Meme-tier-software-that-/g/-will-defend thread

>>58862943
The problem is not LaTeX. The problem is these faggots who think they're "l33t" because only normies use realtime editors and sheit.
They pretend like it's a replacement for Office, which it simply isn't. It's great for its actual purpose, like you said.

>>58862943
>not just handwriting anything that isn't trivial to input into a PC
Latex is a total waste of time. The pen and paper have withstood the test of time

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Usually you will have to TeX if your course or scientific supervisor demands

MS Word turns to complete shit once you go past 10 pages with lots of figures and tables.

At that point, using LaTeX is actually easier.

Who /stackedit/ here?

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>>58862943
LaTeX is great. If you run Linux or OSX, you should try this workflow:

1. Open a .tex file to edit with Vim.
2. Run this Vim command:

autocmd BufWritePost *.tex !latex FILENAME.tex && dvipdf FILENAME.dvi

3. Write to file, autocmd runs and puts the output pdf in the same directory
4. Open file with an auto-updating pdf viewer
5. Make changes and save and see the output immediately in the pdf viewer.

Seriously, it is so fucking nice to write papers and forms like this. You have total control and you don't have to gouge your eyes out looking for the right button or menu item in Word or Libre to do what you want.

>>58864236
Looks neat, thanks.

>>58864251
Yeah thats fuckin right
Thx for sharing this trick !

>>58862943
>He's too stupid to use LaTeX
Enjoy your amateurish looking documents, while mine look excellent.

>>58864251
or you can just get texstudio with all of this functionality and more?

vim, emacs and other """""""leet""""""" text editors. Hurr look at me, I'm sooo special because when I type, I don't even add text to the document HURRRRRRR
Just use nano if you want a lightweight editor, grep / awk for replacing and that's it. Even gedit is comfier than your needlessly complicated program.

>>58862943
>huge amount of mathematical or chemical formulas
latex makes writing / editing these things less of a pain, but all documents are easier to write when you use latex.

1. The editors are better.
2. Images are separate from the document, so you can easily update all images at once.
3. you are forced to use the best tools for the task.

The only problem with latex is you have to learn how to use it, but you can learn that in a day, probably less if you know what you want your document to look like.

>>58865233
Having trouble reaching the grapes, anon?

>>58862943
>write document in latex
>compile it 20 years later
>it's the fucking same

>write document in cockx
>wait 20 years
>there is no software that can open/edit it properly

>>58863012
basically this

>>58862943
Why so mean? Are you alright?

>>58863012
actually, LaTeX is great when you're composing anything larger than a few pages of text that need to be kept in certain structure and maintained in future.
That applies to books, articles or even presentations.
Sure LateX has a quite steep learning curve but bunce it's overcome, it's so much easier to edit content or alter formatting without worrying about fucking whole shit up.

>>58863012
>>58866750

nope
none of us LaTeXfags think it's a replacement for WYSIWYG ediytors. It's just way superior at larger documents.
Also it has NOTHING to do with our autism.

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>>58862943

>>58862943
>not exclusively writing shit with a huge amount of mathematical or chemical formulas

>>58865233
Writing software in vim is lightyears easier than nano

>>58864251
>wasting cycles to convert from dvi with potential errors
Just run pdflatex anon

It has nothing to do with autism. It's simply the best way of typesetting mathematic equations. So it's pretty much the standard at our uni in which papers, thesises, homework etc. is handed in.

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>>58869517
>It's simply the best way of typesetting mathematic equations
Doesn't get even close to MathType or MathMagic, and there are even plugins for Word that are better than LaTeX, like WordMat.

>>58862943
>Unless you are writing material that has a huge amount of mathematical or chemical formulas
niga what the fuck do you think i'm writing? novels?

>>58869664
Sorry for assuming you were actually contributing something of value to society.

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>>58869664
>he doesn't write novels

>>58869477
>wasting cycles

good troll meme

just use emacs and org mode
it basically becomes wysiwyg

i use it for my cv :^)

>>58864251
I just use Geany and use its built-in compiler to compile with latexmk -pdf

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>>58869686
>he doesn't write religious scriptures

>>58869779
>Geany

>>58864251
until it fails to compile and you get a blank screen lol

>>58869763
then you wonder why you won't get hired.

>>58862943
i use troff because LaTeX is bloated

>>58871449
XD

>>58864196
This so much

The amount of ignorance ITT is amusing

>>58869826
Lol except thats not what it would do it just wouldnt update the pdf

>>58862943
>I am too much of retard to LaTeX
the post

>>58869651

This guy actually knows what he's talking about.

Only fringe "mathematicians" use TeX.

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>>58862943

Deluge.

LATEX is to Word as Haskell is to C.

>>58872803
This

Have fun using some shit like Google drive or whatever and spending useless time to make an equation only for it to look like shit

I write anything I need to in engineering in latex now. It's easier

>>58862943

TeX can produce some beautiful documents. The problem is that most people equate "being able to create beautiful documents" with "always creates beautiful documents." Considering how often people wank on about TeX beauty, it's astonishing how many fucking dreadful looking documents I've seen created with it.

Mind you, that's probably because 90% of physicists are hideously design-challenged.

For simple documents I really like markdown. The code is human readable even for non-tech people and it's very hard for a WYSIWYG editor to fuck shit up if anyone wants to use one.

I wish the internet used markdown instead of HTML/CSS/JS/etc. A web browser would be very light and basic customization like colour schemes (nighf mode) would actually be usable. Also far less security vulnerabilities without JS.

How would we handle forms /g/ ?

>>58866696
>Compiling a document 20 years later
I don't think cockx is the problem here

>>58869785
fun fact: There's a modern rewrite of TeX called SILE which was created partly because it is impossible to do typesetting on a grid in TeX, which is required in order to publish Bibles, where you want the lines on the front and the back of a page to line up, because the paper is so thin.

>>58873353
had to handle 20 year old .doc files just a few months ago

>>58862943
>Microsoft Office
>Photoshop
>Google Chrome
>Windows Vista, 8 and 10
>µTorrent

>>58873376

.doc binaries aren't even remotely comparable to .docx

>>58873433
The source code would make so many security specialists cry.

>>58864251
There's a python script called rubber that simplifies compiling stuff with latex. It does the whole two pass thing to get references right automatically and will generate a pdf from a .tex with the -d flag

>>58862943
I'm a mathematician and use LaTeX. Am I autism?

>>58873526
yeah, not because you use latex but because you're a mathematician.

>>58869664
g.r.r martin uses latex, so, maybe.

>>58873605
If I would write books I'd rather write it in plain text (or markdown / latex) than something like doc(x). Why would you trust the software to still open your document in 10+ years?

>>58864196
Also if you change style in Word during writing a document, things will get unstable. Even worse if you edit the same document using different versions of Word. I used to have a Word document that was so toxic that opening it in Word terminated it immediately.

Danger zone starts around 10 pages.

With LaTeX I could write my thesis with no fear of computer implosion.

>>58862943
The only real problem with LaTeX appears (ahem) when you try googling for information.

Whatever those girls were doing it sure did not relate to text processing.

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>>58862943

>current year
>still being a wordcuck

Listen, if you need to write a 2 page homework assignment for Ms. Goldberg's 8th grade language arts class, I understand if you're still using Word/Writer.

But you're wasting your time if you use it for anything over 5 pages or with any references. LaTeX is the standard for a reason.

Also related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ-UCI9nmis

>>58873784
This. Fuck their naming scheme. Imagine if googling "word" showed you rap songs.

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>>58873605
He uses wordstar

>>58866899
Did you know that even fucking Libre Office has the functionality of letting the editor handle typesetting for the user nailed down? It's 2017. Yes, the GUI can be complicated but once you know what you're looking for, writing huge documents with gdocs, librememe or especially msoffice is effortless. The latter two even support le mathematical formulas very well.

>>58871449
Troff is nice. And I really prefer it. It's just that lack of maintenance and support for utf8 which is a pain in the ass. Especially for language specific characters. :/
Mandoc is good for writing manuals but for everything that need printing LaTeX is my go-to tool.

>>58873311
Actually my workflow goes like this:
Markdown>pandoc (with templates either for print or web)> paste into browser or do the finishing touches before PDF from LaTeX.

Asciidoc. Nobody typesets anymore.