/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>tfw cancelled tada
>tfw bought realforce 91 instead

Fuck off originative. I hope anyone falling for the Extent meme gets similarly ruined.

>>58740100
I bought a Tada for $60 on taobao plus $35 shipping. Now the question is did I fill everything out correctly

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daily reminder + autism in it's natural habitat:
>>>58721532
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What's the best key switch for someone who touch types?

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Model F incoming

Anyone here buying the EXENT? Shits looking awesome.

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>>58740296
i don't know why touch typing would be relevant but you should get clears

>>58740317
It looks stupid and if Originative is involved, it will be a bad launch.

Taking a 65% then adding a giant bezel to it lmao. Zero purpose.

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>>58740315
Fuck it I'll post all 3 of my babies. Considering powdercoating the beamspring the same colour as it has a couple of scratches due to it's age.

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so i REALLY LIKE these keycaps and im also new to mechanical keyboards

would putting them on Anne PRO work? or would it be like lipstick on a pig

>>58740347
You're just a pleb who doesn't understand design. There are already a ton of standard keyboards, this is something more sophisticated.

>>58740369
>People complain about EXENT bezels but turn around and fawn over IBM clunkers.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tai-hao-miami-keycap-set?referer=AH4LUP

Miami is back

>>58740375
it would work fine

>>58740384
I have no problem with large bezels, and old IBM's are the best boards money can buy, period.

>>58740376
lmao

I'm perfectly happy with my $70 QFR with aftermarket PBT caps and feel absolutely no need to engage in any more nerd consumerism.

Is something wrong with me?

>>58740375
I'm seriously tempted to get these too.
I live in the UK so to get the design I like with UK edition keycaps would cost me $142.93

31.99 - kit
10 - BETA
24.99 - BASIC ICON MOD
20.99 - BAHAUS
7.99 - iso enter
9.99 - uk kit
19.99 - calc
16.99 - delivery


Does anyone know if I'd get charged import fees from massdrop? alternatively convince me I don't need this/can get better elsewhere

>>58740375
>indented caps
y tho

>>58740018
Hey /g/ is this any good?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Steelseries-Cherry-MX-Black-Keyboard-WITH-ORANGE-PBT-KEYCAPS-/122329972177?hash=item1c7b6f3dd1:g:0acAAOSwA3dYjMx~

Is it usually possible to use blank 1x1 keycaps from the 2nd row of the numpad for other key places on the 2nd bottom row? for example if I want 1x1 shift keys could I use the 1 and 3 from the numpad?

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>>58740187
Can we see more of your feet?

>>58740733
At that price yes.

Sort of wish I was in the UK now.

>>58740654
Bad goy, you should be buying more $200 limited run keycap sets!

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>>58740750
you can use whatever you feel like

>>58740833
what caps are those?

>>58740833
so in standard keyboards all keycaps have the same profile? Like if i put caps from different rows in the same row it will still be uniform? what about orientation?

Does anyone sell interesting keycaps for topre?

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>>58740856
>so in standard keyboards all keycaps have the same profile?
depends on some there are uniform profiles like DSA and G20 on others each row has a different profile

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>>58740866
yes Clack Factory does

>>58740895
Perfect, thanks.

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>>58740226
rubber is the only way to go

>>58740938
what keycaps

>>58740974
gmk carbon

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>>58740376

>>58740990
thank ;)

>>58740018
What ype of switches are those? Reversed cherry mx?

>>58741018
Futa switches

what would be a good modern keyboard with the two columns of keys on the far left?

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>>58741114
A Unicomp 122 key keyboard

Objectively are gat blues the best overall switch?

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>>58740895
do these caps look DSA, they say they are alps keycaps but I think that's just the compatible switch not the profile.

>>58741187
Alps went out of business long ago so they can't make keycaps any more. DSA is only made by signature plastics, but there are Chinese clones out there. Those are most likely OEM profile

>>58741114
RS78

>>58741154
>>58741296
thanks.

What about a TKL with a unix layout? I can't find any.

>>58741424
there is the HHKB if you want smaller.

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Keyboards_with_Unix_layout

>>58741510
neat. would you happen to know what switch is most like ye old domes?

>>58741556
a rubber dome

>>58741424
Pretty much any programmable tkl will let you have unix layout

Winkeyless.kr have the b.87 which also supports two 1u keys in the position backspace normally occupies too

Will the Mito XDA on massdrop have good resell value?

>>58741051
Oh, I thought that was a meme for a moment.

>>58741731
Don't buy new keycap sets hoping they'll be valuable. That's a losing game.

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>>58741731
I don't think so

>>58741731
I don't think you understand what really creates good resale value.

It's scarcity. And the only ways to have scarcity are by having very few produced in the first place, or by having the number in existence reduce drastically from wear. The first is definitely out of the question, the second you'll be waiting for decades.

>>58741424
The KUL ES-87 has dip switches that allow you to have a unix layout. Another alternative would be a CM Quickfire Rapid + Frosty Flake controller.

>>58740833
>>58740847
does anyone know?

>>58742022
Generic OEM profile backlit caps.

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Poorfag here, literally just bought my first mechanical ever. I had used a Saitek rubber dome since 2005 (!!) and it finally started giving out.

Keys (browns) feel nice man. Got the Velocifire, since it was under 30 dollars USD. One day when I have a better job I'll get a good keyboard

Pic related

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Is this retarded? I want to make a keyboard with a unique layout.

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>>58742824
>I want to make a keyboard with a unique layout.
Just make your own GH60. They have a bunch of preprogrammed layouts and if you want you can make your own.

>>58742936
I'd like to but I really want arrow keys.

whats a good website that sell quality keycaps that are readily available

>>58743016
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
Keycaps:

http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/
- http://www.massdrop.com/
- http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments
- http://imsto.cn/

also:
mechanicalkeyboards.com
All the chink websites like banggood and aliexpress

>>58743119
thanks

>>58740226
This made me consider buying a handful of $3 braided chink cables. Probably the same result of an expensive meme one.

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:3

Posted from my android.

What are good silent keyboards in the market? The noise my keyboard makes drives my crazy.

>>58743837
Topre
just not the RF RGB

>>58743475
All I can find on AliExpress are the £6 ones. Where can I find dirt cheap braided chink mini USB cables?

>>58743837
Matias QC, and those silent cherry switches in Filco and Leopold keyboards

>>58743952
I bought these, but they're micro USB, not mini: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB/32538473833.html

Try searching for "braided mini USB", maybe you find something.

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Can somebody identify these switches? Looks like cherry mount but the housing is completely different than a normal cherry or cherry clone...

>>58744333
what's the name of the keyboard?

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>>58743837
>>58744004
Case noise has a great impact on the peak noise of a keyboard.
Although a switch may be clicky, bottoming out is usually the loudest part of a keyboard's operation.
Lube can also reduce the noise of a keyboard.
>>58744333
Nice digits but you could give us a full picture of the front and back of the keyboard.

>>58744333
checked, but seriously it could be anything. Unless you have the model or the manufacturer of the keyboards we can't help you. For now I'll say its a dome and slider

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good night /mkg/

>>58744450
>>58744424
>>58744333

Nevermind, I found it.

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Aristotle_Cherry_MX_clone

I think the reflection of the camera flash threw me off... Gonna swap the clones with some Cherry MX Browns.

It's a KB-5981 if you still care, one of the first Cherry MX boards to have a windows key also came with a variety of other kinds of switches

>>58744414

forgot to give you your (You)

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>M10-A coming along more or less on schedule

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

>>58743952
>>58743952

Just use this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Micro-USB-Cable-V8-Metal-Braided-nylon-Mobile-Phone-Charging-Cord-2-0-Data-sync-Charger/32754699740.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.59PNdx

Or this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SAUFII-USB-Data-Charger-Cable-Nylon-Braided-Wire-Metal-Plug-Micro-USB-Cable-for-iPhone-6/32750620671.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.13.K0J1Wv&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10068_10000032_119_10000025_10000029_430_10000028_10060_10062_10056_10055_10000062_10054_301_10059_10099_10000022_10000012_10103_10000015_10102_10096_10000018_10000019_10000056_10000059_10052_10053_10107_10050_10106_10051_10000053_10000007_10000050_10084_10083_10118_10000047_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10115_10037_10033_10000041_10000044_10078_10079_10077_10000038_429_10073_10000035_10121,searchweb201603_9,afswitch_2,single_sort_2_default&btsid=c3cadd76-ca7a-4742-9b05-b0c4f6327abf

Also an honorable mention a lot of people like: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VOXLINK-Camouflage-Nylon-Braided-Micro-USB-Cable-USB-Type-C-Date-Sync-Charge-Cable-For-iphone/32711217316.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.315.dqPOsy&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10068_10000032_119_10000025_10000029_430_10000028_10060_10062_10056_10055_10000062_10054_301_10059_10099_10000022_10000012_10103_10000015_10102_10096_10000018_10000019_10000056_10000059_10052_10053_10107_10050_10106_10051_10000053_10000007_10000050_10084_10083_10118_10000047_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10115_10037_10033_10000041_10000044_10078_10079_10077_10000038_429_10073_10000035_10121,searchweb201603_9,afswitch_2,single_sort_2_default&btsid=0a3dc573-3285-45b5-af9f-15ac823b9853

These URLs suck.

will this come back ever?

http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-granite-keyset/

>>58744641
Fun fact just stop at the html.

>>58744685
Yeah it did a couple months ago then sold out instantly

>>58744685
it was literally just restocked

Finally making progress on my ergo clear board. Desoldering everything is taking a bit, but my plan is to have it done by the middle of next week. Right now I'm just working on it for a bit here and there after work.

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More over Topre fucking shits

New DSAs just came in

>>58744723
>>58744726
and this one?

http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-eve-keycap-set-in-production/

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>>58744627
I don't like the look of that specific product but having a keyboard surrounded by a hulking hunk of metal seems pretty cool.
I bet it wouldn't slide around like my HHKB.

>>58744791
Ask Mitto since he owns the design

>>58744627

>le no text key caps
but then
>le epic panic button meme

literally forgoing text to be a hipster then adding meaningless text to be a next level hipster

>>58744862
Check the Exent, bezels so big it's a 65% that's bigger than a TKL.

would it be stupid to put MiTo Canvas XDA Alphas with TLK modifiers on a Anne PRO

I just picked up a Filco 2S TKL w/cherry mx red silents did I do good?

>>58745419
I don't know. Do you like it?

>>58745371
Those keycaps look stupid on everything

>>58745558
which ones

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>been using my model m for a few months now
>enjoy it
>switch back to rubber dome
>realize that I can type much faster on RD than my model m
fug

>Budget
~$100, fairly flexible

>Location
Canada

>Preferred switch type
reds (or whatever the best is for gaming that won't also be picked up by my condenser mic. Currently use those razer switches and my understanding is that they're comparable to blues. They feel really good, but they're way too loud and people I chat with complain)

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Not sure, either 100% or no numpad. I've never actually owned a numpad-less keyboard but I cannot recall ever using it once. Only concern would be if some new software I need uses it but that seems unlikely

>Backlight
Only if the keyboard has appropriate software to control the light. I keep the light on my current keybaord at 2/100. No lights are preferable to bright lights. Colours: green or blue

>current keyboard
Blackwidow ultimate 2014.

Pros:
>I like the feel of the keys
>the keyboard itself feels good, nice and weighted
Cons:
>my crtl key broke, repair and replacement options are limited
>lack of customization

why does nobody make a complete (not a kit) ortholinear/matrix keyboard?

>>58745806
companies do, just not mechanical ones

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Looks like /mkg/ will be swamped with MiTo Canvas boards come July.

>tfw fell for the mechanical keyboard meme
>tfw the most uncomfortable shit ever if you use it all day

thanks

>>58744333
If it's clicky, then it's an aristotle, if not you've probably got a slider over dome.

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Loving it, although sometimes fantasizing about a tkl or 60%

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>Budget
~$100 NZD
>Location (continent at least)
New Zealand

>Preferred switch type
Clicky, high actuation force

>Layout
ISO or ANSI, I don't mind

>Form factor
60% or tenkeyless

>Backlight
Nope

>Previous/current keyboards
Only ever used rubber domes. Using pic related atm

>>58746884
Just let me know if I'm a cheap faggot and budget isn't high enough

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where do i get these imhard

>>58747069
This meme needs to die

>>58744641
I have trouble believing these cables have the proper amperage. There's not even any info on the details

Can someone post that pic of the keyboard that is always posted here, the one that has kind of a retro look to it but apperently is very expensive. All i remember is that it has a coiled cable and it was cream/grey or something with a few orange or red keycaps


I think you know the one I'm talking about

>>58748006
No, we really don't.

>>58747069
>wanting anything from originative co.

lol

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Help me decide /g/entoomen.
Im looking for a 100% keyboard with brown switches, preferably gateron but i'll settle for cherry, its babbies first mech key btw.

I'm looking at a few keyboard right now and was wondering if anyone can give me some good/bad points about these boards.

I'm mainly looking at the ducky one (pic related) & the leopold FC900R.

The leopold is more expensive and I dont like sideprinted keys so If i'd buy a set the leopold would end up being about $50 more expensive.

I like the looks of the ducky board & its caps except for the calc+media keys. Im not used to having any media keys and I'll probably never use them since I leave all my audio on 100% and control the levels through my amp. If i do decide to change caps on this board I'd have 4 extra keys without caps.
(is it easy to rebind those keys to something useful ?)

But besides looks I know fuckall about mech keyboards so maybe someone can shine some light onto this for me. Is there any mayor difference between the boards ? Build quality, spill resistance, noise damping or some other feature im not aware of?

>>58748035
>just bought 110 MOD switches from OriginativeCo

awwww yeahhhh

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>>58744862
The RAMA M65-A likely won't slide around due to it weighing four pounds.

>>58744641
Thanks anon but these are all micro USB...

How common is keyboard chatter with red switches? My A, L and 0 often double or even pentatype when pressed. I wonder if I should RMA my keyboard or is there anything I can do about it?

>>58748221
Well the ducky keyboard has macro support so if you don't like those 4 keys over the numpad then you can use them for something else

>>58748609
if you can rma it why wouldn't you

>>58748033
I think it was a topre realforce

>>58748631
because I don't have any replacement at all, I've ordered current one because my old one broke.
It's also just 2 months old, so I am afraid the replacement I get will be refurbished or will develop the same issue, so maybe I should return it completely instead of asking the shop to fix it.

>>58748609
Key chatter is a common issue on mx style switches. If you are worried it might happen again then just get a Topre keyboard since they are immune to keychatter for atleast 30 million clicks

>>58748839
I see, thank you.
So topre are something different altoghether, instead of detecting a physical contact, like membrane or mechanical keyboards do, they measure capacity change like touch screen devices.

It's a shame it's way over my budget, but I'll keep these in mind.

>>58748609
I've only had chattering on one keyboard of mine and it was an old 7G

I'd say if you like reds, let it get repaired, if you don't think they're that great get your money back

>>58748909
I liked them a lot until they stopped working right and I have no idea why. Then I started googling why it might happen, and got worried it's very common issue. Thanks, I'll get a cheap membrane and then send a rma request.

>>58748625
Okay thats good to hear.
I forgot to mention this before but one of the main reasons im doubting the ducky is that some anon mentioned that alt+ codes don't work on the ducky numpad. But i havent been able to confirm or bust that myth.

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>>58748948
Works fine for me

>>58748940
I had keychatter on my v80, but it was a firmware problem, so after I got that fixed by reflashing and the issue stopped. Some one explained to be that it was a problem with debounce times, but I don't know if that's true

>>58749025
I guess I will mail manufacturer first then.

>>58749000
Thanks for confirming that anon. I'll probably order the ducky once i get home.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-canvas-xda-custom-keycap-set

Anyone here use arrow keys a lot and have a tenkeyless or 60%?

I'm trying to come up with an ISO layout with all the keys I want, but the arrow keys ruin it all. I'm afraid to give up the arrow keys because I use them a lot and might even use the keyboard on mouseless devices.

>>58749472
Yes anon it is gay. Did you have any questions about it?

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>>58749478
Does it have to be 60%? It is possible to make a 60% keyboard with arrow keys and a number pad

>>58749478
just get a 65%, the best layout.

>>58749478
function layer
it's more comfortable than dedicated arrow keys anyway

>>58749783
Request it

>>58749784
by definition a "60% with num pad and arrow keys" isn't a 60%. 60% just means that it has 60% of the normal amount of keys.

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>>58749784
I ordered a standard layout keycap set. Plus, ISO involves the big Enter and the missing <> key by the left shift.

>>58749799
well, would you look at that. I'll have to check for keys that can replace the ansi shift, but this seems very nice.

>>58749810
Never used such a thing, might get in the way, although I wouldn't have to move my hand to the right to press arrow keys anymore.

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>>58749869
no I mean this

>>58749869
isn't 60% just a keyboard with a roughly 15*5 key matrix? it's perfectly possible to fit alphas, most mods, arrow keys and a numpad in there (generally with the number row replaced by a symbol row for [],./\'; to reduce the width of the alphas section)

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>>58749884
Just get a 68 key keyboard since that layout would fit perfectly

>>58749905
I actually like this. Not perfect though, I'd shrink left shift to 2u, put a 1u \| key next to /?, shrink right shift to 1u and possibly change it to Fn. That opens up the possibility of using the 1.5u key above enter as backspace or delete, with another useful system key put where del currently is.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ducky-abs-doubleshot-floating-keycap-set?referer=EW5MKZ

someone please buy these and put them on a floating cap board

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>>58749905
I guess that's technically a 60% but I don't really understand the appeal of modifying the layout so severely.

>>58749920
Yeah, I guess. It's a fucked layout though IMO. When he mentioned the board, I was thinking something like pic related but minus the function row, which is definitely not a 60% (but also not a fucked layout)

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Arrived with the mail just now.

I am nothing short of amazed of how good a keyboard can feel! :3

>>58749997
well you can build it yourself. The gh60 can come pretty close, but you'll have issues with right side

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>>58750048
>those windows keys

>>58750031
I just want as small as possible without numpad, with function keys and arrow keys. I think I'll go with the ISO 65%.

>>58748035
someone is really going to have to explain this one to me.

If they sell a cap set, or a flex kit, or a mod kit, it clearly says the manufacturer on the site.

If I buy CYMK from originative, it's still manufactured by GMK, so I can expect GMK quality right?

that being said, I never have purchased anything from them, I just dont get the meme. do they price gouge or something?

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>>58750031
That entire bottom row is a fucked layout.
Something like this uses a standard layout, but they just cut off the function row.

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>>58749478
I made this board a while back. The arrow keys are on a momentary function layer. [ is up, ; is left, ' is down, and \ is right. It's very intuitive to me. You can add a toggle fn layer and just put a numpad on right side somewhere. I did this on my gh60 board and it works fine but I never end up using it since I don't really use a numpad at home.

>>58750095
>do they price gouge or something
yes. most GMK sets sells for under $150, but these are always in the $180

>>58750102
Yeah, sure, but you know what I mean. It was just the only board I knew of off hand.

>>58750075
Like full ISO or just ISO enter? Because for the latter, finding a compatible key set is going to be significantly more difficult.

>>58750151
Full iso. Already ordered a cheap set from aliexpress. I think I'll have to replace shift with a windows key and some other shit like that, but I don't really give a fuck.

>>58750158
Aight, good luck, m8. Just keep in mind that the more you customize the layout, the harder it will be to find key caps, unless you don't give a fuck if the legends or profile is correct.

>>58750146
I guess to play devils advocate, would you not entertain the idea that paying 30 bucks extra is worth not having to wait for 5 months to get your keycaps?

I don't have an immense experience with GB's, I've only been a part of R1 Jukebox, R2 1976, Carbon SA, and GMK carbon.

However, from this experience I can tell you that I would gladly pay an extra 30 or even 50 USD to have it in a matter of weeks than months.

>>58750203
Except they are still a limited run and they sell out in a few days. What's the point if you still have to wait a couple years for one of their sets to come back in stock.

>>58750221
one could argue that having your money tied up from months without recieving a product, might make some uncomfortable, even with the constant production updates. I've only gone through Massdrop so far, but I can see how the more independently run GB's might seem a little more "risky" to some. even if you wait 3 months for originative to get the item in stock, you only send your payment once they have the item in hand, and it's shipped out with tracking (i assume with tracking) the next day or whatever.

again, just devils advocate.

so I'm retarded and have a question
sometime ago I bought this mechanical razer keyboard
>durr razer is shit
nah is pretty okay, my only grit with it is that it's a bit loud
it has razer's green switches, which I believe are blue cherries?
my question is, can I make them quieter with those dampening rings I've seen around the place or am I out of luck here

I would like to do a cheap hand wired keyboard 40% , will it be cheaper than if I buy a PCB?
And where can i get some parts.

>>58750285
there is the plank PCB which costs $40

>>58750285
Hand wiring is significantly cheaper than getting a one-off PCB made unless you can DIY a PCB.

>>58750269
Just sell it and buy another keyboard. No sense using switches you don't like.

>>58750269
yes you can :)
the bands wrap around the base of the stem, so there will still be a click, but thats part of the design. however, the bands will heavily dampen the sound of the keys hitting the actual board itself / bottoming out :)

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>>58750269
Those will help, but razer uses shitty keycaps and a floating design so they are some of the loudest keyboards out there

>>58750313
I don't really have the patience and money for that
it's not that I don't like them
I got used to the tactile feeling, and the keyboard is rather nice overall, I'd just like it to be a bit quieter
it's not really worth getting a new keyboard over tho

>>58750327
neato

>>58750329
I already have a razer keyboard, I was just wondering if those ring things would help me make it a bit quieter

>>58750343
O-rings only cost a buck and they'll help damped the noise. You'll still get the click since that's part of the actuating mechanism. You could try using lube to help dampen the sound even more, as well as thicker keycaps

>>58750378
alright, thanks for the tips

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Is coolermaster an ok brand for keyboards?

>>58750553
Yes. Some of their older keyboards have a non-standard layout on the bottom row, but if you're looking for the newer ones (MasterKeys), they have standard layouts, so you can easily change keycaps.

What a dead general. We might as well merge this with chink shit cause that's all what I see on here

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what keycap set is this?

>>58752326
Looks like generic SA keycaps

>>58752326
it says in your file name anon

geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=45655.0

>>58752010
Poorfags gonna poorfag.

Apple extended keyboard II replicas when?

>>58752588
>>58752010
I'll post my custom kb when the parts arrive. You'll be able to make fun of me as I fail to program the teensy or fuck up the solder process

>>58752784
A GH60 is still chink shit no mater how expensive the keycaps are

>>58752850
>an open source pcb design produced wherever you want in as hig quality as you want is now "chink shit"

>>58752870
Yes the original GH60 was much better, but now its imposible to get. Unless you paid for the original you got chink shit

>>58752989
>it is impossible to get a PCB made
wew lad

>>58753013
So you contracted a western company to make a PCB for you? If so that isn't chink shit, but why? Especially for such a shity design, wouldn't you want something more premium like the CR PCBs?

>>58740018
Best cheap mechanical keyboard with brown switches available in Canada?

>>58753118
Korean custom.

>>58753118
Kahiua

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>>58753114
>CR
what does that stand for?
what is wrong with pic related on falbatech?

>>58753140
Is that a brand?

>>58753161
At the bottom (top of this image) why do they drill multiple holes so close to eachother?

My keyboard PCB has the same thing, some are ovals some are partially joined circles. No other holes on the PCB are like that.

>>58753194
They make it so you can use different spacing on the bottom row depending on preference.

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What are some interesting DIY keyboard designs to read into?

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>>58742689

>>58745806
typematrix is comfy and noiseless for all intents and purposes, especially with the rubber cover. it's not mechanical; double scissor rubber dome switch

>>58746884
>>58746949

You're a cheap faggot, budget isn't high enough in rugby dollars.

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Just bought this Model M for 20 dollars, hope it works. Are there any ways to test it without a XT/AT or Soarers converter?

Its currently shipping

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>>58754654
Also do i need a Soarers or just a 5 PIN DIN to PS2?

Pic related

>>58754758
pic realted is fine, i built one from scratch using old cables a real one would be good

>>58754758
If its a terminal board you need Soarer's converter

Does anyone know where I can get hangul (korean) keycaps?

Can't find shit anywhere.

>>58755016
There are some high quality EnjoyPBT ones on Taobao: https://world.taobao.com/item/521491671138.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.sjUIdY#detail

>>58755050
No idea how I'll go about buying them but thanks for the hookup senpai.

>>58755144
You can try using an agent. Here's a link to a couple recommended ones from /csg/: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Chink_shit_general#Taobao_Agents

>>58744685
3 days ago. Sold it pretty damn quickly. You might be waiting a while for another stocking if they ever make any more. Best bet is to check r/mm for flippers

>>58745804
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid. It's a tenkeyless with MX Red. There's one left on Canadian Amazon for 98.99 shipped.

>>58746884
Just checked the NZ section on the shopping wiki on reddit.. there's a site called Playtech that sell lots of mechs, best I could find on there was the Ducky One. It's a tenkeyless with Cherry MX Blue (clicky, moderate actuation force). It's 129 dollars though. But it's a good starting point I think, if you can find it cheaper elsewhere or maybe add to your budget slightly.

>>58747069
Think you can get similar sets by EnjoyPBT on sites like TaoBao, AliExpress..

>>58747069
You can ask Gateron since they were the ones that made them

>>58750146
The worst part is living in Europe where GMK are based. We buy the set, it ships out of Europe to USA, gets sorted, then shipped back into Europe to end customer and has tax and customs duty added to it.

I wish there was a way for items to return back to the originating country within a certain time frame without incurring these charges, it'd make the group buys much more feasible for people outside the USA.

>>58755418
Why does it have 2 windows keys instead of a context menu key?

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Can anyone help me out here?

Just bought a BTC 5100C from ebay and the title does say it's a ps2 but it also says '6 pin' I'm hoping it's actually ps2 and not 6 pin DIN (full size) I get it's a shit image and you can barely see the connector but could anyone hazard a guess as to whether this is DIN6 full or PS2?

>>58753976
Here m8.

https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/designing-a-custom-topre-board-t11734.html

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did someone say model M

>>58755753
PS/2 has 6 pins. DIN has 5

Anyone know what switches have their tactile bump at the top of the switch?

>>58755840
Alps.

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>>58755796
There is 5 Pin DIN and 6 Pin DIN (full size)

>>58752989
What's wrong with the chink shit GH60?

>>58740187
huh, for some reason i always got the impression that you were a girl every time i see pics of your room/battlestion.

halp

>Budget
No limit, just don't wanna waste $ on gaymen memes
>Location (continent at least)
Southeast US
>Preferred switch type
Brown - I want quiet
>Layout
should i care?
>Form factor
TKL/Full
>Backlight
plsno
>Previous/current keyboards
Model M -- Too noisy and it's like wrestling a bear

>>58756850
Nothing is wrong with chink shit, its just there is too much of it posted on here

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>>58756922
Real force Hi-pro

>>58757089
Thank you sir.

What am I getting with that one that I wouldn't get from something like Das Keyboard?

>>58757358
Das uses chink switches. If you look at the previous threads two different anons had problems with keys no registering properly as well as keychatter issues. Topre on the other hand has no keychatter for 30 million presses compared to Cherry MX which is 0. Now the manufacturers will fix it if you rma the keyboard, but why go through all the hasle. You also wanted quiet and topre switches are quieter then any cherry switch. There are quieter switches like matias qc, but those are too wobbly imo. You don't have to get the Hipro as there are topre keyboards that range from 140-300 bucks

>>58757452
thanks anon

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>>58740654

No that's the absolute most efficient purchase in the keyboard community if you're looking for a quality product. The only better choice is used . Owned a few of em myself. I only have one left with gaterons but I have been wanting to pick up a used one for $40 on CL and put some zealios or tactile clears in if i can get a hold of some for cheaper.

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>4 model ms
>cant hang on to them all
>cant even hang onto the SSK
feels bad lads

>>58740654
>buying a quickfire rapid.
What a waste of money. Why didn't you get a gateron magicforce anon?

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>>58757973
This reminds me shouldn't those Hall Effect switch keyboards be shipping about now?

>>58758362
Gateron's as smoothe as Topre.
In the case of one of my HHKB's switches, even smoother than Topre. I lubed it but I'll probably have to re-lube it to get rid of the extremely scratchy feeling.
Too bad as I've used it for over two years so it's broken in.
>>58757452
>Topre on the other hand has no keychatter for 30 million presses
Topre bumped up their life cycle to 50 million presses with the Realforce RGB but I don't know if they increased the chatter rating. I would assume they did as Topre has no debouncing time.

>>58757973
The fuck?

My cherry reds are so smooth you can't even tell you are pressing them. What a shitty pic.

>>58758688
Have you even tried other switches?

>>58758688
well mine are scratchy as fuck. Heck one of the keys is so scratchy it makes squeaking noises when ever I press it.

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>>58758688
did you even look at them slider. If you think that's smooth then you must have arthritis

>>58758764
>gatfags will keep posting these cherrypicked images of shitty Cherry sliders as 'proof'

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>>58758774
I provided proof now go find an image that says otherwise

>>58758764
Is there a picture comparing those to Gateron switches? I'm curious about the difference between them.

>>58740369
The reset key is always turning on the beamspring

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>>58758813

>>58758847
That's perfect. Thanks anon.

>>58758774

I wonder if cherry cherry picks the switches. The higher end boards get the better switches and they sell off the ones that werent rejected but werent as good to cheaper keyboard manufacturers. All cherrys board have always had perfect switches (i dont know about the new lineup) and old cherry switches are as smooth at least as gaterons.

>>58758847
that looks like an old as fuck black, new production cherry normally have that little indent thing on the cross like the gateron one on the left

>>58758875
that would be irrelevant because most people say older MX-Blacks are superior to the new productions anyway

>>58758875
except older blacks are even smoother. That's why autists pay big bucks for them

>>58758707
Yes.

>>58758891
>>58758898
im also retarded and didn't notice the indent was just on the other side of the cross so good job me

disregard pls

Are there any options for switches that feel almost the same as blues but are silent?

>>58757973
What are the names of the switches on the bottom?

>>58758918
Matias Quiet Click I guess

It's pretty hard to keep that snap feeling of the click slider suddenly releasing and flying upwards without having it make noise from hitting the main slider desu because physics

>>58758918
No lol. Browns have a bump but nothing is going to feel like a click without sounding like a click.

>>58758918
Matias QC

North America:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=32&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

Yurope:
http://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&path=mechanical+keyboards&swi=Matias+Quiet+Click&ss=de&rtv=100

>>58758931
gateron

best cherry clones on the market, usually identified by their clear top shells

>>58758931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iz4ovUIWwQ&feature=youtu.be

>>58758949
So the clones are better than the original? Go figure...

>>58758764
Why the fuck would I dissemble my switches when they work fine?
They are from 2011 so maybe they are old enough before they shit up their manufacturing process.

>>58758931
Gateron
>>58758688
Gateron is smoother than MX Red, kind of how like MX red is smoother than MX Brown.

>>58758974
Cherry shit up their manufacturing process when they were acquired in 2008

>>58758983
Not mine. My reds are completely smooth. You don't feel anything until the key bottoms out. Again, my switches are from 2011 as well as being heavily used. If there was any texture or grain it would have sanded itself away due to use.

Were gateron's even produced in 2011? I remembered seeing threads when the switches were first discovered a while after I bought my keyboard.

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I'm currently using this Tomoko cheapo. It's my first mechanical and even though it has knock off switches it's orgasmic compared to a membrane keyboard. Problem is while I'm really liking these blue switches for just typing, it's not so good for gaming unless I'm wearing headphones.

Could o-rings help me with this? Would they make the switches as quiet as they are without the actual keycap on them? I have a Razer Orbweaver I got for cheap and without the caps on this keyboard makes about as much sound as that and it's perfect. I would just use that Orbweaver but honestly it's such a pain it have to always be rebinding keys per game on it due to the limited amount of them.

>>58759502
The sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuating mechanism. O-rings will help dampen it, but the floating design will still produce a lot of noise

>>58757973
how did you type QUOTESfamQUOTES?

>>58755788
hey, you're from /arg/! I browse there and /tpg/. What got you into mechanical keyboards?

(halfway expecting a classic /arg/ edgy comment)

What's the best value keyboard I can get for under $100? I'm in the USA and would use the keyboard for typing/ gayming.

I would be interested in cherry switches except blues.

>put o-rings on Zealios
>they sound almost like Topre
What a strange feeling. I can still hear spring sounds and ping on some keys, so they don't sound as good as Topre.

>>58760005
Lube the springs m8, should reduce if not kill the ping.

>>58760005
>ping
open them up and try to get it to work. i have a gateron kb and one switch had ping, i managed to get it to work properly. But a switch that costs over three times as much should really not have this issue. Don't buy zeal.

>>58760363
I think you're confusing ping with chattering.

>>58760574
No, the ping caused by the spring vibriting, that sound is horrible.

>>58760255
>>58760363
It's a Filco Majestouch 2, and it's not that noticeable, really. I've had worse from WASD V2 with clears. The spring sound bothers me more. Like some keys have this noticeable spring compression sound when you press them.

Outemu > Jixian?
Can anyone confirm?
I am trying to decide between the Motospeed CK104 and the Motospeed CK666/CK888.

Anyone has experience with Archiss keyboard line?
Seems like they are Japanese licensed rebranding of Leopold, but would Leopold 660M aluminium case fit Archiss retro tiny keyboard, or there is some PCB/mounting difference?

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Where does one buy a tenkeyless ducky with ISO in Europe?

>>58748221
this anon's back with another question.
Just found out the filco majestouch 2 is an option as well, its slightly more expensive then both other options though.
Filco is concidered a higher end product right ? Can anyone tell my why that is or if theres a real mayor difference between filco/leopold/ducky ?

Any thoughts on this one: http://www.gearbest.com/keyboards/pp_359130.html
I'm thinking of getting this + o-rings, but I'm a mkb noob.

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Mechanical keyboards just don't compare to the real thing. The model m is the closest but still nothing like the black beast.

>>58763224
If you are on a budget that's a fine keyboard though if you spend a little more 50$ish you can get better.

>>58763246
Uhhh try beam springs faggot.

Any TKL ISO keyboard recommendations with MX Blue / Clear / Green switches? PBT keycaps would be nice, I don't care about LEDs.

I've been using a Razer Blackwidow for nearly 2 years now but there is one thing that keeps bugging me. My G Key sometimes writes g two times while i just pressed once.
I have no idea what the difference of a mechanical keyboard or a normal one even is. Can someone please help a noob like me?

>>58763508
Sounds like a faulty switch, ghosting, or poor debouching in the firmware.
Given that it's Razer i wouldn't hesitate to call their firmware shit.

There are plenty of difference, the most obvious being the type and quality of the switches which changes how it feels to type on.

Are o-rings a meme? Found a bag of them for cheap on a chinkshit site and the reviews made me interested. Are they worth it?

Just copped a ducky shine 6. How bad did I screw up?

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>>58764402
what scope did you get with it?

>>58764355
Buying special o-rings made specifically for keyboards is a meme because of the price. You can go to the hardware store and get the same O-rings for $.10 instead of $15.00 or however much they sell them for.

>>58764495
Chink site has them for 3€. 150 rings per bags. And they're in the EU warehouse so i don't have to wait 60 days for the shipping.

>>58762093
Just google Ducky channel partners and pick whomever is closest to you. I know belgium has them

>>58764526
Or you could just go to the fucking hardware store and get them immediately for cheaper. You could even go to their website and check if they have the correct measurements...

Do you not have local hardware stores in EU?

>>58764561
>Do you not have local hardware stores in EU?

Not him, but here in Portugal there's only steelseries and razershit keyboards and probably no stores have any switches, o-rings or any mechanical keyboard related stuff. It's all gaymur shit.

>>58764561
And leave my house? No way hose.

>>58764604
Hardware as in hammers and drills. O-rings are literally just pipe seals.

>>58764689
No, it's a barren land with nothing but bakeries and fish stands

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Tomorrow I will get my printed caps

I'll make a hybrid hhkb with printed alphas and blank modifiers~

>>58764796
>rubbermemes

end thyself, m'lord

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>>58759814
for the memes

>>58765120
I did too. Thanks to this general I bought two memeboards

>>58759502
I'll probably make the actual jump from my meme gayming mech keyboard and get a good looking non gaymer keyboard with blue switches and then one of these razer smol gaymer keyboard for games, is it really worth it?
I'd sell my current keyboard, but I'd be spending like 250€ at the end.

My current keyboard has cherry red, which are great for games, but they make a very loud scratchy sound.

>>58766005
just get a magiforce with gaterons for under $50

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looks like Ducky is selling their ugly low profile keycaps on massdrop

>>58766043
OK, after some research there are a lot of 50~60€ of these.
Now, for the meme smol razer keyboard I found out that there are two versions, an orange and a green switch. Which one is the closest to a red switch?

>>58766147
Neither. Greens are closer to blues and orange is close to browns. Yellow is the one that's closest to reds

>>58766005
why would you use a specific keyboard for gaming? let alone some razer crap

>>58766068
Those look like ass. Pair them with one of those boards without a shroud around the switches for maximum garbage aesthetic.
>>58766204
He thinks razer are the only people making a tenkeyless board.

>>58766182
Well, I've tried brown from a friend and is really soft, which I don't like to play nor type at all.

>>58766204
Yeah, that's the idea, to have that smol meme on my far left and to move it a little or even leaving it there whenever I want to play, and that only on fps games, I guess.

Since I won't get anything until mid summer I'll try to build my own smol keyboard if I find it easy to do or just lurk on eBay for a really cheap smol.

>>58766259
Just get a Ducky One TKL. They've got plenty of features like programmable macros and per-key lighting if you get the RGB model. They also have much better build quality then whatever chink shit razer has to offer

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>>58766259
razer make the worst keyboards when it comes to quality per money spent.
there are tons of small keyboards that are in literally every way better than razer boards.

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>>58766204
Oh, and I meant this. Not that I'd type anything on this, just gayme.

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>>58766304
why not get a lefthand only ergodox or the left half of a lets split?

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>>58766304
that's one of the oldest gayming memes in the book, right next to dedicated macro pads

>>58766238
"maximum garbage aesthetic"
>stop liking what I don't like

>>58766325
Because the most important part of any gamepad is the stick at the thumb? It makes no fucking sense to WASD on a different keyboard and call it a gamepad.

>>58766480
it looks like shit tho, especially with that typeface

>>58766337
>right next to dedicated macro pads
Sure, ever heard of macros? You know, when you execute a set of instructions with a single button. Try assigning that to a single normal key, then try to chat in that game the same time. You'll be in for a surprise.

Dedicated macro keys that are not your normal keys, are the only correct way to use macros.

>>58766531
I never said anything bad about macros. I just said that dedicated macro pads are a meme since you get just set macros on your normal keyboard with no problem. I use a couple I bound to the number row

>>58766595
>are a meme
*for gayming*

>>58766068
Awful font. Awful profile. Looks thin and cheap too. I'm sure they will sell 100,000 units.

>>58766613
make a gaming layer on fully programmable keyboard with macros and relevant keys.

who's gonna start a new thread?

>>58767362
you when you find me a topre keyboard in an ISO layout that isn't jap shit.

>>58767485
topre is jap shit by defenition

>>58767513
then find me a gateron red board in ISO anon

onegai!

>>58767578
GH60

>>58767485
there are the sony news keyboards, but those have the same bottom row as corsair keyboards

how do I get used to ansi with blank keycaps

>>58767640
learn to touch type

keybr.com

>>58767667
I can touch type but all the symbols are some place else on this layout

>>58767696
then change them using windows

these zealios feel so good
and they're extremely silent too for some reason

Got my keys!
Please make new thread

>>58767837
New thread

>>58767983
>>58767983
>>58767983