Why does old technology look cooler than new technology?

>>58694348
Because computers used to be a luxury tool. Useful, but luxury.

>>58694348
>Implying new technology doesn't look cool

>>58694553
It doesn't. Maybe macs and thinkpads do but that's it.

>>58694348
Because old technology was and still is cooler than new technology. Back then it was a luxury (as another anon has stated) and when we had it the feeling was just fucking amazing. Today, we've gotten so entitled to technology that we don't even appreciate what we have.

>>58694348
Because it is foreign to you who did not live with it. Anyone who can remember CRTs and the weak machines of the past will look on them only for how far we've come.

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Apple products also didn't look gay.

>>58694595
Kek. I knew you would mention Apple, but not in that way.
ThinkPad are an old in design though.

I don't know what's wrong with you guys, but you need to take your head out of your consumer ass.

>>58694348
I think industrial design and minimalism look better than the stupid window cases and LEDs we have now, but as computers became more mainstream, idiots who like dickwaving contests started buying them too, and then all bets were off.

Having a black computer was my life dream in the 90's.

I didn't get a computer of my own until like 2005 and it was a shitty dell that died within a year.

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It really doesn't. You just didn't have to grow up with them. They took up a huge amount of space, CRTs rape your eyes and the white looks like shit after some years. Thin displays and svelte silverish and black hardware is superior but you're used to it so you pine for a time where you were probably not even born. Also in some time, people will look back at our hardware and marvel at it.

>>58694618
>rainbow colored logo
>didn't look gay

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>>58694348

Because it had that future aesthetic to it. Now everything lacks that look because everyone uses tech so it's strictly utilitarian.

>>58694694
>CRTs rape your eyes and the white looks like shit after some years
This is not true for everyone. Much like the audiophiles who claim rocks on their cables make the digital sound crystal clear.

>>58694611
>>58694694
you guys realize that the OP is talking about aesthetics, and not the underlying technology.... right?

>>58694744
is that a fucking digital display made using tungsten elements?

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>>58694782

Not sure what the elements are made of, but it uses high voltage to excite neon gas around the elements. Nixie tubes, VFDs, and anything that lights up is pretty much my autism trigger.

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>mobile technology as powerful and efficient as never before
>no one makes UMPCs anymore

The irony.

>>58694906
They're called tablets now

>>58694722
The rainbow was more associated with drug use and hippies rather than homos in those days anyway.

>>58694906
sorry hackerman :^(

>>58694931
No this was the 80's, Rainbows were still the low-profile gay flag before it was so ubiquitous

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>>58694348
1/2

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>>58694348
And 2/2
THE FUTURE IS NOW

>>58694986
>>58695006
top kek

>>58694722
>>58694931
>>58694942

I heard they used the gay color as a gesture of respect to Alan Turing.

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>>58694595
The former looks like shit and the latter looks like shit now.

> I think industrial design and minimalism look better than the stupid window cases and LEDs we have now
>>> industrial design
>>>>> minimalism
Nice buzzwords. You're saying that like it doesn't exist.

PROTIP: It looks even worse.

Pic related is so much more beautiful.

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indisputably the best design of all time

>>58695071
>internet explorer
At least it's not netscape

>>58694668
most of these kids dont remember when EVERY computer was a beige box, every single one of them

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>>58694348
You didn't buy a computer back then expecting to throw it in the trash 2 years later, and they were already expensive, so paying a little more for a nicely designed and well cared for system wasn't as big a deal. The expectations were simply different.

But I'm also convinced it was simply marketed better, computers used to be worthy of being considered a focal point and had a lot of nice marketing material and photos to back it up, now they're just like your washing machine but for Facebook.

>>58695104
Very true.

>>58694348
There's more to look at

>>58694611
>Anyone who can remember CRTs
>how far we've come.
about 70% of the way to catching up to CRT?

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It may be more cost-effective and probably easier to cool now but sometimes I wish supercomputers didn't turn into just a bunch of boring commodity-looking boxes in standard racks with a big ugly stickers placed over them (if they're lucky)

>>58695161
What is it like 400% the power of LCD? And 800% of the space of LCD?
With LCDs having up to 300% resolution capability?
I can handle 30% grayer blacks

>>58694837
>tfw you will never have a digital dashboard car with VFD's

>>58695171
Would you rather they just throw their internals on the ground?
People running these servers don't give half a shit what they look like, as long as what they're selling is marketable

>>58695197
I like my CRT but I'm so concerned with burn in it just sits on a shelf unused

>>58695161
>>58695197
yea
CRT when it fell out of favor had 70+ years of R&D improving it. LCD hasnt had that long yet, when it does LCD will surpass CRT in everyway.

>>58695171
The people who run these on the other hand don't care whatsoever about their PC aesthetic

>>58694611
I hate the "look at how far we've come" meme, the only people who masturbate to that are those who don't really understand technology and just think of it as egghead magic. Modern stuff isn't much of an achievement, really, and ultimately not all that different from stuff we already knew how to do decades ago. It's all just steady, incremental advancement on the past.

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>>58694348

It's because you have a need to feel like a special snowflake which prevents you from enjoying the current designs.

>can't like what is mainstream

>>58695245
>learning and applying knowledge isn't impressive because I don't think it's quick enough
You should be a teacher

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>>58694595
Take HIFI equipment for example, everything looks fucking boring these days.

>>58694348
it fucking well doesn't you "nostalgic" faggot

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>>58695214
>>58695241
They're a dick-waving asset for whoever owns them as much as a tool for getting work done. There's no harm in taking some pride in your work.

>Would you rather they just throw their internals on the ground?
What do you even mean by that? That's pretty much what you do when you get a new supercomputer, why would you want any old, shitty and inefficient hardware in something like that? The racks themselves aren't worth dick.

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>>58695312
>buying prebuilt supercomputers

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>>58694348
Because aesthetics passes through a cycle as time goes on.
A 'style' as in the style of the time, technology clothes, hair, etc. goes in a loop
beautiful, pretty, kitch, ugly, beautiful...

Pic related is somewhere between kitchy and ugly right now but someday may be (or part of it may be) a beautiful aesthetic again.

Old looks better than new, right now, because the new beautiful thing hasn't come out yet - industrial designers are waiting for the new apple.

>>58695312
Taking pride in your work means doing your work, not taking photos of your server room that nobody actually goes into when it's running properly

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>>58695334
You don't really think all of those Crays and Blue Genes on the TOP500 were actually designed and built by the institutions running them, do you? Nobody wastes their time with that shit anymore, those Chinese systems are outliers.

>>58695355
No, doing your work is just doing your work.
Why are you so upset about the idea of something looking nice?

>>58695245
You got ruined on /k/, don't start with your shit here.

>>58695296
???
It's plenty quick, I don't know how you concluded otherwise. Any retard can "learn and apply knowledge" though so I don't know what you're doing jerking off to that basic facet of human existence either. I'm learning and applying my knowledge of your faggotry right now, for example.

In the end we're still implementing the same fundamental concepts in hardware to run the same fundamental algorithms in software to accomplish tackle many of the same fundamental problems we've been using computers to solve for decades, just at a faster rate of execution. Is that really mind-blowing? Not really. And no, I'm not complaining about it either.

>>58695589
I don't post on /k/. I just find it to be a triggering pop-science tier mindset and just plain disrespectful to the amazing engineering achievements of the past.

>>58694986
It's a cube which is cool, but it gets all the details wrong, and that's the difference.

For starters it needs to ditch that stupid indented lip rim. More symmetry wouldn't hurt it, and there's gotta be a way to make that side vent not look like ass.

I think that's really the issue; because computers are a commodity most companies don't put the same levels of cash, energy, and attention to detail into design. That's a real shame, because manufacturing has come a long way since the 80s and we can do things on a mass scale that'd be pure fantasy for the industrial designers of the 80s.

>>58694348
the "make everything as thin as possible" meme was not a thing yet

>>58695198

Holy shit how did you know my next car project?

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>>58695080
it was the only major native browser on OS X until Mozilla (now known as Seamonkey) got ported, but that ran horribly under OS X so mac people just ran IE Mac Edition until Firefox became a thing and Apple introduced Safari. It really wasn't a bad browser; its engine was completely separate from the shitshow Trident used by its Windows counterpart, supporting modern CSS and PNG transparency ages before Windows IE did.

A neat feature it had was the ability to change the skin's accent color to match your gumdrop iMac.

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Why can't modern cases look cool like this?

>>58696274
Because it is important that they're black like my soul and have several vents for radiators and a side panel window.

>>58696274
Lian-li and silverstone occasional put out stuff like that

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this is over 15 years old

>>58696274
I wish they would, that style has potential nowadays and could be pretty easily "modernized" without losing much of its charm.

>>58694348
Who here, besides me, ever actually used a NeXT workstation? My university's CS department had some in the '90s.

The machines looked awesome. The OS did look pretty cool. Guess how much difference all that made to you completing your courses/degree? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing.

>>58694667
You know what really brought all that tacky shit in? The introduction of computing to the masses. These days the computer case is the Jeepney of the chink or poo.

>>58695116
God damn this looks sexy as fuck

>>58696987
>this is over 15 years old
still looks better than any PC today

>>58694694
>CRTs rape your eyes
wrong
>the white [plastic] looks like shit after some years
lol I thought they just made them off-white

>>58696274
Sauce on this? Does it have a name?

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>>58699068
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolics

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>>58696987
Why can't workstations look that cool again?

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>>58699134
They still do, they're just shittily marketed and don't have a big following talking them up all the time.

>>58699134
Because Sun has copyrighted that look and feel.

>>58699203
that's cos the sales drones do not know how to market them. nor does the marketing department.

still with opensolaris, fuck the box.

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>>58694348
They're still not that far off from being scientific instruments. Tech today looks like it's marketed to faggots.

>>58694744
>strictly utilitarian
if only. if tech design was strictly utilitarian nobody would care for aesthetics and the donglebook wouldn't stand a chance on the market. design today is pretty much the opposite of utilitarian.

>>58699203
That doesn't look good though.

>>58695334
wanna know how I know you're fat?

>>58696987
this looked classy and was extremely functional. judging by modern apple products, steve jobs must be rotating in his grave.

>>58699203
>"they still do"
>posts more than 10 year old photo
top kok

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>>58699220
Yeah, they really don't.

>>58699295
Sure it does, it's a very professional, tool-like aesthetic with a nice looking interior as well. It's all subjective in the end, but I have a feeling you wouldn't feel that way if it was associated with a more exotic brand or platform.

I do hate that serif Z800 logo though.

>>58699334
The general design hasn't changed that much and I couldn't be bothered to look up what the current Z series flagship is. Guess it's the Z840 now.

Seeing the Z2 mini makes me a bit excited to see what they'd come up with if they apply their new brand facelift to the rest of the line.

>>58696987
Is Apple still even trying the pro market? Seems like they've abandoned it entirely/people have finally gotten smart about building their own computers when it comes to pro stuff.

>>58699444
They've been waging war on it since they shitcanned the PM 9600, Jobs ramped it up on his return. Now it's totally in the shitter.

>>58694751
People have started longing for CRTs and I just ask myself why? What I remember most was the really high pitched whine that meant that I couldn't watch any more than one film or play much of a game in a sitting before getting a headache. Modern no-moving-parts technology is clearly the correct direction.

>>58699493
>Modern no-moving-parts technology is clearly the correct direction.
There are no moving parts in a CRT... The whine is probably from running it at a low refresh rate, or you just had a real piece of shit.

>>58699521
The electrons you doofus.

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When will beige come back? When will 3D bevelled UIs come back?

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>>58699558
not today my white friend not today

>>58699558
lowest quality b8

>>58699564
>dat joystick
let's play IL2!!!

>>58695232
i would have preferred if they actually caught up to CRTs before discontinuing them

>>58694986

Looks like a cheap gittah amp

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#1 reason:
Normies invaded computing in the late 1990s

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Everyone is doing the same thing instead of make their mark

>>58699617
Hobbyists and nerds were a minority in computing by the mid '80s, the average computer user was generally an office drone or other person using them for business purposes.

t. shitbox collector and forensics enthusiast

>>58699641
You're right.
I should have said, Normies invaded recreational computing in the late 1990s

The office drone wasn't the direct marketing audience, but their boss, who usually just wanted effective computers, gray boxes.

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>>58699442
hp has so nice design, craps on crapple, its a real shame how they market it

>>58699617
I'm just going to assume it's a dude that's sponsored by asus

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>>58699667
gaudy people commit these crimes against aesthetics voluntarily

why do steve jobs-related products look cooler than non-steve jobs-related products?

>>58695245

But, but muh progress...

There really hasnt been much advancement in tech for decades. Things have become faster and smaller and quantum computing gets hyped, but thats about it.

>>58699653
Yeah I think I'm with you there, normies just used consoles or shitty toy 8-bits. It felt like PCs /really/ started going full consumer around 1995.

>>58694618
looks like a rama keyboard

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>>58699705
>That gatling barrel on the case

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>>58699738
the same kind of people drive fugly cars and listen to shitty music

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>>58699748
Would this be acceptable?

>>58699705
Removed additional hard drive bay for soda compartment which is receiving heat from the computer??????

Removed front air flow for a minigun?????????????????

>>58699759
That car is actually tastefully riced.

It doesn't have xboc hueg skirts and isnt stanced into the ground

>>58699825
>tasteful
>rice
Oxymoron.

>>58699759
Why the shitty, soulless clone waifu? Awful taste.

>>58699831

Its because it has his waifu on it.

>>58699850
I was talking about the car, not the skin

also Rei a shit

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>>58694611
Well I've got news for you, buddy. I DID live with it. And I still think it is way fucking cooler than new technology.

I was always messing around in DOS as a kid, and now, as an adult, I think terminals are the hottest shit.

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>>58699725
Is this ironic?

>>58694837
I find it cool how vfd technology is still in use. I think that korg or someone else has applied the technology to make triodes for amplifiers that can have tube sound characteristics but be significantly smaller.

>>58700015
Hate negative space between monitors and bases.

>>58699654
The real shame is despite how nice they look they're still cheaply made pieces of shit. I went laptop browsing with my gf a few weeks ago and all these stupid meme laptops like the xps 13 and lenovo yoga /g/ goes on about feel like trash in person. The hp's looked really, really nice but were just as bad as the rest build quality wise.

Even the macbook is a piece of shit now. My friend had a 2011 or 2012 macbook pro that actually made me jealous. Felt really nice, loved the charger, fantastic keyboard (save for the shit awful enter and backspace keys). Still don't care for osx but eh. Played with the new usb-c ones and they're a fucking joke.

Even the surface book is a disappointing turd.
Truely high quality ultra books are fucking dead.

>>58694906
http://www.xiaomitoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/gpd_win-0.jpg

>>58694722
The rainbow logo was from Apple 8-bit times to indicate it's support for colour.

>>58699521
>The whine is probably from running it at a low refresh rate, or you just had a real piece of shit.
Check yourself for hearing damage.

>>58700297
you say that after the first guy posted a mac that didn't even support shades of gray, letalone colour?

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>>58694837
My nigga have you see magic eye tubes?

"Neon" green (i know it ain't neon, bare with me here) cathode ray tubes used for tuning indicators. I have a couple set aside for some spectrum analyzer and vu meter projects.

Also check this nixie bargraph spectrum analyzer. I plan on copying it but simplifying things with some LM3916's instead of the author's complicated comparator network.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Nixie-Tube-Music-Visualizer/?ALLSTEPS

Addition cool vintage indicator tubes to sperg out on here:

http://www.tubes-store.com

>>58699127
Good god. It looks incredible. Monolithic, strong, confident and not begging for attention.

>>58696987
>tfw the mac pro was literally the best computer that Apple had

>>58694348
It doesn't. You're just retarded. Glad I could help.

>>58695232
What impeded the fabrication of CRT thin as a 2006 low budget monitor?

>>58695116
is this evangelion

>>58696274
looks like an xbox one lel

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important to remember the original notebook that inspired the comfyness of our beloved Thinkpad

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>>58694906

beep beep coming through

>>58701439
>ARM

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>>58701419
You're retarded.

>>58701459
>muh chinkpad

>>58701448
and the problem with that is?

>>58695116
Goddamn that looks nice. Are there are cases which look similar to this?

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>>58694348
>Your PC will never look this AESTHETIC.

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Designers have turned minimalism into a disease.

Sometimes more is more.

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>>58695116
>computers used to be worthy of being considered a focal point
For professionals, yeah. For PCs, beige boxes ruled the roost for decades. over the years PC cases started to get more elaborate. Unfortunately they mostly look like tacky, tasteless "gaymurr" trash covered in LEDs.

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Outta the way losers this thing's comin in hot.

>tfw I begged my parents for this turd
>dad managed to find the tower itself minus the stupid accessories second hand
>it was such a POS it ran the included hotwheels stunt track game at like 10fps and couldn't play anything else worth shit

Still played the fuck out of that game.

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>>58701567
hey man, there are some sexy beige cases out there

>>58701589
lmaoing @ your life nigro

>>58694906
UMPCs are definition of an answer looking for a problem. I can understand tablets for media consumption, but UMPCs? How many people have legitimate need for a full fledged desktop OS in their hands?
It wasn't even a price factor. Their netbook cousins were shit and companies couldn't give them away.

>>58701592
>sun
>consumer
You're just proving his point.

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>>58701613

>>58694348
>Designed by Steve Jobs and Paul Rand

>>58694648
You might not like Apple's industrial design but most people do. In fact most companies do too, as soon as Apple does something everybody copies it.

>>58701521
He can only use Windows because he's a poo and works for Intel.

>>58699127
That wireless display.

Next (tm) is comfy as fuck. I used to fuck with one when I worked at Pixar.

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>>58694931
No, rainbows were associated with children wanting to learn to read.

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>>58701567
There's nothing wrong with understated beige designs. I was always a fan of the first generation of the HP Pavilion lineup, it stood out with that weirdo curvature but it still wasn't obnoxious, felt pretty solid, was decently expandable and had a lot of nice little touches such as rear plastics covering the sheet metal.

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>>58702474
The first generation of the Acer Aspire was nice in that way too.

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>>58694348
I miss all-in-one keyboard desktops. MSX2+ machines are some of the most gorgeous computers I have ever seen.

>>58694553
It doesn't. Hell it barely functions for shit.

Modern crap is shitty thin and without proper ports or inputs. Also breakable as Fuck as the result.

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>>58702520
I've always associated that kind of design with weak low-end consumer systems and never was into them. Discrete systems also always had a more serious "machine-like" quality to them.

That said, MSX all-in-ones pulled it off way better than anything else, I always liked them more than the standalone desktops too that looked like VCRs.

>>58702520
looks like something out of an 80's cyberpunk anime

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>>58702579
That's why I'd rather play the MSX2 version of Snatcher instead of the newer versions.

>>58702612
fuck, doesn't get any more 80's cyberpunk than that

Well it looks shit because every single thing needs to bee gaming 'n shit. I understand that gaming maket is big and accumulate billions of dollars every year ( around 30 billion this year) but that's not a excuse to be ugly

>>58702645
*be

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>>58702563
>Discrete systems also always had a more serious "machine-like" quality to them.
Agreed. I especially like discrete versions of computers that were originally all-in-one.

I've spent months trying to get a 128D instead of a 64 or regular 128 just because I think it looks that much better.

>>58702660
Same. I was fortunate enough to pick up two 128Ds way back but unfortunately I can't do much with them since I can't figure out where to get a keyboard cheaply.

The only thing I don't like about the 128Ds is that they never offered a matching external hard disk or internal hard disk option for them, having reliable mass storage would make them the ultimate 8-bit to me.

>>58694595
Those are probably the two best examples of how new tech looks like shit.

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>>58702645
I just think companies don't take as much pride in their individual design and brand image anymore. As cringily cynical as it sounds to me, modern consumer computing feels a race to the bottom and a fight for the wallet of the lowest common denominator.

>>58694906
It evolved into Surface Pro.

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>>58702818
Well most selling parts are most expenaive, 46% of market holds "top tier" or you pay way to much for RGB crap. Just look at graphic cards why are they can't be simple not saying that all are weird looking and ugly but most of them is

>>58699617
>dat setup
>on that desk
>in this room
wat

>>58702933
It's clearly owned by some teenager living in his parents' house.

>>58694751
> Much like the audiophiles who claim rocks on their cables make the digital sound crystal clear.
What, you mean ferrite cores?

There's some truth to that.

>>58701608
> How many people have legitimate need for a full fledged desktop OS in their hands?
>>> need
anon pls

>>58694348
Probably because of gaming appeal. Like how basketball shoes are designed. They're designed to look like they're going to win or defeat something or pried from the horn of satan. The older machines looked like they were useful and competent.

>>58701493
> chinkpad
>>> made by IBM
You're retarded.

>>58695116
Holy fuck that is sexy.

I really like the new Dell Inspiron 15 5000. Simple design, and the only minimalist part of it is the trash OS

>>58695214
> People running these servers don't give half a shit what they look like, as long as what they're selling is marketable
>>> implying

>>58695353
Looks fine to me, fatass pajeet.

>>58700189
Pretty much all laptops are dogshit now.

The last good one was probably the Dell Precision M4800 and M6800.

>>58699564
sauce on mousepad?

>>58694348
Beause there is more old technology and you only remember the good things so statistically most good things are old.

>>58702891
Doesn't mean you still can't race to the bottom there either though, gotta get those big numbers as cheaply as possible

As far as graphics cards go, PNY feels like the only vendor I can tolerate when it comes to simple looks.

>>58703467
Should post some good new shit then. I tried but I can't find much outside of some high-profile ultrabooks.

>>58700189
I personally like how rigid the Surface Pro 4 is including the keyboard, but holy fuck, the softest touch on the screen distorts the image. How fucking thin is the glass they're using? It's like poking a bare LCD.

>>58701419
That PowerBook G3 was made because Steve Jobs loved the heck out of his ThinkPad 560E when he was at NeXT.

>>58703743
he didn't even use Macs until OS X finally came out way after the wallstreet G3 though

>>58701291
> implying
hello /v/

>>58695353
nah. that design is just garbage.

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>>58701563
This.

>>58701852
> millions of people like it
> therefore it's good
No, it's shit.

> In fact most companies do too, as soon as Apple does something everybody copies it.
Why do you think companies copy Apple? Because retards like Apple. They don't have to "like" Apple's "industrial design", but instead have to suffer with it because it makes them money - or at least they think it will.

This is why new ThinkPads are shit.

>>58702493
fuckin' Pajama Sam

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>>58704012
By the time I can actually afford to own one of these things they'll probably be pretty rough for general use and it pisses me off to no end

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>>58694986
Next cube is die-cast magnesium not chinkmetal and plastic

>>58704176
>magnesium
>soft, brittle crap

I'd rather it be ABS like the SGis

>>58704062
Can't you get one of the cases and put modern hardware in?

>>58702474
>>58702493
That looks terrible IMO.

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>>58700044
no you don't. A monitor with no negative space would be denying you use of all of the space under the monitor. And the monitor has to be elevated regardless for correct viewing angle

>>58699738
It really spins, too. The fan drives it.

>>58699521
>he can't hear the 60hz mains whine off a CRT

the other guy wasn't joking, you probably have minor hearing loss.

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>>58701629
m-my first very own computer

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>>58704428
you've come a long way, anon.

>>58699334
The last major change to standards affecting cases was the AT-ATX transition and that happened 20 years ago. A 10 year old case can fit parts made yesterday.

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>people unironically want thick ugly big retro looking computers opposed to slick thin minimalistic design

I like modern design. I use surface pro 4 on the go and my main computer is in a titanium fractal design r4 case.

>>58694348
it looked good but more importantly had good build quality, todays tech may look sleek and cool but it's badly made - fragile plastics, lead-free solder, easily scratched surfaces, and that fucking rubberized plastic that turns into sticky, gunky mess or just wears off. Nothing today is built to last because "muh steady income" and "continuos expansion" - also less user-servicable

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>you will never own a computer that doubles as a couch.

>>58704783
My computer doubles as a step ladder, is that close enough?

>>58704642
I unironically want decent cooling, yes.

>>58704797
Have you ever had sex on your step ladder?
If so then yes.

https://www.zarfund.com/ref/726b10b6d7/register

>>58704642
>people are so sick of our all-one-way attitude sacrificing all features for one particular opinion of appearance that they'd rather use 80s hardware than see another fucking "minimalist" shitpile

This should tell you something. Have some self-awareness.

>>58702152

There were no gays in the 80s. It's an elaborate hoax.

>>58699617
I unironically like the tower, not the colors just the design, should I off myself?

>>58704839
so people are hipsters?

okay.

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>>58694348

Posting comfyness.

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>>58705733
>Monochrome
Get on my level, pleb.

>>58703379
Comfy.

>>58703379
How are apple //'s so comfy looking?
It's basically a c64, but makes me want to buy one to fuck around with

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>>58704062
holy cow that thing is huge. i like the design but it's like duplo vs lego.

give me a 1/4 scale NUC of that, with modular components i can snap together, perhaps with a small display on the front showing status, and now we're talking...

>>58702493
>ultimate solution
>not final solution

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>>58699442

Only HP and Lenovo have designs that are outside of typical consumer language these days.

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>>58706955

MBO of that thing

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IBM Netvista X

>>58698641
It was great and I preferred them over SGIs, HPs, or the Macs and PCs.

Mathematica on a color NeXT machine was fucking sweet. Also you could get your work done faster - Mathematica as well as several other packages supported network-transparent multiprocessing on NeXT, so if machines were idle or near-idle in the lab your job would automatically take advantage of them.

Also best aesthetic of any OS, ever.

>>58703897
People copy Apple because they're the only company left doing industrial design, and people buy Apple laptops for various reasons, including how they look. This must irritate you but bitching about normies on an anonymous image board sure isn't going to change things.

Maybe start your own computer company if you're sick of shitty computers? That's been done before.

>>58706974
>those little turbine-looking HSFs

all of my boners

>>58705733
DUDE WEED LMAO

>>58707259
I still use an arm like that for my screen.

>>58707503
lol. Apple's design has never been "industrial."

Also, I must point out that, "if you don't like it just make your own from scratch!" is not a valid argument. You're just changing the subject and telling people to shut up.

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>>58707748

Apple is as "consumer design" as it can get.

They did made few very nice things no doubt about it.

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>>58704389

Rackmount

>>58695022
Doubt it but that would be pretty cool

>>58706955
i used that monitor until a few months ago

>>58694595
>macs
Hardly any ports, looks smug.

>Thinkpads
Lots of ports, looks cool.

>>58700189
>The hp's looked really, really nice but were just as bad as the rest build quality wise.
i'm pretty sure you didn't see a elitebook/zbook/latitude/thinkpad product. They are marketed for the business so they aren't available in consumer stores.

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>>58694762
>implying that bloatware and program upon program isn't detrimental to productivity
Apple have this reputation of having reliable products. And they are, until they are bricked...

The last decade-ish, there's plenty of musical gear that's basically iPhone or iPad controllers. But Akai has finally disregarded that with the release of their new MPCs.

>>58694595
They both look like shit

>>58707748
>not knowing what industrial design means
>not knowing frogdesign
>not knowing Susan Kare
It's hard to even say there is a topic when you obviously can't be bothered to make an argument.

Again you might not like Apple but among industrial designers, they are considered to be iconic. There will never be a Lenovo in the Smithsonian.

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>>58709424
johnny ive was a mistake

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>>58709483
He's the poor man's Dieter Rams.

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>>58695171
WE NEED MOAR RGB

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>>58709424

Comparing Apple to IBM from standpoint of industrial design.

>>58709697
That was all in the past anon. IBM doesn't do anything but hire out poos and sell replacement mainframes to institutional customers any more.

Anyway I didn't compare them. You're still having a really difficult time making an argument aren't you? Many such cases. Sad!

>>58709424
>not knowing the thinkpad 701c

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>>58704303
No, the hardware in it and the IRIX operating system is the entire reason I want it in the first place.

People who destroy ultra-rare pieces of history like that to put boring off-the-shelf parts in them are the worst kind of hipster. Don't be one.

>>58705901
It's what I'd expect out of what is probably the most powerful desktop MIPS system in existence.

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>>58709794
Damn I posted the wrong shot

>>58694348
What if the LCD was never invented? What if today, phones had mini CRT screens and were bulky as fuck?

>>58709830
>>58709794
Can these things compete ANYWHERE close to modern machines? Thought so

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>>58709872
Yeah let's melt down historical artifacts and use the gold to 3D print new art

>>58709872
So destroy a piece of history just so you can put some off the shelves b150 motherboard in it? Conversions of old cases for use with new hardware never looks good. Like those powermac g5 towers, they just end up looking butchered.

>>58709872
Who cares. But a 4x1GHz/16GB RAM loaded system would definitely be usable for a load of tasks, yeah, even an entry-level 800MHz/512MB config is plenty to have fun with a lot of a lot of free and commercial IRIX software, and there are lots of SGI enthusiasts that regularly use or even daily drive their systems. There's more to computing than web surfing, after all.

If one really needs to consume streaming media or whatever other basic bitch task your kind seems to fall apart without, cheap phones, tablets and laptops are a thing and will continue to be them. It's not hard.

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>>58702493

>>58709934
different anon
>using a slow ugly machine
It would have been great if the technology and design was modernized, but it's too ugly to be considered cute, and to outdated to be more useful than an even older computer or newer far cheaper computer
But if you have a thing for collecting the things, I can't really fault you

>>58702493
> Ultimate solution
OY VEY

>>58694821
Even in '81 that design was old. It goes well back into the '70s and perhaps beyond that. Similar colors and textures were used in the first S/360 designs, when IBM finally abandoned battleship grey.

>>58710034
Doesn't have to be useful to be preserved. Nobody drags out their Amiga 1200 to encode 4k video and post on facebook. If you don't want to keep it, give it to someone that will.

I'm sure there are people that destroy collectible books to make covers for their eink reading tablets. People converting old hardware for modern components kinda feels like that to me.

>>58709853

That sounds like some kickass cyberpunk PipBoy shit. Somebody draw that fucker up.

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>>58710034
You need to stop acting like you can only have one computer, and also that we like what we do based on a price or performance perspective. Nobody thinks these things are faster or more cost effective than a modern solution, but that doesn't matter, because that's not why we're interested in them.

They're fascinating, novel systems that were once (and still are) incredible pieces of engineering and cost a shit ton of money, and in the case of later SGI hardware especially they're extremely rare and the only platform capable of running IRIX, one of the best SysVs ever to grace the desktop, which will probably never be possible to emulate.

The Tezro especially is a particularly disgusting modding target because not only will the non-standard layout make any effort to rip out the unique hardware that makes it actually interesting end up looking like a shitty hackjob that insults the aesthetics you're trying to pursue in the first place, but in the end you're just ending up with a shitty supersized MicroATX case with worse airflow and expandability than a piece of $20 shit off of Newegg.

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>>58695197
>>58699493
>why?
* much better resolution - Mid range CRTs had resolutions like 1600x1200 while lcd was at 1280x1024.

* Near perfect blacks, many times better than lcd today, not to mention at the time CRTs were made. Oled compares, but isnt availible in PC screens.

* Great refresh rates - 240hz was the norm, only found in expensive gaymur screens today.

* All resolutions are native - Useful for looking at low res stuff likte VNs as well as modern games, since few GPUs can run games good enough at 4k.

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I want a Navi.

>>58701439
>PowerVR

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>>58701439
>cheap-looking styling
>unsightly thickness
>that shitty keyboard
>that gaymepad bullshit
>probably shit battery life too
>shit ARM chipset (basically having a fully compatible PC that fit in your pocket was half of what made UMPCs so cool)
I'm sure they're great for the specific niche they cater to but why people try to tout these as a viable blanket replacement for oldschool palmtops and UMPCs, I'll never understand.

>>58710002
>daily drive
gee bill, didn't know, reddit was fond of SGi computers

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>>58700967

Yeah I have 2 magic eye tubes I ordered from ebay. Unfortunately, form everything I have read about magic eye tubes is that they don't last long,. I was going to make a spectrum analyzer with 6 of them but the costs being so high, and them not having a long life I said fuck it.

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>>58710839
??? please do the english needful

>>58710965
hello friend

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>>58709682

muh autism

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>>58711028
same

>>58710449
Then buy one

>>58703379
https://youtu.be/9ZBU0fwPpNQ

>>58701567
i'm glad we're coming out of the led age. led's were expense, especially certain colors but now RGB ones are pennies (thanks china). I've seen KBs, cases, and mice without decoration go for more because of demand I assume. Producers will soon follow.

I want a CLI / text editor / IDE that does this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZsiR45tKKw

>>58710015
underrated

>>58709525
Dieter Rams is a fan of Jony's work.

https://www.fastcodesign.com/3067405/the-founder-a-game-about-the-dark-side-of-silicon-valley

>>58695401
Making things look nice is what people do to procrastinate actual work.

>>58709908
>comparing a piece of art to a piece of outdated shit tech
Any individually produced art should be put in a museum. Mass produced tech should be recycled.

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>>58704012
>>58704062
>>58709794
>>58709830
>>58710190
>>58710965
>>58711092

I sold off the last of my SGI gear a while ago. They were lovely machines and IRIX is neat, but I needed the money for other things.

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>>58713030

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>>58713054

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>>58713071

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>>58713090

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>>58713104

>>58694348
Because it was way better built.

>>58694668
Dell and Compaq were my first ever computers. I remember walking into a Gateway Store as a kid and I reflect on how big of a failure they were.

I loved my old Dell desktop. I tinkered with it and knew how to open it up, change things around, and put it back together.

Last time I had a desktop that I actively used was probably back in 2007-08

>>58694906
Sorry, Mr. Robot

>>58694986
Can I hook my Les Paul up to it? Shit looks like it has reverb

>>58695104
My sister who's in her thirties had a beige computer and so did I. I was born in '92 and I still remember AOL and my mom having to get off the phone so I could connect to the internet. And looking at porn ever so slowly.

>>58713177
LMAO

>>58695116
Yeah exactly. My mom actually ordered direct from Dell back then. They still do it but their desktops are not nearly as well built as they used to be.

>>58713200
>looking at porn ever so slowly
Good ole days. It took 2 weeks for me to download 44 megabytes worth of pics.

>>58695298
Because people don't put enough effort into it.

I've seen a lot of standard set-ups over the years by people who think they know what they're talking about and I've actually corrected a lot of technicians who have came out to install things in my home. Especially the last tech who came out and said "hurr you shouldn't put your TV on top of your STB"

I bluntly asked him "well if you'd mount my TV too, I'd appreciate it"

Most of the fuck ups that Telecom Installers make, I have to correct.

>>58695334
People with time to kill and nothing to do in their lives build their own.

Those who value their time as money have it built for them.

In fact, there are companies that build custom PC's for people with deep pockets. I was going to do it but I wanted a more mobile choice.

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>>58712670
Stop trying to make such laughable excuses for your tastelessness. Do you realize that these systems are typically built and designed by large companies with many departments composed of more than one person that can accomplish different goals in parallel?

Hell, have you also noticed that while those "procrastinators" consistently developed systems that were upwards of 20-50% faster on most levels than their predecessors, the more "productive" engineers of today who half-ass their product quality and design can barely deliver 5% performance increases from generation to generation? You clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, but that's to be expected from a poser who thinks the height of design is whatever shitty trashcan Apple shills are pushing on Reddit at the moment.

Form and function are not mutually exclusive, and you're not accomplishing any more by using an ugly piece of shit and putting forward the bare minimum as long as the marketing numbers are big.

>>58713030
At least you got some nice shots out of it. That Octane2 looks kitted out to shit too.

>>58696603
>SINCE I CAN'T VENT, MY COMPUTER MUST DO IT FOR ME
kek

>>58694348
it does not, your brain got hijacked by /g/

>>58713233
I remember when I first got Comcast High Speed Internet. Felt like a king.

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>>58706974
>those heatsinks

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>>58713054
>>58713071
Too cool. Model name?

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I'm heartbroken, now I want to become an industrail designer and fix the ugly world of tech

>>58710251
FUCK NO on the refresh,

blacks are true black, the contrast on a typical crt when new was 1:10000+ but quickly degraded over time.

>>58699008
>>the white [plastic] looks like shit after some years
they typically made them a cool grey, but the plastic degrades to a yellowish color.

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>>58714052
It's an Octane2 nigga
hope you got a deep wallet

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>>58714104
all classical architecture is being destroyed. all classic tech is being destroyed. customizable UIs are being destroyed for "sleek and modern" UIs. websites are being raped by HTML5 and javascript; I have a laptop that was $1200 9 years ago and now it can't even watch YouTube videos.

No matter how many of us realize we hate it, there is nothing we can do. The world is just going to be ugly and planned obsolete from now on. That's the way it is.

>>58710693
like it or not, they are ultra mobile pcs, the only issue you take is most people's wants or needs from them are emulation.

and let's not kid ourselves, both devices keyboards suck dick, but at least the one with the gamepad may have tac switches.

>>58714220
classical architecture exists in europe anon

>>58699576
I'm hit I'm going down!

>>58701608
netbooks issues were a few fold.
1) the screens were to high a resolution making everything to small
2) they were sold as laptops, not as niche products, so any normal person who bought one got shit that was never filling their need.
3) they while they were to small, they were also to big to be really ultra portable, a 10-13 inch screen is not fitting in my pocket.
4) any legitimate use the devices could be suitable for, found themselves in a marketspace where apple is the thing you are fighting.

>>58714234
Well, yeah, for us that don't care that emulation shit just gets in the way, why should we be happy to put up with that? It's clearly not for us.

>and let's not kid ourselves, both devices keyboards suck dick, but at least the one with the gamepad may have tac switches.
Fuck the switches, it's shit because it's retardedly scrunched forward and missing keys, not because it doesn't have the right meme crutch to make me feel like I'm doing more than I actually am.

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>>58714239
Not for long. Enjoy your refugees

>>58711257
Not demand, boutique.
You see, nothing in a 'tasteful' pc is worth much, in fact likely cheaper to make them like that too, but they have a brand name, and the brand name sells the product FAR more so then the design.

>>58714326
you may not notice it form the pictures, but these things are to fucking small to type on reliably, whereas the one you posted if i remember how big those are, could be typed on, not comfortably, but typed on nonetheless.

https://youtu.be/Hzjacv3JIuM?t=5m34s

>>58714349
im a burger but the point is that you have to be successful enough to travel the world now, otherwise you're a poorfag who deserves to be depressed about everything

>>58714394
I own a 95LX and use it every day, I'm very well aware of what they are and aren't capable of.

And I would consider that shitbox a poor replacement on most accounts, an uglier one too.

>>58714412
so everyone born after us deserves to be depressed?

>>58714052
it's literally on the picture...

>>58714413
able to plug in or use real keyboard and mouse
able to use a somewhat real os (not sure what it can take, but it has a custom linux distro)
main purpose the one that sold the idea, was to have an emulation box that could run everything ps1 and earlier and be pocketable and it succeeds very well at this, the fact it does other things took is just a bonus.

>>58699617
> this pic

> hey guys i play VIDEO GAMES on my COMPUTER

> just thought you would want to know

> did i mention i have a COMPUTER

>>58699759
OH SHIT I KNOW THAT GUY

HOOOOLY SHIIIT

he takes that car to fanime every year

he's a massive weeb, travels to japan, does dedicated cosplay

it's a nice car, too

>>58709764
As I said that's all old news.

>>58709872
They're fine for shitposting.

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>>58694348

I appreciate threads like this from time to time. They remind me that computers are tools, used to solve problems.

I don't give a shit what they look like as long as they work as tools.

That said I think old tech knew what problems it was trying to solve. It knew it's market's problems and was able to assist and... meet expectations?

Now computers aren't just required to replace a drafting table, typewriter, dayplanner, rolodex, calculator, mailroom and secretary. But they also are expected to signal that you will apply "computing" and "collaboration" to create a superior solution to new problems regardless of ability to back that up.

Part modern codpiece, part modern silver cross pen and gold plated letter opener, part modern bulge under your jacket saying "lookout". All while under the hood it's been so moderated and sanitized that you can barely brick a system if you actively try.

Ideally the tech should be invisible. But then who would know what to order at the apple store?

pic is what I plan to buy the wife to check all the boxes.

>>58715319
>all in one
If you're going to get one, at least look at your options

HP has some great all-in-ones. Especially this one: http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/desktops/hp-envy-curved-all-in-one-desktop---34-a150--t4a32aa-aba

>>58714629
>able to plug in or use real keyboard and mouse
Totally misses the point of such a small device, might as well just carry a real laptop at that point
>able to use a somewhat real os (not sure what it can take, but it has a custom linux distro)
UMPCs and Palmtops could do that too
>main purpose the one that sold the idea, was to have an emulation box that could run everything ps1 and earlier and be pocketable and it succeeds very well at this
This was never a point I argued against, that's what it's good for, doesn't mean it's good for everything else.

>>58710693
I use one of those for storing passwords and also for the calculator and other stuff too.

>>58714220
I have a plan anon. It will take a couple years but things will get better.