/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Thumbnail filepicker drives me crazy

this pasta suck, are you a troll?

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What's the best way to install Arch Linux without fucking up/breaking anything?

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What is the name of the osmo tray icon? It stands out from the other icons. I need the icon name so I can add it to the icon theme.

>>58874190
The installer was maintained by one guy.
He got mad and quit when there was a lot of major "manual intervention" changes to the filesystem and stuff.
There was a nice thank you message on the archlinux.org site afterwards.
Nobody stepped up to maintain it. But it never took you past the reboot and install the de/wm of your choice anyways.

>>58874285
Try arch-anywhere.

>>58874285
Avoid typos and improper commands.

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>>58874385
>>58874405

Looks comfy, but I was thinking about installing it myself, is it really that hard?

>>58874441
just follow the beginners guide
it's pretty good documented
even retards can install arch
good luck

is slackware actually a bad distro? i hear it shittalked here a lot but no one ever seems to point out anything specific (except the manual dependency resolution stuff)
i've tried ever major distro save for gentoo and slackware and i haven't like any of them enough to continue using them

>>58874441
Kind of hard the first time around.
Nice to have a second device or computer to view the installation guide.

>>58874332
check in the according .desktop file

>>58874514
>Nice to have a second device or computer to view the installation guide.
The installation guide is always included with the live image.

>>58874651
Albeit a very condensed one.

>>58874684
It's the same one.

I have used Linux in the past, and am fairly competent with it. Not scared of the command line.

I've been told that towards the end of the year I'll be responsible for an embedded Linux hardware project, keeping the kernel and drivers for it maintained.

I have no experience here, so figured it'd be a good idea to use an arduino or similar to learn about embedded Linux. Anyone have some information I can start learning from?

I installed Ubuntu and I like it, but I installed Cinnamon and it's a far better DE than Unity. Should I just wipe Ubuntu and install Linux Mint instead?

>>58874713
This book is great for beginners http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

>>58874742
no, use Cinnamon with Debian

How can I make ubuntu run a command on startup?
I have a wacom tablet and I want it to turn the touch function off:
xsetwacom set 10 TOUCH off

>>58874754
Why?

>>58874763
put it in your bashrc

>>58874782
>>58874763
>xsetwacom
Oh sorry, I suppose that depends on X. Put that command in your ~/.xinitrc

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>58874764
because mint is unsecure, they mix packages from ubuntu and debian (which is never a good idea), it's unstable and there's absolutely no reason to use it because you can have cinnamon on a real distro like debian
also cinnamon is garbage, I'd go for xfce if I were you, but whatever

>>58874744
it's shite

>>58874845
I just like the way Cinnamon looks and can't into ricing. So then why should I switch from Ubuntu to Debian?

I should add that I'm not trolling, you seem helpful.

why would i ever want to use wayland over x

why would i ever want to use zsh over bash

>>58874651
Sweet. It used to be an optional package.
Do you remember what it's called?
I've forgotten.

>>58874879
>>58874890
why would I ever want to use blue over red

>>58874844
>user-friendly
When will this meme end?

>>58874844
Have a (You)

>>58874879
are you serious?

>>58874912
yes

>>58874904
'user-friendly' as in comes with binutils preinstalled

Is Mate any good? I get worried when I heard it's based on really old gnome code.

Is mpv any good? I get worried when I heard it's based on really old mplayer code.

>>58874939
Is communism any good? I get worried when I heard it's based on really old marxist code.

>>58874870
Save yourself some pain and use KDE, Cinnamon is a laggy, buggy piece of crapware.
Install kubuntu.

>>58874933
No, use xfce.

>>58874862
Why?

>>58874939
Yes. Mplayer is fine too.

>>58874892
What are you talking about?
There's a readme file in your ~

>>58874651
Nicer to view with my web browser of choice.

>>58874958
Sure.

Since you can tell I don't know much:
If I install the new KDE, can I uninstall Unity and not break my Ubuntu installation?

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Why do these threads lack images? This is an imageboard.

>>58874974
I haven't installed Arch for a few years. The first time It still had a graphical installer. And I installed 2 or 3 times without. I remember when the install guide was first avialable.

>>58875005
*first available as an installable package.

>>58875001
b/c no thumbnails in our filepickers

>>58874890
you wouldn't
zsh is for nu-male faggots/webdevelopers that sit in cofee shops with their apple computers and iphones
it's so fucking bloated it even has tetris built in

>>58874994
You can, but it might be easier to just go with kubuntu.
kubuntu is built to run with KDE.
You shouldn't have any problems.

>>58875059
I mean, since I'm already running Ubuntu, I might as well just purge Unity, right?

Maybe this is the best place to ask:

I have a Windows PC and an Arch Linux laptop. Is there anyway for me to use my laptop as monitor/keyboard/mouse/etc. for my PC? I'm envisioning something similar to how the Wii U game pad would be used to render and control a separate view from the TV.

idk guys, so many distro, so many averages and flaws, which is the best to sattle on?
all i want is:
- no breakage
- fresh packages
- good security

>>58875121
Red Hat Enterprise

Thinking of installing a distro on my wife's laptop. What would be a good option? Also what would be the best methods for adjusting power and heat options? I noticed Ubuntu on my desktop and mint on my old laptop had bad habits of heating my shit up and killing my power on the laptop.

>>58875121
Ubuntu

>>58875149
anyone ever pirated RHEL?
i'm curious how it looks like
is there a gratis test version?

>>58875083
You might.

>>58875167
>pirating
how about you just pay for the things you want instead of spoiling yourself you damned millennial

>>58875149
using rhel is like buying helvetica instead of just using arial
only retarded businesses do this

>>58874918
well, (very) long story short:
X.org it's a mess of a display server, originally released somewhere in the 80s, and kept "updated" by trowing more code over the previous mess resulting in a bad functioning, outdated and incredibly unsafe, pile of legacy bullshit to the point where the only way to get basic thing working (like vsync just to cite one) is to implement them in a separate software built over it to work around its shortages or just directly in the driver.

Wayland is the effort to solve this situation.

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>>58875030
>it's so fucking bloated it even has tetris built in

>>58875167
>pirated
You mean sharing informations with friends?

what is a distro besides arch that comes with less than 1000 fucking packages on install

>>58875206
he wasn't even kidding
http://www.slackwiki.com/ZSH

>>58875268
LFS

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>>58875030
>it's so fucking bloated it even has tetris built in
fucking this.

I don't need another tetris installed on my machine.
My text editor already features one

>>58875302
what is a distro besides arch that comes with less than 1000 fucking packages on install that a braindead monkey such as myself can install without hours of configuration

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>>58875272
zshills will defend this

>>58875314
that's what you get for not using vim

>>58875326
vim mustard race

what's wrong with xorg?

>>58875326
that would be a downgrade honestly

>>58875460
>but i need an operating system for my operating system!
daily reminder that real powerusers seek to reduce their software redundancy

straight up why isn't emacs it's own fsf-supported distro at this point

>>58875441
nothing

>>58875478
>daily reminder that real powerusers seek to reduce their software redundancy
Yeah my workflow doesn't require anything BUT emacs.
Who's redundant now?

Daily reminder that vimfags will never, ever be granted tramp mode and the ability to edit remote files on every network-capable machine on the planet.

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>>58875478
>daily reminder that real powerusers seek to reduce their software redundancy

>>58875498
Emacs being an OS is a meme.
It's not an OS yet.

>>58875531
But, can be used as a window manager or even DE http://www.howardism.org/Technical/Emacs/new-window-manager.html

>>58875521
>his work requires him to edit remote files on every network-capable machine on the planet
yeah, sure buddy. tell Jesus i said, "hi"

>>58874555
that's a different icon from the tray.

>>58875561
You're just jealous.

Vimfags are all about muhhhhhhhh simplicity but then stack shitpiles of plugins over a shitpile of plugins just to get half the features of Emacs.

>Remote editing?
Sorry can't do, minimalism
>Server/client architecture?
Sorry can't do, minimalism
>A proper package manager so you don't have to fiddle with plugins all day?
Sorry can't do, minimalism :)
>4chan browser?
sorry can't do

A desktop environment without any graphical environment can be replied with some applications like GNU Screen for window management, Byoubu for information bar, slmenu for application launcher, and some scripts for things like screenshots and screen recording.

Some applications like web browsers are hard, but I trust NetSurf can be enough to let me post on 4chan and fbpdf to view ebooks.

Remember that mpv has a framebuffer option, so video too is solved.

Anyone else making a GUI-less setup?

>>58875656
No, but make sure to document your setup throoughly, I would like to see how it looks and functions

>>58875665
Will do.

Thanks to Screen we have options for key binding too, and I am working on some framebuffer scripts for screenshots and screen recording. You can help:

screenshots

avconv -f alsa -f fbdev -r 30 -i /dev/fb0 screencast.webm

screen recording

avconv -f fbdev -frames:v 1 -r 1 -i /dev/fb0 screenshot.jpeg

I am obviously no wizard so critics are welcome.

I'm not trolling with this question, but how does one become a hacker? Should I learn C/C++ and web security of some sort? I know this is very unrelated to the topic at hand but since it's the friendliest general I thought I could get something out of it. Would being a sysadmin help? Anyways, thanks for any help.

>>58875656
>GNU Screen
I hope you meant tmux

>>58875705
underage b&

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>>58875710
>tmux
I hope you are confused

>>58875705
install gentoo (not even meming)

>>58875705
install Arch Linux (totally meming)

>>58875705
first read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

then install gentoo, seriously, is not a joke

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>>58875705
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

>>58875705
hack a gipson

>>58875748
>>58875750
y-you too

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>>58875750

>>58875628
i'm going to edit your post so future viewers don't have to try and digest the nonsense you just vomitted up
for context, this is all in response to a post about reducing software redundancy

>Vimfags are [insert mischaracterization of vimfags] but then [add the things they want as they need them instead of downloading them and extra, redundant stuff from the get-go] just to get half the features of Emacs.

>Remote editing?
[SSH allows it but Emacs has it too]
>Server/client architecture?
[unnecessary but Emacs has it]
>A proper package manager so you don't have to fiddle with plugins all day?
[implies everyone wants plugins, and ignores the presence of p gud vim plugin manager plugins]
>4chan browser?
[you have a browser already but Emacs has it too]

enjoy your unnecessary redundancy :^)

>>58875705
hack the gimpson

>>58875771
blacked

>>58875705
hack the simpson

>>58875705
watch the simpsons

>>58875720
I'm 20 friend

>>58875780
>[unnecessary but Emacs has it]
>[implies everyone wants plugins, and ignores the presence of p gud vim plugin manager plugins]
The good old "i don't need it therefore I don't understand why would you" logic.


>[SSH allows it but Emacs has it too]
Way to miss the point.
What are the chances that the machine you're connecting to will be equipped with vim set up the way you want it set up? None. In tramp mode you simply connect with already functioning emacs installation.

>i'm going to edit your post so future viewers don't have to try and digest the nonsense you just vomitted up
Go tip your fedora somewhere else buddy.

what is the WORST distro?

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>>58875705

>>58875750
I'm reluctant in clicking that link

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>>58875856

>>58875856
ubuntu on windows 10

>>58875857
That is what Im going for, but first I need some real answers man

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>>58875827

>>58875880
see
>>58875748
>>58875750
>>58875731

answer have been given, go follow your destiny young grasshopper

>>58875894
Pls screencap what the link leads me to

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>>58875880
you don't need a computer in oder to hack

>21 posters ITT
>113 posts
>windows threads have 100+ with 1:2 posts ratio
Year of the Linux desktop, they said.

>>58875834
>The good old ["i can't come up with an actual reason so i'll just mime"] logic.

>Way to [make an irrefutable] point.
>What are the chances that the machine you're connecting to will be equipped with vim set up the way you want it set up? [i'm too lazy to google how to figure it out, but it's easy: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+use+vim+with+ssh] In tramp mode you simply connect with already functioning emacs installation.

>Go tip your fedora somewhere else buddy.
i'm only tipping it to cover my eyes - this act you're putting on is too cringe-worthy

>>58875927
GNU/Linux*

>>58875705
>hacker

Honest, what do you think this word means?

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>>58875906
Just read the page and then install gentoo, after that you can learn bash scripting and networking

and then you will be ready https://www.cybrary.it/

>>58875906
>wants to be h4ck0r
>being retarded
wew

>>58875894
Nvm opened it, I guess it's actually legit

>>58875856
debian

>>58875942
>and then install gentoo
nice meme

>>58875942
>https://www.cybrary.it/
what is this gay shit?

>>58875953
he said worst, not best

>>58875957
gentoo being a meme is the meme, get with this layer of irony m8

>>58875928
>i'm only tipping it to cover my eyes - this act you're putting on is too cringe-worthy
Whatever lets you sleep at night friend.

>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+use+vim+with+ssh
Great.
I'm editing a file over SSH usng scp.
Say I want to move/copy file from one place to another on the machine I'm currently editing at.
What do I do? Open another connection?

fucking lmao, subpar as always vi.

>>58875979
i'm so sick of the gentoo is a meme is a meme meme

>>58875979
ur life is mem

>>58875942
Thank you kind anon, today I learned a new meme and something actually useful

>>58875992
np, just don't fall for the BSD meme and remember that systemd is pure evil

is there any reason to not like pulseaudio other than the fact that it used to be broken and it was concieved by lenart pedoring?

@58876041
>>>/trash/

>>58876041
I've heard myths about it's poor performance and latency.
But somehow doubt that would affect anyone but audio creators but then again
>>>>>>>>>linux audio creators

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I've done some programming in C and Java, and I use the command line for most stuff, but I don't know any of the details when it comes to bash (I only know the basic syntax for if, for and while).

What's the fastest way to get into proper bash scripting?

>>58876089
>@
kill yourself

>>58876089
>knowing /trash/ is even a board
>ever

>>58876100

The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/

sudo apt-get -f install kde-config-telepathy-accounts
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kde-config-telepathy-accounts
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 41 not upgraded.
691 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/137 kB of archives.
After this operation, 825 kB of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 323015 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking kde-config-telepathy-accounts (4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+16.04.20160126-0ubuntu1
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu5) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I've tried sudo apt-get -f install several times, but this keeps happening. Help?

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>>58876129
Thank you anon.

>>58876142
>0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 41 not upgraded.
>691 not fully installed or removed.
holy hell what are you doing?

>>58876142
just use Arch, you won't have to deal with this crap

>>58876148
this style guide is good too:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

>>58876154
I tried to install kubuntu-desktop but it gave errors. I'm trying to resolve them.

>>58875987
>What do I do? Open another connection?
i know you said that to try to criticize vim users, but really, you've just highlighted your ignorance.

look, it's okay to use emacs, but it ships with a lot of redundancy. which is fine if you're okay with that. you shouldn't feel bad about using emacs, friend, just bad about feeling you have to justify it

>>58876168
switching DEs isn't a good idea anon

>>58876191
Why's that?

>>58874484
I like it because it's so simple.
Even creating Slackware package is so easy compared to ebuild and PKGBUILD.

is it true that slackware doesn't even have a package manager?!

>>58876225
It does. It just doesn't resolve dependencies for you

>>58876276
what if a package has dozens of dependencies?

>>58876291
you resolve them

>>58876300
what if it has over 9000?

I recently installed lubuntu on my 7-8 year old netbook with 1gb ram and intel atom and resurrected it.I tried every possible windows os shit before and it couldnt breathe at all, now it works just fine for web browsing and even plays youtube videos without shuttering(just some input lags)
>lxterminal when in public feels like hackerman

>>58876300
how? manually?

>>58875272
>>58875314
>tetris builtin
SystemD should add tetris too.

>>58876308
You resolve them, what kind of dumbass question is that?

>>58876316
Yes.


>>58876309
It's possible to squeeze even more from it if youre willing to sacrifice some convenience and graphical doodads.

>>58876339
>dozens of deps
>You resolve them, what kind of dumbass question is that?
>manually
that would take hours, no?

>>58876414
Well, I used to git && makepkg manually instead of yaourt before switching to Slackware.
So, resolving dependencies in Slackware isn't a big deal.

>>58876474
What if I'm using something like GNOME or KDE?
There has to be a practical way to install a DE witout loosing a week resolving dependencies manually.

>>58876519
>There has to be a practical way to install a DE witout loosing a week resolving dependencies manually.
Yeah, it's called using another distribution that does this for you.

>resolving dependencies manually

that is some next level autism holy shit

>>58876565
what the fuck is the difference between slackware and a LFS with an isntaller then?

why has been manjaro been getting so much attention lately

>>58876573
t. someone who can;t resolve dependencies on his own

>>58876638
LFS is not a distribution

>>58876519
There's already KDE package available along with its dependencies when you're installing Slackware, you just need to check it during installation.
And for GNOME, it depends on SystemD, I don't think it would work on Slackware.

>>58876041
>pulseaudio installed
>browser audio breaks when I open audio player
>audio player breaks when I open video player
>uninstall pulsecrap
>configure alsa to have only one driver in use
>just werks

>>58876651
it's just purposely making more work, why would that ever be a benefit

why do configs end with rc

>>58876894
they don't

>>58874484
Slackware is literally the best distro if you are not an idiot and know what you're doing or want to learn what you're doing. The really simple reason is that it is really, really simple. The packages are built directly from upstream sources with no distro-specific modifications. The package manager is just a dialog-driven shell script (which really just provides "convenient shortcuts" to fetching and unpacking them manually) instead of a complex package management system that you can only use in a certain way. The "package database" is a directory of plain-text files, official packages are distributed as binaries and "unofficial" packages can be easily built using a powerful, customizable, automated build manager (also a dialog-driven shell script) or you can download binaries from one of several community repos. The init system combines the best features of BSD and SysV, and is also really fucking simple if you need to make any changes or add your own things to run at startup/shutdown, write your own scripts to start/stop/restart system services, etc. It works OOTB in 98% of cases even on ancient systems, needs very little post-installation setup or maintenance, and when you do need to maintain it, it doesn't get in your way. Even it's "tools" are just convenient shortcuts.
All the shitposting and memeing about Slackware not having a package manager, or being old, or being complicated, or using abandonware (if you really hate LILO so much, official GRUB packages come with the full distribution), it's all lies by autists who can't stand the fact that there is an "advanced" Linux distro that is actually made for sane people. If it doesn't feel intuitive as soon as you start using it, it will be within months.

>>58876920
GNU/Linux*

>>58876919
>bspwmrc
>kritarc
>bashrc
>sbclrc
>vimrc
>xinitrc

>>58876920
When I read your post I thought you were talking about Source Mage GNU/Linux.

The exact same features supported, plus, it has a dependency management with optional use flags.

>>58876291
There are practically no packages with dozens of required dependencies. The stock full install includes a LOT of common software and libraries (common according to Patrick). The only one I can think of with many optional dependencies is ffmpeg, for obvious reasons, and all you do is decide which ones you want, save a build queue for them, and rerun it whenever you need to update ffmpeg or one of its components. Or you use AlienBOB's ffmpeg package/build script which includes most of the free optional dependencies already.

The "no dependency resolution" is actually only true about slackpkg, which downloads binary packages from the official Slackware tree and (with a plugin) optional community repos. If you opt to build your own packages, the manager for that (sbopkg) includes a tool to automatically generate build queues for any package with dependencies.

>>58876953
compton.conf
input.conf
mpv.conf

>>58877075
what does rc mean though

>>58877110
readable config
idk lol

>>58874958
KDE is ok but kubuntu is crap.

Any advice on cleaning up after a fresh Arch install? I feel like the system is super cluttered right now and its making me sperg out

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>>58875701
You got you're screenshots and screenrecording commands inside each other's code tags by the looks of it.

>>58876519
Slackware-current ships (I believe) the latest KDE4. AlienBOB maintains an "unofficial" repo for KDE5 and also has MATE builds.

>>58876573
>literally takes me an average of 30 extra seconds to look up a dependency for the <50% of packages that have dependencies, plus I don't have to deal with the autism of retarded/restrictive/evil package managers used in inferior distros.

>>58876638
Now that I think about it, Slackware is literally LFS + precompilied packages + a bunch of really convenient shell scripts to make it easier to manage.

>>58877006
Pretty sure I tried that, or Sourcery, or some other obscure bullshit distro that might have been related to that, must have been 6 years ago, the whole premise was "hurr hurr we're so kewl that we call our repositories GRIMOIRES and our build scripts SPELLS". It was horribly made and didn't work. Might have been something else.
Slackware is /the/ oldest surviving continuously maintained Linux distribution. It is stable and rock-solid and made by someone who knows what the fuck he's doing.

>>58877110
"run commands", a convention from the early days of Unix
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_commands
rc is only used for config files when they are merely a list of commands to run within the program as soon it starts and use the same syntax as commands within the program itself (like vimrc) or shell scripts (like xinitrc). conf files generally contain definitions that are read and interpreted by the program in key-value pairs or similar.

>>58876832
>boot archbang live usb.
>No sound
>fuck with alsamixer
>no sound
>install pulseaudio
>sound

>>58877274
yeah, sorry, paste in a haste

>>58877299
probably was a precursor (Sourcery) because source mage is very stable

why isn't there a single nonshit distro
literally every single one has at least one glaring flaw that makes it unusable
this is why macos is taking over this board

>>58877361
bsd is a good distro
also void linux

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>>58877421
bsd more like pic related
void more like literally no software

>>58877185
it's just bloated

>>58877262
don't woory about it

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>>58877440
>bsd rationalization

>use dd to make a live usb
>restart computer
>grub rescue

Send help. I can boot into the liveCD, but this is what i get wish

sudo fdisk -l

http://pastebin.com/nKkfvNZa

I know that sdb1 was my NTFS partition for my Windows install and that sdb6 was my Ubuntu partition.

I'm pretty confused as to what to do from here. Ireally don't want to partition the disk, because I have data on there that I want to keep.

>>58877505
I should add that sdb1 was some 200-odd gigabytes in size, not 1.5

>>58877505
So you aren't able to boot into your system?

>>58877505
>grub rescue

are you booting into the liveCD, installing and then getting grub rescue?

>>58877527
I cannot boot into either Windows or Ubuntu, only my LiveUSB Kubuntu image I had made.

>>58877440
what software are you looking for that void doesn't have? Using void right now and it has everything i want.

>>58877505
>>58877520
>>58877535
Put a filesystem type like originally was there, NTFS right?

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>>58876328
>systemd should add tetris too
anon...

>>58877534
I wanted to resize my Ubuntu partition so I could install something else, so I made a liveCD to boot into. But when I restarted my to try to boot into the LiveCD, I got grub rescue.

>>58877556
Is there a way to do that without re-formatting the disk? If I can find a screenshot tool in Kubuntu, I would show you what I see in the KDE partition tool.

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>>58877344
sounds like SM has more in common with Gentoo. Slackware has always shipped a large number of binary packages and community repos with "unofficial" binary packages have been around for a long time now. Most sane people would use a pre-built package, especially for large, complex software, unless they had a very specific case that required a custom build. Slackware makes building packages very simple and hassle-free, if that's what you want to do, but you can also use it without building any packages yourself. I only have 51 out of 1429 built myself, mostly because I wanted/needed a newer version that the repo. Some of these, not even sure why твн

>>58877575
You resized the filesystem before the partition, right?

>>58877592
I didn't resize anything or partition anything, if that makes sense.

What I did was use dd to mount the .iso on my usb stick and restarted my computer. Grub rescue.

>>58877605
On the live cd, try mounting the root filesystem and make sure everything is there. If it is, chroot into it and run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

>>58877545
Not him but it doesn't have encryption in it's installer and I don't want to fuck around with lvm+luks by myself

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>>58877638
This is what gparted is showing me for sdb. I'll do what you said after I post this and show results.

I should add that the HDD is only under 512 gigabytes big.

Does anyone go to LUG meetings? I've thought about checking out the one in my area but it looks like it's just half a dozen middle-aged guys who get together once a month to think of presentation topics. I looked through the slides of some previous presentations and most didn't seem very informative, or even interesting.

>>58877581
precompiled binaries are available, but the main system is compiling from source, the devs very well explain is more similar to LFS than anything, but the curses based frontend is easy, as it is making new packages because they are simple files, some people like to create entire new repositories

but I like your explanation of Slackware, I wonder why nobody mentioned that before, sure I would installed Slackware if I knew that

>>58877638

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
mount: /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /mnt busy
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
mount: /dev/sdb2 is already mounted or /mnt busy

>>58877706
you can't mount on the same directory boy, create a new folder and mount there

How do I go about filing a bug report or something to systemd devs so this >>58877560 becomes a reality?

>>58877706
You don't need to mount the EFI partition. Chroot into /mnt

>>58877560
what in the name of

>>58877735
give them time and they'll do it themselves

I have no idea what the fuck I did, but after a reboot I somehow managed to start an Ubuntu LiveCD from the Kubuntu LiveCD. sdb is still showing as unformatted.

>>58877560
I like that simple tetris, sourcE?

>eth0 dead
>no wifi interface detected
well then how the fuck do you want me to install your shitty distribution
fuck this dude

>>58877740
I'm not familiar with chroot. What exactly should I be doing?

>>58877810
tetris-bsd from bsd-games

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>>58877688
You can always install Slackware now.
Or you can try Alien_BOB's live ISOs, which come in default, slim (Xfce), Plasma 5, MATE, and Cinnamon
https://docs.slackware.com/slackware:liveslak

>>58877820
choot /dev/sd? /bin/bash

>>58877841
oh yeah and make sure this is the root partition

>>58877835
I will, but tell your community to learn how to shill, many idiots around meme about Slackware being dead.

This >>58876920
is a damn good publicity and should probably be a pasta.

>>58877841
>>58877854

ubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /dev/sdb1 /bin/bash
chroot: cannot change root directory to '/dev/sdb1': Not a directory
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ 
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /dev/sdb2 /bin/bash
chroot: cannot change root directory to '/dev/sdb2': Not a directory
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /dev/sda1 /bin/bash
chroot: cannot change root directory to '/dev/sda1': Not a directory
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /dev/sda2 /bin/bash
chroot: cannot change root directory to '/dev/sda2': Not a directory

>>58877867
Oh sorry I meant /mnt

>>58877864
And with learn how to shill, I mean to actually promote Slackware.

Can anyone help me out with running Steam on Arch? I can't seem to run it as a normal user. Anytime I run either steam, steam-runtime, or steam-native, I just get dozens of the same permission denied errors for every action it would normally take during startup. I just installed it normally using pacman from the official repositories. I did try running it once as the root user and I had no issues.

>>58877826
ty

>>58877877
I do as much as I can. It would probably make sense to save pastas instead of typing fresh posts every time but usually I'm addressing specific questions/concerns/myths. I've thought about adding to the wiki page but too lazy.

>>58877916
add it man, god damn it, don't let memers win

>>58877875

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /dev/sdb1 /mnt
chroot: cannot change root directory to '/dev/sdb1': Not a directory
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt /dev/sdb1
chroot: failed to run command ‘/dev/sdb1’: No such file or directory

>>58877498
I-i cant not worry about it, anon. Its unpossiblè

>>58877930
What I meant was chroot /mnt /bin/bash
I should have been more clear.

>>58874441
installing it is easy. grub may not work but all you need to do is read the documentation.

the problem comes when you have to configure the DE for the first time.

I didn't know how to do that so I simply booted architect and am now enjoying my arch linux install without the slightest hint of shame.

>>58877949

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash
chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory

is this hopeless

Trying to really immerse myself in GNU/Linux with a fresh install of Arch and it's going pretty well so far.

Sell me on your favorite desktop environment. I've mostly used Windows all my life but am open to anything.

>>58877967
Are you sure the root partition is the partition mounted on /mnt? If not, unmount /mnt and mount the root partition.

>>58878002
You mean the root for my old Ubuntu install?

>>58878015
Yes

>>58877988
i3-wm for street cred
i3-gaps for anime

>>58877988
XFCE looks awful by default, but it's very customizable and one of my favorites. i3wm is good, too.

>>58878021
My old installation was on /dev/sdb6. fdisk -l shows /dev/sdb1 as being the bootable partition. Neither works. nothing is mounted in /mnt.

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /mnt
mount: special device /dev/sdb6 does not exist
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
mount: /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /mnt busy
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ ls /mnt
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ 

>>58877988
MATE, LXDE, Xfce and Cinnamon are noob tier. i3, Enlightenment and else tiling wm are ricer tier.

I use one of the above,

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Im having so much trouble setting up arch (probably cause I dont even understand the commands), its simple enough allocating the disk space for certain things, bootloader, root, home etc. But I can't even fucking manage to get the wifi to work to install the base system.

Was I just memed into installing arch? because the wiki is not useful at all, its more of a guideline to people who already know how the unix system works and just provide keyword reminders...

How the fuck are you supposed to understand the thousands of commands that linux distros have?

>Tfw spent 1 hour trying to get the wifi to work

>>58878045
>one
*none

>>58878050
wifi-menu didn't work?

>>58877988
Try Cinnamon if you don't want to think to much. It's not particularly resource intensive, it can look really good, and it just makes a nice cohesive desktop. i3-gaps is also good if you're willing to put in the time to learn it, but it's gonna feel completely alien from what you're used to.

>>58878050
I assume you have, but have you been following this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration

>>58877988
Seeing you come fresh from windows, installing Arch right off the bat most seem daunting
For a seasoned Linux user not so
If you like real challenges try LFS
Btw if you had experience with WMs I'd recommend openbox
But for a first time user I recommend Xfce, its pretty straightforward

>>58878068
>It's not particularly resource intensive
Nigga its heavier than Gnome 3
It only loses to KDE the ultimate bloatware

>>58878039
Print the output of lsblk

>>58878077
LFS isn't that hard, just requires knowledge of how a Linux system works together and patience to compile

>>58878103
gladly.

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ lsblk
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sdb      8:16   0 465.8G  0 disk /cdrom
├─sdb2   8:18   0   2.4M  0 part 
└─sdb1   8:17   0   1.5G  0 part 
sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom  
loop0    7:0    0   1.4G  1 loop /rofs
sdc      8:32   1  14.6G  0 disk 
└─sdc1   8:33   1  14.6G  0 part 
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk 
├─sda2   8:2    0 440.8G  0 part 
└─sda1   8:1    0    25G  0 part 

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>>58878061
I mean during the setup

>>58878074
Yeah I read and tried everything in it, just doesnt werk.

Gave up and formatted my usb, some fields in the commands don't even make sense nor do I have knowledge of what to put as entries into certain fields.

How the fk is anyone supposed to get into a unix based system if they don't even explain what anything does but type mindless commands? You may as well install a toddler distro like ubuntu.

Fuck man I was actually interested in learning more about how linux (arch) works but I guess I got memed into the "RAED DA WIKI".

>>58878025
>i3-wm for street cred
is that the one all the cool kids post on here with their Arch setups?

>>58878038
Customizable is good.

>>58878045
i3-wm or gaps? is there even that big a difference?

>>58878068
Not that I want to torture myself or anything, but I do kind of want to put in time learning Linux so maybe I'll check out gaps

>>58878077
I've had limited gnu/Linux experience but it's going pretty well. I knew it would be hard but have the patience to keep at it till I get it figured out. Thanks for the recommendations too.

Which of these are really lightweight? I have a pretty basic system so lightweight is good, I should have said that in the first place

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>>58874165
>mfw I saw the OP pic

jesus, this shit is fuckin high-larious.

>>58878114
i3 gaps is i3wm fork with gaps between windows, that's all.

>>58878113
Where did you get stuck? When I did it I got stuck on the WPA supplicant part and reading the wiki page dedicated to that helped me get through it

>>58878113
netctl I think it was instead.

>>58878132
Oh I see, thanks for the guidance.

>>58878111
Alright. So sda 1 & 2 are the disk's partitions. Try mounting the one that you think is the root partition and then chroot /mnt /bin/bash.

>>58878164
Neither are letting themselves be mounted.

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
mount: /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /mnt busy
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
mount: /dev/sdb2 is already mounted or /mnt busy
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ ls /mnt
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ 

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>>58878050
If you are new, use Ubuntu.

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>>58878136
Yep I tried wpa supplicant and was reading the page over and over and the biggest problem is that there is NO explanation towards anything, any of the commands or wtf anything does. Its not worth it if I cant learn anything

>>58878137
Whats the point? I want to learn something, where can I find a resource to explain what literally every command does for every possible command in arch? Cause the wiki clearly doesnt do this

>>58878173
Something is probably mounted on /mnt. Run umount /mnt and try again.

>>58877988
I like AwesomeWM

>>58878179
There is literally no point in getting ubuntu if its the same bullshit but worse than windows. The point of installing arch/gentoo is to configure shit yourself. Im not mad that I can't do it, im mad cause people claimed the wiki solves everything and they meme you into installing this bullshit without knowledge of this distro

>>58878185

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo umount /mnt
umount: /mnt: not mounted
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
mount: /dev/sdb2 is already mounted or /mnt busy
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
mount: /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /mnt busy

>>58878091
>heavier than Gnome 3
Oh my god is it really? I haven't done a comparison test myself in a while and my computer is powerful enough to not notice any issues. I need to do some research

>>58878208
I have no idea why /mnt would be busy. Try making a new directory in / and mount it to that.

>>58877879
Any ideas guys? I'm going crazy with this. Never had this issue before with Arch.

>>58878222

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /meme
mount: /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /meme busy
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /meme
mount: /dev/sdb2 is already mounted or /meme busy

Looking back at >>58878111 it says that /dev/sdb has a mountpoint of /cdrom
Is that an issue? I tried unmounting it to see what would happen.

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo umount /cdrom
umount: /cdrom: target is busy
        (In some cases useful info about processes that
         use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1).)

>>58878196
Arch install is a joke. What level of customization do you get partitioning your hard drive? The n00butu mindset is childish and only delusional Arch users think like this.

Also check this out
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>58878247
Oh wait I'm an idiot lol. Try /dev/sdaX

Is it possible to have feh set a single image to span across multiple monitors instead of being displayed on each individually?

>>58878184
Obvious b8 but I'll bite.
Have you tried looking up tutorials on youtube?

>>58878254
show?

>>58878259
That's my Windows installation. Doing an ls on /mnt/ after I mount it shows my C:\\ drive in my Windows install.

>>58878262
Nevermind it's --no-xinerama

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>>58878251
I know its comparatively easy, but its my first linux install so I wanted to start off easy with arch, then move onto gentoo or something. Yes I know its a childish mindset but I want to fucking learn something and feel superior as a bonus.

>>58878275
Its not bait, dude obviously if I wanted to just "get it 2 werk" i'll look at tutorials on youtube but I want to LEARN something, and there are NO LEARNING resources.

Want to know what a command does and all its possible flags / parameters? Nope fuck you unless its already on the wiki

>>58878300
Arch is known for not being easy for a reason. Also, did you even try the man pages on the commands? It's in the OP. This is why I call you a b8r.

>>58878295
Alright well, the partition you're looking for is not on /dev/sdb, that's the live cd. Try mounting the partition you think your distro is on.

>>58878326
/dev/sdc is my live cd though.
Before USB

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ lsblk
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sdb      8:16   0 465.8G  0 disk /cdrom
├─sdb2   8:18   0   2.4M  0 part 
└─sdb1   8:17   0   1.5G  0 part 
sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom  
loop0    7:0    0   1.4G  1 loop /rofs
sdc      8:32   1  14.6G  0 disk 
└─sdc1   8:33   1  14.6G  0 part 
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk 
├─sda2   8:2    0 440.8G  0 part 
└─sda1   8:1    0    25G  0 part 

After USB

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ lsblk
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sdb      8:16   0 465.8G  0 disk /cdrom
├─sdb2   8:18   0   2.4M  0 part 
└─sdb1   8:17   0   1.5G  0 part 
sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom  
loop0    7:0    0   1.4G  1 loop /rofs
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk 
├─sda2   8:2    0 440.8G  0 part 
└─sda1   8:1    0    25G  0 part 

Remember, I'm using a LiveUSB, not a LiveCD.

>>58878300
I felt the same way but what I realised was the wiki and such are guides on how to do specific things, not coursework on how to learn linux. It's up to me to read the wiki on how to do something, get to point I don't understand, stop, research whatever that is, then continue. If you actually want to have a learning experience there are links to resources in the OP.

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>>58878309
>man <insert command here>
What about an actual website which explains how arch works? Why do I have to go to silly youtube tutorials that just show you the command to work things but not explain what they do or how they function? My point still stands, I want to learn something. Where can I go to truly understand every command being executed in Arch.

How do I even understand the unix architecture and the way it functions? (Inb4 a link to AT&T 1000 page book to a guide to unix operating systems)

>>58878362
Sorry, didn't realize that. Try ls /cdrom. I think it's odd that /dev/sdb is mounted there.

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Best GNU Screen config?

>>58878362
I just read your post, and im jumping in.

sdx is not a cd drive, thus it is not your live cd.

sr0 is your cd drive.

look for your live boot by mounting sr0

>>58878380

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ ls /cdrom
boot    dists  install   md5sum.txt  pool     README.diskdefines
casper  EFI    isolinux  pics        preseed  ubuntu

That is weird.

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>>58878366
Are you referring to explainshell.com? Although this is helpful as in it gives you a good idea of what it does you still dont specifically understand how to use it or in what context.

Where did you learn about the unix architecture from?

>>58878393

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt
mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0

>>58878396
How big was the partition with your distro on it, anyways? I think it's very strange that /dev/sdb is mounted.

>>58878284
akiba's trip

>>58878410
It was 200-something gigabytes in size.

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screen or tmux and why

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Running Fedora LXDE on my workstation and Archlinux for my Database server.

Less than 1 gb of memory used between the two machines...

hell, I dont even hit 750mb

Bet ubuntu kiddies use more ram than that on a vanilla install

>>58878409
i didnt read that you said you were using a usb at the bottom of your post. the top said live disk and thats all I read

>>58878420
Try lsblk -o +FSTYPE. Then try mounting whatever has a Linux file system that isn't the live USB

>>58878300
anon i remember being frustrated about this myself, along with all the network managers in existence for some fucky reason, it was years ago and I don't remember half of what I learned at the time I wrote a bash script to take care of my connections profiles.

What you need to know is that you need to transform the password into a hash with wpa_passphrase and transfer the output to a file, then let wpa_supplicant do the magic. The rest is IP configuration, which was also a pain in the butt to learn. In the end you will realize this is a waste of time though, since once you need to rush to fetch that document from the internet and stuff, GUI beats TUI and command line tools. Below are my steps to get it going, searx about whatever parameters i used here so you know what it does:

$ wpa_passphrase <SSID> <PASS> > file.txt
add "ap_scan=1" and "scan_ssid=1" to the top of the file
$ wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -i<INTERFACE> -cfile.txt

>>58878463
Sorry for the confusion then.

>>58878465
I'm not sure which of these are Linux filesystems.

kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ lsblk -o +FSTYPE
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT FSTYPE
sdb      8:16   0 465.8G  0 disk /cdrom     iso9660
├─sdb2   8:18   0   2.4M  0 part            vfat
└─sdb1   8:17   0   1.5G  0 part            iso9660
sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom             
loop0    7:0    0   1.4G  1 loop /rofs      squashfs
sdc      8:32   1  14.6G  0 disk            
└─sdc1   8:33   1  14.6G  0 part            vfat
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk            
├─sda2   8:2    0 440.8G  0 part            ntfs
└─sda1   8:1    0    25G  0 part            ntfs

>>58878467
actually don't searx, read the man pages on these commands.

>>58878407
My mistake, normally this >>>/t/713097 is included in the OP which has a bunch of learning resources for linux.

>>58878484
None of those a Linux file systems. Reboot and try running that again.

>>58878247
you cant mount to a directory which has contents. it will say the directory is busy

>>58878484
im a long time linux user, I run a couple arch databases and know my way around gnu pretty well. what are you trying to do? I can probably walk you thru it.

>>58878519
he's trying to mount and chroot into his root partition to fix GRUB, but none of those are his root partition.

>>58878506
>linux file systems
no such thing

>>58878529
why?

>>58878529
Im assuming this root partition he is trying to chroot into is located on sda?

>>58878493
next OP should have the links

next thread
>>58878531
>>58878531

new thread:
>>58878535

>>58878555
too slow and missing /t/ links nuke that thread and then nuke yourself mate

>>58878555
way to go genius, there is already a thread up

>>58878547
Rhe links got moved to the pasta section because some anons got mad because them. Your thread doesn't have the new pasta. ;_;

>>58878572
>some anons got mad because letting them make the decisions now?

>>58878591
So where are the /wg/ links?

>>58878572
don't let troll make the decisions

and who do you mean anyway?

>>58878604
I am not sure if the dead links will be accepted to be honest, is there a thread alive in /wg/?

>>58878649
That's why they are merged into the new pasta collection.

can't delete anymore, let's just reuse when the other one is over

>>58878670
ok, I get why those were removed, but why the other?

>>58878690
where is the regular OP anyway?

>>58878725
who do you think is the "regular" OP?

>>58878732
you mean there is not one single guy?

>>58878725
Stopped posting when anons started updating/changing the OP pasta every other thread. Community decides so I'm keeping my ass out of trouble.

>comfy

>>58878742
I have been creating new threads for months because you're lazy ass faggets.

>>58878742
hello, newfriend
I hope you realize that "Anonymous" is not one poster

THE OP DRAMA!

finally some action in here

fuck off kde shill

>>58878774
>>58878786
>>58878789
can you like, use the links of the new thread? I won't bitch about it but just think how much they help

>>58878822
Other thread OP here. Sadly I can't delete the other thread anymore.
>can you like, use the links of the new thread?
Sure why not.

ITT: friendly ppl
nice

>>58878850
cool, thnx

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>>58878822
>>58878850
guys, literally nobody ever reads the op pasta

>>58878886
newfriends do

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