/nuclear/

We don't need it at the moment. 99% of our electricity is green.

>>58835259
>Why isn't your region using nuclear power as it's main electrical energy source?
but it is

>The Koreans do it cheap and quick, and so can you.
samsung may be cheap and quick, but prepare for meltdowns mang

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But it does

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Note the XP

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>>58835320
ayy

because mafia, camorra, ndrangheta, berlusconi, etc

that's also because we are still going with adsl

>>58835259
i live in france

>>58835350
I'm so sorry

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>>58835343
kiss the ring, cuck

>>58835388
Fuck off, mobster

>>58835388
>the ring
yes, forgot about Vaticano, that's why we need to rush to Switzerland to get medical care and ask France for energy.

There's a nuclear power plant like an hour from here, I'm pretty sure it's where my power comes from

>>58835383
for what?

Non government influence has caused a non nuclear program. It suxs..failing to see the future of nuclear power. Its a no brainer.

>>58835259
We have environmentalists that are somehow convinced it's more worth it to use solar freaking roadways.

>>58835329
>That subtle /g/ page

10/10

>>58835338
>tfw wynne will destroy our glorious power
>tfw o'leary will save us

>>58835259
I would really really like to have nuclear power since we buy 30% of our power from another nation (wich uses nuclear sadly) but I cannot trust for shit my government on planning and manitence of it

>>58835259
Hippie faggots won't allow it because muh environment.

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>>58835259
Because in my country earthquakes are a very common occurrence.

Also my region had the world's largest instrumentally recorded earthquake so i don't think it would be very viable.

shake it bby

>>58835717
>implying new nuclear reactors aren't the cleanest power available

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>cheap and quick
top fucking kek

the company behind this mess was french though

>>58835412
Since when Lombardia is in switzerland?

>>58835707

>tfw the lesbian has raped my wallet and is allowed to get away with it
>tfw angry after years of mcguilty then this.

Honeslty hope she kills herself out of guilt at some point. Should hold a parade in the streets after.

>>58835748
Hippies think cities should be powered by wind and solar despite how difficult it is to get a lot of power from them.

>>58835259
Wat do with the waste?

>>58835822
Bury it in the outback

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>>58835259
>Cheap, quick
>Nuclear power

Choose one
Pic related

>>58835476
>subtle

>>58835854
Yes, an ancient soviet power plant is a perfect example of why we shouldn't use nuclear power today.

>>58835854
That nuclear facility was operated by retarded monkeys and was not used to produce electricity.
You are retarded just like the faggots who melted the reactor.

>>58835259
It is though....

My country is using nuclear. And hydro. We're actually trying to get more nuclear power.

>>58835874
Problem is that many nuclear plants are ancient and fucking unsafe

>>58835881
>That nuclear facility was operated by retarded monkeys
Wrong
and was not used to produce electricity.
Absolutely wrong, you don't know shit.

>>58835259
>Implying it's not.

I live 30 minutes from a nuclear reactor, and have a massive dam within a couple hours as well, and a wind farm less than 3 hours away.

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>>58835874
Those darn soviets.
What about these guys?

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Fucking hippies
We even built one, but our retarded government gave in to the """green""" hippies and shut it down before it was even turned on
We should send all of them to gulag

>>58835911
Which is exactly why we should be upgrading them and building modern ones. Hell new generation nuclear plants can use waste from old ones as fuel, it seems stupid to not do this when the shit's currently just sitting on site waiting for something to happen to it.

>>58835430
For all those renaults and peugeots..

>>58835881
>That nuclear facility was operated by retarded monkeys and was not used to produce electricity.
It was used to generate electricity and it did that just fine until it was shut down in 2000 because shit kept breaking down because of horrible engineering
It was run by idiots, but what caused the disaster was the shit design
Same with fukushima

>>58835874

RBMK, the ones used in chernobyl, are trash.
There's literally nothing wrong with later VVER designs

>>58835937
Again, the thing's ancient. Construction started on it 50 years ago.

>>58835259

the CANDU reactor is still the best

>>58835938
You can save money by waiting for them to die from their vegan diets.

>>58835808
not to mention how noisy wind power is and how many birds it kills

>>58835742
la wea fome wn qlo aasjksakh

>>58835993
>how many birds it kills
Windows kill far more birds

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>>58835881
Were these guys retarded too?

Is geothermal energy a meme?

>>58835993
Bladeless window power is a thing now.

>>58836014
and how expensive is it? still doesn't change the inefficiency of wind in general.

>>58836001
The people that own it and refused to listen to the engineers that were saying it wont survive a big earthquake are retarded

>>58835996
I don't get it.

>>58836001
Somewhat, yes. They should've prepared for a tsunami, those are not uncommon in that region.

But Fukushima went pretty well, all things considered. Shit hit the fan as hard as it could yet nobody died and only a small area was contaminated. Also radiation levels dropped down fairly quickly, most of the surrounding area is currently habitable.

>>58835911
>wrong
No it's not, tsernobyl meltdown occurred because it was running test and there was no trained supervisor for that test.

So it indeed was operated by retarded monkeys during meltdown.

>>58836032
40% cheaper than traditional turbines.

>>58836070
Radiation levels recently started spiking

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Hippies are luddites but they know how to make the news

>>58836259
>tfw you have to be a hippie to join the mud orgie on the nuclear waste barrels.

Fukishima happened one week before my country was going to vote for or against nuclear power, you can guess which was chosen

>>58835276
everyone knows that electricity is yellow, not green.

>>58835455
Show me the legitimate environmentalist campaign that is lobbying for solar roadways, or are you believing alternative facts again, Anon?

>>58836259
WHAT'S IN THE BARRELS

>>58836297
What I really want, is any single one of them to draw what they think a nuclear reactor looks like

>And here as you can see is the toxic waste hurling room. In this room they bring in 10,000 people every day and cover them in toxic waste. Dunno how you can get power from such a thing, or really anything else I just kept saying "toxic waste" so I can get on the news

>>58835808

Actually it has more to do with the difficulty of policing and protecting nuclear fuel. USA has a lot of domestic terrorism from white trash as well as threats from sand niggers and beaner narco lords. God fearing white America is under siege, anon!

>>58836340
My favorite's when they point at the water vapor coming from the cooling towers and cry about the pollution

>>58836364
Stop shadowboxing against shit-tier phantoms, Anon.

>>58836340
the news is never meant to inform the sheaple who watch that stuff.

>>58835259
>tfw you mom is a NIMBY because of three mile island
Feels bad, I live in Pennsylvania

>>58836340
Toxic waste is a misnomer

It's just mildly radioactive and if you melt it down into glass it isn't even toxic

>>58836308
But it's blue?

>>58835259
>Why isn't your region using nuclear power as it's main electrical energy source?

Because spooky radiation and muh chernobyl

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>>58836431
>>58836411
Point is that people will start to think there is some way for you to come into contact with the waste like they just leave it in some public place

there have been nuclear accidents but hippies are making it look like they're just dumping it on people for fun. Same shit happens with GMO protests and anything else hippies protest really. hippies are 1000 times worse than any supposed evil corporate fatcat they try to target because they come up with much worse ideas about how they treat people

alternative is that your energy bill each month would be higher and then it would be "nah fuck that brah it's the corporations just charging more". you might as well hold up a sign that says muh chilluns

I live in the US and my state already derives most of it's power from it's two Nuclear reactors.

>>58836364
I thought those are cloud factories!

>>58836308

You mean lightning bolt electricity? That stuff is dangerous... You should really switch to leaf energy as it's much safer and better for the environment.

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99.999999% coal

>>58836662
actually it's """coal""" waste

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>>58835963
>did that just fine until it was shut down in 2000

Because due to my country's geography, hydroelectric plants are more convenient and efficient.

>>58836703
Chernobyl was still functional after the disaster and continued to function.

>>58836724
>murdering thousands of innocent fish
"''"""green""""""

>>58836757
Not only that, but the fish have CHILLUNS

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Is Thorium a meme

>>58836502
Funny you post that image, the Yucca mountain facility actually got killed off in a political squabble

God bless America

>>58836838
yes huge meme

>>58836840
fucking native dindus

>>58836840
I thought it was because they discovered a previously unknown fault

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>>58835259
ah but we do.

just not really for the public

>>58836745
Well I'll be damned, you're right. I'd have thought the place as a whole was a total loss, considering all the contamination and the exclusion zone.

Our country was supposed to hold a referendum for approval of nuclear energy and building of like 20 reactors. Then like 1 month before the vote fukushima happened

>>58836070
>media blackout
>problem solved

>>58835259
The green party is closing down all nuclear power and going over to wind power and water power and burning oil,tires, for power when there's not enough water and the no wind or to much wind

Live in Miami, not sure. I think there is a nuclear power plant fairly close, people go around there to fish.

>>58835259
we produce 85% of our electricity with 13% of the nuclear reactors in the world and sell electricity it to the rest of the continent.
Not too hard to guess the country.

>>58837412
New Algeria?

>>58837437
I suppose you’re one of the deluded people from the English-speaking Forth Reich?

>>58836838
Even though lftr are more complex to run I think it is still a viable option. The availability of fuel alone is a good reason to further develop this technology.

>>58837412
baguette

>>58835259
Because coal is abundant af where I live. My people dont generally give 2 fucks about the enviroment considering global warming was just a master scheme devised by al gore to try to prevent bush from winning. Luckily his plan failed, but now the moron populous took him seriously and thinks that it's real.

>>58835259
STANDING

>>58835259
Because we have dams. Some of our dams were even used to power plutonium production for the bomb in WWII.

>>58836334
lube

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>>58835259
>Living near hinkley point C, UK.
>Worried the government are gonna wave the Chinese contractors through the red tape with a nod and a wink to secure more international business.
>Looking forward to a 20% rise in energy costs.
>For the entire county.
>Across multiple decades.
>Future's so bright we had to put up radiation shielding.
Why didn't we wait for thorium?

>>58835302
>samsung may be cheap and quick, but prepare for meltdowns mang
modern reactor designs don't melt down. they're designed to avoid such problems as chernobyl and fukushima (an older design).

>>58835276
>Coal
>Green

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but it does

>>58835822
Gen4 reactor

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>>58835276
you must be a swede

>>58836662
Poland?

>>58839332
>The USA will never be this efficient

Why live

Edward Teller was absurdly pro-nuclear, and in a pro-nuclear/anti-nuclear debate even he admitted that nuclear power plants were only safe long term if they were built far beneath the earth's surface

you're basically gambling with the biological safety of the earth for a few thousand/million years unless you really trust Millennials to be good engineers, train good engineers, and maintain a environmental disaster-proof infrastructure

seeing as how we can't even trust millennials to support decent web infrastructures, I'm fairly certain we're doomed

>>58835259
NUCLEAR WASTE

easy answer and the only answer needed.

>>58839467
>>58839497
>I don't know anything but have an opinion regardless.

>>58839555
>Nuclear waste
>deflects my statement completely


yeah...thought so.

>>58835771
what mess ?

i never thought i would see the day where liberals become anti science and hate technological progression.

>>58839686
people have been hating nuclear power since the 60s

>>58835320
durham region buddy

>>58835742
Wena nido

>>58839825
yep, some hate it so vehemently that they go to extreme lengths such as initiating conspiracies then covering them up poorly so it look like nuclear power is unsafe and trying to hide that fact

>>58839825
yeah i've been slowly realizing liberals only favor science if it agrees with their opinion. just like conservicunts.

honestly, i sorta feel like the green, eco movement has slowly been turning into a religion. living in shitville called CA these like ultra leftist practically worship the sun. i knew this one girl in college who said the sun is pure and brings life. she always basked in the sunlight with very little protection. would always get sunburns. few times i tried telling her that isn't good but she said the sun is "purifying toxins from her body" and the redness is the blessing of the sun.

Austrians voted against nuclear power because nuclear power is evil :(

>>58839994
so how many coal power-plant you guys got instead ?

I don't mind nuclear as long as I don't live within 1500 miles next to one.

Otherwise I'd rather pay an extra 2c per kwh to not get cancer

>>58836001
The plant was deemed unsafe like 15 years before by multiple internal and external teams
TEPCO going muh PR caused this, and such PR fear is thanks to environmentalist retards
>>58836008
No, it's great but hardly anyone has much of it

>>58839994
according to ausfailians so are small breasts

>>58840057
>1500 miles
I have bad news for you

>>58840029
We just import nuclear energy from all the neighbor states that have nuclear plants.

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>>58835259
It does

my country is filled with SJW hippies

"lol nuclear is bad xd"

The country is Denmark btw

>muh windmills
>40% of the energy consumed in Denmark is imported nuclear

>>58835874
if that never happaned where you think we would be now? something far worse could replace it

>>58835476
>subtle

>>58839846
what

Aren't the building costs very high?

Also, how years does it take to build one?

>>58840781
Building costs up front are high, but if you look at life like that you're fucked anyway.

>>58835259
Michiganfag chiming in. Been living off nuclear power all my life. One of our more retarded plants is being shut down because it's old, poorly maintained, and not up to code. When its fuel is depleted we'll dismantle it and build a better one. All those piss ant hippies afraid of nuclear power need to grow a pair. Except for >>58835742 who's got legitimate reason to not use nuclear. Unless you built a series of nuclear helicopters that generated power but would take off in an emergency and hover 40 feet above the ground until an all clear signal was given. Plus you'd have fucking nuclear helicopters and that's some serious national dick waving.

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>>58841344
>Plus you'd have fucking nuclear helicopters and that's some serious national dick waving.
Both the US and Russia tried developing nuclear airplanes and jet engines back in the 50's - 60's. US actually made strives with nuclear ramjets but DOJ backed off because of how scary the thing was if used against them. They feared it was "too provocative" and that it would inspire the Russians to develop their own. Which would have been a bitch to defend against. Which ironically they were, but years behind. I guess regardless it would have motivated the Russians to work harder but then again the nuclear ramjet could have been the original regan star wars, but real, instead of a bluff.

>>58835259

I'm actually doing the NDE on a site that is adding 2 AP1000's. Pretty cool shit.

What do you do with fuel rods after they are spent?

>>58835276
Same

>>58841310
What if renewable energy is cheaper?

>>58835259
people are scared or just don't care

>>58840781
>Aren't the building costs very high?
Yeah, because of the red tape, which limits mass production and standardisation and costs a shit ton of money. It causes less plants to be built, which incentivises old ones to stay operational, which causes them operating like shit, which increases red tape and so on.

>Also, how years does it take to build one?
Unless the government really wants to build one, around a fucking decade.

I mean holy shit, just permanently approve two Gen IV designs and focus on checking if the design is being properly implemented. NRC is pure cancer.

>>58835259
Because we have shitloads of natural gas, which is cheaper.

And fuck Groningen.

>>58836757
I never claimed it was eco-friendly or anything

>>58835259
Because I live in an earthquake prone country. That being said, nuclear power is pretty fucking awesome.

I hope they didn't forget to connect it to the internet. It's the only way to make sure it gets shut down in case of an emergency. If there's an explosion that kills all the local staff operating the atoms, there's nobody to shut it off.

Internet prevents that.

>>58842831
internet makes it hackable

>>58842886
Arrest this backwards oriented naysayer.

>>58842831
i'm pretty sure they have their own network.

>>58839657
we can build reactors that use the waste as fuel

>>58835320
Too bad it'll close in 2019, cant wait for the electric bills to double

>>58835259
>Koreans are the ones to be idolized in the year of our lord 2017
t. north korean communist or elitist south korean cunt. when your northern brethren can afford to feed its own people, maybe then we'll talk about taking either of you seriously.

>>58835259
>Why isn't your region using nuclear power as it's main electrical energy source?
We have hydro here. Deal with it.

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>>58835259
Because the government built a completely functioning power plant in the 70s, and when it was finished and even had the fuel rods on site already, some people decided that they didn't even want an NPP.
A referendum was held, 50.47% of the population voted against it, and that's why it never went online.

>>58835259
Nuclear energy would be great for other applications like space travel. With space travel we can launch the nasty shit into Jupiter or the sun-- because who gives a fuck.

The half-life for have this shit could range anywhere from 100-1000 years depending on the type of source you use.

That means radioactive waste sitting somewhere on this planet, taking up space, and we have to wait up to twice the length of the Roman civilization for it decay.

>>58842831
They come with dead man's switches, if there's nobody around to press buttons regularly, they just shut down automatically.
Not to mention fire alarms and hundreds other safety mechanisms that would trigger in case of an explosion and shut it down.

Fun Facts:
Wind generates more electric power and jobs than nuclear in North America.
There are over 30,000 hydro-electric dams in the U.S. A greater number than if a new dam had been built every day since 1776.

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Chernoble.

>>58835259
>why
fucking hippies and ignorant plebs

>>58843349
And morans like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJWq1FeGpCw

>>58843287
Chernobyl didn't fail because it was nuclear, but because it was run by communists.

>>58843270
delet this

>>58843398
This. They still can't even operate cars intelligently over 30 years later, how the fuck could they be expected to operate a fucking nuclear reactor?

>>58843398
>>58843438
What about
>Windscale fire
>Three Mile island meltdown
>Fukushima

>>58835343
Oppure perché non vogliamo che i nostri figli nascano deformati a causa di un guasto

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>>58835259
Because my country is full of luddite dumb fuck hippies who are proud of the fact we are nuclear free to the extent that we have even banned nuclear powered or armed ships from visiting. We are quite happy to burn coal though. Guess which country.

>>58843495
>Windscale fire
They repeatedly removed safety measures to boost production of materials for bombs. That plant's main purpose was not power generation.
>Three Mile Island
Shit safety system combined with human error.
>Fukushima
Ignored the fact that the plant wasn't equipped to handle natural disasters that eventually caused the famous meltdown.

>>58843495
>>Windscale fire
blame Scots
>>Three Mile island meltdown
Small incident overblown by media.
>>Fukushima
Japs knew the risks of construction at tectonic break, they just happen to be fatalistically stubborn.

>>58835259
Remember that little incident in Japan from a few years ago? The one still leaking radioactive elements into the ocean? Yeah, that's why not.

>>58843390
>>58843349
so fucked with these two sides having removed nuclear from society's view

>>58843586
>core meltdown
>Small incident
dude

>>58843390
Is that a parody?

>>58843593
Read the thread.

>>58843699
Drink some bleach.

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>>58843708
You first, hippie scum.

>>58843586
The Plant withstood the quake. It was the tsunami that caused probs.

>>58835259
Fukushima_Daiichi_Exploding.gif

>>58835430
Morzyny

>>58843736
You deserve to be gassed, you dumb fucking shit stain.

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>>58839380
yes

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>>58844266
no

>>58836101
>first time radiation measured inside vessel
>OH MY GOD IT'S SPIKING
really fires the neurons

>>58843535
NZ?

>>58844476
yea. :(

>>58835259

Because we have a hydroelectric cabal in Ontario where I am that can enjoy giving us $400 monthly bills.

It's such a huge issue that it's starting to make for investigations and a lot of news, not uncommon to for some areas to see electric bills surpass their monthly groceries or even rent now.

It's ridiculous.

>>58843398
it failed because of bureaucratic shit, the engineers were top notch.

>>58836001

Yes, they were. They ignored the requirements of break wall height for a tsunami AND they placed back up generators on stilts that could be washed out by mildly intense water.

>>58844575
Thats not the hydro, it's the wind and solar

The libs couldve built a new CANDU with that money, but they're retarded so no

>>58835329
It's not being used for web surfing or anything else where suitable attack vectors can be exploited by a motivated individual.

In fact it's probably not even connected to the internet at all.

>>58836001
>shitty seawall
>generators located closest to the sea
>no portable generators
>Naoto Kan being retarded and ordering them not to vent explosive gasses
>Naoto Kan now anti-nuclear

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>>58835259
no thanks

>>58844968
>"hey dude the automated machinery is broken and we need to make more nuclear fuel, pass that bucket of uranium"
>"dude is that blue glow normal lmao?"
MADMEN

A bit more pain than he deserved, however

>>58835259
>Why isn't your region using nuclear power as it's main electrical energy source?

But it is.

>>58844575
~50-60% on Ontario's baseline power is nuclear.

>>58839009
>light water
Sure it wont

>>58845014
>spout memes
(you)

>>58835996
>>58839846
>educacion latinoamericana

>>58845028
>be uae
>get reactor
>from Korea
>don't use heavy water
>use plutonium
>not closed loop
>me cesium to stop meltdown
>melts down
>all muh land irradiated
>"baka! They said it'd never melt down!"

>>58845051
And that's why i actively try to avoid any means of interaction with my fellow countrymen.

>>58839332
Sweden is like 50% nuclear.

>>58845114
>plutonium
It's uranium, Brakah doesn't use MOX
>Cesium
cesium is not used for emergency shutdown of reactors
>land irradiated
It has a proper containment and core catcher

Now stop spouting memes you tripfag

>>58845114
Most reactors are light water reactors.

New LWRs have passive safety features that you can't have meltdown even when the support systems are completely shut down and there are no humans to intervene.

The APR-1400 designs being built in UAE are one of such new designs.

Fukushima and Three Mile Island reactors were shit designs from 1960s that can meltdown very easily without correctly operating cooling systems and human monitoring and intervention.

"Muh nature" retards are actually making nuclear disaster more likely by resisting new nuclear reactor builds, prolonging the use of old, unsafe reactors.

The post-2010 schism within Greenpeace was caused by exactly this. The faction that wanted Greenpeace to stop resisting new nuclear build left the organization en masse because the anti-science bullshit from nuclear-resistors.

>>58845051
>no irónicamente

>>58845119
Ay, la hueona.
Ten un poco de humor.

>>58845292
>humor
>chilean humor
50% is regurgitating overused memes from jaidefinichon or another cesspool of shit and the other half is retarded nonsense gibberish like >>58835996.

It's always the same unfunny shit, no exceptions.

>>58845193
When cesium is introduced into a nuclear fission reactor the cesium absorbs the neutrons thus stopping the reaction

Also if the reactors water all boils off then the super hot molten uranium will melt through most anything in its was so containment isn't really admissible

Forgot my phone has auto fill for my trip. Trip is for /qst/ threads

>>58845236
Ya but that doesn't mean they're less safe than heavy water reactors. Also i don't really care about "muh nature" on the other side of the world

>>58835259
I live in Chile and with a 9.0 earthquake around every corner we can't just put a nuclear reactor on our shore.

>>58845459
>When cesium is introduced into a nuclear fission reactor the cesium absorbs the neutrons thus stopping the reaction
You're thinking Boron, Cesium-137 is a waste product from the fission process.

>>58845008
what gets me more is why he wasn't mercy-killed
i mean, can you even imagine a worse way to die?

>>58843077
THANKS KATHLEEN

>>58846298
I've been bamboozled. Oh well better do my research first. But still hw>lw

What kind of safety standards does the DPRK have?

>>58846663
never get yourself into a position where you can't hear the voice of, or bow down to the dear leader

>>58846381
they wanted to monitor him to understand the effects of radiation poisoning.

Hippies.
God I hate them so much.

>>58835937
>comparing three mile island to chernobyl

The amount of radiation released during TMI's leak was roughly equivalent to sitting in front of a TV for 4 or 5 hours. There are still areas surrounding Pripyat that are unsafe for human presence.

>>58839923
I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for 500, Alex.

>>58843617
>>58843495
Can't stress enough that you people actually do your research on Three Mile Island.

The total amount of radiation released was non-significant by all measures. It could have been much worse, but wasn't, and was mostly the result of a whole bunch of user error and design oversight.

>>58844532
The irony of how much more likely you are to get cancer from a coal plant than a nuclear plant never ceases to be funny to me. Kiwis suck, emigrate to somewhere non-Hobbity.

Cause germany is under direct threat of tsunamis and earthquakes and we all saw what happened in japan

>>58835259
nice post.
yes., we're all weebs but lets not hype the japanese tsunami meme too much

I always thought being a nuclear engineer would have been interesting but I wasn't smart enough for college or uni unfortunately

Country being too small that having a nuclear power plant too nearby becomes dangerous. Still we have 23% of electricity coming from nuclear, although we mainly burn coal for power. Later we burn more gas instead.

>>58848695
>continuing to burning coal when coal exhaust is extremely carcinogenic, significantly elevating cancer risk of people who live in the path of the coal exhaust

When will people realize nuclear is a meme? Even after heavy subsidies and government support, nuclear power plants still need to discount the decommission fees and infinite fuel storage fees to be economically viable. After all that, in countries where you can cut all corners possible (e.g. China), new plants are still heavily behind schedule.

The technology is an elegant, inefficient, complicated mess. Until something truly revolutionary happens, it's simply not worth it.

>>58848855
Pro tip: Japan and S. Korea both have built new plants on schedule and on budget.

>inb4 Fukushima

>>58835455
>solar freaking roadways

hahahahaha, oh man, that got a good laugh out of me

solar roadways.. how can people be so retarded?

>>58844968
>>58845008
>>58846381
>>58846788
that image is from an undersea accident that had nothing to do with radiation

>>58848949
source?

im interested

>>58836045
It wasn't the earthquake that caused the meltdown, it was the tsunami from the quake that cause the cooling system to lose power that lead to it

>>58835259
I live in western Washington where we're pretty keen on hydroelectric. Would be cool to have nuclear here though

>>58835259
I find it kind of odd that korea and japan keeps going at nuclear power despite the earthquakes and tsunamis(not like they have a choice) and you have germany cowering like a massive pussy, going "but muh nuclear disaster" even though they don't have any of the same issues.

>>58849008
reverse image search it, it comes up as related to the "byford dolphin diving bell accident"

it makes sense too, that body is way too mangled to be the product of any mere radiation incident, just look at that fucking leg that got sheared off, but it makes sense being part of an incident in which adult males got forcibly shoved through a 24 cm opening

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Romanian nuclear powerplant at Cernavoda

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Just looked into it, turns out I do get nuclear power and this is the plant it comes from

>>58849568
The scenery is beautiful

>>58835276
>Dude wind and solar are the future lmao
>They can only compete with coal though if we basically make coal illegal lmao
>Dude large diesel engines needed for industrial machinery can just be replaced by big batteries lmao
>Dude just throw some solar panels on them too lmao
>Dude legalising weed is the real issue

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>>58835259
:^)

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>>58849595
This place looks pretty neat, looks like they have tours too. I'll have to check it out sometime

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>>58849608
>tfw I thought it would be like 80% hydro

>>58849075
nuclear disasters are unlikely to occur much if at all with newer designs.
The HUGE stigma is that people have this polarization that anything powered by nuclear energy is gonna BOOM like an atom bomb.

>>58845236
>The post-2010 schism within Greenpeace was caused by exactly this. The faction that wanted Greenpeace to stop resisting new nuclear build left the organization en masse because the anti-science bullshit from nuclear-resistors.
I didn't know about this but it is a good thing. The biggest problem with nuclear is the age of the reactors.
I even heard that for years leading up to the Fukushima disaster they were trying to do upgrade work on the reactors and power plant that kept getting blocked by the environmentalists. That turned into a self fulfilling prophecy.

>>58849631
Where do you go for this?

>>58849222
In Byford Dolphin only 1 person was forced through 60cm opening (24 inch) and his body looked nowhere near of the one in the picture, the rest died because of explosive decompression which doesn't have shit to do with the skin.

>>58849651
https://oaspub.epa.gov/powpro/ept_pack.charts
blog to us

>>58849655
didn't say it was that guy in particular, it was probably the one guy who survived the incident who was outside of the bell or something

do you know what incident it actually came from? because I can't think of any nuclear plant fuckup other than chernobyl that could have produced that kind of injury and AFAIK there were no survivors that looked like that

>>58835259
>UAE

"Atoms for Peace" was a fucking mistake

>>58849669
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokaimura_nuclear_accident#In_1999

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>>58849669
I thought hydro would be higher, I live a few blocks from a dam (this one's a smaller private though, they just pump excess power into the grid if they need to) and there's another two or three moderately sized ones within 20 miles

>>58849037
because the walls werent as high as the engineers wanted

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>>58849037

>>58849714
You're dumb.

>>58835854
Bad example.
This was entirely the result of (a chain) of human errors.

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>>58835971
>tfw VVER master race

>>58849697
>and no proper qualification and training requirements appear to have been established to prepare those workers for the job.
No fucking shit things went wrong.

>>58849727
Pretty much all the nuclear disasters come down to human error but considering the danger the engineering should be done as much as possible to eliminate the risk of human error.

Then it comes down to actually giving people proper training.

Always wanted to try this out
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-A-Fusion-Reactor/

>>58849816
and big ass fucking waves

>>58849847
Again human error.
Another plant not far away also got hit with those waves, but it had higher walls.
Fukushima had lower walls by design because of cost savings.

>>58835259
I live in Australia where everyone is retarded and thinks nuclear power is scary. And our gubberment loves coal.

>>58835259
>Why isn't your region using nuclear power as it's main electrical energy source?
Because oil- and gas lobbyists and shills promoting anti-nuclear propaganda pretending to be "environment friendly".

They did the same with solar panels. We had a hearing in our town whether or not to allow construction of a solar power plant. There were people raising their concerns and literally, yes fucking literally, afraid that solar power plants would use up all the sun.

Thank you oil- and gas jews. You have managed to make people think there exist such a thing as "clean" coal while at the same time making people irrationally afraid of windmills, solar cells and nuclear power.

>>58849847
Comes under engineering and human error.

>>58849883
>Fukushima had lower walls by design because of cost savings.
I'm not sure if it was entirely because of that. The plant up the road that had higher walls only did so because the person in charge put his foot down about it.

Fukushima's tsunami wall may have been enough for a magnitude 8 or maybe even 8.5. No one really expected a 9. The real problem was the cooling design that didn't account for the possibility the plant may get flooded by a tsunami that exceeded expectations and the decisions made after the event.

>>58849669
>do you know what incident it actually came from?

As someone with rudimentary experience with this it looks like a burn victim, possibly from a car crash given the missing lower right leg

>>58837412
Nagasaki?

>>58843084
But hydro is bad. It destroys the environment and requires an huge amount of space. It isn't the worst power source, but it is worse than nuclear.

>t. country with 99% of hydro energy

>>58850004
>But hydro is bad. It destroys the environment
No, it alters the environment. Something that happens on its own anyway.

>>58850004
What country?

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Not surprised about where i get a large chunk of my power from, considering i more or less live across the river from a nuclear power plant.

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>>58850004

But nuclear power is the worst power source

>Fukushima will cost more than 188 BILLION US Dollars to clean up
>That's more than Hungary, Chechnyasolvakia, or New Zealand's entire GDP
>This is just a SINGLE plant that didn't even power the whole country

>>58850214
How many times itt does it need to be stated that Fukushima was caused by retards being retards and not by nuclear power having some magical inherent flaw?

>>58850214
That 188 billion is directly funding jobs. More countries should have nuclear disasters.

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>>58850092
>alters
What if someone tried to make Niagara Falls an hydroelectric power plant? Yeah, that's what happened here. "Thr power plant is more important".

>>58850117
Brazil. Maybe it isn't 99% right now, but when (and if?) they finish building Belo Monte the alternative thermo power sources there probably will be shut down.

>>58850214
But what if your country has zero (0) natural hazards? There's literally no reason to use anything but nuclear. And still, Angra was shut down because lol Greenpeace.

>>58850273
>What if someone tried to make Niagara Falls an hydroelectric power plant?
The output of Niagara Falls is already governed. They may as well just stick power generators on it.

I'm all for nuclear power but at the moment it is a disaster in Belgium. Security is subpar and 2 of our main power plants have some kind of damage.

>>58850298
Tihange is a disaster waiting to happen desu

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I was gonna meme about
>Brazil
>nuclear power in this century
but turns out we have 3 nuclear power plants already wtf

>>58850264
make nippon great again

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>>58850510
>nuclear power in the hands of huehues
How terrifying

>>58835455
This.

>>58850524
don't worry, anon, they won't connect the 3rd plant any time soon because muh oil tycoons don't like it!

>>58835742
¿Por qué seguimos creyendo en esa tontera?
El terremoto de 2010 ni hizo pio a la Central de La Reina, por dar un ejemplo. Además nuestra ingeniería es excelente.

>>58835259
Are any of you over 18 ?
Do you want to spend your life in jail and family ruined for a miscalculation ?

>>58850547
>sudaca
>ingeniería excelente
Wna

>>58835276
Germany?

>>58850569
Are you retarded?

Answer is: yes.

>>58839332
So that's why they let the migrants in.

>>58849604
Yea fuck the environment and pollution control! What this guy said!

>>58849847

Those waves only did damage because of human error allowing the break walls to be built too low.

Meanwhile, another plant that was actually hit HARDER than Fukushima

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onagawa_Nuclear_Power_Plant

>The Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant was the closest nuclear power plant to the epicenter of the 11 March 2011 Tōhoku earthquake,[13] less than half the distance of the stricken Fukushima I power plant.[14] The town of Onagawa to the northeast of the plant was largely destroyed by the tsunami[15] which followed the earthquake, but the plant's 14 meter (46-foot) high seawall was tall and robust enough to prevent the power plant from experiencing severe flooding. All safety systems functioned as designed, the reactors automatically shut down without damage, and no reactor damage occurred.

>Following the tsunami two to three hundred homeless residents of the town who lost their homes to the tsunami took refuge in the Onagawa nuclear plant's gymnasium, as the reactor complex was the only safe area in the vicinity to evacuate to, with the reactor operators supplying food and blankets to the needy.

>>58850764

The environment isn't even real, it's a conspiracy to kill American jobs. Trump wasn't wrong here

>>58850827
pretty much

>>58850764
Dude, Chernobyl now is basically a paradise for wildlife.

>>58850910
And oil sands are lifeless wastelands.
Radiation is bad for people, not wildlife.

>>58850919
>Radiation is bad for people, not wildlife.
Well not exactly. It's just that wildlife reclaims an accident site faster than humans after most of the radiation dies down.

>>58850784
Did it actually get hit harder? Sure it was closer but that doesn't account for everything when it comes to tsunami waves.

Definitely, though, the decision to build the wall at 14m height there proved to be correct (and it manager was the one who insisted on that height) but that was only fortuitous, there were places that experienced up to 20m tsunami waves.

Fact of the matter is that once you get to these megathrust quakes, the tsunami wall isn't what you need to be banking on for protection because like you can't predict the size of the next big earthquake, you can't predict height of the tsunami waves it will generate.

>>58849722

>you're

you meant to say <you'r> to truly make your shitpost come across as insulting.

>>58851182
No, it wasn't a shitpost and I meant to spell it properly.

>>58850402
Don't forget about Doel

>>58836840
That's why the image says "would" not will or does.

>>58850547
>2010
try 1960

>>58850624
Germans are the dumbest fucks. They have so much industry requiring shit ton of baseload and they try to move to the renewables, fail, then just build coal out of the wazoo. If there's a nation I'd trust to build nuclear, it would be the fucking Germans and the fucking greens banned it completely.

Also its probably Norway.

>>58845358
We laugh a lot tho..
Do you have a chilean exbf or something?
Because you sound very bitter, fome culiao.

>>58851133
>like you can't predict the size of the next big earthquake, you can't predict height of the tsunami waves it will generate.
That's not entirely true though, we have enough data to statistically approach this problem. If you build enough protection for a one in a million year event you can have a reasonable expectation that the next couple of events will not have an effect. If you have walls strong enough to protect you from a one in a ten million year tsunami event you can be almost certain that over the next 50 years you have an insanely low chance of anything happening.

The problem is most engineering is done with much smaller range (what's the word for that anyways?), such as 1 in a 1000 years or 1 in a 10,000 years.

>>58852094
>We laugh a lot tho..
Of course a community of idiots would laugh at their idiotic nonsense "jokes".
>you sound very bitter, fome culiao.
I'm Chilean but it's okay, i doubt we'll cross paths anyway since i avoid local communities such as forums and the like. Even Argentinians can make better jokes.

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>>58842123
> The SLAM as proposed would carry a payload of many nuclear weapons to be dropped on multiple targets, making the cruise missile into an unmanned bomber. After delivering all its warheads, the missile could then spend weeks flying over populated areas at low altitudes, causing tremendous ground damage with its shock wave. When it finally lost enough power to fly, and crash-landed, the engine would have a good chance of spewing deadly radiation for months to come.

Damn

>>58850827
(You)
There. Now you can leave.

Daily reminder that burning coal releases more radioisotopes than nuclear ever will

>>58843532
fucking faggot