Explain why you dont use Gentoo Linux

i do

>>58599278
i dont need to explain my actions to a nobody.

>>58599278
arch just werks
don't feel like spending the extra time to switch to gentoo, and I don't think I'd get any significant performance benefits from doing so

Because it has no benefits over Ubuntu.

>>58599319
enjoy the breaks

Because I don't want to.

compile times are forever

>Oh, you want to browse the web? Just wait an hour while chromium compiles

>>58599278
install gentoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPM6FFD2eCk

>>58599372
you can use "firefox-bin" until chromium is ready

>>58599335
this. also i have family and a job.

>>58599278
Because i use ubuntu.

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>>58599278
Because I like live patching.

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>>58599278
windows vista is all I need friendo

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But I do.

Because I use my OS to get work done. If I were to use Gentoo I'd be less efficient with my time, so why bother?

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>>58600477
How so? What are you basing this assumption on?

>>58599278
But I do. I've tried to switch back to something simpler like Xubuntu but I can no longer live without Portage and OpenRC.

Embrace the 'too.

>>58599372
Basically this.

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>>58599372
>>58600559
Oh no. A one time wait. That isn't that long on a modern CPU. That doesn't prevent me from using my computer while it happens.

>>58599352
im using it for 3 years now, when will it break?

>>58599508
fuck off from 4chan businessman

Because I like to play games

>>58600594
>one time wait
>chromium updates every week
>firefox updates almost every week

havent found a comprehensive guide on how to compile the kernel for my system

>>58599278
Because I don't wanna compile everything from scratch. Compiling qt alone takes 4+ hours on a i7 hexacore.

>>58600635
>job
>businessman

>>58600862
>not doing business as your job.
>3017-500*2

>>58599278
I don't want to.

>>58600716
>going through menuconfig and checking what hardware I have is hard

t. (You)

>>58599278
But I do, OP
https://youtu.be/5QAuBK-hbEU

>>58599299
>>58599335
>>58599354
>>58599536
>>58600652
>>58600974
good reasons

>>58599319
>>58599372
>>58599508
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>>58600832
retards

What are the benefits of gentoo over arch? Inb4 placebo performance gain

>>58601017
OpenRC.

>>58601046
what if I told you I actually prefer systemd?

>>58599278
Compiling packages to install them is annoying and takes too much time.
We've been over this

>>58601058
added to retard list

>>58601046
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenRC

>>58601073
not an argument

>>58601073
add yourself to that. systemd isn't half as bad as faggots want to make it look.

Because minor benefits and major complexity.

Of corse if u have spasm because of 0,2 secant faster reboot You can waste time for customization.

>>58601101
t. not a sys admin.

Systemd really isn't all that bad if the only thing you do is rice your desktop. Fuck off Arch babby.

>>58599278
I'm not able to follow the autistic install guide.

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>>58600661
you can still use your browser while it updates...

>>58601079
Don't make me laugh.

>>58601132
http://theautismblog.seattlechildrens.org/autism-and-dealing-with-change/

Can any gentoo users explain profiles to me? I'm installing it now and I want to go for a non-bloated installation, which profile am I supposed to use?

>>58601357
Profile adds some useflags globaly

Because Smartos exists

because honestly I am a gnu/linux retard and want to learn things before trying it instead of just copy/pasteing my way from wiki having no idea what I am doing.

>>58601357
Profiles define the default set of USE flags and the @system that is going to be installed.

You can and most likely will of course customize your USE flags; selecting the right profile only gives you some sane defaults. If you're not going to run Plasma or GNOME then just go with the default desktop profile.

>>58601357
Probably the best profile to go with is the plain desktop profile.

>>58601416
You don't learn before hand, you learn by doing. Install it, make mistakes, fix the mistakes and get better by gaining experience. Just reading in isolation will not teach you much. Just take the plunge and read as you go. You will pick it up much quicker.

>>58599508
Have used gentoo for ages while maintaining both full time work and an active social life. It's not really that hard.

>>58601017
portage is life.

>>58601378
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>>58601429
thaknks, now for configuring the kenel. How much of a benifit is it to do it manually over using genkernel?

>>58601450
IMO it's integral to the gentoo experience. I would strongly recommend getting to know your hardware and how you use your machine then configuring it manually. There will be some teething pain but you will get it. In all seriousness, if I can do it then you can too.

>>58599278
Because I don't feel like waiting for days to get things compiled to find out vulkan isn't even supported properly yet.

Also configuration is a mess

Went back to BSD where all configs live in /etc

>>58601450
Stick to genkernel during the install, especially if you never done it before.

You can manual configure the kernel once you have a working system.

>>58601477
>days
What on earth are you trying to install gentoo on?

>>58601523
ma duuuuuukhhhh

>>58601450
Genkernel is fine, don't listen to the retards.

Because I don't want to have an os that works similar to a cellphone that was not jailbreaked

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>>58601560

Arch Linux users here?
Why you dont switch to Gentoo?
>inb4 muh AUR

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>>58601584
W-what?

Zorin OS is comfy

>>58599278
i use debian

>>58601584
>Because I don't want to have an os that works similar to a cellphone that was not jailbreaked

Is there any os other, than windows ones, dos, templeos, ReactOS and MenuetOS, that is not like a non jailbreaked cellphone?

>>58599278
I don't want to compile every package under the sun.

>>58599278
Because none of the programs on it work
>inb4 "ya fucked up the USE flags"

>>58599278
how am I supposed to use it when even PHP5 needs 30minutes to compile on my machine?

2retarded2install

>>58599278
Because it is not installed on any of the hardware that I have access to, and us. If it were, or if I took the time to install it myself, things might be different.

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>>58599278
I do. Used debian for a year then took the plunge into gentoo.

It was difficult to set up at first (which I quite enjoyed), to get the correct audio driver and a few other things, but now everything just werks if you remember/google a few commands. Compiling the kernel was a bit scary, but as long as you are thorough with research, nothing should go wrong.

Although today I decided to emerge -uvaDN @world
, after not updating anything for a year. It's taking a hell of a long time.

I was running gentoo for years it is my fav. But it was really frustrating spending time fixing or installing things on the fly when I wanted to coworkers or my boss something. It happens. So I use Debian at work now.

>>58599278
I'm nervous about backdoors and I don't know enough about the system's operation to audit it thoroughly.

>>58599278
couldn't make the sound work, not even in the livecd

Explain why Gentoo is so popular because I'm pretty sure Arch is better in every possible way.

>>58602941
>rolling release
>not updating at least every couple of weeks

asking for trouble

>>58603219
Because you're wrong and gentoo is better in every possible way

>>58603219
>no Steam support
whoops

>>58599319
My thoughts exactly. Arch has never broken for me and I've been using it as my daily driver for almost 2 years now. It's literally the perfect operating system for me.

>>58603219
>Portage > Pacman
>OpenRC > Systemd
>Gentoo's stable core + opt-in bleeding edge software > Arch's half-tested bleeding edge everything
>Gentoo's community: veteran hackers > Arch's community: weeb "ricers"

Because I used it only to learn more about *nix for about a year. Now that I'm smarter I switched to Ubuntu with Unity.

Because I share the pic with my family and they wanna use windows

I have a job and my time is valuable and I don't want to waste my company's time on dropout shit.

Quite literally nobody gives a shit what OS you're using, they care about the speed and reliability of your hosting, what lang you're using, and what their software looks and acts like. You should be arguing over stuff like apache, php, etc but you are forever stuck as a 16 year old jerking off over how hard it was to set up your desktop.

>>58603332
cuuuuck

>>58599278
The time taken to compile the software for your specific hardware is greater than any time saved by the minor speed improvements given by a large margin.

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Being able to update KDE without the compile time is pretty nice I guess. Adding flags you forgot and recompiling is a chore as well.

I don't even own my own computer.

>check and mate

>>58599278
Too much annoying for a noob like me to install and i want bleeding edge packages

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I'm using it right now.

>>58599278
Because I can afford good hardware because I have a job.

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>>58599278
I use Solus

>>58599278
I have work to do

Nothing wrong with arch

>>58604558
except systemd

>>58599278
I'm not a NEET

>>58599278
I'm a bit Ubuntarded. Like stuff to just workTM

>>58604749
As a Gentoo user, this is one of my few criticisms of Gentoo. Things don't Just Werk™, it usually takes a long time to get things up and working, especially audio/wireless, and anything else related to drivers.