why do people use this garbage instead of IRC?

>>58984887
it has voice and images and videos (embedded not just links)
Fantastic emojis and custom emojis
The devs are cool and post funny memes
Easy to use UI (I couldn't register a simple account in that shitty IRC command and no UI thing)
Soon its going to have video calls too
I can go on but I hope you got BTFOed and if you want to say "muh freedom", not everyone hides CP like you in their PC, so we don't have anything to hide beside the porn search history that's two clicks away from deletion

Discord is actually usable

Normies don't know how to IRC

Why do people keep making this garbage thread instead of good ones?

kiwiirc.com

>>58984923
>so we don't have anything to hide beside the porn search history that's two clicks away from deletion
Really ?
Wanna share your credit card details and social security number with 4chan then ?

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>a thread died for this

>>58984925
this is basically the entire story

>>58984975
From le spooky botnet that /G/ shitposts about, not your retarded slippery slope ass

>>58984923
>>>/v/

>>58984887
>people
People that are video gamers, yes

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>>58984923
>I couldn't register a simple account in that shitty IRC command and no UI thing
If you can't even figure out how NickServ works, what are you doing on /g/? It gives you a set of instructions so straightforward and simple that you shouldn't even be able to get it wrong. This would be the equivalent of going to /k/ without knowing how to do something as simple as disassembling your gun, or even worse, how to load and fire it.

It's pretty convenient.

>>58985027
>what are you doing in /g/
he is robably learning how NickServ works

>>58985027
The nu-g is all about latest iproduct discussion/circlejerking
Technology doesnt really belong here anymore

>>58984887
I'm don't want to explain how to register every time someone joins the clan irc

>>58984887
Because my friends are on it and it's easier to voice chat on there than irc

People understand registering for an account and friends lists etc much better than messaging NickServ and joining channels etc (not even gonna mention needing to host a BNC just for offline messaging)

They both still have their advantages/disadvantages over each other though, it's really too bad Discord isn't open source, if it was I could see it replacing IRC pretty easily after some changes

what about jabber?
supports offline messages and is open sauce
and free to boot

>>58984989
I was just memeing desu. But I'll tell you why I don't like Discord.

I don't like Chromium's god awful font rendering.
I don't like that Discord has no options for font size unless I either 1) open the dev console and force it to scale everything down, 2) write a goddamn entire custom CSS for it, or 3) write a plugin to get this basic functionality that everything else has.
I don't like that Discord's UI isn't responsive at all. It doesn't react to resizing the window, doesn't resize or rearrange a single UI element other than the most fucking important one. The user list and "server"/channel list both stay just as huge if you make the window narrower. Shit's retarded.
I don't like that the "light" theme only affects half the fucking client.
I don't like that it doesn't adhere to system defaults. Why does it need to replace the perfectly good title bar with something that takes up literally twice as much space ? Why can't I press Escape to close the rightclick menu ? Why does fucking Chromium use its own shitty ass font rendering, forcing it on everyone who uses Chromium based shit ?
I don't like that I can't view a specific private conversation with a single keyboard shortcut. I especially don't like that Ctrl+1 brings me to the last opened conversation regardless of whether I just got a notification for a different one.

Based on these things, I legitimately don't understand how people like this user experience. I don't understand what makes people think it's good. It isn't. Fucking Skype is a better piece of software on nearly all points.

>ancient technology which is barely used
>simpler, more user-friendly technology with more features

gee i wonder

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not spoopy at all :^)

>>58985096
>using a proprietary piece of crap over a standardized open protocol that can work with any client and is very extensible
>>>/v/

gtfo and never come back

Discord is basicly just another "app" shit. Normies will use it because its what normies do in current year.

Irc is the entire protocol, its open, you can have your own client, your own server, or use tools provided by third party.

>>58985086
xmpp is irrelevant

>>58985125
discord people just collect user data and once they run out of funding, they sell the whole thing to someone
like they did with openfeint

no one is on IRC anymore

>not using Wire

>>58985173
Why would you say that?

Why the fuck would they save pics of me in a dress you realize how worthless that data is to whoever they sell it to?Next thing you're going to tell me is that they saved the videos I posted in the discord or me fingering my ass.

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>>58984887
stop shilling this shit. irc will never die.

>>58985089
Font rendering isn't an issue to me. I am not autistic in that way.
Font size is usually not customizable. I can't find any font customization in skype.
It does not work well with a narrow window size. I'm OK with this, as programs like skype don't let you change the window size past a certain point.
I'm unable to find the light theme. Sucks that there's not another theme available by default. I don't think skype supports any themes.
The window does suck--I hate moving it around, but that's about it. It's not terribly distracting. What bothers me more is windows that can't be moved or resized.
I usually left click to get out of right clicks.
I find it doesn't handle direct messages well. I would rather get an email or text message though. I don't particularly consider discord as a text client.

Now onto positives:
It easily allows you to join multiple communities with a small link
The web interface allows for bots, making things easier for the more technically inclined
You can easily create a new server without much trouble
Voice uses Opus. I honestly don't know why someone would use Mumble, Teamspeak, or Ventrilo over Discord, as Discord also has a somewhat well implemented text channel system which includes a searchable history.

I don't think any comparable voice+chat software is as easy to use.

>>58985251
I bet you use a Mac and an iPhone too faggot

>>58985251
>It easily allows you to join multiple communities with a small link
The links expire and malfunction, whereas a simple /join #channel is enough in my irc client.
>The web interface allows for bots, making things easier for the more technically inclined
The bots on discord are pure cancer. Some channels I've joined have a multple times more bots than users. Also, a text interface is of equal usefulness to a bot as it is to a human. IRC wouldn't have the disadvantage of being bound to a graphical shell, so it doesn't need to engineer around it.
>You can easily create a new server without much trouble
You can create a room, but the actual servers are centralized. You can't have your own server at all, you're just using someone else's servers. Well, with irc, you can spawn a channel by joining it and have ops.

It's because /v/ can't into irc.
By /v/ I mean neo /g/ as well. You know who you are, fuck off, you are not welcome here.

>>58985452
/g/ needs to be partitioned into two. /gh/ for the macfaggots, shills, laptop vidyacard and gaymen vedditors. /gs/ for the old school technology discussion

Why i use discord?

Simple entertainment and discussion.
Nobody is forcing you to use it....

>>58985251
>font rendering is autism
Look, faggot.
On one hand you have sharp, readable fonts.
On the other you have a blurry mess of shit.
Pick one.

>>58984887
I use it for work since it's what the company uses.

It's easy and relatively simple to use for normies, so it branched into becoming a good way for me and my tabletop game group to game over hte internet.

Unlike skype it doesn't suck.

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>>58984887
IRC=text boards
Discord=image boards

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>>58985063
>/g/ - Consumer electronics, reviews and technical support

>>58984887
It's easier to post gay furry porn images in discord

>>58984925
>>58984980
No it's not. Normies don't even know IRC exists because it's not commercial. If someone pushed it normies would've used it. IRC's day has gone though, I used IRC for one reason or another almost constantly between 1995-2013 but I can't think of any reason why I'd ever use it again.

>>58984887
Because it's fun to use for normal people, IRC isn't.

Personally I don't use anything because talking to people is retarded.

>>58986572
But you're talking to me right now

>>58987753
then who was phone?

>>58987753
Posting on 4chan is more akin to shouting out loud in the middle of a room while a hundred other people are shouting next to you, occasionally someone will shout a reply back to something you shouted, but for the most part it's just useless noise.

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>>58984923
This must be bate

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>>58987798
BUT THAT'S STILL A FORM OF CONVERSATION! CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>>58987839
i hear my own voice reading your posts. so essentially i am conversing with myself

>58984923
>Easy to use UI
It has the worst UI I've ever seen on mobile

>>58984887
i dont know but i wish they would stop

>>58987864
But then who am I?

>>58984887
Video calls/Screen sharing (SOON)
better search feature (don't have to use an outside program to scour logs)
Friends List
Voice channels and multiple channels on a server

>>58985430
>The links expire and malfunction, whereas a simple /join #channel is enough in my irc client.
this is by design to prevent people from spreading links around easily and flooding chats with shitters.
you can, however, create them with unlimited uses and unlimited time to use them.

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>much easier
>attached muh 'emoji'
>anyone can make server
not only /v/ using discord another board using too

>>58984923
>Easy to use UI
I've never seen an IRC client with an UI as shitty as the Discord one. Just awful.

The images, videos, emojis, custom emojis, and voice are all cons, not pros. The first four are all much better served with links or plaintext, and for voice, mumble exists. Discord is harmful because due to some muh-integration nonsense, people prefer running one program that does both text and voice badly to two programs of which one is dedicated to text (and therefore does it better) and one to voice.

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>>58984887

Discord was heavily shilled on its launch to game devs which rely on it as part of feedback for early access games and to gather data instead of relying on server hosting with the traditional bundles of teamspeak, ventrilo, mumble.

It's a terrible botnet, anyone sensible enough would notice it from the start.

>>58984887
the UI is like twitch threw up and an an instant messenger came out, and bearing witness to it made teamspeak puke up a little bit onto the pile too.

i can't understand why the game overlay is voice chat only. if my buddy wants to dump steam for discord, i still have to use steam to talk to him in-game because he doesn't use a mic.

>>58984887
It's horrible on mobile

>>58988168
Get fucked, phoneposter

So many ancient tards in this thread. My mind is blown.

>>58984887

IRC is old man tech. You cant even post pics via irc. Fucking msn messenger from 2000 could do that

>>58988462
Just make a script that convert pictures to ansiart or other types of text art.

WHAT IF
there was an IRC shell for morons? Where it would make it similar to Discord in that text commands would be left to experienced people only, with majority of most used commands delegated to buttons and text input controls?

>>58984923
>The devs are cool and post funny memes
no that part of discord is cancer

>>58984977
>oh noooooooo a battlestation thread nobody was reading or replying to is in the archive instead of page 10!
suck an egg

irc is more likely to reveal your IP address
discord is not

>>58985173
>>58988044
I can't wait for them to be bought out by facebook and then have a huge portion of the userbase jump ship because they don't like facebook.

>>58984887
IRC:
>text chat

Discord:
>text chat
>voice chat
>video chat soon
>file/image upload
>easier for dumbasses to use

Yeah, it's a mystery why people prefer it over IRC.

>>58984975
>this argument
Look, if discord can manage to find my CC and SS# then I would have to worry more about the hundreds of other sites that can also have my info. Discord has no way of IDing anyone through those methods, all they got is usage data from the app itself and possibly any browser tabs you have open alongside discord.

>If you don't care about your privacy for one app why not give up ALL your info?
Flawed logic. Again discord doesn't collect any payment info, so why does that equate to my CC and Social being open to the internet? Discord isn't some black market irc chatroom and no one is on there worrying about their messages being leaked n shit.

>>58989357
>Discord has no way of IDing anyone through those methods

>what is speaker recognition
>what is face recognition
>what is selling this data for aggregation to interested parties like gaming companies that will then put instant ads in your game

>>58988020

>BUH BUH ITS JUST AWFUL BECAUSE ITS NOT SUPER MINIMAL AND AUTISTIC TO MY LIKING

>WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT TAKES A COUPLE OF CLICKS TO DO SOMETHING? I WANT TO TYPE COMMANDS CUZ IT MAKES ME FEEL SUPER LEET HAXCOOORRR XDDDD

i hope you die.

>>58985372
I have to use a mac for work because apple's VPN is OSX only. My team communicates via iMessage, so I use my iPhone as well occasionally. My primary phone is a nexus.

>>58985430
It's so much easier to instruct someone to join a discord server if you don't have the software installed though:
discord.gg/Bq9Xdd and follow the instructions vs download an IRC client, connect to 64.29.30.11 then type /join #faggot. The IRC client involves a LOT more keypresses.

APIs were created so that you don't have to be bound to a graphical shell.

I don't need to own my server. It's probably better that way because my DSL upload speed is slow.

>>58985698
>blurry mess of shit
it's not, hence why I don't care. Bokeh is a blurry mess of shit, and I sit far enough away from my monitors to not care. It also looks better when you use smaller pixels.

who uses this shit besides GAYMERZ?

>>58989696
>I don't need to own my server. It's probably better that way because my DSL upload speed is slow.

You can register a channel to any existing IRC server. The description of "server" Discord uses is very twisted and should never ever be used outside of it's shitty ecosystem. You'll sound like a plebeian.

>>58989712
>/v/ like microsoft
I know it's bait, but at least be a little believable.

>>58989830
>I know it's bait

Back you go, >>>/v/

>>58984887
Because IRC is not pushed on you by faggots.

I like IRC but Discord is being shilled by every group now, so if I don't use it is like quitting the groups.

People like Discord because it's the "just werks" version of IRC.

>>58989917
IRC "just werks", too

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>>58984887
Why don't people care about their privacy? Why would people all just jump onto a closed-source platform that popped up out of nowhere with a developed interface and features (funding from where?), with a privacy policy stating they collect any and all data pertaining to users use of the service to sell to "third-parties"?

>>58989935
Not for many people.

>IRC
Download client
Get the server address
Set up server connection
Scary text based commands and interface
>Discord
Download client
Choose a nickname
Link accounts of social media stuff, from steam to leddit
Friends will be linked automatically

It's easy to see why normalfags like it.

>>58990042
>Scary text based commands and interface
>Scary
LOL'ED

>>58990042
There are tons of websites where you just have to enter your nickname and the rest is handled automatically. Don't even need to download a client.

>>58990104
They are unlikely to be optimized for phoneposters

>>58990058
Well, that's how normalfags see it.
I remember back when I was at the uni, even in my stemtard faculty, most first semester fags were like "what the fuck is this witchery" when they touched ganoolanux for the first time.

>>58990104
People like having an independent platform exclusively to chat.
Hence why messenger (fb) exists.
Also the discord app exists for pc and phone, so it's easy peasy for them.
I know that irc phone apps exists, but that's not the point.

I cant fucking stand any of these worthless "apps" that decided you need our company and our servers and our unlimited rights to anything sent over those servers to send a fucking string of text or a picture from one persons computer to another.
Just kill me already, I dont want to live in this gay world.

>why do people
>people
They're normies.

>>58985140
Untrue. I only use XMPP and IRC.

>>58984975
I don't share my credit card details or social security number with Discord.

OK /g/ I HAVE THIS FIGURED OUT
HOW TO TRICK NORMIES INTO USING IRC

Step 1.
Put all existing IRC applications to the thrash bin.
Step 2.
Create a logo.
Step 3.
Create a Discord-like shell for IRC. The less commands a person has to type in and more buttons he has to press the better. Links to videos and images should be embedded client side. It should all run on javascript and have some web page for hosting but a person could just save the webpage and still access the features with an older version that he stored.

Asking some "nerd" friend to come on IRC cause MSN sucked bollocks was

>I don't have to type/search the server you and your channel are in,just use MSN cause it has everything I need without any kind of hassle

That was 14ish years ago when Miranda existed and all the clients but Wilco and TS could be used and kept in working order with few clicks.Passed him Miranda client and the .cfg and he went even more bollocks.

We're lucky cause now,in the present day we managed to convince him to use WA otherwise he was still stuck with Skype

>>58984887
Good luck doing VOIP with an IRC server.

>>58985931
This is what it has come to, and I want off this ride.

>>58990410
In my experience most people don't use voice chat.

>>58990410

netmeeting still works wonders and I still have the ball shaped logitech camera

>>58984887
This is what Tox could have been. Think about it.

>>58988044
This comic is gold

>>58989935
Not for phoneposters who want to be able to tap something and have memes and their chat pop up instantly.

>>58989658
okay now how does that end up as them getting your CC and Social?
>pro tip, it doesn't
Obviously they can have your name and whatever fucking account you link them, that's part of the service, every chat service with registered users have and do that. Don't like it? Too bad, its not an anonymous chat service.

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>>58984887
because it is easy a fuck for normies to use. you dont even have to have the program if you use the web version

>>58984923
>The devs are cool and post funny memes
>wanting to use an actual meme

>>58986551
I used IRC when i was a nigh shift security guard in college. it was dank as fuck talking to australians and shit

>>58989177
normies dont give a fuck

>>58988044
skype fucking sucked ass. why the fuck did it not have a push to talk

>>58989712
147 IQ, where do I belong?

>>58992351
Don't worry, friend. You're on the left ;)

is there a /g/ discord?

>>58985027
not a single person uses irc anymore as they all moved over to easier to use applications, the only people in irc make your life hell when you are first learning it, so no one new uses it.

discord is just the newest thing that doesn't suck at its purpose.

>>58984887
It's quick and easy for normies, plus "free".

>>58989712
microsoft did all of 2 things right for the mass market, xp and 7, both were good when they came out, as in useable, and neither completely fucked the user over a barrel

free software is helpful, but its so horribly made that paid is almost always better.

linux while it has its place has utterly failed in every aspect of being good for consumers, has failed to take off because of it, and now that consumers are fucking off of computers entirely, will never get mass audiences so no one will develop real software for them.

no one thinks or likes microsoft, they just put up with their shit because there is no realistic alternative without massive concessions that are not worth it

>>58990034
because I use the client to dick around with, the moment they get useful info from me from that thing is also the day hell freezes over.

>>58984887
because people who make foss tech are to autistic to fucking make it user friendly, and think extreme amounts of bullshit hoops is intuitive.

>>58992608
I like this attitude. It keeps the retards out of IRC

>>58984887
Because their autism is just mild instead of full blown irc autism

>>58989712
My iq is 117, i use linux and praise stallman, I am conflicted as my score is much closer to /v/ but i hate the botnet

>>58985201
Discord is nice tho.

>>58989054
just use vhosts you fag

its some stupid freemium shit where you can buy extra features

It provides the features of team speak. ventrillo, mumble etc but dumbed down and for free. It also was shilled en masse on launch and as a result was picked up by many. I prefer skype for private conversation but i can see its appeal as its basically free teamspeak. I don't like how limited i feel with control of servers and also how shady everything is.

>>58992682
People used to absolutely hate WinXP when that came out. People called it fisher price, bloated, slow, complicated. There was a lot of people that stuck with Win98 and Win2k for a long time after WinXPs launch.

For the Win98 crowd, WinXP fucked them over big by having poor compatibility with a lot of the applications people used on a regular basis. Stuff that either required Win9x or MSDOS.

In my opinion. Win2k was the last genuinly good version of Windows. It was simple, and fun to use, very stable.

>>58984887
Because I don't have to install something for it.

Honestly, is there anything bad about it when you use the web client and never post anything important on it?

>>58996851
They called it fisher price because of a ui change that takes all of 1 minute to change if you don't like it.

If you had win 2000, you weren't stuck on it, it was legitimately better till around service pack 1 then you made a judgement call, and once sp 2 came round, xp was hands down better.

my windows 98 computer was a pentium 333, had i think at the end 120~ mb of ram, and a 32mb video card, it also had a 5.6gb hdd. Even on a fresh install, 98 would blue screen every other day, and by month 2 it would be every few hours, legitimately tried switching to linux at points because of how bad it got.

just by looking at it, xp would have eaten 1/4th my hdd at launch and about 2/3 to 3/4 the hdd at sp3

If you had a 98 computer, you were on very much legacy hardware, and this was an era where 1-1.5 years saw doubling in performance. honestly. this 1500$ 98 computer would not have fucking worked with xp or worked horrifically, especially considering how light weighing 98 was, but once hardware picked up a bit, or you bought a current computer xp was easily the better os (2000 withstanding)

win7 would have been another xp had it come out when vista did, as it had much the same issues as xp but ramped the fuck up to even new current hardware would not run it well, by the time 7 came out, the hardware had caught up so it was great right out the box.

>>58992812
Thank fucking christ nothing worth a damn required irc anymore.

>>58984887
Because it's shilled very very heavily. /v/irgins are easily convinced to buy into stupid shit and use it. It's full of vulns and bugs though, so you shouldn't use it. IRC is also shit.

If you don't care about freedom, just use Skype.

If you do care about freedom, just use Tox or one of the other many alternatives to IRC.

>>58993134
Maybe if you're retarded.
>>58985201
IRC is long past dead.

>>58992351
Probably along with /g/, but if you get hit in the head a few times, you could drop down to /pol/ or upper-/v/ tiers.

>>58992930
You're simply doing it to fit in with the actual smart people. You'd never be able to explain free software to others, and you don't program or contribute to free software in any meaningful way.

>>58989712
Quality post, anon. I await the triggering of the /pol/ & /v/ who come here to talk about things which aren't technology, like trackers and /sqt/.

To trigger you