/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>58818516
can't be two threads, and this one came too late

>>58818552
?

>>58820307
>>58818516

>>58818469
>>58818469
>>58818469

I'm not really user do distro hopping. Whenever I do, I usually start from scratch. This time I love it how I have my XFCE configured. How do I switch from Manjaro XFCE desktop to Debian but keeping my XFCE to look the same? Do I just put /home in a separate partition and then use that for Debian?

>>58821915
You can get the manjaro themes from github, just save your configs.

Hey dude, the OP from the other thread here.

You are confusing me with someone else and you seem to think I am in some sort of race to create a thread first.

I recognize there was people trolling and creating troll fglt threads but not me. I am cool with someone else making the threads, but can you take the best from the other OP? Like the formatting and the links. People appreciate a less cluttered OP.

And again, I am not that shitty apps guy.

>>58818516
>muh ganoo linux
>mfw I converted to a toybox system a week ago

>>58823066
fuck off

>>58823069
I think you mean GANOO/fuck off

Anyone use Linux on a MacBook pro?

>>58818516

> """Friendly GNU/Linux Thread''''''

> Starts off with rude picture

>>58823201
(You)

>>58823066
Although "GNU/Linux" /ɡəˈnuː slæʃ ˈlJnəks/ is often pronounced without the slash, Stallman recommends explicitly saying the word "slash" or "plus" in order to avoid the mistaken suggestion that the Linux kernel itself is a GNU package,[49] as is the case with GNU Linux-libre.

49. Jeremy Andrews, Interview: Richard Stallman, KernelTrap.org (2 January. 2005)

>>58823550
I wouldn't know since I use a BSD/Linux operating system.

>>58818516
Is that image real?

>>58823615
Is that pronounced BSD Linux or BSD slash Linux?

>>58823550
Thanks

>>58818516
Is there a way to have virtualbox run a virtualized linux os that stores it with files visible to windows? Instead of all of the OS stored as one file.

>>58823615
which distro?
inb4 gentoo

>>58823827
LFS. I'm trying to make an initramfs-only system, so I'm bundling everything in the initramfs and using a custom init script to start a terminal/X/whatever without switching the root FS.

>watching Stallman speak right now

W-what should I ask him?

>>58823874
You are a wizard with the patience of a mountain.

Is there a reason why Firefox always has some black screen flashes on Linux? This doesn't happen on Windows.

>>58824386
Probably driver related

>>58824410

Tested with a NVIDIA card (proprietary drivers) and AMD (open source drivers), no difference.

>>58824386
GNU/Linux*

>>58824386
>This doesn't happen on Windows.
Nobody cares.

I now use GNOME MPV as the player, and here is my profile:

vo=opengl-hq:scale=ewa_lanczossharp-antiring=1:cscale=ewa_lanczossharp-antiring=1:interpolation:tscale=oversample
opengl-shaders="~~/shaders/SSimSuperRes.glsl"
video-sync=display-resample

Should I change

opengl-hq

to

opengl-cb

?

>>58824954
maybe? better read the manpage

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How do I fix this? Every time I close a popup/firefox tab this flickering happens.

I'm using i3.

>>58825150
tried compton?

>>58825258

happens with compton too
why is it so hard to have a decent video experience on linux

>>58825375
You know.. out of sheer curiousity, search for cyberfox, download their linux version for your cpu. Let me know if the issue continues

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>>58825620

same shit

>>58825744
Your drivers are fucked
setup them up correctly

>>58825789
h-how?

>>58825789

>you drivers are fucked

>sudo pacman -S xf86-video-amdgpu mesa-libgl

yeah probably I fucked something up during this step

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This isn't meant to prove a point or anything, but is Linux used in industry outside of servers?
Reason I ask is because I've been using Linux for only about 5 months, because I was under the impression Linux was used for embedded systems development (it's what I want to do when I graduate). However, I'm starting to get the idea that Linux is used for RTOS/the embedded system itself, and not for actual development. I got an FPGA development board from Altera, and the little setup program that maps the pins and does the top level design is only Windows compatible, despite the PLD IDE-thing being Linux compatible. And the FPGA board itself can run Ubuntu desktop, so I was pretty surprised that the setup was only windows compatible. I emailed them about this, and they just told me use Windows computer, bastards.

TL;DR, see first sentence of post.

>>58826463
what

>>58825836
>amd
>xorg
>/etc/X11/10-monitor.conf

>>58826463
Depends on the company, we do our development on Ubuntu/Debian

>>58827732
who is we

>>58826463
The company I do my summer work in is mostly Linux. We built medical software+hardware, where the hardware runs an x86 based board and FPGA, and runs linux. The developers for that all use linux because it frankly just makes sense to target linux from linux.
The apps team uses windows because they need to write apps targeting windows machines in hospitals, but they're smaller and their tasks are far less interesting.

Most web development shops are the same - all the tools target linux servers, so they use linux development machines (or macs, if they're on the creative side, which are posix as well)

(((Kali shit here))) i got it, going to start with Debian or Mint.

>>58829535
Thanks dude!

So, i guess im gonna start with Debian then try Mint. Hope can do it with Kali.
.
.
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another question: it was a mistake to post that screencaptures with my mac address right? i'm fukd? what should i do?

>>58826463
yes of course

What I couldn't believe was in the australian military they still use windows XP for the defence network. Even the top secret secure field computers are windows XP. One time my boss lost a top secret HDD, that was a fun week.

>>58829716
You're welcome. Best of luck.
As I said, I wouldn't worry about the mac addresses.

>>58829750
Ok.

Also i think i fucked my USB (used it for install Kali). it was 8GB, now it is 2,75Gb.

lol

>>58829716
MAC addresses aren't internet related; they just identify your machines inside your local network (router - pc -laptop - phone - etc)

>>58829767
thanks

>>58829764
Chances are whatever you're reading is just reporting the partition size that Kali is installed on. The USB still has all that space, just wipe it and reinitialise a filesystem to get it back to where it was

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Stop installing GNU/Linux.

>>58818516
debian 8 + xface, and neither in firefox (allowed pages to display in their fonts) nor in the filemanager (tried different fonts, atm usingFreeSerif) can display certain UTF-8 symbols, e.g. korean ones.
1) Is FreeSerif lacking korean symbols?
2) Why is that happening in FF?
3) Anybody a suggestion which font to use - I'd prefere Sans ones but they look very weird and wide, but not monospace wide...

I sit down when I pee, there ain't nothin that crazy bout me

>>58829857
Some come here to sit and think, you came to shit and stink.

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>>58829827

>>58829897
Good thing I'm on Windows 7.

>>58829911
Windows is phoning home since XP.

>>58829827
Why? IIS is incomparably bad for serving non-trivial web applications.
The Microsoft C compilers don't even target the embedded systems I need to target on a day to day basis.
I like being able to deploy and manage systems and services from whatever tools I want, and not have to contort powershell into what I need.

Windows is fine if you're a normie writing Word documents in an office environment, but just about anything more serious in tech requires you to start looking at alternatives, unless you're writing C#/Java line of business applications - and I think at that point I'd euthanise myself.

>>58829931
>Windows is fine
No, Windows is malware. Even normies deserve better than that.

>>58829925
I blocked the connections in my hosts file.

>>58829870
I came to shit but only farted, now I sit here broken hearted

>>58823183
Sierra runs like shit for me, so I am putting Mint Serena 18.1 XFCE on my MBPro as we speak. Seems to be running much, much faster and nicer so far.

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>>58829950
When I say fine, I mean acceptably operational. I'm trying to be objective here. I agree that everyone deserves better, but that's generally held to be a matter of opinion.

It's undeniable fact that Windows is, however, wholly inadequate in much of the technology space. I suspect if you drew a line between the two populations on /g/ - windows users and other users, you'd see that mostly windows users are also the ones driving nvidiot vs ayymd shitthreads, and mostly other users are driving sqt/dpt/etc.

/g/ would do well to be split into /gc/ - consumer technology and /gd/ - technology development, approximately. I'm not sure those names explain the difference quite as I intend it to be.

>>58830010
came to piss but sharted too, so I left my underpants in the loo

>>58830125
Heh heh...

;-)

looki looki what I found https://wiki.debian.org/QemuUserEmulation

>>58823183
Linus does, fucking sellout piece of shit.

>>58830258
wow, I suppose is well supported then

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Any ideas on what I did wrong here?
>>58828811

Is it easier or harder to put together a rtorrent + rutorrent setup on gentoo than it is fedora?
Should I even bother? Is there a standalone RSS downloader that I can use with rtorrent?

>>58830300
rtorrent is old outdated garbage.
use deluge

>>58830311
>stalled

>>58830311
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
If it ain't fixed, don't use it

>>58830319
Any improperly configured client will stall

>>58830325
Is deluge the Arch Leenux of torrent clients?

>>58830325
how do you solve this?

>>58830336
Configure your client properly for your connection

>>58830300
>Is there a standalone RSS downloader that I can use with rtorrent?
flexget works golden with transmission-daemon

>>58830325
stalls on stock config bruh, also nothing wrong with transmission.

>>58830349
how? I have transmission for example

>>58830354
stock config is better then your shitty connection bruh

>>58830361
Dont have 5000 connections open if you have a 5mbit connection

>>58830366
I..you..wha, that doesn't even make any sense

>>58830352
I guess learning a new program would be easier than trying to get ah patchy to do anything you want it to do. But what about gentoo?

>>58830386
he probably cant persuade his parents to buy a gigabit router and use a modem not from 2008

>>58830386
The way I unstalled connections was to limit upload, not sure how it works thou

>>58830412
yaas

>>58818516
>Friendly Linux Thread


What do you mean friendly linux thread?
[it becomes quiet] Friendly how? What's friendly about it? You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but friendly how, I mean friendly like It amuse you? It makes you laugh, It's here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean friendly, friendly how? How is linux friendly? You said It's friendly. How the fuck is linux friendly, what the fuck is so friendly about linux? Tell me, tell me what's friendly!

>>58830516
dem damage control

>>58830516
Whats a milk drinker like you doing here!? Go back to you mama.

>>58830535
[everyone laughs] Ya motherfucker! I almost had him, I almost had him. Ya stuttering prick ya. Anon, was he shaking? I wonder about you sometimes, anon. You may fold under blue screening.

>>58830516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_DwZfyXAXI

Since this one seems to be flying over people's heads.

I loled heartily btw.

>>58830573
No more shines, Billy.

>>58830573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRuidIhiqc8
Since this one seems to be flying over people's heads.

I loled heartily btw.

>>58830516
THIS should be a mandatory OP for every /fglt/ from now on.

FlexGet vs Sonarr?

>>58830658
whichever runs

What's a good fully-featured live distro with intel wireless drivers and h264 support out of the box? For gentoo-installing purposes.

>>58830788
sabayon?

>>58830788
literally all of them

>>58830828
Quite a few don't have the Intel wireless and even those that give on and do aren't so keen on sucking MPEG-LA's such without the user checking a box on installation.

>>58830516
NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR FUCKIN SHINEBOX

Friendly reminder that anyone who criticises Gentoo or says systemd is good is a paid red hat shill.

Building a brand new PC specifically for GNU/Linux gaming. Will be using nvidia because many games require it. Will be getting a 1060. Will I be dissapointed with GUI performance? I usually use AMD but couldn't play most of the games on the steam that are AAA because of it.
Also, how is kaby lake performance under GNU/Linux? Is it there yet?

>>58826463

There are a number of CATIA / Solidworks and fluid dynamics stations on my network that do "real work". All redhat.

Gentoo or slackware?

Should I worry about SELinux, AppArmor, Iptables, and whatever else on a default installation of any given distro? Basically, I'm asking: does Linux ship secure?

>>58831875
Yes, Linux ships secure. Problem is, users are retarded.

Extra security means hackers won't even bother, that is why most people use Iptables and some others AppArmor.

>>58831875
Linux mint very well may not be secure. Ubuntu could include spyware in unity for all we know. Everything else is pretty safe.

I'm trying to wrap my head around USE flags. Is there ever a time I don't want to use all of the USE flags for all of the software I have installed? Is there a way to automate updating the USE flags based on additionally emerged softare?

Are there any references for "strategies" in managing USE flags?

>>58831990
Uninstall Gentoo and then install a real distro that you can actually get work done on, like fedora.

>>58831990
great question m8, seconding

>>58832022
fuck off with your buggy shit

>>58832022
(you)

>arch
>upgraded urxvt for shits and giggles
>was using one of the AUR packages with a patch to fix wide glyphs
>urxvt: unable to load base fontset, please specify a valid one using -fn, aborting.
>install unpatched urxvt and it's happy
>probably something wrong with my system
>notice while compiling other aur things that several have failed with

/usr/lib/libharfbuzz.so.0: undefined reference to `FT_Get_Var_Blend_Coordinates'

>look it up
>find out about infinality stuff breaking
>need to remove all that
>I'm tired already from merging my changes to ranger configs after an update broke a quite a bit of old config files
I am not having a good day. Earlier my external drive that's formatted to ext3 and hooked up to a windows computer somehow lost track of a ton of files from private trackers on me (~40 gigs) and I was unable to recover them.

I want to make the switch to Linux on my desktop but.... I just don't know. If something went terribly wrong I'd be screwed. Is it hard to get things set up with Nvida GPU's (GTX 770)?

>>58832044
I'm on arch btw

>>55832022
You would be right if this wasn't an exercise in getting gentoo running and figuring out how it works.

>>58832049
Nothing can go wrong in terms of damaging your hardware or anything. Did you want to dual boot and are worrying about losing your windows data? Don't worry about that either. Nvidia isnt that hard to set up if you don't need open source drivers.

>>58832049
Make a usb drive of the distro of your choice, plug in, reboot, hit motherboard bios key (often f12 or delete) install. It's easy. And you're not "screwed". Just borrow someone elses PC and make a windows 10 install USB, or better yet, make one before you start just incase.

>>58832081
Whenever I live boot the sound doesn't work using my sound card. I also have a USB headset that doesn't completely work. I'll try again and see if it's fixed though.

>>58831990
overusing USE flags can cause problems, customisation is nice and all but just don't go turbo autist with it. if you do use the flags read up on them to ensure they won't cause issues.

>>58831990
You're overthinking it, it's really easy.
If you're using the desktop profile then you can more or less just go with the defaults and not really ever have to think about USE flags at all if you want. It should come out like what you'd get in any binary distro.
USE flags aren't just for cutting out parts of an application they're also used for adding additional stuff, you definitely don't want to enable everything

My advice as a new user is to just make sure you have the obvious things set in your make.conf
like defining VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES, so then the USE flags will automatically be calculated to eliminate support for the things you don't need

Beyond that I would say just scan the list when updating (like when you run emerge -DuvaN world). You don't have to look at all the USE flags, just look at the ones that show up in yellow (those are the use flag changes)
Like I said it's not vital that you do this, but you never know when you might see something like "oh fuck bluetooth? I don't fucking need bluetooths upport" and enable/disable if you want.

>Is there a way to automate updating the USE flags based on additionally emerged softare?
the -U option in emerge. This is usually done when doing a full update and it automatically calculates the USE flags.

>>58832093
Your hardware might be too new. Try Fedora, it has updated software. Arch is also an option but harder to install for a beginner.

>>58832115
I've installed Arch numerous times, probably won't end up installing it on my desktop though. I'll probably give Fedora a try like you said or an Ubuntu flavor

>>58818516
I can't install Arch

Kill me

>>58832142
which step did you fail? maybe just go for manjaro

>>58832156
Manjaro is a hunk of shit.
>>58832142
Don't feel bad, it often confuses new users. I'd recommend using the arch anywhere installer, it works really well and easily while still leaving a minimal install (you only get the packages you choose)

>>58829827
Yes Varg. I need be Viking warrior like u! What install?

>>58832109
>just look at the ones that show up in yellow
Actually you might also want to take a look at the USE flags for any packages that show up with the N (for New dependencies)

But like I said, it's really not a big deal. Only make changes if you know it's what you want, otherwise just let portage do what it wants.

>>58832156
>>58832167

I wish I could use spoilers here

That's the first time I'm using linux, and I can't figure out how to make that -Syu command without getting a fuckton of errors

Thanks anyway

>>58832115
Cool! SO I just started a live Ubuntu usb and was able to get the sound to work no problem, just had to open alsamixer and select the sound card. Maybe I will install Ubuntu this weekend after backing everything up.

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>>58832180
>That's the first time I'm using linux
>Arch
why is people choosing the one of the most unfriendly distros to start with linux?

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>>58832219
because of /g/ meme magic.
We're our own worst enemy.

>>58832219
You see, I thought that going through the hard way would help me understand the whole thing

condensed matter physics is easier

>>58832235
SOMETIMES I KICK THE LIVING SHIT OUTTA ME

>>58832109

This is kind of what I'm trying to understand. I thought USE is telling emerge to compile additional parts of ABI for applications. If I don't care about compiling time, where do I not want to use all the available USE flags for every application installed. I'm actually looking at the opposite of cutting stuff out. I'm looking at building everything available and automating it so I never have to think about it. Still reading so sorry if this seems silly. The gentoo docs I've encountered thus far have a lot of "do this and then this" but very little "here is a block diagram overview and design philosophy"

>also, getting annoyed using dillo with no JS to use /g/ :)

>>58832044
yesss

"fixing" the infinality issue (really just compiling harfbuzz against my outdated infinality) fixed urxvt issues.

Pepe tarot 4U >>>/wsr/261985

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What the FUCK is this thing

>>58832321
RMS in drag.

>want install Linux Mint for my first linux distro
>boot screen
>a minute or two goes by
>"failed to start show plymouth" message pops up
>See 'systemcl status plymouth-start.service' for more information(something like that)
>Try several different distros. They all end in this same error
>Ubuntu however got to the installation part once but now still ends in error(forgot to do something on windows)

Is it something about my flash drive itself? I'm using a cheap 2gb surplus USB flash drive.

Someone said it could be with my video card but I changed the vga=xxx a few different times during launch but I still get the error. I've searched high and low for a situation similar to mine on the web, and I can't find anything. Just makes me want to cut my legs off in frustration.

>>58832340
>>want install Linux Mint for my first linux distro
Your first mistake

>>58832359
originally wanted to do ubuntu, but i've downloaded that, mint, and elementary just trying to see if it was a .iso file problem or a problem in compatibility to the specific distro

>>58832385
Don't get memed, Mint is just fine.

Anyone here good with ffmpeg?

>>58832298
I'm not sure I understand your confusion

It's basically like portage treats USE flags almost as dependencies in their own right. When setting up Gentoo you pick a profile (like the desktop profile) and, just like any other distribution will compile packages in a specific way for their distro, Gentoo devs select a default set of USE flags for each package individually that should be good enough for any desktop user.

So portage + the Gentoo developers do almost all of the USE flag work for you.
Even if you don't ever do anything at all with USE flags, your system is going to be adding/removing USE flags all the time according to updates and new software you install. It's really simple.

The only role you play in all of this as a user is that portage gives us the option of saying "Hey you, portage, don't ever give me fucking bluetooth" or "Hey portage, ALWAYS compile my shit with utf-8 and CJK support" or "add THIS component to just this particular package only for this specific version" and portage will listen to you and calculate your preferences against the defaults.

I think you're just overthinking it. The best way to learn is just to dive in and start using it on a daily basis. You'll find that there's really not nearly as much to think about as it seems.

>>58828872
Not that poster but Google, AWS, etc. Many companies use Ubuntu as their officially supported corporate image for your workstation or laptop.

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>>58832321

>>58832211
Nice! Good luck.

>>58832417

Of course you don't see the confusion as you're not confused. :)

Your answer nailed the root of my concern. Thank you very much, it was useful to me.

Hey guys, just installed Ubuntu and am completely new to Linux. Was wondering what YOU guys do on it and what I can do to maximize its OS potential. I have only ever used Windows. Any cool information would be great, thanks.

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Hi there /fglt/,

I'm having a myriad of problems with Xubuntu right now, and I'd appreciate some help with them.

1. For starters, I'm having trouble setting up my dual monitor display correctly. I would like for my primary monitor to be on the right, and my secondary monitor to be on the left. However, despite setting the monitor on the right as the "primary" monitor, the monitor positioned on the left always seems to be considered the primary monitor. Although I can move my panels and desktop icons to the monitor on the right, the login manager always appears on the leftmost display, new desktop icons always appear on that display, etc.

2. For some reason as of late, on boot, GRUB occasionally doesn't load on startup. It seems somewhat random--sometimes it shows up, other times my PC boots straight into Windows.

3. Also as of late, on boot, the first time opening Thunar seems to be very slow. It takes about 10-20 seconds to open. From that point on, it opens up instantaneously until reboot. Furthermore, Thunar seems to crash CONSTANTLY when conducting file transfers.

4. Also recently, my color settings (Nvidia) don't seem to be applying on boot. They seem to apply as soon as I open the Nvidia X server settings, for whatever reason.


I'm honestly considering switching to another desktop environment. These small problems just seem to keep continuously cropping up (I'm aware that some of these problems aren't specific to the DE, but I've had a host of other issues as well, such as audio problems and constant system errors that I haven't gotten on other buntus). Does anyone else have this much grief with XFCE? I used Unity for a while (yeah, I know, I know), and it was considerably more stable in my opinion.

>>58832593
Learn bash and how to use the terminal. A whole new world will open up to you.

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>For necrophilia, it might be necessary to ask the next of kin for permission if the decedent's will did not authorize it. Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my corpse, the first being scientific or medical use. Once my dead body is no longer of any use to me, it may as well be of some use to someone. Besides, I often enjoy rhinophytonecrophilia (nasal sex with dead plants).

https://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html

>>58832647
He's such an autist holy shit.

>>58832647
Lmao

>>58832647
How can one man be so based?

>>58832605
I have a feeling your primary display and your nvidia color settings (1&4) might be loaded on daemon start and you should make sure that is loaded automatically upon boot.

Never heard of intermittent grub issues like that, it sounds weird, or as if Windows is your default selection in Grub and sometimes you aren't paying close enough attention and let Grub boot the default after the timeout.

For 3, this is typical of thunar, and I believe has something to do with network mounts. You can google around for the answer, but one option is running thunar in daemon mode upon startup so that this occurs asynchronously in the background before you ever try to run the file manager.
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5959

>>58832605
>>58832728
I also want to mention that the only thing here that is even remotely DE-specific is your Thunar problem, but you can choose to leverage another file manager if you don't like Thunar. Aside from that your issues are with your bootloader and graphics drivers/xorg so moving away from XFCE won't really change anything.

Good luck anon.

>>58832593
First you install Kodi and listen to some good radio. When you develop a good tast, install Hexchat and get some hacker culture on the IRC.

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>>58832647
>https://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html

>>58832810
try ctrl-f

>>58832829
no that was my reaction to what he wrote

>>58832728
>>58832748
Thank you for taking the time to answer all of my questions.

With regards to the first problem, I'll be sure to look into that. I've also read somewhere that Ubuntu always considers the primary display wherever the (0,0) coordinate is among your two monitors, or something like that, which would explain why the monitor on the left always seems to be considered the primary display. Although, I'm not sure how I'd remedy that problem, or if that actually is the problem.

Regarding the GRUB problem, Xubuntu is set as my default selection, which makes it even more of a mystery as to why it sometimes boots straight into Windows. I should probably try boot-repair, I'm sure that would fix the problem.

Regarding Thunar, the fix within the link you sent worked perfectly! Thanks a ton, that was getting on my nerves.

And lastly, regarding XFCE, I suppose it was more of a general complaint rather than necessarily having to do with the problems I mentioned. I dunno, I've used 2 different distros using XFCE across 3 different computers, and just in my passive observation, I felt like they've been very buggy compared to when I've used the same distros with another desktop environment. You're probably right, though, given that so many people, especially here on /g/, seem to love XFCE. It may just be a confirmation bias thing stemming from my inexperience.

Thanks again!

I just installed Lubuntu, and the grub menu always comes up when I boot up.
How do I make it stop doing this?

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Has anyone ever tried running Debian on an old Geode-based thin client?

I'm looking at grabbing some IBM NetVista n2200s (running 233 MHz NS Geodes) mostly for emulating old IBM mainframe shit using an ultra-minimal Debian install as a base, but I'm open to other options.

Maybe something like TinyCore would be a more efficient option? I'm leaning towards Debian more for compatibility but I'll probably end up building the emulation software anyway.

>>58832913
It's supposed to do that.

>>58832913
are you dual booting?

>>58832922
It doesn't do that on my other computer.
>>58833005
No.

>>58833051
open /etc/default/grub
set these variables:
(remove #)GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 (you can set this value a little higher if you want. it makes it so that the grub menu doesn't appear unless you spam a key on boot, kind of like getting into your BIOS. making it longer means there's a longer window to press a key. you can hold shift down on boot to bring up grub, also.)
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
GRUB_TIMEOUT=0

save, then run "sudo update-grub" in terminal, then reboot

How do i make touchad and mouse not feel like shit in linux?
There is no touchpad acceleration and mouse for some reason ignores dpi settings so no matter what dpi i choose its still unprecise

GIMP IS ABSOLUTE PURE SHIT MADE BY UTTER FUCKING IDIOT

CANT YOU HACKS JUST FUCKING STEAL HOW PHOTOSHOP WORKS AND BE DONE WITH IT FUCKING STUPID RETARDS

>>58833325
>Copy something
>the stupid cuck shit faggot homo program doesn't understand when making a new document to adjust the fucking size automatically to fit what it is in the clip board

I am 100% fucking dead guaranteed sure none of the people who designed GIMPED have never ever had to design anything

>>58833325
calm down! you're T R I G G E R E D

>>58833325
Because we've never used photoshop

>TFW want to install lolcat to make le kewl fortune meme

>Needs 10 fucking ruby gems or whatever the fuck they're called

why is this allowed?

Need a PDF reader that allows me to "highlight" parts with colors, allows me to write notes on the side of the pages..

anyone got any ideas for such program? there are lots of programs like this for Android, but I need one for desktop use

I've barely used DEs at all since I'm new to GNU/Linux. What is best? Gnome? Xfce? KDE? Can't they all be made to look like each other?

>>58833683
lads pls. any ideas? this would help a lot when I'm reading studies and shit.

Why does everyone say to avoid Broadcom wireless like the plague? I've never set one up but just got a laptop with one, is it really that much of a pain?

>>58833481
https://github.com/tehmaze/lolcat/

>>58834384
Broadcom is usually the only wireless that won't set up out of the box. You almost invariably have to connect some other way to get it running. When you finally do, it drops all the time, forcing you to disconnect and reconnect to get it running again.

>>58834502
Damn, so it's forever going to be shitty and drop out, even when the driver's set up? No permanent workarounds? I really don't want to have to downgrade my kernel or stuff like that. I was really happy I got a super cheap MacBook that should work well with GNU/Linux in every other way.

>>58834384
The drivers they provide for their WLAN modules for Linux are of incredibly low quality.

They have a complicated (compared to others which are just "installed by default) set up and the connection quality leaves a lot to be desired.

Basically you want to go either with Intel WLAN chips or Atheros WLAN chips.
Intel ones require proprietary firmware (but they work), Atheros ones are freetard-approved.

I want to start using linux, guise

Where I can learn all those cool commands

>>58835198
by actually needing/using them

>>58835198
hack the gibson

so for some reason spyder3 is spamming my router with dns queries (>>58835371), while I try to figure out why, how can I stop a single application from accessing the net?
I'm pretty sure it's not possible to set per-app rules with iptables.

>>58830516
kek

>>58832404

I met ffmpeg at a friend's wedding, we're Facebook friends if that's good enough for you?

>>58832647
This guy is crazy

>>58835532
>>58832665

If you're so stupid not to get the tongue-in-cheek nature of that paragraph, then you should reconsider your life. Or at least stop posting or expressing your opinions elsewhere because you might embarrass yourself.

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>>58835427
ok, for now I am blocking that particular request with iptables with a "string match" (which is not exactly an optimal solution),
Now, it seems that it likes to converse with github.

>>58818516
What certs should a system administrator have?

>>58830516
Ya stuttering prick ya.

>>58835703
A fast look at the source reveal that it is to check for new versions (can't post link 4shit thinks github is spam)
heh, I hate software that calls home.

Firefox won't play youtube videos (or any other HTML5 content) if I have the Spotify web player open at the same time, which uses flash. I didn't have this problem with Chromium. What can I do to fix it, anons?

I fell for the bring old hardware back to life with linux meme and bought a thinpad t23. I love the look and feel of the machine but no distro seems to be able to configure the graphics properly. The cpu is helping out with rendering and is at 100% most of the time.

I am still learning the basics of linux so am struggling to grasp xorg configs etc. Is it worth the effort or is the hardware just too old? I was going to use it for browsing text based websites and playing around with the command line whilst listening to music. Its the pentium 3m 1.2ghz, a real beast in its day and the ram should be adequate at 512mb.

>>58836086
Remove Chromium, Spotify and Flash. It's botnet.

What browser does /fglt/ use?

>>58836220
ESR release of Firecocks.

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>>58836095
>>58836095
>bring old hardware back to life with linux meme and bought a thinpad t23
This meme is no longer relevant as modern Linux distributions require shitton computing power.
Unless you're interested in using the teletype interface on your ancient thinkpad I would recommend installing whatever OS T23 shipped with originally and all the appropriate software.

>>58836220
firefox, it's no longer that good but I am used to it and it's not google. I also really like certain features and plugins, like decent support for vertical tabs tree and some interesting "developer" tools.

>>58836601
This is not entirely true. Linux can revive anything up to a certain point. A T23 is just too damn old. On the other side my Grandpa uses a Pentium 4 2GHz and 1GB RAM and uses Ubuntu MATE. Works perfectly well even in 2017. You probably couldn't even get a modern Windows to install on the 20GB IDE hard drive.

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is there an equivalent of pass but for generating usernames?

>>58836625
>like decent support for vertical tabs tree
firefox does this natively? how

>>58836665
you will find tons of username generators on your favorite search engine

Does anyone else here really like Unity? I would genuinely use it on my arch box if it weren't near impossible. I discovered my love of Unity in the last few months, just as they're about to update it to Unity 8. I hope it's as good. It really has come a long way.

I swear shuttleworth isn't paying me

>>58836095
Why in the world would you buy anything that old? You can bring old hardware back to life with Linux but you could just as well have bought a 1984 Macintosh. The oldest ThinkPad that can still be used with modern Linux systems would probably be a T40 or X40 and even with those you wouldn't even get YouTube video playback beyond 360p. There are just some things old hardware isn't capable of.

>>58836652
I'm talking from experience.

My main shitbox (10 year old fujitsu-siemens laptop) runs debian w/ xfce.
I try to keep it neat, tidy, debloated as much as possible to make it run for as long as possible.

The sad truth is the same laptop runs a lot "snappier" on Windows XP (SP3)
The age difference does makes a difference unfortunately.


>>58836687
There's one guy on my year (the extremely rare specimen of someone completely clueless about computers who runs Linux and praises it) likes Ubuntu Unity a lot.

>>58836712
Of course it makes a difference. But if you're running XP you might as well dump the machine. With Linux you get an up to date system that runs reasonably well.

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>>58836678
no, not natively (although it is possible to do it with a custom userChrome.css IIRC).
My problem is that I couldn't fine a decent plugin for chromium. The only one working like I expect spawned the tab tree in a separate windows keeping the normal tabs on the top of the main window (similar to pic).

>>58836741
>But if you're running XP you might as well dump the machine.
Works well for Vanilla WoW

>>58823183
im running arch on a 2009 macbook.

>>58836750
what plug-in for FF do you use to get side tabs?

>>58836760
You're seriously running XP on a machine that is connected to the Internet? Wow. That's... bold I guess.

>>58833481
I think this all day.
>>58834484
yay! is python

>>58836784
I don't understand why couldn't I.
It's not like I run services on it or keep anything relevant on it.

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daily reminder why you're using Linux

>>58833683
okular?

>>58833754
you know the reason why there are so many is because people have opinions right? just visit http://www.xwinman.org/

>>58836810
It's connected to your home network just like the machines you keep relevant data on.
That's like building a brick wall with a door made of plywood and a big sign on top saying "Invade here"

>>58836770
>im running arch
thanks for posting

>>58836837
Yeah absolutely, cause XP machines (with the posready2009 patches mind you) not running any network service, behind a hardware firewall just pop on the radar of every haxx00r screen tagged "fuck me please".

Jesus, lay off that tinfoil hat for a while,

I've yet to see one (1) article that would confirm any of what you just said.

>>58836822
daily reminder that linux is just a kernel

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>>58836783
this one:
https://addons.mozilla.org/it/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/
I like how well it integrates in the UI (the side of the hiden/visible bar is customizable and it is possible to disable the auto-shrinking).

>>58836894
Thanks bratan

>>58836894
that looks fucking horrible senpai

>>58835198
by playing a game http://www.mprat.org/Terminus/

>>58836220
currently ESR, I would rather use IceCat but current distro doesn't have it on its repository

>>58836665

apt-get-install rig

http://rig.sourceforge.net/

>>58836687
>Does anyone else here really like Unity?
god, I hope not

>>58836783
is probably tab tree

>>58836822
best reason is pure addiction to GNU/Linux software

>>58836904
matter of opinion. Anyway size, theme and position are all customizable.

>>58836886
daily reminder that Richard Stallman is a disgusting cave dweller who hasn't achieved anything in his life besides growing a beard while linus torvalds developed the kernel RMS had been dreaming of for 10 years

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>>58836929

>>58836929
man ls
he also done your mother

>>58836929
Linus wrote like 2 percent of the kernel. All he did in the past years is approving code commits from others.

>>58836220
Chrome on chromebook and android (obviously), Firefox everywhere else.

>>58836908
you mean

 apt install rig 

you don't need -get anymore.

>>58837035
don't you get a fankendebian with that or the frankendebian is with aptitude alone?

>>58836936
>>58836940
Seriously though, RMS is a disgusting excuse for a human being. I'm not even talking about his auto-cannibalism here. He's completely anti social (for example he whips his laptop out whenever he doesn't feel like talking to people) and justifies is by saying stuff like "I got work to do".
"I got work to do" is pretty much his excuse for everything. If you look on his "How I do my computing" site you'll notice that, when asked about his opinion on specific software, he often replies something like "Oh, I'd love to try it out but I got work to do".
It's like he thinks of himself as the pope or something. Which is probably why he poses as "St. IGNUcius". That's just ridiculous. If you got something important to say, just say it and don't wrap it up in some pseudo religious bullshit, thinking you're funny. Free Software is by no means a religion to anyone else but maybe yourself.
Also, it seems like he just HAS to be the underdog, the Dark Knight, fighting underground for a cause that he doesn't even deem important.
>But Anon, why would you think he doesn't even care about Free Software?
Because he's just that kind of person that has to be against something and that has to be part of a "misunderstood" minority. Best example is the Open Source movement. While it doesn't differ from the Free Software philosophy in any way (it really doesn't), that's
exactly what RMS is trying to convince people of. Why? Because it has become too big for him to identify with. The term Open Source is getting more recognition than the term Free Software, hence RMS has to come by with phrases like "I have to interject for a moment", just because he wants everyone to know that he is in fact one of the few who truly understand the concept of Free Software/Open Source. The eternal teacher, so to say, only satisfied when he can look down on his little sheeps.

>>58837035
>>58837053
>you don't need -get anymore.
apt and apt-get are two completely different tools (although both are frontends to the dpkg)

It is perfectly acceptable to use apt to instal land remove packages.
However for more advanced settings you'll have to fallback to apt-get as apt doesn't have autoremove, doesn't have --purge etc.

I don't think you get borked installation by mixing the two, so far I haven't had any problems

don't reply to the troll, report flamewars

>>58837058
Open Source isn't a movement, it's a development model.

>>58837080
Just don't reply. He does it everyday, just take a peak in the archieves.
Almost every thread is filled with "le botnet bearded toejam commie man and how his license sux" until he gets bored and goes baiting somewhere else.

>>58837080
just post a comment without linking to his post and report

no you's for him

>>58837092
1. I actually just wrote that paragraph. This is no copypasta or anything.
2. Today is the first time that I actually post in the Linux thread.
3. I'm not saying GNU sucks. This was specifically against RMS. I advocate Free Software/Open Source, I just think his approach is hypocritical and unworldly.

no you's, just do what the rules say about flamewars

Dude eating pieces of skin from your foot LMAO!

You say that every single time.
If you have a beef with RMS, just write to him at [email protected]

wget is my favorite program.

>>58837210
curl is sometimes more powerful

>>58837210
>>58837214
aria2 beats both
get with the times

>>58837214
name something that curl can and wget can't

I've been trying to make a pure CLI based environment, but without sacrificing stuff like graphical browser, ebook reader and window manager.

I think I might found a way, using the framebuffer version of NetSurf for browser, and GNU Screen as my window manager (I am custom to Ratpoison). The only problem is the ebook reader, three applications have the combined feature (fbpdf/fimgs/fbgs), but no single one has TOC, pdf/djvu/cbr format.

Maybe someone else here is trying to achieve the same and has a different approach.

>>58837255
less can read pdf's

>>58837225
aria2 is heavy, is damn full of features, just heavy

>>58837260
yes I know, with lesspipe.sh right? not all formats though

>>58837267
you can also write a simple function like

lesspdf() {
    pdftotext -layout "${1:?}" - | less -r
}

That's what lesspipe does. There's a way for epub too, but I don't remember.

>>58832321
>it just werks

>>58837286
nice

>>58837286
einfo -pp

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have win10 on hdd. Just bought ssd and trying to install arch on it(ssd) to have dualboot. Things i have done so far:
1. Created bootable arch usb
2. Disabled fastboot and safeboot
3. Change bios boot order to first boot from usb
Now when i try to boot usb, i get pic related.
Where did i fucked up?

>>58837354
You fucked up at Step 1. You were supposed to use Ubuntu.

>>58837354
It literally says
>Waiting 30 seconds
so just fucking wait 30 seconds

what are your thoughts on Xubuntu? Does it crash frequently?

>>58837422
nothing happens after that. It just says try fixing stuff on your own and goes to rootsh

How do I make the USBs get mounted with normal permissions? I don't want to type sudo mount -o loop everytme and permissions fuck me up.

>>58837430
It's just ubuntu with xfce

>>58837430
It crashed as frequently as any other Ubuntu distro. I haven't experienced a crash in 2 years.

>>58837435
In that case you haven't even posted the error message.

>>58837430
Install Ubuntu.
Install XFCE.
wow you got Xubuntu now!

>>58837436
Udisks2

>>58837492
you forgot to remove unity

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New full-length Stallman interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUibaPTXSHk

>>58837562

There's something called the net-installer.
You don't need to remove Unity, you can just choose the Xfce session from the display manager.

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what's the simplest git repo I can use to backup personal dotfiles (must be private)

gitlab is "too much"

>>58837732
i think bitbucket offers private repos for free

>>58837743

those "enterprise" git repos are too much for my needs
I just need a place to store my dotfiles and snippets

>>58837786
>>58837732
Buy USB stick.

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https://www.opendesktop.org/
http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
https://alternativeto.net/
http://www.xwinman.org/
https://www.bountysource.com/

>>58837786
notabug
needs to get more popular anyway
alternativly, your own server

$ html2text --help
Unrecognized command line option "--help", try "-help".

that's the only downside with gnu/linux, no standards

>>58838086
Rrrrrrreminder to check for gaming news at
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/
https://linuxgameconsortium.com/
https://www.linux-games.org/browse/ord/latest/
https://www.penguspy.com/

>>58838302
>asking for dictatorship
>>>/windows/

That said, we have standards for everything (XDG, GNU, POSIX, etc to name some), but some people may not follow them and it's good that they have the freedom to do so, because it makes improvents possible.

I went from an AMD gpu to a Nvidia gpu but now I can't use the proprietary drivers and nouveau is slow as fuck and does not support hardware rendering.

Is this managable or should I just install a new distro?

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>>58838342
He's right though.
People should follow conventions, they exist for a reason.

The funny thing is, the github page for html2text lists --help and -h as the correct flags, but the manpage doesn't.
So in this case it's easy to blame the developer being inept or just silly.

>>58838350
noveau pretty much exist so you can boot the distribution and install proprietary drivers.

Why can't you install proprietary drivers?

>>58838521
I don't know exactly.
All command line tools I'm using the nouvea while in the driver manager it says I'm using the nvidia driver.

>>58838521
>noveau pretty much exist so you can boot the distribution and install proprietary drivers.
they managed to get decent performances with older gpus that they can reclock.

>>58838509
kek, that's a different program

$ html2text -version
This is html2text, version 1.3.2a

The latest version can be found at http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~mbayer/tools/

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT
ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS
FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details.

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Check out what I stumbled with the other day

>>58838676
where?

>>58838302
using - for long options is retarded
- is meant for short option (which can be combined like -abcdef) invented back at UNIX
-- are long options, invented by GNU and can't be combined
-longoption is just wrong!

>>58838700
Linux*

>>58838676
Amazed by the detailing on the cabinet.
Wonder if it actually makes enough money to pay for itself.

Sucks you didn't have a better camera

>>58838720
gtfo troll

>>58838700
That's what he meant by his post I assume.
The convention goes as you just said, so it's confusing to make it the other way around

Installing gentoo to a laptop, is it possible to change the filesystem of a subpartition?
i.e.

mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb2p4

All im pulling is the directory does not exist but

/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sdb2/

returns all the proper part ions in sdb2p[1-4] format.

Running Manjaro persistent installation off my 32 GB USB 3.0 USB

Do updates leave shit behind and take up space like/how Windows does? I want to see if I can free up space like that since my shit is choking on free space.

>>58838897

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Cleaning_the_package_cache

>>58838772
Im just gonna rm the sdb2 and divide up the freespace

GIMPED IS SHIT
PINTA IS SHIT

FU

What's a fast but modern distro which doesn't look ilke win 95? I'm talking about xfce

>>58839166
all of them

>>58839166
what qualifies as a fast modern distro?

>>58839166
http://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=All&category=All&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=All

Where can I get a torrent for Debian testing?
I can't find it on the Debian website

>>58839259
you install stable and upgrade to testing

protip: just use ubuntu lts, it's based on testing but has security patches

>>58823874
Done this before, have fun

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>>58839377
>>58839377

We are trying new links, check'em.

>>58831461
haha I chuckled

>>58830104
Or we could, you know, move all the consumer tech stuff to /v/ like we were supposed to from the beginning?

>>58837732
gitlist

>>58839462
I'd be ok with this, but it's not happening.

can someone please tell me what the fuck is going on, i'm running puppylinux and first my ext4 HDD got practically bricked out of nowhere and now my ext2 live USB has warning signs instead of icons and a grey background and it's pretending that this is the first time i launched it, holy fuck