Post glaring issues that Linux has >That fucking old outdated

>>58722095
What exactly is your issue with the permission system?

>>58722095
How should it work then?

>>58722123
chown is to difficult :'(

>>58722095
X, Alsa, Shit drivers

screen tearing
near deaf audio
wasted space by global/title bars
retarded UI design that hinders workflow
step away from Debian ecosystem and you are fucked

>>58722095
Are you the same guy who made that "why are git/ssh/gpg so difficult" thread?

>>58722125
ACLs so you don't have combinatorial explosion.

>>58722123
>>58722125
>Can't assign multiple users permissions to a dir without making a whole new group for it
>Permissions are extremely broad, can only define read write and execute whereas Windows can define read/write/create/delete/read-attributes and a bunch of other fine tuning options

>>58722189
using esoteric jargon doesn't make you smart.

explaining esoteric jargon makes you smart.

>>58722202
making a group is literally a single command

do you even root, bro?

>>58722202
You really should read the manual before attempting critique.

>Can't assign multiple users permissions to a dir without making a whole new group for it

man setfacl

>>58722202
>create/delete
Defined by the permissions of the parent directory.

>can only define read write and execute
There's also +t and +s.

>>58722231
>thinks having to manually create a new group for every folder that requires permission from more than 1 person is a good idea

>>58722095
>old outdated permission system
it's literally perfect
user, group, all
read, write, execute, setuid, setgid

there's access control list if you want to try something "new" but I don't know shit about it

>inb4 active directory
I really don't get the hype

>>58722262
>inb4 active directory
>I really don't get the hype
It's just a marketing-drone name for the combination of several technologies, like CIFS, DNS, Kerberos and Microsoft's deployment management mechanism ("Group Policies"), all of which have multiple open source equivalents.

>>58722217
Using jargon might not make me smart, but not knowing what technical terms mean and just using the word "esoteric" to rationalize make you dumb. And not asking nicely for an explanation (which is okay and no reason for embarrassment - no one is born knowing everything) and instead behaving like a faggot make you really dumb.

>>58722095
cant agree on a fucking packaging format.
upgrading your distro will likely fuck your shit up.
Also x.org is still default in most places.

>>58722174
>Debian
Apt based distros are already fucked m8. Fedora and Arch-based ones are thriving.

>>58722095
You have UAC turned off too eh?

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>>58722240
>Delete permissions can only be tuned to an entire directory

THE WORLD'S MOST ADVANCED OPERATING SYSTEM

>>58722292
>Also x.org is still default in most places
That I can concede. X11 is garbage.

However I already dread the flood of luddite manchildren who will complain about Wayland on /g/ 24/7 because their autism prevents them from learning new things, like systemd.

>>58722302
>Fedora
kek

>>58722314
Write permission implies deletion.
What's the point of protection against deletion but allowing writes?

>>58722314
>what is sticky bit
just stop

>>58722322
Name one bad thing about Fedora that isn't a neckbear meme or systemd (which is actually pretty fucking bad, but shared by Apt distros anyway)

>>58722338
>What's the point of protection against deletion but allowing writes?
actually there is, hence sticky bit

>>58722317
Systemd is actually a fine idea in theory. Unfortunately it's run by some of the most retarded, head-up-the-ass morons on the entire planet, second only to Gnome maintainers.

>>58722095
> Word Processor, Spreadsheet and Presentation Software that doesn't try to *poorly* imitate MS Office.

I'd rather have something much simpler, but if you're going to make a knock-off of something, you should be able to do better than LibreOffice.

>>58722202
>Can't assign multiple users permissions to a dir without making a whole new group for it.
There is nothing wrong with this, it works well enough and keeps things simple, anything else would get horrifically complicated horrifically fast. See the windows file system.

>Permissions are extremely broad, can only define read write and execute whereas Windows can define read/write/create/delete/read-attributes and a bunch of other fine tuning options
>Criticises Unix file system.
>Exonerates the windows file system.
>Claims to not be retarded.
The windows file system, like the rest of the operating system, is a clusterfuck of note. It was as if it was designed by a group of people who didn't quite know what they wanted to achieve or how to achieve it or how it would be useful but wanted whatever that was to be extremely specific beyond all use. It's a brilliant example of what I like to call bad abstraction, hiding the inner workings of a simple system using a more complicated one. It's like a bunch of engineers got drunk at a meeting and just wrote down a list of whatever attribute they felt like at the time without considering what they were doing or the consequences.

>>58722390
>It's almost like Red Hat is sabotaging the whole Linux ecosystem.
These jews alongside the fat commie (RMS) that is contantly pushing for degeneracy and (((diversity))) will kill Linux as a whole.
Hope Linus realizes this and manages to for what he can and start fresh.

>>58722338

Because if a user renames a file on a network, he ruins links to that file to everybody else in the network.

>this is why nobody uses linux on a corporate network

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>>58722095
I honestly don't understand the permission system. Why is there even option menu like this if I need to actually chmod the shit through terminal to change the settings

>>58722424
>nobody uses linux on a corporate network
Factually wrong.

Google actually kicked Windows to the curb. Most employees use macOS and GNU/Linux.

Peugeot runs several thousand Linux workstations.

>>58722408
I once tried using Libreoffice Impress to make a powerpoint presentation. Now I need regular dialysis treatment.

>>58722422
I wouldn't even care that much for them spreading systemcancer if they actually at least had decency to, I dunno, fix it? But noooo let's Wontfix everything that's too much work in our bugzilla, that's a much better solution!

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>>58722338
>What's the point of protection against deletion but allowing writes?

HOLY FUCK

LINUXSHITS ARE THIS CLUELESS

>>58722412
>All this empty statement

Try making an argument for your own OS instead of just bashing Windows

>>58722452
Nice two examples, the rest of the world runs Windows though.

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>>58722095
>Post glaring issues that Linux has
Okay :D

>>58722483
Another universal claim that can be proved wrong with merely one counter-example.
You should aim for fewer generalizations.

>>58722095
multi-user system...clearly insecure by default.

>>58722498
>linguistic pendantism
Heh... you guys know you can't win the market share argument, so you appeal to this shit. Which goes to show your obnoxious personality: yet another reason nobody uses Linux, because using it involves interacting with these fat irritating NEETs everytime you have a question about it.

>>58722464
>>What's the point of protection against deletion but allowing writes?
>HOLY FUCK
>LINUXSHITS ARE THIS CLUELESS

Shred /10.0.0.1/FolderOfImportance/FileOfImportance.imp

>Not deleted

>>58722095
GNU end user applications ... with no alternative.

>>58722533
>linguistic pendantism
>t. illiterate sub 60 IQ street shitter.

>>58722559
>I'm so insecure about myself I have to try to assert my self-proclaimed intellectual superiority oveyou in order to feel alright
How old are you, 17?

>>58722356
Half baked Python written package managers.
E.g. yum/dnf

Arch is in a class of its own with how shit it is. Hello it's package manager doesn't even support basic shit like glob stars and has the most convoluted, meaningless argument arrays.

It doesn't help that arch repos are low quality garbageware full of improperly licensed software and no segregation of nonfree and free software.

>>58722440
>how do i run the file manager as root?????????????????????

>>58722189
All major Linux filesystems have ACL and rich ACL support you dipshit

>>58722585

Try a little lower...

>>58722609
fglt told me to not fucking do that or I fuck my shit up

so I used chmod to change the rights

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>>58722609
>you have to run an entire buggy piece of crap as root, risking to compromise your entire system, just to change a user permission, because your operating system is such a piece of pathetic tryhard shitware it can't even do pic related

>>58722598
>Half baked Python written package managers
They do their job well, they aren't buggy, are simple to use and are reasonably fast.
>using glob stars in a fucking package manager
For what purpose
>convoluted argument arrays
Literally just use the fucking alias function if you're this autistic

>>58722174
>retarded ui design that hinders workflow

Like the Gui? If you have a problem with the gui that's like the easiest thing to customize.

>>58722683
Yeah let me learn like 20 extra code languages and rewrite the source on half my system so I can have a consistent GUI

>>58722654
>visudo

>>58722095
not sure if it's just my computer or ubuntu, when i move large files like 4 gigs to a usb drive, the copying speed starts high around 50mbs or more down to less than mb transfer speed and freezes the whole system, like what the fresh

>>58722708
>implying windows has a consistent GUI

>>58722753
Pretty much every application packed with Windows (well, before 10 obviously) has a consistent GUI.

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>>58722725
>text interface

>>58722808
So I take it that you've never used regedit before?

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>>58722708
sudo apt-get install [desired gui].

then go into the gui based menu and customize it to your pleasing.

Stick to windows. Here's ubuntu on my laptop I use for CS at uni. The only coding was some bash scripting for the conky on the right side. Not that hard to completely change the look and feel.

>>58722664
Not really. Yum made it very scary to use pip sometimes because installation of the latest pycurl would destroy yum, for example.

It's also much slower than the new apt tool

There have been numerous new bugs for the latest fedora release of dnf that would cause all kinds of dependency hell.

Also globs are nice because then you could remove all packages with the name like gstreamer by doing pacman -R gst-*
But instead, because pacman is shit tier software written by skids, you have to make a convoluted shell pipeline to accomplish the same task.

>>58722095
No proper system-wide equalizer.

Don't say pulseaudio-equalizer. Have you used that buggy monstrosity?

>>58722095
>glaring issues that Linux has

Butthurt microsoft faggots shitting up tech boards with their butthurt.

>>58722823
apt-get is deprecated, use apt

>>58722095
my fucking printer (cheap Samsung shit) still doesn't work

>>58722826
pulseaudio is so bad, the main volume slider doesn't work, programs randomly choose what output they use, i have to keep the actual menu with processes open at all times

>>58722095
>doesn't spy on you
>doesn't let other programs execute on your sovereign hard drive, you racist bigot
>doesn't run gay men, you cis-shit homophobe
>is old and gross
>written by men
>sometimes doesn't have a GUI. Its THE CURRENT YEAR, why is TUI even still a thing?
>expects you to compile things yourself, whatever compile means
>has a fucking old outdated permission system

>>58722095
>Glaring issues that Linux has
The Gnu and Linux logos. That is all.

>>58722863
Pulse audio is a software mixer. What the fuck do you want it to do if your shitty software bypasses it and uses alsa/hardware directly?

>>58722871
/g/ could fix that easlly

>>58722826
>>58722863
do y'all even into alsamixer?

>>58722880
I didn't know Firefox and MPV are shitty, what are better alternatives

>>58722864
>you cis-shit homophobe
coming from the sjwd gnu/linux community, thats golden.

>>58722916
oh wow look everybody semantics

>>58722174
>X, Alsa, Shit drivers
Works on My Machine (TM)
>screen tearing
Works on My Machine (TM)
>near deaf audio
Works on My Machine (TM)
>wasted space by global/title bars
inquisitiveanimegirl.webp
>retarded UI design that hinders workflow
Works on My Machine (TM)
>step away from Debian ecosystem and you are fucked
Then use the Debian ecosystem?

>>58722533
>linguistic pendantism
literal idiot

>>58722864
>a real person posted this thinking it was funny

>>58722095
>literally the only bird that cannot fly
>there are gay penguins
>the penguin is fat
>Ubuntu is still the best (baka)

Damage Control: The thread

>>58724352
>literally the only bird that cannot fly
Neo /g/ shows the symptoms of horrible education systems. Our future is doomed.

>>58724625
Dolphins can swim better than penguins and also look cooler.

Also dolphins can communicate with bats.

>>58722095
Post this shit to HN.

>>58722654
>you click this button and windows spawns a superuser only graphical desktop that no other piece of software has access to for the purpose of you clicking a button and it's so graphically intense you have to turn this shitty piece of 'security' off so that some of your older computers remain usable and don't go up in flames

>>58722781
Well, every application packed with a base linux system does too.
It's text based and you can't get much more consistent than that.

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>>58722095
X is outdated and bloated, but slowly Wayland is replacing it

Audio is a fucking mess. Pic related, its the audio stack on Ubuntu

Dependency issues. Many package managers fix dependency hell but the fact that libraries don't have to be packaged with the program make a lot of programs force you to track down some 10 year old library

That's 3 main reasons that are fucking nothing compared to how many glaring issues Windows has

>>58725646
>X is outdated and bloated, but slowly Wayland is replacing it
total meme

X is great, it made porting super easy. Shit even runs on Windows nowadays, MacOs since a long time, BSD as well

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>>58725697
>Over 2 decades of legacy code
>Screen tearing
>Uses the most memory and CPU on most systems than any other program

>file picker doesn't have thumbnails

ITT autistic screeching

>>58725805
You will be beaten soon enough if you proceed doing that.

What do you think is the reason for X's CPU Usage?

>>58725834
Lots of legacy shit thats still being supported since X is outdated to the core

Wayland only does worse than X in fullscreen shit because it still needs to fix some driver support

But other than that its much faster than X

>>58725884
How much less CPU does the Wayland use?

>>58725896
I can't find any exact graphs, but the page on how Wayland handles rendering VS X shows how much CPU and memory it saves
https://wayland.freedesktop.org/architecture.html

>>58725947
No it doesn't and I won't read all that shit.

I don't believe you, liar.

Where is the evidence that Wayland will use less CPU/GPU than X? If both render shit, both have to calculate. The math is the same.

Wayland is just some lennart potterhead memery

>>58726015
You don't even have to read nigger. There's graphics on the page so you can just look at those

X windows have to send their data to X server who then sends it to the compositor who then sends it back to the X server who sends it to the kernel

Wayland windows send their data to the Wayland compositor who then sends it to the kernel

Much less math involved because Wayland has streamlined the proccess

Its not that hard to understand nigger

>>58722095
There is SELinux or RBAC if you want the best fine grained permission systems, only noobs can't into SELinux.
The rest works fine for me, i believe the major distros will have most things sorted out of the box but long time ago since i used a mainstream distro.

>>58722095
>Post glaring issues that Linux has
>>58722130
>>58722123
>>58722202
Use ACLs for fuck's sake.

>>58726069
For me there is no performance graph.

Steps have nothing to do with speed, so I still do not believe your lies.

Computers have more layers than ever in the history of computing, yet we have the fastest computers today and not when we had less steps and abstraction layers.

>>58726090
Am I a noob for saying $€Linux?

>>58725805
>>Uses the most memory and CPU on most systems than any other program
What? Firefox laughs at you and your naive opinions.

>>58726121
>Computers have more layers than ever in the history of computing, yet we have the fastest computers today and not when we had less steps and abstraction layers.

Webdev tier logic, anon

X was made for not having multiple monitors and shittons of windows open
Only many terrible layers of abstraction have made those possible at the cost of performance

Are / and /swap all one really needs nowadays for installs?

>>58726320
I haven't configured swap since 2009.

>>58726320
Depends if you want extra security & the easy way of reinstalling an OS without losing /home or /opt for example.

>>58726276
I don't see any issues whatsoever. Every Linux, even the slow ones like Unity or KDE are super quick when it comes to UI rendering.

>>58726378
I didn't ever say X was slow. Its just a resource hog
Wayland has (will have) the same speed as X without the screen tearing while using less resources

>>58722464
Could you not have thought of a better insult?

>>58726403
You didn't say what part of X requires so many resources and why it does so.

I do not support the fix what is not broken movement of the americans lately.

>>58726426
Holy shit you can't read can you?
The X server is the resource hog

>>58726520
How can it "hog resources" when all it does is just transfer the graphics from the i.e. jpeg decoder to the graphics chip?

What's there to hog?

How can it hog resources when you can install latest Linux distros on the most shitty laptops and still enjoy quick UIs? Have you ever tried Windows with Aero or a Mac since darwin? That's what you could call a resource hog. But not X.

>>58726569
>How can it "hog resources" when all it does is just transfer the graphics from the i.e. jpeg decoder to the graphics chip?

See >>58726069

X goes though many more layers to render a single window

>>58722095
SystemD is currently the most glaring issue it has.

>>58722533
>market share
Just check which kernel Android is running.
Also, webservers nearly all run BSD or Linux, Microsoft can't even get their Bing Search Engine to run on MS server, oh don't forget about what most professional tech and science companies are running.

BTFO

>>58722095
use the best tool for the job, i love linux for most things, the only thing Linux sucks at for me is SDR radio software, GQRX is okay but only supports a few radios, and does not have much for filtering and NO notch filter pisses me off

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>linux

>>58722095

Linux doesn't have good driver support because it's unpopular. Linux is unpopular from its bad driver support.

Nobody has monetary motivation to make it better

Too many cooks spoil the broth

>>58722621
you need to leave.

It's not Windows 10.

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>>58729821
>Linux doesn't have good driver support

>>58729968
The year of the Linux Desktop, bitches

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Unix permissions are literally all you ever need and they are much easier to manage on the fly. ACLs are for CIA niggers.

All these issues
>I don't know how to do that in linux

>>58731827
> are literally all you ever need
Not really. Sometimes you want to set the specific owner for a freshly created files in a folder, or have them created with a specific umask.

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>>58731918
That's when you use the power of the command line to input multiple commands. Advanced power users sometimes use wizardlike "scripts" as they are called to accomplish two commands or even more by typing only one thing.

Amazing.

>>58722095
X, mostly.

It's a security hole.

>>58722174
Gnu/Linux has 3 times more drivers than every version of windows combined. Windows 7 doesn't have USB3, network card from start + it doesn't have good drivers for logitech marble mouse and amd card drivers are botnet source. Meanwhile on Gentoo you have everything from start + you have choose of excelent radeon drivers or botnet ati-drivers (they are marked as deprecated now).
>>58722808
>>58728532
>posting nigger as argument
>>58725646
Meanwhile you don't even know how windows audio stack looks. You don't need gstreamer, jack, clanlib, allegro, xine, (((phonon))), arts, pulseaudio to having sound, I don't even what it is.
>>58724644
No, same frequency !=same language.

>The "people" that use it

>>58732294
Okay, then they need Google translate, so what?

Anyway, dolphins can pose as sharks.

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>>58732294
>to having sound
Oh Pajeet, you just can't fucking help but type in such a manner as to communicate your poo nature...

>>58722174
can't customize ui. maybe computers aren't for you.

>>58732161
> input multiple commands
Nah, mate, that's exactly what I do: type commands and automate things because devs aren't going to do so.

>>58725805
>Uses the most memory and CPU on most systems than any other program

So this is the power of the /g/

>>58722202
Great level of autism there.

>>58722095

> screen tearing
> Xorg
> general 'janky' feeling in most desktop environments
> general sense that no-one is testing this stuff before it hits production
> Fragmentation, no-one has the good sense to pile on to one project, everyone's a snowflake with their own shitty half-implementation of every idea

>>58722174
> criticizes THE UI
as if there was a linux UI. Are you retarded? You know there are like a million different UI's and you can chose whichever you like? You can make it look like wincuck or applesauce if you like

>>58722440
Oh no, why do I have to use this filemanager? If only I could change it for another one.
OR
Why the fuck don't you learn the terminal??!

>>58725646
It's literally pulseaudio -> ALSA -> device nowadays.
If a software still needs GStreamer, it just goes directly to ALSA.

>>58733333
cuck!

been using since 2008, the one thing that didn't go away is the touchpad issues, windows just werks in that regard

>>58732294
Windows 7 was released in 2009
Usb 3 for consumers was released in 2010

>>58722616
No, ACLs on Linux are dogshit compared to Windows.

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>>58724644
>Also dolphins can communicate with bats.

I laughed way too hard at this. Thanks, anon.

>>58722095
its practically unusable by all points of view?
I cant even install most of those shits on my old computers, cuz of some arcane errors (but they are happy for having no blue screen, u just cant install the OS at all).
Its just fucking useless for work. No software runs on it well.

>>58726320
you only need /

linux hate thread general when?

>>58733897
Give me your arcane errors and I'll tell you what to do.
Give me your software and I'll tell you how to run it or use an alternative.

>>58733916
Sry, but noone got weeks to fix up fken linux. :)
Got computer to do my work, not to fix it when its broken.
I get it that NEETs can play with it.
Had posted some of that shit on arch forums back in the day when I had time to fuck with shits.

>>58722202

>Can't assign multiple users permission to a dir without making a whole new group for it

This works well enough in 95% of cases. If it's not covering your need, use ACLs which are widely available.

>Permissions are extremely broad, can only define read write and execute whereas Windows can define read/write/create/delete/read-attributes and a bunch of other fine tuning options

Except this is already there. On individual files, read/write/execute are exactly what they sound like. On a directory, "read" means access to the file listing, "write" means creating/deleting/renaming files and "execute" means operating on the files (including its attributes), setting the directory as the working directory. The gotcha here is that to create/delete/rename files you also need the execute bit set (implicit modification of attributes).

So tl;dr you have the granularity you want. If it's not good enough, use an ACL.

>>58722202
>>58734052

Directory permissions provide quite a bit of granularity. To demonstrate:

$ mkdir t2
$ chmod 700 t2    # rwx permissions
$ touch t2/test   # thus can create files
$ chmod 400 t2    # r-- permissions, can only list files
$ touch t2/test2  # can't create files
touch: cannot touch 't2/test2': Permission denied
$ ls -al t2       # also can't get attributes of files (which is the permission denied and question marks), but can see them
ls: cannot access 't2/test': Permission denied
ls: cannot access 't2/.': Permission denied
ls: cannot access 't2/..': Permission denied
total 0
d????????? ? ? ? ?            ? .
d????????? ? ? ? ?            ? ..
-????????? ? ? ? ?            ? test
$ chmod 100 t2    # set execute permissions, can operate on files
$ echo "faggot" > t2/test
$ cat t2/test     # writing was successful
faggot
$ ls -al t2       # but can't list because read bits not set
ls: cannot open directory 't2': Permission denied
$ touch t2/test2  # also can't create because write bits not set
touch: cannot touch 't2/test2': Permission denied
$ chmod 300 t2    # -wx permissions, can create and delete (thus also rename) and modify files and attributes
$ touch t2/test2  # successful creation
$ ls -al t2       # but cannot read
ls: cannot open directory 't2': Permission denied
$ echo "test2" > t2/test2
$ cat t2/test2    # writing successful again, because execute bit was set
test2
$ chmod 500 t2    # read and execute
$ ls -al t2       # can get file list (read bits) and attributes (execute bit)
total 120
dr-x------   2 user group   4096 Jan 31 13:29 .
drwx------ 143 user group 106496 Jan 31 13:28 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 user group      7 Jan 31 13:27 test
-rw-r--r--   1 user group      6 Jan 31 13:29 test2
$ touch t2/test3  # but cannot create files
touch: cannot touch 't2/test3': Permission denied
$ echo "faggot" > t2/test2
$ cat t2/test2    # however can read and write to file
faggot

>>58734143
>>58734052
>>58722095

By the way, I didn't touch upon the sticky bit in this case, nor individual file permissions. Just saying, the UNIX permissions system provides a lot of granularity. It's not outdated, but if it doesn't fit your use case, go for an ACL.

>firefox gtk file picker
>breaks way too easily

I like how on windows you can install drivers over drivers and it won't fuck up display

Few days ago I installed KDE on arch install in VM. I get black screen on login and i didn't feel like wasting hours on fixing it.

>>58733967
>arch

>>58732722
That's when you use the power of the command line to input multiple commands. Advanced power users sometimes use wizardlike "scripts" as they are called to accomplish two commands or even more by typing only one thing.

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>>58722095
The ONLY thing that has stopped me from fully moving to Linux is the fact that EVERY SINGLE DISTRO has the same problem, where if you press the caps lock button on then off, it lingers for a very short while.

E.g. if I were to press caps lock to write something then turn it off and continue writing, the first one or two letters or my next word will be capitalised. You need to have a atleast a semi-decent WPM to actually have this occur though.

>>58733967
1 poo has been deposited in your loo

>>58725569
>Well, every application packed with a base linux system does too.
Almost every CLI partition manager says you're wrong. Also the syntax is all over the place when you consider things like dd

GNU/Linux is perfect as a headless OS. But, as soon as you install xorg and boot up a GUI, you may aswell class your entire system as compromised.

Xserver contains such huge security vulnerabilities that I wonder why any of you use it for your daily OS, Wayland are taking steps to counter this but it is taking a long time.

If you want a security focused OS, use Windows. I am well aware that MS collect data about you and GNU/Linux doesn't. BUT the data MS collects is nothing compared to what literally anyone can take from your GNU/Linux system running GUI over xserver.

>>58722095
>try to install ndivia drivers for my GTX970 on Linux Mint
>tried like 10 different versions, none of them work

welp, I guess I'll just stick to Windows 8.1

>>58722095
>bloat
>monolithic kernel
>useless shit in kernel
>no good UI for it
>trading some perfectly good sound system to some kernel-integrated anti-unix abortion

>>58737054
Prove it faggot

>>58722286
That is what esoteric means, faggot.

>>58722095
Most of my problems have been related to X.

>compositing window managers run at the lowest refresh rate of a multi monitor setup
>no per monitor DPI settings
>there's always a chance that X breaks when installing/updating proprietary GPU drivers

>>58722095

Biggest problem is and always will be it's autistic, repellent userbase.

>>58722095
Having to install software from the terminal
Being so poorly optimised when you dual boot it with Windows

>>58722654
You were literally just saying how running desktop applications as root compromises your entire system, and now you're complaining that you can't do that in Linux (even though you can very easily with gksu)

>>58734242
did you install the meta packages or did you try to do some autistic minimal install?

>>58737607
>there's always a chance that X breaks when installing/updating proprietary GPU drivers
Why wouldn't you just use dkms?

>>58722174
>wasted space by global/title bars

Just make a keyboard-shortcut to toggle window-decorations on/off. It's easy when you're running loonix.

Add this shit:

    <keybind key="W-d">
      <action name="ToggleDecorations"/>
    </keybind>

to your ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml

Oh, and make sure your WM is openbox - it's the only usable one.

>>58739160
desu I dont know why other de's and wm's won't implement this