Technology Careers and Mental Illness

>>58917849
I'm working at a technology company which employs 300+ people. I know about 100 of them pretty good and vast majority of them are total normies. From devs and testers to TLs and DLs, normies everywhere.

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U say illness or disorder
I say personality

>>58917849

Being mentally stable is normie shit.

>>58917937
Saying the word "normie" is pleb shit.

>>58917966
saying pleb is retard shit

look at that photoshopped butt

>>58918051
>defending playground tier insults
>arguing against a word which has been part of the English language for hundreds of years
Stay new, faggot

I have schizophrenia. My doctor did tests on me and told me I shouldn't go to college or work because I don't function well enough.

I'm on neetbux with no plans on doing anything at all ever.

i'm currently in college majoring in computer engineering and i'm completely stable

i've never once had to take medication other than for rashes and shit when i was little. although i do agree slightly with that, but i think most of the people wanting to go into video game development (especially indieshit) are mentally unstable

I don't have any mental problems, but... I don't consider myself a normal person desu. mostly because I'm reclusive, a-social, and literally have never had a gf (I'm almost 30)

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developer with depression here, can't say i don't disagree

>>58918111
>no plans on doing anything at all ever
yet you post in a thread about careers. back to r9k

>>58917849
This image makes me depressed

>>58918158
Most webdevs are total normalfags.

I don't know much about real programmers because I have not been around them.

t. webdev that hates his job and his coworkers

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>>58918158

whoops, OPs picture put me off

i def agree with the post

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>>58917849

>>58918201
Why?

>>58918477
not him, but it also depresses me, because I'm lonely as hell, and completely socially retarded

Technology centered careers generally don't involve talking to people, which is generally a hard thing to deal with for most mentally ill people.
So naturally they seek them out.

>>58918578
I don't find this to be true in practice. Every technology job I've encountered so far has still required a lot of interaction with other people. The best employees are the ones who are good at both technical problems and dealing with people.

>>58918563
I see, I'm sorry man

>>58917849
>Urge to procreate intensifies

>>58917849
Look around at your fellow-posters and reflect on whether it was a good idea to insult them all.

>>58918111
Mediocrity is worse.

Yes, at the several different jobs I had from my network admin job to the several programming or web dev jobs I have, every single one of my coworkers were soft bodies genetic wastes that honestly shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Since I lived with my parents while I was working I saved pretty much 100 % of my money and was able to outright buy a house and two cars and was right on a few of my stock investments, so I never have to work again. Teaching myself to draw and paint with all my free time so I'll be able to make some money doing commissions when I'm good enough.
I refuse to work with in tech ever again unless it's my own company, even then I would hate the people I hire.

>>58917849
OP,

A lot of mental illness has to do with how you interact with other people. There's some portion of mentally ill people who would fine in a vacuum, but do terrible in a crowd. (AKA, most autistic people)

Technology jobs allow you to avoid some of that, and cater to personality types that are already avoiding some amount of interaction.

It's not just techlogy --- a lot of manual labor is rife with mental illness. Some crab boat dudes spend the majority of the year not working, and also drunk.

>>58917849
>Fit cutie with dogshit on her shoes
That's my fetish!

>>58920902
She demands that you lick her shoes clean. Do you?

>>58921169
Dogshit is a firm no, but if it was her own I'd consider it.

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>>58917966
>>58918051
>>58918081
it's pronounced 'plebe' you plebeian faggets.

>>58920902
thats part of the pattern, idiot

its a base sole color and black accents

>>58917849
in the UK, specifically, computer programmers are treated like dirt. There is absolutely no respect for the profession

>>58917849
>mental illness
A bullshit catchall term to commoditize non-normies and make money by selling them pharmaceuticals.

PROTIP: There is an ocean of difference between someone with clinical depression and a schizophrenic

Half of all psychology research can't be replicated, why do you still trust this shit?

OCD is a reoccurring disability I have noticed among the brightest people I've met. In some cases it's almost crippling, but insanely beneficial to their jobs.

>>58921986
Seems similar with ADHD types and their ability to 'hyperfocus', I work in tech and there's a lot of people who claim to have ADHD, not sure how many are just pretending for meds tho

Not saying that all crazy people are smart, or that all people with technology careers are smart, but there's a lot of evidence in studies that people with higher IQs are at much greater risk for major-depressive, bipolar, and schizophrenia disorders.

This could be due to inherited dopamine receptors. From studies today, we observe that DRD4 has stronger correlations to ADHD, higher IQ, Depression, and Schizophrenia. DRD1 by contrast has less mental disorders linked to it, however it has a stronger correlation to being cognitively slow.

>>58921986
where you have more levels of checking than any program

>>58922171
Lelel

>>58917849
It's just you

That said, I have HFA and have been working with computers since I was 10

>>58917849
Can't confirm. All my issue are rooted back in early childhood and I haven't really seen a computer before junior high.

>>58921901
It's 100% poop.

I have OCD and been programming since I was 8. Do it to keep my mind occupied. Sometimes though I can't function because I get caught in thought loops.

>>58917849
incoming blog post:

isolation does weird things to your brain. One of the reasons I got into technology was because I moved around a lot and usually when you move it takes a while to get that first friend.

I never had social anxiety or felt depression until a period of isolation that happened during a summer when I had no one to really talk to. Single mom, worked two jobs. was completely alone. It fucked with me for a long time.

I stopped wanting to be around people because I was so use to being by myself that there was comfort in it. Took me a long time to shake that and it's still there. I'd still rather go home and internet than go out and do pretty much anything.

That said 90% of people taking computer science courses at a university are spreglords. I'd rather hang out with normies.

>>58917918
having a mental illness is normie shit these days.

>>58924826
>Single mom
Die

>>58917849

Tech careers often involve purely rational, data-driven components which unconsciously draw individuals seeking some form of stability and solace within a predictable and functional outcome in a world often considered vague.

Another factor could be electromagnetic interference, brains could be stimulated by EMI fields.

>>58918074
According to this website
https://29a.ch/sandbox/2012/imageerrorlevelanalysis/
it isn't photoshopped.

>>58925158
OP you should talk to this guy. He's fucking weird and crazy.

>>58917966
t. Normie

Was diagnosed with schizophrenia once.

Recreational programming has always been a necessary outlet. I can work in employment but I need my personal "useless" programming to stay sane. So I work part-time.

>>58925278
>unconsciously draw individuals seeking some form of stability
Interesting and probably true hypothesis.

>>58918113
Pretty much this but they're the kind of people to spend all day working at it and getting gud. Meanwhile I'm just a shitposting faggot with electrical training I probably won't use. And felony records so I probably can't get a "real" IT jerb.
I should have just poo'd in loo.

>>58924826
fuck anon, are you me? my single mother was a contractor, so i moved every year since i was 12 until i moved out on my own at 20. i dont know if it was the same for you, but i just kinda gave up on having any friends, because i knew that i wouldnt see them again, and eventually they all stop responding to your texts and calls. the one exception is a friend that i made when i was 12, i started talking to him again before i moved out and weve been living together for a year. the only reason i mentioned it is because anymore i just want to be alone more than i want to be around him. its troubling because i dont even want to be around somebody who i consider to be my bestfriend.

have you ever made any life long friends? how often are you around people?

I don't talk to other people in computer science because I find them all pathetic. They just want a degree.
You would think this correlates highly with them being normie scum, but this phenomenon seems to occur with all types of people, from the weebs, to the gaymers, to the normies, and even to the full-on autists.
However, the primary differentiating factor I've found between competent and incompetent CS students is how old they are.
Older students (they are going back to college) without exception do very well in class. Younger students almost unequivocably do worse. There are exceptions, but I don't count on them.

Putting some thought to it, this phenomenon obviously has nothing to do with age. It's merely a matter of discipline. Older people going back to college have it, and younger people are still essentially children. Some, once reaching upper division classes, grow out of it. Most don't.

tl;dr young students are mostly pathetic and not worth being colleagues with. Friends maybe, colleagues no. When it comes to classes, I don't mix them together.

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>>58922171
getting paid to check things.
Some day.

>>58921288
What if she lets you lick her shit out of her asscrack if you lick the dogshit off of her shoes first.

>>58925386
Yeah when my parents were together we stayed in the same place for until I was like 9. Still talk to some of those folks, mainly because we moved back there 3 times. I got to rekindle those friendships over and over again.

Now my friends where I live now are all married and have kids and I don't want any part in that shit. So I'm more alone now than I used to be because I'm old and people moved on to the next chapters.

Hang out with my best bro about three times a week. So not very social really. Still single because I don't get out of the house enough to do activities where you actually meet people.

>>58925692
Why would you want a relationshit?
Even pussy isn't worth it, it will fuck up your emotions, any kind of routine or mojo you have going on, and the rest of your world given time.

>>58917849
>weirdly common
No. There's nothing "weird" about it, certain types of people lend themselves to working with computers better, and those types of people are often mentally ill in one way or another.

>>58917937
>Being mentally stable is normie shit.
You think normies don't get mental illness? Hahaha. I guess at the point they get it they do being normies though.

>>58922017
Adhd is a myth. Of course you do better if you're on amphetamines. But look these meds are working. Of course they are you retarded drug addict.

I'm a junior webdev. If I could buy a gun here in the EU, I would blow my brains out instantly. I'm currently on SSRIs (I was diagnosed wih depression, not self medicating) and they help, but I'm definitely not normal and never will be.

I hate my life so much

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>>58917849
No, I do not feel it. What I do feel is that you will never forget "that one guy" and how everybody likes to talk about him being weird. Which puts other 99 guys to shame for no reason.

>>58926029
>I'm a junior webdev. If I could buy a gun here in the EU, I would blow my brains out instantly. I'm currently on SSRIs (I was diagnosed wih depression, not self medicating) and they help, but I'm definitely not normal and never will be.
>I hate my life so much
Self medicating.
Ssris.
Faggot detected.

>>58917849
I can't say I completely agree, the people I work with are complete normies, type of people who have no interest in Tech other than in the office, though maybe the guy that's in Photography who buy expensive shit but other than that, no.

>>58917849
three dee is peeg deesgusting

>>58917849

who cares how nice her ass is, she is probably a cunt

and if she isn't, bless her heart, but she certainly isn't going to date anyone who isn't a 6'4 adonis child volunteering 8" dick god

I'm telling you bros, you gotta get over your hot chick fear by just hiring a super fucking escort and banging the shit out of her

suddenly you'll realize they are not the be all end all of existence

>>58926224
You sound like you have some sort of mental disorder by being so upset that some of your coworkers don't care about tech outside of work.

>>58926324
Okay Mr. Autismo, where exactly on my post, where I stated distate for my workers for having no interest of tech outside of work? Think before you post you jobless nigger.

>>58926284
>she is probably a cunt
I feel bad for you that you automatically assume this about any attractive girl.

>>58918051
>>58918051
什么?

>>58926440
>I feel bad for you that you automatically assume this about any attractive girl.

Not him, but hot chicks are usually stuck up since they got everything handed to them on a silver platter, until real-life hits them in the ass when they turn 30.

Not all are, of course, but I'd say it was 50%

>>58922100
Hence why the black population is usually not linked with these troubles.

>>58926545
Phone fucked up my post whatever. Average chicks are the best because they have personality.

>>58926570
What constitutes average? I do get what you're saying however. But I would like a formal or empirical definition.

>>58917849
It's not technology, you fucking tard

Everyone has a mental illness in 2017 and too many people can't shut up about it. It's just the fashion.

>>58917849
>honest question
>attention grabbing ass

>>58921862
pleb? pleeb? plee-bey? plee-bee? p'leeb? p'lee-bey? p'lee-bee?

>>58926713
this, mental defects and hating white people are in right now

>>58927658
>Why do they hate me so?
Oh look it's the eternal pigskin again

>>58927683
i think you have me confused with someone else

There's a study that links depression with logical thinking

Fucking dunning-kruger normies man

>>58928001
>ftw not dumb enough to be happy

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To develop serious mental conditions, one must have something traumatic or something bad happen at an early age and must have a certain level of intelligence to be able to abstract these issues they've experienced into mental illness. This isn't a blanket statement but it can be true for a lot of people. So I feel like those who experienced something traumatic but did not abstract away the experience were kind of lucky to not suffer from mental disorders but are stuck with the worse fate of being a normalfag.

t. a software dev with multiple personality disorder.

I have depersonalization, I can interact normally with people but I feel like it isn't something important, so I don't have any relationship (which I consider important) while working. To me it was just a matter of accepting who you are and your problems, and try to live normally with them.
If you try to have healthy habits even having some mental illness, it helps to relieve some stress of your mind.
Of course this is just my personal experience.

>>58917849
>it is becoming a trope in movies and television

It always been, from Wargame (1983) to Pi (1998) going through tv shows like IT Crowd and shit, it's always the same depictation of socially awkward people, isolated, misunderstood genius, etc.

Who started first, the actual IT people or the memes ?

Steven Levy in his book "Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution" do mentions these early CS students clubs who went full maverick on technology and would rather bone a PDP-1 at night instead of doing what a "normally constituted being" would do at that age (that includes taking a shower on a daily basis). But hey, passion.

Now to say there's a tendency to mental issue in IT, I have to say that is chop logic.

>>58931415
there have been media with cool/socially/generally-pretty-normal depictions of hackers, like hackers (1995) and the matrix

>>58928764
multiple personality disorder isn't in the DSM anymore because it isn't a real disorder.

>tfw borderline and software engineer/systems engineer

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>>58917849
autism is a superpower :)

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>>58917849
junior network engineer with BPD reporting in
I don't cut, I just got some issues with controlling my emotions and not being controlled by them. Used to be worse though

>>58931633
>tfw you are actually autistic
Most people at my job are at that awkward spot between nerd and normalfag. I hoped people would be more like me before I started working.

>>58931633
>asuku

>>58931774
I'm full nerd but I'm good at pretending to be normie. Being hispanic helps hide the /pol/ too.

>they never expect the spanish inquisition.

>>58917849
It's very common in Music too, but we just drink and smoke the bad feelings away. Computer people seem to have a larger tendency to stay sober than fill their heads with medication instead.

>>58931633
For programming it literally is

>>58932138
Its hard to do computer/math/engineering without major failures when not-sober or hungover. So it weeds out people who do that. Except for fake adhd'er.

Perhaps. A psychiatrist said I was anxious and depressed, and maybe that's true, but he just seemed like a drug pusher, as most are, so I stopped taking medication. Literally no positive effects. I either couldn't cum or I had night terrors every couple nights.

Also, I would lick her asshole. Even if she didn't wipe.

>>58921862
this
long E pleeb master race

>>58925359
if you don't mind me asking, do you get by alright, with just part-time pay? how many hours per week?

>>58917849
I want to suck on her sweaty anus post-jog

I have ADHD, could be a lot worse.

>>58918111
Pretty good if you ask me.

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>>58917849
Honestly it is something I've wondered too. I'm at the point where I'm wondering if the career atrracts mental illness, or if the career can trigger the mental illness. I suspect it may be a bit of both.

>>58918690
normie identified

>>58925114
this is true. why do u think everyone gets drunk when they hangout together? people cant stand each other sober

>>58924826
Same here. I was close to normie-tier, until I lost my job and gf and became isolated.

That's when depression set it, and later, gradually, it led to anxiety.

Now I have to take some pills to keep it under control. Some days I could probably go without pills, but getting off SSRIs is not something you can do abruptly. And if you have to restart taking them, it's going to take at least a week to see any effects.

Anxiolytics are different, their effect is more immediate.

Hopefully, I will find a job that will get me out of this hole. Then maybe I will be able to get off pills, because anorgasmia sucks. I get boners but I can't even cum, because SSRIs mess with your serotonine system, and your dick needs serotonine to feel the nut bustin.

At this point I'm so desperate, I'd probably marry the next nice girl I meet.

I am sorry. But in the US, you are either taking medications or religious. Those two are what we call normies. The people who do not take medication or partake in any religious activities are normally people in computer science, IT and such.

>>58935926
>but getting off SSRIs is not something you can do abruptly
Before I started weening off of them, I stopped taking them for a few days. I experienced what I guess are called brain zaps. There was sort of a delay between my actions and thoughts. It was strange. Medication is crazy, honestly. It should be avoided whenever possible. And it was great being able to cum again!

I am nearly graduating from compsci and I am not totally normie, but almost there. I know there are a lot of autistic things wrong with me, I've been able to get by, but if i ever start to talk my autism gets out of hand so I can usually get by as just the quiet person.

I know there is some intrinsic thing keeping me from getting good at software/programming/anything because I know the difference between someone who is good or genuinely interested in technology and someone who is me. It could be a plethora of things. I also think about killing myself and my parents a lot.

>>58918111
how much do you get a month?

>>58925158
You're a faggot.

>>58925476
Never hard to spot the adolescent.

>>58917918
I have a very healthy social life and a ton of friends who enjoy being around me, but the second I get home I turn into Mr. Robot, get really depressed and really fucked up to the point that I can't feel.

>>58926547
......also why they don't shoot up schools and movie theaters.

>>58935926
jesus bro, try lifting weights and meditating instead...that shit sounds awful

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>IT company of ~5000
>frequent rotation of people, especially on lowest positions
>word has is we statistically lose one or two people a month because of mental health
>I'm juggling two projects and working weekends for them delicious overtimes

>>58935926
>>58936106
I stopped taking them and it was great for awhile: boundless energy, needing an average of 3 hours sleep a night, plus being able to cum in under 2 hours.

I feel like I'm a nerd too, I play a lot of candy crush and I helped my mom get her email working. I'm just like those guys on big bang hahaha

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>>58917849
The field definitely requires a certain kind of autism and self hate.

bumpo for interesting topic/thread

>very "existential" people

what does this even mean? Maybe OP has the mental illness.

I haven't seen anything like that working as a software dev in Australia. Some guys on the autism spectrum, but no schizos, bipolars or anything.

>>58939104
Existentialism is defined as such "a philosophical theory or approach that emphasizes the existence of the individual person as a free and responsible agent determining their own development through acts of the will."
So, essentially it means that you are in control of yourself and your actions are controlled by yourself.

>>58917849
I have BPD and OCD and I'm currently a compsci student so probably.

>>58932198
I've gotten through computer engineering using various hard drugs every day. Even though I am a senior with a 4.0, I feel like I have fucked my neurotransmitters to the point where I am not as sharp and have lost the ability to be quick on my feet when interacting with people. Feels bad man :(

>>58917849
Considering Office Space could've been a documentary, do you blame them?

>>58925947
Confirmed also confirming diabetes as a myth.

I think that a lot of us had some problems while growing up either from genetics or environment, and instead of properly dealing with them we escaped to computers. We then gained a large amount of experience with computers, which led to us pursuing a degree in a related field.

>>58935926
You are better than this. I use to be like you, stop taking SSRI's. Otherwise you will be shit for the rest of you life. At least try out SNRI's or explore other options. You need to become your own doctor, and figure out what works for you. Don't settle for something that you aren't happy with.

Modern society is fundamentally damaging to the mind because of the fracture and alienation of communities. Most people lack deep ties to more than 4-5 other people and spend most of their time in strange states of solitude even when they are "with" other people.

Something we ignore because it is inconvenient to address is that civilization is not a natural state of man and the structures that it has created are not optimized for the health of the individual.

>>58939956
>Office Space could've been a documentary
the one bit about working in an office being mundane and boring is true for some companies, but was more common in the 90s. don't exaggerate and conflate shit.

>>58917849
It's a presupposition. I know antisocial people in IT, not many others.

It is a presupposition to enjoy being at home coding instead of going out. "I'm not enough of a nerd to learn this" is an actual and accurate excuse.

As for "mental illness", I have seen more mental illness in social studies and such like.

>>58941458
and such like what?

>>58921862
More like "pluh-BEE-yen". Personally, I was influenced by my native tongue until today, I always thought it was "pleh-Bay-anne".

>tfw writing IPA into 4chan is not a thing
This is also for >>58927634

>>58941507
if you want to shorten it you can just say pleb, but I feel that most people who use pleb now are actually the people that pleb started out referring to.

>>58917849
I'm bipolar and 4th year CS. It basically runied my entire life. Became a fat NEET 4chan user. Not really a NEET because of school, but it's online from a non-meme university I used to go to physically.

My life is sad and tragic.

>>58917849
Well I have cyclothymia and from my experience you don't land a normal job when you're mentally ill.

>>58941539
How did you get into CS and what was your life before that?

>>58939943
What kinda drugs?

https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyL9EC0S0c

>>58941636
pre-pharmacy

>>58926029
Have you considered going into functional programming?

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I've been ok

Though some evenings I'll panic about how everything I own is being hacked, all the dumb shit I might have clicked on when I was a dumb youngster and it still somehow getting back to me to kick me in the ass, it'll be this big anxiety attack

and the next morning I'm right as rain

Most tards I work with smoke bowls of cannabis a day and come into work fucked up and wonder why they're treated with the shit jobs.

Whereas I work out for a measly hour and study for fun and now I'm learning the business infrastructure and come into work feeling healthy and amazing. It's literally one hour of time to get your ass into shape. Nothing wrong with weed but to me it's more like bragging about buying Tylenol at a Walgreens.

>>58917849
>I want to dive inside the asshole of her

Came here to post this.

>>58935926
Failed normie

>>58941437
Look at societies in Asia, they are much more communal. Although there's lots of gossip looking for the next village idiot.

>>58941739
this is why I don't want to take compsci

>>58917932
That's so 50's

Did you watch "the age of the Self"?

>>58941674
Heroin, tobacco, and weed everyday for the past 6 years, meth occasionally, prescription opiates, benzos, alcohol, pretty much everything on the occasion with heroin being my doc. I don't know if I will be able to fully recover, you don't hear of hard drug abuse much in this field so I am worried I have fucked myself. Anyone else ave any experience with this?

>>58918111
>I have schizophrenia
What is it like?

>>58936781
I have been through the grinder.

There is nothing like two simultaneous death march projects that everyone outside the project immediately understands are heading for the abyss with all hands.

>be me
>be in quality assurance
>be naive and do a thorough job based on previous career in research thinking mgmt want what they, well, actually have demanded
>do not realise mistake and double speak - yet
>report crew heading for the tubes, projects are about to implode and root cause is that everyone are worn out like a crew on a Roman slave ship
>notice lack of enthusiasm in mgmt.
>project crash, customer scream
>second project goes down in flames, customer screaming blue murder
>worse: disgruntled customers begin networking and notice a pattern in the company
>all prospective contracts dry up
>mass firings begin
>everyone ready to sleep for 100 years to recover
>leave
>see sunlight for the first time in ages.


So yes, tech jobs attract madmen, mainly in the management layers that offer opportunities for psychopathic exercises.

>>58945797
>not just slacking off and pretending to work during a failing project

Do you even wagecuck?

>>58918111
>I have skizofrenia.
>my doctor dold me not do
Fucking liar.

>>58917849
case in point - all the disgusting trannies who are in tech

>>58917849
Its true:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4717757/

They indeed lack of B12, which makes mental illness

>>58947879

"Vitamin B12 deficiency is prevalent amongst IT professionals, despite the high income & varying dietary habits. Iatrogenic factors causing B12 deficiency were long term use of PPI and Metformin. Clinicians should have high index of suspicion for identifying & treating of Vit B12 deficiency in such population."

>>58918111
what are your favorite videogames

>>58947879
>>58947922

Where can I get this b12?

>>58948015

There are two active forms of B12. I reccommend to use both:

https://www.amazon.com/Solgar-Vitamin-Nuggets-1000-Count/dp/B00020IAPA/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487107678&sr=1-1&keywords=solgar%2Bb12&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Lozenges-Adenosylcobalamin-Methylcobalamin-Seeking-Health/dp/B01F82BOL8/ref=sr_1_2_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487107720&sr=1-2&keywords=adenosylcobalamin

>>58948158

Did a mistake with the second brand.

Here is adenob12 only brand:

https://www.amazon.com/Adenosylcobalamin-Mitochondrial-Allergens-Seeking-Health/dp/B00E0OXZEU/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487107720&sr=1-1&keywords=adenosylcobalamin

>>58936004
Holy shit, I never thought of it like this.

>>58948321
God-damnit! That really sparks the neurons.

>>58941406
>stop taking SSRI's. Otherwise you will be shit for the rest of you life

What do you mean by this? Don't SSRI secondary effects disappear after you stop taking them? After a while, at least.

>>58917849
You'd have to be crazy to put up with this shit everyday, so yes

>>58947879
Eat more meat guys

>>58948015
>Stores of B12 can last for up to a year. Foods high in Vitamin B12 include shellfish, liver, fish, crab, fortified soy products (tofu, soymilk), fortified cereals, red meat, low fat dairy, cheese, and eggs.
https://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/foods-high-in-vitamin-B12.php
eat paté

>>58945291
Alcoholic here, 31 and sober but it sucks. Fapped multiple times daily for 16 years too, fapped my life away.
>31 with some kinda shit electrical degree and no motivation
>currently staying at home being mommy's good boy
>need to get going on a job search/resume but I'm just "taking it easy" after graduation in December
fuck this reads like an 8/9k/ thread

>>58921862
>>58917849
as you can see this site is full of pedos too which is kind of a mental illness

>>58917849
Im what your are describing but i dont want to go far anywhere.

>>58950237
And yet people who eat those foods can still get b12 deficiencies. It's literally only $4 to supplement it for a year and you only have to take it once per week sublingually.

>>58917849

There seems to be a correlation between tech-savy people and 'mental illness' because people who didn't get along with others as a kid ended up studying something that wasn't:

How to Get in Stacey's Pants:
Losing Your Virginity and Why You NEED to Do It Now
(A Guide to Normie Life)

So there probably IS a statistical correlation. I am not sure you would call it a direct causation though.

>>58952959
exactly.
there are a lot of co-factors you need to absorb B12 trough intestines. For example stomach acid, intristic factor and thyroid hormones, Once someone got deficient with B12 it is impossible to refill your storage only with meat.

Due tons of chemicals B12 storages are depleted very fast as well.
so fucking buy that shit and it saves you tons of $$$ later on medical bills.

>>58935745
It's not the career triggering the illness, I promise you.

As far as the opinion of society goes...
Yes, I work in a 'tech job'.
Yes, I have 'mental disorders/illnesses'.
The job didn't change me though. I was like this before.

>Autistic, says every shrink I've ever been to. (And it's been a lot... holy shit.)
>Depression and anxiety problems, according to every shrink I've ever seen.
They diagnosed the 'autism' thing at like, 5 or something? I don't even know how you tell at that age if it's 'high-functioning'... but whatever I'm not the head-doc.
The depression and anxiety stuff was slapped on there at like... 11?

>>58917849
I hate everyone, still i'm "trying" to stray away from the more technical side.

I can say i'm pretty "normal" but the IT people i met in my past IT techical/software side have massive overinflated ego issues that reflected on everything they do or touch. I think this has something to do with "cool nerds" culture.

Which kind of reminds me of obnoxius grease monkey who over estimated how a shitty car can fit a huge ass turbo that output with so much lag.

I guess i'm in the wrong field.

>>58953430
Depression and anxiety, I think, come from dealing with too many assholes and such. Depression is probably learned from just seeing the outcome of everything as shit, so why bother?
Just generalizations but my .02

>>58953430
If kids speak before the age of 3 it's aspergers otherwise it's autism that usually goes hand in hand with lowered IQ. Should people 'outgrow' heavier cases of autism they are reclassified as high-functioning. Unfortunately high-functioning and aspergers are often used interchangeably even by professionals. Moreover depression is strongly represented as a comorbidity in autistic people probably due to life being very difficult especially when undiagnosed.

>>58948015
Energy drinks. Shits water soluble so if drink too much your piss becomes green

>>58953930
>>58954100
wtf do your resarch.

Depression comes from high cortisole, low serotonine, low norepinephrine, low dopamine.

Anxiety comes from low gaba and high glutamate.


all that psychological nonsense talk makes me sick.... its like a new religion that suddenly explains everything. No proof is needed, it must only make sense. a redflag for bullshit

>>58954595
Interesting. I feel as though I have both, maybe it's just the spergers

>>58917849
Most people get into programming simply because they have been bullied all their lives.

Programming lets them do that.

>>58954617
>They just want to have some control over something for once in their lives
>Programming lets them do that.

>>58954606
well, its not like you have a display in you arm where you can read your levels of neurotransmitters.
Your consciousness just try to give you an explanation and psychology is the result of it.

>be aspie
>work as a dev
>everyone else at work seems to be normies
>tfw

I am a giraffe.

>>58941437
This post makes a good point. However, it can be said that there is no true "natural state" as even humanity itself is a forever changing thing before you get into how the environment has been changing. Humans are capable of adaptation if they allow themselves it. been. Maybe we haven't quite caught up yet and maybe we're changing too fast. Still I think the progress and changes are worth it in the long run.

>>58954653
That sucks but it's a career.
I worry sometimes about getting a job and having coworkers try and take me to a bar/club. Or some birthday bullshit. I know it's stupid to want to be liked like a normie but there's no denying it feels good. Just not socially fluent enough to even try that shit again

>>58951931
>Fapped multiple times daily for 16 years too
Just how is this even possible?

>>58954886
quick rundown:
>be a beta low-test loser (or perhaps it made me into one)
>have a compulsion to fap every morning and no discipline (shitty mother)
>fap every morning, usually made me late for school, bus, whatever else
>fast forward to adulthood
>fapping to lots of porn on the internet
>wew

>>58954929
No, I mean how is this physically possible for body.

>>58954965
Maybe it's libido. Or the body just gets used to it and it's a shit habit. The more you do it the less you get that 'knock out' effect from it. I've once done it and then jogged 30 minutes to work, uphill. Fucking crazy.

>>58936650
No you're right, they shoot cops and their neighborhood instead.

Also guys, check your vitamin D levels along with B12 and get on supplements if you need them.

>>58955013
THIS
Heavy metal toxcity is nr.1 cause of autism.
Vitamin D makes metallothionein, which detoxifies heavy metals. (shit is everywhere nowadays)
It also makes dopamine = makes you happy

Google Dr. Amy Yasko

another good read is Ben Lynch:

http://mthfr.net/folic-acid-fortification-increase-in-mthfr-and-rise-in-autism/2012/05/11/

Vitamin D and Methylfolate resolved my autism and i can finally feel and communicate like a normal human beeing.

>>58954731
I still like my job a lot. It's a place where I can channel my aspergers into something productive and feel like a functioning member of society. As a bonus apparently I'm really fucking good at it and people keep praising my work. Also while normies my coworkers don't really try to invade my personal space which makes it manageable.

I do try to go to the normie events and after-work drinks they organize but I never feel like I truly belong there. I just end up thinking how I'd rather be at home in front of my computer or riding my bike.

>>58955349
That's really great you have a good job and have respect, not an easy thing and so hard for many of us to achieve. I hope to make it there some day.
I feel you on the normie events, I always felt out of place unless I was drunk but I got too old to be doing that. Nowadays I'd rather spend time doing what I love rather than trying to please others or fit in.

>>58925398
im studying CS aswell, wanna meet up in IRC?

>>58955684
I still go out to the normie events. It's probably good for me to leave my comfort zone and socialize with other people once a month. I don't do it to fit in but to get more comfortable with social interaction. I don't like getting drunk so I feel you there.

I have to admit that I got lucky by finding a great job. The hardest part for many of us has to be finding a job, especially your first proper one. Getting interviewed by HR was always a fucking nightmare. I hope you manage to make it one day.

If I somehow managed to find a qt gf I'd be over the fucking moon. I just want someone I can cuddle, hold hands with, and wake up next to on the morning. But I'm not too bothered about that right now as otherwise my life is pretty damn great.

>>58945851
This was a few years ago when the job market was tougher. We wanted to remain paid which means we had to complete both project, Mission Impossible style. We were working day and night and most of our meals were overtime food. I cannot see pizza anymore without instinctively thinking this is crunch time, again.

In hindsight it was sheer madness. Project management went on a holiday during the worst crunch and it says quite a bit about the level of the communal insanity when we bought their excuse that they just wanted to leave us undisturbed.

>>58954624
>have some control
If that was the core of it then you would see a lot of such people in the medical profession. Well, do you?

>>58957105
It doesn't even matter if you work hard lol

You get shitcanned either way

>>58957156
lol, yes.
MDs are the worst kind of people i ever witnessed. I've never seen an IT guy beeing that much in his own alternative reality like MD.

>>58928764
beeing intelligent and mental ill.....
for sure buddy...

psssst: santa is not real

but whatever.. never stop believing your own bullshit

>>58957800
>santa is not real
prove it

>>58957323
The moral of the story was that there was no ethics. Quite the take home message.

im dying by a lymphoma and recently i get started in the programming world, i think i have some mental disorder due this (cancer), anyone ever heard about a 'dead man walking programmer'?

>>58926029
Same. I would blow my brains out in an instant.

>>58917849
Let me just start off by saying that that pic is fake. Looks nice, but is fake.