/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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Look what just arrived in the mail Bois

My X230's temperatures have been hovering around 50 to 55 degrees browsing the web, listening to music and other light stuff.
Is it time to change the paste?

>>58936874
thats pretty decent tbqhmf

if it gets to like 70+ while under max load though, definitely time for new paste/cleaning

>>58936874
that's normal, paste won't change it

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>Keep thinking about selling my X300 because a 9-year-old low voltage processor is basically useless
>Backtrack every time I open it because dat build quality

The overall feel of this computer, whether it is the hinges or the keyboard or whatever, completely puts everything else made before or since to shame. It's worth keeping because it is proof that, when they put their minds to it, Lenovo can build something amazing.

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Hello /tpg/
i want a hackingtosh
should i get a x220 tablet edition (i7)?
i got offered a 410 for half the price (i5)
im worried that the conector in the x220 is going to break easily , (i have bad experience with spinning displays)
also the t410 is hard as fuck to make a hackingtosh
thanks in advance

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i'm in a dilemma and i dunno what to do, i cant pick between x260\70 and t460\70, people said that if you come from big screen the x2x0 would be awful, but i want longer battery life
i really want both but t460 right now is so fucking cheap(max spec for 800$)

>>58936858
mine's coming tomorrow. can't wait to dualboot linux

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I bougt this T430 about a week ago. Battery life is pretty much non-existent, so I wanted to buy a new one. Does anyone have any experience with the Superb Choice brand? Are unofficial batteries any good, or should I just buy an official lelnovo one.
Also, is the keyboard mod really worth it? I wanted to try it out, but I am too lazy to do it.

>>58937915
don't get the tablet. the swivel joint isn't durable for sustained use. just get the normal x220. Follow the below link for the hackintosh guide.
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

>>58938681
why the fuck do you have it on the grass?

>>58938681
t430 are okay, but i prefer the t420 for everything else except yea the t430 is still faster.

>>58938696
i got offered a x230 for cheaper should i go for that?
specs are basically the same

>>58938681
I just for one a week ago too. How much did you pay?
I like the layout of the older keyboard better, the key feel is fine on both.

Can't say about the battery, I'm in the same boat.

>>58938771
the x230 *i5
but i just see 10% increase in performance

>>58938800
about $222

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Will this work in my W520?

I just fitted the auo b156w01 v.4 wide gamut display to my t530 but the colors seem funny. What would be the best way to calibrate it?

>>58936874
Just replaced my paste and have tpfancontrol installed, hovering around 48. Seems like paste may give you a few degrees, but may not be worth the trouble.

>picked up a T60p, dock, carrying bag, ibm ultranav keyboard with numpad, bunch of other little tech shit like usb 2.0 hub from some guy in North Virginia for 20 bucks

Friend helped me put Lubuntu on, holy shit, turns out this thing has the UXGA 1200x1600 screen.

What was your best purchase /g/?

>>58939209
X230T for $200 with travel charger (can be charged in car or in wall outlet, charger has a slitter to also charge USB devices). Still has active cellular data subscription that some unknown entity is paying for. Laptop looks brand new.

>>58938909
Sure. Ideally check that it'll be faster than your current ram (if you're still going to be using it) to make sure it won't end up being a mild performance loss, but chances are newer stuff will be much the same.

>>58939060
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/t-w530-fhd-color-profile.695861/

>set up T60p with unofficial AMD GPU driver
>everything works fine, or so i thought
>for some stupid reason the GPU downclocks itself to half the speed when I play back a video in MPC-HC and won't speed up except if i force it in rivatuner
>the only solution is to not use EVR-CP in MPC-HC

>>58936826
Is it easy to replace the 420 keyboard with a backlit? Where do they sell the replacements?

>>58939480
T420 has no backlit keyboards, only chiclit keyboards are backlit.

>>58939209
What if I only have one Thinkpad purchase?

>>58939480
Just use the Thinklight

Is disabling webcam in BIOS enough or do I have to go full tape?

>>58939574
It's enough. You can also disable the microphone in some models

>>58939209
>T410 with i5-520m, 6gb ram, HD+ screen and a broken backlight fuse for $25
>Dock for $1

>>58939574
You'll know from the light if it's running anyway. The microphone is always going to be more of a risk anyway.

Thinking about picking up a 230
Processor: 3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3520M (4M L3 Cache, 2.90GHz)
Intel Core i7-3520M Processor
Total Memory: 4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3

Guy's asking $80 for it

How hard is it to replace the ram in these?

>>58939682
Thats an excellent price

RAM is three screws.

>>58939620
>The microphone is always going to be more of a risk anyway.
but what if I sit in the silence all the time, in a quiet room?

Dug an old r32 out of storage. Runs xp like absolute ads. OS suggestions? Been a while since I used xubuntu, but I like xfce. Then again, will newer distros even run on this? Will I have to hunt down obscure drivers?

>>58936858
1080p on 15.6inch is comfy af

>>58940527
no modern linux distro will run better than XP
and nothing will run nicely on an r32, that thing is far too old.to do anything useful

>>58940527
bin it

Anon, how bad of an idea to buy a new T460s?
I do want/need a new model and that's the only one of the actual Thinkpad series available here that won't require me to sell a leg and an arm.

>>58940186
If that's the case then you might as well have it disabled anyway. It's more thatrecording a conversation can easily more harmful than getting a picture of your face, which will identify who's using the computer and where at worst, unless you jerk off right in front of your webcam.

>>58940527
Something LXDE or just a straight WM will work best, or even just something like puppy linux. As others have said anything will run like shit, but it's not like practicality matters.

>>58940615
If you're worried about cost then buying second-hand is surely a better bet, even if you have to buy from overseas.
The T460s isn't that bad as a laptop, just keep in mind your options for expanding the battery are limited compared to a T460, though if you don't need battery life it's pretty solid.

HOW MUCH LONGER DO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE RETRO THINKPAD REFRESH!?

All I want is to replace this shitty 2nd gen X1.

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>>58936826
IBM slogan "Think" ---> Apple slogan "Think Different"
IBM TrackPoint™ ---> Apple starts calling it's capacitive touch pads """Trackpad"""

>>58938714
it's grassfeed

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>>58937793
>those hinges
>those keyboard bezels
>1.8" drive
>tiny ass cooling system for 35W cpu+pch
>useless disc drive

>>58939384
dumb windowsposter

>>58938696
Problem is, this requires you to own a Mac in the first place

>>58939480
The backlit keyboards are terrible. They have a glossy surface and get sticky when you use them. The Layout is also shit. Stick with the Thinklight

>>58941036
A virtual machine would suffice.

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Best thinkpad for a grill that likes pink macbooks?

>>58941241
X200s painted pink

>>58938696
It depends on how badly you're beating it up. Sure, it's definitely built smaller than that seen in the likes of the X60/61t but it'll take being picked up by the screen just fine

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>X1 carbon review?
>shit or good?

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https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/02/12/zuk-edge-2-luo-tianyi-edition-leaked/
>Lenovo doing vocaloid cross-promotions with their chinky phones
Themed thinkpad that comes with a figure of your waifu when?

>>58941348
How can I paint it pink?

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>>58941697

someone successfully upgraded the regular T440 720p screen to an FHD IPS one?

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Should I get X220 or X220t?

>>58942502
see
>>58937915

>>58941082
Where do I get one?

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Confess your sins /tpg/...
How many thinkpads you have?

>>58941592
They should have done chink waifu edition instead of aborting all those poor girls.

>>58942502
is that a boy or a girl?

>>58942545
Follow any guide for installing OS X on VirtualBox.

>>58942568
>when you live in such a horrible surveillance state that you can no longer distinguish friendly discourse from 3-letter prying

why even live anymore

>>58942647
Amd are these safe to use?
TPB have several pre made VDI for OSX

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>tfw just about to buy an X220 on ebay but i refreshed the page and it was sold

What's the best thinkpad to get second hand under <£250?

It'll run windows 7 and shitty browser-based corporateshit apps, I don't want that stuff on my personal machine

My mother always said Thinkpads are ugly and told me to get a Mac.

Today she was at a meeting with the CEO of her (pretty big name) company and he had a Thinkpad with him.

She literally called me immediately after the meeting to tell me I was probably right about Thinkpads since he was using one.

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Are ExpressCards/34 dead technology?
I can no longer find anything useful.

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Fujitsu T732, i5-3320M, 4GB of RAM, 320 GB HDD.
The seller want 240$, should I go for it?

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So I found a local shop that sells used/refurbished laptops, pic related.
Anything worth getting?
I already have T420 as a stationary machine, but I want something that I toss around/test new things/hook it up to monitors for presentation/lend it to mom.

>>58936874
>>58936960
It's just that It used to idle at 45 degrees, usually.

>>58943224
If these prices are in USD then I don't think they're too great. I guess the main ones to look at are the X230, T732 because it might be a nice tablet laptop though I have no idea what those things are actually like, and the HP *60 and *70 models.

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>>58943475
Yes, it's in USD.
The devices look fine visually, at least for the models listed in the pic.
I was thinking of using Hiren's boot CD to test the hardware.
I was thinking of HP 8560w, to use it as stationary and use the T420 instead.
But for that price I can get new laptop, with decent specs.

What about the X201? it's i7 with 128GB SSD.

>>58943588
I wouldn't really bother with the store then, you can probably find better prices on eBay, unless buying locally is worth the difference to you.

>I was thinking of HP 8560w, to use it as stationary and use the T420 instead.
It'd probably do a good job of that. The thinkpad equivalent is the W520/W530 so have a look at those too.

>But for that price I can get new laptop, with decent specs.
If you're just keeping it in the same place then than an old workstation will probably still come out on top. A decent CPU from that time with good cooling goes a long way, though the same probably doesn't go for graphics.

>What about the X201? it's i7 with 128GB SSD.
I'm not a big fan of that generation just because the CPUs shit out heat and it leaves my T410 a bit impotent. The X230 is going to be an all round better machine save for the SSD, and maybe the keyboard if you prefer classic ones.

how long until order forms are available for the 51nb X210's?

>>58944603
What are specs and pictures?

>>58944612
no pics, specs are available on the forum
https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1734279&extra=page%3D1

Just pulled the trigger on a T430 (I5 third gen, 500 gb hdd, 4 ram), for 230 dollars with used 6 cell battery (85 percent). Literally minutes afterwards a x220 with new battery got published for 210 dollars, which is pretty much a substantial difference in latin america (yeah, I know that for americans these prices are insane but it is how it is).

How badly did I get fucked? Was there much of a difference performance-wise?

>>58944603
>>58944646
Why only chinks and koreans do this kind of shit?
Why aren't westerners interested in designing these boards? And they say the white man is creative.

>>58944745
because westerners don't have easy access to computer manufacturing plants

>>58944771
In our modern globalised world?

>>58944700
It's fine, but you should get a SSD

>>58944791
yes, our modern globalized world has 90% of all electronics manufacturing happen in Asia

>>58944813
But aren't they designed in California™?

>>58944798
Don't want to get an ssd since it's very likely that I won't turn it on for 2 months after the end of each semester. It's quite a shame cause I'm already spoiled by the fast speeds that an ssd offers.

>>58944853
stop posting, you're entertaining no one

>>58944865
rood

>>58938819
The x230 is much better in other ways than just the CPU performance (i.e. HD4000 graphics which have DX11 support, 22nm, 2 usb3.0 (up from 0 or 1 on the x220) and it'll be in better nick overall.) Downside is you'll want to replace the keyboard with that of the x220.

>>58942986
only modern use is more USB 3.0 (but you have to find an adapter of actual quality for it to be anything like native) and eGPU setups. Also WWAN if you've already put an mSATA in and used the slot.

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>>58945049
It's very hard to find where I live.
I was thinking of getting a wireless ExpressCard to boost the range.
>eGPU
Seems like interesting concept.
Is it possible to do on T420? what adapter do I need?

Also there seems to be ExpressCard SSDs, are these bootable?

>>58943224
only x230 has semi sane price

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I hate the touchpad on my T60 and use the trackpoint for everything.

Would a touchpad-less palmrest from an R61 fit right in? Assuming they're both 15.4 inch models

>>58940999
dumb linuxposter

>>58942758
Just torrent the original OSX DVD and install VMware workstation + the mod which allows you to select OSX as the guest

>>58944856
SSDs don't lose data over time, if that's what you're worried about

>>58945673
There are some SSDs that will die entirely if they go a very long time without being powered on but I think that was an early generation fault anyway

I believe the original study said that an SSD from 2011 which already had multiple terabytes of write wear on it and then was disconnected from all power and left in an 87 degree room finally lost its stored data after one year

>>58945646
>the original OSX DVD
Where do I get this?
All I found was this https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6823078/Mac.OSX.Lion.10.7.2-ADDiCT
And it claim to be install like any other OS.

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Are there any pen-input 2in1s that let you replace the cpu? It looks like it's only possible on Fujitsu's.

Is it true there was very little performance increase between 3rd and 4th gen full voltage mobile cpus?

Bother getting a sleeve to put a T420 in or just dump it in my backpack?

>>58946043
There has barely been a (noticeable to the user) difference in intel anything since 2nd gen came out excluding power usage.

>>58946043
4th gen has no dedicated pch, all on one die.

>>58946098
>le ebin maymay ekksdee

>>58946115
between neighboring gens there's not much difference, but it adds up. 2nd gen can't hold a candle to 7th

>>58945910
http://mac-torrent-download.net/application/utility/macos-sierra-10-12-iso-installer-for-vmware-workstation-and-mac/

>>58946221
>VMWare

>>58946275
Its what everyone uses, given that OSX requires special shit to work, it can be fucky at times.
Also, OSX is fucky with VMs in general and on most the store doesnt work without a fuckton of hacks.

>t420 recommended
>gen 2 processors

why is this shit recommended?

>>58946333
Memetics. Pure memes.

>>58946333
>muh specs
plebeian identified

if you know anything about computers you can get by with far less

core 2 duo still gets the job done and it's ten years old

>>58937793
That's beautiful. There has to be a way to make them run well, I'm sure of it. I use a x200s most of every day at work and it runs really well with its low voltage Penryn. Maybe that can run well too? Is the X301 just as nice?

>>58946333
Put a quad core in it and it will btfo a lot of stuff made a few gens after.

>>58946333
Because it's still perfectly usable for anything except GAYMEN?

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>>58946375
tfw I've come to use my x220 on a daily basis for pretty much everything outside gaming.

>>58946583
They're still more than useable for gaymen silly. Look up benchmarks, the framerate difference is non-existent in most games between 2nd gen CPUs and later gens.

>>58946149
idk man, around 25% over my particular i5 isn't exactly making me want to throw this x220 into the wood chipper:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7200U-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2540M/m153577vsm1616

7300u seems a better jump (only has 2 user benchmarks recorded so far), but in a world where atoms and celerons are still being put in brand new laptops, there's still some fight left in the gen2 core

>>58946662
Sure, but not the T420
inb4 muh external GPU, nobody mentioned that

>>58946511
>change the brain and it will behave differently

Stupid fuck

>>58946680
Well yeah, but we're not talking about the GPUs here. The CPU itself is more than sufficient for gaming still.

>>58946711
I don't know, even the quadcore in my W520 goes to it's limit in demanding games

>>58937793
>overall feel
Iiterally subjective

>playing games on a chinkpad

Why are you even here?

>>58946777
im here to fuck your mum kid -_-

>>58946726
What games are those? The only ones I can think of are Rise of the Tomb Raider and maybe Arkham Knight. The GPU would surely limit those games before the CPU.

>>58946777
Hey, I use C2D Thinkpads, I'm just arguing for Sandy Bridge here.

>>58946803
>What games are those?
GTA 5
Not that the GPU isn't the limit, but the CPU is also used heavily

>>58946869
I mean, I could see it bottlenecking a Titan Pascal or something but unless it's maxing out all the time the CPU is not struggling. GTAV is also a really taxing game on CPUs.

So is it official at this point that there will be no more X***T lines? Have they been replaced completely by the Yoga?

T450 or E7450?

How hard would eGPU be for the x230?

>>58947361
Not hard at all, you have an expresscard slot

So I bought a used HP elitebook that's still under warranty. Battery is kinda getting old. Anyone have tips or experience on how I can get them to replace it for free? Or if not, where is a cheap place to get an original or OEM one? HP elite book 840 G1.
Cheers

>>58947755
have you checked their replacement programs? Might be included

>>58942822
>What's the best thinkpad to get second hand under <£250?
pls respond

>>58948184
t420/t430 or x220/x230

>>58948226
do not fucking buy a t420/t430 if you want a larger laptop consider the t520/t530, the screens are so awful on the t4xx that they should not ever be considered

>>58948184
t/w520/530

Can anything be done to make the touchpad more precise? Surprised how bad it is.

inb4 turn it off

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>he doesn't game on his ThinkPad

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>>58949162

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>>58949162
>>58949174

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Why couldn't lelnovo make a decent swivel?

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Comfy gaymen machine

I've been using a x220 for about a week now and I like it, the thing is I really don't understand why you guys praise so much the keyboard. I mean is nice for a notebook but compared to a random mechanical keyboard still feels like shit to type on. Also sometimes it misses some keystroke

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>>58949546
its the best for a laptop

>>58949263
>>58949188

HOW

>>58949765
By buying a workstation model

>>58949546
I never miss a keystroke on the x220. Either your x220 is defective or you are.

>>58949794
My t520 also requires some keys to be pressed hard, I guess the keyboard is worn

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>>58946333
>gen 2 processors
>why is this shit recommended?

>>58946333
My X230 outperforms a X250 in single threaded performance AND multi threaded performance.

>>58948284
This 100%. If you want portability, get an X series. If you want power and screen real estate, get a T5xx or W5xx. There has basically been no reason to go for any of Lenovo's 14 inch offerings since the T410.

>>58938513
dualbooting is for faggots.

>>58946375
Nah, your Peryn would kick the shit out of the L7100. This processor barely has more power than the Pentium 4 I used to use back in the day. The computer is noticeably sluggish with Aero enabled, 1080p videos (and some 720p ones) are just not going to happen, and the cursor lags behind as you type on certain web pages. Although that is more the modern web's fault than the X300. Nevertheless I feel as if my phone has more processing power. But dat keyboard.

From what I hear the X301 is pretty much just the X300 with a bit more power and DisplayPort.

>>58946757
Yeah so says the fag who thinks his Corolla can hold a candle to a Lexus.

https://www.govdeals.ca/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=292&acctid=5561
lot of 20 thinkpads

>>58949861
The problem with benchmarks is you won't notice the difference in the real world.

What's a Core i7 5500u laptop going to run now a days? >$600? You can get 4 refurbished like new T420's for the same price.

>>58949996
does it actually?

>>58950450
In most loads, yes.
It gets destroyed in graphics though.

>>58950457
couldn't care less for graphics

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You know it would be better you guys were to get a T-450/460

I have a budget of 700 (750 is the absolute upper limit). I'm looking to get a thinkpad that I can use to browse the web, work in python/R. I'll probably install debian or ubuntu.

The rub is, I have to buy at retail prices (I can't use grant funding on used stuff).

Any suggestions? I haven't had a thinkpad since the T41, and the line looks pretty good again, so I'd love to get back into it.

Any Ausfags have a link to a chink x220 9 cell? i cant find any on Ebay

>>58951673
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-Cell-Battery-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220/32483050947.html

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10-8V-Universal-Genuine-Notebook-Battery-For-ThinkPad-X220-X220i-X220s-GA-/172386561296
Chinks can't title their listing for shit.

it feels like my x220 is running hotter after i changed the thermal paste

>>58949250
they did back with the X200 line
to be fair, that was IBM design

Gookovo continued fucking it up all the way until the X230

>>58951793
awesome, thanks mate

>>58950764
The only new Thinkpad I'd buy is the P50

>>58951851
Instead of relying on feelz like a dumb politically extreme luddite, try running a hardware monitor program before and after the paste change.

>>58951862
>X200
>IBM design
?

Lelnovo made every Thinkpad tablet starting from the X41T.

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Is there anyone who owns the S70?

>>58952245
using the IBM design they bought and slapping their logo on it
they gradually started moving away around the X220 until it began to resemble the cancer it is today
They were still putting the IBM logo on some X61 models

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>>58952450
is that the prototype of the X300?

>>58944798
>>58944856

No really, get an SSD.
Posting this from my T430, running 2 SSDs and a 500GB HDD.

(mSATA SSD) + (2.5" SSD) + (HDD in Ultrabay/optical slot)

I still fucking love this laptop. Bought it new when it came out. Going on.... 5 years?

>>58946071
I dump it it my backpack with the front to my back

Just got my first ThinkPad. What's the blue thinkvantage button do?

>>58952638
nothing anymore

I never knew that disabling winupdates on x230 would reduce the temp up to 13%c, fuck ms garbage.

>tfw I want to build a desktop computer
>tfw I also have a W520
Will that could be a little excesive?

>>58952717
>using a laptop at a dedicated workspace such as home or office
lel oh lel

>>58952638
installs gentoo

if you're on a good operating system, it does whatever you want it to

>>58952774
>implying

>>58952226
No it runs few degrees cooler.

>>58952774
>hurr durr hurr durr

Does the clitmouse really make you better at playing with a woman's clit?

what's the most powerful thinkpad i can get that is still good build quality? i used to use an x201 for school but i'm not really fond of the size any more - i prefer specs over portability so i have been looking at the w520 and it seems really good - im not sure whether to trust the only place i can find to buy it from though (ebay refurbed)

>>58953976
w530

>>58936826
Can someone give me a rundown of the X220 vs the X220T. Both i7, but I can't find anything that says the X220T comes with USB 3.

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Been looking for a t430, but now I have my doubts. Is the gap between i5 2nd and 3rd Gen that great? I could just get a cheaper and larger w420 with an ssd, but lose the usb3. Btw I'll do some video and image processing

>>58954391
>Is the gap between i5 2nd and 3rd Gen that great?
Have a look at CPU and GPU benchmarks and see if the difference is worth the cost for you.

>I could just get a cheaper and larger w420 with an ssd, but lose the usb3.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:W520
The W520 has USB3. The main thing it loses over the T430 is battery life and portability.

>Btw I'll do some video and image processing
A W series might be worth it just for the decent GPU and screen then.

just got my t420

even though its plugged in and the settings all to never dim or sleep

the screen still dims
what could be wrong with it?

>>58954430
the settings are lying to you

>>58942986
when i put one of these in my x220 it becomes slow as shit. Is this normal?

>>58954391
You definitely want the W520 over the T430 for any video/image work. The screens on the T420/T430 are simply appalling.

>>58954440
how do i fix it then?

>>58954484
install gentoo

>>58943122
Get an x220t silly

>>58954484
get the right drivers

Should I be aware of any horror tales about cheap batteries or I'm just looking at worse performance?

>>58954597
i got the drivers off the lenovo website

>>58954419
I'll use another monitor with high resolution to work with. The price bump on the w520 seems to be too much at this moment. I'm doing all that kind of work on a core duo and shitty amd card on 4gb ram, so I'm guessing it won't be worse with a gen3 i5 and ssd.

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>thinkpads

>>58954699
dumb show
gb2 reddit

>>58952998
I can confirm

>>58954877
you are full of shit, you own a thinkpad therefore you don't get any pussy

What are the main drawbacks of the *40 series (X440, T440, etc) other than the clickpad?

>>58955044
shitty low voltage haswell processors that perform worse than their ivy bridge predecessors. I know that the x240s igpu actually performs worse than the one on the x230 because of the single channel ram limitation. Thats pretty much it.

>>58955044
Even more pointless removal of useful features which prevent you from swapping in the --20 keyboard.

>>58955063
And what advantages did it have over the 230 series?

does this seem like a good deal? it looks good and its the only 1080p one ive seen

ebay(com)au/itm//162390171026

>>58955123
Seems alright. You might want to check W530's if you haven't already, they're not all that much more expensive within Australia.

I could get an X201(i5,160GB) or an X230(i7,320GB) for general use (programming, browsing.. ).
I think the smaller one could do just fine, but is there something else Ishould be aware of (scree, keyboard, battery.. )?

>>58955451
layout layout on the x201 is a lil different and it doesn't use the island keys, as far as i know screen and battery should be the same
actually i think the screen is a different resolution. i think the x201 is 16:10 at like 1280xsomething and the x230 is 16:9 at 1366x768

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/bulk-lot-14x-laptops-t60-t42-t43-lenovo-thinkpad-ex-gov-/222410167696
>how to kickstart your thinkpad hoard

>>58955451
The X230 is going to have some fairly major improvements all around.
>screen
The newer TN should be less terrible than on the X201 but still awful. X201 gets 16:10 though.
>keyboard
Mostly personal preference up till the point where you need to use the shitty new Home/End/Delete keys
>battery
Newer CPUs should use less power though the difference with light usage will be minor. Lenovo's estimates on battery life are about 50% more on the X230.

If you need any sort of performance out of your laptop then the X230 is well worth it, but otherwise the X201 should be a reasonable shitposting machine.

So I got a x220t, and I need a lot of storage space on it, but due to the 7mm height restriction, I seem to be limited to seagate firecudas for anything over 1TB, is this about right?

>>58938909
I've got 1 1.35v 1600mhz 8gb stick and 3 1.5v 1333mhz sticks in my w520 and it works fine
>>58955746
>2017
>laptop
>internal hard drive
No. Get a nas or get an external drive.
>>58955451
x230 has a weird keyboard layout, but it's still better than most other laptops
keyboard feels much better to type on though
x230 should get you quite a bit better battery life in windows, but linux on anything 20 or newer seems to suck
screens both suck. It's either slightly more vertical pixels on the x201, or slightly more horizontal pixels on the x230.
Really you'll never notice the difference since it's so small.
also what the hell do you mean the smaller one?
They're both almost exactly the same size
>>58955123
you haven't needed to fuck up your links like that for a long ass time
Price seems fine, but shipping will probably be expensive as hell
I'd worry about throttling though, I have a w520 with the 1000m and the gpu throttles quite a bit under cpu + gpu load.
>>58955104
battery life
a not dogshit screen
wireless ac
a slightly less retarded keyboard layout
>>58955084
that was never an advertised feature, that was just a side effect of finally updating the design.
You can swap it with anything newer if you wanted.

>>58955826
NAS or external HDD kind of limits the portability of the machine. I'm looking for something all in one, I can't seem to find expresscard HDDs.

>>58955953
1. how the hell does a nas limit the portability of the thing?
you keep it at home and it should never need to be moved.
2. how often do you really need 1TB of on device storage? Just get a 500gb ssd and a 500-1TB external hdd for when you really need to move things around.
3. when have you ever seen a pcie hard drive?
And you do know that the slot for the express card is smaller than the hard drive bay right?
so even if one existed it would be one of those ghetto half length drives that are like 300gb max

>>58955826
>that was never an advertised feature, that was just a side effect of finally updating the design.
No, I don't mean that swapping was an intended feature. I mean that they removed the dedicated volume buttons for no justifiable reason, and that made the --40 models and later electrically incompatible with the old keyboards.

>>58956036
1. I'll be using my desktop mostly at home, the thinkpad is will mostly used when I'm away from home so a NAS isn't gonna do me much good.
2. I have a very very large library of ebooks and videos, pictures, documents, etc. I'm already easily over 1tb of stuff that isn't porn vids. Or vids period.
3. Yeah, you're right the expresscard thing was stupid, forgot about the size of the slot.

>>58956135
port forward. Especially for anything but videos you don't need a stupid fast connection to view them quickly

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>>58954537
/tpg/ told me to stay away from x-series tablets.

>>58956332
>tattoo in sanskrit aka poo-in-looian
Dropped

New x1 carbon gen5 is out

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon/

>>58956501
what the fuck is wrong with this webpage

>>58956589

idk anon works for me

>>58956589
Modern web design.
Many of today websites uses JS more than HTML/CSS in creating the site, making the site CPU intensive especially the older gen of CPUs.
IMO it's a way to force people to get new devices/laptops.

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>>58956501

into the trash it goes

>>58956703

but it looks so nice anon
i want one

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Is there a noticeable difference between the T430 14'' and the T530 15.6'' displays?

Also, is it easy enough to change an HDD to an SSD on any of these models?

That's what I'll do if I get one and keep HDD external.

>>58956674
>IMO it's a way to force people to get new devices/laptops.

Yeah, it's totally not to make a website completely responsive without the need for extra markup *pulls out tinfoil hat*.

Yeah I know, there are alternatives to JS when it comes to dynamic markups.

>>58956895
>tinfoil
Then it's shitty devs.
Have you seen facebook lately?
Core i5 spike when browsing it.

>>58956913
>Core i5 spike when browsing it.

Of all people, the owner of an old beat up core duo (me) would know that. That's why I barely even browse facebook nowadays and just go directly to the messenger webapp (which is also bloated). I just think the conspiracy theories are too far-fetched. It really is shitty devs who think they have to use every little state-of-the-art, dynamic complex tool to make a simple fucking website with a couple of asynchronous calls.

>>58956852
T530 owner. Extremely easy to install ssd. Even has m.2 or whatever

>>58956852
>Is there a noticeable difference between the T430 14'' and the T530 15.6'' displays?
The FHD panel on the T530 is bretty good. Look up some reviews that go over the gamut and brightness if you want a better idea.

>Also, is it easy enough to change an HDD to an SSD on any of these models?
>That's what I'll do if I get one and keep HDD external.
If you don't need the DVD drive then you can swap it out with a $5 caddy that allows you to have two 2.5" drives. Swapping out the original drive is as easy as it gets anyway since it's just in it's own compartment behind one screw.

>>58956895
The problem with Lenovo's website is that it isn't even dynamic or responsive, most pages are effectively static but they I still find it a nuisance that some of the products pages seem to dick around so much in the background that until the pages is loaded completely; anchors don't want to work and the entire page goes white for half a second just before it finally finishes loading.

can t430 run wrath of the lich king?

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Why are all SKU's so shit? I was fairly convinced to buy one but...

>1st one
Limited to 8GB RAM for no reason

>2nd one
Have to pay for WiGig for no reason, when you add 16GB RAM it costs about as much the 3rd one

>3rd one
Have to pay for i7 and a Windows 10 "pro" license.


And this is without mentioning that the hi res ips displays are delayed until june, OLED is yoga-only along with Iris graphics and 2133mhz ram

Fucking lenovo, they always find a way to ruin a good thing

>>58957063
What if you hit a "CUSTOMIZE" button?

>>58957063

is there a perk thing for EU?
i'm in the US so i just use that

>>58957074
I'm talking about what happens when you do hit the customize button

the 2nd sku can be upgraded to 16gb from 8, but the 1st can't

the 2nd can be downgraded from win10 pro to win10 home, but the 3rd can't

similarly you can't add wigig to any but the second, and LTE to any but third (or remove it from them)

>>58957075
idk, prices seem more sane in the US though

>>58956960
>The FHD panel on the T530 is bretty good. Look up some reviews that go over the gamut and brightness if you want a better idea.


>Display Size15.6 "
>Resolution1366 × 768 (HD)
>LED Backlight

I'm guessing this isn't it.

>>58957002
Why not? I was raiding that shit on a Pentium 4 and an AGP GeForce 6200.

>>58957144
Yeah, that panel is pretty awful, especially given the low resolution at 15"

1600x900 panel is covered here
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T530-2429-5XG-Notebook.78027.0.html
And the 1920x1080
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-W530-N1K43GE-Notebook.80062.0.html

>>58952468
I think so, but I'm not sure. There is a yuge lack of information about this thing

>>58955451
>>58955826
>>I meant the less capable CPU

Does battery life really sucks with both of them when using Linux?

If my t420 has a 1600x900 display does it mean it was upgraded?

>>58957520
It was a factory option.

Any experience with damaged laptops (small cracks, etc)? Are they a major problem at any point?

>>58952717
depends on your work flow
you can buy a dock and it will make it semi desktop

>>58954690
look for i7 qm cpu. Either 2nd or 3rd gen. But that ramps the price too

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So I got 128GB mSATA SSD

Since my partitioning is like this

NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:1    0   255M  0 part /boot
├─sda2   8:2    0  29.3G  0 part /
├─sda3   8:3    0 432.5G  0 part /home

And fdisk return this

Device     Boot     Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *         2048    524287    522240   255M 83 Linux
/dev/sda2          524288  61964287  61440000  29.3G 83 Linux
/dev/sda3        61964288 968904703 906940416 432.5G 83 Linux

I thought of running

dd bs=512K count=61964288 if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb

To copy the MBR, boot and root partitions and then format the rest of the unallocated space as ext4 and modify the fstab to mount it as /home then copy the dot files over to the mSATA SSD, then delete the rest of the partitions and resizing it, then modify the fstab to have the /home/Downloads on the HDD.

Anyone did something like that?

>>58936826
What does /TPG/ has to say about the X201?

>tfw too poor to get replacement RAM for my T420

How do I decide if I want a Tablet or a Ebook reader?

I want to read books on it but I also want to watch youtube

>>58958958
x230t is pretty bulky in tablet mode but that's me

>>58958748
get a job, brah

Just a quick question:

Are the hinges of X220 and X230 interchangeable?

>>58958676
>16:10 screen
>build quality closer to IBM level than today's Thinkpads
>CPU strong enough for modern tasks
It's a great laptop

>>58959657
>CPU strong enough for modern tasks

lol

I'm going to buy 1600x900 display for my T420.
I'm looking at:
N140FGE-LA2 Rev.C2
N140FGE-L32 Rev.C1
LTN140KT12
What should I choose?

>>58959750
From what I've seen the most widely availabe configuration is a 2.4GHz i5 dual core. In what world is that not sufficient for modern computing? I know the CPU is old but I'm not talking multiple VMs here. The X201 hasn't been designed for power users. It's an office machine. You can write stuff on it. You can do spreadsheet. It can play 1080p YouTube videos. What more do you expect from a 12" subnotebook?

>>58959836
>You can write stuff on it. You can do spreadsheet. It can play 1080p YouTube videos. What more do you expect from a 12" subnotebook?

So, it's not great. Just a normal laptop.

>>58959848
A normal laptop with better build quality than most laptops on the market today, including Thinkpads and Macbooks, at a better price than anything you can buy new.

>>58959891
With a trackpoint that is far superior to any trackpad ever concieved

>>58959186
I have one. Hospital bills are a bitch though.

>>58959918
Then why did you get cancer in the first place? Retard.

>>58959918
one of not many things I don't like about america - no mandatory health insurance

>>58959822
it's same shit that 768p is. I mean, if these are the factory ones. I've heard that they put good 14" panel in x1 carbon and alienware mx14 r2 that fit into t420, so you might search for those ( 140WD2 or something like that)

>>58960138
Yeah, I know about it. But I can't find it on aliexpress or in local stores. I can't order from ebay here.

>>58960185
nothing there? https://www.laptopscreen.com/

Damn, there's always something to ramp up the price. If it has a good CPU, the screen is shit. If the screen is good, it has HDD. If it has SSD, it's got the screen scratched... I just want a 3rd gen i5, SSD, 8GB RAM Thinkpad with a decent screen under 300€, but it's turning out to be impossible.

>>58960211
yuropoor, btw

>>58960219
i've seen plenty of such under 300

>>58960246
not with postage and minimal damage. I dare you to find one.

>>58960208
Come on, I'm in Russia, they won't ship here.

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>>58960280
>2010 + 7
>living in Russia

got an X220t in the mail yesterday but about 10 minutes after I turned it on, it promptly bricked itself for some reason.

returning it today, gonna order a regular (and cheaper) x220 from vertexpc and give that a shot

>>58960255
ask seller if he will ship wherever you are. That's roughly 270 euro. I'm sure sending it to anywhere in europe is less than 30 euro http://allegro.pl/lenovo-t430-intel-i5x2-53ghz-8gb-ssd-usb-3-0-gw-i6616582081.html

>>58960298
Stop bullying.

>>58960280
They won't? They have russian version of the site, so maybe they will?

>>58960357
Sorry, ruskie friend. I'm not in Russia, but I'm poor, so yeah.

>>58960349
thanks, but how the fuck would I find something on a polish website in the first place?

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195.159 US Dollar should i? im tempted

>>58960392
he brought these from Germany, so maybe try ebay.de, lol

>>58960363
Well, maybe they will, but it'll cost extra. Also if they will send with FedEx, the customs will hold it and ask me make customs clearance myself (no idea why, but I've been there), it's just not worth it.

I better choose something between
N140FGE-LA2 Rev.C2
N140FGE-L32 Rev.C1
LTN140KT12
and would gladly use the less shitty one.

>>58960185
>can't order from ebay in Russia

how's that - is that a matter of some local customs etc regulations, or is it that many ebay sellers just wont send to russia?

>>58960419
Almost every seller will not ship it. People are using 'virtual' mail adresses (en.polexp.com for example), but they cost extra.
And I can't even imagine the delivery time.

>>58958676
>>58959657
>>58959750
>>CPU strong enough for modern tasks
>lol
well Arrandale is perfectly usable unless you wanna do some real heavy graphics work or something. And 16:10 is comfy indeed. You might want to hunt for an X201s, they've 900x1440 screens, but are rare and hence can be pricey.
Anyhow, imvho it's not wise to pay for an X201 more than half of what you would pay for an X230 or some two thirds of X220. X201s are different story, they're so rare that if you really want one you can't be picky about the price.

>>58947285
Bump

>x61s
>win 10
>Beautiful ultra-light thinkpad - tablet weight but with a proper IBM keyboard, and a proper operating system :-)
alright, which one of you was this?

>>58960645
>Win 10 on X61s
jesus christ that's masochistic!

>>58960724
its the "proper operating system :-) " that tipped me off
>tfw thats £80 in bongistan

I'm tempted to buy z61p? It's only 35$
it has 1900x1200p screen, but there's a problem with backlight of it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sounds like an easy fix. Besides that, visually it looks ok. On the other hand, it might be too old for modern use (t7200). What do you think?

>>58960409
wtf is with that keyboard

>>58960937
whats wrong with it

>>58960904
>z61p
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

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>>58960937
>>58961189
it's german QWERTZ

>>58961251
Z are premium too.

I see that IPS screens for x220 are being sold separately at some places

Is it too difficult to install, or does it just involve opening the thing and reassembling it?

>>58961290
Nope, that's some other QWERTZ.

>>58961251
Fucking retard newfag.

>>58960904
Get it. The performance is dated though.

>>58960462
>'virtual' mail adresses (en.polexp.com for example)
polexp are based in US, so yeah, delivery may take some time. isn't there anybody in russia doing such thing from, say, germany?
like, we have these guys
http://www.lbss.lv/index.php?cmd=10

>>58961302
>>58961396
Hey, no reason to go rude. So do Z's have alloy chassies/bodies, too?

>>58961500
Yes. They were the premium "media consumption" thinkpads.
Theor selling point was having a 16:9 1080p screen when no one fucking had it.

>>58961515
heh, who would have thought. why are Z's 'scriminated in the /tpg/ copypasta, then?

>>58961365
its QWERTY with stickers on it

>>58961631
Because they are discontinued, there are no modern Z thinkpads.

It's me or the drivers from lenovo website are gone? Do you happen to know any mirror?

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So, I'm having overheatting problems with my x220T. I already cleaned it and reaply thermal paste/pad, reinstalled Windows (tried in linux too, almost the same temps) and I'm pretty sure 80°C+ in iddle isn't right, anything that I should check or thinkpad is dying?

tfw browsing /tpg/ from comfy bed with my x220

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I just bought a refurb grade A x230 for $160, how'd I do /g/ents?

>>58962964
Has 8gb ram and a tumor battery.

>>58957063
they still use ddr3 in skylake/kaby lake?

>>58963002
>tumor battery
Good
>8gb
Good

>>58962788
You must be doing something insane.

There is a bug with 16gb of memory + an eGPU but if you were doing that you'd've mentioned it so I've got no idea.

One way to reduce heat is to cap the max processor frequency so it can't go into turbo boost, but 80 degrees at idle is insane. It must be fucked somehow, must've applied the paste wrong or not put enough pressure on the heatsink.

>>58936826
I can get a T440p with 256gb ssd, i7 4710, 16gb ram for 320€. Problem is there is a bootup password. Any idea on how to remove it ?

Do thinkpad batteries use 18650 cells?

My 6 cell x230t battery is a 6 cell rated at 6600 mah. Can I replace the cells with 3000 or 4200 mah 18650s and get insane life out of the same area? Or am I dumb?

>>58963270
The 16gb I put were to see if it was the same (I usually have 8gb installed), I underclocked the memories but not change at all with the temps and yea I don't use eGPU. I'm pretty sure that I didn't messed up with the paste, I cleaned it and repasted because getting the temps, not otherwise. Plus isn't the first time but I've never had any overheatting problems, the only way that I can really use it at the moment is on "Power Saver Mode" and it stays on 40-50ish, as before in regular use.

I've spent 2 days now trying to "solve" this problem, but I got no options left even the fan spins just as new. That's why I wanted to ask for any ideas here

>>58963544
Heatpipe may be defective? Is the heatsink polished at all?

>>58963544
Actually keep an eye on the processor clock, "idle" isn't the same as minimum processor use. 85 degrees is about what you should expect for a x230 going like the clappers, it's what mine does when running a game with 100% cpu & gpu.

>>58945550
>No IBM logo
Even if it did fit in, you still shouldn't use it.

>Probably wouldn't though, isn't T60 a 15.1 inch screen?

>looking into buying a ThinkPad for dat keyboard
>nobody in this general even mentions the latest lines

Did it all go to shit or something?

>>58938389
Wait for T470, it will have thunderbolt 3 which is a feature actually worth waiting for.

>X270 won't have thunderbolt 3 thanks to Lenovo being a bunch of fucking idiots REEEEEEEEE

>>58963683
Yeah I looked but it stays at 10-20 tops, and if I try to run any 1080p video or any game like this war of mine or something light it just crashes at 95°C+

>>58963315
solder in new bios chip. You can get them on aliexpress

>>58963701
pretty much every chinkpad after xx30 series is shit

>>58963701
anything past the 3rd gen can no longer fit the classic keyboard and instead has something mechanically not much worse, but through stupid key placement and shedding of features entirely less special and worth buying a Thinkpad for. May as well get one of the fancier Dells or a Fujitsu that'll have a better balanced feature set if the keyboard's no longer a selling point.

>>58963970
Says on ebay it doesnt remove the bios password

>>58964039
what?

>>58942781
u got cucked m8

>>58964157
I searched for the chips on ebay and it said in the description that replacing the chip wouldnt remove the password

>>58964445
interesting. It could be done with 3rd gen elitebook
I see there's no clear solution for t440

New thread:
>>58964753