Is this accurate?

Every image posted on 4chan comparing operating systems is inaccurate

GNU is libertarian left, make BSD the libertarian right

Pretty much as accurate as the juicy fart I just let out.

>Apple
>Economic Left
kys

>>59004106

no because these are all consumer operating systems

economic right would be a defense department dataflow machine or something

>>59004196
Most of its users probably fall into that category

>>59004160
I think the difference between gnu and bsd would be on the vertical pane.
The cost of using gpl software is your contribution, that might possibly make it a little right of bsd.

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>>59004305
>uncontrolled usage of BSD code that can be owned by anyone
>literal common good
>right wing

no

how can anything but linux be left you faggot?

>>59004261
most apple users are marxist-leninist?

wanna know how i know you're an american? you prolly think top left are liberals dont you?

>>59004870

>most apple users are marxist-leninist?
yes

>>59004106
It is absolutely right.

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>>59004106

make gnu authoritarian left

Lot of people vying for that libertarian right spot, I see. Apple really is the economic authoritarians. GNU is lib left, Windows is auth right.

I have to give credit, this is pottery.

>>59004305
>>59004106
>implying I'm commie
kys

>>59004870
>wanna know how i know you're an american? you prolly think top left are liberals dont you?
In America, the bottom left best describes "liberals"

>>59005867
In America, "liberals" have become increasingly authoritarian.

>>59005867
>>59005906
Fucking memers. There is no such thing as a libertarian left.

>>59004106
No.

>>59004106
No

Windows and Apple uses linux, no one can excape from it (refering as company)

>>59004366
>capitalism
>common good
wew lad

>>59005906
A vocal minority among liberal millennials have become anti free speech.

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It boils down to being either for or against freedom, which really can't be divided into a four-way spectrum. You're either for people having control over their own computing or you aren't.

>>59006017
Move gnu+linux to the other side. Being restricted in how I'm allowed to use source code is not freedom

>Authoritarian right: windows, macOS
>Libertarian right: Solaris
>Authoritarian left: gnu/linux
>Libertarian left: bsd

>>59006041
Incorporating free source code into your project and making it non-free is also not freedom.

>>59006041
You need to put bsd on the far left. Having to give attribution is pure entitlement.

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>GNU
Do this and you will be free

>Windows
Do what we tell you to do

>Linux (BSD might be more appropriate here)
Do whatever as long as you share

>Mac OS
Dude tax evasion and slavery lmao

>>59006133
now this guy is thinking with his brain!

GNU = left authoritarian
Windows = right authoritarian

Yet, Apple / OS X should be with Microsoft / Windows in right authoritarian (restrictive, controlling, patents etc...); BSD should be left libertarian (do whatever the fuck you want, pretty much); Linux should be right libertarian (you can do whatever you want in theory and within reason, but our conventions should always be respected).

>>59005906

>whiny teenagers on tumblr are somehow representatives of american liberals

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blam
there you go

>>59006283
Yeah, Apple could very easily be put in auth right, I was just making a joke about the things they do as a company.

>>59006480
I guess this is /thread

>>59004106
The first freedom makes all free software apolitical.

>>59004305
linux by itself would be on the middle. Linus is a pragmatist, he would use a piece of proprietary software if it's the best one available.

>>59006505
the rhetoric of "first freedom", categorizing and delineating the notion of freedom, anti-licenses etc... is quite political, and authoritarian.

>>59006133
>Do what we tell you to do
that's apple anon
>>59006283
afaik Windows lets you to do much more things that Apple surely won't allow you to do

>>59006578
>Windows lets you to do much more things that Apple surely won't allow you to do
both sell highly proprietary software
both employ tons of patent trolling lawyers
both employ highly restrictive intellectual property legalese

customization ≠ (does not equal) user freedom

Actually pretty accurate

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>>59005930
>Implying the Holomodor was the result of working for the common good

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>>59004106
I wonder where to put Google, Red Hat, and Mozilla now.

Microsoft is obviously authoritarian but Bill Gates made the giving pledge, which is a call for billionaires to give half of their money to charity, so it's economically on the left. People may join it as a leftist caution but it would still save lives.

Apple is authoritarian as well, on the right, because of their products, the target populaton, and the tax evasion.

GNU is on the left and slightly authoritarian because of how they treat software joining the GNU project, which has been partly enlightened by the Libreboot affair (https://libreboot.org/why-not-gnu/), and the fact they've fired a transgender employee who was targeted by harrassement. The copyleft being at the core of the GNU project makes it more leftist than the 'neutral' Linux kernel as I see it as protectionnism.

BSD is libertarian and on the right for the absence of copyleft and, hence, of protectionnism.

>>59006729
>both sell highly proprietary software
But Apple's isn't hampered by serial numbers, activation codes, verification calls, and all sorts of DRM.
You are allowed to run other OSs on your Mac, in fact Apple makes it easy. There's no equivalent of BootCamp for Windows. There's also no equivalent of Darwin, either.

>>59006799
>and the fact they've fired a transgender employee who was targeted by harrassement
>

>>59006729
normals don't care about "freedom" as in "4 essential freedoms"

>>59006837
Thanks for reading, would you mind to develop?

>>59006900
>>59006837
Besides 'trap'/harrassement jokes please

>>59005867
liberals are top right. there's no "in america" about it you dumb burger

>>59006769
>implying the holomodor happened
>muh 10 billion victums of gommunizm :DDDDD

>>59006799
>which is a call for billionaires to give half of their money to charity, so it's economically on the left

thats not what the left means though. how can you people be so politically illiterate? serious question

>>59006043
So did all the Lefty Libs move to Authoritarian right since everyone I know that ran Solaris in the late 90's to mid 2000's all switched to Mac?

>>59006960
"""the left"""
There isn't a single and undividable left. There are many people who claim to be on the left and yet have antagonistic definitions (Lenin, Marx, Proudhon, the "field" of anarchism, etc.).

>>59006017
Literally what does it matter if you can inspect the code or not? Proprietary software keeps all of the noise of shit programmers making pull requests for dumb shit. Also sjws don't flock into your code and wreck your entire organization.

There are many more traps that committed to the GNU/Linux kernel than Windows.

>>59006946

fuck off commie apologist

>>59006820
>But Apple's isn't hampered by serial numbers, activation codes, verification calls, and all sorts of DRM
are you living under a rock?
https://www.fsf.org/search?SearchableText=apple

>You are allowed to run other OSs on your Mac, in fact Apple makes it easy. There's no equivalent of BootCamp for Windows.
you simply run the live image of another OS off a cd or usb and use its installer to do partitioning and set up a dual boot system. it's really quite easy. there are countless freeware and foss tools for windows if you need help doing so.

>There's also no equivalent of Darwin, either.
that doesn't even make sense. that's like saying there's no equivalent of BeOS for AmigaOS.

>>59007027
lol brain dead /g/ toddler so angry when cornered

>>59007023
Well the Linux kernel is still excellent, unlike Windows, so thank you

>>59006838
i'm no gnu evangelist. though i've long been using linux as my daily driver, i've come to a place where i prefer comfiness, so i dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu (only upgrading it on LTS releases). before i switched to linux years ago, i preferred BeOS, which is proprietary AF. i wish i could still be using that OS, but after Be INC tanked and yellowtab got a cease and desist, i had to find something else because it became increasingly impossible to get BeOS or Zeta working with modern hardware. i still understand that user freedom is a lot more than just being able to pimp out your desktop.

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>>59007023
>There are many more traps that committed to the GNU/Linux kernel than Windows.
this

>>59007021
there isn't a single left, but there is a definition of what is considered leftist ideology, and that is any ideology that opposes capitalism and wants to transfer control of the means of production to the workers. liberals do not oppose capitalism, hence they aren't left. love how you googled 3 names though, shows real effort burger

>>59007027
read a book, the holomodor is nazi propaganda. the famine did happen (as famines were quiet a usual phenomenon before the ussr and a few years until the infrastructure to sustain the population was sufficient), but the tale that it was a "genocide" is pure bullshit.

Bottom right should be BSD.

>>59004160
*Arian

>>59006799
>the fact they've fired a transgender employee who was targeted by harrassement
wtf I'm installing GNU/Linux right now

>>59004106
Not even close. Why would Apple be considered left at all?

>>59006982
I was going by licences mostly. There's probably little correlation between OSs and the political preferences of their respective userbases.

>>59004106
Why are techfags so afraid of the libertarian left?

>>59006799
>Apple is authoritarian as well, on the right, because of their products, the target populaton, and the tax evasion.
Not to mention their unprecedentedly large war chest - they horde money at an alarming rate, hardly left-wing

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>>59006946
>The Holomodor didn't happen, just like the Armenian Genocide is a revisionist lie made by the Armenians

>>59006421
>implying whiny teens on tumblr isn't the american left
Anon... I...

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>>59007411
This is you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_the_Holodomor
This is reality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Declarations_and_legal_acts
https://en.wikipedia.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Bibliography/wiki/Holodomor#Books_and_articles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Notes_and_references

>>59006480
This, GNU is pretty fucking far from libertarian. The FSF won't support Debian as a free distro because it gives the user the CHOICE to install non-free software by having it available (not even in the main repos, btw). They're pretty fucking autistic and will hunt down anyone who doesn't share their views or doesn't have a fully free system.

>>59008207
>>59008255
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor_genocide_question

The holodomor happened, whether or not it was a genocide is still being debated by people who understand the situation much more than any retard here.

>>59004106
pretty much

>>59007411
LMAO. Burger?

Some people consider protectionnism (such as Sanders') as left, but it was my mistake indeed. I've got a harder time to understand this political compass than to understand what left is.

Also I purposefully put the names of Marx against Lenin, Proudhon, and anarchism for some other reasons

>>59008353
>Whether or not it was a genocide is still being debated
Doesn't matter. Millions of people died due either to pure malice or idiocy. Either way, it reveals how useless communism/socialism as an ideology and how anyone that uniornically believes it will work if we try it one more time because "It wasn't true communism/socialism XDXDXD" is a fucking moron

>>59008255
>he thinks quoting wikipedia is an argument

wew, nice one.

>>59008480
you're a burger, since only americans are dumb enough to think that liberals are left wingers. like i said, the clear distinction between left and right is support for private property rights vs control of the means of productions by the workers.

im gonna blow your burger mind away now, but liberals and conservatives are BOTH LIBERALS. crazy right? liberals used to be called social liberals, while conservative liberal. the "liberal" and "conservative" are just us jargon, in australia for example conservative liberals are called "liberals"

there is no left in the us. you have a false duality between 2 parties that in reality are extremely close to each other ideologically, despite what they've made you think

>>59008661
uneducated retard with an oversimplified opinion about things he has no idea about: the post.

Famines were very common in tsarist russia, and the ussr had to industrialize very fast to compete with the west. This, plus the impact ww1 and the "civil" war had, left the ussr in a very bad state. In a very few years, living conditions improved dramatically and of course after the collapse of the ussr living conditions also marked one of the largest drops in recorded history.

On the other side, capitalist famines like the ones in india during british rule or in ireland happened because capitalist hoarded grain to raise the prices. You haven't heard about those of course, since you probably stopped caring about history after finishing hs and probably also never opened a single book in your life. This is what your capitalist education has made you, a self-righteous idiot with an opinion about things he has very little knowledge of.

>>59008480
conservatives were called conservative liberals*

>>59008841
>Some people consider protectionnism (such as Sanders') as left, but it was my mistake indeed.
>

>>59008841
>he thinks quoting wikipedia is an argument
>Quoting the reputable sources used by Wikipedia, not the actual article
Bravo

>>59008244
>whiny teens on tumblr
Why did my dick just get hard?

>>59008841
>B-but these other famines were worse
I never said famines were a new thing communism/socialism invented. But it must be one hell of a famine to kill millions of people in the span of a few years. Even the famine in Tsarist Russia and in India under British rule didn't depopulate the region almost entirely to the point that it still affects the region to this day. Stop trying to defend communist/socialist foolishness/malice and blame the capitalists for it. Communism was created by an armchair psychologist who knew nothing about human nature and it led to some of the most horrific acts of all time, just like Hitler did.

>>59009016
>But it must be one hell of a famine to kill millions of people in the span of a few years.
No not really, as far as famines go.

>Even the famine in Tsarist Russia and in India under British rule didn't depopulate the region almost entirely to the point that it still affects the region to this day.
Both those famines had similar death tolls. The depopulation effect is due to that little thing called the nazi invasion.

>Stop trying to defend communist/socialist foolishness/malice and blame the capitalists for it.
It's not about defending anything, merely putting things into perspective. People revising history in order to fit their world view due to political zealotry lose sight of reality.

>>59008903
>Linking the citation part of the article = argument

peak retardation

>>59009016
>But it must be one hell of a famine to kill millions of people in the span of a few years

too bad there wasn't any scientific recording of the number of victims, they just compared population growth in 1932-34 and compared it to other times. that's how they got the number, not actual recording of casualties. there are also 0, i repeat 0, official documents implicating stalin or anyone else with "organizing" the famine.

> Even the famine in Tsarist Russia and in India under British rule didn't depopulate the region almost entirely to the point that it still affects the region to this day

>the bengal famine killed 1/3rd of the population of bengal

I could go on but there's no point, you get the picture

>top trying to defend communist/socialist foolishness/malice

since i made the case that it wasn't "malice", how exactly is taking control of an agrarian feudal shithole and having a famine due to the bad weather condition "foolishness"? We are talking about the ussr before industrialization and collectivization, where weather literally dictated famines.There were famines literally every couple of years in tsarist russia

>blame the capitalists for it
I'm blaming the tsar for it, and the capitalists for making up the holodomor hoax that they still propagate today.

>Communism was created by an armchair psychologist who knew nothing about human nature

dunno where to start with the stupidity of this statement. marx was a philosopher, and if you had actually read him, (heh read a book ah? crazy talk) you'd know that socialism is the ideology of dialectical materialism, of analyzing history and society in the most logical and materialist way. There is no such thing as "human nature", there is only ideology. Like the 3 tons of neo-liberal ideology you're seeing the world through, so blinded that you're oblivious to the basic truth of class struggle

>>59009016
>led to some of the most horrific acts of all time, just like Hitler did

>comparing worker emancipation movements to someone actively running death camps for ethnic populations

you are severely uneducated when it comes to history lad. i'd suggest you open some non-liberal book and try to learn some history first, then read up on some non-liberal theory. you'll be surprised about how misinformed you are

>>59006480
Apple is more authoritarian than Microsoft, but yeah that works

>>59009350
>>comparing worker emancipation movements to someone actively running death camps for ethnic populations

>Killing millions of people in the name of worker's emancipation is somehow okay

>>59009333
> you'd know that socialism is the ideology of dialectical materialism, of analyzing history and society in the most logical and materialist way.
> There is no such thing as "human nature", there is only ideology
>Literally ignoring advances in evolutionary psychology and biology just because some 19th century armchair philosopher said so
Autism

>>59009287
>The depopulation effect is due to that little thing called the nazi invasion.
Yeah that helped. But to deny that the Ukrainians weren't killed off by one of the worst famines (whether it was genocide or not) is foolish

>>59004333
GNU is closer to the libertarian left; you're free to do whatever you want with it, but you still have to cooperate within the laws laid down with the GPL, giving it a bit of an economically authoritarian(?) flavoring

BSD doesn't really give a shit what you do with it, there is no governing body breathing down your neck to make sure you're properly licensing your derivatives (as much)

>>59009333
>there are also 0, i repeat 0, official documents implicating stalin or anyone else with "organizing" the famine.
There are also 0 documents implicating Hitler with the Holocaust. That doesn't mean he didn't organize it.

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>>59004106
where does this kind of autism fall on the chart?

>literally installed RHEL 7 with working subscriptions on WSL (i'll give them effort points for their attempts to make it not work though)

rootfs is about 1.3gb out of the box compared to my ubuntu zesty and centos 7 rootfs's which are around 300mb (before installing extra packages) but i guess if i really wanted to i could literally use my full KDE desktop natively on windows so that sorta makes up for it

The RHEL subscriptions do get ported over and work fine on any machine even if it wasn't the machine it was registered for, which is neat. Could spin this up in a docker container as well if I wanted to and it'd work too.

Anyhow,
>mfw babbies can't even figure out how to upgrade their stock WSL to zesty without breaking the entire subsystem on their own and then proceed to complain about it on microsoft's issue tracker
>mfw people can't figure out how to simply repackage deb packages with obvious changes to make then work and then edit system files to bypass m$ cucking

>>59009554
>Yeah that helped.
To say that it helped is a massive understatement. Ukraine's lost about 3 million people in the holodomor by most credible sources, and nearly 7 million during the nazi invasion by most credible sources.

>>59009902
Maybe I should have used more detailed language, but yeah that can be agreed upon.

>>59006946
> implying the holocaust happened
> muh 6 million victums of fascism :DDDDD

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>>59009896
As a matter of fact, just tried that out.
Full KDE desktop, native performance and haven't run into issues so far.
Nice. Can't really say I dislike the way Microsoft is going (or at least the WSL team) with this.

>>59004106
what does left and right correspond to?

>>59010747
Economy, just like it says. Left is by collective agency, right is by corporations and individuals, i.e. emphasis on free market.

>>59013693
Well fuck, meant to quote >>59013577.

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>>59007302
lolololololololololololol

>>59006133
This.

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macOS is the OS of SJWs.

>>59004106
>apple
>one of the biggest profiting tech companies
>known for tax evasion
>not libertian right

>>59014610
And Windows is the OS of stupid gamergaters who cross-post between /v/ and /g/

>>59015154
Leftists just wants others to pay their taxes.

>>59015362
And pretty much all personal machines at businesses because MUH SOFTWARE, even though it's yet another patch for MS-DOS

>>59005930
"""capitalism"""

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>>59006900
>>59006909
>>59006837
>>59007505
http://fossforce.com/2016/09/fsf-says-firing-wasnt-discrimatory/

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2016-09/msg00036.html

>>59004106
ive used all of them, so am i in the middle?

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>>59007411
> when the holomodor is nazi propaganda and the holocaust isn't
commies are so funny

>>59004106
>GNU, the "free" software full of restrictions thanks to shitty licensing
>libertarian
no

>>59005838
Everybody knows that Mac users are SWJ leftist faggots.

>>59020108
*some Mac users

>>59004128
This is where the thread should have ended

>>59017703
no you have been abused
sue your pc manufaturors

>>59004128
/thread

>>59004106
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_intellectual_property


Look at Anarcho-capitalist views on this wiki page. Not all rightists agree intellectual property.

>>59020134
>*some Mac users
And almost all Windows users.
Nine out of ten people use Windows. The majority are SJW Leftist Faggots.

>>59004106
>Betteridge's law of headlines
> >

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>americans calling socialists liberals
every fucking time

>>59005916
It's called anarchism.

Read a book, Americuck.

>>59024318
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

>>59006017
I'm in favor of good people having freedom, and evil people not having it. What does that make me?

>>59024333
Cool digits bro

>>59024365
A hypocrite

>>59024395
Liberals, everyone.

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>>59009536

>>59024333
sphynx pls go

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>>59009536
>evolutionary psychology

>>59004128
Couldn't you say this about any day?

>>59009573
He probably didn't though

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>>59024566
care to explain your rationale for dismissing an entire field of psychology?

>>59025560
It can be used to justify just about anything, including excessive female promiscuity (Sex at Dawn is a fantastic example of this bullshit.)

>>59025590
and?
by that same reasoning physics can be used to explain just about anything and therefore should be scoffed at

>>59025239
>He probably didn't though
Of course not. He had people to do that for him.
The elimination of Jews and other undesirables (including gays, Romani, communists, ugly people and those with genetic defects) was a Nazi Party policy adopted at a party meeting (which Hitler chaired) in the early '40s.
It is on record, you can look it up. Caution; it is in German.

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>>59004106
left/right are economic controls, which I guess you could probably liken to licensing or other factors of a given platform which influence how you do business related to it
libertarian/authoritarian are social controls, which you could maybe liken to development-related restrictions, such as the ability to use whatever software you wish, or modify the OS as you see fit
so given these considerations,
>Microsoft: Authoritarian right
their proprietary licensing means you aren't free modify the system as you see fit (at least not easily), but they don't give a shit about what you develop for it
in addition to the lack of freedom regarding the core operating system, they also do interfere with your personal usage experience in various ways you could say are characteristic of the authoritarian spectrum
>Apple: Authoritarian left
same proprietary licensing bullshit like Microsoft that makes modifying the operating system difficult, but unlike Microsoft they also exhibit limited control over their software base through the use of an app store on their devices, in some cases the only way to get software thus allowing apple to control what you develop for it and also how you can profit from it
>GNU: Centre(ish)-left
you're free to modify your operating system as you please and develop whatever you want for it, skewing it further to the libertarian end
however it better have a GPL license and have no contact with non-GPL software whatsoever otherwise they'll disown you, meaning those on FSF-approved distros obviously lack freedom to run *anything* they want
>BSD (and most Linux): Libertarian right
you're free to modify your operating system as you please and develop whatever you want for it, regardless of the licensing or nature of the program, you can also generally use whatever you'd like out of BSD-licensed software in proprietary software which you can profit from however you want, there are no economic or social regulations whatsoever