/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Hopefully this thread won't die.

>>58999797
Chill stream.

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>>58999881
Pretty good right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRw339i17yw

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Redpill me on the ATH50x /g/

Does this thread seriously need to be in the catalog at all times? Surely there are hundreds of these in the archive. How many times can you ask about the same 50 headphones. jesus christ.

>>58999978
I don't like how they distort the bass. The flat sound of the M40x sound better imo.

I have a list I have to choose from. They're all for under 12$

JVC HA-s600, s360, s300
Polo HD Monster Beats
Genesis H44
Sony MDR Xd-100
Hugo Boss
Watson KH9604
IT HS2550
Scott Prince HFX580
Hama HS-10 Woodland
Prestigio headphones
Modecom MC400 fruity orange
Hama uRage Vibra
Audiance A2 Premium
Sennheiser HD201
Canyon CNR-HP02N
AKG K518 DJ
TDK MP100 White
LifeChat LX-1000
Philips shl 3060
Sogt ST-1035
philips sbc 3145 stereo

>>59000048
>Hugo Boss
>under 12$

doubt.jpg

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>>59000080
They're pretty used, also no sponges, so that explains it. They're being sold for 9.38$

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>>58999989
Those digits, almost

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Does Shure have different build quality for different markets?

I found se215 cheap on an Internet auction, but they ship "from abroad".

Assuming they are genuine (the guy wouldn't break the law this obviously), it might be the same thing with cheap Dualshocks - Sony has factories in China for the Asian market that cut corners and the controllers made there are subpar.

So does Shure do something similar or is the lower price simply a result of cutting out the middleman?

Pic is the auction photo, looks legit?

>>59000356
>Assuming they are genuine

>>58999999

>>59000370

If they are a knockoff, it's actually less of a problem for me, I complain and get my money back no problem.

If they are a crappier version of genuine Shure, then I'm shit out of luck.

I need new ear pads for my AKG K553. 110mm diameter.
Suggestions?

hey guys general question here
can headphone jacks get damaged if i put them in a very old port?
i have an old nokia lumia 800 phone that's had countless headphones plugged in it and i think the port's pretty bashed up
so if i use a new pair of headphones and plug them in could they get ruined by the port?

>>58999797
Senheisers hd 598 always

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How can I improve my desktop audio setup?

has anybody Groupon to buy headphone? see this and I'm interest. The down side to Groupon is it take them 2 - 3 week to ship

https://www.groupon.com/deals/gs-beyerdynamic-dt-990-pro-250-professional-acoustically-open-headphones

I've got HD600s at home.

Want something that doesn't sound like complete shit when out, but I'm not trying to claim true fidelity when I'm listening walking past light traffic and on a train.
Ear buds, not cans.

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>>59000048
Recommendations, /g/?

>>59000927
+1

>>59001029
fulla2.

>>59000859
pls answer
i was thinking of tascam th-02s

>>59001266
Whom is this bitch? He has been shilling for 3 threats now....

>>59001029
If you like your phones, the next ting to tackle would be those speakers.

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http://seanolive.blogspot.com/2017/02/twirt-337-predicting-headphone-sound_17.html

CONSUMER WHORES BTFO

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ASIO or WASAPI Event?

>>59001394
Got any recommendations for speakers?

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>>58999797
I've had this on for 10 hours. Had it one while sleeping :)

>>59002047
>Listening to streamed shit, being fed to you by YouTube

>>59002115
Oh, ur superior in taste and morals... Wow! Why don't you come over and fondle my balls?

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>>59002047
·>I am as old as the universe, just stuck in this form for 19 years now
So this is the kind of retards that listen to streaming lofi hip hop from youtube

>>59002167
Another superior presence. You're invited too :)

>>59002047
thanks for posting the title anon, pretty chill stuff

Does anyone knows any good ~50$ earphones?
Maybe some chink shit.

>>59002261
e10

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>>58999797
Best IEM's I've ever tried. Just don't the the bass boost attachment.

>>59002273
is it just me or is something missing?
if not, why are you sticking metal cylinders in your ears

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for us Amerifugs, pic related is on sale for $55 @ newegg today (Saturday, Feb 18). They go on sale all the time, but $55 is the cheapest they typically go.

>>59002273
>don't use the bass boost nozzle

fuck me

>>59002289
They come with multiple rubber tips to use. This was just a random picture that showed off it's main feature if anything.

>>59002145
Suck a duck faggot, and keep listening to your Top 40 hits and "Recommended for You" spoon-fed garbage

>>59002321
>suck a dick
Make me, worm!

>>59002321
Stop acting as if your taste in music means anything.

>>59002339
I'll put my hand on your head and push you down while I play FLACs of very entry level mainstream non-radio music, to wean you off. Maybe something female vocals so you can feel pretty while you succumb to me.

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>>59002366

JBL by Harman Kardon T300A

are these worth it for 35.50$? or the model is too old?

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>>59002047
Dude, this is not very good... hate to break it to you. Sometimes ignorance is bliss, tho. So, enjoy it.

>>59002395
Hello superior wan. Wanna fondle my balls?

>>59000048
That's a decent list of 20 so headsets, is there anything good in that pile, /g/?

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>>59002378

>musical taste arguments
Just take this pretentious garbage to /mu/

>>59002292
Holy fuck, here in europistan they cost €130 (roughly $140).

I got me some Philips Fidelio x2's and they are pretty sweet.

I don't see myself buying another pair of headphones till these die eventually.

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>>59002427

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>>59002466

>>59001500
>Breaking news! Sound quality is not correlated to price. More at 8pm.

Everyone knows that the point of diminishing return for audio equipment is located between $100 and $300. Usually the price is driven by

>engineering and overall build quality
All the process, from the initial idea to the final product, has huge costs, with materials and manufacturing processes having often (although not always) an impact on the final price. The more refined the product, the higher the production cost, thus (but not necessarily) the higher the MSRP.
>market share
However if a company is big enough it can reduce the margin of profit on the single item because it can afford to increase the industrial risk; this is largely due to the expected sale figures. This is the fundament of the economies of scale.
>branding and marketing
It's also important to remember that the more famous and important a brand is, the higher the price of its products; also, market segmentation and targeting play a huge role in the final pricing: audiophools love to drink snake oil, and the more they spend, the happier they are because in their minds the equation price-equals-quality is always true; people who think about audio gear as fashion items also pay a premium for their fancier looking headphones; professional equipment tend to be reasonably expensive; consumer-oriented products must be dirt cheap, and so on.

>>59001500
Now I have more empirical studies in my arsenal to quote when arguing on the internet. Genuinely interesting and hilarious though.

>>59002047
youtube theme?

>>59002766
>Sound quality is not correlated to price.
>the point of diminishing return for audio equipment is located between $100 and $300
Seems a bit contradictory.

>>58999797
Lol you took it from the chillcow lofi stream

Continue from >>59002766

All this find many examples, for instance in the sub-$100 range:

>Status Audio CB-1
>oriented to entry level audio enthusiasts
>built like cheap knockoffs, with a very praised sound output, with a reasonable price, although not dirt cheap
The company is small, and can't leverage on the scale of production, but with good marketing can still sell something that overall isn't worth much production-wise at a price similar to better built and similar sounding headphones.

>Philips SHP9500
>oriented to the broad market that looks for a product that feels premium
>very refined build quality and design, with good sound, at a sub-$100 price point
The company is big and famous, can afford to branch out in this market segment thanks to the wide internal organization and the wide market they can reach, lowering the final price to appeal the average consumer with a product that looks, sounds, and feel good, but doesn't cost too much.

>Sony MDR7506
>marketed towards professionals, that need a workhorse for their industry
>built like a tank, without caring to the look and the design, with the appropriate performance output, with a high markup (given the product) but with an overall price that a professional can afford easily
The company is big and famous, the product is now industry standard because its excellent engineering and robustness; it doesn't have to appeal the average joe, so it can afford to spare on the design, and cut corners for production purposes, while still maintaining its strenght, both in terms of audio and build quality; the markup is rather high, given what is probably a very low production cost, and the economy of scale, but the final price is still reasonable.

>>59002836
Either you haven't read the full post, or you lack the basic reading comprehension skills.

>>59002934
I did read the full post.
How can diminishing returns exist if there is no correlation between sound quality and price?
Are you talking about diminishing returns in other fields than sound quality?

>>59002766
>Sound quality is not correlated to price
That's not what it says, it indicates a weak negative correlation.

>>59002815
>empirical
It's not. It's a theoretical model.

>>59002836
>Seems a bit contradictory.
The diminishing returns aspect has nothing to do with sound quality.

>>58999797
To the guy who helped me add bass to my hd600's using this last week

>Preamp: -7 dB
>Filter: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 7 dB Q 0.7
>Filter: ON PK Fc 170 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 0.5

If you're out there, thank you. These headphones were incredible but now they're fucking perfection.

>>59003023
Here right now. Happy to help. Parametric equalizer is pretty wonderful thing if you know how to use it.

>>59002967
>Are you talking about diminishing returns in other fields than sound quality?
In short, yes. You can buy a pair of Xiaomi Piston 3 and be basically 75% of the way to the "perfect" audio, and they cost like 15 bucks. I explained what drives the price. Once you take into account every factor you find that there actually is a point of diminishing return in the above mentioned bracket.

>>59002997
>That's not what it says, it indicates a weak negative correlation.
The sample isn't very big in the first place, and the correlation is really weak. For all intents and purposes it's safe to assume that there isn't statistical correlation.

I'd be curious to see what happens when you limit the price to $500 and increase the sample.

>>59003035
Yeah, I used apo in the past to reduce the piercing treble on my akg 712's and it worked great. I deleted my EQ after I bought the 600's because they're just perfection to me, besides the fact that the bass was a tiny bit under what I wanted. Thanks again.

>>59002292
Is it worth it to get SH9500's if I need closed back but they're on sale?

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Hey /hpg/ I've been troubleshooting my Modi for 2 weeks now and I just can't get
it to connect properly to my pc, even with a USB Controller and a powered hub.
It still works with other computers, including an extra shitty windows tablet. If I
sold it how much do you think I could get for it? And what's a good replacement
in a similar price bracket? I was looking at the ODAC and the Modi 2.

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>>59002766
>Everyone knows that the point of diminishing return for audio equipment is located between $100 and $300.

lol, this is a ridiculous statement - so sweeping and over-generalized.

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>>59003136
Only you can decide that.

They sound terrific (neutral sound signature), are built pretty well, and are very very comfortable. I feel like you can't go wrong at that sale-price. However, they have almost ZERO isolation. You will hear everything around you. Everyone around you will hear what you are listening to.

>>59002997
>That's not what it says, it indicates a weak negative correlation.

It might have been what it said though, if the sound quality doesn't improve after a certain point and the prices go up, you'll see something akin to a negative correlation.

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A guy I know is selling his 1 year old Senns HD600 for $200 (USD). He bought HD800s. HD600 don't come with a box but otherwise they're in a perfect condition.

Worth the buy?

>>59003333
>Worth the buy?
I'll let you be the judge.

>>59003333

Quads say yes.

>>59003333
As long as the pads aren't complete pancakes then it's a good deal. The real pads cost around £40 to replace, I haven't had to replace min yet but when I do I'll be looking at fake ones. Hopefully some of them are good enough.

>>59003348
well, I'm asking ppl more knowledgeable than me.

>>59003353
>>59003399
Pads are perfect. I don't think he used them much. Wehn I was at his place, I always saw him with a pair of HiFiman's on.

HD600/650s have been on my wishlist for ages but couldn't afford them. He had both pairs and I tried them last year and HD600 sounded better to me anyway (better midrange).

Anyway, I feel like finally buying a pair.

What's your favorite pair of sub-30 dollar in ears?

>>59003281
>You will hear everything around you. Everyone around you will hear what you are listening to.
Fuck, why do manufacturers do that
What about tascam TH02? Thoughts on them? I'm basically looking for a budget closed over ear that's comfortable and stylish enough to wear at the library

>>59003441
Yeah I've tried both and the 600's have a better sound overall, they're the best headphones I've ever tried. Buy them mayne.

>>59003457
kz ed9

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>>59002480
>>59002466
Now kiss

>>59003221
>lol, this is a ridiculous statement - so sweeping and over-generalized.
So where do you think the point of diminishing return is?

>>59003568
Not him but my guess would be around the £500 mark, as a guess.

>>59003588
What do you find between $300 and $600? Remember we're talking about diminishing returns, the point at which the increment in price is higher than the increment in overall quality.

>>59003620
hd600 and an e10k amp. No amp imo actually sounds better with these headphones so there's no point in spending more, unless you want more features etc. What headphones are better than hd600? admittedly I haven't tried more expensive ones but it's not like there's a headphone that everyone agrees is better. Hd800's have their own problems for example. Are stax better? I have no idea but I also don't want to strap two fridges to my face.

>>59001069
budget?

>>59001069
m8 hd600's are my choice at home and the KZ ED9's are the best IEMS I've ever tried. They're cheap as fuck too so you can't lose. Just don't use the 'bass boost nozzle'

you gonna tell me which sub-200EUR bluetooth headphones to get?

or you gonna be a little bitch and refer to some faggy ass pasta?

>>59003712
Here's the point though: how much the audio and build quality increase from the previous quality headphone?

For $150 you can buy a pair of HD558.
For $300 you can buy a pair of HD600

For double the price you're already not getting twice the sum of sound and build quality, so strictly speaking we're already past the point of diminishing return. When you go from $300 to $600 there is literally no way to have twice the build-plus-sound quality.

>>59003907
>HD558.
Meant HD598

>>59003907
When the sound is that good, which the hd600's are, then it's worth twice the money at this point if you care enough imo. Those 598's are fairly new I take it? I don't know anything about them but I'd be surprised if they're even close to the 600's. It all comes down to what you want. I wouldn't want a slight improvement on my 600's for £500 instead of £230 for my 600's for example.

How good are Behringer HPS3000s? They're on sale for $20 off amazon. Just need something cheap to play games with.

>>59003333
See sales for NEW HD600.

$200 for used is a bit too much.

>>59003712
>hd600 and an e10k amp

Why buy underpowered shit?

https://www.audiobot9000.com/fiio/a/e10k

When you could get nifty Schiit?

https://www.audiobot9000.com/schiit/a/fulla-2

>>59004296
why buy any of that shit when modern onboard solutions can drive an hd600 fine

>>59004317
No, they can't.

I have a board with "Crystal Sound 2", complete with built in amp.

It can't even handle my HD598. Sure, it's better than unamped, but very warm (colored), decreasing volume considerably on the higher end. Doesn't hold a candle to my Magni 2.

Also, take a look at the datasheet for the ALC887... specifies what registers to write to for enabling amp, but doesn't list any meaningful specifications for the amp. That should be worrying enough.

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Last night, I've listened to HD598, HD600, HD650, HD800, Fostex TH900 and HE-6 last evening at a local audiophile meetup. I've never gone to those things before but wanted to hear all these cans in person. It was basically a bunch of guys with expensive gear at one person's (huge) house.

While all of these cans sounded amazing, it was hard for me to tell which of them sounded the best. All of them sounded better than my current ATH-M50x and DT770 (I only own these headphones right now) but it was hard to me to pick which of them was absolutely the best. Depending on what type of music was being player, I slightly preferred one or the other. All of them reproduced the sound great but there were minor/major differences in soundstage, bass, mids and highs. If you have EQ, you can easily remedy a lot of that and make any of these cans sound how you like them. All of them were fairly comfortable.

HD598's are a really good deal and the best bang for the buck in my opinion. Unless you need closed cans, HD600's are probably the threshold for the point of diminishing returns. HE-6's weren't that impressive at all (to me anyway).

I'm 25. My hearing is still somewhat OK, I guess, but the older you get, less high freq you hear. When you cross 18, you start dropping few dB per year so make sure you add that to your equation when spending money.

>>59004358
if you don't know what you're talking about, don't bother posting.

>>59004257
>$200 for used is a bit too much.
Nigga, find me new HD600s for $200. Find me used ones that are in excellent condition. I'll wait.

>>59004296
Fulla 2 costs more than the e10k in the UK. We were talking price/performance and the e10k is good enough for them. The fulla 2 is better in terms of power and features but the 600's don't need that extra power at all. Not having a 3.5mm jack is also kinda shit too.

>>59004296
>When you could get nifty Schiit?
Fuck off, Schit shill. E10K is better than Fulla2.

>>59004416
>needing a 3.5mm socket
time to stop buying crappy headphones

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>>59003568
It depends on the component and the rest of the system it's being integrated into.

$300 doesn't even buy an entry level integrated amp like pic related.

>>59004438
integrated amps are garbage

>>59004399

I have had the pleasure of trying majority of the combinations among a bunch of sources ("crystal sound 2" HDA onboard sound with and without amp, somebody else's different board with amp, xfi titanium, modi2, fulla2, bunch of laptops) and amps (fiio k5, magni2, fulla2) with a bunch of headphones (HD380, HD598, friend's HD598se, HD600... yeah, sadly only Sennheisers :X).

All of these headphones will sound bland/mulled without an amp, and will sound colored with the motherboards that have builtin "headphone amp" functionality.

Plug in an external amp, and it's bliss.

But you're right, ultimately, if you're happy with what you have, that's all that matters *grin*.

>>59004423
What's better about it?

Objectively, please.

>>59004397
>another clueless blogposter who thinks his opinion matters and isn't shy of spreading misinformation
just what this general needed

>>59004530
>his opinion doesn't matter because I say so

>>59004429
I have a had600 which comes with an adapter. The problem is that I have a custom 650 cable and the end doesn't fit into the adapter. On top of that It's nice to plug in random iems for testing etc. No 3.5mm= trash.

>>59004416
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/fiio/e10k

vs

https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/schiit/fulla-2

Both fall short of 115, but the fulla2 does better.

What worries me there is that, due to lack of specs for e10k output at higher impedance, the calculation is approximated from the spec at 32Ω. It's likely that it's far off (read: actually lower and brutally insufficient).

So, among the two, I'd no doubt recommend the fulla2.

>>59004569
>not having an adapter

>>59004572
>fulla2 does better
fuck off shill

>>59004576
I just said I have an adapter but my custom god mode cable doesn't fit in it you mong.
Anyway the point was about diminishing returns and the e10k is cheaper than the fulla 2 in the UK.

>>59004601
your custom god mode cable is fucking garbage if it's terminated to 3.5mm

>>59004572
The o2 doesn't even sound different than the e10k when it comes to the hd600's. The fulla 2 WILL not sound better than the e10k. It's extra features are pointless in regards of sound quality with those headphones.

>>59004610
lmao explain. This will be good.

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>tfw you love headphone tech and you're a music enthusiast but you're too poor to buy a nice pair.
What do you guys do for a living to be able to afford $300+ headphones ? I'm a full-time college student, I can't afford that shit

>>59004590

Try nwavguy's guide. Just "the easy way" section there should do it.

https://nwavguy.blogspot.ie/2011/09/more-power.html?m=1

Now, you can do the math yourself, if that helps. You'll end up with the same numbers audiobot9000 gave you anyway.

e10k falls short, and that's despite stretching the max power at 32Ω to 300Ω. Like, no fucking way.

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>>58999797
Best budget headphones coming through.

>>59004645
quit shilling.

>>58999797
What is the best analytical iems with great clarity I can get for $300?

>>59004645
random trivia: O2 was designed by nwavguy. A guide he wrote is quoted at >>59004645

>>59004676
Xiaomi Piston 3.

Who the fuck'd spend more than that on IEMs...

>>58999797
What kind of headphones is he/she wearing in OP's pic related?

>>59004636
Most people here with good stuff aren't students, that's why.

>>59004703
Probably not very good.

Looks like solitary studying with closed back headphones. Somebody should enlighten her on open back.

Can anyone compare the M40x to AD900X?

>>59004676
The best Etymotic Research that fits your budget.

>>59004676
Ety ER-4S.

>>59004735
hmm? What's so good about open backs? I'm newbie sorry, thought closed was better for sound isolation when you don't want to hear your environment

>>59004832
>I'm newbie sorry, thought closed was better for sound isolation when you don't want to hear your environment

Or when you don't want your environment to hear your headphones. That is all that's good about closed. Everything else is a compromise so that you can have the isolation.

>>59004676
>iems
>clarity

>>59004855
They are potentially the best at it as vague as clarity is. Highest fidelity personal listening devices.

>>59004693
I spent 20 years buying cheap earphones like that and spending just $100 on a decent pair there is already a world's difference in sound quality. Just because your ears are shit and can't hear the difference between cheap and expensive iems doesn't mean everyone else is the same.

>>59002292
I've seen it go down to $45 Open Box.

>>59004397
>I'm 25. My hearing is still somewhat OK, I guess, but the older you get, less high freq you hear. When you cross 18, you start dropping few dB per year so make sure you add that to your equation when spending money.
Regardless of your age the response beyond 16 KHz is near useless. The easily audible coloration and critical audio band lie in lower frequencies than what aging hearing limits. Listening to coloration is a skill that you can train, not something people inherently have. Your age is almost pointless.

>>59004886
>Just because your ears are shit and can't hear the difference
Everyone can hear the difference assuming there is one. The aforementioned ER-4S and Pistons sound world apart and unless you are clinically deaf and simply can't hear, you will notice the rather massive difference.
>between cheap and expensive iems
That's not what dictates the sound quality. Most in-ears, expensive or not, are still the same recipe with abundance of bass and wonky treble response.

>>59003213
so much wasted space

>>59003457
JVC HAFX101 if I'm feeling like being a nigger.
JVCHAFX40 if I want DT990 Treble in an IEM.
Vsonic GR02 if I want all the tips in the world withoutbit sounding like shit.
Tennmak Pro for the best performance around imo.
Honorable mention of anything from KZ.

>>59004693
Sure, but if I had $300 to spend, I'd get myself, say, some comfortable HD600, not some IEMs.

IEMs I keep just for fucking throwing around.

>>59004886
>>59005088
.

>>59004963
If price doesn't dictate sound quality then what does? Are you saying I can buy a pair of $30 iems that will just as good as a $300 pair?

>>58999797
Does the fulla 2 go louder than the e10k's full gain?

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Redpill me on m20x as a budget alternative for someone who's never owned a pair of nice sounding headphones.

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Is there anywhere to buy replace pads for denon AH-D600?

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Which ones are the best in this list, /g/?

JVC HA-s600, s360, s300
Polo HD Monster Beats
Genesis H44
Sony MDR Xd-100
Watson KH9604

IT HS2550
Scott Prince HFX580
Hama HS-10 Woodland
Prestigio headphones
Modecom MC400 fruity orange

Hama uRage Vibra
Audiance A2 Premium
Sennheiser HD201
Canyon CNR-HP02N
AKG K518 DJ

TDK MP100 White
LifeChat LX-1000
Philips shl 3060
Sogt ST-1035
philips sbc 3145 stereo

>>59005232
I want to get these for work.
At home I have DT-770s.
Is the noise isolation good on the m20x?

>>59005113
The performance does and that is very loosely if not at all correlated with price. See this post earlier: >>59001500

That study found negative correlation with sound quality as products increased in price.

>"The highest scoring headphone was a $100 model that we equalized to hit the Harman target response, which our research has shown to be preferred by the majority of listeners."

You could do that equalization with many in-ears including cheaper models than the one they tested.

>Are you saying I can buy a pair of $30 iems that will just as good as a $300 pair?
Yes. Could be better or could be worse. It's possible but depends on your preferences and models in question.

>>59005148
Yes.

>>59005310
>Is the noise isolation good on the m20x?
Poster you've quoted here so not much knowledge but I've watched some reviews and they said the isolation is good throughout the whole line (M20x > M50x)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSfT0oGWTnw&ab_channel=HifiHeaven

KZ ATE or Piston 3?

>>59005310
>>59005397
>M20x
Poor isolation. These headphones don't have active noise cancelling, and the passive isolation provided by the ear cups is average. They provide no isolation in the bass region and only start to kick in at around 300Hz. The total amount of isolation provided in the mid-range is about 10dB which is below average. In the treble range, the overall amount of isolation is about 27dB which is decent.
http://uk.rtings.com/headphones/graph#311/349

>M50x
Poor isolation, but expected since these are not noise cancelling headphones. However, the passive isolation provided by the ear cups is quite good. It provides a maximum of 20dB of isolation in the mid range and 40dB of isolation in the treble range.
http://uk.rtings.com/headphones/graph#295/349

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>Budget
i want one under 150, but after returning 3 headphones I might be persuaded to go 200
>Source
laptop. id like to avoid buying an amp, if possible
>Type of headphone
fullsize
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
5-8 hours comfy cloud bliss
>Past headphones

returned hd598cs (closed soundstage garbage), am returning ath-ad900x I like the wing design but these things just arent satisfying. pinpoint sound imaging though and i'd like that in any other pair

>Budget
200$ max
>Location
EU
>Source
PC and TV for video games
>Type of headphone
Open headphones
>Sound signature
Bright, biggest soundstage possible
>Past headphones
Superlux HD668B

DT-880 and K 701/702 caught my attention, might as well get FiiO E10k since my soundcard is not the best one.

>>59005430
piston 3 because the kz ate is fucking terrible.

>>59005326
Yeah. I am going to call bulls hit on that. Like I said I spent 20 years buying cheap iems and just recently have I gotten into the more expensive ones and there is already a worlds difference in sound quality. And you're going to tell me I can get the same effect just by using an equalizer? Bullshit.

Finally got Equalizer APO to work, was the realtek driver that was keeping me from ticking off/on "Enhancements" in the audio tab.

Anyway.

Do you guys have a go to set of songs to equalize to?
Or just general music you listen to frequently?

>>59005742
>And you're going to tell me I can get the same effect just by using an equalizer? Bullshit.
Any reason why you think that would be bullshit? Because you most definitely can mimic the response of other headphones or in-ears with a mere equalizer.

>>59005760
>Do you guys have a go to set of songs to equalize to?
Music is a poor reference so don't do that. Use sine sweeps and pink noise for the EQ.

>>59005790
I can use an equalizer to tweak the sound frequency to a degree but is it going to effect sound stage, detail, instrument separation, clarity, 3d imaging, instrument reproduction? Or turn bass so it's more punchy instead of boomy? Or turn highs so it's sounds sparkly instead of piercing?

>>59005848
>is it going to effect sound stage, detail, instrument separation, clarity, 3d imaging, instrument reproduction?
Of course it will as these are almost entirely dictated by the frequency response in (mostly)minimum phase devices like headphones and in-ears.
>Or turn bass so it's more punchy instead of boomy?
>Or turn highs so it's sounds sparkly instead of piercing?
That depends on how you use the EQ. Those are literally descriptions of the response.

>>59005790
Yeah I guess that would be a good way to do it. I'll try it out.

>>59005897
Again bullshit. I don't buy it for one minute that I can completely change everything about an item and turn a $10 earphone into a $1000 earphone. You're not going to fool me into thinking you can completely change the sound signature of an iem. If that was the case you'd never have to buy another pair of your life ever again. You can tweak it to copy any iems sound signature no matter how expensive.

>>59005848
EQ can do wonders but it can't turn your headphones into another pair. We would all have hd800/stax EQ on 10$ headphones if that was the case.

>>59005994
Well that's exactly what it seems like he was trying to get at.

>>59005148

Idk. The fulla2 gain is 1.7 (4.6dB). I couldn't find the values for fiio e10k gain, but I know it has a high/low switch.

If loudness is what you're worried about, fulla2 is plenty loud: It gets painful at half of its (thankfully huge) knob.

>>59005553

EU and budget in $? -_-

I'd go with HD598se, which I've seen as low as 100€ in amazon sales. Schiit fulla2 usb amp+dac pairs well with these, but might throw you out of budget. You could also get the amp later, so you get a chance to see the difference with and without.

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>>59005992
>>59005994
>>59006025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_5tj9yPdk

Watch from 26:32 to 28:40.

>>59005553

The HD598/HD598se are well regarded, cheap and are well known to have a large soundstage.

Careful, HD598cs are closed and very different headphones altogether.

>>59006125
Just stop. You're not going to trick me.

>>59005992
>Again bullshit
Again why?
>I don't buy it for one minute that I can completely change everything about an item
I never said you can and you obviously can't. Equalization is not some arcane arts but it can alter the frequency response very freely and since that response basically all what we hear in a pair of headphones, you can do rather extreme adjustments with it provided that the pair being equalized isn't horrible.
>and turn a $10 earphone into a $1000 earphone.
Are you talking about prices or sound here? Ignore the price and understand it really doesn't correlate with sound quality or signature of any type. I guarantee you can get an in-ear for 10 bucks that will be good enough to be equalized for most other kinds of responses. It will have sufficient bandwidth and linearity to do that.
>You're not going to fool me into thinking you can completely change the sound signature of an iem
You can. Question here is whether you have the understanding on what needs to be changed to do that.
>If that was the case you'd never have to buy another pair of your life ever again
Really? I can think of multiple reasons why I'd want to pay for something better even if I know that I can make a cheap Aliexpress in ear sound amazing with nothing but some free software installed on my computer. These things don't last forever either.

>>59006237
>trick
What's the trick?

>>59006025
Yeah I know, I was agreeing with him and arguing against the other guy if anything..

>>59004660
Anon no, they're impossible to get in yuro land =(

>>59006272
That according to your logic I can buy a pair of dollar store ear buds and turn them into a seinnheiser oracle just by fucking with the equalizer.

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>print some stuff out on paper and set it on the table
>listen to music, leave my headphone on top of it and go to sleep
>wake up and one earpad is all wrinkly and inelastic with a dried up aspect
>the paper is all smudged up in round patterns

What the FUCK did ink do to my headphones???

>>59006272
>I don't buy it for one minute that I can completely change everything about an item
>You- I never said you can and you obviously can't

>You're not going to fool me into thinking you can completely change the sound signature of an iem
>You - You can

So which is it? You can or can't? Because now you're also being completely contradictory

>>59006338
stop feeding the troll, dumbass.

>>59006442
I think it's some idiot who believes what he is saying.

>>59006338
Do I have to keep repeating myself? No you can't. Reason: ear buds lack bandwidth and are often extremely poor with response linearity. They are horrible devices in terms of fidelity in a way that an equalizer can't touch on.

It's very different with in-ears that seal the ear canal entrance and do not suffer from the same fundamental issues by design.

I'm not sure what a Sennheiser Oracle is but maybe you could create something better than those with the help of an equalizer?

>>59006435
Read what I wrote again.
>you can do rather extreme adjustments with it provided that the pair being equalized isn't horrible.
Some headphones simply are horrible(such as ear buds) beyond what can be helped or altered with an equalizer.

Go watch the video someone linked earlier or educate yourself with the nice papers we have in the Wiki for learning purposes. Better yet, ask questions here without trying to argue against things you do not really seem to grasp.

>>59006515
See
>>59006435
Just so you know I automatically dismiss everything you say.

>>58999797
>Budget
150 euro
>Location
Europe
>Source
Phone/computer/keyboard
>Type of headphone
Full-sized portable
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Good, I guess
>Sound signature
Idk neutral
>Past headphones
Cheap shit

>>59006688
Sennheiser HD380 Pro or HD598cs.

>>59006688
m40x

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Can someone explain in english what a "good" amp does to the sound of headphones other than making it able to go louder?

I see a lot of audiofags say an amp can make the headphone sound quality improve dramatically but there's never an explanation how or why.

Are they just turning up the volume or what

>>59006834
All a good amplifier _should_ do is make it go louder without changing the sound from the source. Anything more is bullshit.

>>59006834
>audiofags
That's your problem right there.

Don't EVER listen to audiophools or take into consideration their opinion on anything: they often ignore basic physics principles.

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>>59005300
Is anyone going to rate these from best to worst?

>>59006559
Still didn't read my posts? I'll try once more while making it very easy for you, anon, to understand what I wrote. I am very literal with my posts. I mean nothing more than I say and I treat others the same way.

In >>59005790 I say:
>you most definitely can mimic the response of other headphones or in-ears with a mere equalizer.
>can mimic

Then when questioned, I tell in >>59005897 that using an equalizer to alter the frequency response will alter all of the different descriptions of sound anon listed and why so.

Suddenly >>59005992 thinks I said you can "completely change everything about an item"(assuming he meant IEM) which is simply wrong and not what I said earlier. You can't "completely" change "everything", obviously.

To clarify on this and to make it perfectly clear I continue in >>59006272
> Equalization is not some arcane arts but it can alter the frequency response very freely and since that response [is] basically all what we hear in a pair of headphones, you can do rather extreme adjustments with it provided that the pair being equalized isn't horrible.
>can do
>can alter
>provided that the pair being equalized isn't horrible.

Yet despite that the next reply >>59006338 continues...
>according to your logic I can buy a pair of dollar store ear buds and turn them into a seinnheiser oracle just by fucking with the equalizer.
And you... >>59006435
>So which is it? You can or can't? Because now you're also being completely contradictory

I continue to clarify it >>59006515 and telling _why_ the ear buds that suddenly got mentioned specifically aren't a good candidate for EQ. Despite that you still seem to have a problem. At what point did I contradict myself again and how?

>>59006834
>other than making it able to go louder?
A good amp does nothing else. It increases signal amplitude with minimal effect on anything else. Aside of sound quality features and construction can define a good amplifier, too.

>>59005232
>>59005310
The sound quality of the M20x is subpar to that of the M30x. Considering the fact that you can find the M30x for the same price of the M20's on amazon, you are better of buying the M30x.

>>59006997
>At what point did I contradict myself again and how?
See
>>59006435
Just so you know that's all I read was the little part. I already said I dismiss everything you say.

>>59007017
M20x cost $45 on Amazon (shipping included). M30x cost $58.50 (shipping included).

>>59007017
with that logic we could say the m30s are subpar to the m40s, which in turn will be subpar to the m50s (arguably)

How big of difference are we talking about between the m20s and m30s ? Are they really worth the extra $ ?

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>>59007101
I'm in Canada, Amazon is still the cheapest place where I can get m20x/m30x ?

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>>59007133
How the fuck should I know? I'm not Canadian. Doesn't your country have some price comparison website?

>>59006714
>>59006817
Thanks.

>>59007083
>I already said I dismiss everything you say.
Fair enough. It's probably the best for you to not discuss things with other people online. Refrain from giving audio advice of the more technical side, too. I hope you read that and I hope my posts helped at least some person.

Good night.

I just want good headphones that I can wear laying on my side on a pillow. So far, I was thinking the Urbanite or solo 2's. any opinions?

Are the dt 880s 600ohm comparable to the hd 600s?

>>59007212
Okay, that's nice. Bye bye crazy person who thinks you can turn $1 iems into $5000 iems.

>>59006834
Besides the extra volume (called gain, and usually pretty low. Example: fulla2 is +4.6dB), what headphone amps do is provide power.

Electricity's voltage and current. The audio's voltage, and the headphones' driver draws current when fed voltage. But as with everything AC, it's never that easy. Current draw doesn't perfectly follow voltage.

The higher the volume, the higher the power requirements. You'd ideally want 115dB, or at least 110dB. The higher the impedance of the phones, the harder it is to provide them power. Furthermore, dB per mW of power depend on each headphone, too.

To understand the basics of the math, see "the easy way" in: https://nwavguy.blogspot.ie/2011/09/more-power.html?m=1

For easy automated calculations, check https://www.audiobot9000.com/

Most sources can't provide enough current, even for a low volume.

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I just got my rock zircon earbuds today. Any tips on making them last a year? Obviously not treat them like shit...

>>59007224
>dt 880s 600ohm

There was this discussion some eons ago, might be of use:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/527354/hd-600-vs-dt-880-600ohm-version

I'd personally go with the HD600, as the DT880 seem colored (bright + bass extension). If what you want is colored, there's HD650 to compare with. I'm more into neutral.

>>59007222
>Certified bait.

>>59007557
>nobass
>neutral

>>59007632
no
fuck off with your meme responses

>>58999978
M40x better in basically every way.

>>59000418
http://imgur.com/a/WC2yI
seems that hm5 work...

>>59007636
nobass? You mean not favoring bass.

HD600 has good bass, but if your enjoyment of music is bass-centric, perhaps you'd do better with a pair of Beats?

>>59000859
I mean unless if there's something in the port to somehow scratch the jack I guess but I think you'd further damage the port rather than the reverse.

>>59003023
Interestingly this doesn't change the tonal balance much.
>>59003333
Get them new.
>buying used headphones
>>59004120
HD558 sounds like a HD600 with more lower midrange which makes it a bit muffled in comparison. HD600 also has more sub-bass but the difference is not really noticeable. The obsession with flat sub-bass is not really something that provides much audible benefit.
>>59004397
Auditioning headphones like this are dumb because it fucks with your brain, your brain gets accustomed to headphone X and then you try headphone Y and it sounds too muffled or too bright or some other shit.
>>59004676
ER4SR
>>59007224
If you prefer a brighter sound the DT880 is preferable. It's also more comfortable and has better durability. I prefer the HD600 overall sound signature but I think the DT880 treble response is better although it's bright.
>>59007636
You're still here?

Get a life, faggot.

>>59007792
There's nothing wrong with getting used headphones if they're taken good care of and almost half the price.

>>59007792
>Get them new.
>>buying used headphones
paying retail for headphones... kek'd.

headphones are the biggest fucking scam ever. they're literally $12 worth of components being sold for hundreds of dollars. HD600, while an amazing headphone, has $20 worth of parts in them yet they're super-expensive.

there's absolutely nothing wrong with buying used headphones. you can disinfect them in 20 min and you've just saved $250.

Is it a big deal if a pair of headphones doesn't fold ?
I'd be carrying mine in a backpack. Just wondering cause the one I want doesn't fold

>>59007888
What headphones are you looking at?

Would HD 650s and an O2 + ODAC br a good combo? Anything for the same price or less that could do a better job?

>>59007930
Audiotechnica m20x. The 30 is foldable from what I've understood but they cost 30$ more so I'm not sure if they're worth the extra money considering I'm on a budget

>>59008041
Not sure if they come with a carrying bag or anything but the MxxX series are pretty tanky so I wouldn't worry too much.

>>59008138
>but the MxxX series are pretty tanky so I wouldn't worry too much.
Alright thanks for the info!

>>59008166
no prob

>>59008040
I have that setup minus the ODAC and works exactly like I want it to. You'll be getting more than plenty of power, highest I ever turn it up to is 12 o clock and that's on really quiet recordings, otherwise it's at 10.

>>59008040
HD650 are colored plebphones for the riffraff, at the expense of fairness to the source. Get HD600 instead, which have good clarity.

O2+ODAC is nicely open hardware, but that's all that it has going. It's expensive as fuck for what it is. For an example, at the same range it is possible to buy the Schiit stack (modi2+magni2), or, considerably cheaper, a fulla2, which is still better than the O2+ODAC.

>>59008349
Clarity? You meant transparency.

HD600 are considered the benchmark for neutral phones, and among the best Sennheiser makes. To get any better, you'd need to spend many times as much (HD800s).

>>59008376
>You meant transparency.
That's not a term to use for describing headphones. It's a state which you either have completely or you don't. Audio codecs, DA-converters, amplifiers etc can achieve transparency. It means that they will not have any audible impact on the sound.

>>59008349
This schiitshill really needs to leave.

>>58999797
i've had mdr-v6's for years now, who has upgraded from them? what did you think of the mdr-v6's and the pair you upgraded to?

>>59008483
NwAvGuy, what are you doing here?

>HD600 poorfags think their marble garbage is better than the HD650
lol

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>really want the hd 600 pheasant egg edition
>can't justify spending 500 cad on it

WHEN'S THE NEXT SALE

If you're looking for iems under $100 just get the 1More Triple Drivers. You wont regret it.

>>59008528

Try some amazon pricetracking tool, such as camelcamelcamel.

>>59008521
>HD600 poorfags think their marble garbage is better than the HD650

HD600 and HD650 do cost pretty much the same these days.

>>59008541
Better than the xiaomi piston 3?

>>59008594
I haven't tried the Piston 3 but I also own the Xiaomi Hybrid (which are supposed to be superior to the pistons) and the 1More are definitely better.

>>59008618
>(which are supposed to be superior to the pistons)
they are the opposite of this

I'm not worried about noise so is there any reason at all to get closed headphones?

$200
United States
Laptop/Android Phone
I'd prefer closed, over ear
Warm sound, I guess.
I want to be comfy af.
What should I get? I'd like wireless, but I know that's a bad idea.

>>59008881
Also, isn't headphones more of a /mu/ thing?

>>59008899
music is a /mu/ thing, headphones are technology.

>>59008874
If bass is important to you, yes.

Which headphones are better overall, the Sennheiser HD 201 or the Audio-Technica ATH-M20x?

>>59009106
There are open basscannons out there, too, if you're into that.

Then again, if you're into that, you're better off with something like beats *grin*.

>>58999797
Know what you're gonna be using them for, figure out what kind of sound you hope to get out of them, budget(realistically), and figure out how to get the best deal.

>>59008874
Not really, unless you just want bass.

>>59009152
Depends on your preference...
>there is no objective better

How do you make a cable shorter ? The one on the headphones I bought is like 7 feet
Do you braid it or something?

>>59009961
buy a shorter aux cable...

Are these any good?

>Sony MDRZX770BT Bluetooth Stereo Headset
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TA4HRMQ/

I'm by no means an audiophile and want something that sounds nice to use between commutes.

>>58999946
It's dope

>>59008376
Can this sennshit leave? He's triggering me

How do the X2 and the dtt880 compare?

>Budget
under $100 preferably ~$75
>Location
US
>Type
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
~ 3 hours
>Past headphones
HD518, ATHAD500X, HD668B, SPH9500

[GO]

>>59010611
Can't contribute, but how were the HD 518s compared to the SHP9500s?

how here afraid of going deaf?

the volume goes slowly up until I have to take my headphones off for some reason and when I put them back I'm like holy shit

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>>59010641
Bass heavy to the point the mids are a little muddied

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Post Saturday night cans

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>>59010684
Both are very comfortable but once again I'd give the advantage to the Phillips. Whatever material they are using for the pads and band is on point in terms of comfyness.

>>59010684
>>59010723
Thanks for the comparison, anon.

>>59010611
Bump for further interest.

>>58999978
Garbage comfort, hard clamp without streching/age, V-shape. Newer ones have quite good mids, even though they're recessed. Low end is somewhat muddy, highs are quite screechy and offputting.

DT770's are better if youre after V-shape
M40x are better if you want a flatter sound.

>>59000048
MDR XD100 is what I'd go with
Senny HD201 are decent, but they've got small cups. Normal sennheiser sound sig.

Rest just seem to be on ear aids, or no-name chinkshit [not inherrently a bad thing, but youve got little info about them because of that]

>>59001029
If you use your speakers enough, dump the Logitech shit. Get some JBL LSR305's, or second hand bookshelves and a poweramp.

Headphones are okay.

>>59002273
I've used these. Breddy gud. Theyre not as sealed as most IEMs, but do the job pretty well. They're surprisingly balanced when using the normal filter. Just watch for the tips of the filters rusting. Mine turned green.

>>59003213
>It still works with other computers, including an extra shitty windows tablet
It's your PC then. Try using a USB hub or something.

>I was looking at the ODAC and the Modi 2.
ODAC is shit. Get the Modi 2 Uber if youre going to go through Schiits line. The normal one is a waste. It's worth not fucking with dumb USB issues. Go optical.

>>59003568
The point of diminishing return is nonexistent. Its there from the beginning.

>>59003333
Yes. As long as the pads are in normal condition, absolutely take it. Use the rest of what you'd have spent for retail price on a nice amp if you don't have one already.

>>59003461
>Fuck, why do manufacturers do that
Because open back sounds better.

>>59004636
Get a better job, or build your own headphones.

>>59003213
Fulla 2, Modi 2, Modi 2 Uber (usb+coaxsdpif+opticalspdif)

>>59004636
Drugs.

>>59011137
Check the prices for it new.

>>59011260
$287 was as cheap as I could find it. I guess a 'nice' might be a little stretch.

Either way a Magni 2 is only $13 more. [and shipping?]

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Is the Fiio X1 Gen2 the best music player you can get for ~$100?

https://discord.gg/gXTnhy2

DMS3TV discord, FUCK ZEOS FREE HITLER

>>59011790
shut up noob gofspare

Delete dis

>>59011817
shit mod

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SAYCXWG/ref=twister_B00SRWDHOE?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

redpill me on this headset, are they any good? i need something cheap that wont break after 2 months.

Reminder that Schiit is well known to infiltrate audio communities and post as "users" recommending Schiit for every possible scenario.
Be wary of the schiit shill.

>>59011959
Cloud one's are better, should last.

>>59012070
are fiio's sales this damaged by the fulla 2?

>>59012093
> Never mention any brand
> Immediately brings up Fiio for no reason whatsoever
Three rupees have been deposited in your account rajeesh.
Buy your family a nice dinner tonight.

So I posted on another audio community that the entire point of an amplifier is to make headphones sound louder and there should be no audible difference between two different amps assuming they both drive headphones to the exact same volume to compare.
I got five, lets call them, dislikes.
Why is this, /hpg/?

>>59012136
Theoretically you're correct, though in practice there are differences.

>>59012151
>though in practice there are differences.
What are these differences and why they happen?

>>59012105
you've already shit up the thread with your shilling of the e10k

>>59012166
> Shill trying to deflect attention and counter-shill
You've been found. Best retreat and ask your supervisor how to handle with this situation.
Doubling down on the shilling won't do anything.

>>59012199
you do realize your shitposting is just damaging for fiio, right?

>>59012214
> He keeps shilling
The absolute madman. You really want that 5 rupees rise don't you.

What are some headphones similar in comfort and price to the philips x2? Preferably with a detachable cable.

>>59012241
HD600/650 if you stretch the headband

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Schiit stack for $170, yes or no?

>>59012661
Including shipping/handling? Sure. You're saving $44 or more.

>>59012136
Do you go by the name of "stratoside"?

>>59012711
> Saving 44 bucks in exchange for the warranty
Seems like a fucking awful deal.

>>59012136

Were they tube-amp fans? Believe it or not, some people prefer certain pieces of their setups to color their sound. Neutral (or as close as possible) /= best for everyone, so I can imagine that you did indeed receive some "dislikes".

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Few questions.

My motherboard has a Realtek ALC1150. I think the sound I get from it is alright, but would I really gain anything from an external DAC?

Also:

>Budget:
$400 and under
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, Reaktek ALC1150, no amp
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Not sure, people are noisy as fuck in my apartment and I don't know if I can get by with open.
>Comfort level
Excellent
>Sound signature
Flat
>Past headphones
-Shure SRH840, had these for about 5-6 years now and they've been through a headband replacement since the pleather got flaky and the hinge cracked. Love these besides build quality and weight.
-V-Moda XS

>>59011052
Do those ever go on sale? Seeing them at 219$ per. Would they work fine just being plugged into on-board pc audio?

>>59011574
Shanling M1 is superior m8.

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>>58999797
Noise Reduction Rating: 24 Decibels

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>>59014146
$40
You don't need to spend hundreds of dollars for good noise-canceling headphones

>>59014178
Give it back, Pedro.

>>58999978
I fell for the meme
Not bad but not good either

>>59011032
What about the Dr Dre headphones? or they're most likely chinese?

Any good Bluetooth headphones?

>>59015040
In what price range?

>>59015090
Around $40? Although is getting Bluetooth headphones/iems worth it?

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>>59014978
For the price of Dr. Dre headphones, you could have just gotten headphones from a truly premier company.

Even after all these years, they're still one of the best acoustical-equipment manufacturers. If you're ever in doubt, just go to your local frys/best-buy and try on one of the demo pairs. You will hear the difference.

>>59015115
Bluetooth doesn't have good fidelity. It will certainly degrade the quality of your sound. Trust me, I've tried a handful of different bluetooth headphones. They all sucked. Bluetooth is good enough for a hands-free cell headset, for making phone calls. But when it comes to music, don't even try.

This doesn't mean you can't have wireless headphones. There are headphones out there with decent RF transmitters. Just don't get ones that use the Bluetooth spec.

I used to have some wireless headphones from creative labs, and they had pretty decent sound quality.

>>59015116
Dude, with this style of shilling you're literally stealing your salary.

For those who just don't know, Bose make shit overpriced products that nobody should buy. Except noise cancelling headphones. Those are good. But anything other than that isn't worth the money.

>>59015147
OK, yes, I will admit that their products are overpriced. Most high-quality items are overpriced, because the manufacturers know they can get away with it. (this is true in every industry)

Yes, Bose is overpriced.
But they're also of the best. Their equipment IS high-quality.

>>59013486
Electronics usually die right at the start of their life. He's pretty safe in this case.

>>59013581
>Do those ever go on sale? Seeing them at 219$ per
They were ~$130 on US amazon last week, so i'd assume so.

>Would they work fine just being plugged into on-board pc audio?
They're powered, so they don't need a speaker amp.

You can plug them in either from XLR of 6.3mm TRS. So as long as you get a cable that converts 3.5mm from your soundcard/motherboard to XLR/6.3mm, yes, you absolutely can.

>>59015198
>But they're also of the best. Their equipment IS high-quality.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59012136
>being a redditor

>>59011302
>Either way a Magni 2 is only $13 more. [and shipping?]

I'd grab the fulla2. It's cheaper, much more useful, highest value for the money from schiit, sounds the same as the modi+magni stack.

full disclosure: I have both the MMU stack and the fulla2.

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>>59005300
>Dr Dre for just 12$
Buy in bulk.

I'd go with Audiance A2 Premium

>>59015198
When comparing at the same price, every other headphone is better than bose. Sound quality, durability...

They have noise cancelation, but it's a gimmick, with a nasty side effect. I've tried some QC35s and they make me want to puke when I turn that on.

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Guys! You're missing the deal! Solo, Beats, Studio Dr. Dres for just 12$ each.

>>59015957
Do you mean that they give us $12 to use those things?

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hey /hdg/, sorry to bother you. This isn't related to headphones but to earbuds, but i figured it'd be rude to make a whole new thread about, but I can delete this post if it's really not appropriate.

So i had pic related for a few years, and those were basically the only earbuds that I could use. All of the in-ears I've tried just feel gross because they squish around in my ear and it feels like they are completely blocking out everything, including air and it's an uncomfortable feeling that's similar to when you're descending in an airplane.

On the other hand, traditional earbuds just fall out and aren't comfortable at all either. Pic related was literally the only pair that I could keep on for hours.

Anyone else have a similar issue? I don't want headphones because they will mess with my hair so maybe this is the wrong place to ask but ye idk where else.

>>59015983
I'd do that no problem! As long as I can use them unplugged. I'll use IEMs instead.

>>59015255
I'll definitely keep these in mind. Thanks a lot

How is the SMSL M6? Anyone have it?

People seem to say the sound is comparable to the Schiit stack. The M6 is around $135 so that makes it a very attractive alternative.

>>59000048
What about Scott Prince? or Japan isn't good at audio?

>>59016178
>in-ears feel like they're blocking everything, including air
Afaik, most IEMs are designed to perform at their best when such a seal is created.
I've had a similar feeling when I started wearing IEMs with a good seal, felt slight nausea at times. The nausea went away after a few days of use, once my ears (and brain?) got used to them.

Also a congested eustachian tube could be another cause, as this tube connects and stabilizes pressure between the nasal cavity and the inner portions of your ears.

An alternative solution to earbuds/IEMs are clip-on on-ear headphones like the KSC75. They may or may not sacrifice sound quality for you, but they may be more comfortable than these traditional earbuds you speak of.

>>59015983
>>59016326
What's so bad about those specific headphones?

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dt 880 600 vs hd 598

ATH M40x
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