Music Player Thread

Glorious KDE Master Race

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>>58846077
jesus you are really shilling this shit aren't you

just use audacious. it's like foobar for linux.

>>58846309
fb2k is shit though. I already fell for that meme.

>>58846281
Yeah, KDE really is the most advanced DE right now. It could use a little love in the area of multiple monitor virtual desktop support though (something like what mac has where you can have separate desktops per monitor. no, running separate xorg instances doesn't count)

I normally use Gnome3 for casual purposes and KDE for personal projects. How about you?

>>58846324
Foobar2000 is the best!
Most configurable player I've used.

Guayadeque looks intriguing though. I'll try it out.

mpsyt when listening to normie music, ncmpcpp when listening to my autismo shit

>>58846366
Xfce on laptop. KDE on desktop. Waiting for KDE 5.9

>>58846382
I'll admit that fb2k is more configurable given that it has plugin support. However, I just found it to be too simple for my needs. I know my library size is pretty small in those screenshots, but when I first started using it awhile back I had a library that was too large to easily manage. Guayadeque helped me fix the metadata (especially album artist and genre) on my music and filter it based on a number of different criteria simultaneously. If Spotify or Google Play Music let me create dynamic playlists with this much control I would use them (I was using them for awhile, hence why my library is tiny now). I just can't handle simplistic UIs for managing something as complex as a music collection.

>>58846544
The core fb2k is very simple. I wouldn't use it without plugins.
My setup looks very close to Gayadeque, but it requires some plugins and config. Faces is one of the plugins I use and my setup looks something like this.
https://i.imgur.com/yq9RSaU.png

You can do almost anythin with foobar2k but it requires some serious tweaking and several plugins.
But i cna be tedious to configure everything so there are several things avout my stup I'm not happy with.
But there are also things in my setup which I've not seen any other player allows me to configure. And that has kept me from switching.

I'd love to have something that just work's out of the box sometimes.

So I'll give Guayadeque a try for my linux box.

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It just werks

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Foobar.

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>>58846077
dude just B urself

>>58846544
>Guayadeque helped me fix the metadata (especially album artist and genre) on my music and filter it based on a number of different criteria simultaneously
You can easily do this with foobar

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master race

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Yes, we need atleast one of that person.

>>58850765
I had a friend that didn't wanted to use Spotify on Macbook because the application is black.

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I've been using this foobar setup for three years now. So slick.

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Cantata is where it's at. No contest.

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>>58846077
First time I've heard of it. How is it compared to other fully featured GUI-based Linux music players? I'm currently using Clementine myself.

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I don't think so tim

>>58846077
That's not Musicbee. Shit helped me get 50GBs of a clusterfuck music library organized. With that done, I just use Rhythmbox on Fedora because it just works and the Soundcloud option is pretty decent.

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musicbee too based

shit ton of more features than foobar, looks better, tons of config options, easier to config.

>>58851412
Why are you posting these on random threads?

>>58852063
Is that a concept? If it's a theme, what is it? Looks like a UWP app.

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Foobar

>>58852135
It's one of the MusicBee Windows theme dark red skin, it already comes with the program

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>>58852135
It's probably one of the skins included with MusicBee

WTF? I lov GNU/Linux now.

Everything on Linux is so bad in comparison to foobar.

>>58852540
Spoke too soon.

> Supported File Types
>mp3, ogg, oga, flac, m4a, m4b ,mp4, m4p, aac, ape, aif, mpc, wv, tta, wav, wma

Does it seriously not support .opus? In the year 2017?

>>58846077
>postulating an initial open ended question then changing the question to one that seeks validation for your own opinionated answer to the initial question disregarding that the initial question is open ended and has no definitive correct answer

>>58852139
botnet

>>58852582
GNU/Linux*

>>58846077
That's a funny way of spelling Musicbee

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>>58846544
>tfw fb2k is too simple for my needs

>>58850758
>having to install a bunch of random plugins to obtain basic music player functionality

>>58850995
That's a legitimate reason. Desktop applications that don't obey desktop themes should be dragged out back and shot

>>58852063
That UI looks awful for building playlists which get more complicated than choosing a particular artist or album.

>>58851111
Can you share it?

>>58852582
Except that's wrong. No matter how many addons you install, fb2k will always be an ugly piece of shit.

Option A: Music player with all the functionality I want out of the box that does a good job of utilizing my desktop theme.

Option B: A nearly featureless music player where I have to experiment with an endless array of plugins to kind of get things the way I want and it completely ignores my desktop theme. No matter how I customize thhe appearance, it will always look like it came from the 90's

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>>58846077
Everything else is useless

>>58852964
So how would you use that to build a playlist that which consists of only "Chill" music created after 1990, minus one or two artists, and then filtered to only songs I have personally rated 4 or 5 stars?

>>58852961
>Ugly piece of shit.
Says the GNU/Linux user? What the hell rofl.

>Foobar
>featureless
top kek you make me laugh retard

>>58852964
>sorting your music by artist instead of album artist
u wat m8?

>>58852983
>featureless
Name all the useful features it has out of the box without plugins installed.

>says the GNU/Linux user
See the OP pic? Notice how the application looks beautiful and nicely utilizes the KDE desktop theme? Now fuck off retard.

>>58853008
The fact it is so customizable is one of its best features. None other player allows for such deep customization and option to make the program do exactly what you want.

No idea why you are so upset about it tho. I tried Guagemole for day and it was really bad, in fact there's not 1 GNU/Linux music player that does everything my Windows foobar installation did. I even stopped listening to music locally and just streaming shit because the players were all so rigid, unsupported, dead, abandoned, or locked to creator's vision.

Just my two cents.

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>>58852540
Here's another player - Deadbeaf.

>>58851371
It sucks. Not Clementine is awesome.

>>58852582
Please refer to:
>>58853075

>>58853041
>stopped listening to music locally and just streaming
I did this too for awhile, but eventually (about 3 days ago) I went back to Guayadeque. The reason why is because services like Spotify and Google Play Music simply do not have an advanced enough UI for dynamic playlist generation. You can either have them scrobble for you, or you can painstakingly select everything by hand. Neither of those is an acceptable option. The end result was that I ended up just listening to full albums all the time, which is not my preferred listening style most of the time.

Even when I find the occasional rare ocurrence where someone has made fb2k appeare to be somewhat functional, it still looks bad. see >>58846918
While I can acknowledge that looks aren't really important, I wiill pick the more aesthetic application if it lets me do everything I want to do.

>>58853075
>Deadbeaf
>Last update nearly year ago

wev

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>>58846077
mpd + ncmpcpp

>>58853094
What are you trying to say?

>>58846077

The best is Herrie:

https://github.com/EdSchouten/herrie

>>58853106
Does it support sorting by "Album Artist" and can you generate dynamic playlists in a fashion similar to either of these pictures >>58846077
>>58846180

>>58853146
You should add a screenshot to your README

I'm super austistic with the way I sort and listen to my music collection.

Been using WMP 11 for ages (even on Windows 10). Been looking for a better media player. I like MusicBee a lot, but is there any way to force a specific image size for the album art on the now playing screen?

Alternatively, I know Foobar2k is basically the best in regards to functionality, and that you can do just about anything with it. I just hate how it looks. Is there a skin that groups albums together with album art? And, like WMP and MusicBee, have a "now playing" screen with specified size for album art?

>>58846382
configurable doesn't imply good and good doesn't imply configurable.

these are NEET """poweruser""" memes.

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>>58852912
what do you mean? it's pretty easy you just right click on an album or artist and add a song to the playlist. I chose an album art viewer but you can change it anything else like for example on one on the right

>>58853156
I don't use that filter so i haven't looked into it. mpd is just the daemon while ncmpcpp is the frontend of which there are many other candidates which you can find on either archwiki or installgentoo.wiki.

You can even use mpd to stream to external sources (such as your phone or laptop). that is why i find mpd to be the superior "music player"

>>58853239
>other candidates which you can find on either archwiki or installgentoo.wiki.
You forgot to tell the gentleman you are replying that nearly all of the frontends for mpd are dead/abandonware and you are left with 1-2 choices

>>58853254
Which i understand completely. ncmpcpp has everything. Sorting by album artist isn't default but it's possible.

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mpd+ncmpcpp

>>58846077
YouTube

>>58853114
Seriously. There's nothing wrong with it and the project isn't abandoned.
https://github.com/Alexey-Yakovenko/deadbeef

>>58853230
Again, it looks terrible for doing anything other than selecting individual artists or albums. Do you see >>58846077
and >>58846180

Notice how in both of those screenshots the user is able to build a complex playlist quickly and easily by specifying multiple other parameters other than just artist or album?

>>58853239
I've used MPD for streaming before and it's fucking useless. I would rather just set up a subsonic server or carry around all my music on my phone. There isn't a single MPD client for a mobile device I'm aware of which can cache songs for offline playback. And last time I checked, it only supported streaming over shitty protocols like HTTP.

>>58852981
>"Chill" music created after 1990
Make a playlist - ncmpcpp has search filters
>minus one or two artists
Make a playlist - ncmpcpp has search filters
>and then filtered to only songs I have personally rated 4 or 5 stars?
Don't be a faggot

>>58853265
>ncmpcpp has everything
Can it do the things that were asked in >>58853156
Specifically:
>can you generate dynamic playlists in a fashion similar to either of these pictures

>>58853391
>Make a playlist
That's literally what I was doing in that screenshot. Also, regular playlists are static and would need to be updated every time I add new music to my collection. Dynamic playlists always stay up to date with my music collection based on the criteria I have set.

So what you are saying is that it only provides the most simplistic playlist generation possible and sucks for anyone with a large music library. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

>>58853392
I just dump every song I want to hear in the queue, save that queue as a playlist, then clear the queue and add a different playlist I want to hear. It's minimal and it servers my needs, while also looking good too.

>>58853421
by all means, enjoy your resource hogging media player

just leaving this here for educational purposes
https://pkgbuild.com/~jelle/ncmpcpp/

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>>58846077
gmusicbrowser

Awesome for big collections and basically supports arbitrary layouts.

>>58853484
Yes, but the process for selecting every song I want to listen to with that UI is the part I am complaining about. It simply sucks at that for anyone with a large music library who wants to listen to do something more complex than play a particular genre/album/artist.

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>>58853421
Also, i manage just fine w/o those autistic filters.

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Best music player.

>>58853505
Does it support album artist? Sorting by artist is pleb tier.

>>58853492
>resource hogging
I have an ancient 2.4GHz desktop with 4GB DDR2 RAM. I have literally never had a problem with resource consumption.

>>58853520
Well I am very happy for you that you manage to get by with such simplistic tools, that doesn't mean that it is not advantagous to have more powerful tools. What do you want? A gold star?

>>58853525
>marketplace
>social
>phone

>>58852981
http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Playlists
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=116113
>>58852995
My tags are fucking dogshit, I should fix that.

>>58853506
I select by album, and I know which album(s) I want to listen to. It's not complicated, and you should know what albums/artists/genres you have on your pc. And if you hear songs off an album you don't want to listen to, just remove them off the queue and overwrite your playlist.

>>58853555
>Does it support album artist? Sorting by artist is pleb tier.

Its the same fuckin' thing ya dumb knob.

>>58853556
All of them dead by now

>>58853555
You DO know it has a file browser and tag editor too, right?

No one but you uses filters like that, dude

>>58853555
>Does it support album artist? Sorting by artist is pleb tier.
Are you tech illiterate? Who would ask a question like this.

>>58853570
Okay so you have extremely simplistic musical preferences then. That doesn't mean the music player you are using doesn't suck for people who don't have extremely simplistic preferences for how they go about listening to music. I don't want to simply listen to an album most of the time. You are either literally retarded or trolling at this point. I am going to disengage.

>>58853575
No it isn't you fucking retard. Artist sometimes contains contributing artists as well. Meaning that within a non-compilation non-soundtrack single album, you can have multiple artists. With album artist, every track on the album has the same value. Sure you can edit your songs to force the artist field to act as the album artist field, but that is literal retard tier.

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>>58853555
You can add any number of the tabs in the picture to any filter.

>>58853575
It isn't

>>58853616
Do you know what id3 tags are
why are you even asking "does it support album artist"

no wonder Foobar2000 was too much of a pgoram for you, lol.

>>58853613
are you musically illiterate? sorting by artist and sorting by album artist are very different and only a retard would prefer artist over album artist.

>>58853616
Everyone has different use cases, therefore use the player that best suits your needs. I can praise ncmpcpp all day long, but in the end, it depends on whether or not it suits the end users needs.

>>58853647
Yeah you are tech illiterate, no wonder you shill for a simplistic program like Guagamole then. The irony of your cognitive dissonance just made my day. Like from a Pynchon novel.

>>58853657
If you had ever tried even a handful of different music players you would see that most do not let you pick and choose between all the available tags to display. Many of them only allow you to display a subset of them. Many music players will force the users to sort their music collection by the "artist" tag and not the "album artist" tag. Are you brain damaged?

>>58850758
>not using beets to tag your music collection

>>58853230
are you talking about choosing albums/songs by genre or something? I'm pretty sure there are options for that in musicbee if you ever used the program. There is also an auto-dj mode to select songs similiar to eachother

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>>58850765
Obvious shill is obvious

>>58853707
>are you talking about choosing albums/songs by genre or something? I'm pretty sure there are options for that in musicbee if you ever used the program. There is also an auto-dj mode to select songs similiar to eachother
Niether of those is what I am asking about. I am specifically asking about the ability to filter your music collection by multiple criteria at a time like in the following screenshots: >>58846077
>>58846180

>>58853723
sounds autistic as fuck to me honestly

>>58850765
I pirate your service everyday. Fuck you, "swede" fags

>>58853747
>wanting to build good playlists with minimal effort is autistic
>manually selecting individual albums to pick the songs I want isn't autistic
Fuck off you pleb

>>58853747
With a good music player, it should get out of your way as much as possible. With dynamic playlists, you can set up your playlists by whatever criteria you want, and then those playlists will automatically include new content added to your library without needing to manually edit the playlist. I'm not sure why you would want to have to constantly mess with playlists and selecting specific artists/albums to listen to when you can just have a handful of decent dynamic playlists and never have to fuck with that nonsense again.

>>58850765
This desu
>>58853711
What's wrong with shilling it, it's a good service
>>58852894
>>58850995
Is he homosexual for wanting the all pure white look on all his apple products?

>>58853771
just add your fav songs to a playlist when you hear them and never worry about it again desu

>>58853816
some songs might meet those dynamics but that doesn't mean i will like them

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>>58853771
>>58853816
it looks like musicbee can do it anyway by the way

>>58853833
>some songs might meet those dynamics but that doesn't mean i will like them
Why would your selection criteria include songs you don't like? It should have something like "Songs with Rating >= 3 stars" or something like that as part of your selection criteria. Then the only possible way a song would get played is if you had explicitly given it a good rating.

>>58853887
lmao'ing at this clunky autoplaylist, foobar reigns superior (again)

>>58853616
>Artist sometimes contains contributing artists as well.

Only if people tag shit like fuckin' dumbasses.

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iTunes is objectively the best music player

>>58853616
>Artist sometimes contains contributing artists as well.

Aka
>How do I edit ID tags, guise!? Its so hard!

>>58853973
cuckboy mad at his cuckplayer being inferior

>>58853974
That's the way it's supposed to be you retard. That's why there are both "artist" and "album artist" tags. Having both is useful, but as a primary sorting mechanism, "album artist" is far superior.

i fell for the mpd+ncmpcpp meme. i haven't bothered ricing it that much.

>>58853999
nig you have garbage tier ui, i can just literally write my autoplaylist in few seconds to my top bar and blam wham

>>58853692
Learn how to edit ID tags, dipshit. It isn't even hard.

>>58854035
I do edit my tags. Are you retarded? That has nothing to do with the problem. The problem is the UI on various music players and what tags they let you view.

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>>58854027
tfw you use an elementary school tier barebones music player

>>58854045
>being this autistic
Cry harder, please.

>>58854114
>trying this hard to defend bad music players with limited UIs

>>58854093
honestly I'd settle for Musicbee or that MediaMonkey player if they had Linux/GNU versions I'm so fucking fed up with the players I have to choose from

>>58854138
By the looks of things, MusicBee is just a Guayadeque clone.

>>58854123
>limited UIs
Right, because everyone should cater to your special snowflake requests.

>>58854138
Yeah, I wish the guy would just open source MusicBee already honestly but he's kind of a strange dude.

>>58854161
Allowing the user to configure which tags are visible is not a "special snowflake" request. In fact, it is a very general request. Pretty much the exact opposite. All good software developers work with broad generic solutions whenever possible.

>>58854035
>ID tags
>It isn't even hard.
ID3v2 tags are the fucking hardest thing in the world. It's a fucking collection of fucking stupid and reading the specifications is pretty fucking useless as fucking no one else is using it.

Like, you can embed images in music files and one of the image options you have is "A bright coloured fish". In case you need to include an image of a bright coloured fish in addition to the front cover art, back cover art, media, picture of the conductor, picture of where the music was recorded, picture what the band looks like while playing the song and the publisher's logo.

And if you have a genre, you can write your genre as any sort of a string. But! You can also specify the genre as an integer! If you choose to use an integer, you then need to enumerate all sorts of genres to know what genre "59" means. If you are wondering, genre integer 59 is "gangsta".

Then there's shit like the fucking popularimeter. Fucking popularimeter. They included a fucking tag where you can enter a rating for a song, where rating of 1 is absolute dogshit and a rating of 255 is the best. But every time you give a rating to a song, you need to save the user's email address who is giving the rating, rating between 1 and 255 and and if you truly want, a playback counter as to how many times the user has listened to this song.

However, there is absolutely no standard as to how the popularimeter values should be translated in user interfaces when using a five-star rating system, star system with half-starts, numeric values, etc. Software designers just use whatever they want.

And then there's the fact that the ID3v2 specifications have a separate play counter tag, meaning that you can either store play counts in the popularimeter tag, where it is optional, or use a separate tag that is specifically designed for play counting.

ID3v2 specs are dumb.

>>58854237
>ID3v2 tags are the fucking hardest thing in the world.

Stopped reading there. You're literally retarded and completely tech illiterate.

>>58854237
Haha.

hahahahaha

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Winamp 2.95
DFX Audio Enhancer

DFX is the shit and can make a shit desktop speaker setup like say a logitech 2.1 sound significantly better than it actually is.

t.klipsche promedia 2.1's sounds good as fuck on the cheap.

>>58854273
>I covered my ears and started saying "la la la I can't hear you" as soon as I heard your base assertion because I was afraid that your supporting statements might shatter my world view

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>>58854237
Also, another thing to point about ID3v2 tags: some of the things that people think about ID3v2 tags are just absolute specification rape by various software developers.

Many people have probably used software in the past that let them assign an album artist to a song in addition to an artist. iTunes is one example of one. However, while the artist property uses TPE1, designer to store "Lead artist(s)/Lead performer(s)/Soloist(s)/Performing group", album artist values almost always use TPE2, which is specified to be the name of the "Band/Orchestra/Accompaniment".

Lots of people have probably also seen a big text box in their editors that allow them to set an arbitrary comment about the file. Well that's also fucking wrong! A music file may contain 0, 1, 17 or 9103 different comment frames. And instead of just being a long string of text, each comment should include a language code (what language is the comment written in), description (what information does the comment convey) and the actual text value. However, many software (like iTunes), just show you the first comment field they find and let you only edit the text portion, not the language and content description. So you may as well ignore those things, since the user has probably not even seen them, let alone edited them.

>>58854455
You are absolutely retarded as evidenced by your example using a fucking iTunes.

You could use foobar and edit them to your liking :)

>>58854488
>any year
>using Windows software

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>>58854488
I haven't touched Foobar in like 5 years, much like Windows. However, is this a screenshot of the property editor? If so, it's doing the same exact thing as iTunes.

Why is there an album artist field? No such thing in the ID3v2 specifications.

Where can you set the language code for the comment field? Only thing I see is the comment value itself. Also, there's no comment description.

>>58854527
You can literally name any of the fields to your liking or delete them or convert any of them to a name of your liking.

Stop being so retarded lmao

>>58854545
That doesn't mean that Foobar is actually using the ID3v2 specification.

Also, renaming fields to your liking? I imagine that solution just makes Foobar use TXXX frames instead with user-defined descriptions and values, which just make any sort of information absolutely non-portable.

Sup, /g/, what player can play a single .mka file with chapters?

>>58854603
mpc-hc

Foobar2k because it can play from compressed albums, and since I've gotten used to it I have half my albums still compressed and can't be bothered to uncompress them for other players.
I really wish that there was a linux player with this feature.

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>So few people using the correct music player
>they dont organize their music by folders.

>>58853171

It's not mine, bruh.

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i use this and fuck who think using mediaplayer in a fuckin terminal.

>>58853711
It's literally the first image when you google spotify you retard.

>>58856226
You realize that there are compression algorithms that exist specifically for music, right? How fucking tiny is your hard drive anon?

>>58861204
It's not space, it's that I'm fucking lazy and don't want to unzip 500 albums

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>>58846077
Musicbee is life

>>58862080
What theme is this?

>>58862093
For musicbee or windows?

>>58862153
Both

>>58862169
MB is asylum white with my windows adjusted to look like winamp (rip). The windows theme is Case VS by Maximhuz.

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currently using cmus and i really enjoy it. no bloat.

If you have separate botnet partition/hard drive, use Spotify.
It's pretty comfy, especially if you're into classical music.
On free as in freedom environment, torrent and mpv are simplest and comfiest.

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I wanted to use MusicBee but I couldn't figure out how to make it split my library by the folders I use, and it all just mashed together.

Went back to foobar and tried making an Album grid like in MusicBee, but apperantly the only plug-in that work only uses default UI which looks like ass. Oh well, I like it so far.