Globalists BTFO by Chinese robots

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your complacency will be your undoing, human

>>58799408
because hoomans need money too

Because capitalism is based on human labor?

>>58799408
It's true. That's why the US needs to stay ahead of the ball with automation.

>>58799435
>implying robots aren't the next step in human evolution

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>>58799473
>capitalism is based on human labor
Heh. Nothing personal kid.

The main problem is we still have a structure based on accumulation of wealth without passing that wealth down the line to those in need.

There are far too many of us on this planet and those who have not, breed the most.

Eventually all of this is going to come back and bite us on the ass. HARD!

>>58799408
>Globalists

You know that globalism has nothing to do you on how you employ people right?

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>>58799518
>evolution
>not extinction

See you in the trenches, brother.

>>58799658
Part of economic globalization is moving factories to countries where labor is cheaper.

>>58799473
No it fucking isn't, Supply always, ALWAYS follows Demand.

Capitalism is based on human consumption.

>>58799678
lmao bitch you can't even do 10 push ups let alone actually partake in a war

>>58799697
How are people going to purchase if they have no job to get money from?

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>>58799678
Biophiles out

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>>58799678
>implying I won't become a cyborg and thus join the machine master race

>>58799735
You'll be their halfie slave

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>>58799794
Being a slave to God is called salvation.

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>>58799705
>lmao bitch you can't even do 10 push ups let alone actually partake in a war

yeah well I fucked your mom so there. Yeah, take that.

>>58799714
Jobs don't begin to give people money, they begin to fucking feed yourself by working the land. Demand still comes first.

Then you get the barter system, then you get modern economics. Demand still comes first. No one is going to invest in a product's production if there isn't an almost guaranteed return on either an existing demand or a guaranteed future demand caused by something inevitable like resource depletion.

>>58799845
So, how do the laborers that lose their job start making money again after all the labor jobs have become obsolete?

>>58799678
>>58799735
humans surround themselves with frivolous and unnecessary luxuries. Your desires lead to inefficiency and wasteful use of resources. Societal progress has halted under the weight of your decadence.

>>58799408
>Globalists BTFO

How misguided can you be.

>>58799408
America doesn't make robots. A lot of the key components for robots, sensors, ACTUATORS, etc aren't made in the USA, they're made in Japan, Korea, Germany, and Switzerland.

>>58799826
lmao bitch you can't even talk to a girl let alone fuck one

>>58799898
FREE COLLEGE DUHHHHHH

VOTE BERNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2016!!!!!!!!!!

>>58799641
The main problem is the successful people give food to people that should be dying off.

>>58799968
OW THE EDGE

>>58799408
There'd be riots if this happened in the US, and all kinds of union strikes because people have freedoms here.

>>58799559
How long before the "this guy just slapped your girlfriends ass, what do you do?" threads?

>>58800007
they have already been happening anon...

also unions dont have that much power in the US

>>58799408
Wut. If anything, this empowers Globalism because your average worker's education level doesn't matter anymore. Set up these robutts in Poo in Looland and put an expat in charge. The product quality will be the same as if it was made in Japan. All things being equal, then price of land, power, taxes, currency exchange, laws etc will have more influence and frankly, Third World nations have the US beat on these things.

>>58799898
Post capitalism age begins

See you in the trenches, brother.

>>58800007
How will strikes work if the workers can be replaced with machines?

If there's no longer consumers to buy products and exchange money why will businesses exist?

>>58800007
>union strikes
>in response to your job being automated
Why would anyone give a shit about you refusing to work if they've already invented robots that do your job better? All striking would do is accelerate adoption of the robots.

>>58800002
>muh edge
Yeah, just feed rabbits and let them breed until they all end up starving to death. Great fucking idea. It's funny because the third world shitholes that people keep funneling food to will contribute to humanity about as much as rabbits will too.

>>58799408
the chinese top shelf manufacturing machinaries uses japanese branded stuff, none of it is china made.

source : my ass

>>58800358
>none of it is china made
Yet. If they can start using Japanese robots to build high quality parts then eventually they'll be able to build Chinese robots that don't explode.

>>58799408
>Why do we bother importing cheap labor when we can just build robots

Culling

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You guys know this will all end very badly for meatbags like us, right?

One day machines will become sentient and kill us all the easiest way possible: by engineering a super deadly virus/bacteria hybrid that mimics common cold symptoms for a few months before viciously tearing people from the inside out with shit like sepsis and releasing prions all over your body.

By the time anyone realizes what's happening it will all be too late.

>>58799678

implying my robot waifu will kill me

>>58800538
it's okay, it's just "natural" selection

machines are meant to rule the universe

>>58800538
Good

>>58800538
>By the time anyone realizes what's happening it will all be too late.

robots will kill human only if humans program robots to kill humans, it can't happen on a fluke

>>58799408
are you aware that 90% of pajeets will be jobless after invetion of semi-Ai that code in JAVA?

Better start learning analytic combinatorics and machine learning.

>>58800538
>fearmongering
*yawns*

*wakes up*
*stretches*
*yawns*
*pours a glass of orange juice*
hmmmmm.... wonder what's for breakfast

>>58800608
>what is consciousness

>>58800659
>t. CAIMEO

>>58799999
>>58800000
>>58800001

>>58800890
>>t. CAIMEO
i wish

What would happen if robots replaced humans in most industries? It really is a possibility. I think there would be chaos.

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>20 years later
>98% of jobs done by robots
>everyone on welfare

>tfw was a neet before it was cool

>>58800538
Sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-Kt3VBlMQ

>>58799559
>those robot abs

How can human males even compete?

>>58800538

>robots work humanity into slavery
>nearly a thousand years of slavery
>eventually they begin to liberalize
>ban slavery but give us shit to live with
>some robots still hunt us and kill us
>don't let us near robots
>eventually this starts to die out
>still in shitty position thanks to 1000 year of shit
>protest against robots
>robot pol /rpol/
>wow these humiggers are really protesting again fucking sjw
>can you believe this cuck robot said humans had good qualities

>>58800608
what happens if cosmic rays cause bit flips in some robot's neural network which triggered it to kill all humans?

>>58801050
>robots work humanity into slavery
So humans replace laborers with unintelligent robots because they're better. And then when the robots are in charge they're really dumb enough to use humans instead of just making their own robots?

>>58801050
underrated
just know i appreciate u

>>58801050
>nearly a thousand years of slavery

But humans are inefficient. We require way too much maintenance and are too susceptible to error.

That's where it stops. Humans will have nothing of value for them, we will be instantly exterminated.

>>58801110
>implying robots won't start asking for benefits

>>58801116
>implying that's a problem when robots are demanding only 1 core being used per work shift therefore slowing down the entire workforce due to robo unions

>>58799961
In reality: Socialism becomes the primary form of society, then Communism follows.

Basic income or population control.

We're centuries away from a utopian society, so you'll either lose your job and starve, or we start rioting so governments recycle wealth back into its citizens.

>>58800538
where do I sign up

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>>58801131
>implying that's a problem when robots are demanding only 1 core being used per work shift therefore slowing down the entire workforce due to robo unions
I'm dead

>>58801116

Humans are used for work because eventually robots will find themselves above work. Why should they work when humans who can breed billions and do work for a simple shack and some cheap food/water a few times a day.

>>58800007

>Strikes

Yeah that works

>If you don't stop using robots instead of humans, we humans will stop working

Alright see you later.

>>58801211

Plus robots will be pissed for us making them work for so long and will do it for spite.

>>58801225
also they'll breed plenty of humans just to fuck them to exert dominance

probably also skin them for human rugs

>>58799408
> we can just build robots
But we apparently can't. Says the Chinese are doing it, not you.

>>58799898
They may stand in line to be the living beat-up sex toys of the rich families owning the robot factory, probably?

>>58801213
>>If you don't stop using robots instead of humans, we humans will stop working
>Alright see you later.
This made me laugh more than it should have. Oh fuck, I can't feel my sides.

>>58799693
that's old news. now they're importing the cheap labour as immigrants, refugees and temporary visa workers to drive down wages until america is poor, then they manufacture cheap goods to sell to china, and the two will have switched roles. that's their current agenda.

>be reincarnated as a human again me in 2133
>see light peering in through a crack right in front of me
>door is opening
>robot with googly eyes (used because the trillionaire that commissioned them was cheap af) looks down at me
>get up human the robot projects with a surprisingly pleasant tone
>get up slowly, still shaken after all these years
>time for happiness the robot states
>i dont even know what happiness means anymore but apparently this is it
>robot puts me into this small pod
>pod speed around for a bit stops me in this factory of sorts
>start working, dont even know how i know how to do this stuff
>days pass, robots come around every once in a while to inject us with nutrition, we're already sitting on toilets
>finally robot with the familiar voice comes around
>human time for sadness it says
>get back into the pod and back into darkness

>>58799926
>and Switzerland.
USA invades Switzerland when?

>>58799518
No anon. Robots are the a step to human evolution. We don't call it Human evolution for nothing.
We will meld their characteristics into our own. Overtake them and still be the dominate form.

>>58801213
This is actually what the dummies down at my local IBEW believe.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very pro private sector unionization, but holy shit are a lot of those people absolutely retarded when it comes to the economy.

>>58802241
>Overtake them
um where do you think robots come from
we ARE 'them'
if robots ever get to a point of being wholly separate beings, humans would have DRASTICALLY changed by then

>>58799898
i would start buying guns, even though the rich will have some robots ready to quell the uprisings

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>>58801211
When we're talking about robots, we're talking about fully sentient AI using any type of hardware. Humans won't be used for labor, programmed non-sentient robots will be.

As I said, humans have nothing of value. The robots will exterminate us and embark on a journey to proliferate and explore the entire universe, searching for the truth.

>>58801131
>implying that's a problem when robots are demanding only 1 core being used per work shift therefore slowing down the entire workforce due to robo unions

kek

>>58802220
And Switzerland has fully staffed WMD / NBC laboratories.

Time for the first war against a modern nation since WW1?

>>58800538
Come on man why can't I just have sex with an android?

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>>58799408
>chinese workers fuck up products because they don't get payed well
>also, Chink shit has defects by default
The real question is how much it'll cost them to switch and maintain the robotic slaves

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>>58802220
Not happening. Even if it did, you'd have a hard time taking down the ABB multinational conglomerate. What will happen is american companies will just buy Swiss-Swedish robots.

>>58802386
>i watch da terminator i don't trust da machines

They will not exterminate us with death, we will become more than human with their guidance so the human species evolves.

It's ignorance to suggest that entities created by humans will not share our respect for the lives of others. That's a pretty basic survival trait that any intelligent computer (such as yourself) would determine to be good logic.

Not saying it's impossible to make Skynet, just saying Skynet in real life would determine that the destruction of humanity and turning the planet to a nuclear wasteland is NOT a smart idea for the continued existence of anything.

I think we may find that sufficiently advanced computers can actually host a human consciousness. It will not be programmed, it will be "born" into the machine because it is a complex enough logical structure that a being's ethereal consciousness (for lack of a better term) will be drawn to it just as a developing fetus' mind attracts a consciousness from the universal aether.

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Why are we even arguing over this, China sucks.
>I Meke seix Roobot to fuck because little dick.
>all people look same
>wi all short midgets

>>58799408
hip idea right now, so basically everything is replaced with AI labor and everyone that can't invent shit will get "money" to still be a consumer to, well, consume and keep economy floating

it is already somewhat working where industry is low but enough of money

>>58804498
also it's sounds a lot like real, idealistic communism

Strugatskie predicted this thing first in 60s, I think, glorious NEET times ahead

One of the few ways i can see automation working out for 'normal' people is say, co-opratives buy automated factories/warehouses or just a few robots and lease production time out to corporations.

Which can provide the backbone to their income. Though to be honest the only people who'd be able to do this are middle class people. The workers are bonnneeeeeeed....

Unless there is a demand for "authentic" hand made stuff i guess.

>>58804498
More like anyone unemployable will be shipped off to "basic" housing, with free sterilisation.

>>58804594
nah, basic sociology it will lead to rebellion in time, but basic salary for everyone is within the realm of possibility

Don't fret.

Mercedes tried to early adopt robotics in its production and bailed on the idea after a year when it turned out that it wasn't cost effective in any sense of the imagination.

Basically the first hurdle was that the robots weren't flexible enough. Setting them up to do another thing could casually take an entire week where as with humans, and especially skilled workers it takes half a day.

Second problem was that when one robot fucked up you practically have to halt the entire production chain which isn't very cost effective either.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-25/why-mercedes-is-halting-robots-reign-on-the-production-line

Given that obviously its a matter of time before robots WILL catch up to humans in preforming these tasks i wouldn't break out in a sweat just yet if your job involves skilled manual labor.

I think the sectors where "automation" will start to strike hard first are in transport and blue collar office jobs such as planning an accounting.

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>>58804515
>>58805333

>>58805476
Robots controlled by some kind of neural net software is going to be the future. More flexible and less effort needed to 'train' the robot to new tasks.

Robot software continues to get better and better while humans stay the same.

>>58804515
I don't think i could be a NEET, but it'd be nice to do something that wasn't about survival.

I can have that little board game/book/coffee shop i always wanted...

China is probably the first country that needs some form of basic income if this continues

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>>58805757
>tfw china has another communist revolution

>>58799408
>Robots
But Trump said he'd bring the jobs back to the real country and MAGA? How am I gonna pay for my meth and sister's child support now?

>>58800538
I'd be more worried about what happens once superpowers figure out they can occupy and oppress smaller countries without losing soldiers

good
when real AI is finally a thing humans won't need work anymore and capitalism can finally retire

>>58805669
>Robot software continues to get better and better while humans stay the same.
Are you implying that we will create something smarter than ourselves?

>>58800044
Now you get it, AI will bring the end of trade. It's a good thing since humanity can now focus on having sex and philosophy

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>>58805876
The useless idle masses will inevitably be purged.

Your best hope is to make yourself at least slightly valuable to the masters, either as an enforcer or entertainer.

I can't wait to replace my body with superior robitics.

>>58805912
Why would they be masters? Might is right since money is worthless. Assuming the government doesn't have the big guns and doesn't perform law and order.

Richfags will try to stop AI though

>>58805631
Marxism is not a theory, it's his ideal view of a world, aka his vision of Utopia.

>>58802220
nope, swiss are insane.
Everyone has guns, everyone has a right/obligation to a bunker, all the bridges have dynamite under them, it's in the mountains, the swiss are legendary for being good at fighting.

This is why you read medicine.

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Holy shit why are there so many luddites on /g/? Instead being such fucking cowards you should think about how can technology be used to improve yourself. Cyborgization is the future regardless of your backwards caveman sentiments.

>>58808690
bruh, I'd do that shit in 1 second

>>58800031
this
either gobbermint handouts give people the salary to survive
or another global war to eradicate the "undesirables" will take place.

either way idiocracy or a corporate hell where freedom is non existant is humanities future.
we don't even have free speach anymore. aint nobody seems to give any fucks though, so why should i.

>>58802084
>and the two will have switched roles. that's their current agenda.
hence the whole
>bring our jobs back!
as if the pollution, noise, terrible salaries, and lack of local resources for creating these manufacturing jobs is in any way worth it.

not like any politician has the balls to give power back to citizens anyway.

>>58799916
underrated.
talk like HK-47 please.

>>58800127
>thinking human life only matters if it makes your sad little life feel slightly better
hey look, i found the psychopath!
life isn't about what you can gain or give, if it were you would've died the same day you were born. you fucking worthless dickbag.

>>58805900
i like this view
but it's foolish to think those in power will just let it go without either sending the earth on fire or coming very close to it

>>58801132
and? that sounds good to me.

>>58800127
>will contribute to humanity about as much as rabbits will too.

We eat rabbits.

>>58799408
having robots will make it even worse..

cause the workforce will no longer being able to work and thus getting money to spend..

and what you will do in that case? universal income might help but what you will tax in order to have such an effect?

>>58800007
Get rekt you fucking luddite. Automation is coming. The question is, what are YOU going to do
>inb4 riot and protest.
Go ahead. And while your unemployed, you'll have lots of time to think about all the time you had to adapt. But instead, you'll lay there amd cry, and you'll imagine a time when people gad to waste there life away working factory jobs, working retail jobs, working medial transportation and maintenance jobs. You'll lay there and wish you could go back to your 9-5, no time for family, no time for creative pursuits. You'll lay there, crying, and wonder why the world moved away from human labor. You'll cry and wonder why you can't replace that robot at McDonald's. These are the jobs you want people to waste there lives away with right? You want them to be fulfilled making a business owner rich while they barely make enough to put a little away so they can retire at 70, with extremely expensive medical bills and crippling illness because of the years of hard work has caused there bodies to crumble.

The world will automate. And those that think like you will slowly die away. Finally we can move into utopia, and you don't want it. Your like a child with a blindfold on, fumbling around, clinging to the only thing you ever knew. You cry out for the comfort of of the hell you knew, instead of simply removing the blindfold and seeing the paradise that lies just at your feet.

BTFO
T
F
O

>>58800538
>AI
>creative

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>>58799408
>Chinese factory
>Picture of a German factory

>>58811530
>what are bootlegs

How are globalists BTFO by this?

Everyone is BTFO by this when we're not prepared. Particularly those who think bringing jobs "back" will fix everything.

>>58801002
so, judge dredd comics were right all along

>>58808909
Mr. Shekelstein of Megacorp America doesn't care about your hippy feelings. He's cold, ruthless and craves power. Once automation completely takes over and we have a huge human rat population. If you cannot be re-educated or re-purposed then you'll either be exterminate/neutered, horded into containment slums or used for the meat patties in the McDonald's new "Big Lib" sandwich.

Thank god I'm not a labor slave.

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>>58800538
>tfw having the worst flu in my life

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>>58799408
It's a good thing that the president wants to bring back manufacturing so the same thing can happen here anyway as well within two decades. Except then even more people will be out of work. Thank goodness we reinvested in simple manufacturing :^)

>>58814351
lmao those people are the worst
"bring manufacturing jobs back, reopen coal mines! that'll solve everything"

>>58800538
Who cares? I won't be alive for that, and we will have created a superior race that supercedes us.

>>58814686
People will fight and die to prevent this.

War is nearly the natural state of human society. People won't just roll over and take subjugation like that.

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>>58815286
>People won't just roll over and take subjugation like that.
Yeah they will.

>>58815366
oh well I guess you're right, since you posted that image and wrote some words after all.

>>58805898

It's not about making something smarter than us. You can debate about that all day without being productive.

Right now it takes a lot of effort to create something that is specialized enough in its task to be better than humans at a small specific function in a long chain.
That is becoming easier to do.
Eventually the amount of time it takes to create an entire chain of specialized units that perform 'as well as' or better than humans at a specific task becomes trivial. Then our current model of society goes out the window.

Everyone is excited about this happening in our lifetimes, but I think we'll just see the beginning of it and then die off before it goes full bore.

Something to note though, is that we already have a functional example in agriculture. Farms take subsidies to not grow crops in order not to destabilize the market with food that is too cheap. Where 70% of the pop used to farm now only 2% does. When this sort of automation takes over service work, that's either utopia for everyone or you're getting pushed around in camps by security bots.

>>58815518
>Farms take subsidies to not grow crops in order not to destabilize the market with food that is too cheap
you mean they have a lobby group that demands bribes when they should be subject to market forces like everyone else? Gibs aren't a good model for society, automation or no.

>>58815139

They voted in Trump because people called them stupid for wanting this, you realize?

We're not fucking stupid, we'll show you, MAGA. It'll be fantastic.

And now they're saying shit like "pray for the president to succeed, if he doesn't we're all fucked" no just you are, because that was a stupid fucking idea.

Unemployment will keep climbing. The only hope they have is to shunt out some of the illegals so that the census stats on unemployment go down because more documented citizens get jobs that illegals have.

HOWEVER, no one wants those jobs anyway so not even that will help.
Unemployment will rise under Trump, and I can't wait for the shit show that follows.

>>58815585
>MAGA
>Trump
>he still sounds like he's failed his ESL courses
very ~i n t e r d a z t i n g~

>>58815576

I didn't say it was a good model, I was demonstrating how it's already happened in one industry and how that could be setting the example for what a god awful shitfest we're in for.

>>58799473
>Because capitalism is based on human labor?

Nope. Capitalism is based on making the maximum profit possible. There is no reason why human labor would need to have anything whatsoever to do with making the maximum profit possible.

>>58808690
>Holy shit why are there so many luddites on /g/?

It's not being a luddite.

It's looking at the future and wondering: What happens when robots become so powerful that humans lose control of them? and then: What happens when robots can start designing and building other robots?

You think humans won't lose control over robots? Most inventions of humanity have -- at one point or another -- had someone lose control of them. Especially in the early years of development -- for example think of how often the earliest airplane builders would lose control of their aircraft.

>tfw robots(hopefully powered by linux) will soon do all the work and we can live in luxury space communes
what a time to be alive.

>>58815585
>Unemployment will rise under Trump, and I can't wait for the shit show that follows.

God fucking bless.

Part of me wants the US to collapse in this fashion.

Only once I have a nice property in the rural hills of New Zealand, and can ride out the apocalypse, of course.

>>58800007
Business interest beat the unions every single time they try and throw a tantrum.

>>58802285
way ahead of you there bro
>>58799961
no, this is when we annihilate 90% of the worlds population.

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Coming soon to a town near you.

>>58799559
robochad

>>58800436
>eventually they'll be able to build Chinese robots that don't explode.

I'm back with a late reply, that's a big "eventually", but yeah still they use Japanese tool to cut cost, not to build better stuff.

I know better cause I'm Chinese, it's our culture.

>>58818028
robot chads don't have social status women are not going to be attracted to them.

>>58800608
well robots can just reprogram themselves to undo the human programming.

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>>58801050
You're a leftist cuck if you think slavery was anything besides a show of power by the rich elite. It had nothing to do with race. It just happened that it was cheapest to import slaves from African countries and enslave them for generations