to know about.

You won't get 1080 from what you've got. You can hope for SXGA+ on a T60 if you don't know the res for sure, but you're not likely to get the luck of the draw.

For a browsing machine they are comfy though. T60s are some excellent feeling machines. To me, the fun of it is 4:3.

I just got a qualcomm atheros card in the mail. What the fuck is this shit? I'm not using a lenovo(tm) wlan card so I can't boot my machine?

Can someone tell me how to modify the whitelist? I've tried several methods online already, including using the WWAN slot and taping over pin 20. Nothing seems to work. I can't even boot after disabling the card in bios. I don't understand.

I'm using an x200s btw.

>>59012517
just modify the BIOS, make a live Linux USB and flash that shit. Are you dumb?

>>59012432
Would this work as the high end pad beside the browse T61?

>W520
>i7-2630QM
>8GB
>500GB HDD
>NVIDIA Quadro 1000M

Seems to be in A grade 420€

>>59012549
Sure, I'm dumb. I've never modified a BIOS before. What tools would you recommend besides a live usb?

>>59010710
Oh god you spent $850 because you couldn't connect your work laptop into a TV?

>>59010955
Sounds like a nice T601 disguy.

>>59011455
>tfw the gridcase 3 we sent to some buyer broke
>he said that the last one broke because of the screen
>when he got it, it 'mysteriously' didn't work anymore

>>59012007
I go off of that as well. If it hadn't died yet, it probably will keep on ticking.
If not, I have a heatgun to fix it.
If it still dies... can just get another Core 2 Duo T series to replace it.

>>59012385
i had a T60 with intel gfx, it was able to kinda play Youtube videos fine with Zorin os installed
Otherwise you'll have lower frame rates and possibly stutter when pausing.

>>59012743
Just download the fucking bios via windows then.

Are Panasonic let's note worthy?
I used an old one once and I was incapable of setting the sound on linux.

>>59013326
If you live in Japan and have easy access to the second hand market there sure. For anyone else the value just isn't there given how cheap other business laptops are everywhere else. If your interest in getting a let's note isn't purely utilitarian though then they're probably reasonable enough machines.

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>>59013326
>install turbolinux

>>59014004
>turbolinux
first time I heard of it. Never saw it before, 95% of Japanese Linux user I saw were running Ubuntu.

>>59014096
In the late '90s I knew a guy who got a computer with Turbolinux in BIOS, no shit. I believe it was an Abit motherboard.

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Retro ThinkPad When?

https://youtu.be/8lqAa_eD84A?t=13m35s

>>59007579
Even if it's thin as fuck it's almost certainly stiff and sturdy as fuck. I know my T43 are, although they probably need to be tightened because they do have a little bit of wiggle, whereas my X220 has no wiggle at all and the T520 has just a tiny bit because of how big the display is.

>>59010650
42C-50C idle. Gets a little toasty easily because it's an i7 model and I've never opened the thing to replace the paste or dust it out.

>>59010650

# sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +49.0°C  (crit = +99.0°C)

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1:        2988 RPM

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +51.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +51.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +51.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

I want to get a 4:3 laptop and i am looking at either the X60, X61, X60s or X61s. What are the main differences in performance, build quality and battery life? Are the s version worth buying today - will they be fast enough for my daily tasks, including browsing the web, programming and working with 3D printers and other external tools. It would run Linux, of course, with i3.

>>59014722
www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_series Click the little link to the X6x Series, then go through and read their specs.

>>59014755
I am aware of the technical aspects, but what are the real-world scenarios?

>bought a used thinkpad

Is wiping it down with water and a cloth enough to clean it? I dont have anything else

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>>59014917
talk to hillary about it

Does the T420 palmrest really fit the T430? I want to replace the keyboard, but I am not sure whether I want to modify the keyboard or to replace the palmrest.

>>59010650

~ » sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +47.0°C  (high = +87.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 0:         +38.0°C  (high = +87.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 1:         +47.0°C  (high = +87.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +39.0°C  (crit = +104.0°C)

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1:        3393 RPM

Where the fuck do I buy one???

>>59014917
Try Clorox wipes.
>>59015125
Ebay.

>>59015162
How do I know what is a good buy or not though?

Please help me, /g/.
My T430 is running REALLY hot.
I tried a lot, I cleaned/replaced thermal paste.
my fan is running on highest setting.
What do, /g/ees?

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>>59015195

>>59015195
I'd look more into what's running on the software side of things, assuming you're having problems even when it should be otherwise be idle.

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>>59015193
I'd say what is and what isn't a good buy is entirely up to you. But look around at prices for the specific model you have in mind and if you're patient enough wait for one to pop up with a lower price than the rest in good condition.

Ok so finally got my X220 after Customs fucked around with it for nearly 2 weeks.

$200 + about an extra 70 or so in shipping & customs charges.
I5-2520M @ 2.5GHz (though Screenfetch & Neofetch say 3.2GHz?), 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, IPS Display. It was in near perfect condition bar a crack on the palmrest but no biggie I replaced that for almost nothing.

Now... my issue with it is the wifi card. It's an RTL8188CE card and it just doesn't want to work with the most recent version of the Linux Kernel. I got it working briefly with the rtlwifi_dkms package on the AUR but again it stopped working after a while.

I was intending on replacing it anyways I just don't know what. Any advice? I hear Atheros cards are good for it.

What's wrong with the t440? I'm seeing a lot of them in local classifieds for around 400 euros. For example there is one I'm eyeing for 450, with 8gb RAM, 256 gb ssd and full HD display

>>59015431
>I5-2520M @ 2.5GHz (though Screenfetch & Neofetch say 3.2GHz?)
the 3.2GHz is the max turbo speed and 2.5GHz is the base clock. I'm not sure exactly how well the X220's cooling performs but chances are it'll handle around 3GHz and over fine anyway under continuous load.

>>59015448
The touchpads on them aren't well liked. They're a fairly major redesign otherwise, being more compact and offering an internal battery but they're less solidly built from what I've heard. They also started using ultra-low-power CPUs as standard with that generation so you're taking a performance hit in return for battery life.

If you're happy paying that much extra just for portability improvements then they're not a terrible choice I guess. Have a look at the T450 as well since it has a better touchpad.

>>59015492
>chances are it'll handle around 3GHz and over fine anyway under continuous load.
I haven't seen it go higher than 60 yet so here's to hoping.

That's not my issue though.

>>59015492
Thx, I don't know whether I should upgrade my t420 or sell it while it still has value and get a never model

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Dell XT3. Worth buying? No problems with the hinge and stuff after prolonged use? I have an opportunity to buy it cheap.

>>59015431
I had the same problem with my T430. I used the lts kernel for a while, but then I tried installing rtlwifi_new-dkms and it just werks.

>>59015544
T420 will always have value imo, especially upgraded, since lenovo is fucking up every thinkpad release since T430.

>>59015594
It's not working with rtlwifi_new-dkms that's my issue.
I'll try using the LTS kernel

>>59015599
T420 are ridiculously easy to sell. It looks like there's some sort of meme status behind them.

Whenever I put a listing up it sells in a few days. I don't even need to entertain lowballers.

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I installed win xp on my t420 to play pic related, but the wireless drivers don't seem to work. I cant find any networks. Did any of you guys have luck with that?

>>59014722
>the X60, X61, X60s or X61s
>It would run i3.
it wont

>>59014839
>I am aware of the technical aspects
you're not. Go read some more on what chipsets and sockets are and how they work

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Is that a T430 on first plan?

>>59007506
best 13inch laptop??

>>59015832
* <13inch

>>59015811

looks more like an x series

>>59011775
>gets a L420 for free

Now I'm triggered.

>>59007687
Asking again.

>>59015563
fuck,outbid in the last second by 2 dorrars
I think I dun goofed, as it had i7 2nd gen, 240 SSD and it sold for 160$

>>59015914
Chances are they bid more than 2 dollars more than yours so don't feel so bad. Now you know to bid closer to your upper limit at least.

>>59015886
There's countless different configurations out there, just figure out other specs you want (probably CPU and screen), search ebay and grab the cheapest. Unless the price difference is significant, I'd probably take a model with an SSD over something like a 320GB HDD anyway since it's going to be that much more useful and valuable if you resell.

>>59010896
>burned out
Like actual fire?
>>59015674
Try Driver solution pack.
Can I ask why did you install it?how did you get the SATA drivers and where did you get the ISO?

>>59015929
yeah, I'm sure he did. We were the only two with serious offers though. other ones where around 100$. If I got back in time and killed him before the end, I would get it for just over 100$.

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Why does the T420 get recommended so much?

is the x250 any good?

>>59015998
I just downloaded the image and disable ahci mode in bios.

Upgrading t420 RAM...
What form factor and what DDR does it support?

>>59016078
Because it's good?
It's sandy bridge + before lenovo really went full anti-IBM on the designs.

>>59016078
cheap
good enough cpu
usable igpu for normal stuff
easily upgraded
last one before lenovo started to stray from original design

>>59016322
sodimm ddr3

get 8gb (2x4gb modules)

8gb is good enough for most purposes

>>59016363
So T420 support up to 16GB?
I need to use it for ramdisk.

>>59016440
yes, 16gb max

mismatched ram is okay too - brand is not important, but the voltage should be the same

for example, you could have one samsung chip and one corsair, if they are both at 1066 mhz

easier to just buy two of the same brand though and skip having to piece mail two separately

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How do I know if the CPU on my thinkpad is faulty/damaged?

>>59016486
Does it turn on?
>Yes
It's fine.
>No
It's fucked.

>>59016506
What if only a single core is affected?

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>HP Elitebook 2560p
>Core i5
>4GB RAM
>320GB HDD
>6 Cell battery
The seller asks for 220$.
Is it expensive?

Hey anon, I've ordered myself a new t460s from Lenovo's shop with a 44% discount. I went for the i5 8Gb RAM Nvidia 920m build (and threw in a bluetooth mouse, a backpack, and a case too).

Specs should suffice for me for the time being and are a direct update from my current laptop (which is a V580c model with i5, 6Gb RAM and Nvidia 610m).

I want to get myself an actual high-end desktop, but that's impossible for the time being (probably for a year or so), but I need a PC to work, My main priorities were the build quality and longevity, hence why I went for a new model and for a T model (aka "business-class")despite being kinda short on money.
GPU is Nvidia due to me playing some games from time to time. I'm fully aware that laptop gaming is degeneracy, but I hope I'll be able to get stable fps in SFV and GGXrd.
Irreplaceable battery kinda bugs me - 8 hours is probably 8 times more that what I have atm, but how will it perform in 2-3 years? I will be satisfied with 4 hours desu.

So, how did I do, anon?

>>59016739
Newer models are consumer quality, and consumer design, meaning you WILL replace your laptop.
Hardware wise, even C2D should get you by, as long as you don't browse social media.
Gaming on laptop is fine IMO, but the heat generated would damage the CPU, due to poor ventilation.
The irreparable battery means you'll need to replace your laptop after 3-4 years.

>>59016724
Yes

>>59016834
Then should I get a x220 with the same specs for 180$?

>>59016857
yes

>>59016333
>>59016340
I'm so mad Lenovo fucked their Thinkpad line. I'd pay $1500 for a GPU and updated hardware in a x201 body.

>>59016874
Why the price difference?

>>59016894
the elitebook looks classier and is a bit chunkier. This makes the seller think it's worth more.
>t. 8460p owner

Yo. Which wireless cards are best for the x220?
The rtl8188ce is a shit.

>>59016894
You're paying extra for the house fire.

>>59014361
>>59014473
>>59015105
Ah ok thank you--mine was about 43C to 50C at idle--so this is normal.

My old sony vaio from 2010 idles at 31C after I redid the thermal paste on it--it's amazing at how cool it stays now.

>>59011654
how da fuck do you get one of these?

Where can I buy chinkshit thinkpad batteries?

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Is this the holy-grail of thinkpads?

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>>59017003

>>59017196
What the fuck is that?
Is that for the expresscard slot?

>>59017235
Yes

>>59017275
Why would I use that? I'm looking to replace the internal card.

>>59016830
>Newer models are consumer quality
Some source on that?
>but the heat generated would damage the CPU
This sounds stupid, my friend.
>you'll need to replace your laptop after 3-4 years.
Well, I'm perfectly fine with replacing it after 4 years, 3 will be okay too. I won't be fine with 1-2 years, though.

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>>59017160
It's close, but the QXGA R50p is truly mythical. I've not seen even one auction for anything related to it besides compatible replacement parts.

>>59017291
>Some source on that?
leddit comments and review sites.
YMMV.
>This sounds stupid
On the long term, the thermal paste will deteriorate which will lead to higher temp

>>59017325
>leddit comments and review sites
Well, to be honest, I've read some of those and the general consensus goes along the lines of "T series are still pretty much the most reliable option out there". It might indeed have gotten worse, but it's not like I know any better. All the laptops I had faced some problems after less than a year.
>On the long term, the thermal paste will deteriorate which will lead to higher temp
Erm. Isn't it disassemblable? Thermal paste usually takes years to deteriorate and my warranty will only last a year. Overheating is easily noticeable and replacing thermal paste isn't a problem.

>>59017436
As I said hardware wise it's good.
The issues is poor build quality.
Like chassis.
As for the thermal paste, I think the CPU is soldered and accessing it is much difficult.

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sup bros

>>59017464
>the CPU is soldered
Even if the CPU is soldered - heatsink isn't. You don't need to remove CPU to change thermal paste.

>>59017543
I meant that lenovo ditched the ease of access to internal part of the laptop concept.

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How long can you leave sandy bridge running at high temps?
Like 70-80 C?

>>59015811
It's an x250 or x260. X230 has the classic design so it's not that, and X240 has a touchpad without trackpoint keys.

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>randomguy sells T61 for 100€
>says the battery is in its end life
What do?

>>59017805
20-40 years

>>59018315
Buy a new battery?

What Think pad software can you safely disable at startup or uninstall?

>>59018801
You can safely get rid of all of it.

I kept the power manager, fingerprint thing, and hard drive shock thing because they are useful.

>>59017160
this and the W700ds for me(so far)

Will this work in my t420 and am I a retard if I buy this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KingDian-MSATA-M200-60G-MLC-SSD-Solid-State-Drive-Storage-Devices-For-Laptop-New-/111938174647?hash=item1a1008feb7:g:TOcAAOSwYlJW6UAm

>>59019126
Not a retard, but I would consider more storage and ditch the hard drive if you can afford it.

>>59019159
I already have 2 hdd's in my thinkpad so I have 1tb of space, I was gonna install hackintosh on to an ssd then be done with upgrades for a while
Good or bad plan

>>59019180
I suppose it's enough for hackintosh. I had it for a while, I was dual booting Windows and Hackintosh on a 128gb SSD myself, 60GB is enough for it. Not a bad plan, problem is that Hackintosh is the kind of system that benefits much more from having a decent trackpad, and what thinkpads have is decent trackpoints. None of those cool gestures or anything.

I'm wondering how fast is hackintosh on those machines by the way. I only tried it on my PC and while it's not a beast (an i5 4460) I'm not exactly sure how it'll run there, I know there's a guide really specific for the x220 but no idea about performance.

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>>59019126
Seems a bit small.

I went all in and got Samsung 850 EVO MZ-M5E500BW with 500GiB for my X230. It's been super comfy so far as I've been able to just plug drives in the empty 2.5" slot for data recovery and installing VMs.

>>59007506
how many of you actually use the fingerprint readers ?

>>59019238
When SSD fail does it stop writing only?

>>59019263
I don't know. I have backups for drive failures. So far no problems.

>>59019238
500gb ssd seems a bit much for me
Maybe I should go for the middle ground and get a 120gb one
>>59019230
How exactly did you install hackintosh? I spent ages setting up a macOS vm and using unibeast on it to create a bootable usb drive that would install it on my thinkpad (I tried the method on insanely mac before though and I wasn't smart for it to work ;__;) but when I choose to boot from the usb my thiccpad just reboots..

Life as a tech illiterate is awful

>>59019302

Filesystem             Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6              409G  348G   41G  90% /home

It's surprising how easy it is just to gobble up all the space when you have some available. The Windows 10 VM alone takes 100G.

Everything about the hp elitebooks seems perfect to me but then they put a shitty tn panel into a $1200+ laptop.

WHY do they do this.

>>59019422
>The Windows 10 VM alone takes 100G
What?

>>59019302
When creating the USB installer with unibeast you need to choose either Legacy or UEFI. That might be your issue there. I'm not exactly sure which mode does your thinkpad support. I was planning on buying an x220 and putting hackintosh on it as well, I'm just trying to find the right wifi card.

>>59019263
SSD's don't fail in that sense nowadays grandpa

Other than replacing the hard drive, is there any disadvantage to using a SATA SSD instead of mSATA? For instance, regarding speed.

I'm just saying because I already have an SSD here that I could use with my new thinkpad, but it's just a normal SATA drive.

>>59019572
msata is cool because then you can use 3 drives in your thinkpad

>>59019572
The mSATA slot on xx20 and xx30 models is limited to SATA II while the 2.5" slot supports SATA III.

>>59008399
https://www.laptopscreen.com/i/index.php?page=products&brand=Dell&model=ALIENWARE%20M14X%20R2

Fits perfectly

>>59012183

Rip off

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Hey all, idiot here. Can't seem to get the keys off my thinkpad yoga without fear of breaking thing. How do you guys manage to do this? Thanks for reading!

X240 for £200, worth it?

x240 are shit.
Worse performance than a x230, and they lack the trackpoint buttons.

>>59020083
don't do it, never take scissor switch keys off, they're very easy to break, just use a vacuum to clean between the keys and some rubbing alcohol and a clean cloth gtg.

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>>59020117
Thanks!

>>59020117
this, my V key is busted because scissor bit broke

>>59018315
Don't think it's worth it anon. No battery means you'll have to chuck at the very least $20-$30 for a sketchy chink battery.

>>59011336
>here on 4chan everyone is into gaymen
Stop projection your life's failures onto the population of this board. There are a few of us that use technology to enrich our lives, to make money, and rail sl00ts. Just because your "good value" buys you something to waste what little productive time you have on this earth, doesn't mean that everyone is okay with being an absolute loser.

Everything else you twist into a justification for your lifestyle is a lie. There is no statement to "rampant wasteful consumerist attitude," there is no more definite statement which convicts one of an antisocial mind and sour-grapes insecurity.

If you like Thinkpads, that's fine, but don't try to convince yourself that you are happy in life because of a brand of computer. You seek the high of "consumerism" by striking a "deal" on a 5+ year old computer. If you could have any life of your choosing, I sincerely doubt it would be your own.

>happy with X220
>really need USB 3.0

if only I had known at the time to look for an i7 model

>>59021083
Expresscard to USB3.

>>59021156
those are shit, don't recommend those to anyone ever again

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>>59007506
What the closest modern equivalent to a Dell latitude D630

>>59012570
Not sure if you're still there, but that's not a bad price for a W530 with similar spec and FHD in the US.

Not sure what the conversion is, but I know some people who would be very happy with spending $400 on a quad core w530 with FHD and dGPU. Look for the NVIDIA 2000 though, you can't swap out the gpu on these models.

>>59014333
I've spoken with him a few times. This man fights for our freedom.

>>59014722
General sentiment is to stay away from the "s" series. Generally more portability, but less performance and battery life.

>>59016078
The t420, and most xx20s, are not good options if you want any semblance of battery life without expense or thickness. The display and audio on the t series from this gen are absolutely dismal as well. It is cheap, it will likely be your favorite computer if you are mobile. If you are not mobile, might as well go with the W series where you can get much better displays.

>>59016212
Yes.

>>59016333
Sandy Bridge is not really cut out for 2021. Don't buy in 2017 if it will be your main laptop.. (unpopular opinion)

>>59016830
>meaning you WILL replace your laptop.
I would hope that you would if you need to keep up with modern workflow. The t460 is better than the t420, by leagues. The 470 is rumored to be a hallmark design.
>Hardware wise, even C2D should get you by, as long as you don't browse social media.
Remember, not everyone is a weeb NEET. You will need to do things like watch a Youtube video sometimes, at least.

>>59016857
You can get an i5 x230 for $180. Tablets all have IPS. You will not regret it.

>>59016882
They really didn't. They are just too expensive for you to touch.

*PSA*
IBM/Lenovo keyboards are wildly different. There are at least 3 different manufacturers for a given model. The backlit chicklet keyboard is a wonder of the modern world. If you have never owned a thinkpad, don't fall for the meme that the meme magic ended in the **20 generation. It ended far before that. Meme magic =! value.

>>59021365
>=!

in what language you write the '!' AFTER the '=' ?

>>59017160
It is *rare* that and what >>59019058 said are the mainstream rarepads

>>59017315
There is a non-CCFL screen that blows that display out of the water. I'll leave you to discover that part number.

>>59017471
Truly sad that /tpg/ holds these laptops in such high regards and leaves this as their final fate. Nothing, especially other people, deserve to be around this.

>>59018315
>What do?
Make him an offer that affords you a new battery.

>>59018844
>hard drive shock thing
Get gud and get an SSD. You can't even wrongfully claim that your old Thinkpad™ is "just as good" as a modern machine until you at least have that.

>>59019238
To go all in, get the PRO. Many many more R/W cycles.

>>59019446
Same reason why t420s have TN panels. They are spreadsheet machines.

>>59020117
An important note to realize when bragging about your thinkpad. If you own one and are browsing on 4chan, it has scissor switches.

>>59021023
somebody needed to say it

>>59021202
I've never used one. Why do you say?

>>59021490
In what language do you not capitalize the first letter of a sentence, not use proper parenthesis, and leave a space before a question mark?
I'm drunk, anon, sheesh.

Do all x230 have IPS display?

>>59021568
No.

>>59021568
The tablets all have IPS. After that, your best bet is an i7 and luck.

>>59021528
>and leave a space before a question mark
France

>>59021754
>and leave a space before a question mark
That is only one of three qualifying factors listed.

>France
If you live here you are already dead.

My ath5k just quit working with Debian, even a cold boot shows no wifi card connected but the little status light showing that the wifi card is powered is lit up. It was working until last night, plz hlp.

I'm using wicd.

>>59021979
>I'm using wicd.
You're in too deep water to even consider swimming, anon.

>>59021979
>wicd
Watch out for sharks or whatever lives on top of the mariana trench. You're that deep.

>>59021528
I meant is there a programming language where you write "=!" ?
I'm not from France, but I do like my question marks apart, especially when they come right after some other non-letter symbols, because they look nicer that way.

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>>59016529
how the fuck did you manage that...

How's sound on x220 laptops?

I'm used to onboard sound, but onboard sound means ALC887.

>>59022045
https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Style-William-Strunk-Jr/dp/194564401X

Get gud my man.

>>59022005
>>59022039
it was working just fine up until last night and the issue seems to be that the kernel module won't even load at boot

>>59021528
>To go all in, get the PRO. Many many more R/W cycles.
You're right, I just wanted to sound like a big boy. They also have the 1TB model.

I figured that mSATA is a dead standard already so I shouldn't go all in too much.

>>59021365
>*PSA*
>IBM/Lenovo keyboards are wildly different. There are at least 3 different manufacturers for a given model. The backlit chicklet keyboard is a wonder of the modern world. If you have never owned a thinkpad, don't fall for the meme that the meme magic ended in the **20 generation. It ended far before that. Meme magic =! value.

This is a much needed message in /tpg/. I personally had a mediocre typing experience with X201 and X220 keyboards compared to X40, X61s and X230. I hope there are X201/X220 with the quality typing experience I had with X61s or have with X230 but I haven't personally experienced one.

It's sad that they normied the layout but it doesn't really matter in the end if you just want a good keyboard to type fast on.

>>59022113
Go to the catalog and search "friendly linux"
I would give you better advice, but you asked here. You should know not to ask /tpg/ for help.

This is "Shitposting About Thinkpads Maily from mid-2012 MacBook Pros General"

>>59022160
>Mainly from 2012 MacBook Pros
maybe you, but T410 is the shitposting god of the chinkpad era

My x220 keeps turning off its Wireless Capability at random intervals.

Has anyone ever had this issue before?

>>59022229
is the physical switch fully in the 'on' position?

>>59022139
>It's sad that they normied the layout but it doesn't really matter in the end if you just want a good keyboard to type fast on.

To iterate on the subject, I was still in finance when the layout change came. If you were not holding on to Thinkpads solely for the 7-row unicornboard, the 6 row was a much needed improvement. They key spacing, actuation, and feel is very similar to the IBM style 6-row. By the way, remember both keyboards are scissor switches. Backlighting was also a much needed improvement. There is maybe <1% of the computer-using population who would not practically benefit from a backlight at any given time. These are what are colloquially referred to as "the blind." You can claim that you are a perfect touch typist, but when you're in the air all night, the backlight is your best friend.

I bought an x230 tablet brand new, with backlit keyboard. It outperforms all of the other chiclets I've owned, and all but one of the legacy FRU's I've had the pleasure of using. I can pull the board and check the FRU if anyone is at all interested in quality content and not shitposting about Sandy Bridge all day.

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>>59007506
which thinkpad is most silent?

i have an x60 and t410 both sounds like fucking jet engines compared to my macbook air, macbook pro. even my old ass powerbook g4 and eee pc are barely possible to hear compared to my thinkpads

>>59022370
Replace the thermal paste and fan of the 410
or get something in the X2x0 series.

>>59022370
what parts are making the most noise...?

HDD? replace it with an SSD

fan? Clean out the vents so it doesn't run as fast

if you still have an HDD in your laptop and the cooling is fucked up and the fan is running at 100% then any laptop will become a jet engine

>>59022204
It's not the T410, but you, who is the shitposting God, Anonymous :^)

>>59022370
I may stand corrected, but the xx30 gen is the most quiet that will buy you entry to /tpg/ You can go with a xx40 with trackpad mod if you want to trigger the xx00 through xx20 crowd, or go for the newer models.

Macs had the silence thing down before IBM/Lenovo. And as >>59022204 mentioned, I have 3 MacBooks that outclass Thinkpads™ of the same eras in all qualities except for lovability. Also, the average user can drop an old Thinkpad and replace it for less than $300, unless you are a hopeless poorfag have your data on a local HDD.

The x230 i5 and w530 ianything won't bother you though. Still a little hum, but not too bad. I could go into the t6* heatsink improvements, but I don't think anyone in /tpg/ would be interested in that degree of attention to detail. If you are interested, I would be more than happy to help.

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/sys/5981440973.html
this is good deal right /g/uys?

>tfw there will never be another laptop with just a clit mouse like my X200

>>59022391
>get something in the X2x0 series
This is not the answer to every(any)thing.

>>59022493
A 1366x768 display is not worth spending money on unless you plan to upgrade it, in which case your reasonable purchase price is less than $100. Verify the display spec and realize that even if you're getting a 1600x900 display, you are still getting a display that is nothing special, if that is a requirement.

Verify the display, and ask about the storage. Only then is it worth considering at that price. A T430 with 256gb SSD goes for that price + shipping (if any) about every day on eBay.

>>59022489
>Shitposting God
>only been accosting Soros across 2 threads
Well damn, it's an honor.
I don't mind the xx40 w/ trackpad change, but without triggers my inner jackass.

>>59019058
I know it's the german thinkwiki but take a look at this
http://thinkwiki.de/W701

>>59022507
>>tfw there will never be another laptop with just a clit mouse like my X200

You can delete the trackpad in BIOS. I have been interested in getting trackpad-delete palmrests made for a while now, thusfar I haven't been able to secure enough interest, as the above option is available.

>>59022411
>>59022391
i have had the 410 since it was new and it has been this way all along. i got it for free from my school and i took it to the IT guys and told them it was something wrong with it because of all the noise and they just laughed at me and said that of course it will be noise when you have this fucking powerful i7 thing. so i just kept using my old powerbook and ssh'd into my new thinkpad

it seems like you have to rip the x60 totally apart in order to get to the fan, it seems like lot of work for a 10 year old computer worth like 50 USD lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXnGoHfR5Jc

>>59022637
So, you got it new.
Replace the HDD with SSD.
Shoot canned air into the vents at the very least.

>>59022637
yep the X60 and newer X-series have the motherboard upside down so you gotta take them all the way apart

is HDD basket same for T420/T430/X220/X230?
im talking about the metal plate and rubber sides.

>>59022736
T has a thicker one
X has that shitty slim one
Either way, I just hold my SSD in with folded-up index cards and it has already survived a car crash.

>>59022736
X series only take 7mm drives while the T models are 9.5mm.

>>59022637
its not that bad believe it or not i've taken apart many x series thinkpads, the most difficult part for me was not losing the screws lol

>>59022755
>>59022756
alright thanks.
i bought a T430 on an auction today, 130€, looks pretty good but has no hdd basket and charger.
70+ battery with 30 cycles.

>>59022782
Nice score.

>>59022790
there were multiple T430, T420, X230 going for this price. polish poorfag auction site.
heres mine:
http://allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=6719142580

case looks kinda meh on top but its supposed to be budget PC for my mother, it will do the work.
thanks to u guys i bought X230 six months ago best laptop i ever had. before X230 i have used E540 it was mediocore. sold it and invested into X230.

>>59022613
I suppose so, though I'd obviously prefer to have one without a trackpad altogether. Guess I'll just have to live with the fact that I'll have to compromise whenever my old X200 dies on me.

>>59022577 earned it, kid.

>>59022637
>"it seems like lot of work for a 10 year old computer worth like 50 USD lol"
This will make it into the macro someday.

>>59022637
Good thermal paste will help, but not completely resolve the issue at this point. Torque your heatsink bolts like you do on the lugnuts of a car. Don't tighten one all the way and move to the next. Check the operation of your fan as well.

>>59022776
BTW, Lenovo has fastener documentation in their service manuals. You can order the screws and keep some blue Loctite around for extra insurance.

>>59022825
>budget PC for my mother
Recognized.

>>59022832
Owning an X200 as your only computer can be a compromise in itself, much worst than having a trackpad. Besides for disabling them, by the time xx30 came around, they were good enough as to not interfere with the Trackpoint. The xx40s were a bit ambitious but can be fixed. That's the reason to own Thinkpads, there is always a way if you're the least bit courageous and proficient. There's nothing wrong with having a trackpad as long as you don't use it.

>>59022909
>Owning an X200 as your only computer can be a compromise in itself, much worst than having a trackpad. Besides for disabling them, by the time xx30 came around, they were good enough as to not interfere with the Trackpoint. The xx40s were a bit ambitious but can be fixed. That's the reason to own Thinkpads, there is always a way if you're the least bit courageous and proficient. There's nothing wrong with having a trackpad as long as you don't use it.
I've also got a desktop which has much more power. The X200 is what I take to class for notes and for programming on the go. It's also the machine I like to tinker wtih. It's been upgraded and also librebooted. With 8GB of RAM and an SSD the biggest compromise is the processor. I'd imagine once this thing dies I'll stick with the X line or maybe if it's ever actually released grab the classic ThinkPad that may or may not still be in the works.

>>59022825
>polish auction site
>danish keyboard
lel, they'll probably earn a profit no matter how cheap they sell

Hooked up a EXP GDC to my t420, feels breddy gud. I can answer questions if anyone has any regarding running it on a t420

>get a t430
>Use it for everything now
>Only turn on my desktop if I want to game

thinkpads are TOO comfy.

>>59022997
this, but replace 3 with 1

>>59022952
>Retro Thinkpad
We can only dream, anon.

Why do some keys, including the apostrophe key, on my X230 stop working? How do I fix this?

>>59023676
take the cmos battery out for 10 seconds and put it back in

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Can get an x230 for $200

>i5
>4GB ram
>320GB HDD
>3g modem
>tn screen (I know)
But the laptop itself is in perfect condition and I get a 6 cell original battery with only 29 cycles on it.
Should I pull the trigger?

>>59022982
whats your card? i got a 750 ti and one of those dell psus so it doesn't take much more space on a desk than a 3.5" enclosure. low profile 1050 ti would be crazy small if new drivers worked better with pcie egpu setups

T440 for $300 US...i5-4300U and 128gb SSD. Is this an average price or too high?

Also can it take both an M.2 SSD and a 2.5" drive?

>>59022370
X40 doesn't even fire up the fan in the low-speed speedstep mode

>>59022160
nvm just had to reseat the wifi card

Can these old IBM thinkpads really by upgraded with modern guts (CPU/Screen/Ram/Battery), or are these more of a hobby and collector thing?

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>>59015805
I don't think he was referring to an i3 CPU, but the i3 window manager for linux.

>>59022005
>>59022039
what is the specific issue with wicd?

>>59024339
oблянихyяce

>>59024289
>Can these old IBM thinkpads really by upgraded with modern guts

sort of yes
https://www.google.com/#q=thinkpad+x62
https://www.google.com/#q=thinkpad+x330

>>59024289
we're mostly jerking off over the sandy/ivy thinkpads of 2011 and 2012, which are really only 20-30% behind something like a i5-7200u (even c2d stuff is *workable*). there are brand new laptops coming out today with slower chips

ssd, ram, and screen upgrades are the real quality of life improvements, not cpu

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>>59024690
holy shit, too bad they're all sold out.

>>59022909
>much worst
Oh Changjeet, your awful usage always outs you.

What games can you play on x220?

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Did I fuck up?

>>59024782
you can play almost anything on low settings, just look up intel hd 3000 benchmarks

you can also hook up an egpu to it but you'll be pretty bottlenecked by the mobile cpu/cpu cooling system and the gpu only running at pcie x1 or x2 speed, don't remember

>>59008399
>fucked my t420 screen
Ew.

do thinkpads typically come with HDMI out?

>>59024832
You'll have to add the cost of a SSD.

>>59024874
Not the /g/-approved models. They do have Displayport, which is easily adapted to HDMI.

>>59024874
no, none worth mentioning have hdmi

they do have displayport

which is better, and you can just use a displayport -> hdmi cable, don't need an adapter or anything

What is the best thinkpad tablet?

Apparently X220t has lots of problems.

What's the battery life of the T420 with the standard battery? What can I expect from a refurbished T420 battery? I'm looking at this right now: www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/lenovo-lenovo-t420-intel-i7-2-7-8gb-memory-128gb-ssd-drive-dvd-rom-windows-10-pro-french-english-1yw-refurb-t420/10563803.aspx

Should I expect to buy a new battery? I intend to only use this for writing javascript/html/css/java/c so I'd have sublime and a browser open and I can't imagine that being too taxing on the battery but could I get an estimate?

I don't mind buying something cheaper than what I posted and throwing it together myself but if I can expect a decent battery then this seems like a good price

>>59025916
As a tablet, most of the problems stem from the 1366*768 and mediocre LG IPS panels and the poor Wacom QC where the pen cursor tends to act like it's on meth around the edges
As a touch tablet, it does a decent job though and you still have the delicious non chiclet keyboard (unless you can get it working properly in an X230t, in which case get that)

It's preferable over previous models because Sandy vag (or Ivy if it's an X230t) but yeah

>>59025990
On a new battery, 1 hour per cell on integrated graphics and shitposting on 4chan is a reasonable figure

>>59026142
>>59025990
>1 hour per cell
Great info, thanks

I've often heard that minimum 8GB is rather important for programming but is that just a meme? Like I said, all I'll be doing is web development using html/css/javascript and software development with java

>>59024832
Pfff, no.
You'll basically be doubling the cost with an SSD

>>59023033
I dream of a retro thinkpad with a 16:10 screen that is tablet-convertible and IPS.
Also an i7 and 8GB of ram

TRIPFAGS ARE NOT A GOOD SOURCE OF INFORMATION

>bought and returned no less than seven T420 thinkpads from ebay, newegg, and amazon over the last two months
>all of them are massively damaged or defective beyond the described quality
Are we beyond the pale for good used/refurbished thinkpads /g/ents? I'm getting ready to call it quits.

Do all x230 tablets suffer from screen-burn in?

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>>59026472
7 years of shitposting takes its toll on you, even when you're a fluffy blue aeroplane
>taking advice from /g/ by any measure

>>59026976
The burn in is more of an image retention thing associated with LG quality control. It clears after a couple of minutes as the content on screen changes. So it'll be a prominent issue but it's not like you'll have week old marks. But yes, it's definitely still a problem

>>59026964
Well, I've contemplated getting a Surface Pro as the eventual successor of my X220t. But a Yoga might be the only option should I want a Trackpoint

>>59026234
I don't say this with any real knowledge of anything beyond visual basic and matlab, but 8GB should be plenty unless you're working on an awful piece for whatever reason

>>59026976
Mine has none, but it was basically unused when I bought it a few weeks ago. Battery only had 19 cycles.

Is there anything wrong with buying refurbs from newegg?