Look what I bought /gee!

You bought a laptop from the year 2011?

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It came with the industry standard 4 gigs of ram and a 5400 rpm hard drive for extreme speed!

Those 5400 RPM drives will lose any notion of speed in 1-2 years. After that, the computer will feel like a laptop from the 1990s. Chuck it out for an SSD immediately and it'll last you a while.

>>58601797
already done, actually

and the only reason it doesn't have 8 gigs or more now is that I don't have any handy

As a long time Thinkpad user (my T420s in the background there):
- the trackpad is amazing, and I've used trackpoints for years
- the screen looks nicer and has better viewing angles (even if the thinkpad has the resolution advantage)
- thinkpad feels robust and quality, this feels premium
- magsafe is great
- the keyboard is lacking pgup/pgdn, delete and various other useful keys (but the backlight is nice and it's good to type on)

Discuss.

>>58601698
>>58601751
Very nice anon, I got a 2012 13" with 16GB RAM and two SSDs in RAID0.

>>58601797
This.

>>58601911
>the keyboard is lacking pgup/pgdn, delete and various other useful keys
macOS has shortcuts for those functions, like Fn+Backspace is Del key and Cmd+Backspace is delete.

>>58601698
What year is this?

>>58601698
>käyttöjärjestelmä suomeksi

oletko kehitysvammainen?

>>58601984
Cool, this is a mid-2012 as well

I'm not going RAID tho, it's fast enough like this and I like having the optical drive (even in current year)

Having separate keys is better than shortcuts, with shortcuts I need to think and use more fingers. The thinkpad keyboard is pretty much perfect, can't deny that

>>58602069
Early mid 2000s? I dunno.

>>58602081
Probably not, how about you?

>>58602081
Tää, hyi vittu.

>>58601698

A proper replacement for that stinkpad

>>58602083
>I like having the optical drive (even in current year)
USB CD/DVD

>>58602083
>with shortcuts I need to think
Not after you have been using it for a while.

>>58602083
>Cool, this is a mid-2012 as well
That's great, the mid-2012 13" is a great 13" model, even with it's HD 4000 graphics, more than enough for such a size, specially if you have the i7 instead of the i5.

>>58601698
I'd say the laptop in the background is superior because the battery has lasted almost a month

>>58602315
>battery has lasted almost a month
you mean in standby?

>>58601911
ThinkPad fanbois gonna rustle

One day I want some nig to use sorcery or something to mod an apple trackpad into a T420.

>>58602819
What's the point? You still lack all the other hardware that macOS takes advantage of. Still a shit idea for a Hacintosh. Portable Hacintoshes are the worst.

>>58601698
>not hiding finder and menu bar
Congratz on getting a quality laptop already. What do you plan to do on it?

>>58602847
The point is probably the massive price difference between the two

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I know that liquorice!

>>58602819
what's the problem? people have been doing it for years, it's still a shitty idea

>>58602862
>not hiding finder
what?

>>58602867
you can get a better specced macbook than the T420 for around 400 bucks, that's too much for you?

>>58602892
Which macbook though? Would it even be compatible with Sierra?

>>58602868
>Finland
Obviously they are fags for liquorice, disgusting

>>58602892
Err, I meant dock.

>>58602906
>Which macbook though?
Anything up from 2012 15"

>Would it even be compatible with Sierra?
Every MacBook since 2009 is.

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>>58602911
or Germany or Denmark

>>58602937
See
>>58601698
>macOS is in finnish

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>>58602947

>>58602924
Man I wish. I couldn't get a 2012 for any less than 700€.

>>58602906
I'm >>58601984
I got my mid-2012 13" for 440€, mint condition.
It has an i7 3520M and the integrated HD 4000 is better than the dedicated Nvidia chip on the T420. Obviously it's better hardware wise than the T420.

>>58602862
>>58602919
Dock goes to the left, not into hiding.
Menu Bar stays too.

Just use fullscreen mode for browsers, etc. Switching between desktops with three finger swipe. It's godlike.

>>58602862
>What do you plan to do on it?

Basic facebooking, browsing and shit/qualityposting. Pretty normie-level stuff

Question: are all magsafe chargers compatible with each other?

Looking for a car charger

>>58603394
Not really, there is Magsafe 1 and 2. The switch happened around 2012 if I recall it right and OPs Macbook got the first version.

>>58601911
good for you, I can't imagine doing 3d modeling with that thing...

>>58603483
If I did that I'd use my desktop, it's much more powerful

>>58603477
It looks like there are 16,5V and 18,5V version at least. My charger just says "60W", no indication of voltage or anything

>>58601698
A used thinkpad? Nice. I'm sorry you had to put up with that macbook for so long, but I guess you can finally get rid of it now.

>>58603533
>>58603394
You can use the 18,5V 85W charger with a 16,5V 60W laptop.
But never use a 18,5V 85W laptop with the 16,5V 60W charger.

Conclusion, just get a 18,5V 85W and it will work with every Magsafe 1 Mac.

>>58601698
>OS in his native language
underageb&

>>58603539
>this butthurt

>>58603573
Is your country so small and meaningless that you don't have an option to have your OS in your own language? Must suck.

>>58603587
Minäkin olen suomalainen vitun debiili :D
Vain kehitysvammaiset ja/tai alaikäiset käyttävät omaa äidinkieltään missään ohjelmistossa jos vaihtoehtona on englanti

>>58603483
>I can't imagine doing 3d modeling with that thing
It's not like you're going to do 3D on some T420 either. At least that MacBook would actually be capable.

>>58603605
Sa oled kuradi debiil, aga sul on õigus, tehnika keel on inglise.

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>>58603605
>>58603636
I use my Linux in Finnish too.
>dat partially translated shell environment

>>58603683
I hate translated tech terms so much...

>>58602781
their boipuccis will be throbbing uncontrollably

>>58603712
Kek, lesbians might enjoy penor sex more too, but they will never admit it's better.

>>58603610
the main thing is the trackpad, I have to go back and use the mouse. and the missing keys on the keyboard, no F1 F2... shortcuts.

>>58603702
use non-english photoshop for a day and you'll die from the sheer amount of cringe

>>58603745
>the main thing is the trackpad
I like it, specially if the program has integrated gestures, most do nowadays.

>and the missing keys on the keyboard, no F1 F2... shortcuts.
You have all the F-unction keys, you can toggle between using them as F keys without needing to press anything. Also why do people who never used Macs think they don't have shortcuts? It has a huge library of them out of the box already and you can customise them all without 3rd party software.

>>58601698
>buying an old macbook
literally overpaying to get cucked

>>58603827
>literary better specs than some 2011 thinkpad
>hurrr

>>58603840
I bet you could have bought a later ThinkPad for the price you got it at

>>58603925
I'm not OP.
Also, nice meme, if you really bother looking, Macs are cheap as fuck.

>>58603925
Seriously, how NEET do you have to be that you cry over 100 bucks price difference when the quality is even better

>ITT
>people who don't own or can't afford macbooks shitpost on people who have and can because of their envy

>>58602892

got my 2011 for $275 shipped on eBay, the MBPs with dedicated graphics are prone to failure but the integrated graphics ones will probably last for a long while

>>58601911
>- the trackpad is amazing, and I've used trackpoints for years

FedoraPads will never know this feel

>>58603971
>>58603945
>>58604029
They are literally the same price as T430s where I live. check your privilege.

>>58604040
>got my 2011 for $275 shipped on eBay, the MBPs with dedicated graphics are prone to failure but the integrated graphics ones will probably last for a long while
I had to choose between 15" 2011 MBP or 13" 2011 MBP, same price, I went for the 13" 2012, just because I like the smaller form factor and the graphics isn't even much worse. I also know about the 2011 GPU failure rate, kinda off putting, but can't say I like the bulky 15" anyways.

>>58603971
>getting this defensive
/g/ is not here to validate your purchases

>>58604063
I already said that, they are cheap as fuck.

>>58601698
anon, you are fucking up the magsage connector, don't do that if you plan to use this for the next couple of months.

>>58604079
I sold a "muh vintage retro" computer that I got for 30$ to someone for several hundred buck for what I bought a MBP the same day.

My MacBook literary cost me 30$.

>>58604089
I have been using my magsafe exactly like that for about 2 years now, mostly bed use and I have no problems, it does not even have signs of wear.

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>>58601698
>Käyttöjärjestelmä kieli suomi
I hope you don't do this.

>>58604089
don't buy cheap chinese knockoffs then

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>>58601698

>>58604117
I would not risk it, Apple crippled most cables. Never had a problem but it's a known fact that they break on the connection points.

>>58604153
shut the fuck up meme spouter, it's not a chinese knock off problem, Apple makes shit cables with no reinforcement at the end of the cables.

>>58601698
Glorious anon, enjoy the butthurt of the ThinkPad only fags.

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>>58604167
>I would not risk it, Apple crippled most cables.
The Magsafe L is perfectly fine, they have a real long sleeve, not like the iPhpone cables that broke at the connectors, if you're still worried that you might pull it out or something, put a drop of superglue between the cable and sleeve.

>he buys a mac
>his work doesnt buy one for him
smalltime

>>58604492
>everybody tech sawy must work in tech

>>58604492
I work as a truck driver, why would they buy me a computer?

>>58601698
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>58601698
its like stepping back in time...woah!!

>>58604692
step back in time where computers didn't suck dick and actually worked.

>>58601911
Restored a mid-2009 MBP recently, so it became my way of getting into Macs after many years of everything else. Swapped with a cheap SSD and it's making for a pleasant learning experience.

Not expecting it to replace any of my Windows machines because that's not what it's for. I understand that it's a Mac and it has its own purposes. I do find it, however, quickly overtaking the role of my Chromebook as a comfy shitposting machine.

I agree that the lack of pgup/pgdn/home/end keys is annoying, but the trackpad and build quality more or less make up for it. Debating replacing the battery, since it only gets about 3 hours if I nurse it. Haven't found 4GB to be much of a bottleneck yet either.

>>58605199
Not to mention, you will get a shitty experience anyways with such an old unit. Even a ThinkPad from 2009 is hard to use as a main machine.

After I got myself a MBP, the only thing I still use my desktop Windows workstation for is gayming.

>>58605261
You're talking to a guy who's done very little heavy work away from the desktop. Most of my laptops get handed to me, so I've always had this notion that laptops are for lighter work. I know this to be false, but I still don't expect a lot out of portable computers. So for me, this is a good get, especially seeing that some retards will still pay over $400 for this model.

>>58601698
>>58601751
You can now roll with the cool guys and laugh at the Windows and/or Linux only-users!

>>58606545
It is certainly true that any *-only users deserve our ridicule

>>58606626
Amen.

>>58601698
>protruding keys

Look at his old shit.

>>58601698
Pingvin salt pastiller, noice.

>>58606808
Yeah, I love it, reminds me of the taste of cock.

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>>58601698
>throttling housefire trash

lmao

>>58604701
You need a Mac buddy.

>>58602847
My hackintosh T420 owns.

>>58606958
>t. mactoddler

>>58607043
>t. winshill

>>58606890
>2015
>thread about 2012

didn't except any simple minded idiot to read

>>58607022
How? Even OPs ShitBook is better than a T420 and you don't even have full hardware support with macOS, just a bunch of hacks.

>>58607022
It doesn't though
>must be wary of installing any updates
>every three boots the trackpoint doesn't work
>power management is flakey, plug in charger and it still thinks it needs to sleep soon
>usb 3.0 doesn't work (on T420s)

>>58607124
>usb 3.0 doesn't work (on T420s)
T420 hackintosh: dropped

>>58607043
>t. wintoddler

>>58607043
>t. only-using-one-os

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>>58607073
>mactoddler doesn't even know what he bought

>>58607073
>throttlebook
>thinks it doesnt throttle

didn't except any simple minded mactoddler to read

>>58607168
What the fuck are you talking about, it's the non-retina 2012.

>>58607187
Well, show me, because I can talk from experience, even when covering the fan, still running at 2.9GHz when at 95C.

>>58607168
>wintoddler still cannot into reading comprehension

take this L and move along, son

>>58607239
Kek

>>58607168
>>58607187
nice samefag

>>58607124
Not to mention the biggest:
>wifi doesn't work and bios prevents it from being changed

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>>58607226
>when at 95C.

LMAO
M
A
O

>>58607187
Actually, no, it does not heat throttle. It only boosts up to 3.1GHz and 1.20GHz when idle.

Your point?

>>58607262
>even when covering the fan
>thing runs fine even when you force it to overheat

See >>58607239
hotel tokara

>>58607262
literally every laptop would run that hot if you covered the vents.

>>58607305
not mine: the fan is broken

>>58607408
b&

>>58601698

Ummm...congratulations on coming out of the closet?

>>58607517
w-what, you noticed the furry tabs?

>>58607124
idk about the t420, but the x220 hasn't had major issues. all the sierra updates install fine, and in the case of 10.12.1, made the hardware volume buttons work.
>>58607258
i thought this was a tech board? there are modded bios for t420/x220 that allow whatever wifi card you want, higher ram speed, and all sorts of extra dorkass settings

>>58607571
>x220
That's a worse machine than OPs MBP, in every single way.

>>58607597
works pretty good for $90

>>58607611
>half the price of OPs MBP
>still have to mod and hack
Obviously cheaper, it's a shittier machine.

>>58607571
>there are modded bios for t420/x220
Yes (sort of). All the links were dead. I eventually managed to find one from some dubious corner of the internet and got a Dell card to work.

But in the end hackintoshing just isn't worth the hassle. Which is one of the reasons why I bought my macbook.

that autistic guy who spams ">t. mactoddler" and posts that edit of the sticky can't stop getting BTFO by the janitors

>>58607661
Topkek, poor bastard.

THANK YOU BASED JANITORS

>>58607643
>$10 wifi card
>7 screws
>20min of pasting commands from http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/
>oh how ive wasted my precious life

>>58607705
Yet it's a inferior machine and still requires hacking and modding to run macOS.

macOS is shit when you don't have the hardware for it, the only good part that makes MBP's awesome.

>>58607571
>x220
damn, the screen is even smaller than the 13" MBP from 2012

>>58607743
again, isn't this a tech forum, where people might be interested in such hacking and modding? nowhere did i say a realass macbook isn't the optimal solution for running macos. it's just my belief that hackintoshing a thinkpad isn't the head-against-concrete nightmare that some posters are making it out to be.

as for the specs being "inferior", sure, okay. it still runs pretty damn good, i think

>>58607656
Agree, when the price difference isn't a problem, literary MBPs with better specs are not even 1/3th more expensive. I don't want to call anyone poor, but why cheap out on something you will use and rely on? I was a NEET when I bought my first and even I had the money doing random tech jobs.

>>58607827
>again, isn't this a tech forum, where people might be interested in such hacking and modding?
Just seems pointless, that's all.

>as for the specs being "inferior", sure, okay. it still runs pretty damn good, i think
I'm glad for you, I know it can be fun messing with these things.

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>>58601698
mid-2012? Nice.
I'm running the same, except with 8GB ram and 500GB SSD. I used to hate Apple, but I bought this off a friend for $300 (sleeper cable was fucked, he just went and bought a new one instead of doing a $5 repair hehe). The only problems I've experienced are with the keychain.

>>58607863
>The only problems I've experienced are with the keychain.
What problem?

>>58607863
why use the hideous system monitor when things like iStats exist?

>I used to hate Apple
why hate something you don't use or know about first hand?

>>58607863
>siri
>launchpad
>ugly thing on the left
>not even up to date bash
you're not very mac-savvy, are you?

>>58607868
Every time after a fresh install of macOS (I distro hopped a lot when I first got it), every time after signing in it would prompt me to enter my password for my "local items keychain". None of my passwords would work; not the local password, not my Apple ID password, nothing. Only fix was to use the terminal to delete a file inside the /Library/Keychain. I've been thinking that it might be trying to use some old password from my Apple ID, but yeah it was really weird.

>>58601984
>macOS has shortcuts for those functions, like Fn+Backspace is Del key and Cmd+Backspace is delete.
If I wanted to use Emacs I wouldn't need to buy a mac

>>58607939
I always deauthorize the computer before doing a fresh install and I never had problems, also, I never entered the wrong password, kek.

>>58607942
Nobody is forcing you if it's too hard for you. You obviously don't use macOS or you would not about the shortcuts you actually use.

>>58607912
nah, I'm not. I should probably turn siri off. I was using Ubuntu gnome on it for a while and just recently reinstalled macOS.

>>58607887
I like xrg. Never heard of iStats before, but I'll check it out.

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>>58607985
>I like xrg. Never heard of iStats before, but I'll check it out.
Do it, it's great.

>>58607958
lol I thought it might have been that I was mis-typing my password but it happened ever time I've installed it. I know my Apple ID password is correct because it lets me authenticate everywhere else. but yeah, it was frustrating, but I figured it's not the norm.

>>58608025
>I don't use something because I'm worried what others might think of me
grow up

>>58608035
>i use a fruity toddler toy instead of a real computer

Grow up.

>>58608035
kek no. Why would I buy a computer for twice the price of a normal one and every little addition I want to make is super expensive. Even the fucking adapters and cables for it are terrifyingly expensive.

>>58608027
Probably to do with the fact that it syncs your mac's serial with the OS and your account, doing a reinstall might have caused it.

>>58608083
Dunno, my MBP was cheap as fuck and in great condition.

>>58608083
>buying a mac new

>>58608174
>>buying a mac

>>58601698
Install gentoo already

>>58608262
He already has Loonix. Lurk moar.

>>58608345
You can even see the Xfce desktop in the OP picture.

>>58608376
>>58608345
Let me try this again…

Install gentoo on your new toy already.

>>58608396
It's the MacBook of ThinkPads.

>>58608396
The 15" quad i7 and dedicated GPU is even better. Still same ports and looks.

>>58608431
>dedicated GPU

I wouldn't trust those to last. I've watched Louis after all. Which is why I was careful to pick one with iGPU

>>58608463
We are talking about the 2012 line, I don't know anyone who had GPU problems with those, Apple learned after the 2011 GPU failure.

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Well since this is the macfag thread I guess I may as well ask this here.

How exactly do I get an imac g5 to boot off of USB when in kernel panic mode? I've tried things that I found via google searching but the thing never actually boots off the usb, it just goes straight to this screen.

>>58608491
Oh, I see. I'm still going to be wary of them though.

>>58608491
>Apple learned after the 2011 GPU failure.

LMAO
M
A
O

>>58608518
I don't think the PowerPC Macs can even boot off USB.

>>58608491
Yeah, that's why they shat out throttling housefire for another 6 years after that.

>>58608526
Yes? Literary the failure rate of those in non existent VS the 2011 line.

>>58608533
I was told that it could. God damn it, oh well.

After the kernel panic started I was going to try and work around it by putting some linux distro on it, but I guess that's not an option.

>>58608564
CD boot?

>>58608564
The imac was an old gift from a family friend, and they didn't give the CD with it. I think they lost it or something. All I know is that I don't have the install disk to do that with so I was hoping the USB boot would work.

>>58608675
Whoops. meant for >>58608613

>>58608675
Get a USB CD/DVD R/W and get a disk image off TPB. It's not rocket science or expensive.

>>58603605
Did you just have a seizure on your keyboard m8?

>>58608803
It's a finnish thing, you wouldn't understand.

>>58607887
>look up iStat
>costs money

That's one of the things I dislike about OS X. It doesn't really have a culture of free software. I even found some shareware for it in [current year].

>>58608821
>t. mactoddler

>>58609197
>costs money
It was free for me.

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/15845222/iStat_Menus_5.20_[kg]___Crack

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>>58607863
Can we just address how the terminal is transparent through the fucking screenshot ?
Why does OS X apply an alpha channel to screenshots like this at all ?

>>58609428
>why does a toddler toy OS have eye candy?

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>>58609483
No, anon. The blurred background behind the transparent terminal is eye candy.
The screenshot itself being transparent is just retarded, and if anything it only serves to make it even uglier than it already is.

>>58609428
>>58609555
Because he has transparency and blur enabled for the terminal. macOS uses PDF type graphics for everything. That's why I used JPG not PNG for screenshots, it's easily changeable.

>>58609428
>>58609555
because it's accurate like that

>>58609483
What OS do you use that does not let you customize it?

Serious question btw.

>>58609603
Oh.

>>58609631
>accurate
So you mean to tell me that your monitor becomes transparent when certain composition effects are enabled in your applications ?

>>58609483
MACTODDLERS BTFO

>>58609667
no, but the desktop itself has an alpha channel layer behind it

change your screenshots to jpg if it bothers you or don't do eyecandy shit

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>>58609667
You mean to tell me yours doesn't?!

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>>58601698
Hey speaking of buying shit:
>order compuder on bestbuy website
>bank cockblox it, tell bank to gtfo
>bestbuy lets me update payment info
>put same info since I told bank to gtfo and I was buying this
>2 charges for computer show up on account at bank
>eventually best buy says ok come get combuter
>go get it
>2 days later, there are no charges on my bank

You think I just got my $1700 computer for free or it'll come back and charge me later?

>>58609667
>So you mean to tell me that your monitor becomes transparent when certain composition effects are enabled in your applications ?
No, but if you want to take screenshots of actual transparent things than it will stay accurate.