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Why is this not used more for streaming?

Poorfags with slow devices could just use a smaller resolution if they can't play it.
Besides, slower devices usually have smaller screens, so it shouldn't be a big problem.
The advantages are obvious: either less data to transport or better quality.
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>>58634972
AV1 is coming
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>>58634985
This.
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I think it's not even finished.
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>>58634972
>Why is this not used more for streaming?

- Patent/royalty clusterfuck
- only really 2x efficiency of AVC at really low bitrates
- VASTLY slower encoding
- some people don't like its particular artifacts from deblocking etc.
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Looks like shit.
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>>58638081

>Looks identical at 60% the file size

No
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>>58634972
HEVC was DOA
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>>58634972
It looks like ass and takes ages to encode.
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>>58638115
It doesn't look as detailed and sharp as properly done x264
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The lack of HEVC on video streaming sites isn't by accident, it's on purpose.

Almost all of the internet video platform companies are working on AV1 together, which includes Google, Netflix, and Amazon (Twitch). It's not just Mozilla working on open codecs anymore, even Microsoft is part of the team working on it, as well as AMD, Intel, and Nvidia.
HEVC will not have the same adoption as H264 because the circumstances are different, H264 was already popular prior to HTML5 video being standardized, and thus companies like Apple and Microsoft which at the time refused to use open codecs had a lot of leverage because they were standardizing what would be the first codec for the web.

Not supporting H264 at the time meant that browsers would fallback to flash, or just end up with no video at all, so the stakes were pretty high. Not to mention plenty of hardware already had hardware-accelerated decoding for H264, the open codecs were too late and never had a chance.

Now, HEVC has zero leverage, because everything can just fallback to H264, which means most users will at least get video playback, even if it's lower quality, or even if they don't get 4K resolution on browsers without VP9, etc. The tables have turned because Google, Netflix, and Amazon have all the leverage, even if Apple decides to push HEVC, all it means is Apple users will fallback to H264, which means a worse experience for them, but since most consumers don't even know the difference between codecs, most people won't notice, and so AV1 will very likely become the standard.

This also means that most people buying GPUs due to HEVC support are likely wasting their time since no streaming site is going to be supporting it in the future; I also wouldn't be surprised if hardware vendors remove HEVC in future silicon once AV1 is added to their hardware designs. They likely all just added HEVC because they knew it would trigger sales from people who didn't know that videosites will never support it.
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