Fuchsia

Where were you when the GPL was kill?

>>58955513
I was at work. My work is to sell lemonade. When suddenly phone was ring.
"GPL is kill"
"No."

>>58955464
Will this deprecate Java is what I wonder.

>>58955464

Good, Linux is legacy trash anyway.

I'm already colaborating with the Redox project, it's the future open source OS for all our desktops.

>>58955464
How much datamining and telemetry do you reckon this will contain?

>>58955464
Not long ago their target was Go against Dalvik.
They just started to fix their JIT compiler and suddenly flush everything down the toilet? Their stupid CEO must really scared of Oracle, but this way they will be cucked.

>>58955513
Google hates GPL?
Another reason added to use GPL/MPLv2.

Why not use linux or bsd?

>>58955513
I was sitting at home eating foot skin when stallman ring
'you're 4 essential freedoms are kill'
'no'

and you????

>>58955584
>Google hates GPL
Is that why they're always releasing so much shit under the GPL?

Oh, look, another project for Google to abandon as soon as people start using it.

>>58955593
Why stick to old OS design paradigms?

>>58955593
Maybe NIH bullshit. Bionic is an openbsd fork.

>>58955670
For example? I only know "MIT" and other "support denial" friendly licenses.

>>58955464
You are about 6 months late to the party and fuchsia is dead and finished. The lead developer went full SJW and gave up. We are waiting for an official announcement from google that they are ditching the OS like hundreds of pet projects they create each year.

RIP

>>58955560
<= Windows 10.

It will only be a matter of time before something like CyanogenMod appears for Fuchsia. Even in the worst case scenario we will still be able to run HenriettaMod on developer-friendly devices like the Nexuses.

>>58955673
>>58955691
wtf is go safe?

>>58955691
>The lead developer went full SJW and gave up
>SJW
>Google

Really makes you think.

>>58955543
>>58955543
Rust fanboy myself, but Redox is guaranteed to be slower than Linux's perfornance, the drivers run in the userspace

>>58955699
go is safe ONLY when they officialy make android compatible go runtime

>>58955691
>The lead developer went full SJW and gave up
[citation needed]
>they are ditching the OS
Same. Looking at https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror they have a metric shitton of commits across dozens of repos just in the last 24 hours.

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>>58955674
Why not hurd?

>>58955699
They use it internally and the lead devs would keep working on it even if Google ditched it, so yes.

>>58955728
>57 "developer"

At this point it's a hobby project compared to linux or freebsd.

>>58955689
>For example?
DeppMind Lab.

>>58955768
>developer
more like paid code monkeys

>>58955703
GTFO monolithicuck

>>58955793
>DeppMind
Is that like Being John Malkovich?

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>>58955703
Heh, such pre-Liedtke thinking.

This was fixed in L4 / 2nd generation µkernels.

We're in the third already.

>>58955733
LMAO HURD.

They're on GNU Mach. That's a 1st generation µkernel. They failed to move past it.

>>58955845
>This was fixed in L4 / 2nd generation µkernels.
How?

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>>58955793
https://deepmind.com/search/?query=GPL

>>58955703
>Redox is guaranteed to be slower than Linux's perfornance
They should do https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript

>>58955858
Liedtke's principle of minimality.

See this talk for further details.

https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/event/microkernel_microkernel_for_embedded_devices/

>>58955862
https://github.com/deepmind/lab/blob/master/LICENSE

>>58955871
Thanks.

>>58955858
Microkernels are slow and Elvis didn’t do no drugs

http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2016/01/01/0/

>>58955868
Stop advertising your blog.

>>58955872
>Disclaimer: This is not an official Google product.

>>58955885
https://developers.google.com/open-source/projects

>>58955857
>They're on GNU Mach
so is os x

>>58955977
Nope, OS X uses XNU. Mach is only a part of the kernel and it has nothing to do with GNU.

>>58955977
And so is IOS.

HURD/OSX/IOS are all garbage.

Why no swift support?

>>58955543
Is Redox the new Ubuntu?

>>58956068
You mean an artificial, forced fad hyped by a millionaire with no real passion for technology?

Yeah nah, Redox is made by simple real geeks.

>>58956099
install debian netinstall if you want geeks.

>>58955543
>redox
It looks like shit.

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>>58956337
>systemd
No, thanks!

>>58956405
What's so bad about systemd?

>>58956405
What's so bad about systemd?

>>58956403

Of course it does, it's literally in early embryonic stage.

>>58956405
install gentoo

>>58956425
Closed source is bad, but too much open source is even worse. Mostly a meme.

>>58956422
>>58956425
Red Hat's slowly taking Linux over. As systemd does more there are less non-systemd programs used, eventually there will be no gahnoo/Linux, it'll be systemd/Linux

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>>58956447
>closed source is bad

>>58956499
The future of Linux probably looks more like Alpine than RHEL, with no GNU, no systemd and running in a container somewhere. The container host doesn't need systemd, either, and can even be FreeBSD.

>>58956816
>i hate GNU
Linux already used in containers and toybox/busybox are limited tools and can't be mainstream. It's not like their target was to replace coreutils, just be a lightweight alternative.

>>58956968
I did not say anything about my preferences or attitude towards GNU, only about what I expect to happen. It is evident that a lot of people running servers, i.e., the majority of Linux users, do not need more than BusyBox.

Nice reddit copy pasta

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>>58955674
>new age vegetarian black cock sucking manlets dictating new paradigms
>this is how it ends

how about no.
We already have to put up with some random bitches that think that contribute by commenting stupid ass politically correct shit on peoples code and some non contributing attention whore sex changing faggots running amok.

>>58956997
Majority of servers use glibc and coreutils. Busybox is for embedded. Alpine is just an option for the containers, but not really the best if it comes to compatibility or features.

>>58957001
You're the one who let Leddit occupy her mind, anon. This story was at the top of Hacker News a few hours ago.

>>58956968
If by "limited" you mean "not bloated", then yeah.

>>58957043
Dude, use it for awhile first and you will get it or at least check what is Alpine linux.

>replace Android
dead on arrival.

iOS and Android are well established brands with shitload of 3rd party support.
How on earth is google going to make up for it?
Many tried, all of them failed to carve even the slightest piece of the cake.

>>58957056
I use OpenBSD.

>>58957083
I don't care.

>>58957037
I expect servers to migrate pretty thoroughly to containers in the next 5-10 years. We will probably see a lot more static linking, too, so a distro's libc version won't matter as much.

>>58955670
they used apache for most of their projects.
What exactly have they released under gpl?

>>58955464
> Open source
> not free
I see why they're doing it.

>>58957089
Enjoy your bloat.

I bet it'll be more succesful than GNU/Turd

>>58957160
Thanks. :^)

>>58957199
>>58957199
Easy to accomplish.

I'd say they're farther along already, by glancing at their repository activity. HURD was at no point this active.

>>58955529
Kek

Google has always hated Linux

freetards wont support it, consumer will not care.
again its a nobody's OS made by google, like chrome os

>>58955464
Microkernels are superior. They don't have all the bloat and cruft that monolith kernels suffer from.

>>58959199
Of course, since it's GPLd so they cannot just take, they have to give something back.

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>>58959295
More proof that communism is the superior way of life.

>>58955464
haha, no.
Use larger botnet than Windows?
I would use windows instead of this...

>>58958593
>tfw they got farther than GNU in months
top kek

>>58959291
They have the "bloat" elsewhere.

>>58959335
If GPL is gommunismo, therefore it's a common good, why can't i do whatever i want with it. If the relicensing under closed source or linking with GPL incompatible software isn't allowed, and the top of that there is a copyright on it, why is it communism? The only quasi-communist thing is the public domain.

>>58958593
Now compare it to lkml as some retard want to replace it everywhere.

>>58955464
Sounds great. Dart is an amazing language that could use the popularity and the fewer devices run Linux the better.

>>58955464
Unless it can run all Android apps, it's dead.
That said, even if it can, I don't see myself using it.

>>58959368
>why can't i do whatever i want with it
Because you might not contribute back to it and keep any improvements you made to yourself or even worse sell them like the dirty little capitalist you are.

Now kindly check yourself into the nearest gulag.

>>58955464
>Google is looking to replace Linux with a microkernel
OK, let's see how this go
>Java for the apps with Dart (but with support for C, C++, Go, Python and Rust)
Good, let's see if Java finally dies
>in a new mobile OS.
So Android becomes FuckCIA. We already knew that Android is full botnet. The question is whether forks can be made and installed on said devices without the botnet code.

Considering Google's recent track record it will probably be a huge failure and abandoned in a few years. I hope it succeeds though, it has a decent license and I would assume Google would make it somewhat POSIX compliant.

>>58959461
I will not contribute anyway.

>>58955464
they won't replace it though.

the chink hardware manufacturers barely manage to release code for linux. no one is going to waste time supporting some abomination that google will be able to close off within the next 3-4 years after like 4-7 companies publish their own nonfree, shitty ass fork of it.

>>58959497
>decent license
Enjoy your zero and unfixable support after 6 months. Didn't you learn from android?

>>58959522
What does that have to do with the license? It's open source, it would be worse if it was closed source, that's all I was trying to say.

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>>58955464
>and Java


sage

>>58959497
Came here to say that.

Also, I don't think we've really resolved the microkernel vs monolithic kernel issue, and I would like to see two dominant FOSS kernels -- one of each -- and let them battle it out over the next few years. I'd like to be able to choose either type and know it has a huge base of support.

Microkernels have had some performance weaknesses. But microkernels also tend to be more robust and secure. Time will tell which will be the more important goal in the long run.

>>58959554
the permissive licensing ensures that your shitty phone will ship with probably hundreds of nonfree blobs that will likely break on ABI changes to the "FOSS core" and manufacturers will basically tell you to fuck off.

>>58955464
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Magenta, is in fact, Fuchsia/Magenta, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Fuchsia plus Magenta.

>>58959554
Check the toybox story and busybox license breaches. Google tries to destroy GPL from their system, to make the development cheaper rather fucking fixing the fragmentation. Don't be evil my ass!

>>58959592
And the alternative would be proprietary software, how would that be better?

>>58955464
Is it at least a free license/fsf approved?

>>58959644
>License
>Various, including Revised BSD, MIT and Apache 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Fuchsia

>>58955703
Doesn't follow.

http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2016/01/01/0/

>>58955464
Google canceled the project.

I wouldn't look for a desktop, Material Design Linux distribution by Google.

Fuck shia?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIN6Ciw1Ws

>>58959718
Google said there wasn't an "Andromeda OS" or a merger between Android and ChromeOS. They're still developing Fuchsia. They didn't say Fuchsia won't replace Android and/or ChromeOS. There are drivers for the Nexus 5X's SoC in the repos, which suggests they're targeting phones.

>>58955464
>Java

Glad to see this won't be a challenge for 99.9% of their employee base

>>58959295
What happens is that they write their own libraries and programming languages and operating systems. Basically the GPL has lost.