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>tfw want to go to college >don't have the latest

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>tfw want to go to college
>don't have the latest macbook

What am I supposed to do?
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>redpilled guy in the yellow on the left using paper and pen
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>>58952816
grow up
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>>58952816
They get them for free you idiot. Can't you see they're literally all the same model and size?
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>>58953164

This is a pretty fucking stupid argument to be honest. Do you have any proof that they got them for free other than your guess? Also after looking at it for a few seconds I found 3 different models, two bigger and one smaller. Also how do you even explain the colors being different in some computers?

>Hey Apple? Sell us 10,000 Macs in bulk to give them to the students k?
>Oh but don't forget to throw in a pink one and a few purple ones k?
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>>58953164
>same model
>same size

you mean 90% of their lineup?

and no one gets free apple products. their fucking student discount is a shitty 10%
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>>58953218
>Also how do you even explain the colors being different in some computers?
those are skins you retard
notice how only basic bitches have different color laptops.
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>>58953228

>Oh but don't forget to throw in one pink "skins" (whatever that means) and two purple ones k?

Now everything makes sense.
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>>58953218
>being this fucking triggered
back to led dit, neckbeard
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>>58952816
UCSD doesn't have this problem. What school do you go to?
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>>58952816
There is one in the crowd uses HP and good ol' pen and paper.
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>>58953218
>>58953254
>what is a clip on plastic cover
>i dunno lol

>>58953223
If they pay hundreds of thousands per student on tuition plus room and board the university can afford to give them macbook pros. Also the model differences ARE noticeable faggot.
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>>58952816
you retain more using a pencil and paper and a bit of your own shorthand
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>>58952816
accept the fact you will never get laid

Just kidding it will be fine
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>tfw using an 8 year old asus with ubuntu 14.04
One of the screen hinges is fucked and I have to use a usb wifi adapter because the internal one is slagged
Still faster than my Windows 7 machine.
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>2017
>not out-hipstering all liberal art fags with a 2002 Powerbook
step up nigga
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>>58953286
Hello fellow triton, /warren/ reporting here
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>>58953164
Colleges sell em with a student discount.
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>>58952840
>not using modern technology to help you organize, take and archive your notes

I prefer having a search function rather than looking through 40 papers just to find what I'm looking for.
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>not using a notebook and pencil in college to constantly practice visualizing algorithms by drawing diagrams
>not using a notebook and pencil in college to constantly practice your ability to write code that compiles and succeeds even in edge cases without the crutch of an ide
>not using a notebook and pencil in college to constantly practice exactly the whiteboard programming skills you'll need to demonstrate in an interview for a top tier software engineering position

It's like you don't even want a six figure job in Silicon Valley.
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>>58953218
dbrand: it's not a product, it's a culture.
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>>58952816
Get an hp envy.
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I use my ThinkPad in class. Always gets some looks.
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>>58953332
Hi, Apple Certified Mac Technician here to tell you that you're wrong. The majority of college kids buy 13" MacBook Airs or MacBook Pros, as they're the perfect size for use in class. Both models look identical if you can only see the back of the display. The 11" Air is too small, and the 15" Pro jumps the price too much for parents footing the bill to justify. This is of course referering to the older lineup from when this photo was taken, and not the newest MacBook revisions.
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>>58953717
That garbage is built to sell. Not built to last.
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>>58953332
>If they pay hundreds of thousands per student on tuition plus room and board the university can afford to give them macbook pros.
No uni ever does this. They might raffle off shit but they don't give students shit for free just for being students. If you want a scholarship, write an essay and do something to earn it. Unis just try to suck every dollar they can out of students.
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>>58953735
Mine's running fine after 6 years of use. Even used it for 3d rendering and animation shit for a while.
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>>58953718
>tfw CDE theme
my thinkpad looks ancient, probably
i got asked once "hay is that windows 95??"
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>>58953766
Maybe I should I make the Windows install look ancient too for laughs.
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>be american
>aimlessly jump straight from high school to university
>"oh, i'll just figure it out later :)))"
>"I WANT THE REAL COLLEGE EXPERIENCE"
>pay $25,000 a year in tutition
>mandatory dorms
>no cooking allowed in dorms
>mandatory meal plans
>mandatory macbook pro
>can't buy used books because you need the ACTIVATION CODE to do your homework
>come out 6 years later with a shit degreeand a lifetime of uncancellable student debt

People will defend this.
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>>58952816
Get a PowerBook G4 and enjoy the confusion when people see how thick it is
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>>58952816
Bring a thinkpad with you
[/spoiler]And hang yourself afterwards because you're in a hipster environment for at least 4 years[spoiler]
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>>58953828
university is a mistake
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>>58953828
Here's my experience.

>Finish HS
>Take a couple years off
>have no money and decide to go to university
>local state uni, so cheap (about 5000 a year)
>books are reasonable
>don't have to live on campus
>will end up with around 10k in debt thanks to Pell Grants and scholarships
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>>58952816
Get Surface
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Do thinkpad users get bullied?
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>go to any university in the country for free
>if there's competition the students with the better highschool grades get in
>get about $300/mo from the government to cover book, bus card and whatever
>live with parents for free
>graduate debt free

MUH COMMUNISM!!!!

nah, turns out free education is a decent investment for a country
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i prefered this
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>>58953671
I use a samsung tablet with an s pen. It works the same, dog.
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>>58953671
>not using a laptop with a stylus
>not typing what you can and flipping into tablet mode when you need to draw diagrams
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>>58953721
wrong. you are no technician, you are a "genius"
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When I was in college, I saw a fair amount of Windows laptops. Even a few surfaces. I think >>58953164
is right, this was probably taken at a college where a Macbook is included with your tuition.
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>>58954255
Geniuses are the in person customer support people you see at Apple stores. There are also third party repair shops that Apple certifies to repair Macs.
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used thinkpad
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>learn just fine all my life with notebooks
>suddenly im supposed to use a computer during lectures

~ but why ~
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>>58953828
>>58953879

i read that tutors often want you to buy their books for homework, which makes up like 30% of your grade.

is this true? how can this be allowed?
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>>58953657
>he still takes notes in 2017
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I hate how most colleges have an Apple store on campus. Both colleges I've been to had an Apple section right in the book store, and nowhere on campus sold PCs.

If I were in charge of a school, I'd encourage teachers to use Google services and students to use Chromebooks so that they don't go into debt buying Macbooks.
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>>58953218
That pic from MizzoU or University of Missouri is pretty well known and old.
http://mediashift.org/2011/07/why-missouri-j-school-should-rescind-its-apple-laptop-requirement206/
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>>58954165
Depends what education it is. STEM and Trades are good investments with high average return, but Liberal arts and other shit are a waste. We are talking about return in taxes and GDP for the government here
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>>58952816
Stuff changes so fast. Graduated 9? years ago and noone had laptops at school. Granted they were still trash then.
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>>58952816
buy an Acer
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>>58952816
90% of everyone in that pic is checking facebook.
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>2016
>still using laptops
>not having a tablet for on-the-go activities like note taking, checking emails, watching anime
>not having a desktop back home for heavy duty coding, gayming, and video editing
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>>58954351
>actively promoting a botnet
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>>58954351
Convenience aside, why embrace the botnet so fully?
(Redirect them to /tpg/ and teach them Linux instead)
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>>58954464
Just trading one botnet for another.
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>>58952816
why do americans have such shit haircuts
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>>58954449
Why not just use a phone?
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In my country only business people have laptops. I don't see students with Macbooks, at best I see them with iPhones.
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>bring thinkpad with i3 WM
>get qt college gf instantly
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>>58954464
No mainstream consumer OS will ever not be a botnet. As soon as it picks up traction in the market place, the government will dedicate a lot of resources to compromising it.

>>58954472
>Convenience aside
Convenience does matter.
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>>58953350
This
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>>58953223
we get free apple products, we get to borrow macbook air 2014's for 3 years
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>>58954449
>tablet for note taking
but it doesn't have a keyboard. note taking with a touchscreen keyboard or fingerpainting is painfully slow.

If I just wanted to write shit manually like with a pen, I'd just bring some fucking paper.

>checking emails
Phone does it just as well, unless you have to respond, in which case, both are just about equally shit anyway.

>watching anime
Am I meant to prop it up against a thing or hold it the whole time? Seems awkward.
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>>58954316
wait what? Do they really pull that shit off in major Uni's?
I go to my local state college and they dont pull that crap with tutors, just get the book for the class (that they actually use for the class) and do the work.
Im a Civil Engineering/Surveying Major and if you don't have the books, you are super duper fucked, because you have to learn multiple Drawing/CADD software on top of the maths required (Statics and Strengths, Geodetics, ASTM Metals, etc)
I always laugh at the UCF kiddies who blindly jump in with their friends without multiple scholarships or insight into what the degree actually has in store or being worth the paywall.
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>>58952816
heres what you do
First get some Balsa wood (it is easy to work with
and light to carry) Now you make two boxes From it that will be the top and bottom parts of the laptop. Measure the latest apple fad gadget you want to emulate and then go to work with making your own. Make it 4 times bigger than theirs. Put a giant apple logo on it
Take up 5 seats with it. On the part that is supposed to be a screen put a photo of a woman with huge tits on it. Spray the other surfaces silver.
COMPLETELY TAKE THE FUCKING PISS
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>>58953828
> tfw French university is free
> tfw litterally no debt
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>>58955265
>be french
>get hit by a truck
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>>58955265
>free university
>can't spell literally
Didn't see that coming.
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>>58955271
>>58955278
Butthurt detected
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>>58955271
>be american
>get shot
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>>58955294
Nah, I'm just making fun of your poor spelling.
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>>58954464
>Desktop
>2017

Fuckin NEET
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>>58952816
>What am I supposed to do?

end yourself
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>>58953657
Wow you must be this "intelligent" type of person that I always heard of.
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>>58952816
I'm a german computer science student and 70% of my fellow students, including me, use a Thinkpad with a GNU/Linux distribution on it
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>>58955982
>GNU/Linux
>>>/g/fglt
you should stay in your containment general
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>>58956042
I'm not even a freetard
That's just how the majority refers to Linux at my university
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>>58955982
Those 3.8% market share have to come from somewhere.
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>>58952816
Time to start selling ass, ho
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>>58956090
I agree wit you that GNU/Linux is inferior to Windows and OSX when it comes to home desktop pc for entertainment and multimedia
I have a Windows 10 desktop PC at home as well

But in terms of programming and actual work with computers, GNU/Linux is very efficient
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>>58955982
i wish i was german
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>>58953828
>>mandatory dorms
>>no cooking allowed in dorms
What kind of place are these american colleges trying to be? They sound more like a fucking boarding school than a university
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>>58953828
Ohio state University student here. Can confirm most.
>people are not given direction from counselors in their field
>It's ok anon, just take whatever you like :)))
>First two college credit years you need to be in a dorm (I avoided by going to a satellite campus)
>No shop on campus takes cash, just card or BUCK ID DEBIT LOAD IT UP WE TAKE A CHUNK OUT OF IT FOR 'SERVICE' card
>they do whatever the fuck they can for you to buy their overpriced 'custom' loose leaf textbooks. Mostly for online activation because you get an e-text but can't buy the code separate most of the time

Fuck this liberal hellhole. Thankfully I'm playing the 'I'mma jew stop oppressing me' card and shit actually works. Thank you convenient name and government handouts.
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>>58952816
>gaming raputop
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>>58953657
>Taking notes at all
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>>58953828
you nailed it anon.American uni culture is fucking cancerous
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>>58952816
Can someone please throw a grenade into the auditorium. Absolutely disgusting
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in germany:
>engineerfags
surface
>bussinessfags
xps
>computerfags
thinkpad
>rest
macbook
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>>58956131
>But in terms of programming and actual work with computers, GNU/Linux is very efficient

pfffffffffthspppthr hahahahaha
try a PC-BSD distribution sunny
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>>58952816
>go to university
>dont pay any money
feelsgoodman
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>>58953828

I study for free and I even get paid if I have good grades by my comfy socialist state. And yet pol cucks will still defend capitalism.
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Call me a grandpa Slav (graduated CS in early 00's in Eastern Europe) but if a lecture is easy to take notes from using a laptop, it's probably a shitty lecture. An proper _university_ lecture (as opposed to a vocational school class), especially in CS, is supposed to have a fuckton of math, formal proofs (inb4 I'm a TeX guru!), diagrams, graphs and other stuff that's impossible to note down quickly with a keyboard. If the subject requires some interaction with a computer, that's what you have labs and your fucking home for. Also: the noise of a hundred faggots typing simultaneously must be unbearable.
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>>58958482
german lawfag with thinkpad here
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>>58953503
My backup laptop is a 2003 powerbook.
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>>58953828
Or
>Be American
>Go straight from HS to a non shit university
>Study engineering
>Cook in dorms
>Can live off campus
>Get degree
>Make lodsofemone
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Everyone I saw with a computer at my lectures was either not listening to the prof and dicking around on the internet, or semi-listening to the prof and working on something else.

Pencil and paper and paying attention just werks
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>>58952816
that one based dude with a pencil and paper
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>>58952816
enjoy not being a faggot i guess
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>mfw participation is part of the grade
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>>58953721
>Apple Certified Mac Technician
Do you enjoy throwing out old/damaged computers because you're too stupid to fix them?

Also, macbooks are perfect in 0% of cases. KYS shill.
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>>58954316
I had a professor that had us spend 100$ to buy a book that only she had done just for her class.
I had to sell my PS3 to buy that book.:(
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>>58952816
Dumb fuck macfags look like faggot hivemind like dumb nigger cattle.
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Why not just buy the HP equivalent of the X220 for University? still the same build quality and connectivity that you come to expect from a business class notebook but in a form factor appeasing to normies.
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>>58958619
It is insufferable.
No one is even taking notes, EVERYONE is on Reddit or chatting on Skype/Discord. The only people listening have a notebook and pencil, and this is a lecture where the prof draws nonstop diagrams
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>>58953164
>>58954261
This is at Mizzou. We don't get free laptops here, just a student discount like everywhere else.
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>>58953828
>weeb shit
>retarded shit like mandatory dorm and lunch
Checks out
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>>58952816

In my course, the people using laptops during lectures suddenly stop showing up after a few weeks.

People either just sit and listen, or take notes with pen and paper.
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>>58953223
>no one gets free apple products

actually, lots of professors get free apple products.
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>>58952816
>America, land of the slave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu9J1C3QcmI
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>tfw czech engineerfag with Thinkpad and pencil
>literally the norm around here
feels good not live in a (((progressive))) shithole
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>>58952816
Contact the college and find out if your intended major requires software that is exclusive to OS X.
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>>58956182
These American colleges are a threat to our freedom
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>>58959065
?

how to read?
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I just go to first lecture to get bibliography and website address of mr science man. Even if I was latex kang I woulfn't be able to write down every equation, proof, chart etc.
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A lot of people fool around on their laptops because attendance is mandatory and they can't take the tests if they've been absent too many times.

They're studying the material on their own time and they're forced to go to class because the uni treats them like kids.
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Buy the latest one or you'll fall behind.

MacBooks are the most productive laptops because of the trackpad (which is even more productive than using a mouse because of gestures)

People who own MacBooks stay ahead of the game because of the high productivity
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>>58953332
Uni, at least in america, will never give students anything free. They go out of their way to drain as much money from you as possible.
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>>58959812
>All students at MIT, Harvard etc funded by the institution
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>>58953828
Explain to me how american university isn't just adult day care.

None of this sounds conductive for a quality education.
A lot of people mention that you go to college "for the connections" and not to learn, so it really does seem like a fucking daycare.
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Kill me. This is my school. I've never seen this high density of macfags.
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Buy an older one

Normies can't tell the difference. Unless you get a color that's exclusive to a so and so or unless they're actually a geeky loser shit that pretends to have social clout for owning a macbook (aka /g/ user) nobody can tell a 2013 retina from a 2017 retina. It's like thinkpads

Neckbeard says 'is that an x220? zomg'
Everybody else thinks it must be the same T420 they used in school
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>>58959925
all the modern macbooks no longer have the glowing apple, so you're going to look pretty poor with a glowing apple macbook.

It's the little things that give it away.
Nobody wants to look like they bought a used macbook off ebay just so they can "fit in".
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>>58955982
>german
>gun
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>>58952840
>tfw writing something down with pen and paper helps commit it to memory better than mindlessly typing 100 wpm
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>>58959983
Proof here
>A geeky loser shit
>a geeky loser shit on 4chan who probably thinks he isn't a geeky loser shit

I told my gf new macbooks don't glow and she didn't even know. People don't notice the little things because they're not computer nerds like us.
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>>58960027
also it's comfier to read
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>>58960063
yup, also my handwriting is bad but when I take my time and make it look neat, I can remember things even better
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>>58959242
This.
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>>58959749
unreal bait
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>>58955982
Student at www.cs.ox.ac.uk here, and while it's definitely not 70%, it isn't unusual at all to see ThinkPad+GNU/Linux around. I'd say it's a pretty even split between ThinkPads, standard Windows consumer laptops and Macs.

The graduate students get /comfy/ Dell Latitudes.
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>>58953828
>implying I fell for the college meme
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>>58952816
That'll be some faggy liberal arts program. If you do a real degree you won't see many Macs. I got a BSc in Mathematics and about 10% of my class had Macs, and out of the ones that did most of them had it at least partially funded by the university. Most of us just had a cheap laptop for taking notes and writing assignments. I have a good desktop I don't give a shit about my laptop.
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>>58960390
>attending college makes you a dishonest, snooty elitist

good lord. this is beyond retarded
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>>58960516
Kelly comics is a satire of political cartoons
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>>58960524

It's really hard to single Kelly as a parody when actual cartoonists do shit like this
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>>58960622
Kelly at least confirms that he is satirizing political cartoons

The real deal being more ridiculous is just an unfortunate reality
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>>58954316

It might be scummy but the argument for it actually makes sense. If you can't trust your teacher to write a book then why are you trusting him your education?
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>>58953657
>through 40 papers just to find what I'm looking for

How in the fuck are you this disorganized?
Also, pen and paper has been proven to make ideas stick better than typing.
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>>58953828
>and a lifetime of uncancellable student debt
Dosent like nearly 50% of all american students default on their college debt?
I think i read something like this.
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>>58960955
it doesn't go away, they're not like regular loans
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>>58953828
>"oh, i'll just figure it out later :)))"
>still have no idea what the fuck im doing 2 years in
>drop out because im just throwing away money
>been mostly NEET for 4 years on and off
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>>58952816
Do you even need a laptop for school? Pen & Paper are better in class, and you can just use a library or computer lab or just wait until you get home to use a desktop.
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>>58960955

Student debt is already being bought and traded in the derivatives market like mortgages were leading to the 2008 subprime crisis. We learn nothing.
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>>58959027
Reading this from inside Mort's right now.
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>>58955265
>tfw best universities in the world
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>>58954205
is thinkpad a meme? The only place I see it is 4chan.
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>>58958482
I'm a computerfag currently using a mac, but am considering surface or xps heavily.
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>>58961166
It's a business laptop, it's what companies buy. Ugly but functional.
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>>58959812
Even colleges that provide laptops aren't doing it for free. You're fucking paying tuition still. They just bundle more with it.
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>>58960120
Eyy another czech en/g/ fag, what uni?
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>>58952840
>redpilled
/pol/ please leave
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>>58955278
>be American
>only knows one language

Brainlet detected.
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>>58961753
>be anywhere else in the world
>have to learn english to be successful

Perks of running the world, you know?
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>tfw going to university
>study computer science
>Thinkpads everywhere
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>>58961780
You have to learn a metric ton of things to be successful; if a language is too much for you, my condolences.
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>>58954856
Borrow =/= free
>>58959104
professors =/= students
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>>58961816
amerifags can focus on learning other skills since we don't have to worry about language. Rest of the world will never catch up.
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>>58961852
>amerifags can focus on learning other skills
like putting eggs in the fridge and sitting on the roofs wearing red plastic cups?
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At my uni, I haven't seen anyone using anything else than a macbook besides engineering students who are always greasy indian kids that carry their 20 pound alienware laptops everywhere
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>>58953828
>mfw never actually had to use a textbook in the 2.5 years i've been studying EE
>roughly 300€/year "tuition" which includes public transport and cheaper meals at the cafeteria (which is actually good, believe it or not)
>so glad i fell for the meme of being born in a 'socialist' country :^)
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>>58961913
Have fun paying taxes.. You're attitude will change. It always does with older generations.

You also don't understand economics enough to see that American universities are literally expensive because the government got so involved.
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>>58961913
I feel you, comrade. Free education is pretty much the only good thing about the country. And I full well intend to jump border into the first world after graduation.
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I use a surface book, but then again I also have done paid internships so I could afford it.

I would say MacBooks were better, but I tried the newer one and it was awful in the hardware aspect. I would rather suffer with windows and use their Linux subsystem than have to suffer with the non-existent key travel on the new MBP.
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>>58952816

F U C K M E
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>tfw go to university in nordic socialist utopia
>tfw university gives you a decent laptop with pre-installed socialist OS: linux
>tfw government gives you $540 a month
>tfw government gives you a cheap house
>tfw government pays for 80% of your daily meals
>tfw you only pay 50% for public transport of nice nordic quality
>tfw you don't pay a dime for your PhD, only get socialist utopiabux
>tfw internet is fast, unlimited, and cheap
>tfw software dev salary is enough to afford tesla
>tfw free healthcare, including dental

I don't understand you americucks, why are you not revolting yet?
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>>58961990
you're a slave to your country. Why would you want that?
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>>58961990
Simple
My degree is worth more than yours and when I graduate I will get 10x more of my money after taxes than you will.

The only people who complain about debt are people who got a degree in a useless field.
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>>58952816
My computer engineering classes have no mac users.
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>>58953828
Adding to this.
>Mandatory paid homework passes
>If you don't buy them you lose 15% of your final grade

Dropped out hearing that actually.
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>>58962021
He also doesn't understand that college here is so expensive because of government intervention. It's funny that when you subsidize, guarantee, and make debt undefaultable that debt explodes and colleges get more expensive. Also, way to many people are told to just "go" to college without any path and end up wasting a lot of money.

We make more, pay less tax, and have better opportunities. I'll take that any day of the week.
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Mac's are quite useful for CS, it's a Shame that the people in CS that usually use them have no clue how useful they are. And I mean useful as in better than windows, they don't hold a candle compared to Linux in CS
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>>58960955
When you default it just means they start garnishing your wages.

Student loans are money you owe the government; you can't get out of it.

IIRC they have payment plans, and if you work for the government for 10 years they remove your loan debt.
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>>58960955
You can't default on student debt because our retarded Keynesian government actively tries to screw us over

Still with even that...
Fuck Europe.
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>>58952816
You need yourself to questions anon.
1. Do you want to be a normie?
2. Do you want to have a actual bf, who isn't a oversized pillow?
3. Do you want to be socially accepted and forced to social on Facebook and Twitter
If you have answered all yes, then you should just go ahead and buy the newest Macbook Pro
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>>58961960
>Have fun paying taxes.. You're attitude will change. It always does with older generations.
>implying it's not totally worth it to not be in debt for half your life

it's not even that big of a difference tbqhfampai


>You also don't understand economics enough to see that American universities are literally expensive because the government got so involved.

where did I make any claim about this?
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>>58962066

>When you default it just means they start garnishing your wages.

Jesus Christ, that I did not know. That's pretty extreme.
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>>58962192
How is anyone suppose to read that shitty low res graph.
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>>58962002
Slave how?
I am able to move away if I wish, allowed to speak whatever I want, marry whomever I want, and go wherever I want.

>>58962021
My software engineer salary leaves me $3500 after taxes every month. My total monthly expenses from that are maybe $1300 (at most) if I count everything from mortgage to entertainment. I've had friends go to American universities like Stanford and Berkeley, who say that the education quality is on par with ours.
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>>58962222
>Borrow money
>Don't pay it back
>Government just skims a bit off your income
Woah that's so extreme bro

It would be better if they didn't have to pay at all
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>>58962192
Bigger here and I don't think you included anything like sales tax or the sort.
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>>58962262

>It would be better if they didn't have to pay at all

Yes, it would.
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>>58962251
>$3500 a month
That's low as shit. I made more on internships.
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>>58962268
thanks for providing the proper stats, i think my argument is still the same tho
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>>58962352
That $3500 was after taxes, and taxes include everything from pension to healthcare and daycare for my children. The question is: how much money are you left with after you pay for everything you need to live? Along with things like (401k contributions?), insurance, etc. I think around $2200 is a pretty good sum.
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>>58954088
Yes, but not for using Thinkpads.
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>>58962394
My company pays for most of the things you just listed. If I wasn't getting more than 3500 a month I would be living in a shitty commie block in the middle of the ghetto. For a "superiorly educated European" you sure as fuck don't understand how economics work.

Protip the average American makes more money than the average europoor. That's a fact and just because you feel like you make the same doesn't mean it's so.
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>>58952816
>tfw want to go to school in Britain
>Don't have the latest skin colour or religion
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Parents pay for everything at university (I'm an American). Feels gud to have parents who done well and want to help their kids. They pay for tuition, books, my apartment, gas for car, paid for car back in highschool, and groceries. I'm also not an "oppressed" minority so I don't get free gubment handouts and no grants because of parent income. I don't have a lot of spare cash for extra shit tho. I am also a child of immigrants and that seem to be a common thing (at least in my community). How come whites and blacks just like to kick their kids out at 18 and make them take on debt they can't pay back.
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>>58962615
> How come whites and blacks just like to kick their kids out at 18 and make them take on debt they can't pay back.

Because most kids are a mistake, since America doesn't believe in birth control or abortions. Either that or they had kids because they fell for the meme and wind up regretting it and having kids they hate.

We have way too many fucking breeders in this country.
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>Going to lectures
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>>58962637
In my parents case they just didn't have the money themselves but expected me to go.

I didn't get kicked out, though; my parents lived with my grandparents until they got married; figure they can do the same for me (too bad I probably won't get married). Right now I'm waiting on acceptance for a summer semester in uni and trying to save up some money.
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>>58962637
Shut up you weird faggot. Are you serious? Promoting baby murder and then reaching for sodomy as an alternative? Filthy idiot.
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>>58962532
How about you lay down some numbers instead of trolling? Or maybe you're covered in so much debt that you're unable to count it all? Just go buy a gun and shoot yourself already because it's so easy in the land of the free :-)

We can also take a look at the _median_ income which is a much more realistic depiction of what the average person makes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income

Would you look at that? The glorious Nordic flags soaring way above yours. But hey, you probably voted for Trumps and your pockets are filled with "alternative facts", however please refrain from flaunting them in the public, civilised people don't do that.

You also stated that you would live in a ghetto with my salary. We don't have ghettoes where I come from, no true Western nation does.
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>>58953657
You don't take notes to look through them later fool, you take notes to better ingrain the ideas in your brain while you're sitting in the lecture.
Why would you even need to look through your own notes, don't you have books or lecture notes from the professor?
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Get a student loan OP, you fucking dipshit.
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>>58960864

its one thing to write a book and another to shill it in your class and make buying it mandatory for class/your grade.

how jewish can american education get?
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>>58955982
what thinkstation is that?
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>>58962021
Keep dreaming lol
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>>58954278
Because you can check Facebook when you get bored
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>>58958619
One of my friends is a math major and he just draws all that shit on his Surface. His notes are clean as fuck and he loves it.
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>>58952816
>go to university
>literally see 2-3 people use macbooks over the years,
>mfg people use anything that works till its totaly broken, ductaped or glued together
>no one cares about what laptop you use
just get one what does things you want for work, for gaming shit get a desktop
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>>58953828
I only had to live on campus my first year, I now live off campus and get government shekels and scholarships to pay for school.
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>>58963149
I bet Microsoft loves jacking off to his precious notes too huh
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>>58962737
You don't have spics or nigs populating your inner cities. Take that into calculation.
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>>58953828
This is nearly accurate except you lost all credibility at $25,000 a year in tuition. According to the WSJ, the average college student in America only pays around $3500 a semester.
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>>58952816
tfw today I saw some retard sitting in-front of me in lecture looking at used Macbooks on Cragislist using his Macbook.

I hope you see this you autistic fuck and kys.
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>>58960027
writing notes just makes me stop payying attention since I have to focus more on actually getting them written down.
Plus I can't read my own hand writing for shit when I have to write fast.
Hell I'm better just focusing on the class itself and downloading a pdf of the presentation when I get home.
>>58953218
are you retarded or something?
until the 2016 model every single macbook pro has been the same silver color
Those are what you'd call a case, or a skin since you obviously seem to be too retarded to realize that.
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>>58953828
professors forcing their students to buy books THEY authored, brand-new ONLY should be banned

doesn't this break some ethics code?
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>>58953828
>go to college
>get full scholarship AND financial aid because i'm not a mong
>use free money to get used business laptop with SSD and new battery
>get free foot in door anywhere after graduation and no expense to myself
>don't fall for appleshit meme

Feelsgoodman.
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>>58952816
Don't enlist in womyn studies.
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>>58953218
its really common if you don't go to a shit tier school they will give you a laptop to use for the year
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