/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Firs for use what the fuck you want, I chose source mage.

is source mage fag the new Kevin?

is the slackware shill the new kevin?

>>58977041
yes

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First for S ource M age GNU/Linux.

>>58977041
>>58977062
Fuck off.

>>58977085
shut up kevin

>>58977098
shut up kevin

how can I display listening and established connections with ss?

inb4 the slackware shill can't answer questions

I saw screenshots where people have drawings like space invaders or a cow on the terminal.
Are those bash scripts? Where do I get them?

>>58977147

ss -Heil

or

ss -Hitler

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>>58977308

>>58977308
Search github for colorscripts.
Here's the space invaders one:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jaykru/colorscripts/master/space.sh

Which is better, dnf or zypper?

>>58977308
https://github.com/stark/Color-Scripts

>>58977014
looks like default Raleigh theme from gtk2.

I wish some autistic anon would make a gtk2/gtk3 with similar appearance.
I liked the old blocky style of win2k era UIs.

>>58977377
>>58977363
>>58977356

Thanks :)

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>>58977575
Made this a while back. Sharing because why not.

#!/usr/bin/env bash
# GPLv3+

f=3 b=4;
for j in f b; do
    for i in {0..7}; do
        printf -v $j$i %b "\e[${!j}${i}m"
    done
done

rst=$'\033[0m'
bld=$'\033[1m'
inv=$'\033[7m'

cat << EOF
 ${rst}
 ${f1}      .-.
 ${f1}     /   \  ${f3}       .-.
 ${f1}    /     \ ${f3}      /   \ ${f5}      .-. ${f7}    .-. ${f2}    _ ${f3}  _ ${f4} .
 ${bld}${f0}---${f1}/${f0}-------${f2}\\${f0}-----${f3}/${f0}-----${f4}\\${f0}-----${f5}/${f0}---${f6}\\${f0}---${f7}/${f0}---${f1}\\${f0}---${f2}/${f0}-${f2}\\${f0}-${f3}/${f0}-${f3}\\${f0}${f4}/ ${f4}\\${f5}/-${f6}-${f7}-
 ${bld}${f1}  / ${f2}        \   / ${f4}      \   / ${f6}    '-' ${f1}    '-' ${f3}  ˇ
 ${bld}${f1} /  ${f2}         '-'  ${f4}       '-'
 ${rst}
EOF

>>58977708
they surely will fix the filepicker in v4

>>58977734
Well one thing for sure GTK3 won't get the icon preview.

GTK 3.22 is the last GTK3 version and is now considered "on life support".

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>>58977213
that's /Doktor/ shill to you, asswipe

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>fork gtk
>add thumbnail previews
>get famous
let's do this

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>>58977562
>>I wish some autistic anon would make a gtk2/gtk3 with similar appearance.
>I liked the old blocky style of win2k era UIs.
Like this?

>>58977698
>

#!/usr/bin/env bash
#             DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
                    Version 2, December 2004

 Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar <[email protected]>

 Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified
 copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long
 as the name is changed.

            DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
   TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION

  0. You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO.


f=3 b=4;
for j in f b; do
    for i in {0..7}; do
        printf -v $j$i %b "\e[${!j}${i}m"
    done
done

rst=$'\033[0m'
bld=$'\033[1m'
inv=$'\033[7m'

cat << EOF
 ${rst}
 ${f1}      .-.
 ${f1}     /   \  ${f3}       .-.
 ${f1}    /     \ ${f3}      /   \ ${f5}      .-. ${f7}    .-. ${f2}    _ ${f3}  _ ${f4} .
 ${bld}${f0}---${f1}/${f0}-------${f2}\\${f0}-----${f3}/${f0}-----${f4}\\${f0}-----${f5}/${f0}---${f6}\\${f0}---${f7}/${f0}---${f1}\\${f0}---${f2}/${f0}-${f2}\\${f0}-${f3}/${f0}-${f3}\\${f0}${f4}/ ${f4}\\${f5}/-${f6}-${f7}-
 ${bld}${f1}  / ${f2}        \   / ${f4}      \   / ${f6}    '-' ${f1}    '-' ${f3}  ˇ
 ${bld}${f1} /  ${f2}         '-'  ${f4}       '-'
 ${rst}
EOF

>>58977809
Don't let me call the cops.

>>58977796
Yes.
The enormously important question is - how inconsistent is it with GTK3 applications.

>>58977827
>Don't let me
Okay. I forbid you from calling the cops.

>>58977809
that shit doesn't even run, kek
>>58977777
checked, this

>>58977777
Since GTK3 won't update anymore it's now viable to make a patch that will introduce such feature, similar to what happened with GTK2

>>58977850
;_; touché.

>>58977777
You'd also need to maintain that thing, adding a new logo isn't enough.

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I have a problem with the nouveau drivers freezing (within, at most, a few minutes) when using KDE, but I want to install openSUSE with KDE. Does this method seem sound to you?

>install using text-based installer
>deselect the nouveau driver during the installation and only install the vesa driver
>install nvidia driver according to https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers after completing the installation

I think this should work, but my concern is that the vesa driver might not work with my hardware for whatever reason. Does anyone know if there's a list of cards out there which is works with?

>>58977841
that I can't tell you, since I never bothered learning which of my applications use GTK2, GTK3, or something else.

Nothing I use looks out of place though. That screenshot is from Debian stable but I have testing on my laptop, the only thing that broke was that terminal windows (and nothing else) don't use the correct scrollbar. I haven't bothered looking into that since I'm gonna reinstall that machine when stretch gets officially released.

>>58977809
>>58977698
adding a license to stuff you post online isn't a bad idea btw
everything you post without a free license is automatically copyrighted and legally nobody is allowed to use it

>>58977901
I guess I'll wait for the release of stretch too and then GTK themes won't matter since I'm going to switch from Xfeces to LXQt anyways.

>>58977917
>nobody is allowed to use it
>freetards actually belive this

>>58977917
Tell this $half_of_github.

>>58977935
That's how copyright works, anon. Look it up.

>>58977969
Everything you post is property of the website you are posting it on, they own what you post on their site,dosent mean its illegal

serious question. how are you supposed to know if someone violated the GPL if the source is closed?

>>58977969
you're forgetting the part where copyrights are only enforced if one party wants to sue the other party and can prove that it owns the copyright, that the other party infringed on that copyright, etc.
which basically means you have to have at least twice as much money to spend on laywers as the other guy on top of a certain minimum time and resources it would take to even start the process

>>58977993
Well if nobody checks, then you don't. But if someone investigates, it can be given away by object code and function names that are identical to whats in the GPL software. That's easily looked at in a debugger.

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>>58977992

Why aren't you using Source Mage GNU/Linux yet, /g/?

>>58978121
I dont use flavor of the month meme shitty distros

what is this crap, why does it mute but not unmute?

pactl set-sink-mute @DEFAULT_SINK@ toggle

Got a new Arch Linux setup here on my laptop and everything's great except I can't click and drag (e.g. for highlighting things or moving around windows)

Anyone had to deal with something like this before? Is this something I have to change in the DE (xfce) or something I have to change in my touchpad configuration file (70-synaptics)? If it's the touchpad configuration, how do I change it?

>>58978143
Can you be more vague?

>>58977993
There are multiple ways, from checking the way the application makes API calls to actually reverse engineering to get variable names and such.
There are of course methods of obfuscating all of this some are more effective other don't make a difference (cause the profile of execution would stay the same).

But you have to ask yourself.
As a developer, if you're going to go through all the loops and hoops to steal a piece of GPL code, why not fucking write it yourself especially when you consider that in many years ahead someone by pure accident might discover what you've done and rain FSF lawyers on your head.

And no, noone's going to sue you for copying a function.

Taking a GPL application, changing the name and making it proprietary doesn't make a lot of sense does it?
Who's going to pay you if there's a free as in beer (and free as in freedom) version of the thing you're trying to sell with exactly the same features?

Chinks are known for license violations but to these people the concept of law apparently doesn't exist, so why would software licensing be any different.

Cisco however learned the bad way about it and had to pay up.

>>58978198
cisco only paid so stinky stallman would stop picketing their main hq

Its no more then a slap on the wrist and no one really cares about your puny little letter

>>58978279
butthurt cisco shill or I don't know what.
The desired effect was achieved. Cisco stopped violating the GPL.
No idea what did you expect. Stallman putting their employees in gas chambers?

>>58978137
The Archwiki was helpful.

amixer -D pulse sset Master toggle

does the job.

>>58978318
>stopped violating the GPL
No,they just do it better so they dont get caught,much like any other company

GPL is a joke,and only favors users raping devs, it dosent protect the devs at all, and no one should use gpl for anything serious

>>58978121
I will as soon as they release version 1.0

>>58978377
Right.

>>58978377
Fuck off troll.

>>58978393
>>58978395
>deflecting

Microsoft jews are raiding us, they're coming for our freedom.

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>mfw finally installed Unbound
geez, it's way easier than I thought. Literally just uncomment a couple lines in unbound.conf and add 127.0.0.1 to resolv.conf

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unbound

>>58978440
Doubt it's a /v/edditor.
More probably the guy that comes here and shills for the BSD license every now and then.

>>58978442
I hope you setup DNSSEC and DNSCRYPT while you were playing with it

>>58978377
GPL was never designed to protect the devs, it was designed to protect the users.

>>58978475
Exactly, its a shitty license

>Get Debian for an old UltraSPARC machine
>Kernel 3.2? Fuck, this shit's ancient
>Proceed to compile 4.9.10 on this thing
>Change vmlinuz compression to gzip because lol 20 year old bootloader (SILO)
>Probably have the oldest SPARC machine running a cutting-edge kernel in the world
>Shit, nobody builds updated binaries for this arch anymore
>Proceed to install FUCKING PORTAGE on Debian
>Everything just werks, incredibly enough
Please, explain to me what the fuck have I spent these last four days doing.

>>58978475
just don't reply man.
there's no winning.

It's an endless back and forth shitflinging where both sides claim to do the same thing best.

>>58978177
:^)

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What does it even mean for a piece of software to be version 1.0?

Isn't it all relative? Don't they all have different conventions regarding that?

Maybe one program's version increases by 0.5 while another's by 0.01 after an equivalent amount of develpment.
By the time program1's at v3.5, program2'd be at v0.07 but they would have equivalently developed features.

How can you compare the extent to which programs are developed by version number?

>>58978533
Version 1 is entirely up to the developers goals and standards.

>>58978485
installing gentoo

>>58978533
Look up Semantic Versioning.

Not everyone follows it, but it's fairly widespread nowadays

>>58978544
But does it even mean anything?

>>58977370
Zypper is probably the best package management tool, I don't even use openSUSE

>>58978557
It means the developer has worked on the product to a point where he sees it to be fit for publication.

Anyone using systemd-boot/bootctl? Is efibootmgr required?

>>58978533
I always thought that at least 1.0 was standard to mean it's "ready". Everything lower than 1.0 is like beta or alpha.
That was just my understanding though.

>>58978121
But I do.

bash question.
I have a script to load certain iptable rules from the "rulefile"list:

while read rule; do
    iptables $rule
done < $rulefile

everything works perfectly except for hex string matching rules, for example if the rule in rulefile is:

-A CHAIN ... --hex-string '|096c6f63616c686f7374|'

iptables will use this string:

'|27096c6f63616c686f737427|'

why?

>>58978557
1.0 is the first release.
Anything before 1.0 is alpha/beta/whatever

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http://s1.webmshare.com/OVJPA.webm

Why would I want to compile a custom kernel?

Can someone who does this explain why?
What are the benefits?
The vanilla kernel is working just fine for me.

>>58978909
>The vanilla kernel is working just fine for me.
Then why the fuck are you asking?

A simple google would clear all your doubts

>>58978909
If you are using a vanilla kernel, you compiled it yourself.

>>58978592
Use plain efibootmgr and EFISTUB kernel. No systemdboot required :^)

>>58978533
Slackware jumped from version 4 to version 7 because Red Hat was pumping out versions really fast back then and they didn't want to seem outdated. They also had a 13.37 release some years ago.
Once TeX hit version 3, Knuth started adding digits of pi with every release (3 -> 3.1 -> 3.14 -> 3.141...), with the intention of making pi the actual "official" version number (and probably break all package managers in the process) once TeX has reached the point where no further changes will ever need to be made to it.
But yeah, anything before version 1 means the developer does not consider it a finished product suitable for distribution and production use.

>>58978945
wut? please explain, sounds interesting, how do you boot without bootloader?

>>58978941
he could be using Slackware

:^)
  ┙

>>58978957
oh well, I just googled

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How can I make changes to grub? I can't get permission to save it when I open it using GUI stuff. Also, what's the #grub# file?
I think it's from when I tried doing:

sudo emacs /etc/default/grub

But, I'm not sure. I dont' want to get crazy and start deleting stuff.

>>58979035
sudo guieditor /etc/default/grub

>>58978674

while read -r rule; do
    iptables "$rule"
done < "$rulefile"

>>58977993
>serious question. how are you supposed to know if someone violated the GPL if the source is closed?

bit of a late reply since I had the page cached, it can be anything from the dev ripping off the code not changing it at all to parts decompiling or debugging identically to gpl code; you'll find examples of android programs ripping off stuff from github and it's blatantly obvious when everything, including the menus, is exactly the same as the programs on github

the issue is proving someone ripped off code in court, it's basically impossible, if this is a concern for you then using an open source licence isn't the solution

>>58978198
>As a developer, if you're going to go through all the loops and hoops to steal a piece of GPL code, why not fucking write it yourself

because developers and code monkeys are lazy, note all the people who are against the gpl on github projects because they now can't use the software in whatever their work is developing

>>58978475
>GPL was never designed to protect the devs, it was designed to protect the users.

to be fair the gpl does a lot for devs, as linus put it, gpl is great for projects you care about

if anyone makes a fork they're now developing for and contributing to your code base, you get all of that back

>>58978947
>Slackware jumped from version 4 to version 7 because Red Hat was pumping out versions really fast back then and they didn't want to seem outdated.

firefox did this when chrome went to hopping up a major release every few weeks

>>58978941
>If you are using a vanilla kernel, you compiled it yourself.

fedora provide vanilla kernel repositories: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel_Vanilla_Repositories

>>58979035

sudoedit /etc/default/grub

>>58979035
sudo $EDITOR /etc/default/grub

then

update-grub

and yes, #grub# is an auto-save file from emacs, you can delete it.

>>58977006
What's the status of using nvidia optimus (when your laptop has an nvidia gpu + intel integrated) on wayland?

Im running arch with gnome, should I wait until 3.24 is released or there some package I can get to enabled my nvidia card in wayland.

Once my nvidia card functions, how can I set up optimus in wayland?

>>58979227
https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2016/11/01/discrete-graphics-and-fedora-workstation-25/

>>58979079
I thought the commands were the same as emacs.
I want to move forward one character, but ctrl+f isn't working. Also, how do I exit and save?

>>58979279

SUDO_EDITOR='emacs -nw' sudoedit /etc/default/grub

>>58979242
Interesting read, are you saying the solution might just be to wait for Fedora 26?

I've never used Fedora but it seems to be a very respected distro.

My fear of switching to fedora is their RPM packaging system.

Is there a feasibly replacement for the AUR+yaourt on fedora? I have a bunch of strange packages that have something like 20-30 downloads from AUR that i couldnt live without

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Stop using the AUR.

>>58979319
Thanks, I really need to read a Linux/terminal/shell book one day.

>>58979404
If you prefer emacs for all such editings, save this into your bashrc:

export EDITOR='emacs -nw'
export SUDO_EDITOR="$EDITOR"
export VISUAL="$EDITOR"

Then everything will automatically use emacs.

>>58979429
You don't really need to set SUDO_EDITOR because according to the sudoedit man page:
>The sudoers policy uses the SUDO_EDITOR, VISUAL and EDITOR environment variables (in that order).

>>58979499
Thanks, one line spared.

>>58979332
fedora 25 is already out but those features works only with nouveau IIRC (and it should work on arch as well).
What I wanted to say is that we are still at the "some people are trying to figure out a way to make it work" step but there is hope.

Nice to see this thread got some quality back.

>>58979530
The magic of Source Mage is all around us.

Maybe I should ask at /dpt/, but too lazy to open another tab: Is there package/interpreter for brainfuck? I've got a hello.bf I want to execute in the terminal (and play around with the language).

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dispel systemd

>>58979588
try beef(1)

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Today my windows 7 install broke again and I decided I'm going to main OS Debian Jessie
Windows 7 has worked flawlessly, but the past year I've had constant issues/crashes and installs that break
I'm literally using W7 for nothing but steam and not messing around

Is Microsoft knowingly breaking old versions of windows with updates to shill Windows 10?
I can't wrap my head around this, makes no sense

>>58979635
Perfect, thanks

>>58979628
*decurse

>>58979636
install fedora, or ubuntu, they just werk

Looking for a Xorg configuration file that's responsible for the default color of the root window.

By default at startup it's a sort of dark grey.
I know it exists because I used to change it but I completely fucking forgot what it was called, I want to access it and I can't find anything in the search engine

>>58979689
>just werk
I just threw up a little.

>>58979636
install sourcemage

>>58979515
Ahhh, someone once mentioned some EGL binaries in the AUR as a solution but im not really sure what that entails

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-egl-wayland-beta/

>>58979705
That would be your de/wm

>>58979636
next time post an anime image
now fuck off

>>58979741
xorg.
When the window manager finishes loading it obviously ovverrides whatever xorg has as default.
But the initial half a second the screen is grey

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>>58979689
>>58979709
>>58979718
Am I fucking up using Debian as a main OS?
I find it stable and easy to use since I'm still new
Is it too outdated or some shit?
>>58979752
Here you go cunt

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>>58979403
>>58979628
Why did Varg become a meme?
Do you even know who that man is?
Did you ever listen to his music?
Thought so.

>>58979814
>he made a video of things you should stop doing to be a decent human being
>yes
>Yes

>>58979636
Give it a rest for a month.
Soon stretch hits stable so you'll be upgrading your OS again.

>>58979636
This will happen from time to time. Can be the result of corrupted files, softwares breaking things, or even hard drive failure.

The windows OS is very complex and a lot of things can break it.

I have a couple friends who are developers at M$ and complain about this all the time, a lot of codebase doesnt want to be touched, and theyre trying to maintain legacy support for just about everything. There's no way in hell they are trying to break their old OS to force win10, theyre just hoping they can make things as stable as possible.

In my opinion, Windows 10 is a viable upgrade to 7, just get the enterprise edition that allows you to remove cortana and the app store and all that jazz if you want it to mimick win7. Its performance in workstation apps/vidya on identical hardware gives significant gains. There are few reasons to stick to win7 when win10 is significantly faster and more stable.

Outright switching to Linux is a reactionary move that you probably won't like, I recommend you dual-boot and try it out for a while before boldly switching OS's. Do you have a background in linux? Do you consider yourself tech-savy? By the wording of your post I'm inclined to believe youre a casual user. Switching to linux will give you a world of headaches compared to windows, only switch if you have a reason to and are ready.

Use whatever distro you like, although I advise newcomers to stay away from ubuntu for ethical (and bloat) reasons. Debian & Fedora are both great.

>>58979752
This is a friendly thread :) Please be nice

>>58979812
Debian is fine. If you want newer software, look into backports, https://backports.debian.org/

or just use Debian testing / unstable. If you get used to Debian, it will serve you for life

>>58979812
As a first time OS you should probably use Ubuntu or Fedora.
When you get comfy with invoking your package manager fom the command line, move to Debian.

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>>58979814
Since he got out of jail he's been LARPing all day long for the last few days and makes videos about it.

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>>58979812
No. If you're used to Debian and it hasn't broken on you, keep using it. Then when it breaks and you realize the inherent weaknesses of it's design and community, you can switch over to a solid, quality distro

:^)
  ┙

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>>58979588
>>58979635
>>58979650

$ perl -MAcme::Brainfuck -e 'print, ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++.'
Hello World!

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>>58978945
>>58978957
well, did it, my system boot 1 sec faster now. But I suppose the main point was to not use a "middleway" bootloader.

Reminder that xinput will happily record your sudo password, switching to a tty and login as root will prevent xinput from snooping on ya password.

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>>58979848
>>58979856
>>58979858
>>58979865
Thanks anons
I'm going to check out Fedora too and see what it's all about

>>58980055
reminder: your keyboard will happily record your sudo password in its output buffer, never type your password in a keyboard.

>>58980055
I don't have xinput

>>58980152
>>58980055
Reminder that RAM will happily record your sudo password; never type your sudo password while having RAM sticks plugged into your motherboard.

>>58980203
>>58980152
xinput is easier since every program running on the xorg server is trusted unless specified so can steal ur goodies.

Why bit just use `su -c' instead of `sudo'?

>>58980242
yes but I don't have the xinput package

>>58980257
Using the X server ?
If yes then they have unlimited access to your input.

>>58980244
Better is to use a different tty, sudo may not always free the memory so the password can still be in ram long time after you used it.

>>58980055
reminder that firefox sends your ip to every website you visit

>>58980055
Reminder that sudo will happily record your sudo password. Don't use sudo to prevent password highjacking.

>>58980358
oh apparently I installed it with xorg-server-utils because I needed xrandr
although this doesn't look like something that runs in the background and logs my keys

$ pacman -Qi xorg-xinput
Name            : xorg-xinput
Version         : 1.6.2-1
Description     : Small commandline tool to configure devices
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
Licenses        : custom
Groups          : xorg-apps  xorg
Provides        : None
Depends On      : libx11  libxi>=1.5.99.2  xorg-xrandr  libxinerama
Optional Deps   : None
Required By     : xorg-server-utils
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : None
Installed Size  : 89.00 KiB
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>tool for device configuration
apparently I can detatch my keyboard with it

hey /g/, I'm about to install Arch on my laptop and I was wondering if partitioning an SSD is any different than partitioning a hard drive?

>>58980502
>I'm about to install Arch
you already lost

>>58980464

oh no not my ip! dumped for chrome

>>58980511
what's wrong with Arch?

can anyone explaine what's wrong with systemd?

>>58980524
no
>>58980545
no

>>58980358
although on my other machine I don't have it
I do have xrandr though, but no xorg-server-utils

can anyone explain what's wrong with Arch?

>>58980608
It doesn't split most packages so it uses up a lot of disk space really fast. If you have a lot of storage it's pretty okay though. Just don't fall for the "it's minimalist" meme.

>want to use spacemacs
>explanations on how to install packages are shit

>>58980667

>It doesn't split most packages
why would you even want that

>uses up a lot of disk space really fast
do you have a 256 MiB HDD?

the only case where this matters is on embedded systems and in that case you wouldn't be using Arch and systemd in the first place

>>58980716
I'm just saying because a lot of people want to install arch because they think it's minimalist, and I'm trying to say that it isn't.

>>58980500
>>58980591
The xorg-server logs you shit, it's an insecure piece of shit because everything runs in trusted domain everything had access to anything that happens in your windows.

>>58980850
so how do I exploit this?

>>58980739
it kinda is because developing for it and maintaining it takes minimal effort

>>58980881
yeah it really hows how little effort they put into maintaining it....

>>58980870
https://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.nl/2011/04/linux-security-circus-on-gui-isolation.html

>>58980667
>>58980895
not all distros have the manpower to split packages
on Arch at least it's easy to write your own PKGBUILDS and split and compile stuff however you like

>>58980979
i'm pretty sure they do split packages though... at least they did when I used it
and that's easy to do on many systems that don't have the cancerous flaws of Arch due to the fact that sane people work on them

holy crap, batch scripting in my GNU

wine cmd /c '@echo Hello, world!'

Is it possible for BIOS to become corrupted through normal use? I cannot boot from a USB. I've tried multiple different ISOs and multiple different USBs. my computer will turn on, recognise to boot from USBs first as per boot order, then just show a black screen with blinking underlash thing. I'm even using USBs that are untouched and were working fine on this same computer a few days ago.

Also the primary OS installed is void, which is rolling release. could this somehow be causing problems?

>>58981018
>cancerous flaws of Arch
I'm listening

>>58981025
wow

>>58981025
So we are going back to stone age now?

>>58981035
>>58981042
god dammit faggots, I just found it out and wanted to share

is this the best thread on /g/ or what?

>>58981070
There are other threads on /g/ worth lurking?

>>58981085
/dpt/

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Will I like linux if I don't like anime?

>>58981251
Definitely, probably more.

>>58981251
What do you hope to achieve by posting this?

>>58981274
this:
>>58981251
GNU/Linux*

>>58981251
Why are you on 4chan if you don't like anime?

>>58981274
i dunno. I just noticed that the only thing anyone on /g/ seems to do on gnu+linux is show off their waifu or talk about which video player can scale their anime girls the cleanest. I'm not sure what else can even be done on the OS

>>58981289
busybox is better

>>58981293
this is a vietnamese basket weaving forum

>>58981306
>busybox is better
haha care to explain your joke?

>>58981315
It's true :^)

>>58981339
oh I get it, nice one (^:

>>58981347
:^)

>using the emotion with a carrot nose

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>>58981299
It's possible to do ordinary normie shit on (GNU plus) Linux the same as other operating systems.

But I think you'll have a better time if you like anime.

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>mfw

>>58981525
Systemd must be destroyed.
Assemble the neckbeards.
It is time to begin.

>>58981525
Holy shit, you suck at Tetris.

>>58981525

Failed to start tetris.service: Unit tetris.service failed to load: No such file or directory.

I feel vaguely disappointed

>>58981656
it's a new feature expected to come out in the next couple of months
only lennart has it for now

>>58981525
WTF I LOVE SYSTEMD NOW

Linux is going to destroy windows, microsoft can't hored the information forever.

>>58982087
I truly think GNU/Linux will dominate on the desktop one day. However it won't destroy Microsoft, they'll just be in a new market of mobile devices.
Their main audience has always been the average dumb consumers, not enthusiasts and professional computing. Thankfully the average consumer is moving away from the desktop.

is there an /fglt/ approved email client?
I still haven't choozed a client and would like some recommendations.

>>58982291
I like Sylpheed myself

>>58982211
this
Linux will conquer the desktop when Apple/Microsoft/Google draw consumers away from desktops and everything is done on tablets, smartphones, wearables, home theater devices, etc. We're almost there too.
Linux will still have 1-2% of the total market share, but that's because 90% of people will be using mobile/wearable tech as their primary device

>>58982311
>Linux will still have 1-2% of the total market share
It'll go higher than that. There are a lot of hardcore PC gamers that will still want desktops for a long time.
Can't wait to hear them all regret not switching to Linux years earlier
[spoiler]and I'll never forgive them for taking so long[/spoiler]

>>58982304
I use claws mail and when I saw the screenshots on sylpheed's website I had to check if the projects are forks of each other. I mean, I get that any graphical mail client is going to have folders on the left, contents at the top, preview on the bottom, but the UI is almost identical...

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Here's a little history for those who are interested.

https://lwn.net/Articles/145233/
>In 2001, Kyle Sallee created a source-based linux distribution called Sorcerer GNU/Linux and released it under the GPL. In late 2001 due to differences with Kyle on how to run the project, a fork was created called Lunar Penguin, now known as Lunar Linux. As a result of confrontations with the Lunar developers, Kyle took Sorcerer off the web one night and nobody could update.
>Many of the developers tried to talk Kyle back into continuing the project, but failed. Ryan Abrams and Eric Schabell took over the GPL'd sources and put up a temporary website. At the request of Kyle, the name was changed, and after a vote, Source Mage GNU/Linux was born. On April 4, 2002, sourcemage.org was registered and website content was put up.
>A short while later Kyle rewrote much of his code and released it under a non-GPL license that prevents forking. These three distributions have continued since, however the rest of this article concerns Source Mage.

http://sourcemage.org/History
>Development now continues on 3 separate distros with three distinct goals:
> - Lunar-Linux aims to produce a stable, solid, source-based distro using well-tested software versions.
> - Sorcerer's aims are unclear at this time, but apparently will create a non-free source-based Linux distro to suit Kyle's vision.
> - Source Mage is working to continue rapid development of the sorcery tools and create a 100% free source-based GNU/Linux distro that allows users the maximum amount of freedom and choice possible.

The wikipedia article says that the initial release of Sorcerer GNU/Linux was in 2007, which is obviously wrong.
Although the rest of the article seems legit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcerer_(Linux_distribution)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Mage

Sorcerer appears to be both non-free and non-existent at present time and nobody gives a shit about Lunar Linux (latest release was in 2014).

>>58982211
I love GNU/Linux and free OSes in general, but I think it's impossible that GNU/Linux ever gets above 10%. We can hope, but the average normie is far too technologically retarded even for buntu.

>>58981306
>busybox is better
Busybox is made for embedded systems such as smart TVs and toasters; it's NOT a replacement.

Furthermore it lacks lots of functionality:

- cat has literally no options
- cp is crippled down
- mv is crippled down
- grep is crippled down
- dmesg is crippled down
and the list goes on.

tl;dr ebin meem xDD

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>>58982340
>>58982415
>>58982443
>Source Mage is working to continue rapid development of the sorcery tools and create a 100% free source-based GNU/Linux distro that allows users the maximum amount of freedom and choice possible.
>rapid
>2001+16
>still not "complete"

>>58982482
he was joking

>>58982529
i just woke up ;_;

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>>58982340
>>58982415
>>58982443
>100% free source-based GNU/Linux distro
>official distribution of their package manager includes proprietary, copyrighted audio samples
yeah, good luck with that...

>>58982538
who?

>>58982304
ok. that is one of the ones I was considering using since it is similar enough in UI to WLM that I was used to before I migrated to linux permanently and the setup process doesn't seem as complicated as thunderbird.

Hey /fglt/, take a look at this:

john@orange:~$ ls -la /dev/snd
total 0
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root      340 Feb 16 22:13 .
drwxr-xr-x  19 root root     3500 Feb 16 23:35 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root       80 Feb 16 22:13 by-path
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  2 Feb 16 22:13 controlC0
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  8 Feb 16 22:13 controlC1
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  7 Feb 16 22:13 hwC0D0
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116, 13 Feb 16 22:13 hwC1D0
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  4 Feb 16 22:15 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  3 Feb 16 23:04 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  5 Feb 16 22:15 pcmC0D1p
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  6 Feb 16 22:13 pcmC0D2c
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  9 Feb 16 22:15 pcmC1D3p
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116, 10 Feb 16 22:15 pcmC1D7p
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116, 11 Feb 16 22:15 pcmC1D8p
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116, 12 Feb 16 22:15 pcmC1D9p
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116,  1 Feb 16 22:13 seq
crw-rw----+  1 root audio 116, 33 Feb 16 22:13 timer

Could I write random bytes to any of these devices, to hear a sound on my speakers?

>>58982999
No, but you can print shit directly to alsa, which is basically the same.

yes "I'm a huge faggot." | aplay

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Have an old Acer aspire one, installed arch and a bunch of games (supertux, Bomberman, etc) for my nephew.

Works great, except every time the power cord is plugged/unplugged, there's a fuck loud beep.

How do I disable said beep? Pcspkr and snd_sp modules are both not loaded and blacklisted. Using alsamixer I can reduce the volume but not eliminate it.

>>58982999
at recently as 2007, you could do this, because I remember figuring this out randomly and then for about a month I would just cat and redirect wav files into /dev/dsp
the sound architecture has changed a lot since then

>>58981251
nope sorry

>>58983161
I'm also interested in this.

>>58982443
Sorcerer is dead, long live Source Mage. Also, wikipedia continues to disappoint me, one would expect they at least put the date right.

Too bad for Lunar Linux thou.

>>58983249
filtered

>>58983385
meh i forgot i had it. at least wait until i figure out what software/drivers i need to actually get a corrent cone that works :^)

>>58982443
>that allows users the maximum amount of freedom and choice possible.
So, just like any source based distro?

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>>58983384
>>58982498
>>58982557
(captcha unrelated)

>>58983402
why did they even remove /dev/dsp
any history on this?

>>58983416
What's wrong with your fonts, anon?

>>58983414
yeah, except 90% of it is unmaintained, the project has been alpha for 16 years, the "simple bash script" build system is actually annoying to try and review (at first glance, at least) because they split everything up into separate stages in such a way that it's not always immediately obvious which parts get run when and when you start looking at the little fragments, you realize that there's a lot of stuff missing because it's happening behind the scenes in the "package manager". I mean, nothing wrong with that, but for something that was shilled on here as being "an extremely simple build system using simple shell scripts", I was expecting an extremely simple build system using a single, simple, easy to follow shell script, much like the system used my by distro.

>>58983417
because /dev/dsp was leftover from OSS and for a while OSS and ALSA had to coexist for legacy purposes and then as soon as nobody was writing OSS software anymore and ALSA didn't have to maintain that compatibility layer, they dropped it, and then PulseAudio came along... Sound architecture has historically been one of the less stable things on Linux.

>>58983427
i don't understand your question.

>>58983501
i see, thanks

How do I drop all connections from external networks to a specific port? As in making "invisible" the sshd.

>>58983978
define "external networks"
are you using IPv6?

>>58984111
1.All networks outside my router.
2. I think, is debian default to ipv6?

>>58983978
probably incorrect method. 10.0.0.2-10.0.0.51 are IPs my router issues, but the router ,itself, is excluded

-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,PSH,ACK,URG NONE -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp ! --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -m state --state NEW -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,PSH,ACK,URG FIN,SYN,RST,PSH,ACK,URG -j DROP
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m iprange --src-range 10.0.0.2-10.0.0.51 -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT 

>inb4 bitching and moaning

>>58984212
I tried

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP

and then

iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -s 192.168.29.0/24 -j ACCEPT

but then the connection "timesout"

>>58984203
see, if you just used IPv4, you'd be blocked by default

If I were to move my installation to a new drive, what would be the best way to do that? dd? Fresh installation? Some other drive cloning shit I've never heard of?

>>58977895
Anybody?

>>58984318
IMO a better idea is:
>Leave the nouveau driver installed during installation
>On first boot, install nvidia from CLI by adding
"Systemd.unit=multi-user.target" to kernel boot options.
Nouveau was so bad with my 970, any distro I tried refused to boot unless I forced igpu. Then I installed nvidia from CLI and it worked fine.

I need to allow my internal network to my port 22, how?

I am trying with

iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -s 192.168.29.0/24 -j ACCEPT

but is not working

>>58984227
Don't put in drop rules but make the default one drop BUT only do that after you setup accept rules.

>>58984212
Terrible way of using iptables, would drop the NEW states because with RELATED,ESTABLISED it already assumes the packet is new and now you are double checking ( would save lots of CPU in high bandwidth servers )
Also use default rule to drop instead of multiple lines.

>>58984353
Iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -s 192.168.29.0.24 -j ACCEPT

Likely some other rules trying to block it, check with iptables -nL -v.
Can always iptables -F to flush all rules.

>>58984380
Thanks, I make it work replacing al "-I" to "-A".

Although now is ssh who misbehaves, for some reason don't accept my password and I know I am typing it right.

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>>58984284
What do you want to move? How is your thing set up now? If you are content with just moving your personal files/data/settings, you can do a fresh install and copy everything from your home partition (you did make a separate home partition, right?). If you want to transfer everything, I suppose you can partition the target drive in the same configuration (doesn't have to be same size, but obviously big enough for what you had), mount the drive, copy everything over, then make sure to edit the /etc/fstab on your new drive and either update the UUIDs or change it to /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc. You might still have issues, I'm not 100 on this but I know when I tried to do something mildly similar that involved having major changes in filesystems/physical media, I'm pretty sure systemd had a hissy fit because it refused to even trou mounting the drives because whatever metadata it stored about them had changed and it didn't recognize or trust them. But in theory, a normal system shouldn't complian/care where it gets file from, the whole process should be transparent for the clien for shell scripts.

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How forgiving GNU/Linux regarding something as swapping the HDD/SSD to a different machine?

>>58984530
>worst slut is 3DPD's cosplay
nothing is lost

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>>58984506
Just wanted to change my boot drive to an M.2 NVMe SSD. The only things on my boot drive are programs and config files. I have my pictures and videos and stuff on another hard drive in my computer.
>>58984530
I changed out my motherboard once and I had no issues besides installing new wifi firmware.

I want to use MATE, but I want it to be like Unity.
How can I make it so that when a window is maximized, dragging from the top panel will "grab" the titlebar of the maximized window, just like Unity?

>>58984550
Thanks, I'm getting a new laptop, thinkpad x230.
And I thought it would be better to just swap the SSD back and forth between the x220 and the old laptop which will become a stationary machine.

FUCKING FINALLY!

Apparently "DenyUsers *" can't go hand in hand with an specific "AllowUsers"? WTF?

>>58984603
>using * in a config
it would have been absolutely useless anyway

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-How to remove the descriptions in XFCE application menu?

-How to permanently access shared folders in Manjaro Virtualbox guest as non-root?

>>58984635
Then how would you do it?

>>58984657
when using AllowUsers, the program assume any user not on the list is not allowed.

>>58984603
presumably "DenyUsers" is a blacklist, aka, anything not listed here is allowed, and "AllowUsers" is a whitelist, aka, anything not listed here is disallowed
it makes no sense to have both a whitelist and a blacklist

>>58984682
to explain;
lets say you have;

whitelist bob
blacklist jane

bob is clearly allowed, jane is clealy not allowed
but what about chris? he passes the blacklist, but he's not on the whitelist, so he's still not allowed, so the blacklist here is useless

Not that user with the nvme ssd,

But I also have a cloning q:
Situation:
main ssd with root and home on it
lots of data hd's
swap is on my old 30gb ssd (solely for swap use)

I want to take out my main ssd to make it a portable usb drive for my lappy and clone my root to the 30gb ssd and my home to an empty hd.

Is this possible?

>>58984780
Forgot to add my / and home are different partitions.

how do I make a script execute on startup? I have it in ~/.confing/autostart, it's executable and everything but it just doesn't run. And the GNOME autostart menu only lists "applications" so no way to select it there either

>>58984680
>>58984682
>>58984706
thanks

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Are the vPro features of Intel CPU, fully utilized by the linux kernel?

>>58984856
Can't you add a custom command? I was able to do this in Mint as a beginner.

>>58984921
i want to lick those pits

>>58984928
mint and ubuntu/cinnamon and unity give you a way to do that but not gnome

>>58977992
nigga do you even GPL?

I'm getting an additional SSD tomorrow so I can go back to a dual-boot setup.
Currently running only Debian Jessie which I installed and setup when I was a complete Linux newb, so there's lots of bloat in this install. Decided It'd be simplest and best to install Win7 on my current smaller SSD and then install Testing from the RC2 netinstaller.

Been using xfce so far, which I like well enough for a DE. However i3wm has been intriguing me. I understand I could just install that on top of xfce, and the guide videos linked on i3wm.org also assume that you have a DE installed beforehand. But is that really the way to go? Wouldn't it be more efficient to only install the software that i3 needs? I'm not sure if the Debian installer comes with an option to install i3 and its dependencies instead of a DE. Anyone got experience with this?

>>58984936
you can use cron with @reboot
and you can call your script from ~/.xprofile

>>58985047
>>58984928
>>58984936
>>58984856
fixed it

turns out the file in /autostart needs to be a desktop entry, not a bash script

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>>58984780
>>58984808

>>58985217
yes, you can do that, just delete/resize/move things as needed, and update fstab/grub once you're done to make it bootable

how to I easily move files from my android phone (nexus 6p) to my gnu/linux computer with a usb cable? preferably a way to make it show up in nautilus?

>>58985275
>just delete/resize/move things as needed
In linux with gparted while running? It's this easy?

>>58985323
my pc automatically recognizes my android devices and makes them accessible in the file manager

I'm dual booting wangblows 10, and both operating systems keep getting the time wrong, by plus or minus 1-2 hours.

>>58985330
set correct time in bios

>>58985323
if the computer doesn't automatically recognize the phone and the files, this is what I do

enable developer mode in the phone settings, then look around for a USB setting and enable file transfer if it's disabled. Then when I connect the phone I have a little notification saying "USB for charging", click that and select file transfer and you should be good to go

>>58985030
install gentoo

any way to reconfigure the annoying chromium shortcuts? I'm used to Alt-Shift-F to focus on the wiki search field but in chromium alf+f opens the menu. Shit is infuriating

>>58985327
>In linux with gparted while running? It's this easy?
not terribly difficult
yes, you can copy the contents of / and /home while they're mounted (doing so isn't really perfectly ideal, but safe if anything you need saved has been saved)

what i'd do:
1. delete the ntfs partition on sda, replace with btrfs/ext4 partition, mount it somewhere
2. umount swap from sde, delete everything and make a new partition for root, format to btrfs/ext4/f2fs, mount it somewhere. make a new swap partition if you still want one there
3. rsync the contents of your current root to the new root mount, do the same for /home
4. unmount the new /home, mount it under the new root's home folder, bind mount /sys, /proc, and /dev into the new root as well
5. chroot into the new root, and from here install grub to sde, and update grub's config and fstab
6. unmount all the new stuff and consider testing that it's bootable in QEMU, that should be it

I'm stumped at trying to make an opensuse live usb. I've tried
# dd bs=4M if=/opensuse.iso of=/dev/sdc1
and the arch wiki's suggestion, which adds sync to the end. After selecting the usb from the bios, it gives an error too quick to read and goes straight to grub.

>>58985537
Things like rufus or unetbootin don't work?

>>58985537
>of=/dev/sdc1
Don't write to a partition, write to the entire device.
So use /dev/sdc instead of /dev/sdc1.

>>58985429
install source mage

>>58985435
>chromium
remove the botnet

>>58985429
install source mage

>>58985429
install smeagol

>>58985421
>>58985327
neither of these seem to work. the phone has the right settings, but it just doesn't show up at all

>>58985629
what does the phone do when you connect it?

>>58985641
it lets out a cute moan

Make sure your phone is not locked

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>>58985555
no

>>58985666
>>58985641
>>58985629
fixed it by using android-file-transfer package

>>58985666
why, satan?

I still keep getting the wrong time in windows and gnu/linux. My bios time is correct, how do I force linux to use it?

>>58985666
hello satan, pls bring hell down to earth and make all humans suffer as much as me

>>58985448
Too hard for me at point 3 thanks anyway for your time

>>58985748
windows likes to set hardware to regional time, woonix likes to use UTC so do

ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC /etc/localtime

or something

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>he came into this thread, nothing to fear nothing to hide
>attrached a rare, smug, pepe ready for a fight
>He asked me: best lightweight distro, and easy to use?
>I told him: source mage, faggot, GNU/Linuuux
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!

Arch is just a stepping stone.

>>58985758
just;

sudo rsync -avhx /. /media/newroot/
sudo rsync -avhx /home/. /media/newhome/

you can use cp instead if you like (cp -avx)

"rsync" might seem complicated, but it's more like an advanced cp than anything else

>>58985796
Towards?

>>58985796
Backwards?

>>58985812
Pure fucking mayhem.

>>58985812
source magic

>>58985814
Sometimes you need to go a few steps back to see the full picture.

>>58985812
arch teaches you about linux; you install your system just the way you want
arch follows the arch-way; KISS, simplicity and minimalism, resulting in a simple, lightweight and fast system with fresh packages unlike debian
arch has millions of programs just at your fingertips thanks to the amazing aur
and not to forget: the arch wiki, the best documention you can ever get in linux

>>58985860
GNU/Linux*
>>58985846
kek

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HOW THE FUCK do I block a website in OpenWrt

do i have to use iptables or a proxy or some shit or is there an easy way in luci

>>58985860
100% dank

Granted, the wiki is actually great, but that's all IMHO.

>>58985860
install source mage

>>58985902
put this in /etc/hosts

0.0.0.0   boards.4chan.org

ufw babby here, is there a good guide you guys can suggest for learning how to use iptables?

>>58985930
I want to block it in my router though

Is there a way to do it through the interface? I can't seem to find uit

>>58985938
entering 192.168.0.1 in the address bar might give you the web page for router settings

>>58985945
flash router firmware
install netbsd on it

>>58985965
I have OpenWRT installed.

>>58985860
>2009+8
>not using source mage on server and desktop
Also I recently found https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CurlFtpFS underwhelming.

>>58985902
if you want to use iptables then block any connection to the website IP (or mutiple IPs), this will stop any connection towards said website for any computer connected to the router:

iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d website_ip --dport 443 -j REJECT

this will not stop them if they use a proxy/tor/vpn/encryptedtunnel obviously.

If i open a dropbear instance in openwrt can any faggot ssh into my router?

if i select the interface as lan does that only mean people connected will be able to?

>>58986343
actually, drop the

 --dport 443 

, no reason to specify the http port.

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>>58986343
>>58986375
im just doing this now

>>58986391
heh, they can just set different dns to "bypass" that.

>>58986412
in router hosts file?

>>58986422
I'm not sure, altering the hosts file on the router will prevent it to correctly resolve those hostnames, but if a local machine is able to do it anyway (by settings different dns servers) then it should be able to connect.

new thread

>>58986679
>>58986679
>>58986679