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/bsd/ - *BSD General Thread
Discuss FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD

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News sites: http://dragonflydigest.com | http://undeadly.org
Docs: https://freebsd.org/handbook | https://www.openbsd.org/faq | https://netbsd.org/docs

Potential Linux switchers welcome. Ask questions, get answers, etc.
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Try FreeVMS http://www.freevms.net/

A real-time operating system with tight integration with the base system and the DCL (DIGITAL Command Language) shell.
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>>58874433
There's no working iso. The Qemu img is from 2011 and doesn't work.
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>>58874048
GNU/Linux*
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>>58874635
Here https://github.com/ztmr/FreeVMS
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>>58874635
The qemu img does work.
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>download openbsd
>install60.iso
>mirror shows file size in bytes so I have no idea how large the download is.
>speed is capped
>it doesn't boot, no uefi support

I knew I wouldn't get anything usable but god damn.
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>>58874895
>he doesn't know his powers of 1024
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>>58874895
>mirror shows exact file size
>waah guys how am I supposed to know how big the file is?
You are beyond retarded.
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>>58876203
>Does BSD support (usb id number here)
Try it and find out!
>How big is the iso?
Download it and find out!
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>>58876233
>Try it and find out!
Do you really not know what Google is? Besides, just return it if it doesn't work. Wow, so tough.
>Download it and find out!
Again, you're whining about not knowing the file size when the exact file size is listed. Quit shitposting.
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>>58876310
lol google it, I did, there wasn't any information because theres no support. Chances are nobody with that hardware has ever tried it, thats why they say Try it and see!
The documentation doesn't list supported hardware ids because its garbage.
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>>58876372
>oh god guys, I have to plug a device in to find out if it works or not, how ever will I live!?
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>>58876394
Don't see what actually using the device has to do with it, you can't use it. Plugging shit in doesn't make drivers magically appear.
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>>58876447
If you don't know if a device works or not, you can find out by plugging it in. Not that difficult of a concept to grasp.
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>>58876394

Do you know who that tripfag is? He's literally (yes, literally) been trolling *BSD threads for YEARS. Just ignore him.
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>>58876504
I'm well aware of who he is, it's just fun to argue with the gynophobic dumbass
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>>58876447
>/g/ any day for the last year
/fglt/ :15 comments of first 50 about why u should switch to bsd and bsd license is waaayyy better and RMS is a pedo.
/sqt/ : same shit
/bsd and other things/ : 2 days later 15 comments, 8 of which are bitching about how shitty BSD is.
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What's *BSD command equivalent to this:
[/fig/iso/slackware]$ mmcli -L

Found 1 modems:
/org/freedesktop/ModemManager1/Modem/9 [huawei] E173

[/fig/iso/slackware]$ mmcli -m 9 --3gpp-ussd-initiate='*889#'
USSD session initiated; new reply from network: 'Anda memiliki: 182 MB Flash. Bonus berbatas waktu, cek scr berkala.'
[/fig/iso/slackware]$ mmcli -m 9 --3gpp-ussd-initiate='*888#'
USSD session initiated; new reply from network: 'Sisa pulsa kamu Rp3700. Aktif s.d. 01/04/2017.
Mau nongkrong sore brg Vidi Aldiano di Surabaya?
1.YA
2.Hot Promo
3.Cek Kuota
'
[/fig/iso/slackware]$
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>>58876561
probably depends on what BSD you use
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>>58874895
$ curl -I http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.0/amd64/install60.iso
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 237467648
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 02:01:58 GMT
Last-Modified: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:38:42 GMT
Server: OpenBSD httpd

$ mib 237467648
226.5M
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>>58874048
2 months with gentoo and I dig it

I've read that ports is similar. What does BSD do better than gentoo?
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>>58876654
actually ships a complete operating system
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>>58876654
Imagine portage without emerge or eix or basically any multi arch, multi profile, multi compiler, or source code support. No patch support, no support for multiple kernels, no nothing.

Basically all the shit you do manually with ports inspired them to make portage, which does everything for you.
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>>58876654
sorry if that sounded smartass

1. the gentoo is the non-meme kind
2. it was a serious question and I was under the impression you were offering serious answers

what advantages would you say freebsd has over gentoo?
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>>58876608
where do I get that mib command?
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https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2017-02/msg00079.html
>The function explicit_bzero, from OpenBSD, has been added to libc.
pretty neat
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So Im tired of the W10 meme and I'm not a huge fan of the cucksterfuck that is Linux. What would be the best BSD to use as a daily programming/work desktop.

Also clarify the lisence? I know Linux forces open source, could I theoretically make an app, close it off and sell it in BSD no problem? Other people can take my code and close it off themselves right?
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>>58876833
No GNU userland. A superior BSD one. Comes with everything you want: compilers, X11, ctags, everything.
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>>58878036
I prefer OpenBSD as my desktop, but that's personal preference.
>app
You could make a closed source ``app'' even on GNU/Linux.
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>>58879044
>superior BSD one
bwahahahahahaha
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>>58880361
What a persuasive counterargument.
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>>58880361
Tell me about all those --long ----------------loooooooooooooooooooooooong --------------------------------------------------------options you enjoy.
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>>58874635
Stop it, you've been lying about this project every time it comes up.
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Does BSD support Linux drivers for obscure or specialist hardware?
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>>58880485
no drivers
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>install FreeBSD
>Firefox is slow as fuck & chrome hangs in pages
>mirrors at 100 kbps while my downloads are usually 800kbps
lol what a piece of shit, im back to lubuntu
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>>58880653
>FreeBSD as a desktop OS
y
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>>58880672
Because Linux is botnet now.
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>>58880672
it claims to be a general purpose OS
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>>58880691
So use OpenBSD
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>>58880699
>nsa backdoors
no thanks
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>>58880707
Nice FUD
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>>58880485
Does iOS support Windows drivers?
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>>58880729
It's true but Theo fixed it. He still won't admit it though
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>>58880653
Firefox works faster on FreeBSD than Windows 10, for me.
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>>58880883
Funny, its the opposite for me, but it might be related to me having an i3 3120M
are you using UFS or ZFS?
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>>58880892
UFS of course.
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>>58880915
Weird. Maybe Firecucks has shitty support for hyperhtread shitter cores. It ran like on my single core celeron
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>>58880957
I see. No idea, I'm using a 4-core Phenom.
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>>58874048
Picked up an old IBM Aptiva 2153 today.

6 g HDD that seems like it's on its way out, (constant ATA status 51 errors).

Planning on using it as a machine to test out minimal/low-resource OS's, while teaching myself how to use them. Especially interested in using BSD to familiarize myself with a straight POSIX system.

Started with FreeBSD (open BSD installation kept failing upon onset.)

... What do I do now? Thing is, this machine has a 56k modem, and it's not currently configured to do anything with that modem.

I'm wondering what my next step here should be - anyone have a good guide on getting started with BSD, in a way that shows its applications? I'm a little under the weather and not feeling particularly imaginative at the moment, and would appreciate anyone's suggestions in where to go from here.
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>>58881117
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/
Otherwise just google "what can i do with freebsd"
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>>58874048
Dragonfly with its concurrent system services is where it's at.

FreeBSD just copied Linux and its silly locks.
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>>58877798
alias kib='awk '"'"'{printf("%.1f%s", $1 / 1024, "K")}'"' <<<"
alias mib='awk '"'"'{printf("%.1f%s", $1 / 1024^2, "M")}'"' <<<"
alias gib='awk '"'"'{printf("%.1f%s", $1 / 1024^3, "G")}'"' <<<"
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