/wdg/ - Web development general

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About to start learning HTML after realizing I need to be able to design my own website.

Bumping the thread

>>58787403
You don't need to "learn" html, it's markup. You get used to it, there isn't any concept to learn per se. Don't be too worried if you feel like you covered all there is about HTML in a few hours, that's actually all there is.

I advise you to follow a tutorial about making a blog, or downloading a blog template then changing whatever you don't like.

>>58788037
OMG SDUDE DONT SAY HTML ISNT REAL LANGUAGE. I LEARN HTML CODE ACADEMY. IT SAYS IT REAL LANGUAGE. SO IT IS YOU RETARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. I BET I EVEN KNOW MORE HTML THAN U

>>58788037
>>58790269
I'm getting mixed signals here.

Did anybody here work with Raphael library?
How is it?

When are we removing kike academy from the links

I found a very nice alternative to bootstrap, /wdg/

>http://www.responsivegridsystem.com/

Does anyone here use it/have used it?

>>58790728
There is more to bootstrap than columns, anon. People don't use it just because it has columns. It makes frontend easy to throw together without much thought.

are one page website a meme?

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>>58791272
no

angular 2 is fucking awesome learn it

Ive spent 3 days moving box's around a page, and my highlight was copying jquery code of someones site and trying to make it work because I thought it was JavaScript.

Sublime text is a meme, using dream weaver is much eaiser.

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Hello guys,

my mother in law has a simple wordpress e-shop, there are 11 pending updates for WP and the plugins, the guys who designed and hosted it doesn't respond. I haven't done anything with WP so far, but I assume it should be relatively safe to do the updates ? Would there be any chance of anything fucking up afterwards ?

thanks

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I have a question,

In what browser can i experiment and test my own javascripts without it being blocked or deleted by browser?

Any known version?

>have awful hacked together jquery script from when I didn't know jquery
>it works

>go to rewrite it with all my knowledge 3 years later.
>It doesn't work.

I'm looking at this and it doesn't make sense.

>>58791345
>dreamweaver
now THERE's a name I haven't heard in 10 years

>>58791335
judging from angular 1 veterans, angular 2 syntax is horrid, and the whole ecosystem feels bad like java

>>58790312
They're both retards. HTML is pretty easy though, you should be fine.

>>58791559
Mm

>>58791572
dont talk about something you're not knowledgable in yourself

>>58791391
If you have the WP login access, you betta fucking update it before your mom gets hacked LOL

>plugins are 90% safe to update, the 10% is either contact forms that might mess up the design (and you gotta go check on it), or depreciated plugins where they suddenly just don't work anymore -- WP is starting to do that thing where if it's not valid, it will self-delete

if you have a e-shop and woocommerce / wp-commerce is actually one of the plugins, you betta update that shit pronto

>most updates never break the theme, unless it's the theme/framework itself; they make child themes for this safety reason, but if you can tell that your current theme HAS a child, then you're safe

>>58791391
WP core should stay up to date automatically, but if not you definitely need to update that. The plugins should probably be fine to update as well, but it might be a good idea to backup first just in case.

>>58791545
Pretty much any modern browser will run JS fine, not sure what you're asking.

>>58791683
old WPs don't update automatically, that got put in after WP 4.2
even then, some hosts don't have that option to help update for you

If I were to write a backend REST API in whatever language, and a REST client in a JS framework on the frontend side, would I _need_ to have the backend be publicly exposed?

tl;dr: REST BACKEND <- JS FRONTEND <- BROWSER. Does REST BACKEND need to be public?

>>58791678
my wife's mom actually, yeah i have the wp login.
thx for the input tho

>>58791683
>>58791702

>WP core should stay up to date automaticall
WordPress 4.7.2–en_US is the proposed update , we are working out the hosting login data, i really doubt the fucker who was supposed to take care of the site has done any backups.

I guess if anything fucks up, a simple copy-paste of the backup (re-upload) should fix everything, right ?

>>58791697
All"yall
Try making a js button and play it in your browser....

>>58791391
First backup the files (within the rootfolder and perhaps the wp-config if it's above the root folder) and export the database, obviously.

>>58791742
Publicly exposed as in having the API endpoints available over the internet? Of course you would, how else would you do it?

>>58791839
so I would need something like:

site.com which does REST calls to api.site.com (auth required)

right?

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>>58785763
So I've begun my journey of HTML and CSS to get my feet wet in becoming a front end web developer.
I've got a problem with my nav bars though that I can't seem to be able to fix. I've tried <div> to set the classes, I've tried CSS display: inline; coupled with text-align: center; to get the .navbar2 li to align the nav bar to the bottom of the page and inline like the one on the top.

I'm really new to all of this and I'm probably making a huge rookie mistake in all this but I've decided this is what I want to do for the rest of my life so I'm up for the challenge.

Here's my HTML and CSS sheet I'd love some feedback so I can improve my own skills. I'm doing this as practice so don't be so critical that it's ugly.

<!doctype html>
<html>
<head>
<title>Jacks Site</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="stylesheet.css">
</head>
<body>
<h1 class="Welcome">Welcome to my website</h1>
<nav class="Navbar1">
<ul style="list-style-type:none">
<li><a href="Webpage.html">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="Page 2.html">Page 2</a></li>
<li><a href="Page 3.html">Page 3</a></li>
</ul>
</nav>
<nav class="Navbar2">
<ul style="list-style-type: none">
<li>About Us</li>
<li><a href="Credits.html">Credits</li>
</ul>
</nav>
</body>

</html>

>CSS
.Welcome {
text-align: center;
margin: 0px;
color: black;
background: url(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/t/halftone-web-header-banner-4082189.jpg);

}

.Navbar1 li {
display: inline;
margin: 195px;
text-align: center;
}
.Navbar2 li {
margin-top: 300px;
display: inline;
text-align: center;

}

Why does the following query not work in PHP (works flawlessly if I ctrl+c ctrl+v at MySQL prompt):

$stmt = $db->prepare('INSERT INTO Account VALUES ("312", "asd", UTC_TIMESTAMP(), "lkj"');
if(!$stmt)
    return $db->error;

It generates this error:

You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '' at line 1

>>58791991
you're missing a ) at the end for VALUES ()

>>58791894
inline elements don't support margins top/bottom, set it to inline-block.

>In an inline formatting context, boxes are laid out horizontally, one after the other, beginning at the top of a containing block. Horizontal margins, borders, and padding are respected between these boxes. The boxes may be aligned vertically in different ways: their bottoms or tops may be aligned, or the baselines of text within them may be aligned. The rectangular area that contains the boxes that form a line is called a line box.

the entire approach you do is fucked anyway, don't set pixel values, they'll look different on different devices/resolutions.

This might not be the best place to ask, but I might as well give it a try.

I currently work at a company, for almost a year. Salary wise I can't really complain, make about $2500 net a month. However, the company I work for have a huge hard-on for WordPress. A system I personally despise, mainly because its lack of freedom (routing wise) and the database structure, which for projects that need to be scalable, can be slow (we have big customers).

When I first applied for the job, I said: "I don't mind starting off with WordPress, but I do eventually hope to work with other systems too.. preferably (which is my expertise) Laravel or other MVC systems". His reply: "We work with lots of different systems and Laravel will be one of these in the future". So, after 8 months working here, I still haven't touched anything else than WordPress.

I asked another colleague of mine: "Do you think I'll ever work with anything other than WordPress at this company?". "I am afraid not", he replied.

So I'm a bit stuck. We are a small team and I have a great relationship with my colleagues, lots of banter and we help each other out. My boss however is rather childish and you're often not taken serious when you suggest certain improvements. So I don't think bringing up this dilemma with him is a good option.

tl;dr:
>make decent money, great colleagues
>forced to work with pajeet WordPress, want to work with Laravel
>only 8 months at this company, would be better to have more working experience
>boss has a huge hard-on for WordPress and won't change
>I don't think coding with WordPress is good for my development

So my dilemma is, leave and get a Laravel job OR stay and continue using WP, but gain more CV working experience?

>>58791894
what do you want to do with your navbar ?

you forgot to close the <a href="Credits.html"> tag btw

>>58791572
Angular 1 """veterans""" are just disappointed that they had to learn an over-complicated technology and now it is obsolete. Angular 2 uses TS which is much better then ES5 Angular 1 uses. IMO main fault of Angular 1 is that it is built for web designers, not for programmers. Angular 2 fixes that.

>>58792268
Me personally, I'd stay for another 4 months, THEN start sending out applications.

But I'd do it for more money, not simply to use Laravel. I'm sure you could manage accomplishing both, however.

>>58791894
>margin: 0px;

>>58792235
So I should set it to display: inline-block;?
I'll give it a try.
>don't set pixel values
Should I use REM or EM?
>the entire approach you do is fucked anyway
How so could you explain a little bit?
I'm looking to get better so anything helps.
>>58792283
Holy fuck noob move on my part. Thanks for that.
>what do you want to do with your navbar?
I want to have options at the top for different pages relating to navigating the website for information and one at the bottom for credits, about us, contact, employment, etc. Things that relate to who made the site and things about the sites contributors you know.

>>58792314
Yeah, I'm thinking about perhaps doing some freelancing in the meantime and expand my Laravel portfolio.

>>58792314
>But I'd do it for more money, not simply to use Laravel.
This.
If money isn't your number 1 priority by a long shot then you will end up getting taken advantage of although it sounds like you already are. $2500 a month sounds pretty low if you are in the US.

>>58792378
I'm in Europe and is a decent salary for a Junior/Medior. Just converted it to $ for the sake of argument.

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>>58791797
Works fine in Nightly from the terminal. If you want to play around with JS go to Codepen or JSFiddle, and you can code JS right on their sites.

why is php so fucking awful

ive been trying to figure out how to make a table out of a mysql database for hours.

>>58792572
well, what did you try so far?

>>58792572
Do you have trouble reading the SQL data, or do you have trouble formatting the data into a table?

>>58791879
You could do that if you want. Having a separate api.site.com is not necessary but will work fine if you want to do it that way. Usually the RESTful way to do things is just do something like site.com/posts or site.com/users etc. or you could namespace it like site.com/api/users if you want.

>>58792323
>REM or EM
You could use both, but read up on them because they give fucked up results if you misunderstand them. Try them out.
I see you have two <nav>, Im pretty sure your "supposed" to only have one. But it will work though.
>I want to have options at the top for different pages relating to navigating the website for information and one at the bottom for credits, about us, contact, employment, etc. Things that relate to who made the site and things about the sites contributors you know.
Alright, so its the positioning thats the issue? Force the position of NavBar2?

>>58792675
>>58792636

I'm pretty sure I read in the SQL data correctly. Its how to manipulate it is where I'm having trouble.

<?php
//setup files:

# Database Connection Here...
$dbc = mysqli_connect(............);

#Page Setup
$query = "SELECT * FROM database";
$result = mysqli_query($dbc, $query);

?>

I'm trying to come up with a for loop where variable $r is equal to how many rows there are in the database.

Here's some pseudocode to show you what I'm going for

<?php for ($r = $dbc.rows; $rows > 0; rows--;):?>
    <tr>
        <td><?php echo $result[$r][1];?></td> //1 represents first name
        <td><?php echo $result[$r][2];?></td> //2 represents last name
    </tr>
<?php endfor;?>

Rows in the database are id, first name, last name.

>>58793006
I don't think that's how you make loops in php, or am I wrong? Shouldn't it be

<?php
    for ($r = $dbc.rows; $rows > 0; rows--;):
        <tr>
            <td><?php echo $result[$r][1];?></td> //1 represents first name
            <td><?php echo $result[$r][2];?></td> //2 represents last name
        </tr>
    endfor;
?>

if you use the colon syntax for your for loops? Also you should check the output of your sql command. Just print everything between <pre> tags. Btw, I don't use php so I can't help you further.

>>58793006
>>58793100
https://secure.php.net/manual/en/mysqli-result.fetch-row.php#example-1907

>>58793006
use pdo

also just do a foreach instead of a for loop for that

foreach $rows as $row
http://php.net/manual/en/control-structures.foreach.php

>>58793137
Does foreach loop go in reverse, as in if I had a database like this:

id. FirstName LastName
1. BOB SMITH
2. TOM SMITH
3. JOHN SMITH

The foreach loop would print

JOHN SMITH
TOM SMITH
BOB SMITH

Because the reason I'm working with a for loop is that I want to print out the names from the highest id to the lowest id.

>>58793162 here

I found out how to solve my issue

When getting the query in >>58793006 , add an "ORDER by ID DESC"

as in

$query = "SELECT * FROM database ORDER by ID DESC"

As for the loop, I just used a while loop

<?php while ($row = mysqli_fetch_array($result)):;?>
        <tr>
                <td><?php echo $result.' '.$result[1];?></td>
        </tr>
<?php endwhile;?>

>>58793312
><td><?php echo $result.' '.$result[1];?></td>

quick edit

Should be

<?php echo $result[1].' '.$result[2];?>

>>58790328
bump

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>>58792317
>

why do i feel like bootstrap 2 was so much better and simplistic than bootstrap 3? i've switched to 3 long ago but i still kinda miss 2. please tell me i'm not the only one ;-;

>>58793312
why do you write code that you won't be able to recognize a month later? why don'tyou just use a template engine so that your code won't look as messy as this one?

>>58793006
https://phpdelusions.net/pdo

what cheap shared hosting do you suggest? I found about neostrada and buyshared, I just don't know which one to trust.

I'm just starting to learn about this and I want to spend the less money possible

My portfolio is finally coming together.

It took me long enough.

>>58792572
That's like the easiest thing you can do.

PHP 101.

>>58785763
Is Go a meme. Last time I was looking at it when it was released, It seemed to be a miscarriage, tho. However, you fucking niggers are mentioning it all the time. So what's the fuzz about it?!

>>58795685

it's yet another hope of /g/ to get rid of JS

>>58795971
There is still php ...

This is probably a stupid question, but I'm confused about what this company wants for their job interview test. Basically they asked me for wireframes and examples of the graphical user interface.

Wireframes are no problem, but I'm unsure about what they actually mean when they say graphical user interface. Do they want mockups showing the design, as in colors and font? Or do they want me to make and interactive prototype, showing the user interaction?

>pls help

>>58796054
The design I believe.

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Gents

Anybody here knows Bootstrap?

I've made a navbar but literally NOTHING I do is able to move my 2 tabs to the right edge.

Not <ul class="navbar navbar-right>
not <div class="row justify-content-end>
Nothing

 
<nav class="navbar navbar-toggleable-md navbar-light bg-faded navbar-full" id="nav-main">
                <button class="navbar-toggler navbar-toggler-right" type="button" data-toggle="collapse" data-target="#navbarNav" aria-controls="navbarNav" aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Toggle navigation">
                <span class="navbar-toggler-icon"></span>
                </button>
                <a class="navbar-brand" href="#">All Navbar One</a>
                <div class="collapse navbar-collapse" id="navbarNav">
                    <ul class="navbar-nav navbar-right">
                      <li class="nav-item active">
                        <a class="nav-link" href="#">Home <span class="sr-only">(current)</span></a>
                      </li>
                      <li class="nav-item">
                        <a class="nav-link" href="#">Features</a>
                      </li>
                      <li class="nav-item">
                        <a class="nav-link" href="#">Pricing</a>
                      </li>
                      <li class="nav-item">
                        <a class="nav-link disabled" href="#">Disabled</a>
                      </li>
                    </ul>
                </div>
            </nav>

what this does is literally nothing
its bootstrap 4

I am generating this view with Handlebars (if it matters)

What is the best javascript framework to create a blog with post system?

>>58796203
PHP

>>58796203
express

Django retard reporting in. Does anyone know how I have have every page direct to the login page if a user is logged out? Basically the only thing that should be seen is the login page if they're logged out.

>>58796356
If true
this layout
if false
other

>>58796356
you can use session or token authentication with cookies, and if the user is not logged in, you can send a 302 redirect to the login page.

Sup /wdg/

I want to make a "presentation"-like website.

Consider this:
http://semeraro.slides.com/semeraro/saldi/fullscreen#/
http://melanie-f.com/en/
http://www.stojakovic.co/
http://www.giampierobodino.com/en/high-jewellery/the-radiance-of-colours

as examples.

The first one is made with an actual presentation framework, reveal.js

Do you recommend it, /wdg/? Are there any better, easy to use alternatives?

>>58797011
>http://melanie-f.com/en/
>playing audio on max volume by default
>no volume control, only on/off
I give that website 0/10 and whoever made it should be executed.

>>58797195
yeah, it's bad.

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>>58797011

>>58793819
well hold onto your horse cos 4 is on its way

>>58785763
not sure where to ask this question but this seems like the best place to ask

anyone have experience as a system administrator?
>how hard is it to get a position as one
>what prerequisites are best to have when applying

seems like the perfect IT job i could get into from what I've been reading

Studying computer science at school, taking a web dev class and learning on my own as well. What should I do to increase my chances of getting a job as a web developer? Just create random sites and put them in a portfolio?

What are the proes/cons of making an app in Laravel as opposed to making a SPA with something like React+Redux?

Apart from the no page reload because of routing being done client-side are there any?

Learning both Laravel and React atm and so far the MVC architecture of the php framework feels so comfy compared to state-managing-component cluster-fuck of an overly large SP React app.

Guess I should more into Redux but not sure if it's worth it.

>>58800572
pros*

>>58800199
>Just create random sites and put them in a portfolio?

Yes, that's exactly what you do. Make them complex. User login systems with friend lists and messaging etc. The more shit you shove into each site the better off you'll be.

>>58796146
Fuck off and actually learn CSS you faggot.

Is there a lightweight command line utility that takes HTML as stdin, filters it by element types, classes, ids, etc, and spits it out to stdout, so it can be piped easily?

Preferably not written in ruby, python, js, or go. Something that will probably already exist on somebody's install, like perl, sh, or C.

>>58801539

so an HTML parser? only ones i found were by googling

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>start ASP.NET MVC
>don't understand shit
>3 weeks later
>grasping the fundamentals but don't feel confident doing anything on my own
>feel like i need another 3 weeks to feel confident to start working on my project
who thought this shit was useful?

>>58802171

>falling for the M$ monopoly framework

lel

they got you

hey /wdg/,

How do I figure out what this piece of code does? I suspect it loads up some ads or some shit. How do I go about decoding this?

<-s-c-r-i-p-t type="text/javascript" data-cfasync="false">
//<![CDATA[
 (function(){ var v=window;v["\u005fp\x6fp"]=[["\u0073\x69\u0074e\u0049d",927007],["\u006d\x69\u006e\x42i\x64",0],["p\u006fp\u0075\x6e\x64\x65\x72sPe\u0072IP",0],["\x64el\u0061y\x42\x65\x74\u0077\x65\u0065\u006e",0],["\x64ef\u0061\x75\x6c\u0074","\u0068\x74t\u0070\u003a\x2f\x2f\u0077w\u0077\x2e\u006c\x69nk\x62\x75c\x6b\x73\x2eco\u006d\x2fP6\u006a\u0072"],["\x64\x65f\x61\x75l\u0074P\x65r\u0044\x61y",1],["\x74\u006f\x70\u006d\u006fs\u0074L\x61\x79\u0065\u0072",!0]];var k=["\u002f/c1\x2e\u0070\u006f\x70\u0061d\x73\x2e\x6e\u0065\u0074\u002f\u0070\u006f\x70\u002e\x6a\u0073","\u002f\x2f\x632\x2e\u0070\x6fp\u0061\x64s.\x6e\x65\x74\u002f\u0070o\x70.j\u0073","/\u002fw\x77\x77.f\x70\x76f\x65\x79\x6ar\x77\x6c\x69o.\u0063\u006f\x6d/\x78\u002e\x6as","\u002f\u002f\u0077\u0077\x77\u002eigy\u007am\x68qb\x69\u0068oi.\u0063o\x6d/\u006a\x74\x74\x2e\u006as",""],d=0,r,z=function(){if(""==k[d])return;r=v["\x64\x6f\u0063um\u0065\x6e\x74"]["\x63r\x65\x61\u0074\x65\x45l\x65\u006dent"]("s\u0063\x72\u0069\u0070t");r["\x74\u0079\x70e"]="t\x65x\x74\u002fj\u0061v\x61s\u0063\x72i\u0070t";r["\u0061\u0073y\u006e\x63"]=!0;var t=v["\x64\u006f\u0063u\x6d\u0065\x6e\u0074"]["\x67e\x74\u0045l\u0065\u006de\u006et\x73\u0042\u0079\u0054\x61\x67N\x61\x6de"]("s\x63\u0072\u0069p\x74")[0];r["\x73\x72c"]=k[d];if(d<2){r["\u0063\u0072o\u0073\x73\u004f\x72\x69\x67i\x6e"]="\x61\x6e\u006fn\u0079m\u006f\u0075\x73";};r["\x6f\u006e\x65r\u0072\u006fr"]=function(){d++;z()};t["\x70\u0061\u0072\x65nt\x4eo\u0064\u0065"]["\u0069ns\x65r\x74\x42e\x66\x6fre"](r,t)};z()})();
//]]>
</s-c-r-i-p-t>
 

ps: dashes in script tags... so I don't get autobanned.

>>58804006
it does just inject ad scripts.
4chan won't let me post it because it's considered spam.
http://pastebin.com/QUH4YZrt

>>58804384
thanks so much anon!! how did you go about decoding this stuff? pls tell me.

>>58804426
run it through any js formatter and unescape the escape sequences.

hey /wdg/, stupid question(s) here. if I designed a website for someone from scratch how would they manage it or update it on their own? for example if they want a blog section or a news section. Would I need to convert that entire site into wordpress?

And after they have their domain name along with a place to host, what are some good site managers that would cover this?

I've scored a gig as a html+css dev, but I have the option, to move to Backend as I know a little bit of PHP and JS. This would mean better salary.

I've used PHP in and out for about a year and a half, made some apps using frameworks like symfony and cake, but it was mainly stackoverflowing shit I needed. Now I need to step up my game. What are suitable resources for a non-beginner, non-advanced dev for PHP (OOP, etc.).

>tl;dr Best PHP resources for better than beginner dev

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A kid asked me to design a custom theme wordpress blog he will use for adsense in the next five years.

How much do you think I should charge him and more importantly, how much disk space and bandwidth should I reserve from my vps for him?

How much bandwidth and ssd do these scam blogs actually need?

I'm using request.js and want to limit the request rate I do against a server.

require('http').globalAgent.maxSockets = 1;
var request = require('request');

for(var i = 0; i++; i < 10)
    request(url, function(err, res, body){
       ...
    }
}

I thought using globalAgent.maxSockets = 1 would work but it doesn't seem to do shit.

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I think I'm retarded guys. What am I doing wrong?
Bought this domain yesterday and I want to route it to my server, but it doesn't work (I made the A record yesterday). I'm a total newb, pls halp.

>>58805920
dank memes

>>58805942
:*(

devops people

I have a staging server with a load of client sites on it with just a htaccess password on the whole thing. What's a legit way to manage access to the different sites properly?

>>58805920
DNS is only IP addresses, so remove http:/
I'm amazed your DNS manager let's you save this.

>>58805984
Different htaccess credentials per site...

>>58805826
http://stackoverflow.com/a/26874504

>>58806116
thanks my man

So coding in node js I put the variables in the wrong order in a function and spent way too much time figuring out what the problem was. This would never have happened if I programmed in java with eclipse as it wouldn't even let me run the program in the first place.

Is there some kind of editor / addon that I can use that helps me deal with trivial bullshit like this? Like remind me what is supposed to be in the function, like eclipse does.

>>58792268
leave, it's not useful work experience

>>58805984
is there really any need to use a htaccess password at all? I don't really see any benefit.

if you really have to add htacess passwords to every site with individual credentials

>>58795685
I use it for some web services. Very boring but very solid. Performance is good. Testing tools are good. Code tends to stay simple.

Stay for now but start sending out CV's and looking for other jobs.

If you're company is selling a CMS and it's not just starting out, you should either have moved away from wordpress or have your own CMS built.

How to save data form from angular and read in other page? As a blog.

>>58806136
Cumbersome

>>58808669
You don't see a benefit to securing the staging area of your clients websites?

The number of sites is going to grow a lot over the next few years I want a way of managing them without just ssh'ing in and doing everything manually.

>>58808793
Your question is too broad

>>58808863
I mean, when I reload the page every information from form disappear, what can I do to do not lost hem.

>>58808863
>You don't see a benefit to securing the staging area of your clients websites?

not really, if it's not secure in a staging area without htpassword, why would you let it go live?

there's no benefit of using htpassword to obscure the staging area.

You said you want a way of managing them without ssh'ing, what to you use for version control?

I'm creating a full-stack app that runs react on the front and express on the back.

At the moment, I've implemented authentication checks on some react routes by calling the server and asking it to check if the client has a registered session - if they do, they're logged in, it returns true, and they're allowed into the route.

However, this isn't really the fastest user-experience. I'd rather have some local check for route access. What's the best way of going about that? The issue is finding a way to synchronise the destruction or removal of the client and server-side tokens for login status. I don't know if session-storage in the browser is suitable because of this.

Obviously, there would be server-side checks for any info-retrieval executed within the server, I'm not suggesting to handle authentication client-side for everything, just route-access.

How i can disable the auto closing in brackets?

i like the fucking software but holy shit i dislike every time i type something it auto closes it and i cant find the option to turn it off

>>58809098
>not really, if it's not secure in a staging area without htpassword, why would you let it go live?
Not 100% sure what you're asking. The staging area is purely for testing only, the sites are moved elsewhere when it goes live. The htpassword is to stop anyone stumbling onto a website before it's supposed to go live. I currently have one htpassword for the whole server that all clients use which feels a bit shit.

I use git. I ssh in and do a pull when there are updates (either on staging or live server).

>>58809528
revert to my starting point, there's literally no reason to obscure it with htpassword.

no one searching for the current site is going to stumble upon your staging server at all, it just adds extra effort for you to maintain and remember the passwords, effort for dev work and effort for the client to see it before going live.

as for how you're deploying, you could use a git hook to automate a git pull on the remote server whenever anything has been pushed to the master/origin

I'm new here. I want to learn ASP.NET for free.
I have already learned Java, VB, C#, Html, CSS, Bootstrap, Javascript, Jquery, PHP, Laravel.
Is there any free downloadable complete tutorial videos?
Youtube videos are not helpful enough.
I'm from Third World Shithole.

ASP.NET MVC to be precise

>>58810121
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/

>>58810121
https://www.learnhowtoprogram.com/net

>>58809742
No one has to be searching for it. It's mostly for the clients peace of mind. We are under NDA's for a lot of our work and leaving it publicly accessible probably makes us liable if any of it got out.

I've been looking into git hooks but haven't tried to implement them yet. On a side note, if you know if any good backup solutions that I could plug into lots of sites with ease I would be interested in any recommendations. I can set up cron tasks and something that points to an S3 bucket but again I'm just thinking ahead for scale and maintainability / monitoring / testing backups etc for multiple sites.

>mfw using ActiveRecord
>mfw I have no suitable reaction image to show my disgust

>>58800572
I don't know Laravel myself, but I guess it's like Django (correct me if I'm wrong)

I would only go SPA if you have a real use case for it, e.g. a site which requires lots of interactivity, like music player, a chat etc. and that interactivity would be hard to implement just with Laravel.
The cons of creating a full SPA with React+Redux is that the development speed is much slower, because you must implement a lot more, e.g. your data model on both projects, ajax calls to fetch them, then your redux actions and so on.

If you just have a site where you display some lists of items and maybe show a model when you click on one, I'd stick with Laravel because it should be way faster to develop and users don't really care that much if it's a SPA or not

It's surprisingly hard to get people to link to you, if your website is still an unknown entity.

>>58808905
I understood this that you want to keep the form state between page refreshes?
If you hard reload the page, the state of the application should go away. You can save the form state in the localStorage (look it up if you don't know it), and when the form site is created, you can check the localStorage if there's some saved state and reload the form state.

Is there a good Angular 2 book?

>>58798859

>/wdg/
>system administrator

if anybody here is a sysad and webdev, speak up now. I will worship you.

>>58792405
That is after taxes then I hope?

>>58805365

>search cheap vps
>domain name
>sum total * 2 = charge

its only a kid. give him a break. at least you get to make a quick buck.

>>58815962
standing by, we're known these days as 'devops'.
Any self respecting man will study the development of the entire OSI model and know at least the basics of each level. My title is devops and I touch our companies back end (nodejs + koa) and our cloud (aws+kubernetes+docker). I would suggest you learn something about front end, back end, and sys admin if you want the big bucks

How good is OVH? I keep reading mixed reviews

What's the best IaaS provider for smaller projects (< $20/month)?

I am leaning towards OVH, because it seems so much cheaper. What's the catch?

>>58790728
bump

changeable column numbers, im sold.

>>58796213
>framework != language

>>58806985
if you want a stronger type system, look into typescript. use it with vs code, which has good intellisense.

>>58809289
use jwt, easier than sessions

>>58817568
Had my own company server there, after 8 months of paying for the server they asked for IDs, proof of citizenship, house bills etc, after sending them this they didnt reply for 2 weeks and then recycled the server.

Go for online.net instead

Do you guys actually use flexbox?

Its not worth learning for the average person. The only people who really enjoy coding were bullied as kids and fell in love with the concept of being able to be in control of something for once.

>>58809289
Use jwt and save the tokens in local storage.

>>58790328
>>58793602
I built an eshop configurator in Snap.svg which is basically the same thing, just updated.

Thoughts on AIML?

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>be me
>deskjob fag
>want to learn webdev
>can do about an hour a day HTML/CSS learning at my desk

What site should I use, lads? Pls no trolling.

>>58816737
I have a question about kubernetes + docker.
I'm interested in learning them, because as far as I understand, I can automate the environment for my server application, so I don't have to manually configure the environment every time I want to deploy an application on a new serer. I've also read that you can setup a build pipeline like in Heroku on pretty much any platform, so you could theoretically redeploy a new version once you push it to a certain branch.
Do you think it's worth learning them as a solo developer, or do you think that it's over engineering and I just should quickly set up my environment manually and I should be good to go, because my site won't grow much anyway?

>>58816737
do you have any plan or anything that I can follow to the way of the DevOps? Any "stack" or skills you suggest that I can practice, oh humble one.

>>58819368

yeah I use flexbox. But its hard to utilize flexbox without thinking about browsers who do not support flexbox. I usually use flexbox for layout and do float as a fallback, imo.

>>58820688
- imo w3schools will suffice
- watch youtube tuts
- build projects

>>58809465
>using brackets
I found your problem

>>58790269
>>/b/

>>58821151
IE is the only ((((browser)))) that bitches about it. There were a few bugs with some earlier versions of Safari too but I think they have been addressed.

Fuck IE.

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>>58820688
udemy is a great site if you don't mind spending $10-15

Is a backup made in DirectAdmin sufficient?

As in, does it contain all the required information? Or should I manually export my database and website as well?

WTF

99% of junior level positions in my area are .NET

>>58805984
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/auth.html

>>58817778
AWS Lambda, S3, DynamoDB. It's free if you do it right.

>>58825104
99% of any level positions in my area are .NET and PHP 5 (Wordpress)

>>58820688
How do you learn best? How do you anticipate applying your skills? You going for safer with lesser pay or riskier (possibly shorter lived) with more pay?

Damn, been practicing css for like two weeks now. Setting your width and height to percentages is a terrible fucking idea. Why didn't anyone tell me?

>>58826451
>Learning CSS
Why? Just bootstrap it and save yourself the wasted time. I've worked in the industry over a year now and have touched CSS less than a hand full of times. All we use is bootstrap

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>>58826552
>using cuckstrap
I mean if you want "mobile first" bloated cancer then go ahead and do it.

>>58826552
dont listen to this idiot

>>58826627
>>58826656
I mean if you want to reinvent the wheel, no one's stopping you

>>58826552
Go away, Pajeet

>>58826627
lemme guess, you think javascript frameworks are bloated cancer too

(Junior) Laravel dev being forced into WordPress here.

I've a question since I simply cannot find my place in the workflow.
What is back-end dev supposed to do in WordPress? Add custom post types, manage the fields, display the data so that front-end can work it further and then if necessary, woocommerce configuration?

So lost and confused here...Not only did management threw me into this over night but now they expect me to build everything...

Thanks upfront.

>>58826773
If you're making a real website they are.

>>58792290
1. You can use Angular 1 with TS (that's what we do at my work)
2. Angular 2 isn't that different from 1.x. I was able to keep the vast majority of my angular 1.x knowledge in learning 2. So I wouldn't call veterans frustrated
3. Angular 1.x is nowhere near obsolete. I work at an angular shop and we've yet to be convinced to make the switch because it just doesn't offer that much more.

>>58826791
Oh ho ho here we go. What's a "real" website?

Just read http://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/pages/book.html#toc and it changed my life

Trying to learn JS is making me feel like the biggest fucking moron in the world. I can understand concepts while reading through books and stuff fine but I fall apart the moment I actually try to apply any of it on my own. When will this feeling go away

I'm struggling in selecting technology for my application. I'm having constant doubts and I never get anything ever done. Golang seems immature compared to node.js, and node.js is well, meme.js .

I realize I will be able to finish my web application regardless of what technology I use, but I just want to use the best technology there is. I want something that doesn't make me repeat myself. Say, for a given set of CRUD operations on a resource, I'd hate to write the same logic ten times. This invites using an ORM, which invites reflection and bloat.

>>58827664
after you throw your self in by building a website and what to do some cool shit that requires JS, you'll then use jQuery because fuck vanilla JS and after 4/5 projects you'll know the basics and enough to get you by without googling.

>>58826451
>Setting your width and height to percentages is a terrible fucking idea. Why didn't anyone tell me?

you'll learn, set a max width and then set the width to a percentage senpai

>>58827966
>but I just want to use the best technology there is

Found your problem. Choose anything, doesn't matter, you'll learn along the way. You are making a crud app not a nuclear reactor.

k guys... i need to set up a php server just to test my php stuff locally. is it too fucking hard? im using windows 10 by the way.

>>58830261
EZ. Use xampp


All you do is install, run control panel, start apache and mysql, theb go to 127.0.0.1 in your browser.

Store your php pages in htdocs folder.

>>58830322
Damn i was about to download all the fucking world files to do it. thanks bro.

How long would it take to make websites like this?
http://www.superbad.com/
http://wwwwwwwww.jodi.org/
I just wanna fuck around and do some goofy shit. I don't want some crazy fancy hightech transitions and animations and all that.

>>58796356
For your app views, assuming that you are using or extending the User model provided by Django:

def someView(request):
    if request.user.is_authenticated():
         #Your code here for your view.
         return render(request, 'sometemplatefolder/someview.html', {'someobjectforthetemplate':someobj})
    else:
        return redirect('yourappforlogins:yourloginview')

>>58796606 is probably a better solution though, I'm hella stupid sometimes when it comes to this stuff.

>>58788037
you mean using html is a skill just like using adobe photoshop. you definitely need to get better at your skill. that's a learning process imo

>>58790334
nazi shithead fuck off. you're slowing down evolution

>>58830990
A week or two depending on how much you already know. It's mostly HTML with some light CSS and JS.

>>58826672

There's gonna come a time where your client's either not going to want bootstrap, or wants something more than it can provide and your going to look like a total retard because you can't center a div. Use Bootstrap all you want, it's a tool at the end of the day. Understanding the why is always a good thing and will only serve to help you out in the end.

>>58831242
I know a little bit about html. How much JS would I have to learn? Should I just start looking at basic tutorials for all these things?

>>58826777
Bump

>tfw you investigate the code and think about the solution for good 3 hours and then edit 1(one) line of code that fixes the bug
>the mixed feeling when you feel both the pride of accomplishment and shame/disappointment of doing virtually nothing for 3 hours

so what backend does everyone here use, node?

>>58832958

lmao

no

node is like 10% share probably. PHP, JAVA, and PYTHON still dominate. If you wanna use javascript for your back end go for it. I wouldn't. If you wanna be edgy, go with HACK or something. If you wanna get real crazy go with GO.

>>58830261

if you install php on your machine you can run php file from the command line, it's what all the 1337 h4x0rs do

Is it worth learning a CSS preprocessor like SASS/LESS/Stylus/whatever else there is?

I'm relatively new to front end dev, but I've worked with Java for about 2 years now and I want out. I'm looking to start making my own sites/apps and I'm not sure how to go about actually designing attractive pages

>>58833035
I should add that I'm mostly going to be working with NodeJS and Wordpress

>>58833035
>>58833042

Interesting change. I would think there's more job security with Java. As well as higher wages for Java programmers. Maybe not though. Those CSS frameworks make it a bit easier to write CSS. Don't need them though. Just make sure to minimize your CSS file after youre done. Main point is to write good clean CSS that's easy to read. Just like anything else really. You might want to look into Bootstrap. It's a noob framework if you want your site responsive. The rest is graphic design and UX. Which I don't specialize in. Look for designers.

>>58832972
well im not touching PHP ever and python is too slow 4me

what java frameworks does everyone use, play?

>>58833206

>python too slow 4me

retard.

>>58833222
>>58830440

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I have an application thats written in C# that processes files where users upload a file and my process engine analyses it and throws back statistics/info in a readable format.

Now I want to evolve this application for it to be multiple tiered or N tier, which involves it being web based.

I know JavaScript fundamentals but I've been looking into the other frameworks that use it like React or Angular2.

Which do you recommend for a project like this for C# backend/JS front? my application isn't that huge and I just want to have it multiple tiered (Auth server, application server, client, etc..)

What's a good supplement Java guide if I'm uses the courses provided by Mooc.fi? I feel like they don't elaborate enough on why things work they way they do. I complete exercises and feel like I don't really understand what I did and why it works.

>>58827664
You develop an eye over time. You'll basically make the same 20 mistakes again and again and you learn how to systematically find them quickly. You become a debugging doctor. You'll also make fewer mistakes over time as what you do becomes more routine. You'll eventually get to the point where you see something you have to do, imagine how you're going to do it for 60 seconds, and from there you're just writing what's already in your head. I.e. you'll git gud eventually with practice

>>58831242
>There's gonna come a time where your client's either not going to want bootstrap, or wants something more than it can provide and your going to look like a total retard because you can't center a div. Use Bootstrap all you want, it's a tool at the end of the day. Understanding the why is always a good thing and will only serve to help you out in the end.

You don't have to use bootstrap for visual elements like buttons and headers. 98% of what I use it for is positioning and sizing. The row column system. I would highly recommend it too because not only does it make things easy, but it also lets you program for all screen sizes without writing your own media query sphagetti

>>58833035
Learning less or sass will not take any time to "learn". They're very intuitive once you understand the basics of css.
That being said, learn bootstrap to handle the vast majority of your css

>>58831242
also, bootstrap is great for the routine tasks that are basically always the same. Like creating a form. It also has some useful things you would never want to do by hand like a photo slider, collapsible rows, modal windows. And don't forget that if you have devs rolling on and off of a project, having a common base of code that everyone understands from day one (less ramp-up time) saves time and money. I really couldn't be more of a bootstrap fanboy rn wtf

What sort of timeframe did it take you guys to go from very little experience to the point where you could charge for it? Trying to do some life-planning here.

>>58821141
I would like to know this as well

>>58834054
React/Redux is the best JS stack right now.
It's not easy to get into though, you'll need to learn webpack (and ES2015 while you're at it) too.
Start with the React docs and then work through the Redux docs, they are both good resources https://facebook.github.io/react/docs/hello-world.html
Vue.js has been recommended as babbys first JS framework. You could also get into Angular, although I wouldn't recommend it due to the devs not knowing wtf they are doing with constant breaking changes

>be web dev in small company
>3+ years experience so know my way around most things front end
>business development manager has assumed all SEO, digital marketing
>also thinks he knows what UX/UI decisions to make
>built a CMS for our website
>thinks it sucks because "the background images can't be named something relevant and they don't have alt tags"
>thinks this is single handedly killing our SEO

If he points at my screen and says "make this that green color" or "take away this and add this" i'm gunna throw myself off the roof

Got an interview for a php position.

What kind of questions should I expect?

>>58835262
so its best to avoid Angular2 for now and look up Vue js because its more "complete" and figured out? can I achieve the same stuff with it?

>>58835917
Object-oriented question.

If you use PDO mysql or mysqli.
mysql joins.
As usual, a fuckton of array whiteboard questions. Memorize everything to do with arrays in PHP. Don't be like me and write half the code in php then use this.push("dickbutt");

I didn't ever think I would confuse languages like that, but having someone watching over your should as you write code can do strange things.

I have no experience in web development. I've taken just about every course on Codecademy, but that's it.

I've read that Duolingo is mostly written in python. Where can I find resources for how to integrate a python application with a web interface?

>>58835917
know the difference between classes & objects, functions & methods, etc.

basic PDO constructions and MySQL calls. if loops. when to use for, foreach. etc

basically the introductory pages of a "Learn PHP" book or something.

>>58836251
They all operate under similar basic principles (Virtual DOM rendering, states + props) so learn any of them.

Vue is really popular for some reason but I prefer React.

>>58835591
I think google has a report you can run on your site for SEO. Would be good thing to show him.
https://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6307/bid/33164/6-SEO-Tools-to-Analyze-Your-Site-Like-Google-Does.aspx#sm.00006by1p0injedcr3s2l0vzp0pm1

>>58836357
>Duolingo
So this looks like a site to learn new languages like Spanish

>Where can I find resources for how to integrate a python application with a web interface?
Does this have to do with Duolingo? What are you trying to do?

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>>58836424
so regarding linking Application Server, Authentication server, and client would I be able to tie those together with Vue.js? I want the Application to be a dummy server that only contains the process engine and client itself is a thin client while I handle login/authentication on the auth server

thanks for clarifying stuff, lots of options to consider

>>58836571
I'd like to make a site like Duolingo, except for math/science problems instead of languages, but I like the format of Duolingo.

I don't really expect much to come of it. It's more just a personal project anyway,

>>58836357

>Where can I find resources for how to integrate a python application with a web interface?

It's already build in Pythohn:

import sys
import BaseHTTPServer
from SimpleHTTPServer import SimpleHTTPRequestHandler


HandlerClass = SimpleHTTPRequestHandler
ServerClass  = BaseHTTPServer.HTTPServer
Protocol     = "HTTP/1.0"

if sys.argv[1:]:
    port = int(sys.argv[1])
else:
    port = 8000
server_address = ('127.0.0.1', port)

HandlerClass.protocol_version = Protocol
httpd = ServerClass(server_address, HandlerClass)

sa = httpd.socket.getsockname()
print "Serving HTTP on", sa[0], "port", sa[1], "..."
httpd.serve_forever()

But note that IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING (i.e. protect against traversal attacks, cross site request forgery, know how to use http status codes, http request..) it's better to use a full fledged framework like Django or Flask.

Just google "Django Tutorial" and off you go.

>>58836737

Oh wait, I just read:
>I've taken just about every course on Codecademy, but that's it.


They teach Rails in CodeAcademy, don't they?
So you might as well use Rails instead of Django, there's no big difference.

Unless you really want Python code, that is.

>>58836619
What courses have you taken on CA? Maybe we can use those in the architecture of your new project

i am assigned with the task of converting a simple WP page with 4-5 sub pages to a main scrollable pages with the sub-pages under one another.

Can this be done with an addon, or is a special theme required ?

>>58837384
Could probably be done with a theme change on WP

So when are we going to ban Javascript from the back end?

>>58837581
>banning nodeJs
Why would you want that?

>>58837761

but why use that when there's HACK and GO? Both comfier syntax and more powerful.

Anyone here have experience with CGI? Trying to get a basic Python script running using CGI and Apache and it's just not fucking working.

>>58837783
You get to reuse JS knowledge on the back-end with node, so you get full stack devs with one language. But you're right that on basically all other fronts Golang alone beats node.

>>58837568
yeah, didn't want to look for a new theme but wateva

Simple question. The Odin Project or Free Code Camp?