/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

Reminder

/Mkg/ bois, check out MemeDrop. NPKC Gradient Keycaps are up for ~40 USD.

>Rainbow
>Sky Blue
>Sunset Blue

All offered on the base package of 87keys in blanks. Extra 3 sheckels for top/side printed or 104key.

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daily reminder something something redditors

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Friendly reminder that the Tada68 is only 84$ on taobao

(60 $ + 24$ shipping)

taobao /item/537653557670.htm?fromSite=main

>>58657446
Temptation is real meng

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Reminder that the RAMABAE M65-A is like the Tada68 but GODDAMN SEXY

>>58657446
fuck anon should I just got a magicforce68
fuggggg
>>58657495
iktf

whats the switch also?

>>58657516
>Reminder that the RAMABAE M65-A is like the Tada68 but
with more wasted space, and money

i dont even get how anyone could defend these things

>>58657516
>but wastes more space than necessary

Fixed that for you.

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Wasted space on a keyboard is a crime, anything but layouts that are fully stacked with keys are shit

>>58657516
I want to tongue RAMA's asshole

>>58657731
What is this keyboard, or what are comparable keyboards? I have a friend who refuses to ditch 10key but space is a premium for him, this'd be perfect.

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>there are people here who hate bezels

>>58657899
Yes, because excessive bezels are pointless.

>>58657946
Your fucking life is pointless. You're spending your evening discussing fucking KEYBOARDS on an anime imageboard with random autistic strangers like me.

>>58658031
The same applies to you m8.

>>58658035
>random autistic strangers like me
I know, I acknowledged this.

Can you guys help me name my new tkl, I'm out of ideas

>>58658057
Chris

>>58657270
are there any waifu-themed keyboards out there?

>>58658063
No that's gay

>>58658075
Hey fuck you buddy, my name is Chris and I think *you're* gay for wanting to name your stupid piece of shit tkl.

>>58658057
Gayniggerfaggot Smith

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>>58657516
damn the RAMA looks like that??!???

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>>58658142

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>>58658068
You can get a 2d girl on a custom set of keycaps from wasd.

Last thread got rekt before I got a reply.

How does the Doubleshot ABS feel on the Pok3r compared to PBT on say a Leopold 750r?

>>58658329
Poker 3 is PBT

how long does pmk take for shipping?

>>58658344
The RGB Variant isnt.

>>58658345
If you bought from a group buy, then its 1 year. If you bought from "pre-existing" stock then 3-4 months.

>>58657758
I think they're collectively referred to as 96-keys, there's the RS96, AMJ96, ZZ96 and some thousand dollar Korean Customs that I know of.

The RS96 occasionally drops on Massdrop and sometimes Originative has them, other than that your best bet is Taobao.

AMJ96 kit:
https://world.taobao.com/item/529367976614.htm#detail

This store has a bunch of 96-key parts including cases, plates and PCBs:
https://shop110310565.world.taobao.com/

>>58658345
Generally about two weeks to Australia

is the G.Skill RIPJAWS KM570 MX any good?

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-RIPJAWS-KM570-Cherry-Brown/dp/B01LZ3CMKW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485406700&sr=8-2&keywords=g.skill+km570

>>58657526
IIRC Tada68s come with the Gateron switches of your choice. Red, Blue, Black, Brown and not sure if they come in greens.

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>>58658142
kek

>>58658480
if you can wait just get https://www.amazon.com/Glorious-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard-Minimalist/dp/B01D8YNJH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485408154&sr=8-1&keywords=glorious+mechanical+keyboard

it usually goes on sale for around 80, and switchable switches

>>58658643
>Brown Switches
>Red LED

So you the same fag from last thread who was getting fired/divorced/kicked out of his house because of his loud ass keyboard that he needs because he is an ebin writer?

>>58658643
no i am not

>>58658709
wooops wrong quote

>>58658691

Which site is best for hhkb like keycaps, blank or dark legends. Also, maybe dark side printed caps

>>58658738
Any good taobao proxies other than taobao trends? Unless they just broke the website for Chinese new year I can't get their site to work.

>58654031

What set is this? Please don't be limited time offer shit.

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mmm yeah baby

>>58659605
enjoypbt

taobao

>>58659643
I actually found it, thanks though. Aren't those two different manufacturers?

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n-no h8 pls

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What is this called when there's nothing covering the bottom of the keys? image related

>>58659765
floating keys

>>58659653
????

enjoypbt is a manufacturer
taobao is a marketplace

>>58659728
GCC?

why the fuck are g20 caps so damn expensive?

>>58659817
because sp

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>>58657270
NiseKoi keychain? at work atm so random google search pic for my keyboard. got it for 10 and been wondering where i can find keys that would be compatible with this

>>58659765
trash

>>58659826
Is it a mechanical keyboard? You are pretty fucked with that nonstandard bottom row.

>>58659877
yea its a tte meka cherry mx brown. ik im pretty much fucked but the only reason i need so switch out the keys is my late night drunk game sessions. cant see the keyboard clearly at some point...

>>58659877
>bottom row
it's got a 2u left shift too, they're pretty hard to find since the minila is just about the only keyboard to use it

also big ass enter

also >putting the /? key on the right of the arrow cluster rather than halving the numpad 0 key to make room for the arrow cluster like all 96-keys
for what purpose
it moves the right shift to such a weird position, and puts the /? way out of position

>>58659899
just realised the pic i used is not even the european one... its even more fucked than this picture...

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>>58659795
anon i spent the last 10 minutes trying to decode what GCC meant, only to end up more confused than when i started. anon help

>>58659890
you're super fucked

i don't think anyone makes replacement big ass enters
not even china

>>58659890
I guess you might be able to get some set with flat profile where every key is the same height that has a bunch of compatibility keys for weird layouts. Some custom group buy from massdrop maybe. It would be cheaper to just buy a new keyboard honestly.

>>58659911
>>58659919
yeah thats what i guessd, still tho got the keyboard for 10€ from a fucking yardsale and there is no problems with it. anyway thanks

>>58659919
i dont think even the most compatible of group buys will have a 2.25u ctrl key or big ass enter

>>58659910
If you didn't get, then you aren't.

NP anon, I just wondered if we had something in common.

>>58659939
Yeah probably not i figured he might be able to use a shift for the control key since the right shift is 1u but only if it was a set where all the keys are the same height. For the bigass enter lots of group buys have iso packs as an option. But he would probably be spending north of $200.

>>58660050
ISO enter and Big Ass Enter are different sizes, anon. ISO is 1.5u at the top half and 1.25u at the bottom half, BAE is 1.5u at the top half and 2.25u at the bottom half.

>>58659826
Hello. Yes it's a NiseKoi keychain, Marika to be specific.

Good luck finding non-standard row key caps. Jeez that's one big CTRL key.

http://www.dsi-keyboards.com/shop/brands/dsi-left-handed-usb-keyboard-with-cherry-mechanical-red-key-switches-new/

is it shit?

>>58659826
I have to add, if you really don't want to spend on a new keyboard, just pick up some new quality ABS or PBT for that keyboard and leave the non-standard keys on.

Some Corser K65, Logi G710+ and the like owners have that problem.

>>58660180
It's okay, I myself have no experience with the DSI company.

I mean if you need that inverted form factor, go for it lol.

>>58657270
Are Topre switches worth it, /mkg/?

What's the cheapest keyboard that uses Topre switches?

thx

>>58657446
>not great financially right now
>already have a mech keyboard
>was thinking of building one myself
>still, some spare money

I shouldn't... fuck

>>58660451
Do it anon. I am going to order one of these kits
>>58658443
As soon as chinese new year is over

Is the Tada on Taobao the exact same as the originative ones? Their shipping is taking fucking forever.

Should just cancel the order and buy a Realforce91. But I want something small.

>>58660611
IIRC, yes. Taobao ones are just being sold by the manufacturer or someone near them (Possibly with Originative's permission).

>>58659624
How do you enter numbers?

>>58660652
probably some complex fn layer key combo that only the creator knows

>>58659624
This is like a museum piece. Cute, but completely unusable.

>>58660185
sry for late response i'll look into it

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>get a call from my dad at work
>he says they are throwing out a bunch of old keyboards
>thinks he found a clicky keyboard like I like
>says it's a dell
>get super pumped because I think its a buckling spring
>turns out its some kind of ALPS
>Dell AT101W
>feel better than cherry blues imo

Best thing I ever got for free desu.

Only thing wrong with it is despite being PS/2 it has really shit rollover so it's quite literally useless for gaymen, is there anything I can do about it? Like it's so bad that if you hold W to run forward, and you use say Q for mic, you'll not be able to press R to reload.

also

>tfw you're on your 4th unicomp in less than 3 years

>>58660864
>being underage

>>58660888
>being mad because you had to PAY for your keyboard
KEK

>>58660864
you could desolder the alps and put them in a clueboard for nkro and full programmability

>>58660893
>assuming I didn't pay 10€ for 3 buckling spring IBMs in a used items store

u done goofed

>>58660905
Damn, too much work for what is essentially my backup. I thought it might have been as easy as swapping out the PCB thing that the PS2 cable connects to.

>>58660908
This never happened.

>>58660921
>This never happened.

fite me

>>58660893

He's pointing out that you're getting way too excited. Most people in this general acknowledge that this "hobby" is useless vanity and they hate themselves.

>get super pumped because I think its a buckling spring

If you don't understand how this is cringy, wait a few years.

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>>58660953
I accept it's cringy, hence the shitpost reply. Paying anything more than the price of coffee on an input device is supremely autistic.

But please, don't all be upset all at once that I got a mechanical keyboard for free, one at a time please.

>>58660976
>wow, people didn't clap and cheer or get jelly for my newfound, free keyboard! :((

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>>58660995
>being this fucking assblasted about being stuck with sloppy rubber domes that you get hugely defensive
>on a norwegian fire-wood stacking imageboard

>>58661020
>assuming I'm assblasted.

I'm just shitposting, no need to get so defensive.

>>58660976

>I accept it's cringy, hence the shitpost reply. Paying anything more than the price of coffee on an input device is supremely autistic.

Actually you're alright

>But please, don't all be upset all at once that I got a mechanical keyboard for free, one at a time please.

Still trying too hard though

stop replying to this moron

>>58661084
which one there's a lot of morons here

>>58661091
better be safe and not reply to any of them

>>58661084

If we don't reply to this moron, nothing happens.

>>58661091
you

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>>58660953
+1 on the self-hatred

>>58661405
eyyyyy what kb and mouse ya got there in the background? Is that the g502?

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>>58661436
TADA68, g502 and a spacemouse, best peripherals I've had my hands on so far.

>>58661455
So what's it like having tiny baby hands?

pok3r rgb with vortex trans pbt caps yay or nay

>>58661555
no, 60% is shit

love yourself and get a 65%

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>>58661564
60% super duper comfy Senpai

>>58661564
dedicated arrow keys are for little babies

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>>58661555
The transl. PBT caps are very nice. I have 'em on muh KB.

Check MemeDrop or mechanicalkeyboards for stock.

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I just bought a Model M 139140(3) off an auction for 42E (~45 USD) inc. shipping. Is it a fair price, considering the keyboards (seller offered 2) are undamaged and just dirty, plus german layout? It's nearly impossible to get an M where I live, and it makes me feel happy I'll finally be able to put my hands on one :3

I want to buy a Unicomp but how will I customise the keycaps when the Model M keys are in two pieces?

>>58661757
Used keyboards give me herpes.. how do you plan to clean that?

>>58661792
Unicomp also has two piece keycaps, but their custom colored keys aren't

>>58661792
That doesn't really matter since they still have the same stem on the bottom

>>58661807
hot water and soap. I have some other mechanicals old and new that I bought used and had to clean them.

>>58661757
good price and yes, german layout.
off ebay?

>>58661868
something similar, polish auction site - allegro(dot).pl

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>>58657516
>>58657899
>>58657946
I love bezels, but for some reason all the RAMA shit looks obscenely ugly to me. Maybe I just don't ""get"" it. Other keyboards with huge bezels like the full size KBParadise thing look totally fine to me.

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>>58661545
Feels good man

-sent from my 5.5" phone

>>58659624
So beautiful

>>58660265

They're my perferred switch. Cheapest would probably be the Novatouch tkl. It's a topre keyboard, but still has mechanical switch stems so you can still use a vatiety of custom keycaps. I personally use the realforce 87u, so don't know whether the stems affect the feel of the keyboard.

>>58658297
thats a nice layout. Any more JIS boards that are 60%?

Filco Minila

>>58657446
make an ISO version and I'll buy 10

>>58662439
oops >>58662432

>>58662464
looks good. might pick one up.

Any alternatives to Specialeemade for custom sleeves? Seems like they're not currently taking orders.

>>58663434
1up

>>58663469
Those are more expensive for what looks like much simpler sleeve. Think I might just wait for Specialeemade.

>>58663500
get your grandma to knit one

>>58663513
shes dead

>>58657270
budget of <$100 preferably; It's a soft limit
'murica
no preferred switch type, whatever is good for a mix of typing and occasional gaming (mostly grand stratagy)
Ansi layout
no numbad is alright, but I don't really give a fuck
backlight optional
previously a dell ps/2 rubberdome, and a cheap ISO usb keyboard that where you have to wiggle the cable every ten minutes to keep it working

>>58657446
what's so great about it
looks like any other chink keyboard

>>58664029
cheap as fuck, quality, reprogrammable 65%

>>58664029
It comes with good keycaps, and has cherry clones that are actually good.

>>58664029
It's a nice layout that's not easy to find, with nice keycaps and Gateron switches, and all that for $60 is really cheap.

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What two colors do I get?

>>58664477
Blue/White

>>58664477
Red/Black

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>>58664864
>>58664477
>>58664932
I should probably mention that I don't own a Realforce or an HHKB.

I can't choose a keyboard color either. White has that retro factor but black looks cool too.

>>58664940
I really hate the black text on dark gray keys look. They might as well just be blank.

>>58664940
go with the white and red/blue then
the black keyboard looks like complete ASS

>>58662396
>Cheapest would probably be the Novatouch tkl.
Any idea where I could find one? They're discontinued.

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>>58659624
Why would they waste so much space(bottom left and right)? I would understand if it was for aesthetics reasons, buut this just looks ugly as shit.

>>58665257
that is aesthetic

>>58665231
Originative still has some i think. They might be priced as high as the realforce boards at this point.

>>58665325
Originative has them for $180USD apiece. Unless you really want the purple Novatouch Cherry-compatible sliders over installing Chinese third-party ones, might as well get a $140USD Type Heaven off mechanicalkeyboards.com

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http://www.hardcoreware.net/vortex-kbt-race-ii-review/

Anyone have any experience with one of these? Any better, non RGB alternatives?

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>>58664477
I bought some of those and they make this terrible sound. I much prefer my HHKB's ABS spacebar over the 4 chinkshit spacebars I bought.

>>58665730
>Cherry MX
no

I'm interested in getting a Magicforce 68 with blacks for trying it out, cause I'm reading good reviews about it and it's got pretty much the perfect layout for me.
Is it programmable in any way? Say if I wanted to set caps lock to fn, or the top-right 4 buttons to pgup/pgdown/home/end?

>>58665257
Why would they waste so much space(standard spacebar)?

>>58667069
If there is, I haven't found it yet.
It has 3 DIP switches that lock the Windows key, swap the Windows key with FN and swap caps lock with ctrl. Other than that it has 2 modes that just changes the way the esc/~/` key works.
On the plus side, pgup + fn = End and pgdown + fn = Home

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>>58661669
>>58659826
>>58659624
>>58658142
>>58657446

too many keys ITT
>mfw

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the rama is not retarded enough

Where can I find keycaps that have Jap symbols on them aswell as English?

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>tfw keyboard coming in the mail

>>58661820
So I'm restricted to only buying Model M/Unicomp keycaps?

>TADA still not shipped

I wanted somethiing small but this is taking way too long. Should I cancel my order and buy a Realforce 91 instead. It's actually cheaper for me to do so.

Related, does anyone know the difference between the Realforce 91 UBK and UBK-S?

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>>58668466
It's pretty fucking sexy, agreed.

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>>58657270

Any opinions on this lube, here?

https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-22058-Dielectric-Tune-Up-Grease/dp/B000AL8VD2

I am also assuming I can simply use a q-tip to adhere it to the stabilizers?

Worth to learn Dvorak ?
Qwerty gives me a lot of stress and I have bad habits on qwerty.

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Anyone know what keyboard/case this is? Or am I gonna have to make a custom PCB?

>>58669230
MAAAN PLZ what is that model? NEED TO BUY THAT KEYBOARD!
Or similar?

>>58669492
Not him, and don't know the exact model, but a Ducky Mini is similar and has a metal top case which is sweet.

Then again I'm just a sucker for metal things in general.

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>>58669492
>>58669498
RAMA M65-A

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>you will never order a E ELEMENT keyboard but then receive a Whitefox instead

>while complaining

>>58669512
much cool
How about writing? Got the carpal thing, currently using M$ egonomic 4000
Behind the screen 24/7

>>58669512
>>58669230
Btw, where to get something like that?
Googled 4 the rama store, got a website thats sold out on every article...

Need to recommend a keyboard for a retarded friend
>Budget
None
>Location
America
>Layout
Any 104+ key
>Backlight
Yes, gaymer stuff is wanted
>Previous
Razor shit
BTW He already said no to a ducky shine 6

>>58669838
I fear it's basically Corsair or Razer at this point my man

>>58669848
That's what I feared

>>58669838
>>Backlight
>Yes, gaymer stuff is wanted
>>Previous
>Razor shit

Razer shit does have the gaymer stuff down pretty well. Their macro keys & etc are at least reasonably located and don't extend the keyboard width by 6 inches.

Also, media keys. If anyone tells you they don't need media keys, they are lying.

>>58657270
hello /mkg/, I have been a plastic scissor dome pleb my entire life and am looking into getting my first mechanical keyboard.

now the OP links talk about the various press forces needed, does anybody know what kind of force your average pleb dome keys have in comparison?

google gave me no meaningful answers, thanks in advance.

>>58669948
Average rubber dome is about 65g. There are heavier and lighter ones though.

>>58669838
If you want gamer stuff without the edgy looks and he doesn't want the Ducky Shine, the MasterKeys is probably the only option. Either that or the aforementioned Corsair and Razer shit, which actually fits what he wants.

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going full retard in md recently

fuckin great bluetooth kb though

>>58670153
thanks <3

Realforce 91U or UBK

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>>58669848
What's wrong with the corsair keyboards? Bad quality or just triggered by the LEDs?

Just got a K70 MX blue off some local warehouse that sells computer parts cheap because I was too lazy to do my research and order online, all I wanted was a mechanical keyboard with an arm rest and standalone media bar (no fn key crap) withing my budget don't care what it looks like as long as it is comfortable to use.

Would have prefered brown for the slightly less noise and easier reactivation but all they had was blue, it was either that or the das keyboard that was around double the price and well over my budget.

Could've probably found a cheaper keyboard online without features I could do without such as the LED backlight and pass through USB. One with a detachable USB cable would have been better but I never had wear and tear problems with keyboards cables before since they don't move around a lot.

why is the rama actually being shilled in this thread

>>58670312
They look really bad and you can't even change the keycaps. Those the major issues. The quality isn't that bad and LEDs aren't that triggering (for most people), but it's mainly just the edgy design and non-standard layout.

>>58670367
Could change the keycaps just fine on that specific model, unless I misunderstood what you meant.

Comes with some cheap plastic key removal tool and some sloped WASD ESDF QERF keys which I never bothered with after trying some of them once because they suck to type with.

>>58670473
The bottom row key sizes aren't standard so it's harder to find decent custom keycap sets. Sure you can swap those specific ones with extra caps they bundle with it though, but you can't buy 99% of the custom caps you usually see on this thread, and customization is a big part of mechanical keyboards for a lot of people.

>>58670504
Well I see what you mean now, hopefully won't have to replace any custom keys just have to take good care of it, I'm content with the default keys if they last.

>>58670539
They'll last in the physical sense, though they will look like shit later.

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I lube my HHKB a few days ago and started using it today. I used pic related. It's pretty mushy but will it break in and feel better or did I just fuck up my shit?

Thoughts? I live in chinkland.

http://item.jd.com/1716687107.html

>>58670865
I'd buy it just for the meme logo tbqh

>>58670872
I absolutely need green switches.

I don't know how closely you guys follow chinkshit so let me know if I can get something better.

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>>58669488
looks like the first KMAC

>>58671072
why do all good things have to cost so much then disappear

i want that case

>>58671228
Varmilo makes some aluminum cases that are pretty close

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>>58669832
Group buy on Geekhack.

~$280 for the kit.

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good night /mkg/

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>>58671928
good night anon

>>58669793
shit, try a kinesis advantage or an ergodox.

Asking my question again that was sort of half answered. If I was to buy a Unicomp, am I restricted to only buying Model M compatible keycaps? These are keys with stems. I really want one.

>>58673421
It should be pretty obvious, but yes, say goodbye to fancy ass keycaps.

>>58671639
>$280

>>58673608
If you want even more bezels you can save nearly $100 by getting the EXENT thing.

Because there's no such thing as logic when it comes to these boards.

>>58673486
Guttered. Thank you. Fortunately there's a bit of a selection on their website so I'll make do with that.

>>58673616
yes there is no logic
there's no logic to custom manufacturing at all you goddman idiotic fuck
it's not like people have to design shit then manufacture shit then get people to FABRICATE the shit to make even more shit
fuck what's wrong with you
why the fuck do you think GMK keycaps are so fucking expensive
how many layers of fabrication are needed for your typical keyboard
and then
made out of fucking metal
AND THEN
with a custom PCB instead of your cookie cutter open source whore Chinese PCB
fucking christ
no fucking
logic
at
all

fucking hell fucking fuck you

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>>58660265
Don't go cheap when it comes to Topre.

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Anyone here buy from TaoBao? I want to buy some Gateron Switches, but I can't understand shit and the translations are horrible. I don't know how many a pack has, etc...

Any tips on buying there?

And yes, I know Assdrop has one for Gaterons, but until the last day, I want to check if there's somewhere I can get it for cheaper.

>>58675349
Why not just buy them from AliExpress? Still, if you want to use TaoBao, you can use an agent.

>>58675074
A keyboard isn't a new technology. It's not like there is a new breakthrough waiting to happen. All the switches have been designed over 30 years ago.

Even making double shot keycaps has become the norm and easy. The only cost is getting molds assuming you have the rest.

And just to play the game of "Ya well you don't know, the next big thing could be around the corner!". It wont be form a keyboard manufacturer. It'll be from lego.

>>58675357
Isn't TaoBao cheaper? I'll have to dish out almost 40€ for 80 switches on Ali

>>58675367
$30 for 92 here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-cherry-clone-gateron-mx-switch-transparent-case-mx-brown-blue-red-switch-lighting-translucent/32715132880.html

>>58675374
Thanks. Well, I'll get 102 for 32€ on the Assdrop though. Btw, do you know how long assdrop takes to ship?

To be honest, I just want the cheapest switch available. If I could find Kailh or Outemu for cheaper, I'd buy them.

Please spoonfeed me good Chinese keyboards. I live in China but I'm not at all familiar with the Chinese market when it comes to mechanical keyboards. Are they dogshit tier?

>>58675385
Looks like it's $1.45 for 10pc here from what I can tell: https://world.taobao.com/item/527250957150.htm#detail

You can use something like Basetao to order and just Google Translate to figure out which switch you need.

How good do Topre keyboards actually? I don't mind dropping some coin on a nice keyboard but I need to know that I like it.

I love very heavy actuation force.

>>58675754
>I love very heavy actuation force.
Then why are you looking a Topre?

>>58675754
matter of taste, try them out. you might like the 55g topres, not because of the actuation force but because you can't not bottom them out so typing feels sluggish on them

>>58675760
I'm just wondering what they actually feel like. I absolutely love Cherry MX Greens but I haven't tried other switches other than Cherry MX switches. Topre switches are highly sought after so I'm just curious what they feel liie.

>>58675074
You seem to have misread my post

It wasn't about custom manufacturing being expensive, which it is, it was about one custom 65% board being $300, and one being made at near the same time, by the same people, with the same amount of custom work going into it, with more material being used since it has a significantly larger bezel (which would also drive up the cost of finishing the case I assume), yet somehow this one that logically should cost as much or more is available for only $200.

>>58675765
>Topre switches are highly sought after so I'm just curious what they feel liie.
They're just extremely smooth with no real tactile bump like in Cherry switches. The actuation force depending on the rubber you get ranges from very light to light.

The next closest thing would be Red cherry switches.

>>58675787
ok then it sounds like I wouldn't like them very much.

Are there any readily available keyboards that feel better than even Cherry MX Greens, especially in China?

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>>58675771
>everything you just said

are you even fucking aware that the RAMA M65-A has a two piece case with one part milled of solid aluminfuckinginium and another of nylon in order to allow the motherfucking underlighting to show through? Along with a fucking custom weight that is installed on the case.

The wide-ass EXTENTE OF YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE does not have that.

>>58675793
Heavy actuation keyboards aren't popular in general.

>>58675826
So Cherry MX Greens are still my best bet?

They feel so damn good....

>>58675771
who cares how expensive it is, morons will lap it up anyway. they could have charged another $100 and they would have made the same amount of sales

>>58675815
Wow you really just are not getting it.

Do I need to make a big flashing gif saying "I AM NOT ATTACKING THE RAMA'S PRICING" for you?

As far as I am aware, the Exent also has all that, yet it is $100. This is not an attack on the Rama's pricing, which is what I would expect a large, complex, milled, multi-part piece to cost. This is a question of how the Exent can achieve the same at such a cheap price. Even cheaper than a lot of chink customs. This is not an attack on the Rama's pricing.


This is not an attack on the Rama's pricing.


This is not an attack on the Rama's pricing.

>>58675884
>$100
Oops should be $100 less, it's not that cheap.

aside from ebay and gumtree, where should a UKfag go to sell a model m?

>>58675884
>As far as I am aware, the Exent also has all that,

I just told you it didn't have half the shit that the M65 does

??????????are you a cunt for the sake of being a cunt???????

>>58675894
>>58675884
>>58675815
>>58675771
>>58675074
>>58673616
>chink made garbage
>over $50
I laugh.

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>>58675914
What is this, if not a custom milled metal top, with a custom milled plastic underglow diffuser bottom, plus other milled parts such as the foot?

>>58675927
>having to care about price
oh pal I am l m a o 'ing right now

>>58661564
Recommend me a 65% keyboard then fuccboi.

>>58675945
TADA68 if you like cheap quality.

EXENT if you like geekhack a e s t h e t i c

>>58661699
Which Ducky is that anon.

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>>58675941
>not wanting to pay money to chinks
>thinks this makes me poor

>>58675971
What's wrong with chinks

They deserve to be able to afford rice too

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Guys, why don't you love highlight?

>>58675981
I played the game of giving chinks more money than they deserved because I thought they couldn't be incompetent at everything.

I lost.

>>58675957
I said keyboard not overpriced bezel kit.

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>>58675939
M65-A aka Ramabae65 $210 w/ Nylon Base
+
PCB $40.00

VERSUS

- Exent Basic Kit: $180 (inclusive of housing, plate and PCB)
- 12 degree masterrace polished stainless steel feet: $35

So far we're at a $35 dollar difference. Where's the rest of this gouging supposedly happening?

>>58675793
IBM model M. You can find a bunch of them on Taobao

>>58675911
Deskthority marketplace

>>58676003
Chinks are the yellow jew. They believe if they rip you off it is your fault for being stupid enough to fall for it.

>>58676021
>ayy b let's make a 65% that's as big as a full size keyboard, what a fucking brilliant idea

>>58676021
You're being very defensive about this. Not once did I say or even imply that gouging was involved. And the difference isn't $35, it's $70 (and not the $100 I said earlier either). To compare like to like, you don't add unnecessary extras like getting the optional extra 12 degree foot instead of the 8 degree one the base package comes with.

>>58676074
You would have loved the old 60% Model Fs and Apple keyboards

>>58669488
duck orion

>>58676078
> you don't add unnecessary extras like getting the optional extra 12 degree foot instead of the 8 degree one the base package comes with

Every photo with a foot attached to plastic back is the 12 degree foot, so far as I can tell.
Can you point to anything saying otherwise?

>>58661455
Do you always eat like a pig or only in your basement?

>>58661887
lol bro. I looked at that auction last week.
Schweine layout set me off, as well as that weardly looking, slim cable, how is it in RL?

>>58675411
Fuck, this is great. Just about 8 eur for 60 switches. Thanks

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>>58676193
Only when I'm at work actually

"Work"

>>58676346
Then it's the same as me. Crumbs everywhere.
At home I have plates.

>tfw bought a ducky one with white backlighting and vortex pbt caps

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>>58676757
>tfw sent off ducky shine 4 with vortex pbt in the mail today

I hope anon will love it like I did

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Are there any custom board kits that allow bigass enters and 1u backspaces? blease resbond

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What the hell is this abomination, and what were they thinking?

>>58676837
How is the tomoko? I feel like I hate the floating key design, but it maybe be just that I hate Reds

just got an ikbc c87. did i fuck up?

>>58676915
that's dope af

having it look more like real marble would be even cooler.

>>58676837
No.

>>58676915
Alright, I just found a set of caps for my incoming fission.

Thanks anon.

>>58676924
It's alright, but it's the only mechanical keyboard I've owned/used so I can't really compare it to anything.

-Keycaps are ASS and will start showing wear within the first week of use.
-Switches feel nice, but they're Cherry MX clones and I can't compare them to anything.
-Multimedia functions on the Function keys are excellent on a Windows machine, although I'm not sure if they would work on a GNU+Linux machine
-Standard key sizes/layout so switching keycaps is e z.
-Although the floating key design looks nice, it's also a hazard for wires to get caught in. I've also experienced having to dump my entire rucksack because my left arrow key got popped off by something.
-Made in C H I N A
tl;dr it's alright for a ~38USD keyboard, but I wish I had gotten something else. I would only recommend it to n00bs (like me) who are skeptical about dropping 80USD+ on a keyboard.

>>58677029
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thank you.

>>58676915
I kinda like the effect but OEM profile and only standard layout support kills it for me

>>58677090
Sorry anon, big ass enters just aren't popular with enthusiasts since they're very very non-standard and have near non-existent third party support.

>>58676837
Just to clarify, do you mean the true 1.5u+2.25u big ass enter, or the 1.5u+1.25u ISO enter? If the former, there really is nothing but you could just take a programmable ANSI layout board, combine the Enter and \| keycaps somehow and program \| to do nothing. If the latter, most custom keyboards support that.

>>58676021
>Small form factor board
>Those giant bezels

Why? It defeats the entire purpose of a small form factor and looks like shit.

>>58677302
It's for the sort of people who think it looks good and care more about aesthetics than functionality.

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Second GH60 build with gat blues is finished

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>>58677360
And here's with the LEDs off. Pretty happy with how this build turned out in the end.

Are Romer-G switches a meme? I pretty much only play games and like my Cherry Reds.

>>58677429
They're the biggest meme switch ever.

When the biggest design priority was MUH RGB LIGHTING rather than being a good switch, you know it's shit.

>>58677429
it feels like your normal membrane logitech keyboard. i tried it in best buy

>>58677441
Can't they be both? The short actuation distance and low resistance is tempting. The lighting is going to be turned off anyway.

>>58677579
Generally not, with Topre appearing to be the one exception - although it was designed to be a good switch first, and just happened to have a clear path down the middle of the switch for light to go through.

>>58657360
Looks like what happens when someone doesn't take care of their shit

>>58677656
They're not bad but I guess most people here would prefer something more plain like a Leopold

>>58677656
>>58677678

Why didn't you guys well me it was cheap shit**

my bad..

Feels so uneven compared to my old ducky.

>>58677698
Make use of that return period and get a Leopold

>>58677698
people shit on das here all the time

they're a $160 keyboard with lower build quality and worse keycaps than a $110 ducky one, but you get ~dedicated media keys~ and a big red knob

>>58677716
>>58677678

Already booked for a collection to sent it back. It's a right steaming pile of shit. I would get a Leopold buy can't find anyone who stocks them in the UK, unless anyone knows one.

>>58677809
I think you can get them from mykeyboard.eu. I think it's just eight quid shipping to the UK and you don't have to pay customs.

Redpill me on gateron switches

>>58677851
cheaper than cherry and not noticeably worse or better

much cheaper than cherry

seriously, so much cheaper

>>58677842
>>58677809
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/mechanical-keyboards_3/
Most of them are out of stock but they might have what you want and you could always ask about the others

>>58677851
Everything good about Cherry switches but better. Smoother, not scratchy, more tactile, yet much cheaper. You can get 65 for £18 from AliExpress.

>>58677851
some say the plastic makes them better because it almost oily and non gritty.

Never tried them, though. About to buy a batch.

Now that you mention it...

I've tried cherry browns and they feel like shit. Clears too, I don't like it.

Are there any worthwhile gateron tactiles other than purple? If not I'll just get blues.

>>58677862
>not noticeably worse or better
The difference is definitely noticeable on the Gateron Reds, They seriously feel much smoother than Cherrys.

>>58677885
Never tried them myself but maybe buy like a 4 pack of gat browns and try them out

>>58677851
Beat the shit out of cherry in just about every regard.

They have slightly more wobble, but you don't really notice that unless you compare them side by side with cherries.

>>58677930
the wobble is ridiculously bad

it moves like half an inch on every keycap almost straight to one side

>>58677851
cherry click is better

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>>58677930
Only thing is that the Gateron Blues are much louder than the Cherry blues (I have both). But I feel that the improved tactile feedback makes up for it, I guess. I'd just never use these around others.

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>>58677963
Are you referring to zealios?

And I'm really certain that they do not have a wobble of 12mm to one side.

>>58677963
I have Gateron Reds and Blues and the wobble is no worse than my Cherry counterparts... which ones do you have and when did you buy them? I bought mine pretty recently

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/150-keys-PBT-White-Radium-vulture-Perfect-Arc-Spherical-Keycap-Cherry-MX-switch-keycaps-for-Wired/32778268138.html?scm=1007.13441.37946.0&amp;pvid=588f410b-9f51-4688-b4d3-f2a194a3e887&amp;tpp=1

>150 caps set
>still no stepped caps lock
Dammit you chinks

>>58677993
whats wrong with that keyboard in the back

>>58678042
Greens, I got them within the last year

>>58678055
AliExpress seller sent me the keycaps in the wrong layout. The proper ones should be here tomorrow.

>>58677851
First, it's cheaper and smoother than cherry. Second, it's miles better than every other cherry clone.

>>58678063
Maybe the quality control has improved since then

>>58678076
or maybe they vary from batch to batch or even switch to switch. wouldn't put it past chink quality

>>58678054
fuck, that looks so comfortable to type on

>>58676924
I bought an unused one off a guy from craigslist $30. Even for the original price, very impressed. Metal plate, rubber feet that can extend and are still rubber, nice knockoff switches that have a more noticeable tactile bump than Kailh blues. Would recommend as a starter board, or as a second/third if you wanted to try the different switches/size.

>>58678150
>a more noticeable tactile bump than Kailh blues

Wait, so what switch is it?

>>58678111
Those are Chinese clones based off the popular Penumbra set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz5zcRogFfg

>>58677842

Anyone got any more Leopold vendors for the UK? Would anyone recommend Filco keyboards?

>>58678210
it seems like the chinks improved on it

>>58678183
Fug I can't remember, it's some other knockoff. I can let you know in like an hour

>>58678183
>>58678362
Outemu iirc

>>58678371
Interesting. I'd buy outemu switches if they were cheaper then the rest

>>58678362
Isnt it zorro?

>>58676000
How do you use F keys?

>>58678419
Layers :^)

>>58659624
Damn, thats a nice math keyboard.

>>58678183
>>58678371
I'd bet its Outemu. I used them when I tried to build my first board because I knew I'd fuck up. Super cheap.

>>58678399
They are.

>>58678419
Fn+number row

I swear this question gets asked every time someone posts a 60%, you'd think the answer would be obvious

>>58678435
>They are.

The 10 pack seems to be more expensive than Gateron on TaoBao, if I'm not mistaken

https://world.taobao.com/item/534368414363.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.dY5Dy6#detail

>>58678244
Filcos are up there in terms of build quality too

>>58678244
Not really. They're not bad quality but the caps are among the worst and they still charge way too much. They used to get away with it cause there weren't that many alternatives back in the day but now they are and they haven't gone down with their prices at all.

best switches for typing/programming? looking to get my first mechanical keyboard for around $100-150 USD, amerifat btw.

>>58678604
Get a keyboard made in America like a Unicomp classic or ultraclassic if space is an isssue.
There are no other keyboards that offer better quality for the same price. You can get them on amazon, or on Unicomps own website

>>58678483
>$17.60 for 100 switches
>meanwhile cherry greens are about $60 for 100 switches
You can also get Outemu cheaper in a drop. I got about 90 of them from a friend in China for $10.

>>58678690
Well, I just found this~

https://world.taobao.com/item/541610671325.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.dY5Dy6#detail

6$ for 100. The thing is, I can't read the rest of this shit. It looks like it takes 3 months to ship, but I'm not sure.

>>58678653
I want a Unicomp but I'm skeptical about quality and I have no idea where to buy replacement keycaps for buckling springs. I use a Model M at home and I don't want to bring it in to work.

>>58678764
Unicomp build quality is the same as the old IBMs. They use a bit less plastic, but thats it. Everything is done on the same machinery. It is a modern Model M. Unicomp also sells custom keycaps for your model M if you want some. I know someone got an all black set just to match his monochrome battle station. If you already have a model M then why not try out something like matias qc. They are more tactile then cherry switches while also being quieter then rubber domes, that way your co workers wont kill you due to the loud noise

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So, let me just get something straight:

If I build a pcb mounted keyboard, the pcb itself needs to have the layout that I intend for the KB. Correct?

If I laser cut my own plate for a plate mount, I could then have any layout I wanted, depending on the standard keysizes + handwiring. Correct?

>>58678899
That's correct.

>>58678907
Thank you. And fuck me in the ass, I have to get a PCB for a 75%

>>58678899
Yes. With one small caveat that stabiliser wires for non-standard spacebars (anything from 3u to 6u basically) are almost non-existent so if you want one of those you'll have to grab a 6.25u/7u Cherry-style stabiliser wire and shorten+bend it to size yourself.

>>58678923
Those do exist. Chyna sells some for like 15-20 bucks

>>58679150
>Magicforce keyboards
>47€

>Every PCB I see
>above 35€

I thought it would be cheaper... where do you find those?

Yo, seiden.tech

Weren't you gonna start milling PCBs? How much would one cost?

I'm from Europe btw.

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>>58679689
Yeh, would prolly cost 15 bucks or so since the material is cheap as shit.

if you want a numpad, I can look into milling you that, otherwise you'll have to wait until it's warmer and I've gotten around to building a properly-sized CNC mill.

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>>58678183
Just checked, all wrong guesses. "Switch master". I knew I remembered it being some chink shit name

>>58679774
aww fuck. I'm >>58679463

And I needed a PCB for a 60%. I want a cheap as possible though and I can't order above 22€ or customs will fuck my anus and my wallet will cry.

Well, I'll keep researching. If I happen to still be looking for a PCB when you can mill one, I'll ask you. Give /mkg/ a shout when you can mill some, I'm sure other people would jump at the opportunity as well.

>>58679811
have you checked out falbatech.pl gh60 pcb

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>>58679811
I think you could get a 60% pcb fairly cheap if you layout it yourself, could even accommodate for a teensy or some other controller board.
I was looking into having PCBs for a TKL printed; EasyEDA is quite damn cheap it seems, though it'll probably still be above your budget since the minimum order quantity is five or so iirc. Still cheap as shit tho.

But yes, once I get around to milling PCBs you can be sure that everyone in this thread will know about it.

>>58679819
30€... a bit too much, specially considering shipping. I guess I can't get lower than that though... Just seems stupid how some keyboards can cost 30~50€ and this shit is almost that price

>>58679856
I don't understand shit about PCBs, layers, etc. I'm still getting into this. Do you happen to have any resources to explain all this?

>>58679857
if you're really cash strapped you could buy their 15€ GH60 plate and handwire

you don't really need the pcb, it just makes things easier, especially if you want backlighting too

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>>58679884
I used target 3001 when I started (not to say that I know a whole lot more other than how to do a basic-ass layout now). They've got a whole wiki of tutorials on how to use it, it's quite straightforward business actually

http://www.ibfriedrich.com/en/index.html

Also what the other anon said; you can't get cheaper than handwiring.

>>58679899
>>58679915

>you don't really need the pcb
>you could buy their 15€ GH60 plate and handwire

Yeah... that's what I mean about "not understanding shit". I thought I needed a PCB. I don't mind the work as long as it's cheap. Thanks, I'll look into it.

>>58679926
Handwiring is really simple business

join the /mkg/ group on telegram or just hit me up next time around here and I'll explain it to you in detail

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEGEghPcd5X2gGVwmw

>tfw the 2x3x4mm chinkshit LEDs and SIP sockets I ordered for my Ducky Shine 3 have shipped
Feels good.

>>58679926
ok, basic rundown

the pcb is basically just a flat, solid collection of wires integrated into a board, with holes at the ends of the wires for whatever components need to be plugged in

you can completely replace it with standard wire and diodes soldered right onto the switches, then all connected up to your controller

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Where can I get the CHEAPEST typerwriter like keycaps?

>>58679984
I'll need to be extra careful not to fuck it up, I'm guessing. That might be the way I'll do it, i need to learn anyway.