IBM MAINFRAME

What would you even need it for? Commercial servers are big, loud and power hungry.

if you have to ask this, then dont waste your money.

>>58937652
>>58937654
could i play tf2?

>>58937666
If you have to ask this, then don't waste your money.

wtf am i looking at

>>58937708
oldish ibm mainframe

You can build something better for cheaper....

>>58937666
manchild
sage

>>58937622
If you're an IBM sysadmin you might be able to partition the CPU(s) and run Linux on it.
But you'd probably need to run VM to host it and that's a steep license.
Ask at you local IBM office if there's a Red Book available for it.

>>58937622

I owned a P690 Regatta back in the day. Shit was cash bro.

>>58937666
kys scum. People literally do not even play that game, they just trade fucking hats with each other.

>>58937622
>the bid was 500 and it $1000

Thanks /g/

>>58937622
>tfw you'll always get cucked out of you mainframe because poor
I even ran MVS on Hercules; sysgen and everything.

S H I P P E D

>>58937622
Ask this kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk

Spoiler Alert: It's a useless paperweight.

>>58938176
God dammit

>>58938263
Yeah it would only be worth wild if it was local

>>58938304
Haven't watched it, heard about him though

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lol is it even legal to just go buy a fire truck and drive it around?

>>58937622
Use them to host Minecraft and then charge for donations.

>>58938304
I'd like to pin him up against the mainframe and fuck his tight ass.

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>>58938452
the land of ffffffffffffffffffffreedom anon

>>58938452
you've never seen anyone drive an old cop car? you gotta take off the decals and identifiers so people don't think you're an emergency vehicle and that'd pretty much it.

You might need a CDL for some of those though

>>58938557
cop cars are just regular cars though. there's fire trucks and ambulances for sale.

>>58938557
>tfw want a Crown Vic to fuck with everyone but they're all automatic

>>58938582
Shut up. Why does it even matter? Good God people are stuck up over some of the most tedious things.

>>58938452
Want to know something funny?

I know of a small collective of houses out in the middle of the woods, the only thing that makes them apart of the "grid" is a lone telephone line that runs to them, no electric, no water. Mostly older folk that live out there.
One of them bought a used fire truck and parked it on his property and calmed on his insurance that he WAS the volunteer fire department. Because he did this the fire insurance for him and his neighbors in a ~10 mile radius dropped by like 80%,
An old man in his early 70s with no ready access to a water stream was able to become a fire department because he bought one off of a government auction for a few hundred bucks. How about that.

>>58938595
Because I like to drive stick? What kind of retarded question is that?

>>58938498
was thinking the same thing. gotta see those pink cheeks.

>>58938627
>One of them bought a used fire truck and parked it on his property and calmed on his insurance that he WAS the volunteer fire department. Because he did this the fire insurance for him and his neighbors in a ~10 mile radius dropped by like 80%,

Doesn't he go to prison if there is a fire and the insurance finds he lied?

>it's a /g/ discovers govdeals episode

>>58938694
I asked around about this with the people in the area, and consensus was, that he declared that he was volunteer (got certified in town even), not a real fire department, which really any one can claim to be, and insurance had to take down the information about the truck and it's housed facility (a fucking blue tarp).

So the fact that the insurance company is discounting the way that they are is really at fault of their own. What ever adjuster decided that that was good enough would probably be the one hung by the company.

>>58937622
Don't buy it unless you live near a hydro electric dam and have a deal with said power supplier.

>>58939373
Why hydro?

>>58937622

how many of these would I need to build a star wars shield generator for my house? my budget is $500

>>58939568
You wouldn't even be able to afford to turn it on with that budget

>>58939526
muh cheap energy

>>58937622
You can't run them both on the same circuit. Power consumption could be anywhere from 2-4kw each. It could cost you upwards of $500 a month to have both powered 24/7.

>>58938452
it's so cute that you searched for fire trucks

Those things run AIX so you have to learn a real UNIX. Not that GNU/Looney shit.

>>58940930
He actually could install Linux on them.

>>58938452
I think so. When I was in college there was a fraternity (Pike) that had their own fire truck. They would all jump up on it and drive around campus.

>>58937622
>feasibly could it be usable for light work?
what's "light work" to you? these systems handled millions of transactions every day for years on end without faltering and basically shrink several racks' worth of servers into a single ultra-reliable and ultra-compatible package, of course they can solve whatever basic bitch problems a home user would need them to solve and far better than any off the shelf piece of shit you can cobble together from logicalincrements even today

but if you have to ask such a thing you really have no idea what the fuck you're doing, maybe I should egg you on anyway to learn about it since fuck knows what would happen to them otherwise, they probably go to scrapper scum

>>58938258
same, maybe some day I'll get my hands on an old eS-era Z or an S/390 and open it up to the public

>>58938475
you could actually probably do this unironically thousands of times over and it would still be a waste

good luck licensing that shit though

>>58940930
that's POWER systems you dipshit, these run z/OS and its various relatives, plus Linux in VMs

>>58937912
Your LED-encrusted Ryzen shitbox is reliably running thousands of multi-user VMs concurrently with decade-long uptime? That's pretty incredible.

I kind of miss OS/2. I'm sure they still use it to manage T1's and the like.

I saw a video on a guy buying one of these recently. I think OP did the same.

Now, it couldn't be used for mining blockchains, but could it be used for training a neural network? Or would it be a terrible idea? I'm thinking that it might just be better to buy a couple of high end GPUs or even shit like Tegras that are geared more towards intense calculations rather than graphics.

>>58938631
>He only drives a 5/6 SPEED
kys
why would anyone want to drive a stick shift car...

>>58937622
Yes they are great for browing facebook

>>58943437
t. murican driver

>>58937622
unless you're crazy rich it isn't feasible to run your own mainframe for personal use, the energy is just too expensive

most IBM mainframes draw 14kW of energy; source:http://www.tech-news.com/another/ap200808b2.html

there are 730 hours in a month

most people pay 12 cents per kilowatt hour for electricity

730 * 14 * 0.12 = $1226.40 electric bill per month

>>58944275
That's like 5% for an average american, right? In my country we pay around 7% of our income for electricity bill.

>>58938304
It would be cool it fill it with modern hardware tho.

>>58943437
>waah stop liking what I don't like

>>58944275
Just because he has a mainframe doesn't mean it needs to be running 24/7. He has a hobby, not a financial institution.

>>58938452
lol firetruck...you can buy a tank and drive around

>>58937622
Looking through the electronics and computers section, I find it funny that a majority of the listings are from southern states.

>>58937981
>P690 Regatta
Other than that 1000 kg mass, why didn't you keep it??

>>58937652
Uncommon architecture means the attack plane is different and it will most likely not be breached.

>>58937652
Got a better way to run z/OS outside of a VM?

>>58938452
You can also buy guns they seized from drug dealers.

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Also you'd need to have a special outlet installed for it

Pic related, its the cord

Is it possible to chuck a video card in this so I can play games? It must be way faster than an i7.

>>58944275
>muh power consumption is actually a decent point for once
Though if you really gimped it and only ran it for a day or two straight a month would be a bit more cost-effective if you really want to say you're running z/OS at home, mainframes in home collections are really impractical as shit

These things belong in museums or other big public spaces that can sustain them and afford to make them useful again, that z10 in the OP shot would make a pretty wicked teaching tool

>>58945399
Even if it's bait the idea of some hipster doing this makes my blood boil, just buy a generic IBM rack for the same effect instead of wasting tons of money and time gutting a rare piece of multi-million dollar kit like that.

>>58949500
>the idea of some hipster doing this makes my blood boil

http://gizmodo.com/265615/5-million-cray-y-mp-supercomputer-is-now-baby-furniture

im sorry anon

>>58948930
No. You're supposed to use an attached workstation.
Mainframes don't have PCI/ISA/whatever slots.
They use fast/wide PC-style chips to run their I/O devices, but the actual "guts" are usually custom designed and made from the ground up. No off-the-shelf parts.

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>>58949585
man fuck that

Those systems are such fucking works of art inside and out, Seymour Cray was a fucking genius and niggers like these just shit all over everything that made them so incredible in the first place turning them into empty doorstops

(autistic screeching continues for several hours)

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>>58949808
>tfw the watson computer is turned into a changing table in 30 years

>>58949585
That's not nearly as bad as it could be. Everything is intact, they're just using it as furniture.

>>58937622
>>58937622
Man IDK if this is a honeypot but if not anon I fucking love you

>>58937622
ibm contractors sold them to isis

so..probably yes

>>58950431
got a link?

>>58937622
no software lol

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>>58937622

hey guys should i get this, possibly for just going to the store and back for some milk

or it is maybe just money not well spent

i mean, ill probably hire a pit crew also

>>58951424
kek
if i could buy that for 2000 then why not

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>>58938499
100 Macbook Pros

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=2737&acctid=1317

>>58951774
>10k

that's actually not a bad price at all

>>58951836
>reserve not met

they got a lot of stuff

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=10&acctid=8520

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>>58949808
We have a Cray machine at work, a bunch of dressed up Navy guys came in and carted it into our machine room and it's been whirring there ever since. Nobody seems to really know what it does

>>58951988
>Nobody seems to really know what it does
It's for the Naval Academy students to study supercomputing.

>>58949585
breeders are the fucking worst

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>>58937622
god i want one of those

>>58938499
>shrinkwrap not covering entire pallet
as a warehouse employee this triggers me

>>58951166
Just install Ubuntu on it.

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>>58949857
>Here's were we store the babies shitty nappies

>>58952411
either that or they gut it and turn it into a vegan burrito stand

although im sure in 30 years it will be something much worse

>>58952411
Kek

not bad actually
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=4&acctid=8904

>tfw don't know how to drive manual

>>58952864
So learn. I didn't know how to drive my first car when I bought it

>>58952313
z/OS already has a Unix environment built in though

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Am I /wt/ yet

>>58952411
I never realized the glass front thing was actually part of the whole enclosure

>>58945399
>It would be cool it fill it with modern hardware tho.
Have you any idea what sort of technology is in those things?
I know it's Real Kewl to diss mainframes, but when you need something to run a network of thousands of interactive and batch terminals, your only option is a mainframe; PC technology won't cut it.
Want to run a million row spreadsheet? How about a live database of the contents of every Walmart in the world? Ford have a bunch of mainframes running all their production lines all over the world. That's parts inventory through to floor stock.

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>>58937622
My dad said if I did well at school I could get a new computer

Is this a good graphics card for Minecraft?

Quadro P6000???

>>58955439
no kys yourself there's enough bait in this thread
OUT OUT OUT

>>58955454
It's not bait, you fucking dumbass. He's demonstrating OP's stupidity.

>>58955519
that's already been demonstrated for like pretty much the entire thread you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome

>>58955538
>I'm clearly not the guy that did it
>still going after me with personal insults
Did you forget your meds today or are you just a special kind of stupid?

>>58955551
>he doesn't recognize a basic shitposting pasta
come on nigger damn don't take this place so seriously

>>58955633
>stream of random insults
Anon, think if where you are. There's a 90% chance a poster is serious and just going on an autistic fit of rage when you see a post like that.

>>58955651
I used to think that way but really I can't take this place seriously anymore, it's all about (You) farming nowadays

>>58937622
>>58952187
>>58955439

IBM are just huge number crunching machines.
Try using Z/OS 360/OS that shit is so fucking ancient , making anything takes fucking forever , also EBCDIC.

For anyone that wants to play around, there is an IBM mainframe emulator called Hercules.

>>58948856
you can use single phase as long as you dont push it hard

>>58954866
definitely taken off a corpse

>>58954866
>broken glass
looks like diegos latest cocain deal blew up into his face

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=442&acctid=3869

anyone want to do some video editing?

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>>58957439
Oh shit nigger what are you doing

>old IBM power shit from 2006
That requires a 240 VAC 30A circuit to run. It is a power hungry beast with ancient hardware and there is no reason to want one as an individual.

>>58957823
That's not a POWER machine.

>>58957839
>checks model number and spec sheet
>it's a fucking z/OS box
You're right, mea culpa.

Man, I haven't had to deal with z/OS in a couple years, last time I had to deal with it was early 2015 when consulting at John Deere. Rock solid stable for databases but fucking long in the tooth compared to AIX or modern Linux.

Some of you guys are having a good time browsing GovDeals. Different state agencies prefer different auction brokers, and sometimes they just spread it around just because, so stuff in your state can be spread out among several different sites.

https://gsaauctions.gov
Lots of computers go through here

http://www.publicsurplus.com/
Mostly vehicles, heavy machinery, and strange niche stuff like lab and industrial equipment

You can find a little of everything at both though.

>>58957961
Thanks anon

>>58957961
Forgot to mention, if you're a NEET like me and you can scrounge up a couple hundred bucks and frequently check these places, you can sometimes find some good opportunity for flipping stuff.

Last year I won a pallet of Latitude E6400's (Core 2 Duo). Even though they're old and not worth much, I still quintupled what I spent. It would have been more but a few were too damaged.

Broken down, I paid $600 for ~45 salable machines and ended up with $3000 after six months of farting around in my free time.

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>>58945399
>>58949500
>>58955340
I wouldn't ever think about touching the internals of a working machine, but I think an old busted supercomputer wouldn't be the worst piece of modern art/furniture someone's ever set up in their home

mainframe general /mfg/ when?

>>58948856
Isnt that just a 3 phase plug?

>tfw IBM eSeries 720 but no 240v outlets.

Essentially it'll be more hassle than it's worth. You can run linux in a standalone LPAR but remember that this is z/Architecture procs and not POWER so you might be limited in what's ported to run on it.
You'll likely not find much use for it.
If you have any intention on running IBM operating systems on it prepare to pay up for license fees.

>>58938452
CDL fag here.

Yup. My bro has an ambulance for a service truck.

No gubment stickers.
No red and blue lights.

Either cdl tag, cdl, and air brakes or if it has hydraulic brakes and under i wanna say 5 ton? And not being fired out for commercial use 100% legal.

That F550 is a good deal. Make a hell of a winch truck.

>>58938557
Agreed. Copying my bros shotgun holder for my vic ;)

>>58938582
250hp stock anon. Just get a manual valve body if your pecker is so hard for shifting. My pos stock vic was 2,000 bucks and little old lady owned. 4-500 bucks for busted up ones all day on cl son.

I been thrashing the fuck out of mine.

>>58938627
I'm dead now.

Btw. If he wants to keep scamming he can sighn off "donations" of gear and vehicles to uncle same for way over price if he wants to risk a felony. As in his daughter donates a shitty grass rig and doesnt pay taxes...

Felony like i said but they dont even have running water so wtf

>>58938694
Wups. Wouldnt start.

>>58937622
no you moron.

nonfree shitware OS that literally spawned the necessity of the BSDs and GNU/Linux

power hungry.

proprietary everything.

you should only buy these if you have some legacy shitware that depends on the same architecture as these.

don't be a moron.

"mid-range Linux" shitboxes (literally anything that isn't a mainframe) is going to be more useful.

>>58939604
Not drilling a natural gas well

>>58943437
i thought the same thing until my dad built mybstep mom a cobra mustang. Took it for an oil change and punched it.

Almost fucking killed myself.

Maybe for toy but not daily. Had some. Fucking hated them all

>>58945399
This.

Got a waste hight tall gateway server from the 90's. Bout to stuff a pc AND and mini fridge in it

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>>58946162
;(

>>58959024
xD

>>58958242
Ob clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coDtzN6bXAM

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>>58949857
>mfw

CAPITAL REEEEE

>>58951424
My buddy has over $50k IN THE MOTOR of a mud truck he drives on average 3 seconds a month through a mud pit.

>>58951774
$12,000

>>58958932
>I have no idea what I'm talking about: the post

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>>58937622
You should put the main frame in a fire truck

>>58937622
These things seem like a steal until you realize how much power you need to run them 24/7, assuming you can even run them without support.

>>58937666
If you don't understand why a mainframe cannot play video games you should not be buying a mainframe.

>>58955439
nVidia DGX-1 or BTFO.

>>58947405
What do you need z/OS for?

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>>58960646
>a mainframe cannot play video games
HE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT TEXT BASED GAMES

millennial scum

>>58960743
>Playing text based games on something that uses 30+ amps

>>58938452
imagine showing up for work in a fire truck

>>58938452
Yes, you can buy pretty much any vehicle in the US if you have the money. Military vehicles usually have restrictions like being completely disarmed.

Hell you can legally buy a tank in the US. It is illegal to drive it on the roads though since it tears the shit out of them.

>>58960778
learn your damn history

>>58960877
I used to play text-based games. I know it would play those.

>>58960853
its legal if it has rubber treads instead of steal ones

what would you be able to do with it?

>>58937622
>could it be usable for light work?
Why not make something better instead?

>>58962404
call me when you can build i fucking IBM mainframe

>>58937652
And hot

>>58961187
>its legal if it has rubber treads instead of steal ones
It's almost never legal to steal.

Can it run crysis?

>>58937666
Do you have the source code? You'd need to recompile to run on non-x86.

>>58940930
If wincucks can learn Linux, it would be trivial for Linux users to learn UNIX.

>>58950431
What exactly does ISIS need mainframes for?

>>58960743
Text games technically aren't VIDEO games, anon.

>>58960662
Using z/OS

>>58962804
What does theft have to do with it?

>>58963360
>steel vs steal

>>58962804
you now what i mean

>>58963677
Steeling is bad, especial steeling steal treads.

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=2784&acctid=1425

Could one of these things theoretically run linux?

>>58965491
It uses a 486 so there's no reason why it couldn't.

>>58965491
Sure, you'd get a lot more use out of something more contemporary to it though, unless you want to try mothballed distros out.

Here is a dude who bought the same model of mainframe
"Here's What Happens When an 18 Year Old Buys a Mainframe"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk

>>58951424
No, get the 2008 model.

Mainframes are huge and very heavy. You'll have a hell of a time moving it

>>58965491
Will it blend?

>>58958242
then build funiture that looks like it. nuch ore conftrable and is not a logistic headache to move, might cost less to.

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>>58958242
It seems I just happen to have a nicer shot of the same exact system.

>>58967764
That's the way I'd go, with a cray design it probably wouldn't be that difficult to imitate anyway.

>>58938557
You don't need a CDL to drive a semi or other large vehicle. You need a CDL to drive one commercially; that's why it's called a "commercial driver license" and not a "large vehicle driving certification".

If someone were to set up a beowulf cluster how many PCs would be needed to match the mainframe in OP's pic? I guess comparison would be flops vs flops.

>>58938304

came here to post this, good vid

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if i was american i'd totally buy dirty drug dealers guns, what could go wrong

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/tpg/ interested?