/sbcg/ Single Board Computer general

>>58866990
>Can we get a comfy SBC thread going?
Nope.
This here is consumerism board. Don't even tried.
I tried several times to get an embedded thread going, but those weebs on here only care about riced arch desktops, iphones and the newest graphics cards

>>58867050
I've had mixed luck over a 3 month period.

Anyone has experience with Orange Pi PC 2? Satisfied with the PC1, but the 100Mbit NIC simply isn't up to snuff.

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>>58867050
heh, with that rasberry mania SBCs can be considered consumerism electronics today.

Anyway I have a cubieboard2 and I'm generally not satisfied with it.
It features a Mali400 with terrible driver support so forget about driving a 1080p hdmi sceen for anything else other than a terminal or a very lightweight WM.

I also wanted to use it as lightweight fileserver (it has a sata port) but I get bad rw performances and while the megabit ethernet connection is fine for "over the internet" transmission (I have a VDSL), it is definitely too slow for LAN, so I always end up plugging an usb3 hdd to my machines to do backup or transferring big files.

Right now I'm using it for home video surveillance (webcam plus a motion detection software) and sometimes tinkering with some service (ownclound, irc server ...).

>>58867328
should have gone with the pi3 faggot

>>58867343
It wasn't even announced at the time I bought the cubieboard and anyway it doesn't have neither gigabit ethernet nor sata ports.

I once got a pi2, used it for different things.
Used it to watch some old chinese cartoons on old crt tv, played around a bit with FM radio and even did some AVR programming.
Learned quite some things through it, that was nice.

>>58867328
>Mali400
Yeah Mali is the bane of a lot of clones.

Would it be possible to use the adc of the sound card to make a low cost, "low voltage", oscilloscope?

>CTRL-F ODROID
>0 results
>disapointted.jpeg
Guys, you should try like armbian, really nice diy OS.

>>58867050
>sbc
>not consumerism
Why? I own one pi and have various home projects that have borrowed it, but ultimately it's just a toy project device no different than any other chink shit except added DIY.

>Original rev 0 Pi with 25MB ram
>In a box
>5x Orange Pi Ones
>In the same box
>A 256MB Orange Pi Zero for muh nostalgia
In its bag, soon to go in the fucking box
They're good when you need them but right now I need to be finding a job, not fucking round with pi's.
(Dunno why I ordered an oppai Zero then, but it's cute so whatever. Wonder if you can fit minimal linux on the spi flash?)
>>58868072
Armbian for lyef.
I donate 10% the price of every board I buy to them

>tfw waiting for my 512mb orange pi zero to ship
I plan to use it as VPN and Seedbox, is the hardware capable of doing both at the same time?

Running armbian of course.

I need a 64bit one with more than 2gb of ram. I have been waiting too long to upgrade my original odroid-xu. So far the RK3399 firefly is the only possible upgrade. I hope rockchip does a soc with 4+ A72 and a bigger gpu in the future.

>>58868110
Only thing I would ask to the Armbian guys is better support for my dwb web browser. Is the most fully featured yet lightweight browsers, sadly is has a bug.

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This thread reminds me that I fucked up the initrd of archarm and locked myself of my BananaPi again.
This time without any way to restore it.

>>58868201
Why would armbian be causing the bug>

>>58868232
>This time without any way to restore it.
Something something SD card?

>>58868311
I encrypted the root partition. To unlock it I need to set the initrd correctly.
This is pretty easy but doing that over ssh is kinda convoluted. Anyway tried that with systemd and everything is fucked, can't unlock disk.

Running an odroid C2 with arch
Currently runs mpd server, deluge server with web client and syncthing,
Tried tt-rss, but fuck rss.

I also want to turn it into a vpn node, put pxe boot on it and use it as some sort of command center like a google home thingy, but haven't found good software for that. And I don't want to turn it into a dhcp server so pxe boot doesn't really work.

I just bought a Rasp PI. What should I do with it? I'm completely new to this whole thing but I have this feeling that I should really learn to do something with it.

>>58868072
Running armbian on an orangepi pc. Shit works great

>>58868694
if you don't already have a use for it when you buy it, then it is bound to collect dust in a drawer.

this is the case for most RPIs

>>58868694
What kind of raspi?
There's a good list on the wiki.
Trying to turn a B+ into an animal cam my father can put in the woods. I think it's too underpowered though, can only get about 6 fps,
going to try to jack it up and otherwise go for a 2.

>>58868546
>vpn
Had the most luck with softether.
Others like strongswan and openswan takes a lot of time to set up and debug. That and these can't differentiate between different clients behind 1 public IP

What are people's opinions on lattepanda? Is it a good desktop replacement?

>>58869155
I'll look into it, thanks.
I tried openvpn, but I screwed something up and then I couldn't bother about it anymore. so I put it on my todo list.

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Olinuxino A20-LIME2 used currently as a web server and IRC bouncer.

>>58866990
Installed debian on an old 2x usb broadcomm board router. Usb key is acting as a main/swap drive. Most l33t haxxor shit tever did tbqh

>>58869843
Softether can also emulate openvpn.
It really is worth the try

>>58866990
So what's the dealio with the orange pi pc 2?

Is it good as a low powered pc/htpc?

I have a raspberry pi 1 model b. How fucked am I?
Anything orher than command line is pain.

>>58868232
that's a great image

Beaglebone Black is great
No binary blobs

Are any of the SBC worth picking up as a small web host for development as well as maybe a streaming/ftp gateway/platform?

>>58867983
Yeah

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I'm looking for something with a proper SATA port, but everything we get basically uses a shitty USB adapter

found pic related, but it's just a prototype yet and no clue how it will perform irl

- dual core A9 @1.6 GHz (max 2Ghz)
- 1GB DDR3 (2GB optional)
- 4x SATA III
- 2x USB 3.0
- 1x Gigabit Ethernet
- Micro SD card
- Built-in HDD power circuitry for 4 disks
- 2x Fan PWM headers
- I2C, GPIO and extension pins
- Micro USB to Serial
- Dimension 100mm x 100mm

>>58870778
Finally. I was waiting for a proper SATA board.

>>58870778
There are some versions of orangepi and bananapi that have a sata port. But no idea how they perform

Your board does look nice, especially for a homebuild NAS

Whats the OpenGL driver like on the raspi?

>>58870700
Your best bet would be to get a sbc wuth 1 NIC and attach a usb-ethernet adapter
I haven't heard of any sbc's woth multiple NIC's
>>58870680
All of them are suited for such things.
>>58870239
Htpc, yes.
Pc, maybe. Work ok for light browsing and text editing, but anything else is just too slow

Anyone have experience with Orange Pi One H3? I need a 3D printer webserver with Octoprint. Also wondering if I should use a USB webcam or a Raspberry Pi CSI compatible camera that's connected with its own kind of a cable to the computer.

>>58866990
atom-powered raspberry pi
when?

>>58871785
Are you an idiot?

I just finished setting up my Pi-hole on my Rpi 3. Took some time to figure out why it wasn't working. Now it's set up, I'm just not sure it's doing what it's supposed to do.

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>>58866990
Why are people so obsessed with ARM boards? There's plenty of x86 boards out there too that are good for the price with native sata as well as support for all x86 software.

>>58871884
No, you?

>>58871925
>micro ATX
>mini ITX
Are you kidding?

>>58871925
Because if it's not the size of a credit card its not FUTURISTIC ENOUGH XDDDD

>>58867176
I just ordered Orange Pi One, am waiing for it to get delivered. They say it's just as good as raspberry, but the community is small, so if you're using it you're on your own

>>58871925
Form factor and power considerations.

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>>58871925
celery boards are shit tier
at this point it doesn't matter if it's ARM or CISC
the only reason one might argue is that some proprietary software is not available on ARM

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What do you guys think about LattePanda?
Is it good?

>>58872079
Other than size and price they're superior in almost every way.

>sata 3.0 6gbps
>USB 3.0
>x86 processors with 10w or less peak power draw that annihilates raspberry pi in performance
>8 or 16GB ram
>pcie
>etc

Only pi I'd consider is the orange pi pc and pc2 just because they're so much cheaper. Otherwise, why bother?

>>58866990
Can i do something with the PI Zero or it's just a $5 trumps meme?

>>58872199
Just save some more and buy an odroid c2 with the emmc, you'll have a desktop replacement for the most part.

>>58872199
You can do plenty with them, either come up with an idea or shove it up your ass

>>58872244
Thanks.
>>58872263
That's not a bad idea, i can make it control a vibrating stick covered with a penis-like silicon base or maybe i can connect some wires and control the current to pleasure my cock and nipples.

>>58872164
>Other than size and price
So other than the entire 100% percentile reason to have them. Great. Moron...

>>58872117
Why do they always put this shielding on top of cpu? There is 100% shitty thermal paste underneath.

I am looking for a cheap soc with two NICs that can run sophos utm. Does somebody know a good one?

>>58872476
It's an atom CPU. The chip beneath that metal thing is bare, it's showing the silicon. No shielding, and 90% of the boards would be fucked by retards and a static discharge.

>>58872386
no problem, just remember, buy the emmc for no regrets

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What low-level projects could be done with a beaglebone black or any other open hardware sbc?

>>58872488
Their website looks like generic snake oil. Put a pfsense on espressoboard and that's it.

>>58872117
Specs and pricewise, it looks like a good alternative to Intel NUC

>>58872519
Flashing Libreboot on different hardware Free As In Freedom (tm).

>>58868694
install mate on it
= 'pc' for anything, apart from browser as it only has 1gb ram
install mate & make headless , is server, always on
use it for torrenting overnight

>>58871925
>SBC
>About the same amount electricity cost of a light bulb
>Great processing speed for any of your server or automated task needs
>About the size of a wallet
>Cheap

>""""Mini"""" itx
>Standard desktop TDP
>About 10x bigger than SBCs
>Pricey
>You may as well have gotten a fully functional desktop at this point

>>58872639
Are you an idiot?

>>58872639
>10W
>Standard desktop TDP

>>58872670
Are you? He just gave a good answer.

>>58872639
Then there is:
>already use a mini ITX as a desktop
>buy another one
>I just doubled the size of my shit

>>58869191
Not really. I mean windows runs okay but the atom just isn't that good. Mine gets quite hot as well and randomly shuts down and all it is running is kodi. Was a backer of the deal with the screen and it's never left it's box

Dreampi for my retro online dreamcast games.

>>58872685
Except he didn't.

Which desktop processor has a 10w tdp?
Which SBC is a tenth the physical size of a mini itx board? If you consider $70 pricey then stop wasting time on SBCs and find a job.

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>>58871785
http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_372951.html

>>58872685
No you didn't you fucking idiot.

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>>58872799
>Which desktop processor has a 10w tdp?
no one? usually it is higher (pic related) and he never said a desktop processor has a 10W tdp

>Which SBC is a tenth the physical size of a mini itx board?
mini-itx is 17 × 17 cm = 289 cm^2
the raspberry pi zero is 6.5 x 3 cm = 19.5 cm^2
14.8 times smaller.

>If you consider $70 pricey then stop wasting time on SBCs and find a job.
getting cheaper electronics goods is a bad thing? you are literally a consumerist bitch

>>58871925
Raspberry Pis are not representative of all the ARM board options.
You can get competing ARM boards for 1/4 the price or less.

>>58872701
What's your set up look like?

>>58873061
i5+GTX1070 packed in a node 202

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>>58870869
I have a bananaPi and w/ a SATA disk I get ~50MB/s over NFS

not really great, but for a cheap NAS it could be worse...

>>58872967
Which one of those boards he posted at that price would have one of those processors you posted in that image?

Stop moving the goalposts.

trying to get my feet wet with some raspberry pi projects and Python programming
I suck so bad holy shit

>>58873129
Do you have the motherboard and everything for that? I was looking into a mini itx build but kinda lazy to measure all the components myself to make sure they fit

>>58873201
>Which one of those boards he posted at that price would have one of those processors you posted in that image?
Sorry didn't noticed you were talking about the boards in this >>58871925 picture.
Anyway the raspberry pi burns 4W, is way smaller than a mini-itx board and cheaper. If it is able to do the work you need it for, then it is a good deal. This was his >>58872639 point. No intention to "move the goalpost".

>>58873201
None of them, but the guy said "Standard desktop TDP" which isn't what any of those mITX boards have.

They're not moving the goalposts, just pointing out the claim is retarded.

Regarding the RPi Zero, why the FUCK did they space the micro usb ports so damn close to each other?
Practically everything you plug in butts against each other, if only they moved it literally just 3mm away you could comfortably fit a micro cable for power and a shim to full size on the other.

>>58871925
>unironically wanting to stay on X86

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>>58873435
probably not that easy. A possible solution could be to remove the plastic cover from the musb cable.

>>58873665
I've got a bunch of Anker micro usb cables, the ones I have fitted to Pi Zeros I think I'll just have to take a blade to and shave off some of the plastic housing.

>>58866990
Has there been any news about if that Asus Tinker Board will support FOSS firmware? I've heard it uses the same SoC as the Asus C201 Chromebook which is supported by Libreboot.

>>58873170
>but for a cheap NAS it could be worse...
Iktf. 8MBps with rpi, smb.
Been thinking about getting an sbc with gbit nic, but it feels like consumerism if i do get it.

There is a database being kept but its not really all that good of a site driving it. Maybe I will make one and keep it updated.

>>58867176
Ordered an Orange Pi Zero and I'm waiting for it, apparently the drivers are pretty bad or non existent

Anyone use an embedded Linux distribution?

I'll be managing one at work so want to get some experience at home. Im thinking more like embedded Linux on arduino or similar, rather than running on A Pi.

>>58874759
>embedded Linux on arduino
how the hell are you going to install linux on a microcontroller with few kilobytes of memory?

>>58874872
Having googled more, I'm thinking it'll need to be something on the level of the pi. But more rtos style Linux, rather than GPOS Linux.

I'm using an stm32f0 dev board to prototype a wav player I'm designing. My goal is to use this and get rid of my smart phone since it's basically a $400 mp3 player at this point.

>>58874759
If you need a linux distribution you shouldn't be touching microcontrollers / embedded stuffs.

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Best single board computer to run a media (music movies) gui on?
Gonna have a 2tb hdd plugged in so it needs sata, and it's going to a tv so it needs HDMI

>>58875014
>interrogation marks
Wut.

Postan setup

Orangepi PC:
>Sickrage
>Couchpotato
>Deluge-web
>Mysql server
>Apache
>DNS
>DHCP
>Access point

Raspberry Pi 2:
>Kodi
>Deluge daemon
>SMB share

Planning on adding a mailserver when I feel confident enough in it. Postfix/Dovecot seems like a bitch to configure correctly.

every computer is single board

>>58874972
modern microcontrollers are more powerful than personal computers of 10 years ago.

>>58873876
No news whatsoever.
But yes, the chromebook uses a rockchip RK3288C and the tinker board RK3288

>>58875062
"?" is known as a question mark or an interrogation point. It appears that some mentally retarded child combined the two for the purposes of making that image to demonstrate their profound stupidity.

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>>58875533

>>58875465
You're right, but what is the point in using linux on a pic32? Linux is a personal computer operating system, not really as useful in embedded applications where you need a microcontroller to preform a handful of jobs.

>>58868151
Do you know an ETA on when that board drops?

>>58871925
size, I/O, architecture, power consumption

>>58875744
The fact that you can run a full OS on a microcontroller. I've got one I'm going to run BSD on for an atomic clock

>>58866990
I want to install Libreboot on an old laptop. Are there any SBCs cheaper than a Raspberry Pi 3 with the GPIO pins required? What about documentation and software support? I feel like a Raspberry Pi 3 would be the easiest, but I don't want to pay $35 for something I'm using once or twice, and I don't want to send in my laptop and pay $80-100 for someone else to do it.

>>58875762
Uh the Orange Pi 512mb has been a thing for a while.

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>>58866990
Why is there so few projects that include the board within the keyboard like the following?

All keyboard pc being sold are too expensive.

>>58868329
cryptsetup luksOpen on the main partition of the sd card from a computer

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>>58872164
>Other than size and price they're superior in almost every way.
When you spend more money you get better specs, who could have seen that one coming, wow anon you're such a genius

>>58870778
How exactly are you supposed to power the molex ports? USB to molex (is that even a thing?)?? I hope they don't seriously expect me to plug in a PSU to that thing.

>>58877194
I'd imagine the molex ports are to power the SATA drives

>>58877250
No I understand that, but what I'm saying is what do I use to power said ports? Yes, obviously a molex plug. But what do I use to get power to the molex plug that I place in it? USB to molex and just plug in the other side to the usb ports onboard or with a separate usb power supply? Or a whole Flex PSU or something.

>>58877281
I'm guessing the molex ports are powered by the board, which receives power from its PSU. Why would you think it works any other way?

>>58867328
friends don't let friends buy allwinner shit

>>58877327
Why would they be male though? Would you just get a male-to-female adapter to allow your drive to get power to it? I'm not sure I understand why else you would make it a male jack. How do you expect me to plug in a drive's power slot to a male jack?

>>58877374
The board most likely comes with whatever cables you need.

>>58877436
That would make sense then. Seems like a nice board overall.

I have a chink android box gathering dust I need to find a use for, give me ideas

Cons:
- it's half broken and does not allow for any other OS other than Android 4.4.2
- NAND is fucked and it only recognizes about 800mb of free space but has an SD slot

but the box is pretty so I feel it's a waste that I'm not using it for anything

I don't need a media center, by the way

>>58866990
HOW DO I WRITE A PROGRAM IN ASSEMBLY FOR THE H3 ALLWINNER CHIP TO CONTROL THE GPIO

I've looked through the manual and found the names of the pins but... I don't know. Don't I need the base address to write to or something? I DONT KNOW

What's a simple program that just turns a pin on and off via assembly?

I want to create a 'headunit' for my car with some additional functionality. Which touch screen would you suggest I use with a rpi? Also I want something that will boot fast. Are there are super stripped down versions of raspbian or any other distros? I see this Automotive Grade Linsux out there, but I don't think I want to deal with that.

>>58877910
seconding this, I'm trying to come up with a light controller for a car

>>58868072
I like my ODROID C1 for CPU performance but the GPU is a Mali so it's kinda useless for Linux applications that are GPU accelerated.

I used it as a server with Arch (the debian image kernel panicked nonstop for some reason so I was forced to) with an external 1TB USB HDD with XFS as a Plex/Deluge/Samba box and it worked amazingly though. I had to manually compile the kernel with XFS support, however.

I've actually been considering getting a SBG to mess around with networking and an email server.

For a 12 meter apartment with plywood walls, would the RPi3's onboard wifi suffice? How is the support for gateway switches? I have a couple of things on ethernet.

>>58866990
Which board do I get to have an EZ BitTorrent thing that I can maybe control from my real desktop?

>>58877992
any resources on how to compile my own kernel?

>>58878566
Orange pi pc plus

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>>58870931
WHAT opengl driver? You don't get proper openGL on raspberry pi. You can't get that on practically anything except I.MX6 based boards.

Like the hummingboard line, brought to you super nicely from the holy land!

>open up the thread
>expect discussion about projects
>99% of posts is "muh dick" hardware comparison without any usage scenarios
I hate you all so much.

>>58879279
Noticed this too.

I've got 1 pi2, planning to use it and another pi-zero to make an automated home rover. With video and manual control.

Currently the pi2 is a testing home web nodes server. While classes are still going on. No free time to really make headway with job and school.

>>58872584
thanks anon

>>58879605
what the ef is a home web nodes server?

>>58877910
RPI has the most support from the community and projects that have already been done before.

What this means is that you're going to have a much easier time finding a variety of options for a touch screen interface for rpi and possibly someone else doing the same project than any other board.

>>58879665
nobody gives a shit, start talking real world application already for fuck's sake! If I want to read up on the theory I just browse the fucking wiki for fuck's sake!

>>58872199
>Should I buy the Pi Zero?
>No, buy the odroid
Heh

Fuck this thread

>>58879718
>Fuck this thread
this

>>58875465
Microcontrollers != embedded processors

A STM32F7 is still absolutely no match for an old Athlon 64 + GPU

I have two Orange PI PCs that I have set up openmpi on to do cluster stuff (will add more) but currently they are just doing boinc science (asteroids@home).
However, for some reason the NFS share I had setup fucked up causing shitload of workunits to fail so I dunno what I'm gonna do there. Perhaps I will just keep the data files on the microsds and run scripts to periodically sync them with my server instead. MicroSD cards are really cheap so it doesn't matter too much if they die quicker, I'll have images ready to reflash and get them back up and running quickly anyway.

Just bought a new Pi zero for 20 bucks.
Am i buttfucked by the seller?

>>58880866
They're still in short supply?
>tfw bought one for $5 shortly after they came out and have yet to do anything with it

>>58867050
this

Still waiting for 4GB boards to be sold. There exists one, but it's incredibly difficult to find and the company that makes them don't have them in their part configurator.

>>58871909
man im struggling with fucking wifi on my pi3, ive given up like 3 times. I want to make it a pihole also

>>58880866
buttfucked
https://www.adafruit.com/product/2885

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>>58881227
Why is that camera cable more expensive than the board?

>>58868151
Recently got my orangepi zero 256 mb version. Just installed rtorrent+rutottent on it. Running fine for now.

>>58881220
With pi-hole the important thing is to make the setup with the adapter you want to use. So if you do the setup on ethernet and go wireless, it won't work.

>>58880866
The Pi zero gets sold at a loss, they need to recuperate with the add-ons.
That's what I think.

Anyone know where to get PC/104 boards for cheap?

>>58881243
The cable is a quality product.

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>>58881544
Buying a overpriced gold-plated usb cable that is isolated with a piece of a female(male) foreskin for 1000$. For cleaner connection.

>>58877454
>>58877436
>male port as power source
Absolutely nonstandard, and a little bit dangerous.

>>58872872
I'd have bought one years ago if I didn't already have a GPD win.
Too many little atom boxex with too little to actually use them for.

>>58881368
I doubt it, it's just a single SOC with a couple dozen discrete components, nothing special.
Sold at cost, maybe. But not below.

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>>58866990

I bought a Rasperry Pi 3 and Raspberry Pi Display (looks like pic related but plastic).

Was originally gonna set up a mini emulation set-up, but then I realized I would never use it. So I have it set up as a photo frame/weather station right now.

Using Kodi with a picture screensaver and default screen set to weather. Kinda of a lazy way to set it up.

Anyone got any better ideas?

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>>58866990
Stopped buying SBCs... too many already.

Will resist until RV64G boards are available.

>>58875443
Motherboard + psu = 2 boards

>>58867050
>implying pi and all the sbc shits aren't just consumerism toys

>>58881782
>too many already.
Post setups, need inspiration

>>58881795
motherboard + DC adapter = 2 boards
checkmate!

>>58875443
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-board_computer
>Unlike a desktop personal computer, single board computers often do not rely on expansion slots for peripheral functions or expansion.

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Just picked up a Creator Ci40. Not really sure what I'm going to use it for yet, I just want to see how it stacks up to the Ci20. Plus look at all that I/O

>>58872079
ARM only has proprietary gpu drivers and even those show an unbelievable amount of incompetence.

>>58872519
anything really, because of the microcontrollers it has in the cpu

>>58872967
Raspberry pi is literally the epitome of consumerism: cheap low quality junk
>100mbit ethernet shared over fucking USB 2.0 (only good enough for shitposting, terrible for serious workloads)
>32bit operating system on 64bit hardware
>no ECC RAM
>USB 2.0 is the system bus (completely worthless as NAS)
>SD card based storage that gets easily corrupted

What's a good windows mini itx replacement for desktop use?

I already use odroid with Linux for desktop use but I need to use proprietary programs

>>58873601
>unirionically wanting to get cucked by ARM and SoC vendors
kek

>>58868151
Idk if that's a good idea. Think about it, chinese company and a chinese board with the firmware only known to chinese companies thus allowing easy access to the chinese government. I wouldn't trust that thing with my data at all. VPN or otherwise.

>inb4 Paranoid anon

It's not paranoia whenever it's true

>>58870258
256mb model or 512 model? The Pi 1 B has 2 revisions

>>58879223
What about the i.MX 8 Family?

>>58871785
Never. The RPi foundation is non-profit and Broadcomm donates to it. Unless Intel invests into it there is no way Broadcomm would allow it.

>>58882914
>Beaglebone Black is blobless
We already have it covered. Would use a BBB than intel's shit. Especially since it has intel's imu. Wouldn't trust that shit

>>58883067
IME*

>>58869934
The Bulgarian company? Are their product worth it?

>>58882899
>completely worthless as NAS
Are you actually telling me that the Raspberry Pi is incapable of streaming 1080p content?

>>58883067
>beagle bone black is blobless

i thought it was just the boot code and cpu rendered framebuffer

there isnt blobless 3d accel drivers correct?


and for that matter is there anything more open then mali gpus?

its sad when the alternitives are POWERVR ect

>>58882899
Some people think that SBCs could make a cheap "mini" home server but that definitely wrong.
After all, like you said, why would anyone even try to use something with no sata ports and mbit connection as nas? that's clearly not the purpose of this product.

The only "consumerist" side of SBCs is that everyone now want one because it's the cool gadget of the moment and obviously electronics companies will try to tap that demand.

Beyond that, the pi and derivatives are cool boards to experiment and mess around with embedded applications using gpio, learning something in the process without the risk of damaging expensive hardware. (Remember that the initial purpose of the raspy foundation was to deliver an inexpensive computer to teach programming in unwealthy schools).

>>58883311
Unless you're reading off the SD card, you have to load video to memory, then push it out through ethernet, all on the same single USB port.

>>58883668
I only need the file, I do the playback on the local device. I don't think it's too slow for that.

>>58883559
There are fairly cheap SBCs that have gigabit Ethernet not shared with another bus and at least one SATA port you know.

I need something to stream live video NBA (international league pass) to my old TV. Sometimes play back video files and stream other stuff.

What's the smartest way to do this? I'm used to just plugging my computer to the TV but I'd like to get a dedicated machine for the streaming.

Raspberry pi 3 model b okay?

>>58883559
SATA & Gbit NIC are becoming pretty commonplace now
>Remember that the initial purpose of the raspy foundation was to deliver an inexpensive computer to teach programming in unwealthy schools
And the community saw it could also work for inexpensive home setups.

>start a robot snowblower
>give up

tfw want to build a mgic mirror that tells me encouraging words in the morning to console myself as I get ready for work

tfw too dumb to do it myself and too poor to commission someone to do it for me. mass production when?

>>58885512
<he can't meme arrow
lmao@you

<<58886509
<Implying

I have two questions:
1. I have a banana pi which will be a simple NAS, what software would you recommend? Currently I'm thinking about Nextcloud, otherwise seafile.
2. I want to stream movies (1080p) on my TV, probably with kodi. Is the raspberry pi 3 model b a good option here regarding price and performance or are there any other boards which I should consider for this?

Starting my senior design project, making a single board RISC-V computer that uses the Freedom U soft-processor design on an FPGA. Probably an Artix 7. Would you guys be interested in that?

>>58880866
>Pi zero for 20 bucks
>$20
Yes, yes you did. I mean it's easier because I live here but I bought one last week for £4, a usb shim for £2, and a case for £5

>>58886998
>plastic case more expensive than computer
i hate this world

>>58888473
mass production rules.
Time to get a 3d printer.

Rpi 3b $34
Case $7
1TB external $54
32GB Micro SD $13
Am I all set for an FTP,webserver,pfsense,torrent,machine? I'm planning on dual booting with retro pie for gaming too, any problems with partitioning the SD? Will an old micro USB phone charger power everything?

>>58886940
Definitely

>>58888581
>Time to get a 3d printer.
Inb4 you don't use it enough to pay off the investment.

>>58889551
I don't know, the application in diy and fixing shit are considerable, it would probably be worth paying something in the 500-800 eur range if only they were bigger and employed stronger materials.

>>58889214
get an emmc instead of the micro sd

Anyone have experience with the Intel UP?

>>58889214
Ftp will be sluggish with the 100Mbit NIC, but still not too bad
pfsense doesn't run on ARM last I checked. iptables is still an option though.
>Will an old micro USB phone charger power everything?
Pretty sure it will work. 5v, 2.5a should be enough.

>>58866990
How slow is a orange pi zero + nas board?

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Friendly reminder before you buy to consider the ODROID C2, it outperforms a Rpi 3:

CPU of 2.0 GHZ with integrated heatsink.
2 GB RAM.
GPU of 700 MHz.
HDMI 2 40K 60 FPS.
h265 video compression.
microSD + eMMC for storage.
4 USB 2.0 + microUSB OTG.
40 pin UART.
ADC pins (!)
Infrared receiver
10/100/1000 LAN (1 gigabit ethernet).
64-bit ARM technology.
Optional eMMC slot (BUY THIS).

Can play Kodi just fine. Also games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn10J9K58YA

>>58889214
>Will an old micro USB phone charger power everything?
Probably not. I hear that Rpis are quite sensitive to voltage falling below 5V and phone chargers aren't the greatest when it comes to consistent voltage.

My OrangePI PCs are okay down to 4.85V at least.

>>58890182
>HDMI 2 40K 60FPS
Woah.

>>58890182
big deal, a lot of SBCs outperform the raspberry

>>58890208
don't forget to buy a proper 4k cable

>>58890247
at this price?

>>58890280
>$40.00
good point

>>58890341
of course I always advise to buy the eMMC because specs get insanely higher, that raises the price

>>58889755
>>58890182
>>58890192
Thanks I'll consider the Odroid C2 instead of the rp 3b then, with a real charger. Shame the C2 doesn't have Bluetooth though.

just curious, i saw a video about a cluster raspberry with antminer for mining

why? is there any advantage by using cluster raspberry with antminer for bitcoin mining?

>>58890686
A lot of bitcoin mining setups are done to do it, not to profit from it

>>58866990
I was looking into building a little display for my desk that contains a calendar and a to-do list that syncs up to my phone.

Is this possible with Pi? I'm a total newbie at this type of stuff, but just want to know if it's possible.

>>58891012
Sure, buy the $22 3.5 inch screen, install android and google calendar.

>>58890705
so why does it need raspberry cluater? Care to explain?

>>58891737
Cheap
Experience with cluster software and tools
Mining has already been setup to run on clusters

Is there any GPU on the market that someone could combine with an ARM CPU for a functional self-designed PC? All this closed-source shit pisses me off.

>>58891737
Like I said, to do it

>>58892150
seconding this question

>>58872117
$$$. $$?!!

>>58881768
I3-gaps / conkey could make it look nice and ricey

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Is this any good?

>>58875990
Are u retarded? Pi isnt a microcontroller. Microcontrollers =/= microprocessors. Microcontrollers can NOT run an OS.

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What would the best board to run openvpn on? I am going to get a Rpi 3b to run pi hole on and run random projects on. I just want to slow my internet speeds the least when using openvpn. Already using a odroid C2 for kodi.

>>58893335
Learn to read, I wasn't taking about the Pi, you dumbass.
>Microcontrollers can NOT run an OS.
Incorrect.

Newfag here. What are some good projects for beginners using single board computers? I have no experience with them at all but I'm trying to learn.

>>58893368
https://pimylifeup.com/

What's the current best free-as-in-freedom SBC?
I'd like to run it as a general purpose home server (NAS, rsync backups, etc) so at least sata ports and gigabit ethernet are essential.

>>58893391

Thanks

>>58879822
>Microcontrollers can NOT run an OS.
Yes they can.. and they do. 512 flash and 128 ram is enough.
see: uClinux

>>58893502
hell you can even run full BSDs on a microcontroller, see retro/litebsd

>>58893358
Using your Pi-hole device for other stuff is problematic. The first thing Pi-hole does is restrict direct IP connections to that device, so you lose things like remote desktop immediately. You probably couldn't access the router settings remotely because of the same reason.

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>>58866990

Can someone suggest some heat sinks for orangepi zero? It reaches over 70C sometimes with avg of 50C. Don't want it to burn.

>>58893546
There seems to be a lot of people running openvpn and pi hole on the same boards, so there must be a way around that. Haven't looked into it yet. Because the pi is only 10/100 I thought it would be better to run openvpn on a gigabit equipped board.

>>58894271
Oh, okay, I'll look into it. Thanks!

>>58894249
There are lots of generic heat sinks on amazon or ali. Any of which should work.

https://smile.amazon.com/Addicore-Raspberry-Heatsink-Aluminum-Sinks/dp/B00HPQGTI4/ref=pd_cart_cps_1_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KPBX383C5VQCK02DZXJZ

>>58893358
>already using a odroid C2 for kodi
Yes and? From what I've read, the C2 has a lot of horsepower.
Just run openvpn and kodi next to eachother.

>>58893558
>my piss mall

>>58867050
B-but you can rice an arch desktop on a SBC!

>>58895952
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who read it that way.

>>58893502
Who are you quoting?

>>58896885
This dumbass >>58893335

>>58893265

Those are for a real desktop though, right? I am judt tryig to get a photoframe/weather screen set up.

I ended up messing with themes and wallpapers and it looks a lot better now.

>>58879137
http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:c1_building_kernel

>>58893329
>New x86 SBC
I'll answer your question with a question.
Price?

>>58893335
Microcontrollers are just microprosessors with embedded memory and rom m8
>>58893394
Orange pi's, completely open hardware makes it nice.

>>58886836
Pi3 has amazing performance for playing 1080p content, over wireless im not really sure. It really depends on the bitrate, the Pi is STILL 100mbps (why??) but it's never realistically going to max that out properly.

>>58896941
I'm planning to buy an orange pi on AliExpress. To come with this, what good/cheap LCD touchscreen module would you recommend?

>>58897297
I don't do modules, just check what the community has to say.
I'm pretty sure orange pi themselves have made a couple, maybe try them if they're not too expensive?

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Just saw this, looks kinda nice.

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>Pentium Quad Core 8GB memory/64GB eMMC

>>58897754
>$200+

>>58897754
>for the price of an used PC

>>58897860
>an used

>>58896937
>1gb RAM with 16gb storage
$89
>2gb RAM with 16gb storage
$99
>4gb RAM with 64gb storage
$149

>>58893191
>2gb RAM with 32gb storage
$89
>4gb RAM with 64gb storage
$149

>>58897899
>paying premium for x86
I'll pass for now.

>>58866990
Just read the filename on the op, that thing's made by asus?
Cool, anyone read up about it? Looks like asus just spent the last four years copying the original pi desu.
>55 pounds
Expensive as fuck or heavy as a data general nova.
Other than fhour khay what's the benifit.

>>58897899
I know, I read the prices. Still.
Oh, sorry, thought you where >>58897754
replying to >>58897806
>>58897860, and to that I say
>>58897874
>$269 + tax

>>58897923
You'll always pay premium for a x86 board. Not the fault of the board makers.
It's the fault of Intel.

>>58897949
Weren't atom SOC's $20 at some point?
Back when they where PoP.

>>58897949
The lowest of the low atom x5 model is $30. $25 in bulk.
Then you have the r&d, manufacturing costs and the costs of other chips and connectors. x86 offers more possibilities, so there are usually more connectors and better specs.
x86 board also usually include a high amount of storage, that adds up too.
You end up with a high price.

With an ARM board the chip costs $5 or so in bulk, and usually come with 16gb of storage or less. Easy to shave off $50 at least.

>>58897973
The actual prices for Atom chips are:
>x5-Z8300
$30 unit, $25 bulk
>x5-Z8500
$37 unit, $32 bulk
>x5-E8000
$60 unit, $55 bulk
>x7-Z8700
$52 unit, $48 bulk

>>58877374
>male-to-female adapter
:^)

>>58898015
I could swear the old PoP chips, for phones, not laptops, where cheaper.

>>58898124
They are supposedly cheaper.
The x5-Z8300 is supposed to be $21, but Intel doesn't really sells it at that price point, except when in orders of hundreds of thousands.

>>58898143
Silly intel...

>>58871925
You can also emulate x86 with ARM. Yeah not going to perform but it's possible.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/x86-emulation-rumored-to-be-coming-to-windows-for-arm-in-late-2017/

>>58872117
Expensive toaster but I like the arduino pinout.

>>58871925
The beauty of SBCs is that you get to get away from x86, something that's much harder and/or more impractical to do with desktops and laptops. None of my SBCs are ARM though

I'm thinking of setting up a tiny little thing capable of running Windows 10 (for my mother), also probably attached to a monitor.

The only real requirements are having it work smoothly with win10, fast boots, writing docs, viewing youtube at 1080 at most and able to handle shit optimized sites with lots of pictures and dynamic elements. I think at least 4gb RAM would be sufficient.

Is the latest pi even close to taking on this task nowadays?

>>58883213
Haven't checked the alternatives like beaglebone's prices. Might be a better deal price and hardware wise. Also I've seen complaints about the gigabit Ethernet on the LIME2. Can't personally test it right now. There are SATA ports on pretty much every model.

>>58898346
out of curiosity, what's so beautiful about arm over x86 except power consumption? Drivers are often a bitch to use and I would absolutely prefer an intel iGPU over some Mali bullshit.

>>58895171
this, if you have the emmc it should be no problem

>>58872519
Quite expensive but that's what's happens when you start including more features.

>>58898456
x86 is a very well polished turd, but in the end, it's still a turd. I'd rather have something that's decently polished and not a turd, e.g. pretty much any other architecture.

>fall for the chink orange pi pc meme
>it locked me into linux
wtf it's supposed to be free yet i can't even change it

>>58898591
what makes x86 a turd?

>>58898640
what do you mean locked?

>>58898647
It's an ancient 16-bit architecture with 32-bit and later 64-bit extensions piled on top, and the assembly is complete ass. Meanwhile other architectures started out as 32-bit with 64-bit in mind and are much easier to work with at lower levels.

>>58898640
You can change it to anything you want, even something you've completely written from scratch.
(It's just that there's nothing else to switch to)
Other than armbian, android, all the other available distros.

>>58898659
>manufacturer only provides Linux distros
>the board itself uses some weird uboot stuff which only Linux supports

>>58898640
>>58898799
>buy hardware
>don't look into supported software
You brought this upon yourself.

>>58898799
The uboot source is all available, you can basically get stock uboot working on the thing if you want.

>>58866990
Has anyone ever put together a price performance chart?

>they always shill loonix with the phrase "free as in freedom"
>getting constantly harassed for exercising my freedom of choice
Every time.

If by free as in freedom you mean "you have the freedom to choose what I have, or you'll be sorry" it's not freedom.

is weather station good idea for first project?

>>58899746
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
free software mean you can do what the fuck with it, not that programmers will automagically develop what you want for you.

>>58899514
I can do this if /sbcg/ gains some traction.

>>58899813
Reading out temperature and humidity is easy enough.
If you want more than that, you will need to read up a lot more to get it to work.

>>58899832
keep twisting the meaning of the word, the reality of it is, you do whatever the fuck you please, and will go jihad against anyone who isn't using what you have

>>58899746
>gas station
>but I end up putting liquid in my car

>>58899856
It's not about grammar, free software is about source code licensing, but you only learned a meme on /g/ so now you think that "free" has a more deep meaning than what you can or cannot do with the source code.
The wikipedia article is clear:
>Free software is computer software distributed under terms that allow the software users to run the software for any purpose as well as to study, change, and distribute the software and any adapted versions.

Now, if you don't like linux then you can use another software I suppose.

>>58899953
There's always a fucking meaningless debate over nothing, and the thread is not getting any actual content. Here I was hoping I get an actual fucking idea or two what useful things I could do with my Pi, instead I'm getting shit like "get odroid, get this, get that, hurr ARM sucks durr, go x86" and so on.

I'm so sick and tired of all this shit.

>>58877374
>powering sata through 4-pin molex

>>58899986
How fucking new to /g/ are you?

>>58899986
let's say you are posting in the wrong website, seriously what kind of content do you expect on 4chan?
If you really like imageboards so much you should try lainchan or something similar.

>>58900026
>trying lainddit
better just switch boards to /b/ or /pol/

>>58899986
>how to most efficiently sum up /g/ in one post

https://pimylifeup.com/

>>58900074
what?

>>58900201
Feel the Bern, felllow lainons
*posts laptop full of stickers*

>>58899856
You seem to think it means someone will magic your favorite OS onto it for you. That's not what it fucking means.
It means I can do what the fuck I want with it because I can program. If you can't program all you can do is beg. So that why YOU should check what software's available first.
>>58899986
If you're not creative enough to work out shit to do with a SBC, or have enough brain cells to check hackaday.io, then we can't help you.

>>58879646
nodejs web server :s

testing front end / back end transactions .

>>58876623
Most aesthetic computing

>>58868232
that image cracked me up, especially rhe one with two dudes using the same switch.

>>58900003
plenty of people do that dumbass, im saying you would then use a converter for molex to sata.

Pi hole used to be cool thing to stick on a Pi, but being I have Win10 Pro I just threw up a tiny VM in Hyper-V and installed Pihole there instead.

>>58902805
why would you do that instead of just editing your host file? unless you direct the rest of your network traffic to go to your desktop that's always-on.

>>58902822
The DNS setting on my ISP router can't be configured so I have to set any device I want to use towards the Pihole, since I only use my desktop and phone with it I figured fuck it and use the pi for something else.

>>58903067
can't you simply get a new router

>>58903067
What about editing the DNS settings on your PC?

>>58903510
that's what he's saying he's doing

>>58903080
Stupid policy that you have to use their gear

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So how's the driver support and software in general on the Odroid C2 compared to the Pi 3 which as such a big community around it?

I really want to get a C2, but I'm afraid I'll get caught in a buttload of issues because of such a small community and so few projects done with it compared to all those documented projects done on the Pi.