/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI

As long term WM user I think I'm going for a DE this time, what should I choose?
xfce or KDE?

>>58757053
>tfw Ubuntu and Linux literally destroys your life

>>58757126
It's okay as a first distro. It has some cool features but most of those are part of budgie so not necessarily Solus exclusive. It's going to be very similar to Ubuntu or Mint in that it "Just Works"™.

>>58757361
Solus is quite straightforward and easy. Just keep in mind that it doesn't have nearly as much support as most bigger distros such as Ubuntu (Solus literally has 3-5 packagers/devs). Assuming your system isn't old as heck, I'd recommend you to try the Budgie version as it's their flagship and a bit more modern than Mate.

Solus project are trying to do some pretty big changes this year. They're switching Budgie to Qt, a new package manager, containers for 3rd party applications etc. Their current 3rd party installation code seems to be spaghetti, installing Chrome can take an hour lmao

If you find Solus to not have enough packages/support, don't be too mad and try Ubuntu or something else

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Any recommendations for backup software that supports encrypted backups to amazon drive?

rclone would've been perfect if it supported versioning like rsnapshot.
rsnapshot would've been perfect if it supported third party backends like rclone.

>>58757097
Xfce is simpler, KDE is powerful

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Wanted to run linux virtually just for class to learn linux basics and to learn C..

The idea is to also have it in a folder that sync's through my synology so I can run it on multiple machines (not at the same time of course or the syncing might fuck it up?)

Should this work?

What OS should I use that is virtualbox friendly? Doesn't need to have a desktop, I need to learn VIM anyways also.

Maybe centos?

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>>58757751
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>58757751
get debian (netinstall), so later you'll have experience with all other debian based distros like ubuntu etc

>>58757806
I like the idea of arch but I know that'll be a fucking mess with updates and syncing across multiple machines, and since I am just learning I dont need it to be very powerful and bleeding edge

>>58757825
>the idea of arch
What do you mean? Any netinstall variant comes barebones like Arch, so you can build your system yourself.
That said, Arch is piss easy. Install takes an hour reading and copy pasting and you're done. The breakage thing is a meme. Things may break, but not as often as it get's meme'd here.

>>58757843
GNU/Linux*

>>58757852
but all the distros play well with virtualbox so that aspect should be non-issue?

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>>58757871
GNU plus Linux

>>58757843
Should run any linux distro and desktop environment without a problem.

I'll shill my own personal preference which is Fedora. It has official spins that feature various desktop environments or you can install the "main" gnome desktop environment.

I've gone distro hopping several times but always end up back at fedora because it just works so damn well.

>>58757882
Yep, not an issue. Just pick what fits your needs.

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>>58757903
Arch with 200% more autism, the distro.

>>58757843
That'll run anything you throw at it. If you go the Ubuntu route, I'd advise against stock Ubuntu. Ubuntu MATE and Xubuntu are pretty nice. If you want to go the Arch route, try Antergos or Manjaro.

>>58757916
I don't think so, Tim. Void is like Arch in good. More freedom, less failure.

>>58756963
>>58757580
Cont...

What kind of essay would a middle aged woman be interested in relating to something I want to learn?

Apparently, UNIX seems to boring and I'm NOT doing social media...

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>>58757916
>implying you have to configure you install manually like it's 1950's bell labs or some stupid shit
>literally systemd

>>58757943
The history of consumerism on the Internet

bitches love shopping :^)

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>>58757053

>>58757947
>le systemd is bad meme
People like you give distros without systemd a bad name and turn it into actual meme autism. Thanks.

>>58757972
reddit

Solus is scaring me. It was SO HARD shilled on /g/ that I think there MUST be something really really wrong with it.

>>58757900
GNU/Linux*

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free rare arch pape

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>>58757972
name one reason why systemd should be doing the million things it does now. Defend it's continued hostile takeover of linux as a whole. The devs are fucking with the linux kernel, denying any fault and then trying to force any patches to be made to the kerenl itself rather than their shitty software. Allowing systemd to run wild is like giving a president more and more emergency powers during a time of strife until one day you have a dictator.

>>58758044
GNU/Linux*

>>58758044
idk man, did you use gno+lunix before systemd? it was a real clusterfuck
systemd made things easy

>>58758044
this is what happens when you fail to realize that openness is a double edged sword sweetie

>>58758044
>fucking with the linux kernel
heh, this is how open source works faggot

>these people must stop working on any project because they are somehow related to systemd

pure autism

>>58758036
How is this meme called again? I'm out of the loop. Spurdo?

>>58758044
How dare you insult systemd? Just accept it! What could go wrong with NSA/Red Hat having total control of all the low level stuff that sits between kernel and user space? Face it, it's GNU/Linux/systemd now and Red Hat has already won

>>58757971
Fucking kek

So I'm switching to iproute stuff and I've some questions.

What's the equivalent of "arp"?
What's the equivalent of "netstat -tulpen?

Also, I'm trying to display available wlan accesspoints, but

iw dev wlan0 scan 

gives tl;dr output. How to get a more human friendly output?

>>58758080
system is becoming a strict dependency for some things. features the devs have promised to split from systemd have not been done. it's a "eggs in one basket" scenario.

>>58758085
have a look at systemd vs linus torvalds and see what I mean

>>58758260
>here is why I don't like systemd
>comrade you haven't even said anything about systemd is flawed
>here is why I don't like systemd
>you didn't say anything about how systemd is flaed but at the same time you say this like it matters! everyone uses it so it must be perfect :^)

>>58757751
Why not just have separate Linux VMs that have access to a regular fileshare on the Synology?

>>58758185
That is the human readable output. Get friendly with grep or use one of the frontend tools like wicd.

Would telling redshift that I live in New York affect its functionality if I live in the same time zone but a few hundred miles west? Also how do I specify a location for it to use so it will quit begging me to turn on a GPS?

>>58758726
Use location-provider=manual in the redshift.conf. Read man redshift

>>58758509
GNU/Linux*

>>58758726
$ man redshift
you can specify your exact location with -l
for ex. redshift -l 55.7:12.6 -t 5700:3600 -v
try jewgle to get your locations settings
you can also strip geoclue completly by recompiling, there's a flag

>>58757971
hahahaha

>>58758726
>>58758874
>>58758916

http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/sct-set-color-temperature

>>58757092
lol ubuntufags btfo

if zsh is objectively superior to bash, why isn't it the default shell on most systems?

>>58757092
>I'll buy this laptop ecause it's cheaper.
>WTF? My Windows programs don't work.
>I'mma call the new station about this.
Fucking tech illiterates.

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give me a good brainfuck interpreter

Is Ubuntu worth installing? I'm a newbie please help

>>58760442
ubuntu is fine yes. people don't like the default desktop enviroment that comes with it and often say to install on of the other flavours be it kubuntu, lubuntu or whatever.

>>58760442
Personally think Mint is better for newbies
Don't get the Canonical version of Ubuntu

>>58760459
I installed Ubuntu on my laptop yesterday, and I went into experimenting installing openbox and tint2, but I feel like it's bloated as hell

I had a bad experience with debian days ago, the network card wasn't working at all, even with drivers installed

Should I try bsd? Some people told me that is quite good

Anyone got recommendations for TTY fonts?

I've got a 3200x1800 13" screen, so a lot of the ones I like such as artwiz aren't happening. Terminus is legit one of the best fonts but I'm a little sick of it.

>>58758117
I think that one is meant to be a Gondola
Spurdo is the jusd fug my shid ub :DDD one, Gondola has no arms and only legs and a head and never talks.

>>58760492
>3200x1800 13"
lmao what

>>58760442
I recommend xubuntu or lubuntu if you are coming from windows.

>>58760485
bsd isn't linux

just do a minimal install of debian, then a minimal install of whatever DE you want on top of that. it's not difficult, there will be little if any bloat and will give you a bit of an understanding how things work to start off.

>>58760459
>>58760461
>>58760502

Thank you guys, I'll try them tomorrow when I get back from college

>>58760500
Dell XPS 13

It's comfy af, is like a retina display.

>>58760485
>Should I try bsd?
definitely do that if you're enthusiastic about unix

but don't blame freebsd if you have something goes wrong because you're new to *nix
linux is easier to get into, so it might be better to try and solve that problem you have

also, get comfy with the command line
this book can be very helpful in that regard http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

>>58760585
This should probably be in the OP

>>58760601
I haven't checked but the OP has links to /t/ and such with a bunch of helpful guides

>>58760641
Yeah but that particular pdf isn't in the OP

>>58757164
Only for retards like you.

Because debian botched everything I just decide to install xubuntu from liveCD, things went comfy, should I upgrade from 14 to 16 though?

What's it called in KDE's file browser where you press ctrl+i and you can filter the current folders contents by keywords. it's like searching but way faster. Can you do this in mate?

>>58761114
>KDE's file browser
Are you talking about Krusader?
You can just install Krusader and uninstall whatever the hell comes with Mate if you like anon, that's the beauty of Linux.

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So I'm reinstalling Manjaro to see if I can pinpoint a problem, and I decided to take a peak at cinnamon.

Perhaps I just don't see the purpose of cinnamon. I think the menu is kind of ugly, but I see no reason to use it over KDE or Mate, my two DEs of choice.

Is there some breakthrough cinnamon thing I missed? Maybe it lies in themes OR WM but I'd rather just use xfce or something instead.

I mean I'm totally open to it because KDE is still >KDE and I don't really enjoy MATE or Xfce for a desktop experience (especially since dolphin is so good) but it still kind of comes off as a why DE

>>58761188
Get enlightenment :^)

>>58761165
well I'd rather know if there is an obvious way to do with Caja that I'm missing rather than install a whole new program.

>>58761293
Yeah I have no idea anon sorry, I don't use MATE

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I'm thinking of backing up my OS/HDD to another HDD, in case I screw something.
What would be the best way to do it?
I'm using a laptop so I'd need to connect the other HDD to USB port.
Which is better option?

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb -bs 4M

Or

rsync /dev/hda /dev/hdb

>>58757053
xinit will not startx,wdf do I do!!!
I downgraded the kernel and xserver, I do not know what to do.

I'd like to try a few bash scripts i made,
where do I put them? what's the difference between /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin? I want any users including root to be able to run them

>>58761384
Did you follow the instructions here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinit

>>58760459
Yeah, just go for KDE Neon instead of Kubuntu, it's the same but much better.

>>58761057
Current LTS is 16.04, I see no reason not to upgrade

>>58761426
yes xstart does not do shit exec i3 does not do shit, I am lost at what to do.

>>58757053
Which file manager is able to display large thumbnails without too much spacing in between them, while at the same time is being capable of displaying folder sizes (in K/M/GBytes) in detail view?

Also what would you recommend as windowsbabbeh's first distro/DE without that unity crap?

Thanks!

>>58760519
this. It's called debian netinstall.

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>>58760958

>>58761588
Read /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there is any interesting shit in there.

>>58761588
I mean do you have more details on what goes wrong because if you follow xinit's instructures it should work. Put the log in a pastebin or something

>>58761590
Xfce and KDE are both pretty simple for windows users as far as desktop environments go

>>58757097

>apparently used a "WM" for a long time
>still has to ask that question
>still doesn't know that he could have installed the single components from an environment with his window manager

Kill yourself you lying, pretentious idiot.

>>58760524

>retina display
You mean it's a HiDPI display. Stop using marketing buzzwords.

>>58761891
Yes dwm since it came out, actually no idea how the DE world is looking in Linux nowadays it used to be fucking trash.

>>58761914
KDE Plasma 5.9 just came out this week, and KDE began running their ubuntu LTS based "non"-distro to provide latest KDE a year ago, which is what I'm using now. They don't call it a distro because it's a fairly minimal install but you still have the ubuntu repos to install whatever you need. OpenSUSE also does a good job in regards to implementing latest KDE.

No shilling here, I just don't know much about other DEs. I like xfce also but it's rather more geared toward simplicity and there's not much else to it AFAIK.

Any good simple image editors out there? I pretty much just them to crop images, autocropping out black borders and such is a good feature too. gimp has way more shit then I will ever need.

>>58761944
Thanks senpai

>>58762021

You want an image viewer which has cropping functionality. Go through this list and see which one works best for you.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications#Graphical_6

I know NTFS is well supported these days. However, for a secondary storage drive, should I just use NTFS -if- I'm using Linux as my main OS, with Windows on the side just for stupid shit like games?

What can I do on debian that I can't do on *buntu?

I know a teacher that told me once that you could tinker with Debian more, but can't you just install Ubuntu server and install the shit yourself?

>>58762105

Why would you stored your document on an NTFS partition if you only use Windows for games?

No, I wouldn't have any overlap with NTFS and Linux filesystems at all, because it can only bring problems. I wouldn't trust Windows with access to my EXT4 partitions and I certainly wouldn't want to work with files stored on an NTFS partition from within Linux daily because of permission issues.

>>58762150
ubuntu is based on debian. It's basically just debian - easy to use edition ft. nonfree software by default (amazon remix)

>>58762150

>What can I do on debian that I can't do on *buntu?
Nothing. You can do everything the same way on Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, Gentoo or [shitty obscure downstream distribution which does nothing worthwhile]. The only thing you can't do is use the same package manager across them (technically you can, but that's just ridiculous).

>>58762105
Well, if you're going to put windows only games on that storage you're gonna need some of it to be ntfs. Otherwise just ditch ntfs.
There's good ext4 drivers for windows now so you can access ext4 but AFAIK it's read-only that works well. People advise to not mess with write in that regard - and why should you in the first place.

>>58762150

>a teacher that told me once that you could tinker with Debian more
Stop listening to that teacher and take everything Linux related they say with a pinch of salt.

>>58762168
As to avoid having to make multiple partitions and having a fixed amount of space on each, having to access the NTFS one anyways from linux if I need to put something over there, etc. Let's say I torrent shit, I would have to mount that NTFS partition for said games unless I wanted to boot into windows for that purpose as well.

>>58762168

>why would you store your documents
Wow, my brain is giving up.

>>58762198

You only need 2 partitions. One for your Windows and one for Linux. You can mount the Windows one from Linux and transfer your files and unmount it again.

>arch
>pulseaudio
>keyboard has volume knob
>it works in cinnamon and changes the sound
>doesnt do anything in i3
how do I get it to work? I want it to change the pulseaudio setting

>>58762339
>it works in a DE which probably has some kind of volume control/sound program/widget
>it doesn't work in a simple wm

find out the volume control application of cinnamon and run it from i3?

>>58762339

Cinnamon comes with a program which listens to your keyboard presses and runs an appropriate command. i3 on its own doesn't.

Either install something like volumeicon or manually bind your keys to a "command" which changes the volume.

>>58761339
I'd do that with gparted. It will automatically calculates the bs value or invokes e2image to only copy really used data and not the whole partition, free space included.

Hell even using e2image from a terminal is more effective.

>>58762105
just partition it with ext4 for linux and nfts for windows, it will make everything much easier

>want to move some stuff from nfts windows partition to linux ext4 partition
> installed nfts-3g
>thunar shows the drive
>not enough permissions to mount
>sudo thunar
>doesn't see drive

anons

How can I install a program (for example, emacs) into a single directory, so that the entire installation is contained and I can just create a symlink to the executable somewhere in my path?

>>58762415

Which distribution? Chances are it uses udisks2 and polkit, which means you can mount it with udiskctl without being root.

>>58762444

Why?

I fell for the meme and am currently going through my first install of gentoo the handbook seems pretty straightforward. What am I in for?

>>58762523
If you're anything like me, it will go smoothly (much to your surprise) and you will fall in love with portage. Then one day you will emerge world and your laptop's wireless will stop working, so in a fit of rage you format your hdd and reinstall fedora

>>58762523
The install is easy. The headache is figuring out how to install the shit you need so that it works right after it compiles.

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>>58762523
The installation is trivial and the OS will work like literal magic until it stops working, also like literal magic, and then you won't be able to fix it for days on end and you'll have a ragefit and toss your desktop across the room like Superman.

I'm one of those faggots who use a few online services and automated shit here and there. I'm not using a linux distro right now, but what's the best mail client that can run in the background and give me notifications?

A year ago I tried both thunderbird and evolution and I couldn't get those notifications to work on Ubuntu GNOME. I would have to do it all manually.

>>58762543
>>58762565
>>58762573
I figured this was going to be the case I'll probably end up rage quitting when things stop working but for now I'm just going to try to enjoy it while it lasts

>>58762598
Well gentoo is by no means poorly documented so you might be able to find solutions to common problems just by looking through their wiki and Archwiki

>>58762611
The documentation on the handbook has been amazing actually a lot better than the arch wikis imo so I think you're right I'll try to stick with it portage seems really interesting but I don't have a full understanding of it yet

>>58762598
This
>>58762611

As a recommendation, dual boot it with a noobier distro, so you can have somewhere to go and stay productive if you hit a rough patch, and you WILL hit a rough patch.

>>58762664
Thats a pretty smart idea thanks

>>58761686
>>58761697
Is there a log on what updates I did? Maybe there I can find the issue. Cause shit worked I updated,and restarted now no x and waiting for x

How can i use MTW2 on intel igp? On windows it's playable, but on linux it lags like hell.

How do I know which GPU is my system running on? I have a netbook with nvidia GPU.

>>58762773
Looking up the specs for your model on the internet is your first best bet.

>>58762576
Geary does that

>>58762801
No, no I know the specs. I am asking how do I know that my nvidia GPU is running on when I am using the GPU intensive tasks. Because I read that optimus is buggy in Linux.

Btw, I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and the netbook has nvidia ION2 and Intel GMA 3150.

>>58762833
I must try that, thanks.

>>58762739
Playonloonix whine about opengl version.

>>58762709
Most package managers will have a log of that stuff.
I don't know what distro you're running, but it's pretty easy to just search up where it's found.
For example, for Arch: /var/log/pacman.log
Ubuntu/Debian: /var/log/apt/term.log
etc.

>>58762847
Oh, I'm not sure. I would probably try to find an application that displays hardware activity (like one of those widgets you see ricers using) to see if there is any change between switching modes and go from there.

>>58762385
How do you copy free space?

I like the file manager (and theme, to be honest) of elementaryOS.

I guess elementary is already a theme for Xubuntu and such, but is there any way of getting that specific file manager? I dig the columns view. I'm told the distro itself is a complete mess and that's disappointing.

>>58761188
>Manjaro

There's your problem.

>>58762339
>how do I get it to work?

Arch is a hobbyist distro, Anon.
Choose a real one. ;)

>>58762973
Nevermind this, I already found out.

My question now is, would it be better to install Ubuntu and Pantheon on top of it, or elementary?

>>58763071

Works on my machine ;)
The environment, keyboard keys and programs are not distribution specific. Stop posting in this thread, because you have no knowledge. Kill yourself.

>>58763128
You're the hobbyist who managed to get it working. He is right.

>>58762339
Arch to stop working on i686.

>>58762339
You can bind the keys to control audio through i3s config thats how I did it at least

>>58757053
Windows is best, no problems

I am not gonna lie, >>58763202 is right, what can I say.

>>58763202
Windows is great, it just doesn't do what I need it to :^)

>installed xubuntu
>clicked ubuntu software center
>everything hanged
Where did I go wrong?

>>58757092
OO-BOON-TOO
NOT OO-BUN-TU OR YOU-BUN-TOO OR YOU-BOON-TOO

>>58763202
Doesn't even matter if it's best, this is the linux thread

>>58763277
OO-BOOT-NOOT

>>58763307
OO-BOT-NET

>>58763202
Windows:

1. Doesn't have good font rendering
2.

>>58763357
OO-BUTT-NUT

>>58763366
And loonix has shit fonts. I'm rather looking at jagged Segoe UI and Calibri than some monospace mostrosity that looks worse than Comic Sans.

Show me a better looking monospace font than Courier New. You can't.

>>58763384

Fonts are subjective.
You can install your font on Linux distributions as well.
Kill yourself for not knowing these two basic things and being so cocky about your lack of knowledge.

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>>58760278
Make one yourself: gain experience and self-loathing.

Wazzup

got a problem with my laptop that requires me to reload the wifi kernel module after wake up on some occasions. Script is this:

[Code]
modprobe -rv iwlwifi
sleep 1
modprobe -v iwlwifi
[/Code]

and I put the file in

[Code]
/lib/systemed/systemed-sleep/
[/Code]

but it won't run on wake up. I guess because it has to run as sudo. How do I realize that without typing the password every time the script needs to run?

>>58762444
download the source tarball, extract, read INSTALL or README, make
on debian you can install it with checkinstall instead of make install, give it a different name, like emacs-custom or whatever

>>58763444
sudo chown root:root script
sudo chmod 700 script

>>58763444
ALL ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /absolute/path/to/your/script.sh

>>58763614
>>58763574
what
is this even secure

>>58763444
maybe this helps
http://www.linuxnix.com/suid-set-suid-linuxunix/

is there something like Canonical's kernel security live patch service for Debian?

literally the only reason my servers run ubuntu over debian :/

>>58763834
* that doesn't cost over 9000/month/computer (canonical does it for free)

>>58763834
Not yet.
kpatch will be available on stretch which is expected to be released in Q1/Q2 2017.

>>58763675
setuid won't work on scripts — it's disabled for security reasons on most *nix distributions these days. You can set it, but it'll be ignored.

If I have a process start because of init.d, is there any way to go into it?

>>58763882
but will there actually be some easy/automatic way to get security vulnerabilities patched? perhaps something backed by the debian security team or similar? or will you have to write the patches and/or keep up with new vulnerabilities yourself for patching?

>>58764078
kpatch is a tool developed by redhat for live patching rhel machines.

every package in stable is backed by debian security team.

>>58764103
the program itself, and the kernel components, that's all nice, but how about actual patches to go with it?

>>58764176
how on earth would I know if it's not available yet on jessie?

get your shit together tyrone

>>58764197
rude

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>>58763049
Well I'm looking into my problem but I wanna know what people see in Cinnamon. My friend never shuts up about it.

>>58764259
welcome to the real world bub.

kpatch documentation is available for free.
if you're serious about transferring your work to debian from ubuntu lts you have plenty of time to learn about it before debian stretch becomes stable branch.

but then a question comes to mind. if youre satisfied with how ubuntu handles this, why switch?

>>58757053
How do I make my own GNU/Linux distro?
What is the best way to accomplish this task?

>>58764571
Are you being ironic
Honestly speaking this is one of those things where if you have to ask you aren't ready for it

>>58764571
Linux From Scratch.
It's a set of tools to make your own distribution

>>58764617
Or maybe they are just interested in how it happens?

>>58764629
Thought he was asking for advice on how to make one, my bad

what is the default formatting of date?
i mean: what flags do i need to give date so it outputs the same format as without flags?

>>58764754
that depends entirely on your locale.

it will be different on a machine with us_US and pl_PL

Let's say I have an NVIDIA card in my Linux PC and it uses the open driver. If I uninstall the card and install an AMD Radeon into the PC, is there anything should I worry about?

>>58764907
blacklist the driver

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Proin nibh augue, suscipit a, scelerisque sed, lacinia in, mi. Cras vel lorem. Etiam pellentesque aliquet tellus. Phasellus pharetra nulla ac diam. Quisque semper justo at risus. Donec venenatis, turpis vel hendrerit interdum, dui ligula ultricies purus, sed posuere libero dui id orci. Nam congue, pede vitae dapibus aliquet, elit magna vulputate arcu, vel tempus metus leo non est. Etiam sit amet lectus quis est congue mollis. Phasellus congue lacus eget neque. Phasellus ornare, ante vitae consectetuer consequat, purus sapien ultricies dolor, et mollis pede metus eget nisi. Praesent sodales velit quis augue. Cras suscipit, urna at aliquam rhoncus, urna quam viverra nisi, in interdum massa nibh nec erat.

>>58764915
That means if I change my GTX 760 to an AMD Vega I will have some work to do... is it still the same case if I, say, uninstall an RX 480 from my PC and install the Vega to it?

>>58765000
blacklisting the driver is just editing a line in a single text file.

>>58764932
Quality post make more like this

>>58765038
I was just testing something, don't be a dick

>>58765010
So it's simple as just go into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ('cause I use Fedora) and type

blacklist nouveau

right before I shut down the PC, uninstall the NVIDIA, install the Radeon and boot? And after that all thing is up and running as smooth as hell? I thought there were many more complicated things.

>>58764907
no, and you don't need to blacklist anything, either

>>58765046
You wanted to see if the code snippet worked so you decided to shove a section of lorem ipsum in instead of hello world or test?

>>58765078
ye

>>58765100
I wanted to see the horizontal scrollbar on the code box.

Why are you so inflammatory?

>>58765107
I'm not, I'm just wondering what you were trying to accomplish.

I want to run a dns cache server for that speed and also to log sites visited.

What do I need to do this?

I have ubuntu server running atm

>>58764897
I see, thanks. Will a LC setting fix this or should I use a date formatting to make a script print the same formatting everwhere?

hey guys, I just made this hacker script, is it cool

while sleep .01; do head -n 100 /dev/urandom; done | hexdump -C | GREP_COLORS='mt=00;32' grep 'de ad\|be ef'

How to make vim start with

:set noet

by deafult?

>>58765101
Thanks for your tip. But isn't the name of the open driver for Radeon cards also nouveau? Or is it gallium?

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>>58765196
Try my OC:

 while sleep .01; do i=0; while [ $i -lt 30 ]; do i=$((i+1)); [ $[RANDOM%4] = 1 ] && s="\e[32m $[RANDOM%2]" || s="\e[30m $[RANDOM%2]"; printf "$s"; done; done

>>58765207
neither
nouveau is just for nvidia cards
gallium isn't a driver, rather a component of mesa that helps with developing drivers

you don't need to blacklist nouveau, as linux won't attempt to load it if you don't have an nvidia card installed

>>58765206

edit your $HOME/.vimrc

>>58765246
Implying I did not do it in the first place. Does not work.

>>58765252
-:

>>58765273
>impying
Reddit pls go

>>58765283
>implying implications

>>58765252
try remove the colon

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>>58765294

>>58765242
Thank you very much.

$ uptime
 17:42:23 up 6 days,  1:14,  5 users,  load average: 1,83, 1,49, 1,50

Why does it say 5 users?

>>58765350
botnet

>>58765350
w
to show users

>>58765350
because 5 users have a program running

>>58765387
u: command not found

>>58765350
$ who

>>58765387
are you retarded? that will show on logged in users (and returns only one user: you)

>>58765408
see >>58765410

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>>58765387
>>58765408

>>58765441
there you go friend

>>58765441
>I've no idea what I'm doing, but run this, it will show you something I have no idea what it is, but it looks like it's the answer to your question

>>58765410
>>58765504
how about not being a cancerous little shit?

he asked why uptime lists 5 users.
"who" made the answer clear.


if you want to make a point, tell what you want to say, why who is wrong and what is your suggestion instead of calling everyone else around you a retard like a child.

>>58765350
5 users is a bit misleading, 5 logins would be more human-friendly

when you start a gnome session you have 1 user
when you start another thing which requires a tty login, you have +1 user

>>58765529
uptime/w prints 2 users, but w and who only shows one user

where is your god now?

I haven't gotten laid in a year, I think it might be because of my distro. I'm using Debian stable, what distro do you guys recommend?

>>58765549
post proofs

>>58765551
so you want to join the virus army and blindly reproduce yourself and destroy the planet? install windows 10

>>58765551
idk, i've never gotten laid

>>58765551
what is this getting laid you're talking about?

>>58765583
benis in bagina

>>58765551
install gentoo
get /fit/ and later laid while compiling

>>58765551
Install Arch Linux. When you have a date with a qt, tell her about it.

>>58765551
rpi noobs

>>58757053
Half the time when I boot up ubuntu the wifi doesn't work. I usually fix it on windows by unplugging the device and putting it back in, but here when I do it every device including mouse and keyboard disconnect and won't go back in. How do I fix this?

>>58765608
>tell her about it
implying he wouldn't

>>58765749
broadcom wlan card?

>>58765800
usb adapter

what distro do the oldfags ITT use?
after all distro hopping, where did you sattle?

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uh. Does installing an MBR to a particular partition wipe said partition?

Because my entire terrabyte drive is empty now

>>58765828
ubuntu, debian, arch

>>58765828
>after all distro hopping, where did you sattle?
debian stable
distrohopped for almost 3 years.

>>58765828
Debian Sid, apt-listbugs makes it comfy.

>>58765830
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
>The MBR holds the information on how the logical partitions, containing file systems, are organized on that medium.
also
>2017
>not using GPT

Am I the only one ITT who just uses mpv to listen to music? Really love how even tracker tunes and other stuffs is supported.

>>58765912
I'm actually using mpv for all sorts of media (images, music and movies).

>>58765830
normally you wouldn't place an MBR on a partition at all
but if you meant placing a blank MBR at the start of a disk, then yes, sort of

chances are you've wiped your partition table, this is pretty easy to recover from though, you just need to create your partitions again and it'll be back to how it was

note: do NOT create the new partitions with a tool that also formats the partitions, such as gparted, as that will destroy the contents of the partitions

>>58765828
unironically gentoo
I nearly burst a vein every time it spazzes out though

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>>58765971
Can testdisk do this? I'm not too familiar with working with partition tables, so I don't know exactly how I would go about doing it.

Data must still be there since i started a quick run with photorec and it was basically recovering EVERYTHING, so I believe it.

>>58765828
arch

first tried linux with SimplyMEPIS in 2004, then used various flavours of ubuntu starting from 6.06, then debian, then gentoo, and now arch. been using arch since 2012 and feel quite comfortable with it

>>58766104
just use parted
i hope you remember the exact positions and sizes of your partitions, otherwise it'll be a bit trickier

>>58766129
I really don't. I made the partitions so long ago.

Here is the drive's current partitioning. It didn't seem to change any of the partitioning

Device     Boot      Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *          2048 1933596671 1933594624  922G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2       1933596672 1953523711   19927040  9.5G 82 Linux swap / Solaris

So I might just try what's going on here http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/recovering.html. Seems to be my best option currently.

>>58766105
GNU/Linux*

>>58766185
that's not a blank MBR, no
what exactly did you do?

>>58766227
there's a good chance i've used a GNU program before then, so no, that was the first time i'd used linux specifically

How can I get fonts in Firefox to match the fonts used in Chrome? Not the rendering but the fonts themselves. Why are they different? I'm on Arch.

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>>58766292
>I'm on Arch.

>>58764629
>>58764639
I was just interested
>>58764624
I will look into this. Thank you.

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>>58766332
>1.58 MB

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>>58766332
Well I am.

>>58766368
idk why it generated it that huge, saved

I tried out Kali Linux but I didn't like it very well because of it made my computer lag so should I install arch Linux

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>>58760585
>don't blame freebsd if you have something goes wrong

>>58766400
Learn2optimize your stuff.
For lossless compressing jpegs: jpegoptim --strip-all file.jpg
Or reduce quality (like I did in >>58766368):
convert file1.jpg -quality 40 out.jpg
Look into optipng for pngs and gifslice for gifs.

Happy hacking.

>>58766421
>screenshooting tripfaggotry
riterally leddit

>>58766441
>le reddit maymay

So I'm reading SICP and installed MIT/GNU scheme on my debian machine and I can't fucking figure out how to run anything.

I installed racket but I can't figure that out either.

Help!

>>58766482
like, I'm trying to do write a cube function and this is what happens:

1 ]=> (define (cub a) (* a a a))

;Value: cub

1 ]=> cub 5

;Value 13: #[compound-procedure 13 cub]

1 ]=> 
;Value: 5

1 ]=>

I want to try out programming in LISP. What do I need to install and how to I run a LISP program? Can anyone provide a Hello World example please?

>>58766245
I used the GUI installer for Manjaro. Told it to install to what is currently sdc for me, and I wasn't thinking and set it to install MBR to sdb.

Boot up my system, and the 1TB in question is completely empty. It's been a while since I used a GUI for Linux, but I've always had MBR on this drive so when it asked where to install the MBR I just sorta autopilot selected it

Ok, I'm running mint right now and it has been pretty good so far, but I've recently tried installing i3-gaps and it has been a major shit show.

It's decently riced out so far but I have decided to switch to either Arch, Ubuntu or debian netinstalls.

I just want the distro with the latest updates for all these sick ricing packages.

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>>58765912
>>58765957
But how anons? I need to save a playlist or a way to browse my music.

Is there frontend for making mpv look like MOC?

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>>58766524
Get Manjaro. There's a community editon with pre-riced and set up i3, you just need to change some configs to your likings. While you're at it, also try the bspwm edition. bspwm is 10k times more ebin than i3.

>>58766539
Just mpv ~/.mu/shit/*
Hotkeys work the same way like with video enabled. < back > forth

>>58766583
i dont like the idea of bspwm because it needs an additional program to set up hotkeys...

Hi everyone
So I decided to switch to linux
Tried the LiveCD and enjoyed it quite well
But say I want to install Linux on USB, not use the Live version of it
Is there a way to do it without a second USB? Can I do it on Windows, using a Virtual Machine or something?

>>58766634
Anon, that's the UNIX way: Do one thing and do it well. bspwm manages windows, shxkd manages hotkeys. you can also use a different program like xbindkeys to set up your hotkeys. That's the point of splitting functionality.

>>58766638
GNU/Linux*

>>58766647
still needs +1 package, bloat

>>58766674
Sorry, I thought you're an intelligent person, so let it break down:

You have one program to manaje hotkeys, then you install a program that does something and additional manages hotkeys. Alternativly you install a program that does only it's job and you reuse your familiar program to manage your hotkeys. What is more bloat at the end?

>>58766610
But still no visual aid. I mean something with ncurses.

>>58766674
kek

>>58766674
>muh package count

What linux distro do you guys recommend

>>58766674
that is not how KISS works anon, you must be an arch dev

>>58766638
>using a Virtual Machine or something?
you could try to pass the pen drive to the virtual machine.

>>58766704
drop this in your config, it will not give you a toggleable playlist, but display tags (artist, title, comment, track number, etc)

[media.audio]
display-tags=*

[extension.flac]
profile="media.audio"

[extension.ogg]
profile="media.audio"

[extension.opus]
profile="media.audio"

[extension.mp3]
profile="media.audio"

>>58766751
I doesn't looks like arch lack packages or anything like that

>>58766757
thanks

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>>58766757
nice

>>58766583
Cool, this looks like just the thing I need. Thanks!

>>58766830
ebun

>>58766757
actually I now looked at my config, I saved some notes on how to make a pseudo player

#mpv as music player via minor configuration/script tweaks to clean the interface                                                                              
#Then use 'alias mpa="mpv --profile music"' on .bashrc                                                                                                         
[music]                                                                                                                                                        
vid=no                                                                                                                                                         
msg-level=file=error:ffmpeg=error:input=error:cplayer=no                                                                                                       
load-scripts=yes                                                                                                                                               
lua=~/.config/mpv/scripts/mpa-osd.lua                                                                                                                          
#if lua doesn't work, change "lua" to "script"                                                                                                                 
#script=~/.config/mpv/scripts/mpa-osd.lua

>>58766870
cont.

mpa-osd.lua

-- store cursor position on initialization. Note that this isn't guaranteed
-- to run before initial printing has been done and can be inconsistent.
io.write('\27[s')

function on_track_change(name)
    -- restore cursor position
            io.write('\27[u')

    -- clear to bottom of screen
            io.write('\27[J')
                end

mp.register_event('start-file', on_track_change)

>>58757053
So my wireless card has started to occasionally stop working after an hour. Gentoo with a centrino card. The device just disappears from ifconfig

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>>58766757
Not really related, but there are some pretty cool things you can do with mpv using the lavfi ffmpeg extension, which allows you to do anything which ffmpeg allows. For example, basic filters like noise, blur, rainbow hue etc.

More related: You can use these also to visualize audio. An example right here:

mpv --vo=xv:colorkey=0x000000 --lavfi-complex='[aid1]asplit[ao][a1];[a1]avectorscope=s=wxga:r=15:m=lissajous_xy:bc=200:gc=100:rc=75:bf=5:gf=3:rf=1:zoom=2[vo]' Track.flac

Pic related.

Check out the available filters and how to use them here: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html

Hope some of you guys will have fun with it.

>>58766638
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent

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>>58766930
Another one:

 mpv --lavfi-complex='[aid1]asplit[ao][a1];[a1]showwaves=size=wxga:mode=p2p[vo]' Track.flac

>>58757053
OP, why exactly do you think that 4 fucking links to /wg/ shit are necessary in the OP, but not tlcl?

http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

At least with /flt/ we could edit the template, and stop propagating bad OPs because some faggot removed something and everybody just copy-pasted all the same.

>>58767165
tlcl is cancer, fuck off
it's also in the copypasta collection, btw

>>58767165
fglt*

Is there a way to stop X on Ubuntu without root permissions?

>>58767205
pkill .

>>58767217
lel, that will kill all programs, not just x
>>58767205
enable the hotkey combination

>>58767182
You're the first person I've seen say anything negative about it.

Even so, how is /wg/ not cancer?

>>58767200
So you think that I meant to compare /fglt/ to itself?
Are you braindead or just pretending?

>>58767235
idk buddy, you don't like wallpapers? fine
no need to force your opinions to the op which sould be somehow a summary of fglt peoples

top thread: >>58767265

>>58767165
>http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
how not to use the terminal, the book

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>>58767217
>pkill
Deprecated, use psDooM instead http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/

>>58767319
holy crap, I love you anon

>>58767319
holy shit

>>58767259
I'm not the one making edited OP threads and not bothering to update the pasta.

>>58767298
Got a better one to recommend?
There's a lot of shit in that book I'd probably never use in my life, but it's still pretty nice to have a fairly comprehensive pdf sitting around, especially if you get network problems.

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>>58767319
>sourceforge

>>58767340
bash hackers wiki
graycats wiki
grymoire

these are the only legit sources I discovered for lerning non-retarded cli usage

>>58767355
pussy
https://github.com/keymon/psdoom-ng

>>58767355
the meme is deprecated anon, sf changed ownersq

>>58767380
A BOOK you illiterate fuck!

How is a wiki bookmark going to help you if, for example, your wifi card shits the bed?

>>58767395
That's all well and good for new stuff hosted there, but what guarantees exist about cleaning up the previous mess?

>>58767416
>implying tlcl will help you here

>>58767380
He asked a book.
Something you can buy, read, put on your desk and refer to in the future.

>>58767430
>buying shit
how 'bout no

>>58767428
>why can't I hold all these imaginary alternatives you haven't presented?

>>58767470
How about a free book then, wouldn't that be nice? Oh.

>>58767234
sudo pkill Xorg

>>58767503
>running Xorg as root
>>>/out/

>>58767482
http://linux-training.be/linuxfun.pdf
https://ubuntu-manual.org/
https://debian-handbook.info/
http://www.slackbook.org/
https://www0.sun.ac.za/hpc/images/d/d5/Rute.pdf

From easy to hard.

>>58767522
I blame upstream devs.

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genuine question

what the fuck do pacmans commands mean

>>58767959
man pacman

>>58767959

man pacman

to find out what it does

pacman pac

does nothing sensible

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Okay so I'm kinda getting fed up with this issue now:

I have a USB DAC for sound, it's previously worked find with linux but it seems to be having trouble now since I've done a re-install:

It would occasionally just drop sound and would not work, rebooting a number of times fixed it, so I assume it was a sound car load order problem.

I've now created an asound config file and listed the device that has the literal ID "Device" in there. Rebooted, sound worked fine.

I've done a re-install of my windows 7 vm as it was having stability problems and I wanted to resolve that, decide to listen to some music whilst doing it and I have no sound. Wait hang on a minute, when the vm booted I heard sound, go into windows, play the sample songs, sound works.

Go to host system, play song, no sound, I can't even do a speaker test now, that produces pic related amongst the other errors I'm getting when trying to restore alsa.

Help? I have no doubt that rebooting will fix this, but I assume it will the go again at some point.

>>58768695

Okay so I turn off the vm and now my host system sound is back, the fuck do I reslove this.

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>>58768728
Install Windows 10.