Anyone else replacing their 2500K with a ryzer POOcessor?

No.
I'd like to replace my 3930k (4,4) though, but I doubt zen is the answer.

probably going to wait and let rpoozen mature for a few iterations of poo+ and then replace my 4460 with the latest intel offering since they'll have gotten on their feet again by then, unless AMD's integrated graphics solution is somehow better than Intel's in terms of Linux performance/functionality which I sincerely doubt it will be..

>>58526636
been waiting for something new. have a 3550 running 4.0ghz all cores and it's been a soldier. zen might be my guy.

>>58526636
i would buy zen for $300 for 16T version

>>58526636
replacing my Athlon 64 X2 desktop with Zen

I'm currently using a laptop with Intel Core i5-2410m

>>58526636
Ryzen will replace my i7 870

I will buy one for my secondary pc. Dont know yet if it will be a mini itx build tho

Hoping it's a decent upgrade from my 3570K. My poorfag weed addict mate needs an upgrade, so hopefully Ill sell him mine.

>>58526636
Zen will replace my 8320

why would one replace a 2500k with something inferior

>>58527666
Are you that retarded?

>>58527114
lol, in your dreams, maybe, and that's a big maybe.

Even 500~600 is a maybe.

>>58527666
>>58527666
>why would one replace a 2500k with something inferior

Citation needed.

>>58527673
t. AMD Dick Suck

>>58527704
I never bought anything from AMD.

>>58527678
Still worth.

>>58526739

>Intel Integrated Graphics
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3147846/computers/intel-may-use-amd-gpus-to-challenge-nvidias-rising-power.html

>>58526636
considering i can still run almost anything with my current budget system, i fail to see the reason to upgrade at all for the forseeable future.

yes a fx 8320e (budget shit as fuck less than 100 bucks) and an rx470 can run just about anything at reasonable settings at 1080p. Gonna upgrade my ram to 16 gb 2133mhz and ill likely be set for a few years yet.

Honestly there simply isnt much compelling that can't be done with any current fx cpu...let alone a decent intel offering. I mean as an admitted amd fan its good to see them cmpetitive again but software as of now doesnt need much more than i have, and thats if anything comes out that must have for gaming.

As far as day to day non gaming computing is concerned theres even less reason to care...everything I do is already very fast and effecient. Why the hell should most of us even care?

If anything we should be more excited for current fx 8-core sale prices IMO

>>58527297
This is me also, although the xeon equivilent. Motherboard is on it's last legs and it's displaying weird coloured squares instead of a standard post screen, shit really needs to go, slow ram, pcie2, sata2, usb3 on a card and onboard network port often just stops working.

Want a £300 8 core so I can take my work home really.

>>58526636
I might, if the base 8c/16t model is within my budget and I have a good opportunity to do so.

I have an E5-2670, should I replace that with Zen?

I want to replace my core2quad with a poo in loo processor.

Hoping to replace my 3570k but with what I don't know.

>>58527767
No. Unless you want to overclock, there's almost no reason to spend all these money.

>>58527841
Do it.

>>58526636
Unfortunately I moved from an i5 3550 to my current i7 4790k around two and a half years ago maybe, so no, although I'd love to support AMD by buying a Ryzen CPU, I won't be unless I find a need for a third system; but that's the trouble.
I already have everything necessary to rebuild my old system;
i5 3550, Radeon HD7950, Fractal Design Define R4, Corsair TX750M, 700GB HDD...
So I don't need to buy yet another system.

>>58526646
In the same boat here. I want a worthy upgrade, but to be honest, the 3930k was solid as fuck on release and it still is, I think we have to wait a few years to justify an upgrade.

Doesn't feel like it'll give me enough noticeable performance to upgrade from my E3 1231 V3
I don't edit videos often enough to justify the cost.

Everything in the Adobe suite offloads via CUDA anyways.

One thing I dislike about the 1231-V3 is that it only hits 3.6ghz on all 4 cores, it can supposedly hit 3.8ghz on the first 2 cores but I've rarely seen it hit even 3.7ish.

I even forced the multiplier to x38 for all four cores in the bios on my Z97.

Good thing I'm not really a gamer or I would be so pissed that I didn't go for i7 K or waited for sky/kaby.

My friend's i5-6600 hits 3.9ghz on all 4 cores and gets better FPS than me using the same gpu.

Currently rocking a Phenom II 965BE.
Will upgrade to Ryzen during spring

>>58527737
>Honestly there simply isnt much compelling that can't be done with any current fx cpu...

perhaps for you, if you were a power user having a 2x improvement per core and double the threads might come in handy, I guess all you do is watch youtube and play games from 2005

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>>58527725
HD 530s are faster than A10 7850K APUs the 6670/4870/R7 240

>>58527725
Intel only licenses general sht like what is gpu or texture unit because amerifat patent laws are fucking retarded. Their gpus are nothing like nvidia and won't use radeon tech either.

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>>58526636
Which ever company comes out with an IGP/APU that is VR capable and comes in at under 140W ( under 100W is probably wishful thinking) will be the game changer.

I think it's pretty possible... we already have 45~65W 4 core cpus, that leaves 75~95W for a VR capable IGP.

The GTX 1060 is already so close to that TDP envelope.

Imagine, anyone being able to buy something as small as an Intel NUC, fully capable of 1080P and VR-ready.

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I've got an i7 920 I got yoinks ago hoping to futureproof myself. It's done its job but now I'm starting to feel the pinch a little bit.

Got any advice on what would be a good upgrade at this point? Not especially keen on moving off Windows 7 either.

>>58526636
Is Ryzen actually a worthy processor?

>>58526636
I need something with 4 cores and hyper-threading or 8 cores. I don't care what tech illiterate /g/ says. My 4.4Ghz 3570k and 1866 mhz ram bottleneck my 1070 gtx in games like GTA 5, Witcher and Watchdogs at 2560x1080.

>>58528470
Ryzen and Kaby are only supported by Win10

Skylake has half assed W7 support but that depends on the motherboard manufacturer.

Not replacing my 2690v3

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>>58528488
Only if you need 16 threads for realtively cheap.

>>58528495
This is fud. They work perfectly fine on 7, they just won't get igpu drivers and microcode updates through windows update. Like that even matters.

>>58528495
Same deal with Ryzen I'm guessing?

>>58528498
You wont need an upgrade for another 5 years at least. This processor is a beast.

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>>58528489
Enjoy your no FPS increase.

>>58528498
What's your setup? Are you using this machine for just one OS?

>>58528541
Shill

>>58528541
Like I said I don't care what your illiterate ass says I'll do it anyway. I see those frame drops and spikes with my very own eyes as the CPU usage skyrocketed to 100% in any modern game that's CPU heavy. Try running GTA at anything higher than 2x MSAA with few mods installed or custom radio enabled and see what happens.

>>58528585
You're right. Don't listen to these fags.

>>58528541
>GTX 980
>different generation of core architectures compared together
>no i5 for reference like the guy you are replying to actually has

Useless graph desu. Even if no GPU bottlenecks were present, and I doubt there aren't some even at 1080p with a deprecated 980 in GTA V, that graph seems to be showing less less load/core as the number of cores increases. If your point is that only the % workload on the slowest thread matters then that's not the case. That's not a reliable indicator of CPU bottlenecks.

>>58527678
When AMD has been consistently hinting that there will be an 8 core Zen priced againts a 6700k since the New Horizon event and throughout CES, why not? Also, have you even seen the position AMD is currently into? Why the hell do people think if Intel had it's way with their overpriced lineup AMD will follow? People are mostly looking forward to something that is more than 4 cores and/or has SMT, AMD knows this and will price and undercut accordingly.

>>58528512
You also don't get Intel Speedshift and other little features, which does effect performance. Theres other things like HEVC 4K/8K for streaming Netflix and other under the hood features.

Not a 2500K, but C2D here. Can't wait for Zen, hope it's cheap.

>>58528312
>6600k using OC'd DDR4 vs stock clock DDR3 for the 7850K in a CPU intensive game
>A-AMD BTFO, r-right guys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ybo8OlZXC4
A12-9800 w/ DDR4-2133, 45fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs72-a3EolM
HD 530 w/ DDR4-2133, cinematic 30fps

>>58528643
>under the hood features
yeah botnets lmao

>>58528630
Easy, because AMD had the FX-9590 at $920 USD against the i7-3960X's $999

$300 for 16T like that guy was wishing for? NOPE, maybe the 4C8T version, certainly not the 16T if it can actually go against 6900K.

>>58527704
t. Isaac

>>58528676
No one would get an AMD proccessor then when you can just get an Intel one.

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>>58528648
Sweet, it's finally caught up to IRIS Pro

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>>58528627

I need something thats cheaper or same money but better than a 6500/6600k fpr gayming mostly otheriwise no buy.
So I hope ryzen delivers.

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>tfw i7 master race

>>58528421

Thats amd when they bring hbm to igpu.

I'm guessing 470/480 performance from the cpu.

So will it be any better than the 2500k?

>>58528676
again, the 9000 lineup was weird, it has a 3 month period where it was around 1000$, but the only msrp I can find semi officially is amd wiki of 260$
Did amd release a consumer version, or was this just oem selling the cpus instead of using them because they wanted a quick buck for something most people didn't have access to? never been able to confirm 100% what the fuck was going on with that.
that said 300$ is a pipe dream, but the range of 300-400 is a distinct possibility, amd has said 'if we price it at 500$ we just bring the price of performance down, if we price match the i7, we change the industry'
If amd was smart, and they kind of are, they wrote the consumer market off entirely. single die gpus are shitty spec wise outside of their ability to compute, they have less of everything intel has, I believe even on their i7 lineup, and get crushed by the i7-e outside of compute. These are bottom binned cpus that could not make it in enterprise. so sell them at profit, but how many do you want to sell, you want to sell a couple undercutting intel? you want to sell a few more price matching a 6 core? or do you want to upset the entire industry in a way that intel likely has no possible answer for?
Amd puts the 8 core out at 700$, intel can drop the skylake 8 core down a tier to 500$ and negate all of amds potential, and amd will likely lower their 8 core to a bit lower then 500, so fucking what, at that point you just buy the intel 8 core or a 6 core for cheaper because its known.
amd at 500$ is near the same, they price out of the range of mainstream by to much to gain traction.
but if they go 8 cores for i7 price, now you have a cpu that is not only fast enough for games, but also massive head room for other things at the same time, and the few games that scale well, intel wont have an answer cheap enough, and likely on their next cpus, wont have an answer either.
you get a 2-3 generation win if amd goes for i7 price matching on the consumer parts

>>58528288
a 8320e will push almost any game to 60fps, and like he said, reasonable settings, he isn't going for 60+hz. modern games that multi core will easily shine on it, and older games run good enough.

>>58527737
you may consider it just for the sake of alleviating the cpu as a potential bottleneck, when the cpu gets bottlenecked, that's when gaming becomes painful, when the gpu gets bottlenecked, it just stops shitting out more fps.

>>58528488
compute, it looks like its within 4% ipc matching broadwell, potentially it clocks higher then it too with more oc headroom but that's just speculation on es's that keep showing faster and faster clocks that are apparently within the 95w limit.

it many not beat an i7 at peak oc, so not the best gaming cpu, but real 8 cores and 16 threads opens a fuck load of headroom.

considering you could use just a quad core cpu for what, 7-8 years and there is currently little outside of rendering that uses 16 threads fully, the 8 core may be a cpu you can use till something big happens in computers, and I personally can't think of anything that wouldn't be offloaded to the gpu anyway.

>>58528585
turn off the advanced settings, the engine is not capable of running them and they are separate for a reason.

beyond that, gta kind of sucks for optimization.

>>58528643
The HEVC decode is only 8bit kaby does 10bit or is still 8 bit. You're really grasping at straws though with the missing features bit.

>>58528750
that chart is a flat out lie, I have a phenom II 955 at 3.2, gta barely runs above 20fps at 1920x1080 and it is a cpu issue, gpu is not fully utilized.

though it could also be ram as i'm on ddr2 was 8gb 800mhz now 16gb 766 or 666, I forget what I downclocked the shit to to make it work.

>>58528006
>>58527767
Likely you could, in a synthetic load a 6900 is about 50% faster than what you have, and amd is matching it.

look up the blender demo and how to set that up and compare what you get to the 6900 and wait for amd reviews.

>>58528224
in a synthetic load, a 6900 doubles your cpu's performance, and amd looks to be matching that at least, i'd still wait on reviews, but getting a new cpu wouldn't be completely uncalled for.

>>58529405
>though it could also be ram as i'm on ddr2
It probably is. IIRC, phenom II had two memory controllers, one for DDR2 and one for DDR3. Wouldn't be surprising if the review site was using an AM3+ board with DDR3.

>>58529508
Yea, had a choice when my old pentium 4 died to go ddr3 or reuse my ddr2 and I was VERY pressed for cash so stuck on ddr2 sense.

got 16gb for 30$ though, can't complain to much.

>>58528643
oc the processor so the base clock is always higher, speed shift no longer matters, likely going to be the same with ryzen and its self oc thing if that is something controlled by os and not something else.

>>58528514
won't know for sure for a bit, but likely win 10 bullshit.

should I sell my 7700k when these come out

>>58529526
>Pentium 4
>DDR2 when you could have bought DDR3
History of making poor choices then? Joking aside, the DDR2/DDR3 compatibility was seriously cool.

>>58529585
of course not

you're looking at a sidegrade at best

>>58529192
I'm expecting the 8C/16T to be around the $500-600 mark if it really is as good as the 6900K, any lower than that and it will force Intel to react.

Intel has a large enough profit margin and sitting on enough bank to react swiftly and sharply.

Intel could just enable HT on their next i5s and sell them for $180 like they do on their current i5s, if they wanted to, but they don't, but if AMD undercuts them enough to force them to react...

Likely scenario is that AMD brings two more cores for the same price as Intel's offerings.

Ryzen 6C/12T against i7
Ryzen 4C/8T against i5
APU/2C/4T against i3/Pentium HT (Kaby Lake Pentium has HT)

$300 for 8C/16T is wishful thinking.
Maybe 6C/12T for $350

All things considered do you /g/uys think we will have significant CPU advancement within the next 5 years to warrant an upgrade from the 6700k?

Bought into the fx-4350 meme 4 years ago now, so I could use an upgrade. Despite FX series having shit ipc I rather didn't mind the 4350. Let me have multiple browsers, music player, and email open while I played gaymens or some compiling/school work. Something my friends i3 of the same gen had trouble with. So I'll be happy with Zen.

>>58529653
>APU/2C/4T against i3/Pentium HT (Kaby Lake Pentium has HT)
4C/4T ryzen is more likely to compete against i3/pentium lines.

>>58529355
10BIT 4K/8K which is why Netflix requires it.
Kaby supports 10-bit HEVC, the 4K codec used by Netflix and other streaming services. Currently, only Intel's seventh generation Kaby Lake processors support 10-bit HEVC decoding.

Don't underestimate the amount of people who use Netflix lol.

Still using an A8-5500. Someone kill me.

>>58528421
>VR
Meme.

>>58529405
>>58529508
>>58529526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnI6yokvVdk

Ram speed will kill a CPU's potential.

i keep my 2500k because its fast enough. and i have no money

>>58529723
What do you mean?

>>58529653

This is the most reasonable pricing, though I think they will have a lower binned 8c/16t for something like 499 while the top bin TRIPLE XXX BLACK DONGLES X GAMING X 8C/16 OC will be around 600. They have been experimenting with a 4c/4t part, so that might be the lowest chip they offer.

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>>58529644
Should have bought a motherboard with both DDR2/DDR3 support.

GA-P35C-DS3R was RADICAL back in the day.

>>58529702
AMD needs to make a 3C/6T Ryzen for the lulz.

>>58528750
Would be interesting to see some frame time variance instead of >muh fps.

>>58529727
so would having more RAM speed increase CPU speed, or is there diminishing returns?

>>58529708

No, the reason why 4k streaming is only being allowed on Kaby Lake is because of DRM. Any modern GPU can decode 10bit 4k no problem, but Kaby Lake has some proprietary shit going on, and content providers are scared to offer 4k streaming because of rips kek. So the good goys at Intel got the exclusive right to decode 4k Netflix in return for some built in DRM.

>>58529787
Ram speed only matters up to a certain point, after that, diminishing returns.

Back in the DDR2 days overclocking ram was a real thing but now a days, not so much.

>>58529780
IIRC tri-core phenoms were just 4-cores with one module turned off, to increase yields and market coverage. lots of people would successfully turn the 4th core back on and roll with that.

who knows, might happen again.

>>58529789
Only Polaris and Pascal support 10bit HEVC and they're not even 1 yr old.

>>58529859
It was a lottery, AMD was getting awful yields and a lot of them had broken cores, it started out as a marketing ploy to sell you cpus that would otherwise have to be trashed, but it became popular so they took the extra unsold 4 core stock and sold them as tri-cores too.

>>58529692
Not until there's a big software enhancement to make use of MOAR COARS or a successor to x86 is found

>>58529787
You need to consider the system as a whole. It's much the same as the relationship between CPUs and GPUs. If one is significantly better than the other, then you're going to hit a bottleneck.

Zen requires windows 10 so of course not

>>58529958
they said the same of Skylake. turns out everything worked but the ultra-low power modes.

in any case, you could always use a proper grown-up OS.

I'd like to upgrade this summer.

have 3570K and a 1070 though so not sure if it would be worth it to upgrade both. Guess it depends if I manage to get decent money by selling it and Ryzen + vega/1080ti is worth it. Will probably just settle for Ryzen/i7 7700k(just want moar cores) and keep the 1070 though.

generally would prefer to go for AMD but only if performance/price are better or the same as their intel/nvidia equivalents. Ryzen would be my first AMD CPU since Athlon64 in 2006

>>58529984
>turns out everything worked but the ultra-low power modes.
Give up, I've been trying to tell people this for well over a year now. No one will listen to common sense, they prefer to give in to hyperbole. They'd rather complain about the Microsoft conspiracy to spy on them for the evil government.

I have a first gen Pentium 3. Should I even consider upgrading?

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>>58530174
DX12 is enough reason for a lot of people to switch, and stupid programs that pop up with a this operating system is not supported error, which is already starting to become common on Vista.

Gonna replace my i5 750 - I was hoping for Vega to be released sooner, but I'll upgrade as soon as Ryzen hits the market, so I'll go for a Nvidia gpu probably

Intel pentium g4560: On par with i5-2500k for only$65.

http://wccftech.com/intel-pentium-g4560-ultimate-budget-cpu-65-usd/

AYYYMD ON SUICIDE WATCH!!!!!!

>>58530241
>Sensationalism
Seriously, fuck people. Two cores with hyperthreading? I mean, yeah, it's very good for the price but I'd hardly say it's a replacement for the 2500k.

Would like to replace my 875k with anything

>>58530241
*if you cherrypick 720p gaymen benchmarks
*if you don't overclock
*after 6 years

>>58527297
>Ryzen will replace my i7 870
Exactly the same here. New system will be something like:
>Zen 6C/12T
>Mobo: probably Gigabyte UD series
>HSF: Noctua / Be Quiet! tower
>16GB Corsair LPX or G.Skill Trident Z
>SSD: 240-500GB EVO or CS1311 or Ultra II
>HDD: 1-2TB Toshiba P300
>GPU: ... don't really care that much, maybe RX470.. 480.. whatever.
>PSU: 550/650W EVGA G3 or Super Flower Leader II
>Case: Nanoxia DS3 or Be Quiet Silent Base 600 or some Fractal
>Fans: Be Quiet! Pure Wings 2 or NF-A14

>>58529754
wow

That's actually pretty cool.

>replace a perfectly good processor with one that only supports Windows 10
why the fuck would you do that

>>58528735
Holy kek, same performance for $130 less. RIP Intel. Ryzen + Vega will gas the kikes

>>58529475
>implying

Thinking of replacing my i7 950 with it if AMD shows competency.

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>>58526636
I'm on a 2600k at 4.3 ghz.

I would only consider replacing it with Ryzen if it clocks as high and has the same IPC as Skylake, or is significantly cheaper.

I game on 1440p so the gpu, even with a 980ti is the bottleneck, a new cpu + ram would net me some profits but I would be better off spending that money selling my 980ti and getting a 1080ti/vega chip when they launch.

Same story it has been for several years.

replacing mobo/cpu/ram would cost me about 600 euro, for my old stuff I might get 200 euro. So that's 400 euro for an 8% uplift. For that money and the old money from my 980ti I could get a 50-70% boost by going for a 1080ti

>>58532621
IPC of Ryzen CPU is higher than Skylake's.

>>58532621
>50-70% boost
Top kek

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>>58528627
>980
>Deprecated
NVIDIA LOGIC

>>58532689
It doesn't matter if they can't get it to 4.5 ghz

>>58532706
Even if it would be a 10% boost, it would still be a better option than upgrading the cpu

>>58532778
6 cores @ 4Ghz > 4 cores @ 4.5Ghz

>>58532778
Then get a fucking LN2 cooler and do it yourself.

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>>58529859
>>58529653
>>58529192
>>58528676
>>58528630
>>58527678
>>58527114
When 8c/16t is announced, if it's 349.99,

It's going to be nonstop INTEL BTFO threads for several weeks

>>58532826
Not in gaming

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>>58532884
>gaming

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>>58532901
>not gaming

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>>58532907
>only gaming

>>58532901
>I only use my PC for processional things like drawing porn and encoding webms!

>>58532919
I also shitpost on /g/ and watch porn on it

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>>58532924
>drawing
>porn
Faggot

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>that feel when 2500k but locked motherboard

>>58532927
Think of how much porn you could watch at one time with 16 threads!

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>>58532939
>locked motherboard
>intel
SAD!

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>>58532947
can't argue with that

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>>58532962
You blew it

>>58532884
Even in gaming. CPU intensive games benefit from lots of cores these days. Muh single core performance only matters in 720p skyrim benchmarks.

>>58532961
>want to put old 2500k into ITX case
>locked ITX motherboards are 50 bucks
>unlocked ITX motherboards are 150 bucks

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>>58533090
>getting jew'd by intel
It's a sad day when you have to either settle, or get jew'd.

>Buy a new motherboard and ryzen for this shit
or
>Keep my 5Ghz 2500K
HMMM REALLY STIMULATING MY SENSES

Nvidiots and their fetishism with shit, smearing it all over themselves and throwing it at anythings that moves.

You retards can't even show the least bit of respect for a very well accomplished engineer and chose to descend to sub /b/ tier of batnz only to shout out your daily memetic slanders; I really hope these are all shills who at least get paid to run a literal smearing campaign far below the level of political ones.

>>58533090
Where can i even fins LGA 1155 motherboards right now? Need ITX motherboard but none is selling LGA 1155 socket anymore

>>58533501
ebay, but they are selling for moon prices because back then ITX wasn't that popular.

>>58533586
Yeah, also im in Swecuck so no ebay for me. Chepest on Aliexpress are like $50 refurb if you want to OC. Delivery 20-30 days, faster to wait for ryzen.

>>58532881
months

until they slash prices and release 6/8 core for 115x socket.

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>>58526636
already have a 6700k so nope

>>58526636
my 3570k's days in the sun are numbered.

If [email protected]+ GHz Ryzen sells for $500 or less, I'm jumping ship.

>>58528421
>VR capable APU
Depends on how intensive the visuals are on whatever you're running, but you'll have to wait five years at least for a minimally VR capable APU

>>58528489
You are definitely the tech illiterate judging by your moronic post. CPU usage does not increase at higher res. 90% chance you are GFX limited unless you're playing on low

>>58533996
>CPU usage doesn't increase with resolution

Retard detected.

So when is Zen out exactly?

I want to build new PC but want to wait to see how Zen is first.

>>58534689
six weeks-ish purportedly

My 3570k is 5 years old already and counting it's also overclocked to 4,8ghz so it even matches stock 7600k, kek. I'm just waiting when it's reasonable to finally upgrade my cpu.

>>58534745
Ok.

When can we expect an update from Pajeet? I was hoping to build in about 3 weeks.

I think I upgrade my i5 3570k when I get 50% increase on 200-250 dollars pricepoint how long I need to wait still?

>>58532108
Except the APUs are slower than i3s in the CPU portion of the package.

>>58534786
What applications? Could be the 6 core Ryzen

>>58534774
Probably release at some tech show, end of Feb or March IIRC.

>>58534663
It doesn't, fagtron. Your GPU usage will increase, not CPU usage. You can easily drive 4K Witcher 3 on an i3

>>58533274
>5GHz 2500K
Yeah nah, also the rest of your post is leaking stupidity

>>58534786
single thread? could be years to go.
if you're counting multi-thread, one of the not-top Ryzen SKUs has an honest shot soon.

>>58526636
That was my plan. Depends on how ryzen performs when released. If it's lackluster hopefully it will at least bring down the price of more recent Intel chips