/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>tfw no X320

Is the W700ds actually practical or just cool

>>58748247
It's a 17" so you're not going to want to be moving it around much, which means it's not much of a stretch to say you'd be able to just use an external monitor with it in most situations which is going to be more practical.

That said if you don't really need much secondary screen space it'd be pretty sweet just as a convenient spot to hold windows for stuff like IRC or media players. If you really wanted something like it though you'd probably be better off just buying small phone/tablet screen + controller that can be powered off USB, then making a mount to fit onto the corner of a laptop. That'd give you a much better screen and compatibility with anything so you don't have to deal with an outdated and bulky laptop.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2880x1620-screen-to-apparently-fit-w530etc/1196030_32693238169.html

I stumbled upon this listing for a panel that seems to match the one on the W540 and later, and they make mention the W530 - has anyone actually tried putting a panel like this in a W530? I can't find anything on google so I assume either the listing is wrong, or just chinks having experimented more with modding.

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>>58747986
I just came to this thread to ask about it.
surely somebody here has one of the 51nb mods, right?
x62, x320/30, t70?
they re still out of stock or is there a way to get them?

is there a thinkpad that's actually good looking? these machines look like they are from the 1980s

>>58749247
>muh a e s t h e t i c s
go buy a macbook fag

>>58749247
This is what we call "good looking" dude. What's your problem ?

Hey guys
I have an T60p whose screen backlight flickers and turns off after a while. What can i do?

Headphone sound quality on my x230 is terrible, it's all distorted. What do.

>>58749318
Replace the screen.

>>58749357

Is there another cheaper method?
Because if not, i just saw a T420 for like 100 bucks.

>>58749383
Yes, opening it up and replacing backlight manually.

>>58749318
I'd check that power is reliably making it to the backlight before assuming that's what's broken, but ultimately >>58749395 is probably what it'll come down to. Might be a good chance to upgrade to an LED backlight as well.

If you're not too attached to your T60p then the T420 is going to be a solid upgrade anyway.

>>58749270
why are you mad?

Why so many people fall for the autistic cube meme? It's confirmed as shit for countless times and you anons still fall for it.

why are T440s so cheap in Seppoland? They're basically nonexsistant here in straya

>>58749772
Prices are determined by quantity available. I guess American companies can just afford to replace equipment more often so the market is starting to get lots of second hand ones sooner.

Since T430/s are cheap in Australia now, maybe in a year or so the 40's will start becoming affordable, though they don't really offer many advantages over the 30's anyway due to the ultralow power CPU meme.

>>58749846
goddamn rich cunts
leaning more towards an X220 right now anyway

>>58749473

Um... I kind of want to fix this T60p, its my first ThinkPad and all and i just dont want to throw it away. Is there any safe place where i can buy the backlights? I will replace them myself.

I'm thinking about getting a X220 for my CS course. Is it alright?

>>58750053
The battery will probably be shit unless you dont mind buying a new one or carrying a charger

>>58750053
is alright

>>58750053
Same situation, but also a second question. Is $189 a good price for a x220 with a 2350m?

>>58750074
I'll make sure the battery is alright before buying.
What about the X230? Besides programming, I'll probably watch some chinese cartoons when doing nothing.

>>58750092
its basically the same thing without the meme keyboard

>>58750092
You'll be fine unless you use to have 50 tabs open on your browser like programmers do.

>>58750092
If it's second hand then you should assume that the battery is at risk of being shit, there's not much you can do about it really.

X230 will be an advantage over the X220 in that you might get some advantages in regards to the processor which would make a decent difference if you're regularly compiling shit. Of course with an X series the actual CPU you get isn't all that flexible so a good X220 will still have an advantage there. The X230 also has a chicklet keyboard. Whether or not the classic keyboard is largely personal preference though.

If you want to use it to watch shit then the X series isn't really known for screen quality. At the very least keep an eye out for one with an IPS screen.

>>58750278
I actually have more than 80 tabs open right now in my desktop. It's mostly weebshit, so I'll probably not do the same on the laptop.

>>58750279
A complete answer, thanks. I guess for me the only relevant difference is the keyboard. I had an old T60 some years ago and I really liked the meme keyboard.

I guess I'll go with the X220 if I find one with a decent/new battery. Otherwise, I'll just get the X230.

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>>58749022

Yeah posted mine here yesterday. Basically they're having a lot of trouble getting more xps13 panels. Took them about 5 months to get mine. I don't expect them to do another run, they're already having a lot of trouble fulfilling they're original 20 orders.

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>>58747971
I have an year old (since its mine, its 2012 production) x220 that was almost brand new as in cosmetics and no signs of any abuse. It's great machine and everything, best keyboard too.

For a solid 6-7 months it ran really light debian dist with idle temps of 32-38 C and highest temp was 72 or so.

But now it runs idle for 39-48 at times gets to 36 max, and at times when watching 1080p youtube stuff it gets up to 75 even 80 for a second or two...

>Is it the thermal paste ?
>Is it just dust in the fan ?
>Is it hard to clean the fan and/or repaste it ?
>Any videos/instructions how to do it ?
>Anyone have done it before ?

Should I bother ? I am sure it won't die for another six months at least, and by that time I am planning in getting x230 with backlid keyboard, or its not better than x220 ?

>>58750876
should have asked the archives, I see the mistake.
how did you contact them? through 51nb or the reddit thread?

>I don't expect them to do another run
dont crush my hopes

>>58750944
open it and check the fan. it is relatively easy to open.
repasting isnt that hard but you should consult some tutorial videos beforehands. they are all over youtube.

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Do I really need JIS drivers to replace my screen

Also should I try to get just the screen or the housing too

>>58747971
I wince every time I see it. The design is sooo ugly. But each to their own.

>>58750959

Made a reddit account pretty much exclusively to get it, although it looks like you can contact them through facebook. Pretty much contacted the OP in this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/5rebh9/important_info_about_contacting_lcdfans_51nbcom/

Anyone bought from refurb.io? I heard they did shady shit like claiming water damage and not honoring their 1 year warranty. If I pay with paypal I should be safe?

Any anons with an X250? My X201 is functionally useless now, and the motherboard replacement was an improper part listing (X201T, not X201S). What are some of the common pitfalls with an X250?

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Did a fresh install on my T420s, I've also bought a new genuine for it and can't seem to get over 3 hours on a full charge. Any tips? I do remember it being over 5 hours when I originally got it 5 years ago on the regular battery. This one is a 6 cell 81+

>>58751552
Boot into a Linux LiveCD. I'll give instructions for Ubuntu/Debian.
>terminal
>sudo apt install acpi
>acpi -i
This will give you both the current % and the wear that the battery has on it in % of the total rated charge.
Otherwise, there's nothing you can really do to increase battery life on Windows.

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>>58751592

>>58752072
>design capacity: 42
>full charge capacity: 39.93
>only a ~2 Wh difference
something's fucky
wait, have you let Windows Update install all updates/disabled it? On fresh installs it chews CPU and I/O like crazy for days on end if you set it to "automatic updates."

Could also be the DGPU (Nvidia), those chew battery like crazy; if you can force it to use the iGPU instead of the Nvidia one, do that and disable the DGPU as best you can, it'll lower your power consumption by a lot.

>>58747971
Just bought a T430 - what am I in for?

Should I absolutely get a T420 with an i5 2520M or will one with a i5 2450M suffice? The only real difference appears to be .1 GHz more Turbo Boost on the former model.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/52229,53452

>>58752434
Don't feed it after midnight

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Ordered the basic motherboard. Received the one with Nvidia. What now?

>>58752139
yeah could be the GPU it's at 40% right now I'll turn it off once I reach full charge

>>58752449
Virtualization features are enabled on the i5 2520 and disabled on the 2450. I would recommend going for the 2520, even if you don't do VM stuff, just in case you want to try it in the future.

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>>58749846
i'm expecting my t430s tomorrow, compared the specs to my wife's i5 4200u - it was like 6.9 vs 7 in every chart.

so, what kind of battery life should i expect ? Someone here has to have one as a daily driver :)

>>58752655
Thanks for your response. I've got a decent desktop to do anything VM related on, so I don't think the absence of virtualisation features on a five years old laptop matters all that much.

>>58752685

>battery life

Uh you did buy an ultrabay battery right anon?

>>58752749
not yet, still haven't received it.

is it normal for the ac adapter(levono 90w 20v) to become hot? By hot I mean it could anytime soon burn through my desk.

>>58753242
it goes pretty hot sometimes

>>58752749
i think i got your point, should I sell it and buy a t430 instead ? damn, i wanted something more mobile...

Okay, I've got a mid-2011 memebook ayyr, and am wanting a new laptop. I'm currently contemplating something similar to the following specs;
>quad core i5/i7 or something
>maybe 2.4GHz+
>6-16GB ram
>between 900p and 1440p
>between 13-15 inches
>dGPU
Plan on doing some video editing/rendering and a tad bit of photoshop work, as well as watching my korean cat massaging tutorials while nodding off to sleep.

>>58753908
Nah ull be fine after you get the ultrabay I think. Just try it out and if it works for you keep it, if you want a little bit more grab like an x230

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>>58754012
but i'm curious - what should I expect by default without the ultrabay ?

btw those fuckers are expensive as fuck, 50% of the laptop for such small device

>>58754006
W520/W530

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>4GB ram
>120gb ssd
>very good condition
>180 euro
>inb4 resolution
I'm pretty satisfied with it. Did I do good?

>>58754101

I'm not entierly sure as i've never owned and s series thinkpad. Think I read t430s with an ultrabay is about or a little under a regular t430

>>58754199

Seems expensive, but i've heard Thinkpads are more expensive in Europe rather than the US. Consider replacing the display and adding another ram stick.

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>>58747971
Is there the "EPP" discount for Dell/HP too?

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>>58754258
if it's anywhere near pic related i would be happy, anything more than my t410 would be awesome :)

>>58754293
Yeah, I was surprised to find out that ThinkPads are a bit more expensive here compared to US.
I'll surely buy a stick but I'm not sure about the display. If it bothers me enough, i'll change it...

>>58754293
yea they are, here in east 3rd wolrd country called Slovakia, I got mine for 240€ without taxes
X230
i7 3520M
8GB
TN display
500GB 7,2HDD
9cell battery with little as 3% wear
win 10 home licence

just got SSD and installed Mint

>>58754293
True. Generally speaking, if you buy a used ThinkPad in Europe, it'll cost you maybe $40 more than in the US.

>>58754012
the ultrabay battery is expensive and quite rare

>>58754199
If it's an X series, great.
If it's a T series, you fucked up with the resolution

>>58750876
Jesus fuck that is gorgeous.

Anyone have experience buying from a corporate Microsoft Certified Refurbisher? I have a discount at BlairTG through my work, and I'm eyeing a T510 they have for $200. I'm really just worried about getting one with a BIOS lock, I'm not sure if they would check for me.

Still got a week for my Thinkpad to come in, pretty much all the way on the other side of the country. From New Hampshire to San Diego. Hopefully no delays from a blizzard or two.

Never owned a laptop. I hope the T420 isn't just a meme and is pretty decent.

>>58755105
>T510 they have for $200
I hope you're getting a substantial discount, you can get a well-specced T420 at that price. The differences between a T510 and anything newer are going to be well worth it.

is a x300 in good condition with 1 dead pixel worth picking up for 50$?

>>58755506
The better screen on the T510 is well worth the performance difference between it and a T420. A T520 would be a straight upgrade, but they're usually more expensive.

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Opinions on a thinkpad 13 for a lightweight option with great batterylife?

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/13-series/13-windows/

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There was an anon here who was getting an x220 tablet and was going to put linux on it, they told me they would report back how well the driver support on linux was compared to the lenovo drivers for windows.

Are you lurking anon, did you find out? I'd like to know before I go out and buy my own.

Pic unrelated, just to catch attention.

>>58755526
You can buy a T520 and a separate FHD screen for it for $200. If you just wanted a facebook machine and it was a fair bit cheaper than that then the T510 might make sense.

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This isn't thinkpad specific, but does anyone know what kind of stand is being used here?

My Dell shittop is about to crap out any day now and I'm preparing to get a X1 carbon or similar.
Question is, my SSD is encrypted, at least the home folder is, so how much trouble will it be to move my stuff over?

>>58755775
Forgot to mention I'm on Ubuntu

>>58754407
How do you measure battery wear?

>>58755747
Not sure but it looks like a book stand like you'd use for a cookbook

>>58750876
wasted on a fucking weeb

>>58755824
Didnt measure it myself. I guess colleagues at work can do it for me. Just after draining and recharging few times, it is just what software told me.

>>58755512
yeah most likely, they are quite hard to come by

I'm going to need a cheap laptop starting this September and I'm sure an X220/T420 will do the job. Question is, shall I buy one now or wait a little longer for the prices to drop more? I live in Europe and prices for decent T420s hover around €200.

would i be able to get decent money for my 2 thinkpads
I have a t430s in decent condition
1600x900
i5 3320m
8gb ram
180gb ssd
and an x230 with x220 keyboard
new 9 cell
16gb of ram
275gb ssd
IPS display
thinking about selling both and trading up to something newer as much as i love these my main issue with them is the battery life and the screen resolution....

>>58750876
>prt scr
JUST

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What 3d shooters can I play on my x201 lads? Will GTA San Adreas run on it? What about Age of Empires 3?

>>58751538
Worse build quality (subjectively), single channel RAM, higher price, worse keyboard (again, subjectively).

>>58755576
X220t is wacom right? The wacom panel on my x60t works nicely with xubuntu.

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Are these cheap chink SSDs decent enough? I mean obviously they won't match an 850 EVO on speed but are they going to be especially unreliable and have pathetic write endurance?

Are there zip files of all the drivers I need for my thinkpad?
>W520
>Machine type 4284

>>58756046
harddrives are the only thing im not willing to cheap out on

>>58756046
Why bother? You can pay about twice as much for a 2.5" or three times as much for an mSATA, that will be of a reputable brand, be 120gb and thus better value, as well as being significantly faster. The idea of having a small SSD just for your OS sounds nice but in practice anything small is shit and overpriced.

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Got a x220 Tablet. Are chink batteries good enough or should I go for a Used/Refurbished genuine battery?

>>58756533
There's a 1 in 1 million chance it'll randomly explode

>>58756034
It should run both of those..

I just scored an X201 with 8GB ram, i5, 9 cell battery for $120. So stoked.

Does anyone here really take their W series Thinkpads with them on the go? I really really want a W520.. but like.. 6 pounds, really?

Am I just a fucking shrimp or is that absurdly heavy?

>>58756649
It weighs less than 2 x220s

Unless you're constantly walking around with it outside of a bag I would say the weight isn't relevant

>>58756649
I take mine when I'm going somewhere and want to play more vidya than my phone or X201s could provide. It's not something you really use while en route, because of the CPU throttling while on battery, but rather a powerhouse that you can move from one place to another with far less difficulty than moving a full desktop setup. The weight isn't a big deal to me, but I'm a big guy and I have a sweet IBM Thinkpad bag to carry it in.

>>58756533
Chinks probably use inferior cells. Chances are the capacity will be worse and will also go down over time faster, but if you're need the capacity enough to justify the price of a genuine battery is up to you.

>>58756649
I dd an E530 which is bulkier but slightly lighter. Carrying it around feels like a chore at first but obviously the more you carry it around, less it'll bother you, it doesn't really bother me now. The size can also make it a tad inconvenient. These problems shouldn't bother you significantly unless you're a complete manlet so I wouldn't worry so much about them.

>>58755532
>Just get an older model + a new battery don't waste money on that. The only thing that it shares with the thinkpad series is the trackpoint and the label. Spend that money on another brand or more wisely
>No roll cage
>not waterproof
>no removable battery
>no uprgadability
>less ports

I think that t430 isn't expensive aswell (really good condition ones are <400$ )
T450 in excelent condition and unused battery go for around 550$
DON'T buy T460 and T440, T460 too has no removable battery and T440 has shit touchpad

If you're buying new 13, which is around 600$ you could buy T430+6cell battery and still have 100$ left, or a T450 + 6 cell for the same price

>>58749991
Just search for "T60 backlight" and there's a few listings, assuming the T60p has much the same screen. Also have a look at
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-kit.shtml#order

Looking at replacement screens though, you could probably get a whole new screen for the price of an LED kit. Still might be worth upgrading the backlight if you want the brightness.

>>58755532
Oh yeah, if you're worrying about the specs, here;s my experience

I bought a used T450 for 550$
It had no scratches, wearouts or any visible damage, literally perfect condition. Battery was perfect too, but it was a 3cell so it lasts around 9h. It was still under warranty for two more years and the dude who sold me the laptop apperently bought it but used it only for a month
>i5 5300i
>8gb Ram
>Intel HD 5500
>SSD 250gb
>backlit
>IPS with touchscreen

I spent 60$ more for the 6 cell battery
So now I got a fully configured T450 with 15 hours of battery life for ~600$

The new cheapest Thinkpad 13 costs 600$
>no SSD
>no IPS
>no roll cage
>no carbon fiber materials
>not waterproof
>battery is fixed inside
>generally crap

You do the math

Anyone know a good brand for 2x1gh of ddr2 laptop memory

>>58756827
>>58756946

Thansk for the recommendations, I'll take a look at the T450. I really don't want something large , 14 is pushing it, as I'm used to my c720 running linux.

>>58756046
Don't cheap out on SSD, if it dies you lose your data( data backup is only possible on a hard disk)

>>58756034
Will run smoothly. Also, UT2k4, Half Life 2, Oblivion, etc

T420 vs T430?

I've heard that Sandy Bridge GPU drivers are total crap and it's worth going for at least an Ivy Bridge thinkpad. Is this true?

>>58752685
Hey that's me on the picture HAhAHHAHAHAhAhAhahahhaHahAhAhAha
>am I becoming /g/ famous ?

>>58756946
Also, not really interested in
>no roll cage
>no carbon fiber materials
>not waterproof

>no SSD
It comes with one

>no IPS
Would upgrade for $55

>>58756988
>Not interested in roll cage/ carbon fiber/ waterproof
Why are you buying a thinkpad in the first place than ? ThinkPad is a synonym for durability and toughness, use your money wisely and buy a dell then

>>58756962
If 14" is too much then look at the X series. X220/X230 if you want cheap, maybe X250 if you want something newer and more comparable to the Thinkpad 13.

>>58757008
The keyboard man

Also, that laptop is 3 lbs, 13 inch screen, 10 hour battery life which is all I want

>>58757057
Than just buy x250 it's the same thing as T450 but smaller (12.5 inches i think). I believe you'll be able to find them for the same price

>>58757057
http://www.kupujemprodajem.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X250-41749173-oglas.htm
Yeah here (I know it's 99% not from your country but this is just for comaprison, 550e for the same thing i got and the dude claims it's in perfect condition). If you dig a little bit online, I'm sure you'll find something similar

>>58757091
>x250
Thanks!

bought a t430 i5 8gb ram with a backlit kb for 350 in 2015.
bought the 9cell battery, added a samsung ssd and replaced the touchpad sticker.

best laptop I ever had, the battery life is great, Its super fast on win10(with the useless shit disabled) and it can even play some light games like rocket league, grid or l4d.
The downsides are the shitty screen and the mini display port instead of hdmi.
the cover has a rubber coating that scratches easily.
an external monitor is preferable if you are home desu.

>>58757386
How does rocket league run on t430?

>>58757401
playable for sure, havent checked the fps.
I turned the res down to 720p and chose all the performance options.
online was laggy sometimes but my internet is super shit(sharing a family package plan with 15 people)

l4d and grid work really good tho.

>>58756946
>3cell so it lasts around 9h
what is this sorcery?

I just bought a t430 with i5 2520,1600x900 screen for $150. Is that a good deal?

Probably. I got a T420 for that same price, 1600x900, 120 GB SSD, i5 2520.

>>58758563

Seems good to me senpai

I can get any laptop I want for work.

Trying to decide between a X Yoga or Carbon. I legitimately can't tell if there is any actual reason to get the Yoga over the carbon except for a tent mode I will never use.

Any reason at all to choose the Yoga over a fully speced Carbon?

>>58759072
>15 hour battery

Carbon my man

>>58759079
How is Linux support on it these days?

Any issues with using the dock/sleep/suspend and other common shit like that?

$420 no OS

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00AQ2DS8S/

Buying a new T460, how would I migrate the included copy of windows from the 500 gb hdd to a new ssd?
Way cheaper than letting lenovo do it.

Not even trying to be funny here, anybody else get this odd satisfaction from having multiple thinkpads? I even sold my desktop entirely, and now exclusively have thinkpads. They're just so cool. They are a big middle finger to planned obsolescence, fashion/luxury technology (apple products), and to poor build quality

$1000 to $2000 machines for only a small fraction of the original price
expendable
can have ones in small form factors
minimalist black design, cold, yet comforting when you are sitting behind it typing away

why are they so cool, /g/?

>>58759385

Might be an easier way than this, but just connect both drives to a desktop, and clone the hdd on to the ssd

>>58759432
the modern ones are built like shit, you're getting someone's old, used undies here
>lol apple is junk but muh thinkpad from ebay is good
I own a thinkpad and even I think you're delusional

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i have no idea what is even happening in my life anymore

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>>58759811
more?

>>58759819
this is a blue board anon, you sick fuck

>>58759385
Just reinstall, it'll be faster than purging all the bloat ware manually anyway.

>>58759432
I've got a couple that I've bought broken for cheap and fixed up. Repairing them is a nice bit of fun every now and again, and it's pretty comfy to occasionally pull out a different machine just to shitpost and browse the internet. I wouldn't bother hoarding too many of the same factor or series though. That said my dad just about has a thinkpad or other business laptop for every room in the house.

>>58756955
bump

>>58760011
just get ddr3 mang

>>58760292
if he's asking about ddr2, he doesn't really have a choice

>>58760011
just get some chink shit off ebay, ram is ram

Can someone explain to me why surfing the web on this t430s can be kind of stuttery and annoying when scrolling like on facebook for instance. Surely the i5 3320m doesn't have its work cut out for it....

Why can't the volume mute button light be consistent? On any other laptop if you mute your volume in your OS it realises and puts the light on, like how if you press caps lock on an external keyboard it'll turn it on on your laptop too.

Instead the two fall out of sync, it's annoying, I'm selling my ShitPad over this.

Lads, bought a T420 on the 26th with an estimated delivery of Feb. 1st through 8th. Checked order and seller hasn't even shipped yet. Should I contact him? eBay? Or wait till the 8th to say anything?

>>58760450
SSD might help if you don't have one since browsers a shit
Using a different browser might help
Could be your connection being fickle (maybe slow to respond even if you get good bandwidth)
Could just be shittily made websites, Facebook is pretty fucking intensive just for presenting some text, though that's still not going to cause stutter unless your system is running like shit already.

>>58760525
If you want to know then ask him, nobody is going to mind a quick query like that.

>>58760453
Works for me

>>58760774
its on a fresh install of windows and the laptop has an intel 520 ssd. It just might be Facebook being developed poorly and being a huge resource hog

Bought an X220t for $330 moosebucks w/8GB & dock, how did I do?

Looking for a light portable laptop with full sized ports, wound up looking at the t460s
Some people complain about the FHD screen, but can you justify QHD on a 14" system? How big of a difference is the NVMe SSD from the standard SSD offerings?

How do the U series i7s perform? There are a couple systems with 6th gen HQs i could look into, but i like the form factor of the t460s. Most intense work is going to be opening massive logs and spreadsheets

>>58760453
My T410 running Solus doesn't turn the button lights on or off at all. Maybe it's different for what you've got, but if you really care about it then it's a software problem.

>>58760812
Facebook's definitely badly made, but my machine is slightly worse than yours and I don't notice any issues with it with normal use, save for my connection being shit and making images load slowly.

>>58751552
make sure to use lenovo power manager
or at least just turn off turbo boost.
>>58760525
some sellers are retarded and will say 7 day shipping
but then they'll wait until the last minute and 2 day it.

Is 3 hours the average battery life on a used x220? Is it still possible to get the normal 8 hours if I buy a new battery?

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I've recently install arch on my T410 but can't seem to get the headphone jack to work at all. Any suggestions?

>>58761063
install gentoo

>>58761052
new(ish) battery + lenovo power manager is the only way to reliably get good battery life.
>>58761063
windows 7

>>58761063
Check that you have pulse/alsa set up correctly, that shit's mute by default and it can be a tad confusing figuring exactly where to unmute from.

>t420 w/NVS can barely run (30fps) eve online at medium settings
>want at least 60fps on medium settings
what will let me do this that isn't a bulky W series

>>58761097
If its your GPU limiting things then an external GPU is the only option that doesn't involve getting a new computer.

>>58761144
I've heard about those
I'd rather not have to use it with a external display, that way it's a lot more portable

>>58761070
lenovo power manager isnt even avaliable for windows 10

>>58761172
Then use windows 7
Lenovo power manager is the only reason why I'd pick windows 7 over 10

>>58761180
i still seem to get good battery life though without it
my t430s with its tiny slim battery still gets me 3 hours and 20 minutes (keep in mind this battery is what came with the laptop and im sure it has quite a few cycles on it)
and my x230 with 9cell gets me between 8-10
Does it really make that much of a difference?

>>58761194
yes
on my t420 in windows 10 i could get 6 hours of battery life at best, and like 4-5 normally.
with windows 7 + lenovo power manager I'd easily get 8-9

>>58758455
Laptop has two batteries, one 3 cell on the inside which cannot be removed unless you open the laptop, and one 3 cell battery on the outside that can be removed. Technically it's a six cell. If you upgrade to a 6 cell, you get 6 + 3 cells = 9 cell battery = 14h.

It's a standard on all newer thinkpads, the one good thing about the newer ones, if you have two external batteries like I do, you can swap them without shutting the laptop down = 20h of laptop time

>>58761214
my battery must be shit, at the absolute maximum I get 4 hours on my T420
that's with the 94WH battery

>>58749991
Everything dies eventually. I love my T60p but the fan is crapped up and I can't work out what I need to tighten to fix the loose lid.

>>58761316
>the fan is crapped up
Fan assemblies are dirt cheap if you feel like fixing it.

>>58756649
I take my W500 everywhere. Much better than taking a bunch of textbooks along with me which would end up weighing more than the W500.

>>58761329
I've done fan swaps before on my T43, basically can't be bothered and there's marks on the display as well (1600x1200). I go back and use it once in a while but I basically find it too chunky. If someone knew how to tighten the hinges then I would do that.

Got an X220 for $200 before shipping
>I5-2520M @ 2.50GHz
>8GB RAM
>128GB SSD
>IPS Display
>Good condition 9-Cell
>Near-pristine condition

Did I get cucked or was $200 worth it?

>>58761516
>IPS display
>Near pristine condition
>SSD

Only party in this transaction to get cucked is the seller.

>>58761542
I thought as much too.
There has to be something wrong with it I can't ever imagine someone selling one for such a low price with those specs in that condition.

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I'm looking to buy a T-series to replace my mother aging Penryn-generation Dell Probook.

Would any of T420, 430, 440, or 450 be the better choice for a Windows user who only uses her computer to check Yahoo mail and buying/selling properties?

For your help I hereby give you a cat. Thanks, /g/.

>>58761608
Off lease thinkpads often go lower than typical used price because the business just want to piss the laptops off for a quick buck as they upgrade to the latest.

>>58761678
I got it on ebay.
Either way. If it's even half the specs of that it'll be good to fix up.

How does one make native video init work in coreboot on X200?
Also, is there a way to bypass CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM for flashrom to work without rebuilding the kernel?

>>58761706
Yes and Ebay is where businesses offload off lease thinkpads in bulk.

>>58761717
Oh ok.
Lucky me I guess.
Can't wait for it to arrive.
Est. Delivery is 7th - 17th
So 5 - 15 days.

I'm impatient

so are we gonna see a the 70 stuff soon or what?

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Besides the buying tips in the OP.
What other stuff should I look for?
I'm thinking of getting Edge 430 for 200$

>>58756034
I beat GTA:SA and VC, and half life opposing force, just a few months ago on linux mint, and this was plugged into a 1080p external monitor
If you go for classics, it is surprisingly usable

>>58761742
Never

Little Bird told me Lenovo are selling the thinkpad brand to Acer.

>>58761804
Good

>>58761637
pls respond

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Any games on your thinkpad, Anon?

I'm replaying uqm -
>TN

>>58761828
Desu Ex on x200.
> feelsgoodman

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>>58761828

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>>58761873
>webm~
>dat pro micro
Beautiful use of a stylus, though. What model tablet?

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>>58761828

>>58762018
I like the keyboard
cute vidya anon -

goodnight.jpg

Anybody knows how and where to buy thinkpad or any business laptop in bulk? I was thinking about companies that changes their employees laptop but i don't know where to find them. I want to enter the thinkpad business

>>58756533
Don't go chink on batteries my man.

Got a question in general, how would I stream and play on my x220 games run by my home pc? Over the net it would be fine, but I'm thinking via cable, using the power of the pc but controlling it via the x220?

>>58762123
Set up an IT disposal business and offer removal of old shit as a service. Alternatively you could try contacting existing disposal business I guess, though they're typically the source of thinkpads on ebay and the like anyway.

>>58762137
Steam has an option to stream over the local network which would be easiest if you want to play games that are on Steam anyway.

>>58762196
That's something i didn't thought of, i don't think there are any IT disposal in my area, so i have a whole untouched market for myself if i do it.

>>58762196
Thanks, am doing that via Steam but would seek a solution for non-steam games primarily.

>>58755747
It's literally a picture frame holder the dude picked up from ikea or something. I recall he posted it in a bst thread a while back.

Or a bookstand would also do I think.

>>58762231
Good luck if you do it, I can't imagine it's that hard to get into. One of my local disposalists has occasional markets where where they have all kinds of shit, sometimes 100+ quantities of thin clients or barely broken laptops they accumulate and cant be bothered to even part out, so I'm sure there's fun and money to be had.

>>58762477
I'll look up the paperwork but it's definitely something i could do, and if i get my hand on thinkpads, i could sell them at low prices here since the EU thinkpads are expensives

>>58762290
You can stream non steam games and they usually work.

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How many thinkpads does /tpg/ have?

>>58761637
Well depends
>T420 - classic ThinkPad, kinda getting old but still relevant, features old styled keyboard, and second generation Intel. Not the fastest on the list , but gets things done
around 300$
>T430 - T420 with a new keyboard(just as tactile, it only comes whether you prefer it aesthetically ), 3rd generation intel
around 350-400$
>T440 - radically new design, still made from the same materials = same durability different design, touchpad is crap. 4th gen Intel, again it is slightly better than the previous one, the differences are aesthetic
around 450$
>T450 - the most powerfull on the list, same as T440 but with old styled touchpad and 2 batteries(one inside, one outside), 5th gen Intel
around 550$

They are all as durable but aesthetically different, each newer one is slightly better in terms of processing power and battery life. It all comes down to how much money are you willing to pay and whether you like old/new style or combo(T430)

>>58762749
A lot , how could we even count ?

>>58762790
>T450
>most powerful
The T430 is the strongest on the list. Full voltage CPU (which can potentially be swapped for a quadcore) and dedicated GPU option makes a much bigger difference than the generation jump from Ivy Bridge to Broadwell. Broadlell is only about on par with Sandy Bridge, it just uses much less power.

Is there a better screen I can drop into an x220

>>58762859
768p IPS is the best standard one, FHD with chinky mods that you'll probably never be able to get hold of.

>>58762903
Once we're in the cyberpunk megacorp future we'll be able to get chinkshit on every corner

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How long until T420 becomes obsolete?

>>58762914
>he thinks the cyberpunk megacorp future is still the future
we just didn't get any of the cool shit, only the dystopia

>>58762823
No, the T450 is, both i7 and i5 cores that come with T450 outperform T430 stock CPU's in every way

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-5300U-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3210M/m16790vs2719
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5600U-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3520M/m22612vsm50

Swapping the CPU is a big IF
(I could say, well if I swapped and frankensteined the mother board of a T450 it would outperform any gaming laptop )

Dedicated GPU is nice, but I was talking about processing power, not gaming power

>>58762934
A few more years

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why do people do this

>>58762982
The majority of i5 T430s on ebay have 3320ms, which just about edges out the 5300u according to that site and handily beats it at passmark.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-5300U-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3320M/m16790vsm402
http://cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=817&cmp[]=2459

Swapping the T420/T430 CPU for a quadcore has been done by plenty of people, there's no ifs about it. The CPU in the T450 is soldered to the board and nobody's done any special mods for it that I know of.

>>58763046
After that what would be a decent choice?
T450?

>>58762941
Being able have chinkshit delivered to your door is nearly as good. If you want to see trading of old parts and such in meatspace it does happen to some degree, it's just mostly middle aged neckbearded men who do shit like stockpiling thinkpads as a hobby.

Besides, you could really go in for the cyberpunk aesthetic by just using any chink screen and making it compatible through adapters either with internal dock connections or just outright external cables.

>>58762934
It's going to be a long while before they become fully redundant, not mundane computing tasks are going to become too strenuous anytime soon. Though the T430 should eventually become cheap enough to make the T420 obsolete as a budget choice, and after the T430 the improvements become very minor.

>>58763074
It's the only newer decent Thinkpad out there
T440 is complete crap, after they made T450 i kind of got my hopes they will start to go back to what Thinkpad used to be, but T460 is utter crap

>T400,T410,T420 - fine regular thinkpads
>T430 - new keyboard, but everything is fine, we ca get used to this it's ok
>T440 - shit touch pad, soldered CPU, no dedicated GPU
>T450 - two batteries, and back to old touchpad - cool
> CPU still soldered and no dedicated GPU, but it's fine - not cool, but still feels like a Thinkpad
>T460 - identical to T450

>>58763124
>not mundane computing tasks are going to become too strenuous anytime soon
Have you visited modern websites?
I can't browse facebook unless I use mobile site.

>>58763248
Well more recent models aren't a huge improvement in processing power, so they'll be struggling to browse the web regardless. Not that the shit performance is that noticeable for me with a 3210M, though I mostly use pidgin for facebook anwyay.

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Is there any way to get a 'middle mouse press' on a ThinkPad? On a desktop I'm super used to being able to just middle click the mouse to be able to open a link without interrupting the current tab. I tried using SharpKeys but not only does it not recognise the TrackPoint's middle press thing as a key, it also does not seem to be able to make a key into a middle mouse press.

>>58763315
>pidgin for facebook
I'm doing that as well on my T420 with i5 2520.
But for the rest of the site it's resource hog.

>>58763361
Can you not just ctrl click

>>58763361
If you're on windows then the drivers handle the middle button like shit. I think the default windows ones are actually a bit more sensible in that particular regard than synaptics.

Generic Linux drivers should handle it all fine though - middle button is a middle mouse button unless you use it with the trackpoint to scroll.

>>58763374
I just went to test it on my T410 with an i5-520 and it was a bit jerky though not terrible. The main issue that just scrolling through the main page was giving me temperatures as high as 99C up from an idle temperature of 45-50. I guess I can't blame you for using the mobile site then, their developers are just fucked.

>>58763479
>>58763374
OK, so I got I interested by this.
I think the new design is to force users o use the applications instead since API doesn't require that much power.

>>58763066
This.

I have a quad in my T430 and it's a much cheaper alternative to a T450. It's a beast.

>>58761637
Holy shit, I haven't seen that cat since 2007
Anyway, T430 is the one you want

>>58756533
"Genuine" Lenovo batteries ARE chink batteries. I have had great luck with generic brand chink batteries, I buy off that warehouse site and go by reviews.

It's so much cheaper that it is worth a try at least.

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So the chink palmrest I ordered for my T420 just arrived, planning to replace it this weekend. How's the driver compatibility on these things usually? Will I have any issues with the touchpad drivers under Win7, or the thing uses the same chip and should work fine with the old ones?

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the left side of a t430 palm rest was moving a tiny bit, but it was pretty annoying. after disassembly i noticed that this piece is chipped off. is there a way of fixing it or do i have to buy a new palm rest?

>>58759432
I started out accidentally, with an old (((i series))) "Thinkpad" which I was given, now I have seven. I am using my X40 as a daily driver just to see how old of a computer I can tolerate, and with an SSD and maximum RAM it is quite nice, perhaps a bit stately. As that thing is as tricked as it will ever be now, I am looking at upgrading the T60 I recently acquired. It has the nice screen and is dual core, so I imagine it will feel 10x faster than the X40.

Well observed, though. Fuck throwawaytops with their fucking chicklet keyboards and glued in batteries.

>want to buy thinkpad
>all the t420 with my countrys keyboard start from 300eurshillings
>tfw overpriced shit

>>58764045
If you have issues it's really easy to replace the trackpad with the one from your previous palmrest.

>>58763361
When I ran just Linux I loved that it could handle middle mouse click and also scroll, but sadly I've never been able to find a way to get it to work on Windows, it's either one or the other. Sorry. It took a while but I trained myself out of it and now I just right click and tap T very quickly, since because of the perfect ergonomics of the trackpoint my finger is already near the T button.

>>58764096
I have the same issue. I just try to ignore it.

>>58764004
Which warehouse site?

>>58763427
Didn't know this existed :/

>>58762749
3. G40 (needs a new HDD), X61t (needs me to remove a stripped screw and/or put it back together), and T420 (needs new RAM, but works for now.)

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>>58764702
The one for large women.

im thinking about getting a thinkpad again. i really liked my t430 besides the awful display. tahts why im thinking about buying a cheap thinkpad and upgrading it with a full hd (maybe even ips) display. my budget is around 500. which thinkpad should i go for, any ideas?

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I have to choose between a T420 and a T520
Is the T420 really superior and why are 15'' better/worse?

>>58765217
>cumstained thinkpad
Memes are real

>>58764871
Noell Foley is a w series

>>58765217
T420 is mostly the same but smaller. Up to you if a bigger screen is worthwhile, but it doesn't really make a huge difference to use while being a fair bit bigger. The main advantage of the T520 is probably just the potential for a FHD screen.

>>58765231
>cumstained
Those ain't no stains nigga, that is fresh jizz right there.

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>>58765239
More like an A series.

>>58765365
dat bitch thicc tho

>>58764045
I have a W530.


Now that that's off my chest, I plan on transplanting a 7-row keyboard into it and giving it a W520 palmrest. My W520 came with no fingerprint scanner or color calibrator. Is it possible to order a palmrest with fingerprint scanner and color calibrator and install it on my W530.

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Is there anything I can do with the useless optical drive on my T510? I gather you can put another drive in quite easily but I don't have much use for one, anything else I could do with it?

>>58765885
What a worthless post from a worthless person.

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>>58766159
I sincerely apologise.

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The optic drive on my T420 have died.
Do generic laptop optic drive work? or do you need specific one for the T420?
Is there a way to swap the tray cover?

What do you think about T460 model?

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>>58751552
get on my level

Should i buy a x220t or a x220?

Why is the x220t cheaper than the x220?

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Will this battery explode in my Thinkpad?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/142201615163

>>58766659
Do you want a tablet?

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Do people who have multiple thinkpads actually use all of them or is it a collector thing

>>58766659

Just get the x220, if you never use the tablet feature, you're just adding more weight.

>expected delivery date: Feb 6th
>already out for delivery
Well hot damn, guess Ill get to play around with my T420 this afternoon

>>58766892
I have:
>380e
I use for dos/win95 stuff and vidya
>t30
I used it as Linux machine many years ago but these days its just gathering dust(pentium 4 and 512mb ram is pure hell)
>t500
my current collage laptop that I use daily

Im going to disable hyperthreading on my memepad to see if temps improve a bit, on the bios cpu setting tab I see 2 options:
-Core multi-processing [Enable] [Disable]
-Intel Hyper Threading Technology [Enable] [Disable]

Anyone know what the differences are?

>T450s FHD IPS
close to 300 nits of brightness, 90% sRGB
>T460 FHD IPS
barely 220 nits of brightness, 60% sRGB
>T470
supposedly has the same panel options as the T460

just WHY? does lenovo make it their goal to have the shittiest screens? is 1080p FHD with decent colors and brightness too much to ask for in fucking 2017?

>>58766892
I only have two right now, and I currently just use one of them (T430), as a desktop, with battery unplugged, and external monitor + kb & mouse

but my plan when I have some more cash is to have multiple

>one to stay at my desk like a desktop (the point behind this is to have a battlestation I can take anywhere or move easily when needed)
>one to use on the go
>one that is a backup, totally unused to sit in a closet or something
>one to leave at either my parents house, a bank deposit box, or a self storage unit in a single backpack with some cash, clothes, and tools if I ever have to start my life over again

>>58767143
>one to leave at a self storage unit in a single backpack with some cash, clothes, and tools if I ever have to start my life over again

that's pretty cyberpunk rock

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>>58767051
I hope it arrives broken you piece of shit.

>>58767210
I know it sounds kind of edgy/wannabe badass, but let me explain

I have been in natural disasters before - having to leave everything behind is no bueno
secondly, now that I know you can buy thinkpads for so cheap, why not get a bunch and satisfy my nerd desires? its so cool that I can get laptops for less than $100, that will still last for years despite being old already

lastly, it is a legitimate safety net. Over my childhood, I was in two serious hurricanes (katrina and some other one I can't remember), and also multiple tornadoes

It made me realize that in an instant, you can lose everything. Knowing that I already have some stuff waiting for me would be a comfort. I don't have anything that I could not replace, besides my hoard of files (which I've slimmed down to less than 1tb), so to solve that I plan on having multiple ext hdds around 500gb with the shock resistance pouches for each of them, and I'll leave one to use and one unused at my house, one at parents house, and one wherever I decide to leave that backpack, whether it be a bank or storage unit

>256 GB SSD, 8GB RAM, i7 X240
>$400
Other than the keyboard and trackpad, did I do good, /tpg/?

>>58767301
I don't think it's a problem to have a gobag or two. As long as you're not going full blown prepper or one of those people who can't leave the house without their "city survival bag" with their water straw filters.

>>58767389
>x240

enjoy that shitty abomination of a trackpad + clit mouse

>>58767408
I literally said "aside from the trackpad and keyboard"
Learn to read nigger

>>58766892
I have an x230 tablet that I use for work and travel. OneNote with draw-to-math makes my life much better. And then I have a w530 with an i7QC and FHD when I need more power than that.

>>58765525
Bumping for this.

>>58767389
>other than the trackpad and keyboard.
You got decent hardware for $400, but the shitty human interface practically defeats the purpose.

>>58767222
Why anon, why? I'm surprised it's arriving from 3000 miles away through USPS in 3 days too.

>>58767432
lol, you got me, I actually only saw the "x240" and had to post, it was almost instinct anon

anyways, I'm sure you'll enjoy it though. I use a T430, and I love it, and the iGPU performance is actually noticeable compared to the sandy bridge i5 m line, so I bet your x240 will probably give you even better graphical performance than the __30 series will

>>58767401
no, I sometimes shill minimalism here, I actually am in the process of selling most of my material possessions, almost done now

I always thought the "edc nerd XD" meme was just a meme, I didn't realize people were actually serious about that shit

>this faggot has a gf and you don't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1CHMmztqTM

>>58767389
For that money you can get x250

>>58767493
>edc nerd XD
Where can I go to learn about this?

>>58767507
Only X250 with an i7 that I could find was $800; I need the virtualization features.

>>58767493
There yah go, that's what I needed to hear; I just wanted to know if the internals were fucky in some way.

>>58767478
True. I used to use an x201. But the motherboard got fried by a loose screw, so I needed a new laptop ASAP. I don't think I'll mind the keyboard much, I have a desktop with a Model F. I'll miss the good trackpoint and 16:10, though.

>>58767571
/g/ and /out/ would be hotspots for it on 4chins

>>58767574
What features i7-4600u has that i5-5300u doesnt? They are like the same performance

>>58767574
I had an X240, but sold it for a loss and moved to an X230. Battery life wasn't as good, but the touchpad+trackpoint was terrible. Really only *that bad* because the only onboard input was the notoriously finicky trackpad.

>>58767619
Larger cache and faster turbo, but on second look, you're right, the newer i5 has basically all the same features.

>>58767716
Hm. Well, I guess I'll have to live with it. I can't cancel at this point, I need it as soon as it gets here. I mostly use keyboard based input (dwm, vim/emacs, terminals in general), but it's a shame to hear that. I may replace the laptop in a few years, but for now it'll have to do. May play with the configs to get it working better. Thanks for letting me know.

>>58752685
well, it's a fucking nice machine ! and for my surprise it also has
Video Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce GT 620M/625M/630M/710M/720M/820M/NVS 5200M

which wasn't in the offer!
HD+, 16gigs, 500gb, which i will swap with the ssd from my t410, docking station with usb 3.0 and 2 PSUs, backlit.

Any recommended mods to squeeze more battery life from it ? The battery is supposedly at 80.9% wear, will see hold it holds. I've already put it on power saver and reduced the max cpu state at 90%, i think it disables the turbo, which i barely need anyway.

Btw, if i swap the ssd with the hdd, should windows install the missing drivers, right ?I want to do it painlessly as possible.

fuck, i'v enever imagined i'd have two dankpads

>>58767785
for 225euros*

http://www.frys.com/product/8886462

Does this fit in a T420?

>>58767759
Also it can have 16gb of ram vs 8 on the x240.
Im from eu but prices of x240 and x250 are similar enough that x250 is almost always better deal. Once i get some money Im definitely buying one

>>58767759
to be honest, if you're in emacs all day you don't really need a mouse. Bring your email to emacs and you'll be a happier person. It's what 4chan would call the "normie stuff" that sucks on an x240. If you're trying to select a cell in a spreadsheet or straining for that "x" button in the middle of a webpage, the x240 will always remind you that it's, well... an x240.

Godspeed to you though, if you can look past the lack of practical features like easy scrolling, and never having to take your hands off of the home row, it can be a good laptop. I believe it's unable accept the older 7-row keyboards, but I would do some research.

Let us know how it all works out for you, anon. We really care.

what's a thinkpad that I can buy for cheap and upgrade the processor to an i7?

>>58767882
XPS 13

>>58767851
>It's what 4chan would call the "normie stuff" that sucks
Oh well Jesus if that's the case I'll be fine. Thanks anon, I care about you too :^)

Is anon memeing or is this some actual rumor? I would like that.
>>58761804
>>58761804

>>58767759
don't be too discouraged, get a qck steelseries mini mousepad, and logitech m325

the pad is $11, the mouse is around $15, both with free shipping (assuming US)

both are very small and lightweight, the hardware of the x240 is fine, the trackpad is seriously the only problem

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>>58768018
Currently mobilefagging because I don't have no laptop, but this is the size of desk I have every day. My x201 spilled off the sides of this. I'll just have to live with the trackpad desu fampai

>>58768052
dang, that is small

RIP in piece anon

>>58765885
suzy is surprisingly thicc.

just got an x200 libreboot or coreboot which one should i use

>>58768108
Same thing if you have a C2D era laptop. Libreboot is just deblobbed coreboot, and since the x200 needs no blobs, it's the same thing.

Will Sandy era thinkpads ever support libreboot?

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Is mint cinnamon fine on a t420 and x220 or should I go for xubuntu or Xfce Mint

>>58768277
Maybe, now that there's IME cracks out in the wild.

>>58768431
>Mint
Don't use Mint. Mint is a hacky piece of unprofessional shit. Xubuntu is a much better option, or just basically any mainstream distro with Xfce installed, if that's your preference.

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>>58768465
I'm not that familiar with linux but I figured it would be in my best interest to get comfortable with it and I know xubuntu runs very well on lower spec laptops.

I don't have a preference for mint I just hear people talking about it all the time.

>>58767389
i think you can pop in a trackpad from an x250 and get real buttons for the pointer

>>58768496
That's fine, it's just that Mint is kind of a normie trap. It's the IE toolbars of Linux, basically, except it's not *technically* malicious software by intention, just by ineptitude by its developers. Xubuntu is the much better option if you're looking for a lightweight distro. Other options include Solus or Debian XFCE, but I'd definitely recommend starting with Xubuntu.

I'm glad you're getting into Linux, anon; you're in for a magical ride.

>>58767921
That's neither cheap or a thinkpad.

>>58768579
I'll just stick with xubuntu for now then, thanks

>>58768052
are you a cute girl or a fag

All i care about is performance, dont care about screen (having it plugged into mointor) or portability. Is T460p the best to get for me?

This still seems very expensive, like £1500+ for 32gb and the lenovo has SSD PCI max at 256GB on the configuration, 500gb is SATA 3.

>>58768187
so will grub be on the bios or can i have it chain load the one on the hdd

>>58768565
I'll look into it, although that's probably going to be a future purchase, because I can't risk fucking this thing up; I already did a fan replacement on my previous laptop, and the fan got bent in transit, so the whole thing got fried and died. I think the most intensive thing I'll be doing to this laptop for a while is replacing the thermal paste, since most laptops have really shit thermal paste (and way too much of it) for some reason. Wouldn't it benefit these companies at the scale that they're producing the motherboards to use the right amount and save a little bit of thermal paste per board, thus saving a lot total?

>>58768652
W series is the performance line. If you want to have raw compute, get the W series, not the T series.

>>58768652
Or, if you really don't care about portability, get a desktop machine. If you need to move it between monitors, get a microATX PC with one of those tiny shoebox cases. They could fit in some backpacks pretty easily.

A 430 isn't much better than a 420, right?

>>58769195
*40 is where the internals improved, the *30 vs *20 debate is "do you want a shittier keyboard/trackpad? Go with the 30"
The difference between the *20 and *30 internally is 2-5% performance and 1-2% battery. The difference between the *20 and *40 for internals is 25-50% CPU improvement and 2x battery life.

>>58769675
citation(s) needed, fag

>>58769778
Excuse me, I was mistaken with the CPU *performance* improvement, but I was right with the power consumption: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=2033&cmp%5B%5D=876

They're about the same performance, but significantly better performance per watt (2x).

>>58769908
Also way better integrated GPU & native USB 3.0 support

Personally I'd get the T430 and do the keyboard swap. No USB 3.0 in 2017 is shit.

>>58769675
30 series have FAR better both integrated and dedicated graphics performance, and most importantly native usb 3
>>58769195
30 series have about the same battery life, but far better graphics and usb 3 is really nice
Keyboard's feel is better than the 20 series, it's just the layout thats stupid.
Plus you get used to it quickly
And it's still a hell of a lot better than most other laptop keyboards layouts

>>58769778
Citations for battery life:
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-x240
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-review/4/
Not the exact same test, but the X220 has 4.25 hours of battery life, while the X240 has 7.75. So, yeah, nearly double the battery life, too.

>>58770024
Right, that, too. The 40 is a massive step up, the 30 is much more mild. If you're debating between the 20 and 30, you have to prioritize keyboard layout/trackpad or *features*, not performance and battery life. 40 is a massive step up in battery performance, heat, and features from the 20, and a massive step up in the first two from the 30.

>>58770057
At least post reviews that use the same fucking battery test.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-IPS-Subnotebook.55639.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X240-Ultrabook.106883.0.html

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>>58770057
Yea, you fucking faggot. Also, I don't see the x230 you fucking miserable motherfucker.
>>58770207

>Ever unironically using an X240

I've become disillusioned with my T430. I still have my X200 for portable thinkpad use, but what would be a reasonable price to sell this thing to put money towards having a desktop again?

i7 3612qm, 8gb DDR3, 120gb SSD, 300gb HDD UltraBay, good battery life. Would come with a charger, minidock, and swissgear bag.

>>58770730
shieet. Sounds like a pretty nice setup imo.

>>58770811
It is and it's honestly more powerful than the desktop I had before it, but it's still just not enough for me.

I hope my t420 fits in my backpack meant for 17in or less laptops.

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>>58749335
Why not pick up a nice little USB external DAC and headphone amp? You only need to buy one and the problem is solved forever on all future devices, even works with phones via USB OTG.

I have the FiiO E10 and alongside my X230 it always leaves me happy (especially with headphones with a modicum of impedance, like my HD598s - then you really need one.)

Even the cheaper and smaller ones like the E6 (pictured left) are a significant improvement over Conextant crap.

>>58770837
considering it's 14" I seriously doubt you'll have problems, even if you put it in diagonally.

>>58771342
Just came in, it fits in pretty snug, which is pretty good. It won't be moving around much. Maybe I should go full fedora and get a messenger bag.