/mpv/ vs /madvr/

>>58810767
Whatever that works for you, autist.
I use SMPlayer with built in mpv backend.

It seems madshi fixed the shader leaks so freetards probably can't steal them anymore.

>>58810777
t h i s
h
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>>58810767
mpc-hc+madvr is superior. mvp is a command line software for elitist 'programmers' with a lack of self esteem

mpc on windows, mpv on linux.

If Windows' CLI wasn't garbage, it might be a different situation.

>>58810838
But we can't use advanced/custom shaders with madvr, only ones that madshi bundled! It's very sad for advanced people like /g/.

>>58810797
>steal
>math

>>58811090
Yes!

>>58810767
>using meme renderers
>instead of getting proper quality releases

>>58811563
No you don't understand ...

>>58810797
What has been stolen?

>>58810767
mpv just works and have everything you need to watch a video in proper quality. Also, it's open-source.
why would you use madvr instead?

mpc-hc is pretty much dead at this point ;_;

madshi will have no choice but to port madvr to memepv for windows

>>58812064
why would someone want a port of madvr in mpv?

>>58812064
>port madvr to memepv for windows
that's easy
>port ngu
>done

wm4 | I started working on mpv2, but so far I only have a bunch of incomplete header definitions and not a single line of code

straight from the horse's mouth, w4m admits that mpv is shit

NGU or NNEDI3 lads?

>>58810767
mpv is shite used by linautists to watch their favourite moetrash that they ripped off of nyaa while jacking off at "muh minimalism"

>>58812064
>if it ain't broke, don't fix it

>>58810767
When will I be able to open youtube link directly with MPC-HC from my browser like with MPV + Open with Firefox extension + youtube-dl ?

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I just use IINA which uses mpv as backend.

Cool, mpv from PR 4114 works even under wine, and with the same performance as native mpv.

>>58812701
You only checked out of curiosity right, there is no real use case for this?

>>58812723
yes

>>58812134
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/2033
>Then the entire relicensing of mpv will fail. If there are only some cases, we'll probably try to remove the code of contributors who have not agreed (if possible). My plan B would be writing a new player from scratch.

>>58812833
Yeah some guy recently explicitly refused to relicense to LGPL because of ideological reasons, and his code is apparently widespread.

>>58812064
MPV works fine on windows

Can't believe the shills are still making mpv threads, a lot less than a few months ago so that's a plus at least.

>>58813215
Can't believe there are people who willingly use the buggy piece of shit that is madVR desu senpai

>>58812104
>port NGU
Did you ask igv?

>>58813163
No! Angle is still experimental and performance loss is real. Mpv with angle can't compete with madVR at all.

>>58814045
angle isn't the only backend on windows y'know

>>58814045
>performance loss is real
Angle is actually faster for most people than any other backend

>>58814045
>Mpv with angle can't compete with madVR at all.
Oh and also you are retarded, mpv with angle is much faster than madvr

Has madshi forgiven freetards for stealing his algorithms?

>>58814208
what algorithms? I don't know of any.

>>58814208
He's punishing them by attempting to remove nnedi3 from madVR in favor of NGU!
Freetards finished & bankrupt!

>>58814208
You mean making fun of his shitty coding?

>>58814246
>nnedi3
only retards use that

>>58814284
>what are jokes

help my mpv won't play videos from hitbox.tv. I get this error message:

[ffmpeg] rtmp: Server error: Playing denyed by notify event handler and callback return code
Failed to open rtmp://edge.live.hitbox.tv/live/burb.

>>58814045
>Angle is still experimental and performance loss is real
Not sure where you're getting this from. Both mpv devs and Google devs consider ANGLE to be stable, otherwise it wouldn't be the default in mpv. Even ANGLE's OpenGL ES 3.0 support is considered stable now (Google shipped WebGL 2, which is powered by ANGLE, in Chrome 56.)

Performance loss isn't real either unless proven otherwise. mpv has less GPU and CPU utilisation than madVR on my PC with comparable settings (ewa_lanczos and Jinc.) There is no evidence of non-neglible overhead with ANGLE at runtime, but there is a performance hit during shader compilation at startup.

>>58810797
Unlikely. Last I heard he added some rudimentary encryption and primitive anti-debugger techniques to the madVR binaries instead of just storing the shaders in plain text, but the shaders must be converted back to plain text before they are compiled, so you could probably still get them out by running MPC-HC and hooking the D3DCompile function.

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>mpv
nope

>>58810838

SOUURCCCEEEE

>>58814246
>he is punishing his competitors by removing features from his own software
Am I interpreting this correctly, exclamation-mark-overuse-madVR-shill-guy?

Use vlc you retaerds

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>>58817268
vlc and mpv are bad for anime

>>58817396
just use kiss anime

>>58817178
>>58817396
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/?task=search2&search_media_hash=bpWF7LQ-XBWsUnAbB_Xm3w

Never give up, man. I believe in you.

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>>58817461
This issue from 2014 still isn't fixed. This is why you're a subhuman, wm4

>>58817476
Maybe he'll fix it after two more years of shitposting. See you in 2019, buddy.

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>>58817524
I know it's you, subhuman. Last time you were lazy, after raising awareness of your shit player, you finally fixed the full-screen bug.

Sometime I got incredibly lag when playing *.TS video using Madvr+mpc-hc though my spec is incredible enough, someone know why?

>>58812723
>real use case for this?
Testing wine d3d11 support. With Direct3D 11 feature level 11_0 everything works so far - interpolation, shaders like nnedi3 (I assume it compiles to sm 5.0) with performance of more than 90% of native mpv, I'm surprised at the wine d3d11 support.

vlc cus it just works and also idgaf about a minor bit of choppyness when scrubbing a video. im not into tv and movies anymore like i used to

>>58812701
>>58819071
That's kind of neat. I wouldn't have expected it to actually work in Wine, yet alone get decent performance. Out of interest, did it work before PR 4114, or did that PR fix something? Also, are you using the bundled d3dcompiler_*.dll or Wine's version?

>>58819346
Before that PR was only audio and black screen.
I'm using mpv-static-angle.exe only, so bundled d3dcompiler_*.dll.

>>58819387
>bundled
Oops, I mean wine's.

>>58810767
MPV for me.

>>58819387
Oh weird. Maybe ANGLE tried to call some stubbed-out API or something.

If Wine's d3dcompiler_*.dll works, I might try using it on Windows, since Microsoft's HLSL compiler is ridiculously slow.

>>58810767
MPV has no GUI. Simply pausing a video requires typing in a command.

how much is wm4 paid by plex?

>>58819501
Microsoft's HLSL compiler isn't slow, it's ANGLE's shader parser is slow.
You can't use wine's built-in dlls on Windows.

VLC for life.

>>58819536
>retard that never even tried this player

>>58817183
It's literally in the picture, you moron.

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mpv doesn't support xysubfilter

>>58819546
Actually, according to Mozilla, Google and Microsoft devs, the HLSL compile step is the slowest part of an ANGLE shader compilation by an order of magnitude: https://crbug.com/angleproject/422

And it is possible to rip Wine DLLs out of the Wine project and run them standalone on Windows. See the wined3d project: https://github.com/adolfintel/wined3d4win

>>58810767
What's the difference between mpv and mplayer2?

>>58819624
You seem out of date. XySubFilter died over a year ago. libass is faster now. In fact, people are now using libass with MPC-HC and madVR on Windows. You should check out AssFilterMod.

I'd like to be able to comment on mpv, unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to fucking install it.

>>58819702
mplayer2 died due to some kind of internal disagreement. mpv has the same developers except wm4 is leading the project instead of uau. Unlike MPlayer, which is ostensibly still alive, mplayer2 is super dead.

>>58819746
redpill me on uau, was she a SJW troublemaker or something?

>>58819697
Seems like performance is so good just because it doesn't do any glsl->hlsl->glsl translations.

>>58819768
I don't think that's his pronoun. I haven't interacted with him much, but he seems like the typical arrogant multimedia dev. Apparently he was more abrasive than most because he was the reason behind both the forks that led to mpv.

>>58819834
I assumed uau is Uoti Urpala mentioned in the article. Uoti is a female name
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPlayer#Forks

>>58813243
I don't use madvr, anon. Not sure where from my post you got that idea.

mpv looks better out of the box than mpcshit.
mpv looks better configured than configured mpcshit.

>>58819872
Well MPlayer devs use "he" on the mailing list: https://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dev-eng/2010-May/064672.html

>>58817476
>the player won't open corrupted files properly!

I love mpc-hc and the only problem I have with it is that it shits itself when it plays .mkv or .avi

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>>58820057
>corrupted files
not even him but you're a total fucking retard if you think that, I hope you don't think the vlc meme about the same thing was due to "corrupted files"

>>58820125
Maybe you shouldn't watch anime then, fucking baby.

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>>58820155
if you don't watch anime you don't belong here

>>58810767
MPC-HC because it actually works.

>>58820125
The VLC meme was mainly about it not bothering to seek to the nearest keyframe and just starting playback whenever. This was fixed by VLC 2.0. mpv, VLC and MPC-HC/LAV all use the same codecs, so there should be little-to-no difference in how they decode video. The differences between these players are more subtle things like colour accuracy, scaling, frame timing and interpolation.

Also, the video from that issue report really was a broken file, and it only showed that corruption when it was decoded by VDA (hardware accelerated) on a Mac. Software decoders tend to have better error detection, which can hide errors in subtly broken files like that one.

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>>58820177
>the video from that issue report really was a broken file
Source?

>>58820185
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/1052

>>58820161
Back to your containment board weeb
>>>/a/

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>>58820215
anime website

>>58820220
Keep saying that like it means anything. It's a technology board, faggot.

dumb animeNEETs

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>>58820231
>Keep saying that like it means anything
this is an anime website, anon

>>58820239
see >>58820231

>>58820220
>>58820239
This is a technology board, the crappy jappy cartoon board is >>>/a/ so kindly fuck off back there

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>>58820247
>>58820250
so cute

>>58820250
If this isn't an anime board, how do you explain all the weebs?

why do anime losers have 0 self awareness?

>>58820252
>This is a technology board, the crappy jappy cartoon board is >>>/a/

>>58820255
They have leaked out of their >>>/a/ containment board.
The same way all the reddit cucks here complain about /pol/

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>>58820283
you can stop complaining about anime any time, reddit

>>58820294
>when /a/ spills out of their containment board, just report them - moot

You heard the man, report all crappy jappy cartoons outside of /a/

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>>58820311
Do you get this autistic over anime on other boards?

>>58820250
>>58820283
>>58820311
>crappy jappy cartoon
You should get yourself checked for autism. That sounds dangerously reminiscent of a CWCism. If you just coined that term and you think it's smart enough to repeat in three consecutive posts, you might have a problem.

>>58817476
>>58817524
>>58820057
>MPV tards actually defending this

What's the point of a barebones media player that can't even handle seeking, one of the most basic functions of a media player. Literally why even use this?

>>58820414
no body defends VLC, retard

>>58820423
???

When the fuck did I say anything about VLC, dumbass?

>>58820429
media player that can't even handle seeking

Also retard you are replying to us just a troll
see >>58820199

>>58820444
>media player that can't even handle seeking

That was in response to another anon's webm about MPV, anon. No idea where you got VLC from either of those posts, bud.

>>58820469
The only player that can't handle seeking is VLC

>>58811029
Why its garbage?

>>58820495
But evidently that's false as evident by >>58817476

You're really grasping, anon. Keep using VLC as your scapegoat. I don't even use it, so I couldn't care less.

>>58820199
>>58820444
I still get that issue with OGM files but I guess they're so rare that they don't bother

>>58820507
>Keep using VLC
Omg you are retarded

also
>evident
>believing some trolls on 4chans

>>58820518
>h-he's just trolling, don't b-believe him!

So not only are you a complete fucking retard, you're also delusional.

>>58820177
It wasn't fixed in 2.0. The gray screen shit still happened on 2.2.1 after pausing the video for a while.

>>58820524
>newfag detected
that troll was shitposting same shit for at least a year.
now get lost, retard

How do I get subtitles on mpv on windows?

>>58820603
Drag them onto the player window or set sub-auto=fuzzy

>>58812833
>>58812860
Note that it's not really a complete rewrite as major stuff like the OpenGL VO can simply be reused.
For other already-LGPL'ed stuff glued to GPL'ed stuff rewriting is often faster than removing the GPL'ed stuff.

Hi /mpv/,

Since UHD Bluray rips are becoming more prevalent and are clocking in at ~55Gigs a pop, I thought I would change my cache settings accordingly

cache=yes
cache-file="K:\TEMP\mpvcache"
cache-default=62914560
cache-backbuffer=12582912

However, now mpv does not show any cache whatsoever, so my question is, is there a size limit of the cache option? The manual does not give me that information.

>>58811563
I too like to letterbox my anime on a 3840x2160 resolution screen.

Serious question: MPC-HC and MPC-BE - which one is better?
I know that MPC-BE doesn't support AssFilterMod and MKV Ordered Chapters. Does MPC-HC support all this?
Is there any other big differences between the two players besides the black interface?

>>58822076
Just use mpv and keep it simple.

>>58822086
To be honest I don't have patience to configure the interface and fine-tune mpv.conf for my hardware. I'd use an SMPlayer but I hate that interface straight from the year 2000.
I dislike MPC-HCs interface as well, I'd prefer something more dark and "sleek" like MPC-BE or PotPlayer. I'd even use PotPlayer if I could find how to enable 16bit/32bit float point processing to make 2 pass Adaptive Sharpen shader work (1pass AS port for mpv seems to look worse) but I couldn't find this setting anywhere in the PP settings.
And video quality is pretty much the same on all players anyway, even with my madVR settings, I have a pretty old videocard so madVR settings relatively low-end.

>>58822202
>1pass AS port for mpv seems to look worse
No it's not, it's actually better now than 2pass

>>58822249
Good to know!
I didn't notice that the single pass shader was updated.

>>58812226
Depends on the source material. If it's low quality sd rip then nnedi3. If it's decent quality video then NGU.

>>58822202
MPC-HC is free as in freedom. If you don't like its look, just fork it.

>>58822249
Eh, maybe other stuff from the config like scalers messed with this shader. Last time I tried it the image was much brighter with AS on mpv compared to AS on mpc-be.
Again, wasn't patient enough to fine tune the config file for my machine (FX6300 @ AMD6850). Don't think I'd get a noticeable difference compared to the default config anyway but maybe fine tuning it would've helped lower the GPU usage somewhat since it pretty much always runs in high-perf mode whenever I was playing a nonDXVA video in mpv.

>>58819721
Xysubfilter is pretty much perfect. Also no one uses she shit you mentioned.

>>58822202
In one of the latest commits to hlsl as, beacondither seems like went full retard and made it look like shit.

>>58822413
I still have the dec 2016 version of it on MPC-BE. Used this one for mpv, I think: https://gist.github.com/igv/8a77e4eb8276753b54bb94c1c50c317e
Brightness issue could've been caused by other settings in the conf file, don't remember what else I had there besides opengl-hq one. Shame there isn't like a database for conf files or some gui presets, I'm really lazy when it comes to tinkering with config files. Googling those things is tedious as well.

>>58822318
Nah NGU pixart for everything!

>>58822516
There is not much to configure
My conf:

profile=opengl-hq
opengl-shaders="~~/adaptive-sharpen.glsl"
hwdec=auto
keep-open
ytdl-format=High/bestvideo[height<=720][vcodec=vp9]+bestaudio/[height<=720]

Set and forget

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I used mpc with CCCP for a while, only recently trying madvr on a reinstall. It got really weird and glitchy. Fullscreening wasn't smooth, streamlink had some issues, and whenever I moved to another monitor, it glitched the fuck out. I just decided to install smplayer since I know that works on my Linux build and I'm fine with it.

BUT both are good players. It's a fucking video player my dude don't be an elitist

>>58820603
There's a subtitle button in the UI. MPV autodetects subs if they have the same name as the vid (same as any player). I think pressing "j" cycles through the subs in the folder.

>>58822563
Do you use the same AS as I linked in the previous post or is there another fork/port of it? Might try it again later.

>>58822636
yes, same

>>58822561
No! Pixard is for SD content! Regular NGU for everything else!

>>58822563
You fucking idiot. Why dont you use resample?

>>58822671
Here's how it looks on mpc and mpv with your settings: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/199700

Colors and tone seem to look closer to the source file with AS off on MPC (thicker and darker lines). Though BD source looks like an upscale from 720p anyway.
Also had SS from Bakemonogatari (can't find them now) and mpc-be looked sharper than mpv while not being overly sharp, just the right amount of it.

>>58822856
Can you upload source image (just press "s" in mpv)

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There is a reason every video quality enthusiast uses madVR.

>>58822856
>with AS off on MPC
>mpc-be sharpen
so is it on or off

>>58822856
Both of those look miserable. Why do people like introducing and exacerbating artifacts with sharpening filters?

>>58823017
>implying source is of good quality

>>58822966
Yeah, forgot about it, shouldve used that for the comparison as well instead of ShareX screencap.
http://i.imgur.com/sfwcVQ0.jpg
Also, for the previous comparison I used EVR-CP instead of madVR with mpc-be.
>>58823001
I meant that the sharpened frame from MPC looks closer to the source (with sharpen off) in terms of colors and tones, sorry.
>>58823017
Have you seen Madoka's 1080p "source"? It's quite blurry. It might be how Meguca encoded that but I honestly don't want to download RAWs just to compare them. Adaptive Sharpen works quite well in this case.

>>58823036
Do you know what exacerbate means?
I'm saying sharpening just makes source artifacts more noticeable.

>>58823091
Well no shit. Most it comes down to personal taste.

>>58823091
I rarely noticed any artifacts with AS shader. I'm not denying they don't exist but blurry picture annoys me more than some slight ringing or halo in some frames, which again, I rarely notice.

Should I use madVR if I only watch regular film/TV in unscaled 1080p?

>>58823017
Theyre retards.

>>58823149
Yes. Use the highest possible NGU for chroma. Reduce banding artifacts: medium/high. Enable smooth motion. Disable everything under "trade quality for performance".

>>58822856
wrong chroma upscaling on mpc-be screenshot

>>58823271
>retard saying that some one is retard

>>58823348
>wrong chroma upscaling on mpc-be screenshot
How to fix? Used EVR-CP with default settings for that screenshot, madVR disabled.

>>58823462
use madvr

>>58823477
Looks the same with madVR.
For chroma upscaling I have Lanczos4taps + AR. What should I change it to if I have an old 6850 GPU?

>>58823522
Jink or Lanczos is fine. Chroma does not matter much anyway unless youre not upscaling your video.

>>58823596
Lanczos is a bit easier on my GPU so I use instead of Jinc.
Not sure what that "wrong chroma" was about.

>>58820901
I presumed as much, I also noticed wm4 wanted to expose the opengl renderer as a library. How compatible would such a rewrite be? Would it keep the variety of protocols, output drivers, lua bindings... ?

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>>58822856
Your comparison is weird as fuck this is your mpc (cropped)

mpv everywhere, even windows

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>>58823966
your mpv

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>>58823985
and my mpv screenshot
looks like your mpc-be is actually mpv

>>58823966
>>58823985
>>58824008
All of these look like garbage. What the fuck are you doing with your settings?

>>58810767
mpv is the only way.
I won't use a dead project (mpc-hc) with a CV-enhancer placebo software (madvr) dev by a outrageously narcistic piece of shit (madshi).
mpv borderless + streamlink + streamlink-twitch-gui is god tier

>>58824008
I didn't mess the screenshot titles if that's what you mean. You can clearly see the "Pause" from MPC-BE on the sscomparison website.
Might be something is wrong with the particular mpv build or config, but the only video settings I have in my mpv.conf are:
profile=opengl-hq
hwdec=auto
Tried with hwdec=no but it didn't make any difference whatsoever.

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>>58824008
>>58823985
>>58823966
And here's without shitty sharpening

>>58824068
>All of these look like garbage. What the fuck are you doing with your settings?
>profile=opengl-hq
lol

>>58824175
>blurry shit

>>58824179
Either the source is completely filtered to shit in which case opengl-hq can't do much, or there are sharpening shaders applied.
>>58824197
Enjoy your artifacts.

>>58824217
enjoy wearing glasses

>>58824217
>>Either the source is completely filtered to shit in which case opengl-hq can't do much, or there are sharpening shaders applied.
Thats what i thought. The image is bloated with artifacts and oversharpened.

>>58824217
>blur is not artifact
lol

>>58824244
Sounds like you're the one who needs them if you can't see them.

>>58824217
>Enjoy your artifacts.
Find a few on those screens

>>58824266
>I need glasses so I could be disgusted by artifacts
k, great logic

>>58824326
Then if you're already half blind why do you even care? Save yourself some cycles and use nearest-neighbour.
>>58824301
You mean the jaggies everywhere are not enough?

>>58824368
>You mean the jaggies everywhere are not enough?
I'm not an eagle and my monitor is more than 30cm from my face so those are not enough for me to go back to Vaseline, sorry.

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>>58824368
Sounds like you watching videos like this

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>>58810767
lavfilters pack uses madvr so that one because I'm a weeb.

>>58824543
Those are some massive booboos...