What went wrong?

>>58830832
Chrome

they got high off their own farts

you would think they would implement something to fix memory leaks.

my browser crashes after 3hrs of use.

Nothing, yet.

>>58830846
Or that

>>58830832
Political Correctness

what should I switch to? Opera? Vivaldi?

>>58830832
Nothing. Firefox was never good, and it just stayed that way. Kinda like qBittorrent.

>>58831097
whats wrong with qbittorrent?

>>58831474
Everything

>>58831474
It's like Firefox.

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I still use Firefox, what am I missing out on?

>>58831550
netflix in 4k
streams working in general

>>58831558
I use acestream when possible, but I do have problems with web streams on my old laptop. Will another browser stream better?

>>58831580
yes. just try out chrome, as your secondary browser at least

>>58831503
>>58831527
please clarify

>>58831599
graphic sucks and other weird issue to bypass like audio and so on

>>58831053
Yandex

>>58830832
>have the inventor of the most popular language in the millennial bracket, a literal almost god
>fire him

probabbly this.

>>58831599
>recommending stock chrome in any year, to anybody

i see /g/ is now going down the shitter too

protip: use chromium, ungoogled, or some other fork

I really love firefox, I hope it will get better soon.

>>58833278
its gay and I don't like gay things
and yes this is the extent to which I can qualify my position on the matter

>>58830832
At Mozilla headquarters
>competition is high due to new browsers with high budget behind them like edge and chrome
>we need to act fast
>we need to put everything on the back burner, no more thunderbird, no more firefox OS, it's just Firefox from now
>Should we fix the old code, should we make it as light as possible? NOT NOW!
>CODE RED: gather all the SJW resources you can find, fire most men, gather all the feminazis, BLOAT IT UP and keep fingers crossed

>>58833303
Being popular doesnt mean its good

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>>58833303

Then he went and created this abomination

>>58830832
They forced Eich out

>>58831558
>netflix
nobody gives a shit

>>58833303
They didn't want to lose the gay users, which is stupid because they all use safari.

>>58833913
social justice ruins everything, they even killed off talents, such a scourge...

>>58831550
Nothing. /pol/ shills hate it due to "SJW propaganda". It's a good browser overall. Just remember this site is full of /pol/ autists and that one guy who makes this thread every day.

>>58830852
Honestly I haven't had a firefox crash in over 5 years (on desktop). The last time it crashed was the android version a year ago. I've been using Nightly for a while now and never had a crash.

Terrible developers

>Mozilla staff roll call
"We don't know how to program"
"I don't know jack shit about UI design but lemme tell you, we need more padding, and rounder corners, drop everything and listen to me"
"Actually I know how to program but I hate it even though I actually do get paid for this, make it an addon faggot"
"I also know how to program but I'm too busy making the UI shinier, and all the code for these features is getting in the way. Make addons for me, for free, btw i get paid for this"

IE: mobile firefox is so shit that you need an add on TO SAVE A FUCKING LINK

>>58830852
I think I have had firefox crash 3 times in the last 10 years.

>>58834204
Mobile firefox is the best mobile browser.

>>58833301
The best

>>58834237
>Desktop firefox: you can easily force sync from the toolbar when mozilla's very intelligent auto-syncing doesn't cut it. this is available by default.
>Mobile firefox: Force sync is buried in a menu
>Desktop firefox: Right click, save shit
>mobile firefox: Use app "providers" for handling links or download an addon TO SAVE A FUCKING LINK
>desktop firefox: synced tabs are in a handy menu
>mobile firefox: synced tabs are mashed together with history instead of tabs
>desktop firefox: extensive customization, retains classic UI paradigms we know just work even with lolstralis
>mobile firefox: lolstralis, special snowflake UI because mobile, makes chrome look functional OOTB

>>58831550
A good browser.

>>58834228
That'd be BB10OS's browser

>>58830839
S-shut up!

>>58833902
Which is just yet another Chrome reskin instead of forking Firefox like he should have done.

What's the last good version of Firefox? i'm still on version 42.

>>58835324
Depends on what your criteria for "good" is.

>>58830832
SJWs

either get better than chrome or die

developing for firefox is a fucking chore comparable only to IE10 or safari

>>58835324
3.6.28

>>58835324
The latest version. Or just use Nightly.

>>58830832
Nothing yet... I mean it's not great, but it's still the best choice there is.

I keep a close eye on Vivaldi and Brave, but right now Firefox is the only half decent choice.

everyting. Gecko is shit
XUL is shit

>>58835858
So why is it the best browser? And when do we get something better?

>>58830832
really? everyday this thread? Is OP a fag? if yes, why dont kys OP?

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>>58830832
>What went wrong?

>>58835891
It was the "best" browser around 2004, grandpa. Now it's a rotting, stinking corpse. And when version 57 will come around to remove all those bloated addons, it'll finally come to live again, maybe. Needs a lot of engine switching first though.

>>58835909
>It was the "best" browser around 2004
Yup.
>Now it's a rotting, stinking corpse
Yet still better than the alternatives currently.
>And when version 57 will come around to remove all those bloated addons, it'll finally come to live again, maybe
Yup, that is pretty cool.
>Needs a lot of engine switching first though.
For sure.

>>58835943
>Yet still better than the alternatives currently.
It's tons slower and watching multiple twitch streams makes it freeze

>>58835967
Stable maybe? I have had e10s for months on nightly, no freezing ever here.

Slower? not that I can see.

Why haven't you guys upgraded to Google Ultron

Old API and supporting browser internals made it near impossible to improve performance.

I have been usign pcxFirefox for a week now. The memory leeks seem contained.

What's the deal with Servo and Rust lately on Mozilla? Can someone explain as if I was a literal retard?

>use chrome
>no tab groups
>shitty tab management
>100 tabs and you cant fucking see the tab name
>9001 processes
>botnet
>no smooth scrolling
>doesn't have automatic cleaning of history outside of incognito
>forces my own shitty language instead of english
and you call this browser good?

>>58836223
>and you call this browser good?
yes.

>>58836210
hipsters trying to reinvent the wheel

>>58836223
looks like PEBKAC to me

>>58836231
Looks like you don't know what PEBKAC means, those are problems with Chrome, not anon.

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Stop trying to kill FF, motherfuckers. Let the shills try to do it. If you do it for free you're either too stupid or too dense to realize how you're ruining the internet for generations to come.

>>58836241
>anon can't into setting chrome's UI language
>he can't into sensible tab management and needs to have over 9000s of them open

Looks like anon never heard of bookmarks and needs to leave tabs open despite never ever reading them

>>58830852
works on my machine™

>>58836241
But not a single one of those are "problems". They are opinions on how a browser should work.

Not one of those are a valid complaint to me.

>>58836252
I would love to ruin the internet.

>>58836264
>botnet
>100 tabs and you cant fucking see the tab name
>doesn't have automatic cleaning of history outside of incognito
>forces my own shitty language instead of english

>not a problem

>>58830832
more vague anti firefox threads without substance

sage goes in all the fields

>>5883625
>just use bookmarks
Bookmarks are to be used in addition to tabs, not in place of them, you fucking dumbass.

>>58836264
If the browser's incapable of functioning how the user wants it to then it's a problem with the damned browser.

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>>58836279
you can change your language here, dumbo

>>58836279
>botnet
It's a shitty meme with no meaning. Google is not out to rape your mother.

>100 tabs and you cant fucking see the tab name
I would kill myself before having 100 tabs open.

>doesn't have automatic cleaning of history outside of incognito
Because it's so hard to do manually. Most people are not gonna clear their history every day.

>forces my own shitty language instead of english
Where? I use it in english, always have. Never has it forced me to use it in my shitty language.

>>58836210
>Servo
New processing engine for firefox that supports multithreading better than the old one. So if you have multiple tabs/windows open at the same time they should render faster. It's a part of severial multithreading-friendly optimizations for firefox like WebExtension and Electrolysis.
>Rust
New programming language that aims to be as fast as C but better designed. Currently only used by Mozilla and hipsters

>>58836294
I was talking about the initial install you stupid fuck

>>58836292
>If the browser's incapable of functioning how the user wants it to then it's a problem with the damned browser.
That is the most retarded thing I have ever read.

>>58836311
Google pls

>>58836310
Works 4 me

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>>58830839
>botnet won over freedom.

>>58836326
So every piece of software should take every single user and possible work flows into account when creating the software?

That is how you end up with beyond shitty software.

>>58836346
No one has ever given a shit about freedom. As long as there is enough perceived choice no one is gonna complain.

>>58836355
Opera didn't have a problem with it, neither did Firefox.

>>58836367
>no one
what is /g/?

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>>58836346
>when "freedom" is so cancerously degenerate and destructive you side with devil against it

is nightly better than official, stable one? If it is, why's that so /g/ ?

>>58836379
But now you are changing what you say. Firefox and Opera doesn't account for everything either.

The entire point is that, you not agreeing with design decisions on how it should work does not make the software bad.

>>58830832
SJWs, that is what went wrong.

>>58836381
More like, "what is 10% of /g/" at best.

>>58836423
Nightly is just the daily alpha build of firefox. So yes sometimes it is better, because tweaks and changes that hasn't made it to stable is in there.

That's all.

>>58836428
No I'm not. Firefox and Opera had no issues accommodating both regular and "power users." Chrome is a basic pile of shit.

>>58836450
Chrome is fine for 90% of people. The fact that it is not fine for you, does not make it bad. I don't understand why that is so hard to grasp.

>>58836446
thanks anon, I've installed it few hrs ago, for now I enjoy it, and it isn't part of botnet right?

>>58836470
>Chrome is fine for 90% of people
Which means it's shit for 10% of people.

>>58836491
which is about the market share firecucks has nowadays

>>58836491
And that's okay.

>>58836504
Neat?

>>58836521
Nah

>>58836551
k

>>58836439
bro why do you even think most use Linux instead of Windows, when Windows is a much more stable system?
I will agree that if we go by Stallman's philosophy, then freedom can be kind of extreme, but come on Microsoft can't continue to sell our data for profit

What is this new 'Mozilla are sjws' meme?

>>58833303
>>58833913
The retard made JavaScript, the cancer plaguing the web. Should have been fired for that alone.

>>58836647
ebin

>>58836639
have you looked at their homepage?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/

>>58836660
Most tracking and fingerprinting relies on JavaScript to be activated. Even worst, most of the web can't function without it because stupid ass web devs think JavaScript should be the answer to everything. Fuck JavaScript.

>>58836754
I'm well aware of the issues with JavaScript.

>>58836735
I hadn't but why is any of this bad?

>>58836735
You people make it sound like not all companies do this nowadays. They have to.

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>>58833303
this

Based Brendan Eich

>>58836775
because they rather spend money on giving negros internet access than improve their browser

>>58836830
other companies have more fields of investment than just one product

>>58836864
Is Brave the future then?

>>58836439
more like, what is 10% of 0.01% of all FF user base.

>>58836872
>because they rather spend money on giving negros internet access than improve their browser

Good for them.

>>58836912
yes

doesnt mean I want to use it