Why is linux so crappy for anything professional? >fresh

>>58806128

Learn to use JACK if you're really a professional audio person.

>>58806142
does anyone even know how to use jack anyone i've ever asked theyre like "lol never got it to work"

???

I produce amateur video game music with Linux. Works for me.

>>58806201
what software?

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>>58806128
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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i actually fucking hate linux. I just spent like 2 hours trying to fucking get Ardour to work and it still doesnt work after about 50 google searches and random ass threads

yeah i could of recorded an entire demo by now LOL fuck this gay fucking stupid shit. WASTE OF TIME.


(look at my fucking history)

Yeah, i'm mad.

>>58806161
stop being lazy it isn't hard
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit

even if you dont use arch linux, it's wiki is one of the best resources for linux users

>>58806697
God damn Ubuntu is ugly

Linux is shit for audio-video editing and playing video games.

Don't really do any of those things myself, but thats keeping my friends from switching.-

>>58806761
[ unsubstantiated claims intensify ]

>>58806128
basically if a program has a gui, you're better off using it in windows

>>58806717
it literally is completely a broken buggy piece of shit. why should i waste my fucking time fixing developer issues.

Why am i even trying to get this working on linux when it works in windows?

Why have I wasted 3 hours of labour trying to get a fucking audio program to even OPEN let alone learn it

I'm so fucking mad. i should be paid for this fucking gay shit.

I'm at an issue where it simply fails to create the session. Some sort of "jack doesnt have permission to run in real time" shit.

I added myself to the audio group, all the groups you can think of, fucked with countless config files. Whatever.

It's fucking shit and broken.

Linux is a god damn mess and I'm sorry I ever messed with it.


Mad [2]

>>58806717
>>58806892

Btw jack is like working, I don't even know anymore. Or care. It's all a broken shit mess for idiots who don't care about wasting 10 hours of time just to get a simple program to even start.

Any by the way the ubuntu Software center is a massive failure piece of SHIT

>try to remove ANYTHING
>click 'Remove'
>nothing happens
> 10 mins later it still acts as if you didnt press it
> press it again
> nothing
>random it finally removes its self
>same thing happens if you try to install anything
> ended up uninstalling Ardour and reinstalling from the website
>same issue
>trying to remove jack and redo the whole process
>the entire OS is a massive clusterfuck of half working software
>already got like atleast a dozen "Ubuntu found an error and crashed do u wanna report it lol?" boxes

JUST.

linux is garbage

ie for applications

you can't just sudo apt-get a program because half of the programs don't even have a repository, so you need to first install their repository, update the repository, and then download

then you have shit like qbittorrent where you can apt-get it, but it'll only install an old version of the program. you have to install the qbittorrent just to get the latest version

freetards are fucking retarded, and they'll defend bullshit like this

>>58806128
>fresh ubuntu installl
Found your problem

>>58806925
>Any by the way ubuntu is a massive failure piece of SHIT
I'm already aware of that, hence why I don't use Ubotnetu.

>>58806974

whatever distro you use is trash too which is why you don't even mention it

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are you not ashamed of yourself?

>>58806954
ok dude let me boot into my Arch linux partition and spend another 10 hours with no results LMFAO

Here's a challenge :") - XD

ANYONE with a linux installation
Go install Ardour from your preferred repo. See how long it takes for you to get it up and runing

PLEASE

>>58806128
You sound like a sub 80 IQ ape, maybe learning things isn't your thing, please stay on Windows.

>>58807057
screenshot your ardour4 with an imported mp3 or shut the fuck up and go read some wiki's

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>>58807083
Why do you assume everyone is a musicfag like you?
That's a strong indication of autism.
Must be hard to be retarded and autistic.

Yeah I agree. OP is acting like a fucking child. You sound like you hate yourself and hate your life. Either be patient and work through the issues or stop shitposting your emotional garbage and go back to Windows.

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>>58806128
Lel know nothing about configuring pulseaudio / jack
you a kek

>>58806128

You're not supposed to get things done. You're supposed to sit there and learn how to get things done. Indefinitely. Then pretending that learning is somehow relevant in your life and that it's turning you into a real "enthusiast" or whatever the fuck.

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>>58807170
>pretending that learning is somehow relevant in your life
Truly the mindset of successful people.

>>58806128
>muh professionalism
Go fuck yourself.

>>58806730
>t. i3cuck

>>58806697
>(look at my fucking history)
>Skrillex
You need to be at least 12 y.o. so you can post here.
Now go away, pupper.

>>58807197

You don't even know what "learning" means. You're probably one of those people who think that reading books will make you "smart".

You're confusing symbol with reality buddy. Every moment spent fucking around with Linux is a moment you could spent learning something useful. While I'm sure learning how to fuck with Linux is genuinely useful to some people, something tells me you types do it only to impress other dickwads in desktop generals and similar threads.

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>>58807333
>reading books will make you smart
depends on the book

>learning how to fuck with Linux is genuinely useful
depends on what you're fucking around with in linux

get my jist?

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>>58807401

"pretending that learning is somehow relevant in your life" as in "that specific learning" as in "learning those specific things".

get my jist?

I just love how it goes every time.

> Install Linux for endless choices and freedom!
> You end up stuck with one and a half solutions that work

> Linux works on everything in the universe, servers, phones, even my dad's toshiba satellite!
> You end up being the one with not exactly the type of config Linux supports this season

> DEs, thousands of them!
> Except there's only 1 that's stable enough for daily use and doesn't give you eye cancer with all that screen tearing

>>58807495
I'm not 58807197, so I did understand what you meant originally. It all depends on how you use the stuff you've learnt while fucking around with linux.

I'm currently programming random stuff in C on GNOO/Linux, just getting to know the basic process of programming, compiling and building programs. You could also probably put your effort in linux toward ricing your desktop to the max, but that's like comparing someone being prescribed Desoxyn and your average meth-head. They're on the same drug, but one of them does actually creative and useful stuff.

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>>58806938
You confused Linux with a shitty distribution.

>>58807608
Linux is a kernel, which is nonfree (it includes binary only blobs) and should be avoided.

>>58806128
What happened to me?
Installed Linux in my office, plugged in headphones, started blasting local rappers (not english).
Two days later boss comes to my office to disable the music.
Turns out the music was playing on my headphones equally as on the internal speaker so everyone wa slistening to bad words about bitches for two days.

>>58806925
>Using Noobuntu
What did you expect?

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What in the absolute fuck?


>hey dev I can't run the program correctly

>LOL SUCKS TO BE YOU - Dev

....what the fuck? is this how linux program developers operate?

not to mention if you try to download it its like

>Pay what you want hehe! :)
> put in "what you want"

>THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, WHAT THE FUCK, WE NEED TO EAT, PAY ATLEAST $50!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck this gay company and program.

>>58807979
So you're not mad at Linux, not even mad at your shitty distro, but actually at a single faggot. Have you considered fucking off to >>>/g/sqt/ ?

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>>58808009
Mad at all of it you baboon. Linux breeds faggot mentality, all the software is shit, every distro sucks ass for anything other than browsing the internet (and even that sucks because if you have more than 2 porn tabs open it drops to 2fps)

Why use it outside of command line server bullshit?

What a disaster. What a joke.

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>>58807979
>Sad. Quaint, even

*TIPS*

>>58808046
>if you have more than 2 porn tabs open it drops to 2fps
Not for me

>>58808068
hmm it's almost like the drivers actually work well for 25% of all people

Woah..

>>58808085
>25%
Nice sources... oh wait, you didn't provide any.

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>>58806128
Because this is clearly just a linux bashing thread take some pasta, enjoy:
Kicad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCG4daPvuVI
Natron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MvbfuITT8
Blender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRTjzLNK0g
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoJgQAfb5Y
Lightworks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znIHsyqfm0
Kdenlive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hO4K7mZG4
Unity3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4BUcIDdpAM
Opentoonz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFUtqM8oAs
Godot engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqumdhqy8Uw
BricsCAD VS Autocad
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
Bricscad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLM3NrOJms
Freecad Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW0AqKG5zI
Freecad BIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmjz6WXyWBY
Freecad & 3D printing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZeThC38ug
Gimp 2.10 features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RIveQypgw
How to install photoshop on wine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgugAj69xw
Digikam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk_VzedqlU
Pixar Film Production
https://youtu.be/JmH4KYcmHOo
Linux art 1
http://www.sylvia-ritter.com/new-gallery/
Linux art 2
http://www.peppercarrot.com/

>>58807674
You have autism

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>>58808171
Take some more pasta just in case you're still hungry:
Not him but the no games argument is not true anymore. Windows is the best os for gaming mostly due to most game developers are trained into developing for it with microsoft's closed APIs, so the simple process of porting a game that was developed for windows to any other platform will affect negatively the performance of the game. This with the fact that the marketshare is small compared to windows there's hardly an incentive at the moment to optimize for linux, making look as if the platform were worse for games than windows when in fact to flip the situation you'll need to change the idiosyncrasies on the industry itself.

The fact though is that the situation on linux is not nearly the same than two years ago and now those who prefer linux over windows now can play games on it, helping to break the vicious circle, but still there's a lot of things to do for linux to compete in the gaming side. I anyone wants for this to change i recommend to play the games you can on linux when possible and ask for linux ports.

I notice some people doesn't want's for this to happen but if that the case let me ask (not directed specifically to the person i'm replying): how are any of you benefited in a meaningful way with the current situation? because i consider that keeping the statu quo just to have a tool to win an argument on what OS is better is not a meaningful thing. how having less options and practically being locked to MS products benefits you?

Some links:
https://steamdb.info/linux/
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category1=998&os=linux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXr8bqzf45Y
https://www.youtube.com/user/tuxreviews/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/airspeedmph
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jakejw93/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/mrdeathjr28/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZvwhwT1Sk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9gsu_YWUzE

>>58807003
Turns out you are a scrub. I made it work on Slackware, of all things.
I had to compile it from slackbuilds, which means it was 15 minutes for manual dependency resolution and some configuration and 30 minutes for compilation.
Total time around 45 minutes, but my input was only around 15 minutes.
I'm on a laptop with integrated microphone so I can't really evaluate sound quality.

>>58808171
>>58808186

This is all well and good, but this is a list of compromises you must make to use linux over windows.

All i can see from the 2nd post is "linux would be much better if devs supported it more than windows"

Which is massively fucking obvious, and they don't and they won't since there is no real benefit to changing to support <1% of the desktop market, especially considering that freetards don't actually like spending cash (inb4 humble bundle graphs of linux users spending more on average, you cucks are so desperate for decent software, you have to try and tempt devs with an additional 60c extra revenue).

Holy fucking shit. And as I make this thread PulseAudio just completely shit the bed and is completely glitched out and distorted. RANDOMLY

WHAT THE FUCK HAHAHAHAHAHAHASGUIoASDHIGSDBHG{PSDHGOPSDBGIOPBSDGHD

>>58806128
tfw OSS master race. alsacucks btfo

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>>58807979
Hmm, interesting. Still better than microsoft tho.

>>58808293
>especially considering that freetards don't actually like spending cash (inb4 humble bundle graphs of linux users spending more on average, you cucks are so desperate for decent software, you have to try and tempt devs with an additional 60c extra revenue).
You know clearly the situation and you grasp perfectly that it's a vicious circle, and you seem to understand that to break a vicious circle it's necessary to work. Yet why you try to mock linux users for supporting their platform? why do you have sttrong feelings against it? and in what way the "success" of that people will hurt you?

Just answer the question on the previous pasta directly:
>how are any of you benefited in a meaningful way with the current situation? because i consider that keeping the statu quo just to have a tool to win an argument on what OS is better is not a meaningful thing. how having less options and practically being locked to MS products benefits you?

>>58807130
Damn my depression is so hardcore that ranting about linux makes people aware of it

Not even sarcastic it's pretty bad.
I shouldn't be anywhere near linux it's making it worse. But i'm bored, and want to prepare myself for when Win7 is kill.

>>58807130
Who are you even 'agreeing' with you absolute sperg, talking to yourself again? forget your meds today?

>how are any of you benefited in a meaningful way with the current situation? because i consider that keeping the statu quo just to have a tool to win an argument on what OS is better is not a meaningful thing. how having less options and practically being locked to MS products benefits you?

It works. Linux offers nothing over windows, and since it's software library is full of inferior alternatives, it falls flat.

Why do I need to re learn how to basic tasks to be able to do what I was already doing but in a less efficient way?

Only 1 "advantage" linux has over windows is that software freedom nonsense. Campaigning for FOSS and software free of "harmful" licenses is about as first world problems as you can get.

>>58808492
You need to stick with it because it takes a while to get used to.

If you have a laptop that you want to squeeze better performance out of, use it on there. I use Linux because it runs better and my X220 really slugs around with windows 7 which is absolutely frustrating. Just dual boot, use it and see if you can like it. Maybe try other distros. I always had frustrations with Linux until I moved to arch personally. Not that I didn't use Xubuntu and MATE for a long time because of how stable it was

>>58808492
Mate just chill. I hopped to Linux two weeks ago after using Windows exclusively for 17 years and I love it so much more than any Windows before.

Add the kxstudio repos and install Carla and Cadence. They make JACK SOOO much easier.

>>58808697

>It works. Linux offers nothing over windows, and since it's software library is full of inferior alternatives, it falls flat.
Wait, your logic is basically "It sucks so it's good if it fails"? that's what are you saying? We're not discussing if it's good or bad, but in what way it hurts you it's sucess or why don't you like the idea of having it as a completely viable (and optional) alternative if more companies support it.

>Why do I need to re learn how to basic tasks to be able to do what I was already doing but in a less efficient way?
You don't, that's why i asked in what way it harms you. You're not obligated to use linux in any way so i don't get why you talk as if you were obligated to use it. Tell me, do you fear that if it becomes popular your current knowledge about other operative systems will worth less? it's something like that?

>Only 1 "advantage" linux has over windows is that software freedom nonsense.
What is your reasoning to say it's a nosense?

>Campaigning for FOSS and software free of "harmful" licenses is about as first world problems as you can get.
Would you mind to explain?

Linux users actually get something if it becomes popular, as it was stated they get better support from companies which currently ignores the platform. What i don't get is in what way having less options and supporting anti-competitive practices like lock-ins benefits the people who is against other platforms and open standards becoming popular.

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>>58806128
>professional

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>>58809657
I agree, the "muh professionalism" argument is usually the only argument used to defend windows. It's basically an attempt to plant the idea that "windows is for professionals" and "linux is for nerds", same as mindlessly saying "mac is for artists and designers". It's some kind of product positioning that works fine of people that doesn't bother to question what those marketing companies says. I don't know about apple but microsoft has a big record on manipulating opinions and buying positive reviews on media. The bad part is that it has consequences in the long run because it becomes very hard to believe anything positive said about the products of that company.

>>58809724
Reminds me of the last batch of MS tablet ads:

>I couldn't do x with a mac

It's actually worse than the "I'm a PC" shit.

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>>58809807
It reminds me of the scroogled campaign where they tried to plant the idea that a chromebook is "not a real laptop" if it don't have windows or officeand it's very funny that now MS has a web version of office and they're trying to push their own "cloud OS" because despite their underhanded tactics the chromebooks sold like hot cakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjQhYBKInwo

>>58807003
works fine ubuntu studio on t61

it must suck to get so easily butt-flustered

>>58810134
>not a real PC
How do they get away with this shit, who gets to say what a "real PC" is anyway?

>>58806128
>line in/mic doesn't work on ubuntu or arch
>BETTER COMPLAIN ON FUCKING /g/ OF ALL PLACES INSTEAD OF THE UBUNTU/ARCH FORUMS SO THE DEVS KNOW WHEN AND HOW TO FIX THIS
fuck off

>>58810628
>who gets to say what a "real PC" is anyway?
Microsoft apparently. On top of that they already decided what is considered normal and what not when using a computer by having deals with schools to tech how to use their products from a young age. That's why package managers are bad, using the command line is hacking the matrix, ads directly in the OS are just "suggestions", privacy is only for criminals, creating formats with the purpose of locking the users is only acceptable when they do it.

>>58808697
>Only 1 "advantage" linux has over windows is that software freedom nonsense.
And that's tied to the license, not the architecture.
It's more modular, though(unless changing something shits the bed, lol)

>>58807130
>Linux is the best! Issues? There are no issues with Linux! Anything you hear to the contrary is FUD spread by MS shills! Absolutely everyone should use Linux! Windows should die!
>You want to do something on Linux and can't? SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP! Linux is for "advanced" users like myself who are free 18 hours a day every day to get their OS working! If that's not you, you should go back to Windows!

Really makes you think.

>>58806128
>amateur indie """musician"""
>professional
No.

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>>58807003
OP, get your shit together. It just werks™.
Never used or installed Ardour before, seems fine to me. Your problem is, Ubuntu is 'tarded. Use a real Linux.

Every OS is crappy tb.h

>>58811096
Forgot time. Took me about 30 seconds to type 'pacman -S ardour' and install.

>>58811087
This. Professional musicians all exclusively use Linux

>>58811150
No they don't. They all use Macs.

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>>58806128
Just go back to Windows m9. Linux is not meant for desktops.

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>>58806925
>already got like atleast a dozen "Ubuntu found an error and crashed do u wanna report it lol?" boxes
I don't mind ubuntu much, but I can't deny that I've had those come up often for no good reason. No other distro ever gives me such crap. Maybe a single kwin crash notification in opensuse, but that's about it.

>>58811072
Nice strawmans.

>>58806925
>being too dumb to use the actual package manager

>>58806142
Professionals don't use JACK

>>58807003
Literally works out of box in fedora

>>58811296
>every day on /g/
>"strawman"

>be winbabby
>want to try out linux
>ask /g/ what should I install
>some tell me to install gentoo
>some tell me to install manjaro
>some tell me to install fedora
>kevin tells me to install solus
>they all tell me to avoid ubuntu
>install ubuntu anyway
>it sucks
>wtf I hate linux now