Trump will end net neutrality and his minions will defend him

>an elite group of rich people holds ownership of the world's key resources and this is a bad thing
>we should solve this by legally enforcing their monopoly

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Spam is bannable. You know what to do, folks.

>>58654490
i wonder if pol really thought this one through.

>>58654490
Let me ask you something OP.

Have you taken into consideration why they want to end net neutrality?


I personally think it wouldn't be such a bad thing if there were more ISP providers that had to compete with each other.

That said, even in the current situation I'm not worried in the slightest.
If there was an actual serious threat to how the internet functioned you can expect important people to start yelling about it.

>>58654594
>implying /pol/ can be taken seriously

>>58654594
>/pol/
>thinking
pick one and only one

internet did fine before it, it will do fine without it again

the only people who will be fucked over are those in areas with only one internet provider, and they're already screwed anyway

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>>58654490
This is literally the OP.

>>58654791
Nigger r u srs
Net Neutrality was a reaction to flagrant abuses by ISPs in the early days of the internet. Things were not "fine" without NN, things were terrible, with competitive companies being forced out of business by megacorporations looking to make the most money possible.

>>58654823
>competitive
>get forced out by competition
>socialist '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''economics''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

>>58654823
>competitive companies being forced out of business
if they were competitive they'd still be in business
>megacorporations looking to make the most money possible.
making the most money possible is what all businesses do anon

:^)

>>58654817
>her
did you just assume their gender?

>>58654846
>>58654858
They didn't get forced out by competition, they got forced out by practices now illegal because they were uncompetitive.

There was a company offering 5MBps internet service in 1992. They were bought out by Bell South because Bell South owned the lines and forced them to pay massive amounts of money to move their data along the lines, to the point they couldn't make a profit.
Bell South then ceased their high speed service in favor of more Dial Up.

This is now illegal, because of Net Neutrality, because megacorporations don't have to be competitive when they can just throw money a at a problem until it goes away.

>>58654888
>charging for use of the infrastructure you own
>amoral and should be illegal

o im laffin

>>58654888
That's illegal because of antitrust laws championed by fucking Teddy Roosevelt. Open a history book for once in your life.

>>58654930
You're retarded, I bet you think Time Warner Cable making Netflix pay them a fee to stop throttling their streaming service was fine and dandy.
Same shit happened there, they were charging exorbitant prices to use the lines specifically designed to make it unprofitable, and it worked. It's now illegal to do specifically that, you can't show bias against specific data, all data has to be treated equally. Bell South was being biased, they were part of the reason Net Neutrality even came into being.

>>58654946
Except it happened and still happens. Netflix three years ago. A lot of shit is technically illegal but corporations get away with it. Like Comcast making it illegal for new ISPs to open up in many cities they are present in.
Your history books are irrelevant if you don't learn from them, laws aren't worth the paper they're printed on if you don't enforce them.

American ISPs do not obey the laws Teddy, my favorite president, put forth. They've successfully lobbied the US into a position where they have us by the balls. Net Neutrality is the only thing keeping AT&T from making me pay an extra 40 a month to access 4chan.

I'd love a world where the US doesn't need net neutrality. But we do, desperately. We're not Poland, we're the US.
I can choose from AT&T and Charter. Those are literally my only two providers, and I'm lucky enough to be able to choose two. Most of the neighboring cities can only choose between AT&T or Charter, not both. Or you know, DSL, but who the fuck still wants DSL?

For the umpteenth time
We never had net neutrality to begin with

>>58655009
>laws aren't worth the paper they're printed on if you don't enforce them
Absolutely. And whose job was it to enforce the laws for the last 8 years?
Hint: not Paul Ryan.

>>58654594
Yes, I imagine hillary would have been way better right

>>58654868
sure shit did, dyke.

>>58655009
I don't know how you can spend time arguing with retards but I guess someone has to do it. It's amazing how people are willing to defend everything someone does when they are in the delusion that they were backed in a corner and that someone is their preceived messiah.

>>58655117
What are you implying here?

If it's a cheap shot at Obama, okay, fine, but I never liked Obama. And either way it's beside the point. Net Neutrality is one of the only things we as a consumer have left. I'd like to believe that we will maintain the status quo at least but Republicans now control Congress and the Presidency and it's Republicans that want to get rid of Net Neutrality.
I am thrilled Republicans are in control instead of Democrats, but that doesn't mean I want consumer rights to be repealed for no benefit to myself.
That's really what it comes down to for me, what do I gain from repealing Net Neutrality? I can think of a lot of things I lose but nothing I gain, and the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Now more than ever is it worth contacting your representative. Net Neutrality is not a concrete thing at all, but we could make it so. Trump says he's ant establishment, I supported him because of it, now I want to see him do anti establishment things.
Like concrete internet rights.

Maybe he just ignores NN entirely, well that would leave us now in the same state, which isn't a bad state per say, but it's not a safeguard against the future, and I don't think Comcast is going to stop lobbying for the right to charge people whatever they want for 2mbps anytime soon.

You give an inch they take a mile, they've done it to the internet, they've done it for guns, they've done it for copyright. I say now's the best time we've had in 30 years to fight back, to make them give an inch and us take a mile. Trump's already pledged to kill TPP, let's kill the AWB and Throttling while we're at it.

>>58655143
It's not about arguing, it's about making people think. It's about educating people.
You can't change someone's opinion, on you can change your own opinion and people rarely leave their bubble.
I get that leftists are using this net neutrality scare to rile up anti Trump sentiment but the more people they educate about net neutrality the better. It's nothing but good for us as consumers, and the fact anyone is willing to get rid of it means they're either simply uneducated on the subject or a paid advocate. The only people getting rid of net neutrality is good for is the ISP CEOs and their shareholders. It's a net loss for everyone else.

We've got a real chance assuming Trump isn't full of shit to actually get back consumer rights in this country. They've been on a slow slide for decades now, and that anyone would want to continue to see them degrade for ANY reason is inexcusable.

>>58654599
>Have you taken into consideration why they want to end net neutrality?
>I personally think it wouldn't be such a bad thing if there were more ISP providers that had to compete with each other.

That has nothing to do with net neutrality. What you will see is less online services able to compete with each other.

I see this confusion again and again. Nobody who actually understands net neutrality is against it, except for those who will profit from it.

>>58655259
You have to think in the first place, why is net neutrality necessary to stop the things you perceive to be wrong with the current ISP market? What would regulating the industry do but raise the barrier for entry for potential competitors? You need to be thinking of reducing regulations that harm business, not creating more.

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>>58655348
NET NEUTRALITY DOES NOT HARM NEW COMPANIES

It's the only thing keeping big ISPs from forcing them out in the first place! You just don't understand what net neutrality is do you? Please, explain to me what net neutrality does to harm ISPs in any way except to prevent them from gouging you from every spare cent in your wallet??/?

Jesus fucking CHRIST, you are the EXACT kind of sucker they've sold this to. Net Neutrality ISN'T REGULATIONS. It's restrictions that keep companies from being able to throttle bandwidth to sites they don't want you to access. You've swallowed their spiel hook line and sinker. They're LYING to you. Net Neutrality "hurts" their business because it keeps them from snuffing out their competitors in the crib. Consider why you have to pay five times as much money a month for internet speeds ten times slower than in Poland.

There's absolutely nothing bad about Net Neutrality for you as a consumer. Literally nothing, and getting rid of it would not encourage new ISPs in the slightest. It would only further the monopolies of the big 5.

>>58655412
>restrictions
LITERALLY REGULATIONS you douchebag

>>58655130
At least we can agree on that.

>>58655432
Regulations that protect both you and new ISPs, you're implying they're harmful, restrictive things. They're anything but.
They are rules that came into being because of how big companies monopolized the FUCK out of the US, and got us into this situation in the first place. They are the only reason you have access to two shitty providers instead of one, although I say that as a guess, because the vast majority of America only has access to one high speed provider.
I cannot stress enough how important net neutrality is. If we lose it, we fucking lose. If you had the choice between 5-6 different ISPs like in Poland or South Korea or Norway we wouldn't need Net Neutrality, but hit is the USA. Big companies already killed most of the competition, unless you want the government to forcibly break up companies like Comcast (a wet dream of mine, ohhhh such a beautiful dream) into a bunch of smaller companies then we absolutely NEED net neutrality.

>>58654490
Good

>The government directly inferring with the internet is a good thing goyim!
>There is nothing suspicious at all about all the botnets like Google, M$, Apple, facebook, etc all supporting more government intervention in the internet!

I want the retarded shills to drown on their own drool already.

>>58654594
I wonder if you have ever thought something through in your entire life.

>>58654791
It's just like the retards who think without Obongocare millions will die in the streets even though we did just fine without it and Obongocare has only existed for four years.

>>58655538
I'm sorry but you obviously don't understand the first thing about economics. For one you don't "have ISPs", and for another it's regulations on infrastructure that cause there to only be one or two active in an area. Change that and competition will go up by itself.

>>58655130
Yes, actually. She didn't want to destroy net neutrality

>>58654490
who cares

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>>58655632
Oh my god you're serious.

Do you even, I don't. What. What.
Competition can only arise in competitive environments. Net Neutrality is the last thing making ISPs competitive.
>you don't "have ISPs"

What in the fuck man. Do you even know what you're talking about? Please, stop quoting Economics 101 here, this is the real world, not your college class room. WE DON'T HAVE COMPETITION!
COMCAST HAS LITERALLY MADE COMPETITION ILLEGAL IN SEVERAL CITIES.

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW, HOW, GETTING RID OF NET NEUTRALITY WILL MAKE COMPETITION GO UP BY ITSELF??:??

PLEASE
You're just spouting the same fucking talking points they tried to sell us on. But it's a fucking lie, how does getting rid of NN encourage competition? Regulation can be pretty damn good sometimes, like that regulation that keeps companies from hiring thugs to beat up protesting workers, or those regulations that make it illegal for Charter to cut off my internet if I browse AT&T Internet Packages.

I cannot stress this enough, you do not know what net neutrality is. You've drank their koolaid.
Prove to me you know what you're talking about, stop spouting the same shit their lobbyist do to Congress, explain to me how removing consumer protection laws benefits the consumer?

>>58655711
>COMCAST HAS LITERALLY MADE COMPETITION ILLEGAL IN SEVERAL CITIES.
TAKE IT TO AN APPEALS COURT YOU NON-AMERICAN
Also learn economics as well as basic law

>>58654599
>I personally think it wouldn't be such a bad thing if there were more ISP providers that had to compete with each other.


Yes that would be a good thing but where will those other ISPs magically come from?

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>>58655615
>because one bad disagreable thing happened once all humans should be doomed for all eternity

>>/bible/

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>>58654490
Anyone who ironically supports getting rid of net neutrality on 4chan needs to be reminded of pic related with a good ban. Anyone who unironically supports getting rid of net neutrality deserves to be sounded with a steak knife.

>>58655725
I can't fucking sue Comcast, I don't even live in any of these cities. Thankfully.
>non-American
Buddy if you didn't have an actual argument you could have stopped here. I fucking love my country, that's why I don't want to give corporations more power than they've already had.

Actually look into this stuff, it's not capitalism what they're doing. I'm a rabid capitalist, but I cannot fucking support the corporate greed going on right now. I promise you, this isn't some government boogeyman, this is corporations trying to take your rights away. They've already succeeded in a ton of areas, and they will continue to as long as people like you put their fingers in your ears and shout la la la.

>>58655777
Corporations literally cannot take rights away. Only government can do that. If a corporation has a monopoly somewhere, it means that a government is backing it up. It's called corruption. Literally take it to an appeals court. The EFF probably has lawyers that will do it pro-bono if you ask them.

>>58655330
>>58655328
>>58655143
>Innovation stifled because companies don't want to invest in better technologies that they can't charge for preferred access fees
>Ajit argues that due to regulation laws, internet broadband could become taxed in a similar way to telephoney, requiring the people to pay 4-11 billion more
>Net neutrality will kill small businesses due to state property and general receipts tax
>Net neutrality can't exist. There's a reason why companies pay mega bucks for better servers to gain an advantage over competitors. Is the solution to this to start socialising server access?
But my favourite argument is that it's not fucking necessary. This is the same thing Gary Becker said. ISPs are doing fine and growth is occuring. You can't fucking jump to regulation with this huge lack of compelling examples of requiring net neutrality. Comcast throttled P2P this time... Okay? Let's fuck up everything now with regulation?

>>58655632
Here in the Netherlands we have strict NN rules. Also the xDSL and fibre networks are open for all competitors for a fair price, even though the network was mostly build by one of the biggest providers.
End result: The Netherlands has one the best internet speeds and infrastructure in the world

>>58655813
You're right, it's corruption, and corruption runs rampant.
>pro bono
You have a hilarious view of the world man. I bet you think you could sue Disney, yeah I bet you've just got lawyers lining up to sue Disney right?

This is the real world, and suing Comcast is a one way ticket to 10 years of court and legal fees you'll never be able to pay in 5 lifetimes.

>>58655656
Instead she would want war with Russia, great alternative

>>58655832
That's called confirmation bias.

>>58655330
>Nobody who disagrees with me actually understands what they're arguing
Fucking epic bro, I can see you have an open mind.

>>58655726
Once the invisible hand is done jerking itself off it'll magic up some competition you'll see.

>>58655847
>
I'm just saying that that government infringement doesn't mean the whole market will go to shit as people seem to be implying here

>>58655819
Nobody's saying we need more regulations, the whole point of keeping net neutrality is to just do that. Keep it. Growth is occuring, ISPs are some of the most profitable companies out there, why do we need to enable them even more, much less in a way that will shit on the consumer.

It all sounds good, oh if we deregulate that'll just encourage more businesses! Well, you'll be hard pressed to find an American example where deregulation led to increased competition. All it's done historically is led to increased corporate profits.

>>58655819
Oh and there's zero reason why you can't have a law that's about regulating ISPs from interfering with their customers data transfers without all the other shit.

It's odd how proponents of the regulation never mention the other half of it.

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>>58655896
Because opponents of the regulation want that part removed specifically.

>>58655656
Her stance on Russia was going to end up with us all dying in nuclear hellfire. At least this way we'll probably live long enough to see it get reinstated with the next president probably.

>>58655867
I know what you're saying, but you're living in a completely different economic system to America. When the government de-facto owns every company, they can do whatever they want with anything they want, and as long as the GDP is high enough, it works. The problem is America has a lot of niggers and rednecks.

>>58655933
How in the fuck does that justify allowing corporate throttling, exactly?
Like, this isn't an argument about police brutality or gun argument, it's about respecting data rights, and you bring up nogs and Cletus?

>>58654490
>being surprised the party of free market capitalism wants an end to regulation on something
dont get me wrong, im not one of the folks that percieve the hand of the market as some kind of magical entity, but if you genuinely believe the free market conquers all then this is the obvious thing to do.

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>>58655877
>Nobody's saying we need more regulations
>you'll be hard pressed to find an American example where deregulation led to increased competition

>>58655953
I'm saying we can't have the government run everything; there are too many drains on the system for that work. As for network throttling, you repeal any laws that are preventing more ISPs to be in the area, and the company will die as its customers migrate to someone who doesn't do that.

>>58655966
Those two aren't even close to mutually exclusive, can you not read?
Here, I'll spell it out for you.

>nobody says we need more regulation (in regards to the internet)
>getting rid of regulation has not benefited us much if at all

Like, those are two completely different arguments, talking about two completely different things.

This is Fascism

Trump owns shares in Telcomms

He seeks to profit from the presidency

>>58655995
Yes but nobody here is advocating for the government to control the internet, so I again fail to understand your argument.
And either way, it's not like the US hasn't done the exact same thing in the past on an even larger scale. In the early 2000s the US Government wrote a check totaling billions of dollars to major ISPs to improve the internet infrastructure.

Unsurprisingly, they didn't actually use most of it to modernize and the infrastructure remained equally poor, which is why the US went from offering similar internet speeds to the rest of the world to falling behind compared to pretty much all of Europe except Ukraine and Russia.

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>>58654490
>all the idiots arguing against net neutrality in this thread
4chan needs biblical levels of chemo at this point.

>>58654490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwJSnSOQWOg

>>58656060
Its far too late for that now.

>>58656052
Who though it was a good idea to give money to monopoly people and tell them to do something good with it?

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>>58656006
You fucking retard. You poor little fucking retard..

You can't just say "we're not pushing more regulation" while literally proposing a regulation.

You're also trying to argue net neutrality without having a fucking clue about the antitrust and AT&T. No wonder why you keep making the most retarded mistakes about how net neutrality will apparently fix things they don't change but are covered by antitrust laws already.

Get a brain, you euroshitter.

>>58656092
The same people who wrote the check after lobbyist told them to write the check.

>>58656112
Who coincidentally is the same person who signed the bill saying nobody but AT&T can use those phone poles.

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>>58656060
Notice how the mobile users start pushing off desktop users

>>58655130
god you people are so fucking retarded. any time Trump does something bad you just fall back on 'B-BUT HILLARY.. RUSSIA WAR :((". fucking idiots

>>58656092
It was the early 2000's who do you think was behind it?

>>58656100
You are the only one failing to understand, and you seem to have completely failed to understand what I'm arguing.
I'm arguing we KEEP net neutrality. That's all I've argued for, for cementing it into one big law instead of a bunch of little laws as it currently is.
That's not adding regulation, that's not proposing anything that doesn't already exist.
You're a dumbass not listening to me. Re read my posts because you've utterly failed on a first attempt apparently.

>>58656029
>This is Fascism
no, its not
stop making asinine assertions about your political opponents and go read a book

>>58654490
What was passed was not real net neutrality to be honest. It was called that but in reality it was a package written by Google to protect Google's business model. Plain and simple. The idiots on the internet (you people) were stupid enough to think it was neutral because some lawyer at Google decided to call it net neutrality. And now you know why Google spent more time with the president than any other person or entity other than the vice president.

>>58655752
And Google wrote the current 'net neutrality' regulations. Pro tip, just because some government agency calls something a name does not mean it is that. Please read the regulation, it is pretty much a protect the Google business model scheme. They didn't spend billions lobbying for nothing.

>>58655832
The Netherlands is dense and the size of New Jersey.

>>58655130
You dont gave to imagine, she posted all of her policy proposals. She was for NN. She definitely would not be lubing herself up to skullfuck the free Internet right now like Comrade Trump is doing.

>>58656248
>>58656286
>no actual arguments about how it's bad
>seriously opposing something just because a group you don't like supports it
Are you a fucking child?

>>58656220
A puppet of the International Corporations is running USA

That is fascism,

Trump says he is not a globalist but he is a liar. He owns stock in companies which will benefit for the end of net neutrality so they can wall off bits of the internet

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>>58654594

>>58656327
>>58656286
>>58656248
I'm hardly a fan of Google, and it's definitely worrying that any one group has a bunch of power over the internet, but what exactly is "a protect the Google business model scheme" and why is that a bad thing?

Google gets its money by people browsing the world wide web. Among other things, but that's one of their chief sources of revenue. It's why they, alone with basically all other internet search services, are pro net neutrality as throttling is potential lost money for them.
So yes, Goggle did it for their benefit, but benefit to them is a free internet anyone can use to access whatever they want. What about that is bad for me?

>>58654490
who cares. stop greentexting and posting pajeet technica. how do you think this will afect you. what did you expect to happen. what would you like to see?

nonconstructive sissy retard degenerate post

>>58656369
>australia
Not helping your case here.

>>58656369
>australian
Of fucking course

>>58656367
>A puppet of the International Corporations is running USA
>That is fascism,
no its not. instead of talking nonsense about things you dont understand on the internet, go read a book on actual fascism, ideally written by actual fascists, and then go read their political opponents writings on them.

nobody is going to listen to what you say if you cant properly articulate the things you say.

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>>58654594
>/pol/ish intellectuals

>>58656369
See >>58656060, more than half the posters on this site at this time came here because of the election. There's no hope for 4chan at this point. Hiroyuki is a piece of human trash.

>>58656325
New Jersey is actually half the size of Holland and has about 15% more density, and yet has shittier, slower, and more expensive internet.

>>58656060
>>58656126
Gamergate was the Reddit's Eternal Summer
>oldfags
>newfags
>chanologyfags
>eternal summer
>reddit diaspora
>gamergate
What do we label this latest flood?

>>58656418
thats part of the reason at least. took me a while to come around to the idea of chanboards someday no longer being a part of my life, ive been on them for 8 years now, but to be honest its probably for the best.

>>58656468
you dont, because its a waste of time. this is the userbase now, nothing you do or say will change that, this is how its always been.

>>58656060
Actually wasn't the late bump in 2014 because of the celebrity nude leaks?

>>58656468
Trumpfags? I want to go back to old naming conventions.

>>58656482
according to moot, problem is they kinda occurred at the same time

wouldnt surprise me if both were true though, and thats coming from someone who was pro-GG

>>58656499
it aint just trump senpai, the reputation of this place drives every edgy 15 year old here regardless of their politics, and the election was yet more advertisement to them that this place exists. ive got a 16 year old brother, and half of his friends are at least aware of this place.

>>58656468
Sentient shit, and it isn't just 4chan that's been affected, post quality everywhere has been dive bombing. If you think 4chan is bad, you should look at some of the mainstream subreddits on reddit. Despite all the shit they got for being a circlejerk, post quality there a couple years ago was pretty decent and was higher than it is here currently. Now post quality there is significantly worse than here and is approaching youtube comments tier.

>>58656473
we get dumber and dumber each population explosion tho

>>58656609
>actually knowing what goes on in reddit
As late as five years ago people actively try to hide the fact that they are from reddit

>>58656616
naturally, post quality always trends downwards with increases in userbase. thats why smaller boards tend to be of a much higher quality than faster boards.

>>58654524
First post best fucking post

>>58656060
Net neutrality is literally rebbit

>>58656641
We just attract the wrong kind of people.

>>58656681
yes and no, its really a question of maintaining a certain culture and remaining relatively unknown. this is why smaller chans tend not to deviate from their original culture at quite the same rate as 4chan.

>>58656681
4chan always attracted the "wrong" kind of people. That was the point.
But it was a small community and when you're small you get to know everyone, if not by name them by posting style. It wasn't so much conformity as it was just a lack of things to conform to, except the board topic. That's all changed quite a lot. Some boards are barely even about their intended topic, like /v/. /v/ isn't about video games themselves, it's about (you)s and video game politics.

I dunno where else to go. 4chan I mean, there's no site quite like it, but then, 4chan isn't really 4chan anymore except in the deep dark recesses of boards that have 3 posts per hour.

>>58656629
I was never really a regular there. I just went there on occasion to discuss things happening in the news after the previous site I went to went full echo chamber about 5-6 years ago. I generally left political shit off 4chan.

>>58656709
>maintaining a certain culture
Before, newfags actually lurk to learn the culture. Now they don't care and actually feel entitled to have their imported culture to be imposed as the norm. Sort of like Europe and immigrants.

>>58655656
>>58656326
>Net neutrality is the only important issue
Not trying to act partisan either way, but is that really enough to completely sway your opinion?

>>58654490
Trump 2020, keep America great

>>58656774
t.russian

>>58656729
>I dunno where else to go.
Don't worry, other image boards are pretty shit too

>>58656733
no they didnt, or at least not enough to care

>>58655130
It's shocking how quickly /pol/posting died down after the election. Now posts like this one get 50-50 responses instead of the previous 100% derogatory meme replies. Fascinating, really.

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>>58656807
Maybe I'll just get two jobs and spend every waking moment not eating, pooping or working listening to Beethoven.

>>58656409

Crony Capitalism is fascist

I don't want to read fascist propaganda t.fascist

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>>58656878
(You)

>>58656729
I dropped 4chan about 2 years ago (I'm hanging out here to check out the /ptg/ thread on this board). Like you I had a hard time conceiving of an internet experience without 4chan, it was basically my only form of leisure between the years of 2007 and 2014. But now I can honestly say I don't miss it at all. It was nothing but a time sink and I don't think I ever benefited in any way from being here, beyond the momentary entertainment of posting.

Looking through this thread and seeing people drool over ending net neutrality just because that's Trump's position, only cements in my mind that I made the right choice. There was a time when 4chan understood what net neutrality was and why it was important. All it took to dismantle that was a Milhouse level forced meme entering the white house.

I guess it can't be helped.

>>58656807
This. The next fastest imageboard is 8ch, and politics being shoved into absolutely everything is an even bigger problem there. Other general purpose imageboards end up being much slower than 8ch and being mostly populated by a similar crowd (for example, endchan's top boards are another /pol/ and a dedicated gamergate board). After that you just get into niche imageboards where /g/ gets more posts in a couple hours than all boards on the site get in a week.

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>>58654594
>Having to waste all your 2000MB monthly unapproved site quota on 4chan

Keep up the good fight OP. While idiot drump cultists will lick and kiss anything he does, the reality is the fact that his cabinet is bent on destroying costumer protections and benefits. Currently we are lucky to still have a relatively open, unhindered free Internet--the same that allows memaym morons to post their drivel. However, without net neutrality we will now be subject to arbitrary throttling and restriction of web content for as demanded by profits. If we are to believe that some small, independent site is to enjoy same access and exposure as some mainstream, giant powerhouse--as we must internet a free internet--then we must protect net neutrality.

>>58656918
How do you spend your time now, if you don't mind me asking? I've been spending time here on and off for the past year.

>>58656918
Its nice having all that free time isn't it? So much time to get shit done.

>>58656733
This, it's a generational change
4chan always brought in teenagers but for the last 4 years teenagers have been generation Z idiots raised on social media

The wall is happening and he's not letting refugees in

This is all I wanted,and therefore, I couldn't care less about this shit.

>>58656995
This is going to sound cliche, but I got a job, a girlfriend and hobbies outside of the internet.

I was kind of a shut-in until I graduated college in 2014. That's when I decided to make a change, and getting off 4chan was one of them.

I sometimes post on [spoiler]Reddit[/spoiler], although I already had an account there before deciding to leave 4chan. They've got their own set of problems, as you know. I'm kind of fed up with the culture there too, for different reasons.

Other than that I'm on a couple-three niche web forums that you probably wouldn't care about. Mostly stuff for hobbyist writers.

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>>58657009
Also the stormfronters they've attracted by making /pol/ the new internet alt-right HQ are often complete disgusting normies in all other areas.

4chan is inherently degeneracy.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrydownes/2017/01/24/why-is-the-media-smearing-new-fcc-chair-ajit-pai-as-the-enemy-of-net-neutrality/

>Pai has consistently supported the basic principles of net neutrality—the common sense view that ISPs should not be allowed to block specific legal websites or devices, intentionally slow some traffic to benefit others, misrepresent their network management practices or otherwise behave in conduct long-considered anti-competitive in American law.


>falling for the smear campaign

>>58655858
Except the ISPs don't want to compete with each other. I don't know how you retards think there's some magic hand that's making them do it, they're businesses and them not having competition allows them to control their pricing.
But sure, keep thinking any intervention from the govt. is bad. I'll talk to you in three years when you need Comcast Speed Boost Plus(tm) to access high traffic sites like 4chan. If you can afford it.

>>58657074
I really hope he turns out to surprise us and champion the principle of an open internet the same way Wheeler did before him. But I'm not holding out hope.

>>58654490
>>58654592

The thread, despite being an unpopular opinion on this board, and with sentiment clearly from Reddit, is allowed. The OP is limited to one thread, and not to use the thread for commercial purpose.

Ask a mod, Hiro or >>>/qa/ if you doubt the policy - which applies to all boards.

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I tried to tell you, but you just wouldn't listen.

Miss me yet?

>>58655656
yep that nuclear holocaust sure would have been much better.

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>>58657112
>and with sentiment clearly from Reddit

>>58657077
You have attempted to access http://www.4chan.org.
This is site categorized as "hateful/obscene content" and attempting to access it is against the Comcast terms of service.
For this access attempt, 50 MB has been deducted from your monthly data cap.
Repeated attempts will incur progressively larger penalties, up to and including termination of service.

Thank you for choosing Comcast.

>>58657141
That's the worst case scenario and I still guarantee you that you'll be able to find ways around it. VPNs and Proxies exist for a reason.

>>58657169
What this guys said. I was in turkey and they banned 4chan there. A simply webproxy was enough to bypass it.

>>58657169
>>58657199
Yes, there are ways around it, but why the fuck would you consider giving ISPs that power in the first place?

>>58657169
>3 years later
https://torrentfreak.com/china-ban-unauthorized-vpn-services-in-internet-crackdown-170123/

>>58657199
That's a locational block, that's why you can fool it by spoofing your location via an VPN. Your location wouldn't matter if your ISP is full blocking an entire domain.

>>58657169
>implying VPNS wouldnt be part of some retardedly expensive "SECURITY TIER" package for only 50Shekels more /month

>>58657199
>Implying 4chan won't eventually be banned in all host countries

Banned in UK and Europe for being anti-Islamic
Banned in Australia and Canada for promoting rape culture
Banned in Asia for morally unsound pornographic content
Banned in USA for messing with football again
>Implying they have internet in South/Central America

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>>58657112
Gonna love your tears for the next EIGHT LOOOONG YEARS, Pablo!

HAHAHAHAH

>>58657259
Oh my god.

Brazil has been playing the long con all along.

There will come a day when all of 4chan will be nothing but hues.

>>58656781
Pretty sure Mississippi ain't in Russia

>>58657269
Alabamian here, thanks for being so goddamn terrible.

>>58657260
TPP is probably going to be the only thing Trump does that I fully support.

The wall is going to be a retarded boondoggle.

As for the Dow, it's not like Trump walked onto the trading floor and personally dragged it above 20k. And although the surge is definitely a vote of confidence by business... well, like you said, it's day three. Let's see where we're at on day 365.

>>58656326
>she posted all of her policy proposals
>had a "public" and "private" policy
She would've fucked you over

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>>58657259
wow I just realized we dont have internet here in south america

>>58657365

Do you honestly think the Manhattan billionaire has your best interests at heart?

Trump has his own "private positions" too. I guarantee it. The man literally lives on Wall Street. You couldn't invent someone more entrenched in our broken system than he is.

You're getting fucked either way. Just this time, you won't see it coming.

>>58657355
kys

>>58657410
my

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>>58657398
You fucker I was eating and you made me choke

>>58657131
When you kiss Putin's ass, do you aim for the cheeks or the hole?

>>58654490
enjoy your swift decline into true irrelevancy 'Muritards

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>>58657260

>>58657077
Did you miss the obvious sarcasm in the post you're replying to or am I getting trolled?

>>58657561
If I'm being charitable, the dude you're quoting was just expanding on the sarcasm with a more earnest criticism, not missing the sarcasm and trying to refute the point.

>>58657169
They would block or charge extra for VPN access.

>>58657554
>Come into office right after market took a massive hit
>Take credit for the market correcting itself over the next 4 years
>Take credit for doing literally nothing trade-wise or economic-wise while the free market continues to flourish
Nigga sat in office and did nothing for 8 years, its the only reason people like him.

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>>58657591
>implying

>>58657571
So person with autism who can't doesn't understand sarcasm it is then.

>>58656878
ur mum is fascist

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>>58657554
ahahhahah

check this shit out...


ahahhahahahaahhaahah

enjoy your tears, Obongo shill.

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>>58657259
>UK and Europe
lad, i dont think youve been paying attention much lately

>>58657591
>come into office after market is already working
>take credit for the market trending up like it was prior

Whoever we get is going to fucking clamp down, just a fact of life.

>>58657627
Most of those negative trends seem to have started before Obama even took office.

>healthcare costs
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Without knowing *why* costs went up the chart is meaningless.

I'm in favor of net neutrality.
Yes it is a good thing.
No, it isn't true that we "never had net neutrality"; we did.
Don't allow the /pol/ bots to sway your opinion on the matter. These are the people who thought electing a meme would be a good idea.
Do not allow the FSB/SVR agents to convince you otherwise. They do not understand what freedom means, because they live in the largest shithole on earth.

>>58657627
How do I get payed to shill and make factually incorrect charts while staying at home? Seems like a pretty nice gig you got there anon.

>>58657627
>student loans, food stamps, labor force participation, and home ownership stayed on their current trends that started during the Bush administration
>chart for healthcare costs doesn't show the previous trends
>"black inequality" is meaningless without knowing what factors they go by
Nice evidence.

>>58657839
They're "alternative facts" anon.

>>58655632
LOL i was reading this back and forth because i wanted to learn something about both perspectives on this but somehow i think this guy isn't the best representative

>>58657074
>falling for propaganda.

Forbes and that author are against Net Neutrality. Of course they will pretend people are doing smear campaign

Larry Downes is a lobbyist against net neutrality.

>>58657839
What's particularly misleading about the healthcare chart is that it could be indicating that people who were previously avoiding healthcare are now paying for it. Another possible factor is that ACA requires a decent amount of coverage. Previously people who had health insurance could get a bare-bones plan that only covered freak accidents and left you with very little else like regular doctor visits and shit like that. ACA requires those "extra" things. It also requires both sexes pay for medical procedures even if they do not necessarily apply to their sex.

Overall ACA does cost a bit more to the individual but the individual also gets better coverage and insurance companies cannot just drop you when you become too expensive to cover.

>>58655777
nice trips and great informed opinions i lvoe you

>>58657902
>I wanted to learn something about both perspectives
This is the problem with the world. The vast majority of people STILL don't understand that net neutrality is a good thing. They're trying to hear both sides of the argument. This kind of abject stupidity is what got Trump elected in the first place.
For example...
Hey anon, you breathe better if you stick your head underwater. No I swear, we all have gills now. You gota keep it under there for a couple of minutes for your gills to kick in.
Now imagine that 10000 idiots kept shitposting that every day for a year. At some point, a dumbass like >>58657902 is going to want to hear both sides of the argument.

>>58657405
So far he's been delivered more of his promises in 3 days than Obama did in 8 years. Don't you have a trashcan to harass, Antifa?

>>58657335
Roll tide brother

>>58657981
wait did you just call me a dumbass for wanting to learn the other side before adopting a side

it kinda sounds like you're a dumbass and are using a hyperbolic analogy to defend blind subscription to a point of view

i mean, i agree with nn after reading this thread

but damn that is a bad post

>>58657870
good thing trump administration will be checking EPA scientific studies for any non "alternative facts"

https://twitter.com/AP/status/824374557893083146

How is keeping NN a bad thing? When you have media conglomerate ISP monopolies you need to keep them in check. Unfortunately "muh free of regulations" doesn't apply in this case because of the monopoly situation which isn't going away.

>>58657931
I can tell you're a teenager. Anyone who has health insurance through their work or doesn't qualify for Obamacare does not get better coverage, they're literally getting worse coverage at higher prices. Also Obamacare has tiers bronze silver and gold. Your shit coverage freak accident coverage IS part of Obama care.

>>58658009
Yeah don't listen to that guy, not sure what he's on about. He is right that the vast majority of supporters of getting rid of NN simply don't know anything about it though.
Like you, you had no real idea what NN did before you entered this thread right? And now you do, and of course like a logical and intelligent human being you support NN.

But he's a dumbass for thinking ignorance is stupidity. Ignorance is just not knowing, I was ignorant about NN a couple years ago. Then I read the "Net Neutrality is Obamacare for the Internet" tweet and had to figure out exactly what it was.
I can't fathom the ignorance that went into that tweet, it borders on insanity.

Glad you've seen the light though. Spread the word. This isn't a political stance, it's a consumer right stance. Net Neutrality is a bipartisan effort everyone should support.

>>58658020
When you realize that the people who are against this are people with a vested financial interest in seeing NN go away and people who think the free market can do no wrong and any sort of regulation is a sin against ̶A̶l̶l̶a̶h̶ the free market it makes a lot more sense.

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>>58654490
Justice bump.
Fuck Trump.
Net Neutrality must survive.

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>>58658002
>he's been delivered

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>>58654490
>arstechnica

>>58658002
>Don't you have a trashcan to harass, Antifa?

Not anymore. I just got done harassing you.

>>58657554
>you cant like both obama and trump at the same time

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>>58658105
SAVAGE

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>>58658110
You could but like... why would you?

>>58658077
I mean at least he killed the TPP so he's 50/50 on good/retarded right now.

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Why are Americans spending so much energy arguing about net neutrality when lack of competition is the problem?

>>58658136
He's not even done anything about NN yet.
He's 1 for 1 at the moment, all this is because of speculation he's gonna be 1 for 2.

>>58658139
One step at a time. Solidifying net neutrality is one step towards getting rid of monopolies. At the very least, if we can get NN solidified it's stopping another push by ISPs for power.

>>58657068
True, many are literal redditors from the Donald sub. It's horrible.

>>58655259
>contacting your representative
...accomplishes nothing, you have to take the streets to make a point

>>58658189
Maybe in your state. My representatives actually listen to the people who call them.
If you live in a state where you need organized protest then get to marching.

>>58658139
They saw what happened to Bell and figured out how to avoid sharing a similar fate so the only way to reel them in is through Net Neutrality.

>>58656369
>progressive
>/pol/
Heh

>>58658139
Since when do Americans not complain about the lack of competition?

>>58656286
>our current laws aren't perfect
No shit, Sherlock! What gave it away, Captain Obvious?

The "let's just scrap it all away instead of redoing it properly" mentality though is the cherry on top of your stupidity.

>>58658189
Lol taking it to the street makes you look like a literal child. No one takes you seriously when you act like a child, Antifa.

>>58658036
This. Anecdotal but everyone I know who is forced into Obamacares state coverage is basically unable to make use of it barring life threatening freak incidents. Doesn't even cover prescriptions and is more expensive than previous options

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This is triggering me

>>58658255
dotard please

>>58658247
>>58658036
I think it mainly depends on the individual but also where they live and work at. Young healthy people get high as fuck rates while people who are already sick or older only have slightly higher rates. IIRC there was supposed to be a statewide expansion of medicaid to cover people who couldn't afford the new rates but "red" states all opted out of it.

>>58658241
And calling people anti-fascist as an insult makes you look like a literal fascist. No one takes you seriously when you act like a for-real no-shit fascist.

>>58657106
I don't understand why you asshats keep "hoping" for shit. Honestly how do you idiots get this delusional?

>>58656060
Abolishing NN would increase US Data center prices, european countries will profit from this. Trump is a german deepcover Reichs agent.

>>58654490
fake news

>>58655656
she would have flooded this country with refugees

>>58657870

>/pol/ hates the fuck outta lefties that make up their own buzzwords
>Now that "Alternative-facts" is a buzzword now they think it's A-OK

God it's like we came full circle now

>>58658136
>TPP
that's a part of globalization, fuck them

Pajeets fucking up technology again.

>>58658136
I really don't care about TPP as much as Net Neutrality.

>>58657627
We gonna get a source or you just posting alternative facts?

>>58659989
stupid nigger, ever heard of reverse image search? kys.

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>>58659785
"alternative facts"

>>58657260
aka: stop having opinions that trigger me!!!!!!!!

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>>58660206
hahaha... you're the one who got triggered, Pablo.

AHHAHAHAHAHA

>>58655432
>>58655348
Ah yes, I see now. A regulation that says "You're not allowed to dump toxic waste in the river" will surely harm the modern clean-sheet factory more than the one that was outright designed around dumping waste in the river.

Even fucking Hayek recognized that regulations are necessary.

"Regulations" are not a monolithic entity. "You can't merge if said merger would create a monopoly or duopoly situation in the market" would be a regulation. By definition, it couldn't result in a monopoly or duopoly arising.

This stupid "all regulations are harmful" canard should've been regulated out of existence long ago.

>>58657131
China has nukes too, and he's more intent on pissing them off than she was about Russia.

>>58654490
FUCK DRUMPF AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

That's the only defense the cultists have these days as demonstrated in this thread - memes and 'we won, you mad'.

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>>58654490

Maybe that trump verizon pajeet will finally cure me from my internet addiction by making it unusable.

it's a good thing for everyone here.

>>58655130
One day, sonny, you'll learn that these days both choices are usually shit 50/50 and you have to find out what 50% shit you want to deal with. And then you'll learn Congress is a thing AND maybe you'll pay attention to them.

>>58655711
>comcast has literally made it competition illegal in several cities
Do you have any sources on this? I'm actually really curious on this.

>>58655845
Proof? At least she isn't sucking Putin's dick.

>>58655911
How? This is quite the unverified meme to say the least. Economic sanctions is not nuclear war kid.

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>>58657443

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>>58660353
Meanwhile the US runs the larges socialist program the world have ever seen. Sucking up half the nations federal taxes. The US Military.

>>58660961
we need a strong military to kill all the brown and black people

>Ajit Pai
>Pajeet

POETRY
trumpcucks literally going to get cuck by a pajeet

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>>58660113

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The real question is: can anything be done to stop them from doing this?

If pol memed Johnson into office everything would have been fine, but Noooo they had to get the guy who's gonna gut NN, give ISPs power to choose how the Internet works, fragment it, actually limit news outlets, and kill 4chan. Fucking ironic.

>>58654594
/pol/ is the meme board, thinking is not required.

>>58659785
Fake news is going to be ran into the ground as a meaningless buzzword soon by memesters and shitposters.

>>58661907
No, trump is known for not taking any advice from anyone. Only listens to his own "sources".

>>58654490
Good, ban Americans from the internet.

>>58662287
I guess that means my isp will be throttling my VPN traffic soon.

>>58656100
anon I've been on 4chan for 7 years and you've got to be the dumbest motherfucker I have ever seen.

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>>58656744
Seems like you're not a neet, faggot

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>/g/ actually defending anyone against Net Neutrality
Damn /g/, /pol/ did indeed caught you guys by the balls, you used to stand for more better values than this...

>>58662287
(((sources)))?

how is NN supposed to prevent ISPs from competing with each other when it's supposed to let every other service compete fairly with their rivals

>I'm going to make money selling music online all the while improving technology, quality of life as well as the proliferation of art!
>capitalism works!
>oh wait nobody's buying my shit because every single competitor has bought preferential treatment from the 3 major ISPs left in America
>there's absolutely zero possible way I could pierce this market unless I had the funding and support of a massive multi-billion company

>>58662694
America, ladies and gentlemen.

>>58662631
You know post-purchase rationalization? This is kind of the same.
Doesn't matter what idiocy Trump does, /pol/ has to defend his actions.

>/pol/ being completely bluepilled and ignorant when it comes to technology

Trump could literally fuck them in the ass, and they'd win a gold medal in mental gymnastics trying to rationalize it as perfectly heterosexual.

Trump has a lot of good points, geopolitically, but if you think he's anything but shit when it comes to technology policies, he's Pajeet's wet dream and the American citizen's worst nightmare.

>>58662027
I support the Libertarians and I voted for Johnson because my state is blue as fuck so I figured I might as well help him try to hit 5% for 2020s sake.That being said, Johnson is a meme man who suffers from weapons grade autism.
https://youtu.be/vvULsrjLdI4

>>58660096
>"it's not my job to educate you"
ayyy

>>58662631
/pol/ runs 4chan.

>>58663192
only in their minds, /pol/ is very vocal and vocal is usually more visible, which might give the impression of larger numbers and influence.

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>>58654490
>Arstechnica

>>58663192
/pol/ goes into every board and pretends like they run the place, beg for food/(You)s and then shit everywhere. They're basically seagulls.

I live in Florida who do I call/write/torll to slow/stop this before it gets passed into law?

>>58663221
>>58663243
>being this new

>>58663307
being this new

>>58663278
Bill Nelson is your democratic senator, call his office. Marco Rubio is a republican and dumbass so he wont listen to you but you can call his office anyway.

Your representative in the house depends on where you live. You could call every one of them though I think.

>>58655130
Literally yes.

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>>58658090

>>58655845
>This day and age
>United States of Pussies faggots going to war whith anyone who isn't a poorly equiped sand-nigger hidden in a fucking cave

>>58663330
Although no one not even your senators can stop the FCC from fucking up NN if they wanted to. Trump could appoint two democrats but they still might have a difference of opinion about NN. The FCC is independent of the president and congress but they're only supposed to enforce laws that were passed by them.

>>58658002
He flip flopped on everything he said and you're just blindly following. We blanket amnesty now! And big expensive pay wall! The most expensive of both worlds!!!

Meh this shit came up around Obama's time a bunch of times and nothing happened.

Stop getting too paranoid.

>>58663422
of course it didn't, the whole world flipped the finger to the very idea of fucking with NN.

Whole problem will be a lot worse now that ISPs are getting into content creation as well.

>>58663422
>if I close my eyes long enough it will go away!

People are so fucking stupid. God damn. Fuck.

>>58663417
Find me documented evidence of "blankets amnesty".

Go ahead. I'll wait.

>>58655412
Whatever dude. We, the Trump mindless sheeps don't want Net Neutrality because they don't want it either

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>>58654490
He's destroyed TPP and is considering revisting NAFTA

Is, if not already is repealing the "Affordable" Health Care Act.

Intends to begin construction on the wall in several months and still intends to make Mexico pay for it. Which they will in one way or another.

He's making america great again, fuck your fruity internet you use to buy dragon dildos.

Anyone who's scared about Net neutrality or the lack there-of is fucking stupid and doesn't understand the subject.

>>58660362
Fucking /thread

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>>58660362
>this stupid "all regulations are beneficial" canard should've been regulated out of existence long ago.

FTFY phaggot

>all the Trump fanatic outrage ITT

When did Trump ascend from human being and into sacred religious entity? I've seen it all the day i've seen /g/ begin to fill with Anti-NN apologists all in the name of supporting Trump.

>>58663963
That started at least a year ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

PART 1
Hello Senator Bill Nelson I am a computer science major studding at the University of Central Florida. I'm writing you because of this article I read on Arstechnica's website. It talks about some troubling letters written by Ajit Pai and Michael O'Rielly two of the chairs on the FCC's board. In this letter they say "[W]e will seek to revisit [the disclosure] requirements, and the Title II Net Neutrality proceeding more broadly, as soon as possible,". To me this sound like they want to undo all the work that Progressives like me have been fighting for. A free and fair internet. Thees rules include provision so that Internet Service Providers (ISP) can't charge websites like Netflix or YouTube for bandwidth they use. As it stands now this charge would have to be negotiated with Netflix's ISP and then Netflix's ISP would then be able to raise prices for Netflix. Dismantling thees rules would allow ISPs to charge individual companies for faster bandwidth and would allow them to slow down websites that don't pay thees fees. If we keep going down this slippery slope we could end up where ISPs can charge the individual consumer for access to websites. Where someone like you or me would have to pay 100$ for Facebook YouTube and Netflix and then be charged an additional 5$ for any additional website we might want to visit like a cable subscription.

>>58654490
I don't get what is your issue. Your country is gigafucked by ISPs, why don't you want to change it

>>58654490
You're not entitled to unlimited bandwidth at low cost you fucking child, get the he'll over it.

>>58663963

yeah it's pretty sick. there's no intelligence left on 4chan

Lot of angry pajeets and drumpftards ITT

>>58664049
I really thought that, at least as far as 4chan is concerned, it was ironic and self-aware.

>>58664060 (You)
Part 2
I fear that small businesses wont be able to pay thees new charges and wont get the traffic they need to sustain and already built businesses might have to close there virtual doors because something they used to see as accessible is now just out of reach. Thees charges would be OK If people could chose the ISP they want but as we all have probably experienced when choosing a ISP we don't always have many choices and sometimes we only have one ISP. We need to regulate thees Monopolies to make sure they don't become predatory destroying the very thing they are supposed to be stewards to. Overturning thees rulings would be regressive and I just needed to write to you to hopefully shed some light on this topic so that you can be more informed and vote in the peoples best interest. Thanks for your time I tried to link the Arstechnica article but your website doesn't allow links.

>all the Euroirrelevants ITT
Why in gods name do they think that their """opinions"""" matter or are in any way desired?

>>58664084
I actually have no idea of /pol/ and that subreddit are being ironic but it doesn't really matter at this point because it's having an effect anyway.

>Trump will end net neutrality and his minions will defend him

Why would i have to exert energy to defend something that doesn't need defending because you are weak and incapable to fight it OP?

>>58664084
It stops being ironic and self-aware when /pol/ invites people from reddit, facebook, and Pewdiepie's youtube comments section to come here

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are you niggers seriously approving of this for the sole reason that the measure is from Trump ? I'm pretty sure you'd all shit your pants if this was attempted by anyone else

>>58663777
>Which they will in one way or another.
so he still has no idea how mexico is going to pay for it

>>58664084
This. Traditional 4chan culture has always been one of irreverence and detachment from mainstream politics. This place was actually a vocally anti-Bush website back between 03 and 08 so I wonder what happened between then and now and made the alt-right cuckings such a presence here. I'll still give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that it's all tongue-in-cheek fanaticism, but i'm starting to have my doubts.

>>58664154
Maybe it's contrary edgelords baiting you faggots because they are tired of the spam

>>58664154
I genuinely wonder what pre-2012's /g/'s reaction to this current /g/ would be.

>>58664154
ayatollah trump jung un is a thing now

>>58664155
>so he still has no idea how mexico is going to pay for it
Here are the hints:
1. A faction which if full of money will pay for it.
2. A faction which Trump can't publicly or officially associate himself with.
3. A faction which is proven and known to be manipulated and supplied by the CIA.
4. A faction in whose interest it is to have Mexicans stay in Mexico.
5. A faction which still hasn't been wiped out and still rules most of Mexico.

Try to assume now who will gladly pay and help.

>>58664181
Whether it's meant to be a joke or not is irrelevant, they actually helped an idiot become president. It's like that image of the guy pretending to be retarded to troll everyone, you're not trolling you're just being retarded.

>>58664200
They are all gone. Maybe you should take a hint and leave also.

>>58664212
I really hope you're joking. You can't honestly believe this, right?

>>58664193
Believe me, I really want to believe that it's nothing more than mediocre trollbait but i've been on 4chan long enough to see that there's a growing number of users (almost entirely newcomers) who actually take themselves and their political beliefs this seriously.

>>58664154
>are you niggers seriously approving of this for the sole reason that the measure is from Trump?

Yes. Because for some reason nobody gave a shit about anything for the past 2 decades of presidents when they did stupid shit, especially Obama. But now that Trump is here, everyone is all of a sudden paying attention to the same shit Obama did yet which nobody cared to whine about at the time.

>>58664212
>chimichapo?

>>58664248
>No one gave a shit about Net Neutrality issues before Trump's presidency

How new are you to 4chan? Heck, an even better question; how new are you to the Internet?

>>58664234
Why shouldn't i believe it? I'd be gleeful to do it if i was the Cartels, and that's all i need in order to believe the possibility of this outcome.

The question is why you are so adamant to disbelieve possibilities and focus on unwarranted and simple-minded confidence.
Are you not used to critical thinking?

>>58664288
>The question is why you are so adamant to disbelieve possibilities and focus on unwarranted and simple-minded confidence.
The irony is staggering

What is it called if my only choice in ISP is AT&T

>>58664212
Cartels rely on cross border drug sales. Why would they support something that would be against them?

>>58664288
Is English your native tongue? (Not a mean spirited question, just one of benevolent curiosity)

>>58664298
Oh? And what's the irony exactly?
I'm open about other theories,
however you are butthurt that i am
not flushing mine to substitute it with yours.
Yet you want to talk about irony.

>>58664323
I'm butthurt because I don't believe your /x/ tier conspiracy that cartels are going to make mexico pay billions of dollars to the US?

>>58664312
>Cartels rely on cross border drug sales.
Yeah, and those cross-border drug sales use anything but border tunnels.
They go via ships, via air, vehicles, but not via tunnel mules anymore. The even make cross-continent trades which get back to USA via non-Mexican sources.
What's your point?

>>58664342
Stupid people like yourself call anything you don't like the sound of a conspiracy theory.
The same happened with the NSA for years till Snowden came along and you ended up looking stupid in the end.

I'd rather continue producing theories in my head than be a simpleton like yourself who prefers naivety and easy dismissal.
We don't live in a nice world for such stupid naivety.

>>58664344
>vehicles,
The same vehicles that pass through checkpoints that will be strengthened in security?

>>58664313
No its not. Im not even an American. My country is so irrelevant no one knows or cares about our internet policy.

>>58664384
Nothing is secure so long as humans with poor pay and possibility of bribery and blackmail run it.
You should know this already anon.
The human element is the biggest weakness in all security that exists.

>>58664398
You're going to die someday, so why not kill yourself today?

>>58664413
That's a good question to ask a security guard who has spent too much time working at a checkpoint, with poor pay, and/or family members requiring costly medical treatment, and a buildup of frustration.
Give them a promise that their family will get compensation for your death and some may actually bite, as there are documented cases of this.

>>58657591
yeah, then why did the beautiful free market tank with George Bush?

>>58664433
Fuck your drugs
Fuck your rapists
Fuck your immigrants
Fuck your government

Build
That
Wall

>>58664434
Democrats passing laws requiring banks to hand out loans to anything with a pulse

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>mfw Hillary would have actually been able to build the wall due to her massive support from banks and companies, and she promised to do it

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>>58664212
This isn't even a conspiracy theory which exists.

>>58664528
>she promised to do it
source?

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>>58664616
Enjoy faggot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yMmG5p0Ll8

and here's more faggot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczoazK1mxU

>>58654490
I think next step would be separating page requests from generic upload so that you can't even serve without paying more.

>>58664630
Well she mentioned it. It's hard to tell what Hillary supports exactly though. She'd probably continue whatever Obama's polices were.

>>58664808
She has more balls than Obama and would have actually initiated wars and annihilated Syria to make America great again. She would have also armed and enforced Ukraine properly to punch Putin in the dick.
Now we have an isolationist faggot who wants to stop warring with weapons and wants to play Monopoly with China.
She would have done way more than Trump and Obama and Bush Jr. put together.

>>58663963
blame /pol/

I still think this was very well put together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qznPnKG9zko

>>58664850
War is good for you Goy!: The post