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Hey guys, I was told you are the experts. Looking for something around €300 for uni work, and the GPU has to be capable of Dota 2. Should not exceed 15.6".
Best I found so far are T4xx or similar with Quadro NVS5400m, but I think that might be a bit slow for Dota. Are there cheap/good models with faster cards?
Or, if there are not, does someone here have this GPU and can confirm if and how well Dota 2 runs? I can't use older benchmarks because the engine changed a lot.

>>58799876

Because it's the second time I pull up this general, I get to post the first question.

Is there anything besides tlp that can make battery life longer?

>>58799888

As I remember, T420 has an nvidia that can run GTA V

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x201 masterrace reporting in

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Who else comfy with their X40?

>max RAM
>SSD
>new Wifi card (which I can't put into power saving mode for some reason REEEEEE ATHEROS YOU CHINKS)

It's good shit. Plenty fast for browsing, runs Open Arena and Tribes 2 and Dwarf Fortress like a champ, etc. With a new chink extended battery pack I get 10-14 hours battery life, and I will get more as soon as I figure out my Wifi card's power savings issue.

Does the T420 keyboard fits in the X220T?
I read a guy in reddit saying that both keyboards where the same model, but I don't believe him.
I need confirmation.

Im repairing a businessman X250.

What is some thinkpad tier software i must install on it?

>>58800118
Like the extra software needed.

I have a x220 with Debian, is it possible to call via the gsm module?

Reminder that Lenovo is in Shenzen, Peoples Republic of China.

are laptop coolers an meme or do they actually work?

>>58800118
keylogger
VNC

>>58800732
They work, but unless you're having heat issues they are a meme. If you are having heat issues get a lap desk or put the thing on a table or desk.

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>buy a T440

>entire front bezel is a fucking sticker


Christ I knew classic was better, but STICKER?

>>58800747
Welcome to chinkpads.

>>58800747
Do you expected magnesium?

>>58800763
this

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>>58800685
This.

>>58800954
The Macbook Pro Retina 2015 doesn't have this problem.

>>58800986
kekd

>>58800747
>>58800763
>>58800954
I've seen too many Chinese videos on liveleak.

>>58800118
Well its done, i hope his company doesn't do software audit on personal laptops.
Is software audit a thing in mexico?

>>58800738
Not a great idea to fuck around with someone in the land of you fuck with me i kill you and tacos.

>>58800452
the 3G shit it came bundle with? nah

you need another UMTS card

>>58801262
can you recommend one and/or do you know compatible software? Got none yet, WiFi+msata ssd, are there gsm+WiFi cards? thanks for your help

>>58800012
They are the same

>>58799937
Any idea which nvidia card would that be? Could that be the NVS5400m?
A friend of mine needs this, so I really want to make sure it is fast enough for his Dota2 addiction.

>>58801308
Thanks. Will look for used T420 keyboards.

>>58801298
search for any Huawei mPCIe card, that have Voice support

and yes you need to mod your BIOS

>>58801418
Thanks! Installed a modified BIOS for my atheros wifi-card already.

>>58801262
>>58801459
hey idiot, did you tell him its not possible to initialize the interfaz on linux for the Thinkpad 3G modems because of QMI?

also voice calling is not possible afaik

>>58801323
T420 has NVS 4200m as an option. The T430 has the 5400m, so you should probably go with that just to be safe. The 4200m isn't a very impressive card, it's only about on par with Ivy Bridge integrated graphics.

>>58801715
Hmm, so the 5400m is the fastest I can get in a Thinkpad without getting expensive latest plastic gen?
Thanks, I guess I have to take it then.

>>58801774
You can look for a W520 or W530 which have better CPU and GPU options, but that'll likely exceed your budget considering those machines still go for $400+ even in the US.

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So I maxed out the RAM on my x201t to 8GB. Performance seems to be about the same desu but I went from 6GB to 8GB because I was using 90% of my physical RAM on a daily basis. Ah the joys of using a million Chrome tabs/windows and Telegram (which somehow uses 400MB on telegram.exe).

Things coming in the mail: replacement pen

Things I should get later: replacement battery, possibly OEM or chink off eBay.

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thoughts on this machine/price?

>>58801941
Ask for which SSD.

>>58801950
according to http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X201s

>128GB SSD SATA Samsung MMCRE28G

were there other options not listed here?

>>58801941
Great deal..

>>58801963
That doesnt mean its the one it will be using but anyway its a really good deal.

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>>58801941
rarepad

snag that shit my man

>>58802016
>>58801976
>>58801972
>>58801950
thanks niggas. sent a text. just noticed the ad is 2 months old. we'll see.

>>58801833
Nice machine. It's kinda understandable that the performance didn't increase all that much with 8GB or RAM. That's a different story on Core i CPUs. These benefit from Dual Channel a lot.

>>58802095
Don't forget to meet in a public place or in front of a police/fire station!

>>58802016
Those slim hinges are so fucking sexy. Shame they don't build them like this anymore.

>>58801792
Thanks mate, I will check it out, but it seems you are right. Quick search says most of them are 450+ and not much faster, if at all.

Do you guys overclock your Thinkpads?
I found this guy who got his 5400m up to 900+MHz in a T530.
Is the cooling solution of the T430 comparable/good enough to get some decent gains on the GPU?

Why don't you own a BMW thinkpad?
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kelvin-grove/other-parts-accessories/lenovo-thinkpad-bmw-dis-sss-ond-more/1137993538

I'm looking for a college companion. I could get a pretty good deal at a X260, but I'm a bit afraid of the size. On the other hand, I don't want to lug a brick around all day every day.

Is the 12.5" big enough for comfy programming?

>>58802273
>https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kelvin-grove/other-parts-accessories/lenovo-thinkpad-bmw-dis-sss-ond-more/1137993538
why the fuck was painted?

>>58802361
maybe because that particular laptop were used for car diagnostics and shit

>>58802361
It's probably been sold as a kit where you get a laptop preloaded with diagnostics software and the adaptors to connect to a car. It's hard to be sure since the photos are shit, and it's beaten up, but my guess is some third party has customised thinkpads in-house to flog off as specialist equipment. Probably even getting second hand ones like we do and selling them for thousands to mechanics who don't know the difference.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/272544970817?_mwBanner=1

Just bought this X230 and a separate SSD for it. Ayy

Decided to install ubuntu 16.10 on my t420 today. Been messing around with lightweight distros for a while, but I'm pretty impressed with this.

>>58802358
It's not so much about the screen size. The X260 comes with resolutions high enough to show a lot of text on screen. If you don't mind small text you'll be fine. I'd go for a T series though because the screen is big enough to work with it without UI scaling, even at 1080p.

>>58802515
Why not 16.04? I always go for LTS versions.

>>58802538
I end up reinstalling OS's often enough that it shouldn't really matter for me. Though I am liking Ubuntu enough that I could end up switching to LTS.

I paid 110 on eBay for a slightly used in appearance think pad w510
Stats
>Intel Core i7 720QM @ 1.60ghz
>4 gigs of ram
>1024 nvidia quadro fx 880m
>Threw in A samsung 850 evo 500gigs i had
>1080p screen

What kind of ram could i get and can i upgrade the processor?

>>58802403
>>58802432
Yeah, I see that.
Gladly that there's thinkpad doing heavy work and not being in the hands of anime addicted virgins.

>>58802689
Should go up to 8GB, maybe 16 if you have four slots? I'm not sure about the W510 but it's like that on the W520. The CPU might be upgradable but you've already got a quadcore so it wouldn't be much of a difference.

>>58802729
t. lenovo chink manlet

>>58802777
Like what kind of ram... I've had problems in the past with ram on my t420
>buy new ram
>put in ram
>computer no boot
>try several different kinds
>none boot......

I have a T410 that I purchased for $65.

Runs great, excepting the battery life.

I'd like to upgrade it to be able to play some newer games. I am of the understanding that this requires me to get an external, dedicated GPU. I am also aware that I may need to upgrade the CPU, since its chokehold precludes any good gayming.

Anyone has suggestions on where to start in terms of researching this, or specifically, product recommendations?

>>58802806
DDR3-1066 to be safe, but most DDR3-1333 sticks should work too. Whatever you can find more easily.

>>58802782
My first computer was an actual IBM computer :^)

>>58802141

I have the i7 version, it's not the highest end i7 but it's an i7 with muh hyperthreading. It helps a lot, with the SSD I put in it.

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>>58801833

>.exe

>>58802806

check "unofficial maximum memory specs" on thinkwiki. try to buy the exact ram that they used, or at least one with a serial that is as close as possible.

thinkpads can be fucking picky about mixing and matching too, you're best off buying a matched set. I have some sticks that will each work individually, but the machine just gives me those faggot beeps when I try to use them together

>>58802994

Winblows master mace

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Hey, I'm looking for a quick rundown on replacement panels for a T420s. Can I follow the exact same guides as for a T420, or is there something that's going to catch me up (different thickness, weird cable routing etc)?

Mostly I just care about viewing angles and black levels, 900p is fine. EE by trade so I'm not worried about getting my hands dirty, but at the same time I'm not really trying to burn all my nights and weekends on it. Money's not a huge issue, anything under about ~$150 all in should be fine.

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>>58799947
>poorfag, got an i5-520m x201 because the x220 was $50 more
>unironically enjoyed the shit out of its keyboard, trackpad, clitmouse, cute 16:10 display, durable design, easy repairability, and 10+ hour battery life with GAHNOO PLUS LANUCKS
>completely fall in love with the laptop
>CPU was overheating with VMs because of the 7 year old thermal paste and shit tier previous owner (smoker, inside was literally caked with cig ash), but idled at 50C
>no problem, ordered new paste and fan for $12 combined
>fan got bent in shipping, didn't notice, screwed it all in
>temps drop like a rock to 40C idle and maxing out after 14 hours of P95 to just 92C
>fan bend pulls one of the screws out after a week, screw drops to back of device and fries the fan power pins
>FAN_ERROR, won't boot
>in a panic order a new motherboard
>it's an x201t motherboard because I didn't double check
>install requires that I nearly destroy screen cable, permanently damaging it
>it overheats too, even with new thermal paste
>return motherboard, parents just order me an x240 because they're sick of me repairing such an "old laptop"
>find an x201s i7-640LM motherboard for just $35, compatible with big fan, cooler than the T board
>mfw too poor to order it now
It's been a bad 3 weeks, anons.
I just want my x201 back.

TrackPoint is useless and you guys are retards.

>tfw fell for the thinkbrick meme

Why is the t420 so fucking heavy for a 14" laptop?

>>58803325
Is it heavy or are you some kind of woman?

>>58799876
>Chinese gov wants to spy on 4chan user
>Chinese gov makes thinkpad generall and keep it alive forever
>Chinese gov suggest buying used thinkpad

No ty i like my mcbook

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Why did IBM decided to go for multidirectional pressure sensor for TrackPoint instead of traditional analog sticks that have actual physical movement and tactile feedback, like the ones in psp, ds or even some mid 2000-s cell phones? Sure, they didn't have such miniature technology back in 80's, but the TrackPoint barely progressed it's technology for 27 years already.

>>58803356
Security through obscurity. It is fine for americans or europeans to be spied by Chinese government instead of NSA and Inter/pol/.

Should I just set computrace off permanently?

>>58803388
Trackpoint is perfect. Don't mess with it.

>>58803441
Yes. BLOW DA FUSE

>>58803388
But analog sticks are operated by thumbs and trackpoint is for index finger, maybe that's the difference.

>>58803388
An analog stick requires more physical travel than the trackpoint, which just requires pressure in a direction instead of actual movement.

Additionally, pointer fingers are less nimble than thumbs.

>>58803530
Put a joystick where middle trackpoint button is, so it will be reachable by both thumbs.

>>58803563
Then you lose the middle button/scrolling functionality, and you still have the problem of more motion putting more stress on the hand. Either way, analog sticks have more physical components, which means more points of failure.

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Fuck it. Make a trackball with laser sensors.

>>58803610
I miss cleaning build up from the rollers.

>>58803085
desu sell the t420s it, buy a t520 and upgrade it to the B156HW01 V.4 1080p panel. Its a direct drop on and despite being a TN panel its one of the best TN panels in a laptop. Has a wide gamut (95%) and great contrast ratio. When calibrated its suitable for photo editing. Viewing angles are good too for a TN

guys, is it normal the battery wear level to go up ?
as far as i understand with batteryinfoview - 79% means the % of the original capacity left. It was 79% a couple of days ago, 82,6% yesterday, and 85% today. Is this normal behaviour ?

What I should look into if I want to buy a new keyboard on eBay for a W520?
How I avoid buying fake chink shit?

>>58803785
Try recalibrating it. Let it run to literally dead 0%, as in can't even boot to BIOS 0%. Immediately after that's done, plug it in and charge it to 100%, as full as possible. batteryinfoview might be able to automate this like TLP does, I'm not sure.

>>58803969
i'm trying it manually, thx
lenovo power manager could do this, but doesn't open on battery since i swapped ssd to the new one. iirc the seller said it was used primarily on docking station, maybe the battery doesn't really know what's going on.

>>58803856
all thinkpad keyboards are chink shit from one factory

>>58802806
I had this problem, solution was to switch the two ram sticks around and that, for whatever reason, fixed it.

>>58803388
Track-point is more precise for me than a joystick. that pressure sensitivity gives me so much more control. The little joystick the travel is pretty linear. The control on a joystick always feels a little jerky to me.

I want to split my 120gb SSD in two partitions, Lubuntu (ext4) and Seven (NTFS).

Anyone familiar with Linux/Windows dual booting on solid state drives? I heard there could be some issues.

>>58804685
It's for a X220 btw.

>>58804685
I've never heard of issues and I've never experienced any with dual boot on my SSD. You should install Windows first btw so you can let the Lubuntu installer set up GRUB for you.

>>58804414
>this
though an analog stick wouldn't have the problem of phantom movement

I feel that the X series is what a laptop was always meant to be. I'm going on my fourth one, (1) X220, (3) X201's, the third X201 I just ordered. Then I have my colossal W520. Such a combination of greatness, a middleweight T series I won't need.

>>58804984
True. My X220 is holding up pretty good and it's truly ultraportable. If I were to replace my current Desktop I'd probably get a W530 or P50. I'm a classic keyboard advocate but on a workstation I wouldn't use the included keyboard that much and the additional performance would be worth the drawbacks.

anyone happen to know the difference in battery life between t460 and x260? which one has longer battery?

>>58805184
They both have the same potential battery capacity. I'd expect a better battery life out of the X260 if just because of the smaller screen.

>>58805206
isn't that difference small?

>>58805226
Lenovo gives an expected battery life of 18 hours for the T460 and 25 for the X260. Obviously that difference will be smaller if you're doing anything intensive but it's still fairly significant.

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Can someone give me a rundown on ThinkPad laptops? I'm so confused. There seem to be a large number of different brands of the ThinkPad, but with unmemorable names. How many ThinkPads are there, what are ones worth looking into, and ones to avoid. Is there a ThinkPad purchase infographic?

>>58805260
>re there, what are o
just avoid the 40 series like the x240 t440 etc

Hello /g/entlemen, I'm having some issues with CPU temps on my T420, specifically temps under windows. On my Linux install, the CPU idles at aroud 40 celsius, but on 10 Enterprise, it idles at around 70 celsius. CPU is running at around 25% with the NT Kernel using about 10-15%. Why might Windows be flogging the hell out of the CPU, when Linux handles it just fine.

>inb4 "Just use Linux", Sorry, I'm required to use windows for the course i'm currently doing

>inb4 "I'd just like to interject for a moment..." Stallmancucks, just leave.

>>58805260
what about reading the OP?

>>58805260
X series - smaller 12.5", portable, slightly less you can do to modify them (soldered CPU among other things). Tablet versions exist.
T series - Well rounded, made to be ideal to work, still quite portable but it's not the highest design priority. Come in 14" (T4-- models) and 15" (T5--)
W (and P) series - Mobile workstations. Come with high end performance parts like high end CPU (you can put one in the T series anyway if you want) and workstation graphics. Tend to have better screens and shit, not quite as portable.
Other series are mostly shit.

X220, X230, T420 and T430 are probably the most memed right now.

I want something more modern than the really old thinkpads, as I want more power and have a big budget. I like the build quality, aesthetic and general toughness of the 420 tier ones (last one i owned was 420). are modern thinkpads still good (as in 2016)? is gnu/linux still easy to use on them?

>>58805253
thank you

>>58805292
>buying a thinkpad and not running linux
lmao kys

>>58805319
Someone should make an infographic on the naming system.

>>58805408
Literally running Linux as well as Windows. Need Windows for my course work. Some of us aren't actually NEETs and actually aspire to have a future.

Are thinkpads good to make servers out of?
I have an X201

>tfw no thinkpad retro until october
why even live desu

battery = built-in ups.
nic = intel, reliable.
decent, as long as you have a cpu that does vt-x and supports 8gb+ of ram.
slap on a hypervisor and go ham with vms.

>>58805413
I might look at throwing something together. I think we get enough dumb and repetitive questions to justify it.

So are 2016 ThinkPads good? I haven't owned a thinkpad since 2008 and my old MacBook finally died (it was a gift, I'm not a macfag) so it's time for a new laptop.

Does anybody use an eGPU with their Thinkpad here? Want to hook one up to my X230 but I'm unsure if I should go for AMD or Nvidia, I've heard that Nvidia have better compability but the RX460 is a better value card than the 1050 for 1080p games.

Thinking of picking up an X220 Tablet for university note taking. Anyone had experiences with one? Seems quite easy to use, would likely use it with one note.

My old shitty AMD E2 laptop broke its screen when i wiped it off with a LCD spray cleaner.
I told some friends about it and one thing led to another and I got offered a brand new T460s for 650$.
Apparently some company going bankrupt is selling their inventory.
In Denmark the price of a new T460s is 1700$, so this is a deal i can't say no to.

I'm concerned that there has been alot of Linux bug reports on the trackpad, lid closure and such, so i was just wondering if anyone is running any Linux distro on the T460s. Have you been able to resolve the bugs and can you use the card reader?

>>58805441

My flatmate had a x220 out of sheer memery, and he's been so happy with for three months.

But now he says that win10 is slow as fuck. He uses Matlab, dropbox and google docs, and seems like every single input takes a minute to get a response.

Why could this happen? is there anything he can do?

(inb4 install gentoo, or run ccleaner. He needs to use windows, and he behaves well when it comes to take care of computers)

>>58806115
>Windows 10
Found the problem

>all x220 and t420s in my area are $300

fuck

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The screen on my T420 doesn't stay still.
I think the hinges are loose.
How do you revert it back?

>>58806618
Buy new hinges.

>>58806618
https://ventilatorxor.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/fixing-loose-thinkpad-screen-lid-hinge/

>>58806126

Yeah well, I told him the same thing. But he needs it. And a lot of people on /tpg/ have win10 on their thinkpads so sure someone can chime in, in an non-shitposting manner.

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First time poster here. I've read the buyer's guide, and can't really decide on what I want.

My budget is about 400$, and I'm planning to use my laptop mostly to do work, but also some >gayming from time to time. I was thinking about buying the T420, but the specs seem very close to my pic related Dell Inspiron. Would anyone have a better suggestion?

>>58807017
Forgot to mention, ram isn't a problem. I got a 8 GB stick in my current laptop I can put in the new one.

https://thinkshit.neocities.org
I've put together a guide on differences between different models and generations. There's probably a fair bit of redundancy with existing resources but oh well. I still need to fill in some extra details when I feel like it, but if anyone has feedback I'd be glad to hear it.

>>58807017
The main things you stand to gain are a better processor, better screen and better build quality. If you want to play games consider a T430 if you're just getting a model without a dedicated GPU since the HD4000 should be worth it if you're not using anything better.

>>58807206
Unsoldered CPU means you can remove it and replace it, right?

Thanks for the guide though, it was much easier to understand than the OP guide

>>58807318
I'm probably getting that, since the laptops with dedicated cards under 500$ in the US cost over 700 in Canada.

>>58807335
>Unsoldered CPU means you can remove it and replace it, right?
Yes.

>I'm probably getting that, since the laptops with dedicated cards under 500$ in the US cost over 700 in Canada.
If 15 inches is fine then you could consider a W520 or W530, the GPU will be comparable to the dedicated GPU the T series gets iirc, though you may want to check benchmarks.

>>58807643
>W520 or 530

They might sell for 200 used in the US, but they're about 700 to 1000 in Canada. I'll try to dig up a deal though.

>>58807665
Right, I went to check leaf ebay for prices but didn't realise it was just showing US listings anyway. Just going off listings within Canada, a T430 is sounding like a good bet, though it'd probably still be well worth it to get something from across the border.

>>58807818
I got one in my local Best Buy apparently, I'm gonna look there. There is a guy selling W530s for 400$, but he's in Ottawa and I'm in Montral. Thanks for the tips.

guide to replace x230 thermal paste?
first time ive had a machine built like this and i dont want to mess around with it too much

>>58799988
I'm comfy with my X61s

A (supposedly) genuine 81+ Battery T420s T420si T430s T430si 42T4847 42T4844 shipping from china for 40 euros incl shipping ? too good to be true ?

also, my exact model number isn't listed, but there should be no problem ,right ?

>>58808058
Find the hardware maintenance manual, then find the entry in it with instructions for replacing the heat sink assembly.

AMD wanted to update the graphics drivers in my W500, so I went for it. It turned my display black. This happened the last time I went for them two years ago, so I regret eveything now.

I know this is probably more fitted for sqt but do I have any recourse besides forcing the PC in bios to use integrated gfx (intel) over discrete (AMD)? I got my drivers through Windows Update, this recent update was from my forgetting to disable AMD bloatware from starting on PC boot.

>>58808469
Never mind, automatic restore point made Jan 31st, at best I'd updated programs between then and now. Going for it.

PSA: if it ain't broke don't fix it; only trust switcheable graphics specific drivers for your switcheable graphics.

>>58808469
>Updating trough windows update
Why the fuck you thouht that was a good idea?

This is one of the reason most people turn them off.

Boot in safemode and do a system restore and or uninstall them.

>>58803178
Jesus. I hope things turn out okay.

>>58808598
Sorry, I think you misunderstood- I got the appropriate drivers through Windows Update. While the AMD stuff that fucked me was also included, I could've disabled them- the AMD addons are at fault. And I have disabled Windows Update. In fact I haven't updated since batch updates dropped (using 7), though I wish to when I'm more informed on telemetry removal with them.

Yeah, doing a system restore. Dunno how to u install them specifically, or if they overwrote anything, and this way I don't have to possibly deal with Windows Update again to get my old drivers back. Cheers.

>>58799925
Powertop

first time poster here, i wanted your opinoin....

is this good?.....
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-2-in-1-15-6-4k-ultra-hd-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-940mx-256gb-ssd-pearl-black/5579132.p?skuId=5579132

16g RAM
i7
SSD
4K
HDMI output
8hr battery

it'll be used as my travel entertainment system
any other suggestions?

What battery life are people getting on the X220T? I get 2-3 hours or so with a battery that sticks out of it. Not sure if I should improve things on the software or hardware side.

>>58808659
Not informed enough to answer your question, but I believe that model can get a slice battery as well, for extra battery life.

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>>58806764

>a lot of people on /tpg/ have win10 on their thinkpads

>/g/
>2017
>Win 10

>>58808888
Checked to fuck m8

>>58808888
I have Win7 and Xubuntu, can I get my membership card now or do I have to completely free myself from wangblows?

>>58806764
>needs it
Elaborate on that? I had a neighbour update to W10 from 8.1 on his computer, after which he ran into some hardcore registry problems.

Will an x1 carbon run Linux well?

>>58808654

That is a modern consumer laptop that costs $1,100 brand new.
These threads mostly focus on ~2008-2011 era business-class laptops that were ~$3000 when new but now cost <$300.

Many of us have been burned by consumer-grade laptops and their crappy build quality over the years and will now only buy business grade laptops as a response.
The standard meme suggestion is to just get a t420 or x220. They feel great but won't have the horsepower that one has if you really want to play xxx_Modern_Welfare_xxx on the train

>>58807818
Found this one on Ebay, about 600$ with shipping. Should be good.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-W530-Laptop-Quad-Core-i7-2-60-GHZ-8GB-180GB-SSD-Windows-7-Pro-64-/272545674622?hash=item3f74fcf57e:g:l7IAAOSw2xRYUqKG

is there any point in having the second video card completely disabled from BIOS ?

>>58809142
Perhaps save some power from powering it and its fan? Just speculating, I'm not that good in laptop stuff.

Anyone else have creaking from their palm rest?

I've got a T520. Beauty of a machine with the FHD screen and all but the right side of the palm rest creaks every time I rest my hands on it to type. I'm not sure if I'm just stuck with that forever or what but it's quite annoying.

has anyone used these http://www.ebay.com/itm/MR15-Dual-Micro-SD-Cards-to-Mini-PCIe-adapter-M-Factors-/322172742518?hash=item4b02fdeb76:g:MZYAAOxy9dVTkeab before? is it word it

>>58808659
check how much capacity your battery has

>>58799988
I want one. What SSD do you reccomend?

>>58805896
Never really used One Note since I don't use Windows, but it's pretty pleasant to write with in Krita. A bit difficult to write small, but maybe you could abuse zooming to be more space efficient.

>>58802879
But let me guess, the one you use now is Chinese?

>>58806115
Could be "Windows Rot". Not sure how you fix this besides reinstalling, which is not what I am recommending. I would honestly say to anyone I care about that they should just use GNU, but I guess I don't know your situation or his. I suppose it would be worth checking temps, memory/CPU usage during slowdowns, if anything weird is running in the background, and I think Windows has something called "Event Viewer" or something that should have info logged about any major issues.

>>58803388
Trackpoint is way better than a joystick.

With a trackpoint pressure = cursor speed, simple as that - you're not even thinking about acceleration. Push harder to go faster, and in order to change direction you just apply pressure for a different direction - the nub is so small you don't even move your finger. With a joystick in order to reverse direction you need to roll the whole joystick from pointing in one direction to another, and as you do this it's still performing acceleration of some sort. You overshoot and you have to roll it back again. The whole thing requires knowing the tension on the spring and exactly where you hold the joystick should be pointing in order to have a certain speed, which very often isn't linear.

>>58806115
maybe he just needs an ssd?

>>58808169
I just got one of those as well, in great shape too. I'm going to rejuvenate it soon.

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>>58809969
Capacity is around 80% last I checked. Not bad enough to explain the poor battery life. I had heard of people getting over ten hours on ThinkPads. Not sure why but the info isn't filling in correctly anymore. NixOS might be missing some packages I'm used to.

>>58799925
You can undervolt your CPU as well. Also unloading kernel modules for devices will (sometimes) power them down. I usually unload my onboard ethernet and modem devices, saves some battery life.

Which one is a better deal at the same price, X220 with an i7 2620M or x230 with an i5 3210M?

>>58810335
Are you running unstable?

>>58804799
It would once it wears, or if it is being used on a non-level surface...

>>58805822
They're shit actually. Lenovo has gotten rid of most of the features that Thinkpad users are after, they kept the name though.

>>58808654
It's a piece of shit. What's the point even?

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Boyo,
in the used thinkpads category what's the best I can look for some photo editing?
(lightroom, photoshop and illustrator)

>>58810451
x220 with i7. May be less power efficient, but has more functions on the chip, and on top of that, you're getting the better keyboard.

>>58810856

x62 from chinese modders at 51nb.com looks pretty sweet

wouldn't know about the modern crap

>>58810856
You want one with a good IPS screen, which is basically impossible without a good mod. X330 mod is probably your best bet (XPS screen into x230 chassis).

>>58810856
X60 with IPS.

>>58810034
I got the 64GB Kingspec. Cost more than the damn computer. I wouldn't recommend the Atheros wifi card, having issues with power management there.

>>58805825
If you want to use internal display chose nvidia but if you want to work on external monitor you should chose amd one

>>58811456
>>58811568
Should I do these mod myself or can I acquire them already modded?

>>58811434
I'm guessing these ching chongs offer such modded models but I can't into ping pong so I don't really know where to look

Sup guys first time /g/ poster. So where I work I can get new thinkpads for cheaper than normal (roughly 40% off). After reading the buyers guide it says the max you should be paying is 500. Would it be worth it to buy the higher end T series thinkpad for 1k when its normally listed at 1600? Or am I still getting bamboozled on the price? I don't really want to shop around for used models. Thoughts?

What's a SMALLER thinkpad than the x220/230 with good performance?
X201? X130? What should I get? I need something more portable/lighter than a X230 (which I have).

Just wanted you guys here to know that I ended
up getting a 15" 2014 MacBook Pro instead.
I wanted a ThinkPad, but I didn't want to be an
inferior laptop owner and these are clearly the
better option anyway and for just a little more than
what I was planning on paying anyhow.

On to better horizons. Enjoy your shit-tier laptops
and may God Bless your shitty computers.

>>58802643
>reinstalling OS's
Literally why? Just put Debian on there and forget about ever changing OS's again.

Found a T410 for sale, i5 2.4ghz 8gb ram and 500gb hdd, win7 pro installed

Is $320 too much for that?

>>58805260
PUT THINKWIKI IN THE STICKY
PUT THINKWIKI IN THE STICKY

>>58811407
What kind of functions do you mean exactly? So far I've been more interested in a x220 anyway. Also you can swap the keyboard so there's that

>>58811809
I think they're shilling another blog for ad revenue.

>>58805273
Just swapped my tochpad on the x240, now it's like a x250.
The fix isn't that hard.

>>58811693

If you're in some third world country (Aus, NZ, Canada, Brazil etc) thats an okay price.

If you're in the US that's not. You're almost always better off just buying a stripped down pad with a valid Win7Pro COA but no HDD or battery and upgrading it yourself. At 500 GB there's a *chance* that it's a modern drive, but spinning rust still sucks ass, and you should just assume that any battery on the used market has <10% life remaining, regardless of what the seller says.

Pick up a stripped model for like $100 and go to town on it. It's pretty unlikely that the previous owner made the EXACT same price/performance tradeoffs that you would have made and installed 2017 parts in it. Literally the only thing you need to pay attention to is the CPU, since I'm pretty sure those aren't upgradable on most pads

>>58811682
X201s or X201. The i5 in the X201 is good enough for modern day average load computing, and the i7 in the s version is equal performance while being a full 10 watts cooler. Slap the X201s motherboard into an X201 and put the X201 fan onto it and you'll never worry about thermal throttling again.

>>58812004
My X40 is fine for modern day average load computing.

>x200 for $80
>Battery is FUBAR
>Generic charger
>Looks good, HDD might be fucked but who cares, im using a SSD
>2GB RAM

Worth it?

http://imgur.com/a/O8ntb
should I install a fhd screen in my t420?

>t420 with 9 cell
>people say they get 6 hours
>only get 4 if I baby it

>>58812376
Only if it has P8800

>>58803178
Bruv did you get compensation for the bent fan? That shit sucks so hard, I would be on the verge of crying from my having to suffer from someone else's negligence.

>>58800685
Fuck. I thought Thinkpads were American.

>>58811888
just get the x230 and slap the x220 keyboard on it. You are getting slightly improved IPC slightly improved battery life and a much better iGPU

>>58812924
Not since 2005.

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My current laptop is dying ( pic related ).

I want to replace it with the cheapest thing that fulfills these criteria-

15" screen
will boot quickly once I install my (sata) SSD.
Plays normal video smoothly (I don't need to run weaboo h2x65748 11 bit cartoons)
Won't be horrifically sluggish when compiling.
Battery life at about 5 hours normal use.
More durable than this piece of crap ideapad.
Plays nice with linux (of course)

What device am I actually after?

>>58801941
great deal, but still old as shit

>>58813021
Thinkpad x200 15'' mod

>>58813021
t520

>>58800986
>drop 2015 rMBP from 6 meters high
>chassis bent, board probably broken
try doing the same on a T-series ThinkPad

>>58800685
Reminder that the Think division is in Morrisville, NC and the Yamato Lab in Japan

>>58812924
They're partially american. Check the digital signature subject on their drivers, they're signed by the american and japanese branches of Lelnovo.

Out of a X230, dell E6430 or a Elitebook 2570p, which would be the best for running Hackintosh smoothly?

>>58813369
i'm not sure about the dell but the others have WLAN whitelists so replacing the built-in adapter with a Broadcom one will be a PITA. You need a BCM wlan card to run OS X without major issues.

>>58813338
>digital signature subject on their drivers, they're signed by the american and japanese branches of Lelnovo
That doesn't make them American though.

>>58813444
that means the software testing was done in the american branch.

Moving the entire Think division from the US to China would be expensive though.

W530 hard drives are 2.5, right? I'm thinking about directly switching my old laptop's HDD onto my new one, and giving the Windows 10 infected hard drive it comes with to my sister along with my old lap.

>>58813588
no, w530 has 3,5" drives

>>58813890
fug

>>58801941
Not that great of a deal. People wildly overpay for the X201s for some reason, it's really not that much nicer than the later X201. Source: I've owned both.

>>58813338
Yep. Just like Honda, Toyota, et al

Any idea on cooling system of T420? What temperatures can I expect on an NVS5400m on full load?

>>58814255
t420 has nvs nvs 4200m dgpu

>>58814039
1440x900 though

>>58812732
P8600.
And HDD cover is missing.

But free shipping.

>>58813558
>that means the software testing was done in the american branch
No it doesn't, it just means they signed the files.

Lenovo shit is 100% made in PRC now.

>>58814450
and so does apple, dell and hp

>>58814383
HDD covers are cheap on ebay and aliexpress. Some of them even include the caddy and the rubber rails

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>>58803178
it'll be alright, anon

>>58814350
Yeah, that's a nicety. Replacing the panel with the AFFS panel from the tablet version is even better, though.

>>58803178
You've seen some shit anon. You have my entire sympathy.

>>58814469
Apple makes some products in the USA now because the Fedgov won't use chink computers any more. Dell and HP have always made certain products here.

$340 for a W530 with an i7 3720QM sound reasonable or am I getting shafted?

>>58815266
Depends entirely on the rest of the specs. If it's the ebay listing I think it is, then it's reasonable just because of the K2000m. The lack of the a FHD screen is the main downside though, so up to you if you need it, I'd assume it could be upgraded later if you really wanted.

Found an used x220 i5 at $100. Battery is original 6cells and acpi -i displays 88% max charge Wich lasts 4 to 6 hours with tlp. I wanna spend some money on it, but honestly I dunno what should I look for. Spending as much as I did on the lap on a IPS panel or 16gb of RAM just doesn't feel right.

What do, /g/?

>>58815498

Get a high quality """genuine""" 9 cell for like $40. Look for one that has all the stickers in the right place. It's still almost certainly a copy and has cheapish sanyo cells, but at least if all the stickers are right you know that they put some effort into making it a good copy.

t. have two of those ~$40 ish ones and am very happy

>>58799876

>ThinkPad X200
>LibreBoot
>SanDiskSSD
>Parabola linux
>Gnome
>Iridium browser

I shit you not. This thing creaks when I scroll down the catalog. Is just like the page was making actual friction against the screen.

Why???

>>58815671
Coil whine, get a new mobo if it bothers you.

>>58813021
see >>58813122
ignore >>58813095

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>>58815266
I guess it's this one?

I'd say it's a great deal.

Anyone tried the xx20 keyboard on xx30 series conversion? Is there more to it than the info Thinkwiki provides?

>>58799876
Is it safe to leave my thinkpad with an SSD unpowered for 2 months?

>>58817096
don't fall for the xx20 keyboard meme

>>58816260
Basically, but it was literally $340, not $365. With a K2000M as well.

Wish I actually had $400 right now to blow on it.

Is there any better mother boards I can jam in my w510 thatll give me a cooler running machine with more upgrade ability?

>>58817222
i've already used the xx10 style keyboard and i really enjoy the layout to it, I'm just looking for something more up to date

>>58817176
>Is it safe to leave my thinkpad with an SSD unpowered for 2 months?
it should be safe. Maybe with early SSDs it was true that they could be damaged and experience data loss if you left them unpowered for exteneded periods of time, but the SSD in your thinkpad should be fine if left off for a few months.

Leave the battery around 40% and turn it off before you leave it though

I replaced the screen on my T430, but now the lid switch does not function, anyone know how to fix this? I assumed it was magnetic and did the magnet test in bios but it doesnt turn the screen off.

Halp.

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Finally finished setting up all my hardware. Thanks for all the help, /tpg/

>>58817833
the battery is already pretty fucked anyway, so i'll get a chink battery when i get back

Just got a x301 for 120$ howd i do

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Jesus fucking christ I'm so excited. This is my first thinkpad too. How do you guys deal with the wait?

>>58799876
I've got an opportunity to buy a new in box T450 for $520 AUD (400 USD), with an i5-5200u, 4gb RAMand a 500GB HDD. Does this seem like a good price? Obviously I'd need to spend a bit of money to upgrade the RAM but I've already got a spare SSD so storage isn't an issue. Would you guys recommend purchasing this Thinkpad?

>>58818829
Excellent price. I'd jump on that shit asap. Used T440 are still going for around that price, even.

>T440
>T450
chinktops, why bother?

>>58818797
by not spending money frivolously

>>58818829
You can get a similarly specced one from the US shipped over for much the same price, but since it's new and not coming half-way round the Earth it's especially good. I don't suppose there's more where it came from?

>>58818797
>How do you guys deal with the wait?
By continuing to do research into laptops all the while till you start fretting about whether you made the right decision. For example are you sure an extra $100 for a W530 wouldn't have been a better choice?

What's a new laptop that has the build quality and design of old ThinkPads? I don't really care about specs beyond at least quad core and SSD, and any reasonable price is ok

>>58819213
If they made something like an older Thinkpad, but with a real keyboard and a nice ARM processor giving 40+ hours of battery...

>>58819227
>ARM processor
yep. because a laptop has to be useless.

>>58818797
You'd have more reason to be excited if the build quality was anything like the old IBM machines,

>>58819213
>any reasonable price is ok
P50.

>>58819265
>>58819227

>P50
>IBM build quality
pick one

>>58819265
Aren't modern ThinkPads garbage? As in build quality isn't nearly what it once was, and Lenovo installs shitware, and the screens are still disappointing?
I've never owned a recent one so correct me if I'm wrong. Specs do sound nice so I may get one of the build quality is still sturdy.

>>58819279
>ThinkPad made after 2006
>IBM build quality
Pick one

>>58819279
The impression I'd gotten was that it was actually reasonable, if just because they had no reason to force it to be compact. Correct me if I'm wrong though, that's mostly from check a few reviews.

>>58819290
Build quality is comparable to other brands I guess, obviously not IBM tier. Shitware shouldn't be a problem because you'll be wiping almost any new laptop. Screens are probably the biggest improvement in new models, but you'll want a more expensive option as always.

>>58819290
Build quality dropped a lot when Lenovo took over and it dropped again when they introduced the Tx30/Xx30 (etc.) line. But still they're pretty good compared to other brands. Screens aren't exactly nice. Even today. Concerning the shitware, this is true. If you're using Windows, you're being spied on. That's a fact.

>>58819304
Pretty much this.

>>58819326
It's reasonable. It's just not as good as IBM. If you've ever used an IBM ThinkPad you'll know. The rollcage is still there but IBM used thicker plastic casing and way stiffer hinges.

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w500 w/ FHD screen

58.33 USD

how'd I do /tpg/

>>58819349
>If you've ever used an IBM ThinkPad you'll know. The rollcage is still there but IBM used thicker plastic casing and way stiffer hinges.
I pulled a T43 out for comparison with my T410. The T43 has hinges as floppy as anything newer that's seen as much use as it, and the panels are certainly don't feel as strong just pressing on them with my fingers.

That said you'd never guess just looking at them that the T410 is meant to be a evolutions above the T43, it's much bulkier, and has bigger bezels around the screen. Really the biggest improvement that I've enjoyed with newer models is that taking them apart is less of a clusterfuck - there's less variety in screw sizes so you're not constantly guessing which size fits where if you lose track. Internal layout feels a bit neater as well, though I might just be imagining it since I haven't really dealt with anything older for a while.

wheres the best place to buy factory new replacement keyboards?

i want a used x220 but dont want craigslist guy dried spunk and Dorito dust in my keyboard

>>58819203
W series pads are actually another $250+ so I decided that the T520 is a good cheap option. Also I don't play games so the Quadro would just be a useless heat generator.

>>58819427
>Core 2 Duo
Pretty bad.

>>58819213
>>58819265
>>58819279
>>58819326
>>58819349
So is it a stupid idea to buy a modern (P50) ThinkPad then? What's a comparably tough laptop?

>>58819528
dont get a thinkpad, it will steal your credit card information

-joe rogan

>>58819203
It's new in box straight from lenovo, dunno specifically where it came from.

>>58819203
No more sorry, Only the one available.

>>58819495
They might be more, but you can be getting a FHD screen with them instead of upgrading, making it an effective $100 difference without the screen you bought. The CPU alone might make over $100 if you flogged it off on ebay, not that you would want to downgrade if you bought it. Regardless, if you're not using it for anything performancy then the T520 is a reasonable purchase.

>>58819528
If the advantages of the very latest hardware are going to be worth it to you, then it'd probably be a reasonable choice, a Dell equivalent might be comparable though. If you don't need a high performance workstation then any of the older thinkpads will be solid, but I don't know that you'll have much luck with new shit. Late model thinkpads are still reasonably solid I guess, just nothing like they used to be.

>>58819579
>>58819558
No worries, thanks anon.

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>>58819477
DELETE THIS my thinkpad is definitely semen free

>>58819646
ok

Is it worth spending an extra $50 for an SSD configured x220? What about extra $100?

>>58819671
Is it so hard to figure out? How much the built in SSD is worth by modern standards? How much is the HDD worth to you if you bought one with it and replaced it?

Is the t460p good in terms of build quality/sturdiness? Is it typical neo-Lenovo garbage, or is it worth buying if you have the money?

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What do you guys think about the new X1 Carbon?

Shame Lenovo gimped it by giving the OLED screen option and Iris graphics only to Yoga, but seems nice other than those.

>>58819427
Decent for a shitposting machine. GC knows how to ship shit properly too.

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>t420 is now 6 years old

>>58820120
>still perfectly usable for regular tasks
Who do we blame for this? Intel for not making better CPUs? AMD for not providing competition so that Intel would make better CPUs? Is it Lelnovo's fault for not obsoleting it? Mobile trend lowering performance requirements? Somebody's got to take the fall for this.

>>58819249
>useless
ARM is not useless you x86cuck. I can always tell you Intel shills because you feel the need to, without any basis, shit on ARM because they're killing Intel in the low-power field and Intel will never compete there.

Nice try though.

>>58819279
Where did I say P50? Maybe work on that reading comprehension a bit?

>>58819790
>chicklet keyboard
into the trash it goes.tiff

The express card cover in my X220T finally kicked the bucket.
How I do search the part on ebay? Is there a FRU or I have to replace the bottom case?

>>58820664
The FRU for the expresscard slot seems to be 04W1413 but the only listings I found for it are pretty overpriced just to replace the cover. You could just chuck a blank expresscard in it.

>>58808940
I'm running Fedora 25 on mine without issue.

What's the best Linux distribution to put on a thinkpad if I just want to install and forget and have rock solid stability?

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Anybody running VMs on their Thinkpads?
I'm thinking of running a Micro WinXP VM on T420 with core i5 2520m and 4 GB

>>58821153
Debian Stable, Ubuntu or Fedora. From stable to unstable.

>>58821187
>>58821187
Who is that cum arcangel?

What do you guys think of this?

Brand new sealed box HP Elitebook 820 G1
i5 Haswell
4GB ram / 128GB ssd
£329

Yay or nay?

>>58817301
Oh, I saw it too. If you have another hard drive to swap, you could take the cheaper one, as the only difference is the HDD size

>>58821274
I would stay away from Elitebooks from that era.
Had a 840 G1 with an i5 too. The motherboard was buggy as fuck. Sometimes didn't boot up, sometimes booted. I bought a new motherboard for that computer and even the new motherboard came with a bug that killed it the same day I installed after I put the laptop to sleep. I discovered that wasn't the only with that issues, appears that the batch of i5 motherboards was defective as fuck. 20 firmware revisions and the computer still had issues.
Research well if that model also presents problems.

>>58821332
>840 G1
Jesus christ, this little abomination literally stands 20 meters from my thinkpad right now.
Fucking iGPU crashes all the time, sleep doesn't work properly, finderprint reader is shit (after resume from sleep it spams the login prompt with errors), cancer-tier keyboard, unusable trackpoint, screen bezel unglues itself from the case.
Also cooling system is shit. Avoid it at all costs, unless you want to be a caged cuckold.

>>58821361
meant centimeters.
Anyway, it's a work laptop. I'm happy to always have an explanation to why I'm not doing anything.
How can I do anything when this PoS iGPU interrupts my work all the time?

>>58821374
Or even stops booting up.
Gladly I replaced that with a X220T. And my lovely W520 is on the mail.

>>58819427
Better than I did.
>T410 for $30, 1TB HDD for $20 and 256GB SSD for $50

>>58821187
XP vms run well on any shitbox anon.

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>>58821659
What's the specs on your shitbox, and what application do you use?VBox or libvirt?

>>58821187
>>58821725
Quit posting pictures of this wench's breasts. This is /tpg/ not >>>/b/

>>58821725
i7-2620m
8GB RAM
mSATA SSD
VirtualBox

>>58821757
That's not a shitbox anon.
Mine is
i5-2520m
4GB RAM
HDD
Would it be enough to run XP with eroge?

>>58821772
Yes.

>>58810451
x230

What's fair price for a grade A or new X250 in the UK? Seems hard to find them under £350.

Is buying a new x260 a bad idea?

>>58822286
Yes.

Is the T420 (4.8 lbs) too heavy for daily school use?

You have 3 minutes and 20 seconds to convince not to look for a t60/x60 or make a frankenpad.

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I want to get an x200 to libreboot but only the x200s comes with this high res screen.
There is an ebay for one of these x200s with libreboot on it.
Whats so special about libreboot on x200s compared to x200?

>>58822286
If you ever have to take your computer outside of your house, yes.

>>58822499
I use a T410 (4.91lbs) for my daily uni laptop. So, unless you're a manlet faggot then it's fine.

someone has a color profile for t430s ? Just increased the saturation a bit, but as overall i have no idea what i'm doing ?