Is this thing /g/ approved?

>>58572420
Is the firmware open source?
If not, can you mod it to run free software?

>capacitive touch screen
>shit os
>paid online
>no App Store
>no multimedia functionality
>no games

The concept is cool. The rest is pretty much not. While I would tell you to fuck off to /v/ that place is always going to have the same shit. So I'll give you my opinion instead.

It's really underpowered for its current price. The prospect of playing "big" titles on a portable sounds good, but then you have to take in account battery life, temperature and such things. It seems to be featureless, aside from gaming you can't do much with it and, to be honest it had the potential to also be a normal tablet for them normies, which would probably convince a lot more people, but nah, just games, without backwards compatibility.

The online subscription system is also nuts, unless it's priced fairly which we don't know yet. Priced fairly means half of what the competition costs, considering they're also not offering much with the service (renting a SNES game worked 24 years ago, not now).

Really it's only going to be worth 66% its price when it's open and modded to a level where you can put more things on it than emulators. For now though? Save your money. Don't buy a PS4 either. Get something else, like a thinkpad. Pretty fun device.

>>58572450

The performance:battery life is ridiculous.
They've bogged it down with useless shit like HD rumble. When it could've been put to use with a better battery and better cooling for higher clock speeds.

One can only hope they update it like they did wii U and add a slight over clock

>>58572438

Isn't capacitive the good touchscreens?

>>>/v/

If it's anything like the 3DS it should be.
People are looking for fully open source shit, well that thing's had its guts dumped and you can do whatever you fucking want with it.
I'm guessing nintendo has taken a "From scratch" approach with the switch as well, so once we get bootloader it'll be a world of fun.

>>58572463
HD rumble's just the same shit in apple's taptic, and it's only in the controllers, and there's no word on their battery life. I'm guessing far longer than the consoles.
Putting a massive battery in the controller to help charge the tablet though, could be a novel idea.

>>58572463
Honestly, I don't care about the neocons, the rumbles, the entire gimmick. I would buy a switch "home console" if that even existed, if they actually bothered making something better hardware wise. While this is a "more useful" gimmick (depending on which people you're selling these portables to, that is) it is not exactly necessary to prosper.

The reason why nintendo handhelds sell much more than their home consoles is the focus on putting so many fucking games on them. They're really underpowered as well. The problem now is that Nintendo has tried to merge both, and didn't get either very well. You don't have a home console that screams "better than the flop the Wii U was" and you don't have a handheld that's filled with titles and has at least battery life that can support the better titles and not just another fucking picross. It's not looking well.

>>58572501
sorry, I meant joycons.

I don't care about neocons either to be quite honest

I'd be really into a mini PC in the same form factor, say using one of AMD's new ulv chipsets.

The smachz is a nice concept, but i dint have a great deal of confidence in the industrial design or build quality

>>58572420
It is the iPhone of consoles, /g/ will hate it.

When a worst version comes out, maybe with a broken android, /g/ will buy it (in alibaba full with maleware).

>>58572420
No unless you can install Gentoo on it

>>58572470
the only good touchscreen is no touchscreen

>>58572531
I wonder if they'll come out with a cheaper non mobile version, just like how they came out with the 2DS because people don't use the 3D gimmick after all.

>>58572420
No
I might consider it if it gets hacked and I can run emulators on it.
also
>>>/v/

It's obsolete right out of the gate: it uses a Tegra X1 when it could have been an X2. Why? Nintendo, I guess.

>>58572545
I was just thinking, like a little PSTV, and way cheaper, although something about that screams failure.
>>58572608
Maybe they're using X1 on a smaller node for better battery life?

>>58572551
there is a watch general, a trap and a chinese ebay thread and this is not technology

Why always so retarded, /g/?

>>58572420
nope.nx

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No. It's just a locked down android tab with more childrens games.

>>58572608
>It's obsolete right out of the gate: it uses a Tegra X1 when it could have been an X2. Why? Nintendo, I guess.
This might come as a surprise to you, but it's probably been in development for longer than a day.

>>58572636
nice garbage graphic chart

>>58572656
feel free to post something better.

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>>58572636
>GPU performance = video game quality

>>58572678
>Lots of causals buy it = video game quality

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>>58572678

>>58572681
When the wii U ends up the only console that reliably outputs 1080p 60fps in an online shooter then fuck your GPU performance, I'm happy with games made by competent programmers.

>>58572420
Yes, nu/g/ approves because it has Nvidia stuff in it.

>>58572678
>>58572682
>comparing 2007 numbers
Yeah, nice trick.

>>58572681

This is about /g/ approved, not /v/ approved

X1 is old ass hardware

There is too much wrong with it technically for me bother typing, but if they released a Metroid game at least as good as Fusion on it I would go buy a Switch that same day.

Unfortunately that won't happen.

>>58572802
What Metroid is to you, Zelda is to tons of people. They don't care about technically inferior hardware.

>>58572782
I recalled that specific image from memory. I can't be bothered to do an up to date comparison. If you want to, be my guest

>>58572819
this

I buy nintendo stuff pretty much for zelda and nothing else. (Although I usually just buy the input hardware and emulate)

>>58572819
I think it was fairly obvious in my post that I would completely ignore all the technical faults with the Switch if it allowed me to play something I've been pining for for the last decade.

I enjoy Zelda games quite a bit, as well, but I won't buy a Switch for them.

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>>58572636
>old snapdragon is faster then docked switch

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>>58572824
This is all you need really. The whole "Scaling a picture of the console" is also quite misleading (Wider consoles have bigger size)

>>58573062
Brand new S835s are only $30 a pop.
High performance, really efficient, cool running. Everything the Switch's shit tier Tegra X1 isn't.

The question is: How much power do you need to run a nice looking Mario/Zelda game.
Whereas i don't really think something like HD Rumble is a killer feature, I wouldn't either say, that more computing power would benefit Zelda or Mario Kart etc.
What I would appreciate:
Cheaper (no gimmicks)
More open (with a browser and some apps it could be a substitute for a tablet, also I would like to tinker with the IR-camera etc.)
A new Metroid

Also something, that is rarely mentioned:
Nintendo is the savior of local coop with the switch.
You always have two controllers with you and you're also able to connect up to 4 (or 8?) Nintendo Switch via Adhoc.
The possibility of easy (big screen) Monster Hunter Lan parties would be a big selling point for my kind of people

>>58572420
It's a video game console, no
>>>/g/

>>58573243
>How much power do you need to run a nice looking Mario/Zelda game.
As it looks, more than this. New zelda isnt very good looking at all, but the switch still only does 900p 30fps. It's pretty bad when it cant even do 1080p at launch.

>>58572425
fpbp

I've preordered 4 of these for family members.

>>58573352
How does the Nintendick feel in your butt?

I got hopes for the switch, but that all they are, hopes. That basic concept of ninety combining their portable and home hardware is a good one, if only because it means access to more games with a single device.

The GPU doesn't really matter. Only idiots care more about that than the quality of the games, I think it's a valid business choice to not even try to compete on that front.

There are a lot of things that worry me though.
The price. It seems fine at first, until you factor in how weirdly expensive all the peripherals are. It really starts to rack up if you want a pro controller or a second set of joycons. And then there's the fact that you'll probably want to buy memory cards and battery packs. It all adds up.

The second presentation focused on the motions controls, which no one cares about any more, and completely ignored the portable aspect in terms of games announced.

And the online charge is bullshit, obviously.

And there the probability that they'll continue to mishandle the virtual shop catalogue. If buying a switch gave me access to all classic ninety titles at a reasonable price, with a great selection at launch and a good release schedule for more it would add SO MUCH value. The switch has the potential to be a machine that lets you play every Zelda ever released, but it probably wont be.

I agree that this is a plus >>58573299

>Slower version of X1
>512 GFLOPS of compute performance
>2.5 hours of battery
>$300
>No games
>Paid online
>Motion control gimmick
>32GB of memory
>Probably gonna lose 3rd party because of low specs
I was excited for it but this is a huge fucking mess.
Might get it later when Mario comes out.

>>58572450
>>58572463
>>58572497
>>58573493
>>58573474
>battery life
I'm sorry to bring it to you but this is a home console not a handheld console, battery life doesn't matter as much. You play the games with the AC plugged in and on a big TV for the best experience. And, if you want to, you can bring it with you to play anywhere you want. Of course the battery won't perform like the 3DS, but that's not the point.
Switch was never intended to be the next 3DS, its the next nintendo home console.

I wish i could bring my PS4 to the loo and keep playing japanese anime game while i poo for hours like a real man.

>>58572463
HD rumble doesn't affect battery life, the controllers have their own batteries and only draw power if the Switch is charging

>>58573862
>home console
It's less powerful than a fucking flagship phone.

>>58572420
No
>>>/V/

>>58573902
Yeah i don't know about that but in any case your flagship phone can't run the next zelda. Maybe there's something else going on than muuh power.

>>58573930
>muh zelda
enjoy your no 3rd party support because of shit hardware

If it gets hacked, yes; if not, no. If it doesn't get hacked, it's just an underpowered locked down tablet/pseudo-console. If it does get hacked, then we're looking at possibly the best mobile emulation machine to date.

Not gonna lie, the paid online is pretty bullshit. I hope Nintendo is getting their act together and unifying all their services under one account. I wanna be able to log into my Nintendo account, manage all my Nintendo devices, decide whether or not to subscribe to online, etc. It should be like Battle.net, you have all that shit at your fingertips. And since they're charging money now, the online better be top fucking quality and they better have tons of great online multiplayer games to take advantage of it. Splatoon 2 and Super Smash Brothers ain't gonna cut it. And for fuck's sake, put Monster Hunter on it.

>>58573902
• flagship phone: 700usd
• that shit: 300usd

at least compare it to other consoles

>>58573299
>implying there would even be a big screen monster hunter when nintendo is dead set on continuing the 3DS generation + beyond
LMAOOOO

>>58573930
i rather not play it at all than at worthless 30 fps

>>58573862
>I wish i could bring my PS4 to the loo and keep playing japanese anime game while i poo for hours like a real man.
2bh you could probably find a vita for super cheap and do exactly that
but w/e

>>58573950
well you also need a flagship phone to use basic online services on the switch like matchmaking, parties, and voice comm

>>58573950
more like $400 for a phone with 820

>>58573944
by changing subject so quickly you're implying that i am right (which i already knew), thank you for that.

>enjoy your no 3rd party support because of shit hardware
I really don't care about that, i don't buy nintendo. Go back to >>>/v/ now

>>58573966
see this >>58573983

>>58573950
cpus in phones are dirt cheap
see
>>58573125

>>58573974
actually, the only flagship phone is the iPhone m8.

>>58572438
>>capacitive touch screen
You're a member fucking mong .. It's a necessity these days except on laptops
>>shit os
Nintendo was always proprietary. If it bothers you that much wait 20 years for a freetard alternative or don't play shit.
>>paid online
What is XBOX live
What is PSN
What is WOW
>>no App Store
Nintendo e-store?
>>no multimedia functionality
Yes it does. Toasters can do Netflix and YouTube these days.
>>no games
Launching with atleast 23 titles and shit ton in development. Also people get Nintendo consoles for their games anyway.

>>58574017
Yeah good job bringing that up out of nowhere then.

>>58574042
>What is XBOX live
>What is PSN
>What is WOW
Shitty money grubbing tactics

>>58572463
The battery life sucks, yeah. But at least the charging is via USB-C, so you can use a portable charger or whatever.

>>58574113
Yes. But the point was that it's not something outrageously new that deserves a mention.

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THIS THING WILL DO VERY WELL AND HERE'S MY REASONS WHY:

1. It gets people out of the house
2. First console to play full AAA titles in handheld form
3. Micro SD card support up to 2TB ( of course only 512GB exists in the real world currently)
4. USB-C charging means you can just use the external battery you use for charging your phone on the go to charge the Switch
5. Future proof because Nintendo will have access to new more powerful and power efficient NVIDIA chips every fucking year so they can upgrade it every fucking year like Apple does for iPhones.

>>58572636
Any reason why they went with Tegra 1 then?^

Maybe nvidia sold Nintendo their unused shield batch for a very cheap price. Switch = maxwell confirmed.

>>58574155
>Maybe nvidia sold Nintendo their unused shield batch for a very cheap price
That explain a lot because nobody seems to want the fucking things.
>>58572420
Absolutely not, I have no idea why they went the direction they did. Is this really the replacement for the Wii U? This is retarded, on every front but especially on the technical side of things. I mean, NVidia? The company that has a history of fucking over their console customers? Both Microsoft and Sony learned the hard way that NVidia are not good playmates, it'll be interesting to see what they'll do to piss Nintendo off.

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>>58572420
I dunno. What the fuck is it? Why do you think that you need my approval? I'm not your alcoholic father, and I really don't care what you do.

If it makes you feel better though: how many girls have called you today, son? Really, zero? Well how many called you yesterday? Zero too huh? Well let's do the math then. Zero plus zero equals fag.

>>58574155
>Any reason why they went with Tegra 1 then?^
Who knows. Nvidia probably just gave Nintendo a very good price on the Tegras.

One thing that is certain is that nVidia are notoriously difficult to work with. Microsoft ditched them in favor of ATI after nVidia refused to lower prices on the OG Xbox's GPU. Sony learnt their lesson when nVidia ripped them off on the PS3' GPU. Now it's Nintendo's turn to deal with nVidia's shenanigans.

Don't get me wrong, they are great at designing chips, just as soon as they collaborate with another company everything falls apart.

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>>58572420 (OP)
>>58572682
>>58572782
A.Seasoned hacker
B.Do want 3ds Pokemon Interstellar and Mario-Fart 8
C.Switch is Shit, but will try it.
D.Picrelated about the fanboys and ignorant children

>>58572463
>The performance:battery life is ridiculous.
it's literally better than any portable gaming device ever made

>>58574995
>what is psp

>>58574995
>on par with the vita
>everyone was raging at sony for the horrendous vita battery life, even though the vita can handle things like basic voice chat while the Switch can't
>but its ok when nintendo does it
*yawns*

>>58575011
yeah, I guess when you compare how relative the performance is to the time, then yeah the PSP blows it out of the water. I remember getting 5 hours of GTA on that thing. It was beautiful
>>58575086
yeah it's basically nintendos vita, but yes their online bullshit is pretty stupid

I mean, the vita:ps3 is basically what the switch is to the xbone. so delivering 3 hours of cut down next gen is not very different from the vita

hopefully the specs on how long it takes to charge and shit is not true and it'll take a fast charge when not being used

>>58575236
Honestly, if Sony was actually worth anything anymore, they would have seen the switch coming, and fully supported the Vita as a direct competitor (maybe even announcing a Vita Slim+ or some shit).

But no, they had to let that beauty die in the West. It was ahead of its time really, only dragged down by awful Sony decisions. Shame too, the tech inside the Vita (especially the original model with that oled) is fucking insane.

>>58575264
I know; the PSP basically defined my teenage years so I was all on board with the VIta. Even Uncharted impressed me, and the gyroscope aiming was incredible combined with the analog sticks. MGS HD collection was GOAT too.

then there was no God of War, no Grand Theft Auto, no Star Wars games... and nothing new. Gravity Rush I guess? Was that supposed to replace patapon and the dozen other gems on the PSP? It really was a shame

I'll be getting a switch because I want zelda and my friends like mario kart; that's about it

hopefully some of those 80 gamesin development are worth something

>>58572450
>It's really underpowered for its current price.
This argument is starting to piss me off. Underpowered compared to fucking what exactly?

I'm sorry, but I really don't know any devices in that form factor that are cheaper, and if you haven't noticed smaller devices with performance tend to cost more than huge fucking slabs of plastic and steel with the same performance.

Pretty soon Nintendo games will be on steam just like Sega.

>>58573974
Not even that much, Lenovo sells a phone with the sd820 for $160 right now.

Most Nintendo products would not really be considered /g/ approved, since Nintendo has a tendency to use older hardware, and does not play well with homebrew groups. If you're going to buy a Switch, buy it because you want to play certain Nintendo games, not because you think it might be a good tech purchase.

>>58572420
>Last gen Tegra X1
It's trash.

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Absolutely not.

>very low 720p res screen
>very weak GPU (~200 GFLOPS of FP32 vs ~400 GFLOPS on adreno 530 found on most phones today)
>dogshit 2-3 hour of gameplay battery life

A ton of children and brain damaged people will still buy this turd nintendo has shit out like though.

To top it all off, the games will be cracked and an android nintendo switch emulator will be made.

So just stick with your oneplus 3T/ Samsung S7 and a bluetooth controller if you're still a manchild that likes to play vidya.

>>58575661
If adreno 530 has so many gigaflops, why do all the games on phones look like trash? What's the trick?

>>58575734
lazy devs and thermal throttling
put s835 in the same form factor as the switch and it will have plenty of room for proper heatsink

>>58575661
>720p
>low res

>>58575734
Not using well optimized vulkan

>>58575661
>530
>most phones
I think you mean 406

>>58575734
most phone games are made to run on shit phones to get more sales
It's like asking why devs aren't making games that run only on titan xp

>>58572420
Dead.
On.
Arrival.

>>58572678
>360 not the most powerful

>>58575734
We have more than angry birds and minecraft now, dipshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CjbdLyJzzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP2ZnVuLzgE

most of these games are compatible with a bluetooth controller too.

>>58575931
>>58575979
So isn't that essentially saying that performance means nothing? Because it does mean nothing when you're not using it.

>>58576035
Those look worse than Switch games, and Switch games aren't exactly the epitome of graphics.

>>58576035
Honestly I think Monument Valley is way more visually stunning than Asphalt. In the same way Journey looks so much better than any CoD.

>>58576065
No, that's not what it essentially means. The performance still exists and can be utilized by devs who want to use it and exclude shitty third worlders.

Also, you only think Switch games look better because you're a fan of the franchises. They're both technically on par. That shit rendering distance in breath of the wild is absolutely horrendous.

>>58576065
>Those look worse than Switch games, and Switch games aren't exactly the epitome of graphics.
Nigga those games are running at 1440p while the switch has to output its shitty games at tiny 720p low res screen. Anyway as phones get better there will be more and more vidyas with better graphics to play.

>>58572438
This better be b8

>>58576116
It can't be utilized if there is no thermal capacity for it, though? If your device is gonna overheat and throttle when you utilize the full performance, the performance is useless.

>>58576129
Yea and resolution doesn't automagically make them look any good. Still looks garbage. And it doesn't look like they are running even 30 FPS.

I don't get the appeal of smartphone games at all. I have a high end smartphone and every time I tried to play a game on it, it was frustrating and shit because of the handicapped controls.

>>58574149
And what would happen with the older models? Throw them away?
They aren't gonna come out with upgrades.

>>58576255
Newer models will probably just have better battery life and lower price.

>>58576284
That wasn't what this anon said though. This will happen but it will not get hardware upgrades.

>>58576339
Not defending his point, just stating the likely course.

It could get slightly faster GPU, since that will give it more stable frame rate. I mean in theory it could also get outright hardware upgrades too, since it's not like games having auto-adjusting settings is alien rocket science to the likes of nvidia and PS4 also does it with the Pro and normal model.

>>58574042
Anon it's launching with no multimedia support. It will be added later, but like you said, any toaster should play Netflix and the switch can't out of the box.

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>>58572420

it´s a FisherPrice toy for you nephew of 5-yeard-old. Real consoles are playstation and xbox with more capabilities.

>>58576370
They "could" make an upgrade, it's not impossible but would be extremely stupid.
A new version would likely be much more powerful then the original model, so games on the new one wouldn't run on the old one.
I feel like the same is gonna happen with the Pro and Scorpio in a couple of years.

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>>58573862

>I'm sorry to bring it to you but this is a home console not a handheld console

it´s a handheld; console is the tablet thing, dock only exist for charging. And look all those marketing of "Go outside"

>>58576412
All games that run on PS4 Pro do run on the normal PS4 though. They even run at higher frame rates in some cases (because the Pro really bloats up them graphics)

And then you have to look at the PC. PC games run on such a wildly varied range of hardware capabilities that it's completely unbelievable.
So while I don't think it's likely that they'll ever release stronger models of the Switch, what I can say for certain that it is neither a stupid idea nor something that is hard to do. Having settings presets for a couple of SKUs, maybe 2 or 3 of them is no problem at all. Nvidia alone has settings presets for more SKUs on Geforce experience.

>>58575959
time to upgrade your 2010 laptop

>>58575661
>720
>bad for a console
>on that small of a screen
eh it's fine
not great but fine
If it were meant as an enthusiast product priced at 900 or 1000 I would have expected pascal with 1440p oled touch or some shit like that

>>58572420
I was going to buy the Shield TV but might be getting this instead if Kodi/Netflix can be supported somehow. It is basically Shield TV with support for Nintendo games or am I wrong about this?

>>58576455
Because the PS4 and Xbox One aren't extremely weak (Compared to the Switch)
It would be a terrible idea for the consumer, you just don't understand what I am trying to say.

>>58572420

/g/ hates everything /v/.

So I'm getting one.

>>58572420
>>58572425
a big ole HELL FUCKING NO

>>58573102
literally last good Nintendo gen

>>58577854
The Switch isn't "extremely weak". You are correct, I have no idea what you're trying to say because what you're saying makes no sense.

>>58577988
>The Switch isn't "extremely weak"
see >>58572636

>>58577341

Netflix is on the WiiU so it would be on the Switch too. The WiiU browser is also dope. It supports playing tons of stuff within the browser.

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>>58572420
>>58572487
>>58573243
>>58573474
Nintendo is a toy company.

>>58572450
Literally $300 it could be just a tablet with controllers and it's hard to call overpriced

They are selling at loss for sure

>>58578030
The Switch won’t support any video-streaming apps like Netflix or Hulu at launch. “All of our efforts have gone toward making the Nintendo Switch system an amazing dedicated video game platform,” the company says, although this functionality is “being considered for a future update.”

>>58573862
This

You plug it into a wall when playing on the go. That's just fine, there are more portable things like your phone for being away from an AC

>>58578027
"Flops" don't translate directly to gaming performance. If they did, AMD would be shitting on nvidia from orbit. It wouldn't even be a competition. Yet that's not what is happening.

>>58572438
>>capacitive touch screen
it's a tablet you numb nuts. But yes, everything else was spot on.

>>58574042
>Yes it does. Toasters can do Netflix and YouTube these days.
nintendo stated it doesn't have ANY multimedia capabilities. There's no netflix, no music or video player, no youtube. Not even a web browser, which is idiotic.
>Launching with atleast 23 titles and shit ton in development. Also people get Nintendo consoles for their games anyway.
launching with 2 titles, with some shovelware/ports nobody wanted/skyrim xD sometime later in the year

>>58578085
Source?

>>58578271
you realize this is almost exactly what people were saying about the Wii U at launch, then it crashed and burned?

can't believe i bought one. then again, 5 player luigi's mansion ghost hunt and 8 player smash was fun a few times.

>>58578271
>nintendo stated it doesn't have ANY multimedia capabilities.
Probably has the capabilities including hardware encoder. Only question is whether Nintendo will make use of them.

>>58578085

The WiiU also didn't support everything at launch. Give it a month or so for the Netflix app to arrive.

>>58578398
The Wii U was released during a time where this shit wasn't expected.

>>58572420
Yes it looks fun. Poorfags will say nk

Buying consoles is for fucking retards anyway. The PC library is so large you could be entertained for decades.

>but this game is coming only to console!
I guarantee you that any game coming to console in the last decade has been done to death on PC in many different ways.

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>>58572420
No but I'm still buying it anyway if SMT V is an exclusive. Hopefully we get Homebrew on it early though so my wallet doesn't get completely milked by the Nintenjews.

>>58576035
>Take a 2000 desktop CPU and add a 2007 desktop GPU
>This is literally what this looks like

>>58577988
Listen you fucking shit head.

THE PS4 AND XBOX ONE CAN HOLD THERE OWN AGAINST THE NEWER CONSOLES BECAUSE THEY ARE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO AT THE VERY LEAST RUN IT AT A LOWER REZ.

THE SWITCH IS CONSIDERED FAIRLY FUCKING WEAK, IT IS UNDERPOWERED, ESPECIALLY IN 2017. IF THEY MADE A MORE POWERFUL VERSION THAT CAN RUN THIRD PART TITLES, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE OLD WEAKER SWITCH? IT WOULD BE FUCKED.

You understand now faggot?

>>58577341
pretty much this, but that online service Nintendo promotes smells paywall from a mile away

>>58578968
>Single child detected
Enjoy being a wet blanket forever

>>58575661
>turd nintendo
>turdtendo
Missed opportunity.

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>any sort of discussion about pc hardware outside of /pcbg/ gets shitposted to death with >>>/v/
>this thread where people are literally talking about videogames is a-ok

/g/ would often recommend ThinkPads back in the early 2010s despite them using cheap plastic, that would form shiny spots, shitty keyboards that would flex, STATIC DITHERED TN PANELS WITH BARELY USABLE RESOLUTIONS AND VIEWING ANGLES, shitty battery life, etc.

Who the hell cares what /g/ thinks about anything?

>>58572425
first post is best post

>>58573344
suck my fucking dick you fucking retard

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>>58572636
>Muh teraflops