Lavabit / Secure Email thread

I don't understand if the DIME (the ebin Dark Internet Memetic Environment) will be interoperable with standard email accounts

protonmail/tutanota and so on can send and receive mail to normal accounts

from what I see in the specs, only "Trustful" mode uses SMTP, POP and IMAP while "Cautious" and "Paranoid" allegedly do not

also, as far as I've understood, thunderbird will be able to operate with a DIME/Lavabit account only if you're in "Trustful" mode

otherwise you'll have to pick a special snowflake Thunderbird fork called "Volcano" or something
and, as far as I can see, if "Trustful" mode is the way you can inter-operate with well-established mail providers (I'd like a confirm on this), that's no different than trusting $random_guy for your mail; also, it's a step backwards from tutanota's or protonmail's approaches

and don't get me started on this retarded murrica great again thing
>starting a business on US
>AGAIN
>with PATRIOT and whatnot
>under Trump's isolationism
"no"

The misuse of the words "privacy" and "security" in the specs baffles me
The only improvement we need on email is a *definitive* way to get rid of spoofed mail (spf, dkim and dmarc should be a MUST not a SHOULD and servers not enforcing TLS should be blacklisted)
Other than that, email is not meant for privacy - let's just try to make it secure, mmkay?

Anyway, as far as I can see, there's little to zero discussion about email on this filipino transgender subreddit, even if someone keeps making threads on this

Why the fuck wouldn't you just host your own email server at that point

>>58629475
>Why the fuck wouldn't you just host your own email server at that point

How would you get DIME working on your email server exactly?

>>58629014
>and again they will vanish and get all of my paid monies to bahamass
nope this shitty provider making money

>>58630482
While a better protocol like this memetic mail environment from lavabit is a very good idea the real problem is that every fucking one is using gmail/outlook/yahoo.
Even large organizations like universities use those three big email botn...err...providers.
People don't even use PGP even if with thunderbird and eningmail setting up the keys is so easy even a braindead retard could do it.
Email is just like instant messaging, people always choose the least secure and shittiest option (eg. whatsapp).

I run my email server, enforce starttls, use DKIM, spf, PTR and PGP.
In my address book only a bunch of people use PGP, most of them are neckbeards writing in mailing lists.

lrn2self-host+enigmail, faggot