>/g/: "mac is for noobs lol" >watch a docu about

>>58559847
>what is front-end

they're all corporate shills, running Linux or only doing it so their normie audience can relate to them

They use them for text editing and other frontend tasks, essentially.

>>58559847
doesnt take the fact that they're still faggots

>>58559879
Corporate shills?
DeepMind is Google not Apple

>>58559888
yeah but still

>>58559847
Mac runs on a linux kernal and work perrty good. Brew works alright but apt and yum are better

>>58560074
>Mac runs on a linux kernal
please be bait

Its like using Linux's power and versatility in a very polished package.

>>58560100
Wow another no nothing college kid shit posting on /g/ about hating mac because it's so cool to hate mac and like chinkpad. Yes it uses a linux kernal you absolute nob

>>58560127
1. A Mac is a device.
2. The kernel is XNU and mean literally "X is Not Unix"
3. I have an asus x751ln
4. I'm out of college for over 10 years
5. fuck you

>>58560127
Lol macOS uses XNU which is nothing like the Linux kernel. They don't have even close to the same design.
I think you meant to say that macOS is Unix-based.

>>58560127
nice meme :^)

>>58559847
Go to any Silicon Valley startup. If you can find more than 2 software devs using a non-Macbook, you've found a unicorn.

Trojans for Mac work better in cases when the macfag thinks he's actually safe.

>>58560103
>using Linux's power
UNIX power.

>>58559847
Don't they overheat like crazy and throttle?

>>58560289

'UNIX' is not an operating system.

>>58560278
in short: COMMON SENSE 2018 PRE-ALPHA BETA IS REQUIRED TO USE ANY COMPUTER WITH ANY OS. >:3

>>58560303

No, where'd you get that information?

>>58560311
Sure it isn't, kid
*pats lil' head*

>>58559847
>"""""""""""""""""""engineers''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' working in 100% pure distilled meme ´´´technology``` are using macbooks

pottery if you ask me m'lord.

advertisting + event organisation vs the probably like 6 guys who actually do the AI

>>58560336
>neural networks are a meme
anon pls

>>58560375
They were in the 70's what changed?

>>58560394
More computational power. RSA was deemed a meme by UK intelligence in 70s. It works now.

>>58559847
Being a proficient professional does not imply that you know your way around computers

I can give you multiple examples, MD's, lawyers, accountants.

OK a Machine learning dev should know their way around computers, right, RIGHT?? No matey, thats not the way the world works.

Ever heard that phrase "doctor are the worst patients"? Well, after years of IT field work, lemme tell you, some devs are the worst IT users.

Or let me put it that in a mundane way: Being proficient and useful in one field of human knowledge doesnt imply that you can excel at another one. You know, like Michael Jordan sucking big time at golf

>>58560334

It is not a single operating system. You cannot 'install "UNIX"' onto your machine. It is a family of standard-sharing operating systems you stupid cunt.

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>>58559847

>>58560426

Can you explain the problem? If these gentlemen use macOS for what they need to do, and it works, how are they wrong in what they're doing? Are you just a retarded poor autist?

>>58560578
>t. mactoddler

>>58560549
Much like how Linux isn't an operating system and is, instead, another free component comprising a complete operating system as defined by POSIX?

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>>58560303
Yes.

>>58560549
Oh you got me with the UNIX vs Unix autismo rant.
Good job. Run along now.
*pats head and sends you back to the kids table*

You can code and compile shit on just about any machine. The exact same thing can be done on a computer running Linux or Windows, it doesn't matter. Doesn't mean that OSX isn't a barely usable piece of shit for hipsters, nor does it change the fact that MacBooks have mediocre specs compared to other laptops of the same price range and build quality. Try again.

>>58559847
they are doing important work and want to use a reliable operating system, and they want to do it on something other than linux. Windows is not an option, these guys aren't gaymers.

>>58560578
>implying
>implying everywhewre
OP is asking for an explanation of the "conflicting" situation of some devs using macs.

So, some devs using macs doesnt automatically validate the rest of the userbase.

Or some devs using it changes my point of view on the platform? no, it does not.

If mac serves their purpose, good for them.

>>58560630

>*pats head and sends you back to the kids table*

This isn't Reddit. Fuck off, retard.

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>>58560303
from based manlet

>>58560323
>>58560785

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>>58560323

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MBP is great as long as you don't have to pay for it.
Given that any non-shit job would supply you with a laptop of your choosing, price becomes a non-issue for any professional.

>>58560785
He had me at "Reballing is BULLSHIT!"

Based Louis

>>58560885
>price becomes a non-issue for any professional.
This.

Why settle for throttling overheating apple trash when you don't have to?

>>58559847
>explain this, /g/
Poorfags, burger-flipping teenagers and children addicted to video games.

>>58560954
You forgot the mid 2000's era hobbyist/white box builder/PC repair guy that loves to hold on to the past.

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>>58560426
speaking of doctors, I think you should see one

>>58559847
I don't care what anyone says about the OS, their hardware is top tier for laptops

>>58561033
>throttling housefire trash
>top tier

This is how delusional mactoddlers are.

>>58560651
>Doesn't mean that OSX isn't a barely usable piece of shit for hipsters
>a barely usable piece of shit
>a barely usable
>barely usable

please fuck off and come back when you have something worthwhile to say

>>58559847
Linus runs Linux on a Mac. As do a lot of Kernel devs...

>>58561345
no

>>58559847
I worked at a tech company that did all Macs. Here's the real reason.

Tech companies already know you as a programmer want a UNIX/Linux OS. OSX provides that. But buying all MacBooks for your employees WAAAYYY simplifies IT administration. Instead of having 5,000 people with different Linux distribution, everybody is just on one OS.

Security is another big issue at the corporate level. OSX arguably will be updated faster than any Linux distribution if a major security vulnerability is made public, which in many companies' cases can end up costing millions when a major bug is actually used as an exploit.

There are many more reasons companies use MacBooks, but when you get down to it, when you're equipping thousands of people who each cost your company 150k a year and carry around billions in intellectual property, you consider more things than initial laptop purchase cost.

>>58560651
>>58561544
>OSX
It's called macOS, not OS X.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS

>>58561655
>t. mactoddler

>>58561544
>I worked at a tech company that did all Macs.
You mean like IBM did?

>>58560237
Even saying it's Unix-based wouldn't make sense when talking about the kernel since XNU is a recursive abbreviation that means XNU is Not Unix.

>>58559847
Gay team
Like we bleeding edge of design
But i use mac os cuz i think différent
But same a millions of people lolz
Running linux in WM

My company in Austin has all macs now, formerly had dell precision laptops. I heard the reasoning was that Apple has a better kickback for the execs. Dev teams were mostly happy because muh status Macbook but performance clearly isn't up to participate with a workstation.

>>58561731
>apple
>giving kickbacks
Is this a post-jobs thing?

>>58559847

/g is full of poor kids raised by single moms on welfare who cant afford Apple products.

>>58561856
>t. mactoddler

They're too dumb to install/maintain GNU/Linux, so they have to settle with OS X.

>>58562000
/thread

>>58562000
Commercial UNIX has always been better than freetard clones of it.

>>58562061
>t. mactoddler

>>58559847
it's attractive hardware

it doesn't matter what your system is when you you interactive with a code repo and all the software is running on a linux vm or docker image in a datacenter somewhere

>>58562141
Then why wouldn't they run chromebooks with a terminal emulator?

>>58562141
>it's attractive hardware

Spotted the dick sucker.

>>58559847
They were paid to use MacBooks in the film.

>>58562227
This.

Apple's software """"engineers"""" are street shitting curryniggers, their hardware engineers are literal brain dead morons that can't make a proper cooling system, or a phone that doesn't bend or explode, but you have to give Apple one thing, their marketing department knows how to sell product.

>>58561544
>OSX arguably will be updated faster than any Linux distribution if a major security vulnerability is made public
>shellshock
jej

>>58559847
other laptops just happen to be worse

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>>58562300
Literally even acer is better than apple trash.

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>>58559847
they are more concerned with content than the container.
If you like using some tool, it appeals to you and your output doesn't matter on what you use, do whatever, cause no one cares. Except /g/.
Grow up.

>>58559847
Thats just front end shit.

Its kind of like construction. Youve got the good looking guys in suits who do the negotiations and the ugly guys in hard hats that do the actual construction.

cant believe people are still trying to use this crap as bait

the reason why they use mac is because of the unix system and they prefer it compared to linux is because it is supported professionally and they dont have to compile their own driver whenever they plug their shit into something

>>58560549
Unix is literally an operating system you dumb cunt. It's just been made into a standard.

You can use Vim on Macs and have access to GNU utilities just like on Linux. This isn't something freetards like to admit. Some of us use both macOS and Linux because beneath the surface, they have many similarities.

>>58562463
>they prefer it compared to linux is because it is supported professionally and they dont have to compile their own driver whenever they plug their shit into something

Do you retards even know what Red Hat is?

>>58560074
>Mac runs on a linux kernal
kys
It's FreeBSD + Mach

>>58562463
>supported professionally

By which you mean "there's a warranty on hardware and software and some semblance of duty to the customer by the company."

Because you know if a software engineer puts Linux on a Latitude, if/when it breaks he'll be talking to an Indian guy named "Steve" for hours or days trying to get service done.

None of these people buy Macs because they particularly like Apple, but because it's not a fucking crapshoot trying to get things fixed.

>>58560852

>getting information from Louis Rossman
>pompous shrimp idiot who's only decent at motherboard repair
>something any pajeet can do

God 4chan loves to suck the dick of anyone who merely presents themselves as any level of neckbeard in front of a camera and parrots their average mannerisms.

>>58560861

>why is my CPU pinned at 100% when compiling source code!! omg maks r so shit never again fuk u steev jobs

Who the fuck would compile software on a laptop? It seems that the problem is you, you the retard and not the machine.

>>58560552
and who pays you to act like a autistic kid online?

>>58560861
What is Photoshop for $600 Alex?

>>58559847
They're great for taking notes on. As you can see in your picture.
>not coding or doing any work, just on webpages and typing notes

>>58563007
>Who the fuck would compile software on a laptop? It seems that the problem is you, you the retard and not the machine.
>b-but you actually tried to be productive with your (((((premium)))) laptop so it's your fault
>implying the fact that it throttles when CPU usage is %100 isn't embarassing and means that the design is bad
>damage controlling this much

>>58561686
macos is the literally last true unix in common use you fucking asstwat of a moron

>>58563232
>can't come up with arguments
>b-but autism

Have a (You)

>>58563214

>>implying the fact that it throttles when CPU usage is %100 isn't embarassing and means that the design is bad

'Productivity', ah yes, its doing what you want isn't it? It can't defy the laws of physics you know. I don't know why I'm being baited but, any laptop which gets pinned at 100% CPU utilization for a little bit will begin to throttle. No laptops are meant to dissipate heat for prolonged periods, you fucking moron. Why don't you go configure your rainbow LEDs on your Martianware X17 Classified XTr3EME.

Alternatively, you can show me a laptop that doesn't thermally throttle when compiling code. I'll wait.

>>58561655
>It's called macOS, not OS X.
Depends which version you are talking about.

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>>58563267
(((Panjesh))) please

Mac offers a sleek, POSIX-compliant environment with decent hardware and an OS that just werks. A lot of the benefits of Linux without having to do stupid shit like edit xorg.conf or hand-exit hexadecimal just to get wireless working (true story when i installed ubuntu on a newer thinkpad)

>>58563274
>No laptops are meant to dissipate heat for prolonged periods, you fucking moron
>my shiny toy can't do it so no laptop on the market can do it

You sound upset anon. Even my N53SM with a 2670qm(45w TDP) doesnt throttle under full load, in fact it even turboes a little bit and the temps never exceed 90C.
You seem to forget that there are laptops designed with functionality in mind.

>>58563382
[{(Autismus)}]

>>58563334

>Even my N53SM with a 2670qm(45w TDP) doesnt throttle under full load, in fact it even turboes a little bit and the temps never exceed 90C

Wonderful anecdote but the Mac does the same thing. It also turbos and never exceeds a set temperature limit.

>>58559847
people will use anything in public if they're being paid to do so
it's called "advertising"

>>58563447
See>>58560861

If that wasn't convincing enough

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5823810?tstart=0

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-misconceptions-about-heat-throttling-and-cooling.1720899/

It's really wonderful to see what a simple search can yield

>>58560578
>>58559847

As someone who works in the field, management loves to buy people overpriced toys. This is the tech industry, everyone here loves fancy gadgets. Macbooks just happen to be the most expensive and heavily marketed towards that segment so they eat that shit up. Personally I thought they were good 5-6 years ago when they removed the DVD drive and added hidpi displays, but the build quality has declined a lot lately. I would probably recommend to new developers to get a windows machine these days.

>>58563447
Also see >>58560604

>>58563007
>Who the fuck would compile software on a laptop? It seems that the problem is you, you the retard and not the machine.
i know, right? actually using your computer is soooo 1990's, macbooks are just to make you look good while picking up men

>>58559847
They're also drinking Voss water. What do you make of that?

>>58560127
not even god can help you.

>>58562141
there's nothing more attractive than raw computing power.

>>58563931
That's not what she said.

>>58559847
Some people like to get shit done. macOS/osx give you a unix environment similar to linux except everything isn't broken all the time.

IBM found that giving their employees macbooks instead of windows laptops saved $400 per user, I think over 4 years.

I work with a lot of developers that use macbooks.
Do you know what their #1 program is?
VMware.

>>58559896
>Google not Apple
You say that as if it changes anything.

>>58560074
>Mac runs on a linux kernal
kek

>>58560219
>>58560237
>>58560259
>>58563910
>kernal
>falling for his bait this badly

>>58560127
hahahahahahahahaha, apple users say the darnedest things.

>>58564484
>apple users say the darnedest things.
If he was an Apple user he'd probably know the Mac uses a Hybrid XNU kernel, not that lame, home-made thing Linux has/is.
You've been trolled.

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Soooo much hate.

>>58559847
Link to this documentary? Thanks in advance.

>>58565590
it's not hate, it's spreading facts over miss-information.

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>>58559879
>running Linux
They are clearly running MacOS.

>>58560237
>nothing like the Linux kernel. They don't have even close to the same design.
What is the biggest difference?

>>58566059
Most Unix OS's switched to microkernel architecture when being developed in the late 80's early 90's, such as Minix, DEC Tru64, NEXT and OS X. Linux was stuck using a crappy monolithic shit, because Linus can't code.

Ragging on Apple is great and all.

But if you don't want to have a macbook for your portable development needs, what are some manufacturers that can offer the same level of build quality and portability?

I am not an Apple shill, don't own a macbook, but I am happy to admit that the one good thing about them is their build quality/overall hardware quality.

>>58561884


Oh and autists

https://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/google-to-employees-mac-or-linux-but-no-more-windows/

>>58566432
a "lightly" used thinkpad with a man-sized bezel and a Magnesium Alloy® Roll Cage™

>>58559847
The kind of computing power AlphaGo required extends from vast clouds running thousands of CPU cores and GPUs.

Of course, you can write the code on anything, punch cards if you like.

>>58559847

Dunno what all these other replies are but:

The answer is that they use the MBP because it is aesthetic, easy to use, and they remotely access dozens of machines with various OSes to work via SSH and such. When not remotely accessing various machines running various OSes they can use the MBP to code, text edit, email, etc.


tl;dr MBP is a great platform for getting simple tasks done as well as remotely accessing other machines while working on projects.

>>58566743
>t. mactoddler

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>>58566743
>simple tasks
>remote access

$2000 terminal emulator

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>>58566432
>same level of build quality

>>58563152
(You)

>>58566791

>Macbook Air == Macbook Pro

kek. The airs are basically kids toys.

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>>58566815
Macs are basically kids toys.

>>58566791
>look at what this shill wrote on some sticky notes guys
maybe later I'll show you my w520 that literally fried its own speakers from shitty engineering and the broken plastics from being in a bag for its entire life
oh and the shit trackpad that came apart and the fingerprint reader that just decided to die randomly

>>58567250
>t. mactoddler

>>58566791
>>58567250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAmnV65_zw

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>>58559847
They're not hopelessly enamored with the precise look and feel of their start menu. They're not eternally distracted by tinkering with the inconsequential inner workings of their tools. They're utilitarians ... realists. They value parsimony. They don't make a hobby of fastening graphics cards into their motherboards, of discussing the minute differences between the most recently released consumer-grade random access memory sticks, of error-message deciphering. They are focused on an end goal -- the means to these ends are secondary. That's why practically anyone worth their salt, focused on the act of creation, of envisioning, of bringing new things into reality, prefers a Macintosh machine. It's just the way it is. The rabble, the underlings, the uncreative, well, they pine from the sidelines for our entertainment. I cackle with delight, when I see the impotent rage directed towards the superior Macintosh machine, and towards those that imagine new realities with them.

>>58568067
distilled autism

>>58568084
Eloquent writing is autism now! Sound the echo-chamber alarm, someone just blew your narrow-minded perspective out of the water. High discourse has no place here! You're more comfortable slinging default-mode accusations at anyone that elegantly presents a conflicting opinion. "If you can't beat 'em, meme 'em". This is your outlook on life. This is the axiom that your flawed thought process abides by. Can't say I wasn't anticipating this wholly juvenile dismissal. Sit down, man

>>58568067
>They're not hopelessly enamored with the precise look and feel of their start menu. They're not eternally distracted by tinkering with the inconsequential inner workings of their tools. They're utilitarians ... realists. They value parsimony. They don't make a hobby of fastening graphics cards into their motherboards, of discussing the minute differences between the most recently released consumer-grade random access memory sticks, of error-message deciphering. They are focused on an end goal -- the means to these ends are secondary. That's why practically anyone worth their salt, focused on the act of creation, of envisioning, of bringing new things into reality, prefers a Macintosh machine.

Very true, except 99.5% of those who use mac just spends time on facebook, no value "artistic" and unimportant shit. That doesn't make using a mac is elite.

I know its bait but If i take your post seriously, a 2g phone is for serious business because terrorists actually get their job done instead of posting on 4chan and facebook and missing bomb calls.

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>>58562315
> posting outdated shit
> "benchmarks"

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I'm just leaving this here.

>>58568736
>>58568772
The shills are in full force today.

>>58559847
AI engineers don't actually work on AI. They take the researcher's work and they put it on the website or make a demo around it, etc. Now that you know, you won't do that mistake again. The more you know! TM!

And an additional protip. Deepmind is very, very far from cutting edge on average. They have gems like alphago, DRAW and the NTM, but the great majority of their work is jiwei li submitting the exact, same, identical paper every 2 months, for example. Also take the dnc. It's literally just a shitty version of the dntm and isn't even remotely deserving of the nature publication it got.

>>58559847
dude GOOGLE LMAO

>>58559847
>deep learning
kek

>AI engineer
>deep learning tech
So basically, stupid non-technology bullshit that will never amount to anything. Sounds about like a Mac.

>>58568868
You're using deep learning algorithm every single day without even realizing it.

>>58561321
>please fuck off and come back when you have something worthwhile to say

You literally just repeated shit he said, that's it. Holy shit you're retarded. Posting replies from your shitbook, I assume?

>>58568878
Oh really, kid? Tell me how I'm using the biggest buzzword garbage on the planet again.

>>58562141
what a faggot

>>58560303
Yes they do. Having too many Chrome tabs will fuck it up.

>t. revived a 2012 Air

>>58568898
Your ads are delivered according to deep learning algorithms.
Google search engine? Powered by deep learning.
OCR? Almost definitely powered by deep learning.
When you deposit your cheque at the bank and it knows the amount, that's deep learning too.
Google Allo, cortana, siri and maluuba use deep learning.
Self-driving cars are exclusively deep learning but we all know you don't use them.
Ever livechatted with sales rep lately? I can guarantee you they were using deep learning for at least the first half of your conversation.
Got a scanning app on your phone? Deep learning.
Face detection, such as for auto-focus? Deep learning.
Your antivirus also uses deep learning for heuristic threat detection.
Google translate is deep learning.
Photo applications like google's use deep learning.

>>58569013
tim cook is going to be deep analizing your gaping butthole later you stupid buzzword-loving faggot

>>58569090
I accept your surrender.

>>58559847
I work Intel. I have both mac and linux. At home I code in linux with comfy keyboard. When I go out, I take mac with me and login to my linux machine for any reference. It is automatic reflex to carry out apple and show off and fool people. Nobody wants to show off their riced linux unless it is anonymous space like 4chan.
Why do pajeets ask stupid question in /g and shit whole place?

>>58560074
>macOS
>Linux kernel
Too high for this shit man

>>58559847
Deep learning is a fad for posers though.

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data "scientist" here

I used a MBP for 7 years, spending 99% of my time in Chrome and iTerm2. I switched one day when I realized that I felt physically relieved when I SSH'd into a box on EC2 and used apt. I have flinch reflex from using homebrew, because it is such garbage. It is the second-worst "package" "manager" after pip.

Now I'm running 99% of the exact same shit on a T460 in 16.04 LTS like a *nix pleb and loving every minute.

tl;dr 99% of us outside of game dev could probably get by with a Chromebook that had vim and a terminal, so just use Ubuntu

>>58570225
Forgot one caveat: need a VM for Tableau :(

>>58559847
Macbooks are trash, they use them because the company tells them to and pays for them.

>>58560651
>and build quality
lmao, retard

say what you will about apple, their QC is a generation ahead of dell/hp/lenovo

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>>58571799
>applel trash
>QC

>>58560651
>b-but muh specs
lmao fuck off you straw grasping gamertard

>>58571922
>b-b-but muh apel logo

>>>/fa/
>>>/lgbt/

>>58559871
>what is butt-hurt

>>58571920
shit in the restroom please raj

>>58559847
These people are not real engineers and don't know shit about hardware. Literally CS fags

signed,
a computer engineer who hates macfags

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>>58571799
It's not, but they pretend it is.

>>58571925
>that's literally all you have
/g/ is like the most pathetic board for banter on this site
not even kidding

>>58571920
>hot enough to heat pizzas
>builds oven out of foam board

>>58571929
>computer engineer
>still takes babby's first technical debate topic seriously
you're not fooling anyone, don't worry though when you reach 200-level classes in community college you'll eventually realize how dumb you really are

>>58568067
>>58568114
what this guy said basically

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>>58560074

>>58560426
your point isn't wrong as much as it is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand, because MDs and lawyers and accountants do not have to program, yet devs do have to program, and programming is the essence of IT.

>>58565072
>home-made
Actually, unlike macOS' kernel which is a patchwork of different kernels glued together, Linux was built from the ground up and is by a huge margin the most used kernel in the world.

>>58560311
Yes it is.

>>58559847
Many people do this because you can have OSX Linux and Windows on the same machine without the headache of hackintosh. It makes it a hell of a lot easier to test your shit across the board.

>>58575636
Exactly. OP is amazed that people who develop for the 3 major OS's buy the only machines that run all 3.

>>58560127
'Kernel' is the word you are looking for... 'knob'.

>>58560219
its a recursive acronym its not "X is not Unix" what the fuck would "X" be? its "xnu not unix" as in "GNU" "gnu not unix"

>>58564404
Literally this. The level of support Apple offer is unmatched by another other competitor, Linux or windows based. Get a company that sells high quality hardware, with walk in shops near by, and I guarantee you no one will care about the os

You have to remember that most applications used in business settings are available on more than one os

t. Apple seller @ IBM

i use Windows 7 and I have a 91 percent winrate in League of Legends this season

>>58576088
Does Apple offer on-site technical support?

>>58564404
That's weird, if Linux breaks all the time why is it used by the most stable systems in the world, including the entire worldwide banking system? Maybe you're just too dumb to use it.

>>58561544
>OSX arguably will be updated faster
perpetual outdated openssh

>>58561544
>Security is another big issue at the corporate level.
overwhelming number of companies don't report shit when they're hacked.

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>Designed by Apple in California :)

>>58576088
>>58564404
This is what mactoddlers actually believe.

>>58559896
Google empolyees are not allowed to run a windows based operating system. Apple's OSX provides a UNIX alternative with proper customer support.

>>58560549
Unix is the standard, UNIX is the copyright. OSX is certified UNIX while GNU/linux is Unix.

>>58559847
No matter what kind, a computer is a tool to one and a toy to another.
Professionals use their macs for different things than the white girl at starbucks that /g/ hates does.

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>>58577730
>t. mactoddler that thinks his fruity toddler toy abomination of bsd+xus+next+mach frankenturd piece of shit + a piece of paper makes it unix

>>58577824

>sent from my RGB LEDs

>>58566432
HP Elitebook/ZBook, Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad, Dell Precision/Latitude.

>>58577824
There's been other mach based UNIX's you no nothing cock gobbler.

>>58579862
There are no Mach based UNIXs because the entire point of Mach was to develop a UNIX-compatible kernel for BSD you "no" nothing mactoddler.

>>58559847
Why do they look like fags? I guarantee I could smash either of their heads in in seconds.

>>58579895
>what is DEC and Tru64
I know it was before your time, kiddo. But it ran on Alphastations which was a UNIX workstation developed at a time when your mom was still giving your dad amazing handjobs.

>>58579922
don't imply untrue things anon
the only head smashing going on here is against your dick