/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Uguuu~~~! ducks!!!~~!

>>58748166
Thanks, doc.

guys i'm freaking out

i'm getting no sound from the right side of my K7XX. i opened up the left side of it and the wires looked fine. i tried opening the right side but the screw wouldn't budge, i'll try it again later with a different screw driver, but from what i could see through the gaps the wires were still connected. i don't know what could be wrong. earlier today i wiggled the wire around that connects to the left headphone and sometimes it would start working normally, but eventually it would cut out, especially if i moved around. could it be the wire? i can just buy a new one for $13, but if the headphones itself are fucked i'm going to be depressed. i love these headphones and can't afford $200-300 to get new ones that are as good. fml

Watching movies and listening to music is pretty much it. Also if cables are detachable, it would be better if they were easy to disconnect, but not super loose.

>Budget
At the most $110 dollars
>Location
United States
>Source
My phone(Samsung Galaxy S7 edge). (On a side note the, I both do and don't regret falling for the samshit edge meme)
>Type of headphone
Any kind that is comfy, won't make me look like an autist, and good (sound and build) quality for the price range
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Has to be Pretty comfy, will be wearing them for long periods of time.
>Sound signature
Not really sure, I'm a newbie audiophile. If there are any you would recommend, go right on ahead.
>Past headphones
My SE215 IEMS just broke because even after doing what the site said, the cord ripped because I can't muster up 20 to 30 pounds of force to pull off the cords properly so I could clean them; also before that I just had a series of shitty skullcandy earbuds

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Thinking about buying some grado sr80e's. What think?

>>58750495
Good sound and not looking like an autist aren't usually compatible, especially with over ears.

But in your price range the Creative Aurvana Live's are decent, don't get the new updated versions.

>>58750644
I've heard creative is shit though, or are these an exception? And how would I get the older instead of the newer version?

are these cans worth 300$?

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>>58750707
oopsie

>>58750674
https://www.amazon.com/Creative-EF0060-Aurvana-Live-Headphones/dp/B000ZJZ7OA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485966113&sr=8-1&keywords=creative+aurvana+live

I can't speak to what the consensus is, I just like my pair.

Pretty comfy and good sound, a bit warm. Not huge and autistic looking, so you can wear them out and about.

Only $50 so you can get some other cans for home listening.

>>58750728
best neutral'ish headphones

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Looking for a good pair of IEMs with v shaped sound sig... my preference is specifically detailed and sparkly treble.

$300-$500 budget.

Looking at Westone W30 right now - good choice?

>>58750495
Edit: would prefer IEMs over, over or on ear headphones.

>>58750781
did you like se215
if not, what didn't you like about it
if so, why not get them again?

My V20 came with h3 B&O play ear buds. They retail for $150, but there's no way I'd pay that for them. They don't sound as good as my $11 Panasonic ear buds.

>>58750794
Loved them, but it is so difficult to pull the cord from the actual IEM, it's just too damn tiny.

If you do choose to get them, get clear and not the transparent black. The transparent black doesn't have the kevlar reinforced cord that the clear has. I used year old clear se215 IEMs, they were completely fine, had my black se215 for i 3 months and they started fucking up half way through.

I would buy them again if I found an older version, the older ones from about a year ago never had static/randomly stopped working, had an easy to remove cable, and the metal in the ear loop never broke. Unlike the new ones I got a few months ago.

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Cop or not? Currently using a portable fiio as a desktop amp with X2's

>>58750728
are those literally from China and cost more than great headphones from reputable brands?

I don't get it. there's a few new brands like that. prices sky high, popped out of nowhere.

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FLAC Internet radio:

mpv https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

Only top tier headphones like the SR-007 allowed. Firefox has flac support now, so you can just click the link

>Budget
$150 dollars.
>Location
Argentina.
>Source
My notebook.
>Type of headphone
Comfy
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy as fuck, I will be using it all the time, mostly
>Sound signature
I'm kinda an audiophile, so the quality must be good.
>Past headphones
Sony EXTRA BASS XB450AP

>>58751246
I've only got a pair of Sony 7506's
What are you gonna do??

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end game autismo special

>want the best clip on headphones possible
>everyone here always just asks me "just get earbuds dude lol"
Fuck yu
I just want clip on headphones. What are the best ones

>>58751572
I'd say the majority of posters here haven't used clip on headphones since they were children.

Take your casual business over to reddit, doubtful you'll get anything constructive here.

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Can anyone identify these?

>>58751572
portaprotties probably

>>58751529
>falling for the HD800 meme

>>58752160
I've seen them before, but can't remember the name
someone will probably be able to name them tho

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>>58752160
>>58752186
nvm found them
hd25

>>58752166
>>58751572

Aren't clip ons. I can't even think of a decent pair, I had some junky Sony ones when I was 12.

Porta Pros would sound way better.

Hell, I bet the $10 JVC flats sound better than almost any clip on out there.

>>58752225
Nice, thanks for the help.

>>58752244
then what the fuck do you see as clip ons?

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>Budget
100 USD, flexible

>Location
Axon 7

>Source
Usa

>Type of headphone
Earbuds w mic
Braided/durable cord preferred.
>Open or closed
Idk

>Comfort level
Comfy preffered

>Sound signature
Idc

>Past headphones
Ifrogz, soundpeats. Both Bluetooth earbuds.
Sony MDR folding headphones

>>58752328
The portapros are not clip ons
The KSC75 are clip ons.
The only other company I know who makes (or at least used to make) these is Audio Technica.

>>58748166
I recently lost one of my tips for in ear headphones and I really can't fit anything in but the smallest tips. Where can i buy small tips that would be comfortable and wouldn't cost a fortune?

>want to fall asleep to sweet music
>earbuds sound like assholes
>headphones are uncomfortable to sleep with, and can't lie sideways

What is a man to do?

>>58752915
Buy speakers

>>58752979
But this is the headphone general.

>>58753009
speaker discussion is allowed here if speaker general doesn't currently have a thread up

>>58753086
Yeah, but sleeping with speakers on is not the same.

>>58753093
>speakers don't sound the same
>earbuds sound like assholes
>headphones are uncomfortable to sleep with

well stop being a fucking faggot

>>58753104
No other options.

>>58753009
Just play it through your phone like a proper normie.

>>58753138
I'd rather die.

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Got this today and loving it so far. Very clean and no fuss amplification!

>>58753273
>using it to amp shitty earbud assholes

ummm???

>>58753308
Shure SE846

>>58753324
Yeah right.

What closed headphones under $300 have the best soundstage, and in general sound closest to an open headphone?

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>>58753353

>>58753505
Nice chink replicas.

>>58752417
are audio technicas decent? what about ew9

>>58753273
>>58753308
>>58753324
>>58753353
>>58753505
kek
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>>58753734
read OP

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Waiting on a pair of shure 535 and hearing protection cups to arrive.

I am going to block everything the fuck out.

what headphones to get for comp gaming? i am currently looking at the ad700x

>>58750728
Got mine for around 360.

If you haven't heard planar magnetics before, it may sound shittier as it did for me. But after burn in they sound much better. Took around 70-90hours before they sounded better than my previous pair(d2000).
For me, they lack the bass.
As someone else mentioned, very neutral.

>>58752290
My favorite pair of headphones, had them for 4-5 years and still use them everyday.
I highly recommend them.

Need headphones+microphone to use while playing some vidya

>Budget
100$ preferable but can work for a 200$ increase
>Location
United States
>Source
Computer (barebone custom built for games)
>Type of headphone
Comfort > Aesthetics
>Open or closed
Open to suggestion, closed pref
>Comfort level
maximum comfort
>Sound signature
Don't know what that is but since I'm working on a budget I'll take what I can get
>Past headphones
Gaming headsets including Sony headsets, Logitech, and other shitty gaming brand sets.

My friend wants me to get Astros but his advise usually leads to razor products so that advice is presumably bunk.

why the fuck does any change I make to the stuff on my mp3 player not change? i'm using a micro sd to hold all my music but I'm unable to make any lasting changes, I can deleted everything and add new stuff but when I disconnect the player from my pc it's all the same. I haven't been able to change anything and its really bothering me. back when I had a sansa this wasn't an issue. but I have to use a ruizu now because sansas are gone and ever since I switched I cant change shit

I want a ~$150-200 dac/amp combo, is there anything more effective than building an o2+odac kit?
http://www.headnhifi.com/diy-kits/o2-kit-full +http://www.headnhifi.com/diy-kits/ODAC-revB-board-only=170+shipping is probably sub-$200
is there a reason to pick a schiit stack over this? Have I neglected or missed something in my research?

>>58751032
>cop
nigger

>>58754990
no, just crossboarding from /fa/ where the term is used often, can you give me an answer please?

If I buy fidelio x2's from amazon am I going to get the shitty gibson ones?

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Hello. I am buying a new headset for 50$ and planning on the Logitech g930 wireless. I have used this headset before and I liked it, but was wondering if there were any decent alternatives in the 50 to 75$ range. I will mostly use these for gaming.

Headphones broke, I don't really know where to start
Budget would be around £100, absolute max is £150. From the UK.
I'll be plugging these into my desktop and phone, nothing serious.
I think I'd want closed headphones, but it's not a major issue.
I'd prefer a semi comfortable pair of headphones but I don't want to severely sacrifice audio for it.

That's about it.

>>58755088
Samson SR950/850
Superlux HD 668B
SHP 9500
Sennheiser 558
ATH-AD500X

If I want to go from mdr-ma900's to a closed headphone, which would have the best transition?

>>58755041
Literally no differences now. QC issues seem fixed.

>>58755176
HM5

>>58751529
Apparently my new laptop can drive my HD650. Would it be better if I get an external dac+amp?

>>58755549
whoops didn't meant to quote

>>58755549
Yes.
I was in the same situation as you. Full volume on my Mac got to fairly loud levels.
With an amp the sound got definitely more clearer and louder.

>>58755476
>QC issues seem fixed
It took me three tries to get a pair that didn't have a channel imbalance.

>>58755476
Thanks anon, good price too

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Ayyyy

I don't notice the difference between 192 and 320

>>58751032
Im not sure it would be entirely worth it or overall that noticeable if you already have a decent fiio dac/amp.

>>58755927
How can you ID the imbalance as someone buying his first set of good headphones, is it super noticable?

Any alternative retailers to amazon and thomann in eu?

>>58750258
It's repairable my dude. Check continuity of the cable with a multimeter to rule out if that's the issue.

If not, open them up completely and check continuity from the cable to the driver contacts.

Headphone repairs are generally really easy.

>>58751572
Koss KC75 or Porta Pros

>>58756068
Doesn't take a genius to detect driver imbalance. I'd imagine he just flipped them and heard the imbalance flipped too.

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>>58748166
Best budget headphones coming through.

>>58750522
Aren't they very fatiguing? All I know is that their flagships do not measure very well. You might just want some modded ksc75s

>>58751529
I don't understand why anyone does this when you can get some motherfucking STAX for 800.
The entire setup actually

>>58756633
I would have bought those if the drivers weren't angled.

>>58756089
https://www.musicstore.de

>>58756919
What's wrong with angled drivers, anon?

>>58756919
What's problem in being angled?

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>>58756929
>>58756933
It significantly lowers the sound quality to my ears, in terms of perceived soundstage and clarity. My theory is it's because they fire less directly into the angle of the ear canal opening. Notice how IEMs are angled in the opposite direction. Also, I've noticed that the sound significantly improves when the drivers are lowered and angled upwards.

Opinion on this headphone ?

http://m.gearbest.com/on-ear-over-ear-headphones/pp_342067.html

>>58750522

With Grados, your source material matters a lot. Their sound signature is very crisp and detailed, so they are NOT forgiving to lower res files and streaming. But if you have good clean source material, their warmth and punch make for a very rewarding experience. Also, they're made in USA, so for me, that automatically makes them more appealing. I can speak from experience that their customer service is excellent.

>>58754299
someone pelase repsond

>>58757064

IEMs are angled so they stay in your ears, dipshit.

>>58757064
And my theory as to why the perceived soundstage sounds worse is IRL sound comes from all directions and your outer ear shape and angle already does the job of putting more emphasis on sound coming from front.

>>58757979
Because the ear canal opening is angled, so in theory sound entering from that direction is clearer.

>>58758098
What headphones do you currently use, anon?

>>58751246
>top tier

well fuck u imma listen to your jap musek with my sr80i's from mobo audio

>Budget
~$100
>Location
USA
>Source
The back of a very weak work computer, so it needs to be sensitive.
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very comfortable
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter.
It's for work, so it just needs to have a detachable 3.5mm cord so I can use a vmoda boom pro with it.
I have some brainwavs hm2's right now and they do the job, but are very uncomfortable.

>>58758241
Current: Monoprice 8323, RP-HJE120, K44 (underrated with untapped potential IMO, currently modding). All budget-tier but with non-angled drivers.
Past: PortaPro, KSC-75, HA-RX300, HA-RX700, T40RP MkII (modded), M40X, Piston 3.

>>58758506
akg k182?

You probably want something similar to a DJ headphone.
CB1 also comes to mind, I think they're supposed to be comfy.

>>58758585
>akg k182
Thanks, I'm just having an insanely hard time coming up with closed, detachable cable headphones.

>>58757781
So gonna be ok for vidya and spotify or is shit?

>>58758622
oh wow I completely fucking forgot too about the 662 evo.
Just get new pads and you'll be fine

>>58758622
What's the story on this locking adapter for the cable?

I'm interested in these myself.

>>58758670
>What's the story on this locking adapter for the cable
I don't understand what you mean. If you're talking about the vmoda boom pro, it doesn't have any kind of locking connector.

>>58758584
How were the PortaPros? May buy them if their sound signature is different enough from my 9500S'.

Currently have the HE400i and the Schiit Stack. How much of an upgrade would the Jotunheim with the built in DAC be? I'm looking at STAX but I'd rather stick with the Jotunheim for more flexibility.

>>58758706
From Amazon
"Detachable cable and screw-on adapter for easy connectivity with all your gear."

Think I just sperged out when I read that and didn't realize it referred to a 1/4 adapter.

>>58758742
I think the adapter it's talking about is just a splitter that splits the headphone/mic cable into two seperate cables.

>Budget
$50-$150
>Location
USA
>Source
currently on board audio from my desktop. im also in the market for a dac so if you have any suggestions im all ears.
>Type of headphone
over ear.
>Open or closed
closed. I already have a pair of open headphones so I'd like to venture into closed
>Comfort level
as comfy as it can get in my price range. Spend many hours with headphones on.
>Sound signature
nuetral. i listen to a wide range of music and would like a jack of all trades. honestly anything is fine as long as it's not roodypoo levels of bass.
>Past headphones
grado sr80i, beats solo (HATED IT), and ipod in ear trash.

>>58758622
The k182's terminate in a mini xlr, so not compatible with a boom pro without an adapter.

>>58758724
Cheap build quality, not as portable as PX 100 (which I never tried FIY) when collapsed. Fun sound, bass is a bit loose and muddies up the higher frequencies, loses detail fast when music gets complex. But fun. I honestly preferred the KSC-75 which is about the same but with less bass and more detail and speed, especially in the treble. I had 2 of each pair and all 4 broke because of the weak cords.

>>58758824
Thank anon.

I just realized that the monoprice 8323's are closed and have a detachable cable. Does anyone know which pads work well with them? It seems like the hm5 pads work with them, but I don't know which would be the best.

>>58757064
>>58758098
Your "theory" is fucking retarded.

>>58759322
Well explain why.

>>58758896
they do

Which will be better qaulity? Sennheiser 598 SE or Beyerdynamics DT 880 32 OHM? Also, how many ohms of output can a supremefx III motherboard audio card do? Will I be better of with the beyerdynamics since it has lower OHMs and I'll be using it with my motherboard?

>>58751529
>tfw bought these and some cheap aune tube amp
I spent less than what people spend on amps

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So I'm thinking of picking up the Philips SHP9500 since they're on sale, but I've heard people complain they're not good at all for bass. Is this true?

I like to listen to chiptune music as well. Are they good for that? If not, any other suggestions?

>>58759783
bump

>>58759783
No idea wtf chiptune music is, but SHP9500's are great for the price.

They're not bass heavy if that's what you're looking for, but it's not like the bass sounds awful.

Would the Philips SHP9500 sound better than a 150 dollar gaymer headset? Im considering going to them from the SteelSeries Siberia V2s

>>58760070
Duh

What's the most neutral headphone under $200 US?

Open or closed.

>>58760749
the m40x is pretty neutral but it sucks for video games and a lot of people say you need to replace the pads

>>58759861
Thanks for the input, anon. I know the bass wouldn't sound bad, I've just read that it's anemic in these. But supposedly there is a mod that you can do to put on HM5 earpads to help with that.

>No idea wtf chiptune music is
It's just a fancy way of saying videogame music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDZ2W0GpP_E&index=2&list=PL21BAA7C6EDEB63A3

>>58759861
>>58760835
Chiptune is more like 8-bit console music.

>>58760835
The SHP's would definitely sound good with that kind of music with their crisp sound.

>>58760831
Why do they suck for vidya? No soundstage? Not surprising for closed cans.

I always thought they had a warm or V sound.

>>58760941
No soundstage. The angled drivers just made it worse IMO.

>>58760531
dick

>>58760941
you can also try the k240 or k612

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ok. when I first got my hd6xx/650's they sounded a little shrill compared to my x2's. but after a few days I got use to the mids and highs and they sound good/balanced.

I went back to the x2's. I now understand what sound stage feels like, it needs base. mids are not as clear as the 650's but it's not absent either. and after a few days I get use to them as well.

I am using the 650s again and now I can't fucking tell the difference any more. like I stop caring and they sound the same.

what am I suppose to do now?

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>>58760878
Really? I'd say any music that was still cartridge based could be considered chiptune. Games moving to cd-roms is when it all changed. Anything was possible.

>>58760920
>The SHP's would definitely sound good with that kind of music with their crisp sound.
Oh yeah? Then I guess what I've heard about the X2's being great for videogame music is true as well? I've considered them before, but that price is so steep.

Do you guys think the X2's will ever go below $200?

>>58761206

>What am I supposed to do now?

You enjoy the headphones, silly.

>>58757472

please respond :(

>>58750728
total garbage from a garbage company that has the shittiest customer service in the world.

>>58753505
those IEMs don't need an AMP. you fell for a meme placebo. you have more money than brains.

>>58761490
They are extremely sensitive in-ears with a highly varying impedance by frequency. Sure they don't need an amp(it's not written in capital letters) but a poor quality output can be a problem with them due to audible noise from the source and frequency response shift caused by uneven voltage division.

Placebo is not related into any of this, even if the headphones or the amp used was different. Learn what it means before using it.

>you have more money than brains
That I could agree with because SE846 are not attractive for me at all. Bulky and large eapieces, bassy sound which can be had for much less and imo better, poor bandwidth which can potentially be audible and high price. Yet another lackluster Shure in-ear.

>>58751246
I listen to this daily with dt 770 pro and internal soundcard so what you gonna do about it nerd

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>>58748166
The perfect headphones don exi-

>>58761880
If you want to torture someone, those are perfect for that, yes

>>58761206
Going back and forth between 650's and X2's made me realize how little soundstage really matters. The 650's are just so much better in every other way that muh soundstage can't compare to an overall better listening experience.

Is there a difference in sound qaulity between the Beyerdynamics DT 880 32 ohm and the 250 ohm?

>>58761974
yes

>>58762017
How much? How good of an amplifier do I need to use the 250 ohm with the on-board audio card of my computer?

Is this one good enough? https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-NS-08E-Integrated-Amplifier-Headphone/dp/B014FASL1A

>>58761974
No. There's a difference in voltage senstivity, 32 Ohm being more sensitive.

>>58762040
So the 32 ohm will sound find plugged into my computer's audio jack?

I found this: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones-page-2#li3XoP1jm24ERDL5.97

But I'm not really sure what it means.

>>58762028
>meme tubes
If you're going to get an amp I'd say don't half ass it and get something that'll last a lifetime and do anything you could ever want.
Like E10k, fulla 2, monoprice's dac amp, objective 2 (if you don't need an amp), magni 2 (if you don't need a dac)

>>58762069
> I felt the sound quality was degraded (likely by the poor damping factor) to the point that the price/performance ratio was poor. Essentially, you are not going to get DT 880-like performance from this pairing. I suggest that if you are looking for a portable headphone, the DT 880 32 ohm is a poor choice from a sound quality perspective

seems pretty clear to me bub

>>58762103
Because I don't want to spend 200 dollars on a Magni 2. I just want something that will let me use the 250 ohm with my on board audio.

>>58762103
>meme tubes
Tube guitar amps sure as hell sound better than solid state ones.

>>58762152
tube amps distort the sound, which is what you don't want
if you wanted more bass you should have bought headphones with more bass

>>58762143
magni 2 is around 100$
I also gave you 4 other options
if you don't want to buy an amp just get something else like a hi2050 clone

>>58762188
>tube amps distort the sound, which is what you don't want
Only if you turn on distortion. Guitar tube amps have a clean channel.

>>58762205
well I don't know much about guitar amps, but there's no clean channel on desktop tube amps, since the entire point of them is to distort the audio

>>58762188
>magni 2 is around 100$

>I also gave you 4 other options
All of which has a worse frequency response than the one I already posted and significantly worse than the headphones I'm looking to buy.

>>58762213
No it isn't. There is only distortion if distortion is added. The clean channel is just the tube amp without the added distortion.

>>58762220
wait are you mentally challenged
they're not headphones

just buy whatever dude
you're hopeless

>>58762251
Are you a retard? I never once said they are headphones. Amps have a frequency response range as well. If your amp doesn't suppose as high of a frequency response range then your headphones are limited by the amp.

God damn you are fucking useless.

>>58762260
>and significantly worse than the headphones I'm looking to buy.

frequency response range isn't what you should look after unless you have maybe two completely identical products otherwise

go hang yourself

>>58762272
youre confusing frequency response and frequency range

stop posting

>>58762272
You're a dumb fuck. I'm not buying an amp that doesn't even handle the frequency response range of what I'm looking to hook up to it.

>>58762280
are you trolling?

>>58762281
ok then buy some garbage chink shit, I don't care dude it's your money
this place is just to get advice, if you won't take the advice it's on you

>>58762293
>hook your 5hz-35khz headphones up to a 20hz-20khz amp
>it totally doesn't matter dude
Neck yourself.

>>58762308
it does matter very very very slightly
but it shouldn't be what you decide your purchase on
because there's 91 billion factors that are more important

do a sound test right now and I bet you can't hear like 95% of the range outside 20-20k

>>58762337
>buy good headphones with a good range
>buy an amp that can't even support that range
Nah.

>>58762345
the range doesn't matter you fucking inbred
you get dt880s for the sound profile not for the range

just leave and never come back

>>58762364
>the range doesn't matter
You have no idea what are you talking about. Go suck start a shotgun.

>>58762387
leave and never come back

>>58762394
>the range of sound your headphones can reproduce doesn't even matter man
>just like trust me dude

>>58762401
leave and never come back

>>58762407
>dude if you want to actually like get the full range your headphones are capable then like you should just get out man

>>58762426
leave and never come back

>>58762431
>dude you like can't even head sounds above this amp even though the human ear can totally pick them up man.

>>58762260
> Amps have a frequency response range as well
It doesn't matter even a little because you can't hear >20khz

>>58762499
Oh bull shit. I played in an orchestra for 5 years and the high range is especially important for that. That number has been getting thrown around for a long time yet you can still tell the difference between audio equipment that can go higher than that and ones that can't.

>>58762308
You can't hear under 20Hz or above 20kHz you fucking spud.

>>58762519
well that's most likely because an apples to apples test is impossible to check for the audio range

there's no two identical products with different audio ranges, and the difference you hear comes from the difference of other aspects that matter more than the range

>>58762521
Yes you can. That number has been thrown around for a long time yet you can still tell the diference between audio equipment that can hit higher than that and lower than that.

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What is known so far about the new Sennheiser HD5.. series?
How do they compare to the HD 558 and HD 598.
What is know about the two new entries?

On a side note, I was banned a few days ago after asking an anons skin color after him stating DT770's are way to bassy. Can some tell me what that is about?

>>58762536
Any so why would I want my amp to limit my headphones when I can get amps that won't?

>>58762546
It's not limiting if you aren't losing anything

>>58762557
You are.

>>58762542
the few reviews I've seen in here say they're great. Though I'd stick with the 559 & 599. Since nobody knows what the base for the 578 is and I haven't seen reviews of that

>On a side note, I was banned a few days ago after asking an anons skin color after him stating DT770's are way to bassy. Can some tell me what that is about?
was probably a mod that was asking info and got upset.

>>58762546
either you're so mentally challenged that it's useless to try and have a conversation with you or you're trolling, in both cases nothing of what I say will matter

>>58762540
Go do a hearing test, I assure you that you will not hear anything above 18k assuming you're older than 20.
Headphones with a bigger range sound better probably just because they are better headphones.

>>58762569
>either you're so mentally challenged that it's useless to try and have a conversation with you or you're trolling, in both cases nothing of what I say will matter
The extra head room prevents distortion in your music you dumb fuck. Learn how this shit works before you spout your dumb mouth off. The closer you get to the limit of your amp and headphones the more you loose in sound quality.

>>58762571
I would have noticed if I couldn't. I've played string instruments since I was a child. Classical music uses the higher frequency ranges very heavily.

>>58762587
You would have noticed not hearing 19K?
plz

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>>58762587
>Classical music uses the higher frequency ranges very heavily.
yes they do
good thing every single headphone ever made has those higher frequency ranges and nothing is cut off

>>58762596
Yeah, that's right I would've have noticed not being able to hear the frequencies the instruments I play hit. You learn how to recognize sounds and the details of the one hell of a lot better when you play an instrument.

>>58762604
>nothing is cut off
If you think that then your ears are shit.

>>58762617
not as shit as your brain

>>58762622
The only one with a shit brain here is you. It's even worse than your ears.

>>58762609
implying a fucking instrument produces 19k

Man I bought some over-ear headphones and now since they're resting on my neck I can now vividly hear the blood moving around in my body all the time and noise whenever I use any muscles in my neck and head.

I've tried both the velour and pleather pads and it happens with both. I really wish I could find a way to stop this because I mostly listen to pretty sparse music. I guess it would be better with open headphones but I really appreciate the isolation I get from closed.

>>58762632
>I have no idea what I'm talking about or about alternative tunings
Learn something about music before you post you dumb fuck.

You want a amp and headphones that go past 20-20khz because the closer you get to the frequency range limits of them the more sound quality you loose.
You maintain better sound quality by having head room.

>>58762653
like what tuning, fucking E9 standard?

DT 990 PROS or DT 770 PROS for gaming and music lads? will be using a fiio e10k amp for them, mainly listening to lots of varieties of music.

>>58762672
just stop replying to him dude

>>58762636
>now since they're resting on my neck I can now vividly hear the blood moving around in my body all the time and noise whenever I use any muscles in my neck and head.
> I guess it would be better with open headphones but I really appreciate the isolation I get from closed.

wait so is this when they're hanging from your neck, or when you have them on
because having it rest on your neck when you have them on is pretty fucking weird

>>58762672
Clearly this isn't getting through your thick skull into your tiny brain. So I'm just going to keep copy and pasting it until it gets though.

>You want a amp and headphones that go past 20-20khz because the closer you get to the frequency range limits of them the more sound quality you loose.
You maintain better sound quality by having head room.

Also:
>doubting the ability to hit what ever frequency you want with electronic instruments.

>>58762685
The 990's are v shaped with a lot of treble and the 770's are v shaped with a bit less treble and more bass. The 990's would be better since they're open if you can stand the treble

>>58762685
dt770 doesn't need an amp and is closed
dt990 does need an amp and is open
dt880 is like dt990 but is less strong and better overall

if you got the dough, I'd say dt880

>>58762698
I Mainly want the 990s because they're open, just asking for advice from people who know a lot more than me. how much sound will they let in? currently using RIG 500 headset and wearing them down not block any outside noise whatsoever

>>58762688
The padding goes around my ears, so the bottom part of the padding is where the neck meets the skull.

>>58762704
I have the money but I'm trying to save for when i'm finished with school, i'm just done with gamer headsets now

>>58762727
May I suggest a HD 558 / HD 598, they have a wide soundstage, so great for gaming, great for music too.

>>58762750
Excellent suggestion anon, these and the 990s/770s are what i've been thinking over for ages now. I just can't decide and don't know which ones to pull the trigger on.

>>58762708
>wearing them don't not block any outside noise whatsoever
That sounds about right. I can't speak exactly for the 990's, but most open headphones are like that.

I have both the hd558 and dt 770,
For comfort go with dh558.
For gaming (cs in my case) hd558.
For music I'd chose DT770, I am somewhat of a bass-head tho. HD558 can get very close if EQ'd.
For music clarity id go with HD558.
Id say HD558 are more precise but DT770 are more fun.

>>58762776
>>>>58762828

>>58762069
Don't trust Tyll on discussions about impedance and damping. He doesn't understand it.

And to answer the earlier question, yes it will unless the computer jack is in some other way malfunctioning.

>>58762704
>dt770 doesn't need an amp and is closed
Depends on what impedance version you get.

>dt990 does need an amp and is open
Again, depends on what impedance version you get.

250Ω 770's, 880's, and 990's can all be ran of my phone without any external amplification.
All depends on which impedance version you get, and how powerful your built in amp is.

>dt880 is like dt990 but is less strong and better overall
This makes no sense. A headphone cannot be 'less strong'.

>>58762569
Are the hd569's comparable to the hd 598 Cs's?

>>58762103
>seems pretty clear to me bub
No it doesn't. Tyll's subjective impressions contradict with what actually goes on and the bigger problem is how he manages to tie this into damping factor and square waves, neither of which he seems to understand.

>>58762152
>>58762205
Entirely different design and purpose. You can't compare them.

>>58762213
>>58762235
Every amplifier distorts. A hi-fi amplifier does not do it audibly. This criteria can be satisfied with tubes, solid state or whatever hybrid monstrosity you come up with. Topology is irrelevant, performance is not.

>>58762260
Magni is flat in the audio band just like any competently designed audio amplifier is. Extension below 20 Hz has little to no importance but most amplifiers(aside from ones with an output transformer and some tube designs) manage it fine into infrasonic range. Extension above 20 KHz is meaningless. It's outside of our hearing capabilities.

>>58762308
Range is meaningless without a target and tolerance and even with those you are better off looking at an FR graph. No headphone does 5 Hz to 35 KHz with an acceptable tolerance and even if it did, the bandwidth outside of audio spectrum is pointless. You can't hear it, you don't need it.

>>58762519
>I played in an orchestra for 5 years and the high range is especially important for that
Your "orchestra background" sure didn't educate you on basic human hearing mechanisms.

>>58762632
Harmonic overtones can go that high. But this range, even if it falls into the audible spectrum of a child with nominal hearing, is meaningless because of ears' lowering sensitivity and upwards frequency masking.

I'd like something cheap (under $30), non-autismal or edgy-looking, and using the standard 3.5mm jack. Anime grills optional.

>>58763212
anything superlux

>>58763230
Thanks

>>58763230
other than 681 evo*

>>58763003
>the DT 880 32 ohm is a poor choice from a sound quality perspective

aka
>the DT880 32 ohm sounds like shit
seems pretty fucking clear to me
you don't need to understand square waves to know what sounds bad

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>>58762103
>>If you're going to get an amp I'd say don't half ass it and get something that'll last a lifetime and do anything you could ever want.

cognitive dissonance. modern audioshit obeys planned obsolescence just like every other cottage industry. you wouldn't even know if your know what kind of wires you need for you overpriced schit trash in 5 years.

>>58763505
100$ for an amp isn't really overpriced, especially if you don't need a dac

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>>58763516
schitt gear is literally not worth the material it's made from.

chinkshit has schitt beat in almost all price brackets.

>Budget $60-100

>US

>Plugging into USB DAC+Amp, will be used from phone and desktop

>Closed

>Would prefer comfort but don't mind either way

What are some good suggestions?

>>58763561
>trusting chinkshit

>>58763628
what headphones have you used before and what did you like/dislike about them

if nothing in particular comes to mind, what type of music do you mainly listen to and will it mainly be used for music, mastering or games/movies?

>>58762876
>250Ω 770's, 880's, and 990's can all be ran of my phone without any external amplification
would I need an amp with dt770 250Ω for my PC tho?

>>58748166
Could someone help me with this?

>>>/wsr/260450

>>58751572
just get earbuds dude lol

>>58753120
Just to kys

Why was the HD25 1-II discontinued?
Is the HD26 a good replacement?

>>58752417
Sony still makes them. I like mine.

>>58763488
>the DT 880 32 ohm is a poor choice from a sound quality perspective
>the DT880 32 ohm sounds like shit
Why?
>seems pretty fucking clear to me
Just because he said so?

Actually let's just ignore the subjective part of "a poor choice from a sound quality perspective" based on his sighted listening tests and misunderstanding of the technology and focus on just whether it sounds different at all or not and more importantly why does it, if so.

Measurements show nearly no difference and that would be expected as the impedance versions only differ in voice coil construction. The voice coils are scaled between one another(wire length, wire turns, wire gauge) so that the only thing altered is the amount electrical resistance and this lowers the voltage senstivity. Frequency response is not altered, diaphragm is the same, baffle and external construction is the same.

What Tyll tells us about damping doesn't make sense and definitely isn't the cause for a different sound signature here. Even in the case low damping would alter the DT880's response, the alteration is entirely predictable by the impedance plot Tyll himself provides. Obviously with his low Zout amplifier gear you see now such alteration in the measurements.

His pair of DT880 32 ohms has a little channel imbalance unlike the 250 and 600 ohm versions. This shows in FR and obviously in the square waves and and impulse response too because those are derived from one another/linked. Tyll doesn't seem to realize this which is odd to say the least. Then he makes the leap to think this difference has something to do with driver "control" based on damping. There's actually a very good comment correcting him on the matter in the comments of that article.

>you don't need to understand square waves to know what sounds bad
I agree. You don't need to understand them ever actually. Maybe for DA-converter and amplifier measurements these could have some merit at peeping into filter construction.

SACD rip collection https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=895250

Highest quality audio you'll ever hear

>>58764313
you're missing the point
the guy said he found a review but didn't understand it
I took the part that mattered to this discussion and said the point in the review was pretty clear

whether you want to take his opinion or not or if it's well founded is besides the point

>>58764415
My audio is hardly limited by the source file format or encoding. I don't like to waste space with that shit.

>>58761958
This. My brother had the x2 and we used to compare songs a lot with my hd600's. The x2's are 'good' but they sound like muddy trash compared to the hd600's, and I think the 600's are even better than the 650's. Build wuality of the x2's is god mode though.

>>58764233
>Why was the HD25 1-II discontinued
From last year's press release.

>Sennheiser has steamlined its classic HD 25 pro headphones portfolio to make product selection easier. “With seven variants to choose from, customers often asked ‘But which one is the HD 25?
>there will be one classic HD 25 with two sister models – the HD 25 LIGHT, with has slightly different features and accessories, and the HD 25 PLUS, which adds additional accessories to further enhance the classic. The new versions can be easily recognised by the compact Sennheiser logo on the earpieces, with the version and impedance information now provided on the headband.

It's just the HD 25 now.

Does anyone here have the Brainwavz HM5? Do they sit snugly on the head? Thinking about picking them up to use for running/cycling but I hate IEMs.

>>58765342
Or is there anything cheaper I can pick up that are closed over ear that are suited for working out and don't sound like complete doodoo? Preferably around $50-75

>>58765394
if you like neutral sound, which I doubt, m40x is a good idea

If you like bassy, this might be a decent option
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Mdr-xb950-Extra-Headphone-Black/dp/B00NG57GWQ

I feel like HM5 won't clamp enough for working out

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alright /hpg/ what would be a good usb dac for about 100€ but im willing to pay max 150€ for one

>>58765903
Get the e10k, it's usb powered and powers all the obvious top headphones like 702's, 600's, x2's etc etc. It's an amp and dac, you don't need anything more.

>>58765831
I do want neutral, my main headphones are the AKG K712 but I don't see the need to put down so much money on something I'm only going to be using occasionally and won't be treating with silk gloves. Right now I'm using some on ear Bluetooth headphones but they're pretty flimsy and I can feel the drivers moving around if I use them while running.

The M40X looks like a good choice but they cost about the same as the Brainwavz HM5 on Amazon UK, but they're worth going for simply because of the detachable cable.

>>58765982
>I do want neutral, my main headphones are the AKG K712
kek

>>58765903
fulla 2
e10k
monoprice's

e12 mont blanc if it's for portable

>>58765903
>>58765956
Other great alternatives are the SMSL M3 and Schiit Fulla 2. The Fulla 2 is great in particular because the volume knob can control both the headphone out and the line out if you want to connect powered speakers. I kinda reget buying the e10k instead because now I've been thinking about buying a pair a of JBL 305s but I don't know how am I going to control the volume

>>58766007
Nice meme

>>58766007
>>58766132
What's the meme here? The k712 are by no means neutral. Multiple prenounced treble peaks and 2khz peak with a large dip around 3KHz

>>58766132
Not him but the k712's arent exactly neutral. The treble is slightly harsh and the bass is too sloppy. That said I still think they're and amazing headphone overall.

>>58766270
>That said I still think they're and amazing headphone overall.
If you get rid of the peaks, they sure are

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First time posting in a headphones thread so please bear with me... i got a pair of audio technica ath-m50x headphones for xmas... i like them but are they /g/ approved? i think theyre excellent headphones, but are there better options out there? like these came with three cords (put them on my list because i wanted to have a pair of headphones i could use with my digital piano so i didnt disturb my family when i play late at night)
tl;dr is the audio technica ath-m50x a good pair of headphones, and are there better ones out there for a similar cost?
pic related, the headphones

>>58766022
I know nothing of the fulla 2. How much is it compared to the e10k in dollars or pounds? I have my speakrs connected to a receiver so I don't share your problem but I can see why you'd want the fulla 2 if it works just as well as the e10k. One thing though, the e10k has a bass boost switch which is good for non nigger headphones when you want to listen to some rap etc, and if you don't use an EQ obviously.

>>58766346
no

>>58766346
it's great, don't worry.

Are the ath m40x with brainwavz hm5 pads as comfy as Sennheiser 558? I have the 558s and I'm looking for a new pair of closed headphones because I'm tired of open, but comfort is a big issue for me. The 558 is only pair of headphones I've tried that I can wear literally all day and feel no pain or fatigue. Anyone have any idea on the comfy rating of the m40x with hm5 pads compared to the 558?

>>58766353
>How much is it compared to the e10k in dollars or pounds?
They cost around the same, more or less five to ten dollars I think

> the e10k has a bass boost switch
I find it stupid, to be quite honest. It not only boosts the bass by too much (good for very anemic headphones maybe) it also boosts the lower mids. It's a very aggressive EQ. Using a paraemtric EQ like EQAPO to raise the bass - and bass only - is a far better solution

>>58766365
>>58766380
alright! thanks guys!

>>58766346
If you like them, who cares what people think.

But they are generally hated by this board.

>>58766334
I did that with mine and they were amazing, but the bass was too sloppy. I bought a pair of 600's from amazon knowing I could send them back hassle free if I didn't want them, within hours I had my 712's listed on ebay for sale. The k712's are probably my third favorite headphone ever behind the 650 but that bass, it was too sloppy for me.

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A headphone amp will provide more volume right? I think my ears are fucked because every pair I try is too quiet at max volume.

Also, pic related is max comfy if that's your thing.

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>Buying reference headphones when you're not a musician who records music

Am I being memed on?

>>58766427
>I find it stupid, to be quite honest. It not only boosts the bass by too much (good for very anemic headphones maybe) it also boosts the lower mids. It's a very aggressive EQ. Using a paraemtric EQ like EQAPO to raise the bass - and bass only - is a far better solution

Fair enough. I've never been a fan of using the bass switch because it feels like it lowers the quality overall as you said. Since I got my hd600's I deleted my apo EQ because to me they're perfect...besides the bass, but I can't be bothered to faff around with it just for that. I don't need extra bass most of the time and when I do i'm usually drinking and the switch is good enough I guess, that said, you just made me want to re-install it to tweak the bass you piece of shit. Thanks for that.

>>58766346
Great headphones, /g/ god tier up until a year ago. for some reason (people claim its price) they are now considered shit. Don't worry about it and enjoy a great xmas gift.

O2 or Magni? And if I get an O2 I can just drop in an ODAC with a bit of easy soldering, right?

PSA
Massdrop is having a SE215 ( https://www.massdrop.com/buy/shure-se215-earphones?1=1&utm_placement=1&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open ) & E10k ( https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fiio-e10k-usb-dac-and-headphone-amplifier?1=1&utm_placement=2&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open ) drop right now

>>58766620
some people prefer bassy
some prefer bright
some prefer v shaped
some prefer neutral

>>58766764
Buy an e10k or a fulla 2 like me and that other guy were just talking about. You don't need the extra power of either of those compared to an e10k, unless you have some monster headphones.

>>58766620
reference headphones generally means more accurate. Crack on with your disgusting extra bass monsters. You'll be fine.

>>58766832
I was considering the Fulla also, don't like the E10K because I want a 1/4 inch input. Decided I'd prefer a separate amp over a combo for extra headroom in case I want something like 600 ohm Beyers or the like in the future, need one for HD650's right now.

>>58766764
if you not afraid to do some work, build it yourself objective 2 is by far the best way to go

>>58766640
How about a low shelf filter at 80Hz by about 4dB?

>>58766916
Ok fair enough

>>58766971
I'm going to leave it for now. I'm not autistic at all but when it comes to that equalizer I can't help but try to improve it, and like I said the sound signature of the 600's is perfect to me and what makes it so popular. If only the bass was a tiny bit stronger without it effecting the overall signature they would be the best headphones ever made imo.

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So are complys with earwax guards a meme?
They aren't much more expensive compared to the regular tips without the waxguard, and it seems a nice thing to have.

>>58761359

>>58767156
no
if you have a lot of wax problems get them so you don't have to worry

>>58763628
Hyperx cloud

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>ordered DT770 Pro (80 Ohm) and ATH M50x to try them out and send the one who I like less back
>they're both great


halp

>>58767506
770 is more comfortable, ez choice

>>58767506
iIf you want less autistico (only applies when taking them outside) go for m50x
If you want more comfort go for DT770

>>58767648
Shut the fuck up

>>58767648
Actually they somewhat (slightly) apply greater pressure on my head than the M50s.
The lows are better and it seems that they're sturdier and better built.

The M50x has detachable cables which makes it great multipurpose.
The sound seems to be super neutral (which can be a great thing).

i need some in earheadphones
is it worht it buy Dunu Trident DN12 for 25euro

>>58767694
>m50x
>Neutral
Kek

>>58767694
>The sound seems to be super neutral
They're as far from neutral as you can get, but the majority of people prefer that so it's not necessarily a bad thing.

>>58767765
How much for HPhs with neutral sound?

>>58767841
M40x for closed back, SHP9500 for open.

>>58767903
558/600 for open*
9500 are bright

got k550 mk2 today, upgrading from superlux hd668b.
already loving them.

>>58768003
I haven't used 558's but I've seen them described as warm and I'm certain there's something close to neutral without having to shell out $200-300 on 600's.

>>58766842
Extra bass monsters? I have the K712s because I actually record music. Reference headphones are meant to expose the flaws in your mix, it's dumb to get them if you don't record music instead of just regular netural headphones

I got HD598's looking to get a dac or whatever. Amazon says people buy that fiio one with it.
This is the cheapest one one ncix and about as much as i'm willing to spend.
http://www.ncix.com/detail/mayflower-cmoy-portable-headphone-amplifier-38-114770.htm

>>58768414
>reference
>k712

>HE TRIES IT AGAIN

>>58768414
>Reference headphones are meant to expose the flaws in your mix
I'm guessing the HD650 aren't, correct?

To me reference headphones for mixing usually means very spiky treble or just very bright headphone in general

holy shit i haven't listen to my music for 2 or 3 weeks, it's good to be back

also toslink cable is on it's way!

>>58768482
s>>58766800
>e10k

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>>58766800
>>58768694
>waiting an entire month just to save $7 on an E10K
Why the fuck would anyone do this

>>58768775
I'll have you know it's 11$

>>58768564
Another high quality meme, friend

>>58768862
the only meme here is thinking k712 is reference/neutral

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>>58768840
Shipping

>>58765264
But the HD classic is like $100 less than the 1-ii ? And that seems to now go for $100 more than original

>>58768884
well you'd most likely have to pay for shipping on others depending where you order, unless you have like amazon prime

anyone tried Superlux HD381? are they worth 13$?

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I am thinking about getting Valhalla 2 for my HD600, tried SS and didn't like. How good is Valhalla 2, any owners here?

Is grado's e series appreciably different from the i? Got a five year old pair of 325is still going strong (after a recable), so I'm just wondering.

>>58768913
>memetubes

>>58768872
Let me guess, you think only the HD600 are reference headphones?

>>58768979
not only, but yes they are some of the best in their price range
400i also really good

Can I use my audio interface, a Scarlett Solo as a makeshift headphone amp or do I need to get a proper one?

>>58769043
Interfaces generally don't have much output but they can be used as dacs.

>>58769066
Doubt it'll have less output than my laptop

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I'm getting a new pair of IEM's, budget $30-80.

I mostly listen to game/movie soundtracks. Are pic related a good choice?

>DT770
>HD600/650
>X2
>SHP9500
>M40x
Every fucking thread, retards mimicking whatever they heard other people say.

>>58769461
You're more than welcome to correct people and give your input instead of whining.

>>58765903
I've heard good things about the hifimediy dacs

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got these today and they're fucking good no matter the price. Balance perfect, full range, warm, nothing sticking out.

>>58769043
I tried the Scarlett 2i2 to power my dt 770 250 Ohm cans and it can not get really loud. I would compare the loudness to my phone

>>58769461
Or maybe they're just popular headphones that a lot of anons own and so they recommend them.

>>58769481
>>58769867
Or maybe people in this general can't form their own opinions just like /mkg/

Any cheap recommendations to see if I like Open Backs?

>>58770659
shp9500

>>58770320
Most other opinions are garbage though (or very, very, very expensive)

>>58770320
it doesn't matter if it's the best
it matters if it's close to the best
those are all close to the best, and as such they'll be a huge step above whatever people are using

I see /hpg/ more as a gateway to 50000$ speaker cables rather than a headphone discussion thread

>>58770673
Like antique pottery

>>58770659
HD518

>>58759783
Usually the more open the headphones are, you aren't going to be finding bass. Exception being the X1 or X2 because engineering and shit.

You can mod them with brainwavez to squeeze some more bass into them or another mod that attaches to the grill.