Best Linux distro 2016-2017 pros and cons

Debian unstable
Pros
>Fast
>Rolling release
>Latest packages
>Don't have to reinstall every 6 months
>Stable
>No Ubuntu shit
>No bloat
Cons
>Some driver issues
>Slow install
>PPA's

>>58502471
> Debian unstable
> Stable

>>58502305
Arch
Pros:
>Quick
>Less bloat
>Build it to your image
>Lots of packages
>ABS and AUR
>Great docs
>Relatively stable
>Mostly vanilla Linux
Cons:
>autistic community
>dev headers bloat not split from main packages
>systemd
>free and non-free packages aren't strongly separated

>>58502305
Fedora
Pros:
>Has a good balance of up-to-date and stable packages.
>Backed by Red Hat
>Contributes to upstream
>Makes an effort to make Wayland a good replacement for X
>Currently works with nVidia to finally make Optimus usable under Linux
>Close to vanilla
>Good community
Cons:
>Only free packages in official repos, any non-free packages must be installed via third-party repos

I'm seriously considering moving to Fedora from Arch.

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>>58503254

>>58503475
Try it. The Fedora, RPMFusion and Copr repos are all well supported by Fedora themselves.

Fedora only has free software.
RPMFusion has things like proprietary Nvidia drivers, codecs and Steam.
Copr is like AUR, where people have their own custom versions.

Qubes OS
Pros
>flawless Debian, Fedora, Arch Templates
>VM based on templates are as fast as a native installation
>create disposable VMs in seconds
>Windows 7 tools
>preconfigured whonix + TOR
>multiple firewalls and networks you can route traffic of each VM
>every template or VM has it's own MAC address
>no software can access dom0
>easy backup and restore
>you can assign peripherals and storage to each VM

Cons
>no gpu passtrough (coming in version 4)
>can't record audio system wide
>you can only choose between XFCE, KDE or i3
>Windows 7 VM has no audio
>no Ubuntu template

I don't follow linux distros or news anymore. What's the hot new distro everyone talks about these days? last time I checked it was elementary OS.

openSUSE

Pros
> LSB conformant
> stable
> open build service
> Some devs are paid to work on it
> YaST
> Official support for all major and most others desktops

Cons
> Systemd only

>>58503510
I was actually fucking around in xorg.conf today and I came across this gem in the manpage:

VIDEOADAPTOR SECTION
Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ...

>>58503792
Sounds good, I will give it a try soon.

How stable is it?

Manjaro, because I'm too retarded to install arch

>>58502305
Arch

Pros
>fast
>less bloat
>fun to install

Cons:
>it's not gentoo

That's all I can think of for now.

>>58503904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMkST5IjSjY
Follow it step by step and if you still manage not to get it running, you're probably just a retard.

The only thing I can say is when he starts talking about installing all the NVIDIA packages, don't do it quite yet. Run with a default video driver first and make sure it boots. The NVIDIA libs was making my Xorg crash. I had to revert to a different driver.

>>58503898
Never crashed for me once, only had firefox inside some VMs hang a few times

Make sure you install on SSD and have compatible harware

>>58503167
Debian unstable is as stable as Ubuntu is you moron

>>58503475
I've been using Fedora for about a year straight and I love it. GNOME is seriously beautiful and the Fedora packagers do a great job of keeping you up to date without breaking anything. I mean we're already on Wayland for fucks sake

>>58503880

how is yast a pro, add zypper instead

FreeBSD

>>58503904

Just use Arch Anywhere or Antergos. Literally the same thing but half the hassle.

Gentoo
Pros
>absolute zero of bloat. Debian and Arch cannot compete
>the fastest (especially with BFS, BFQ)
>the most stable (if you don't misconfigure it)
>custom kernel
Cons
>compiling chromium takes 6 hours on my core i3
>oh god it's hot in this room
>hmm kinda smells as if something is burning
>oh shit my laptop is on fire

>>58504147
Gentoo is perfect if you're a neet

>>58504058
I know anon, I'm running Arch with Gnome on Wayland too. For me, the important difference between Arch and Fedora is good official support and a good community. I have a laptop with Optimus and i really like what they've been doing to make it work well.

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Arch, hands down

>>58504193
are you saying Arch has better official support or Fedora? I would think it would be the latter, since it's backed by Red Hat

>>58504175
Disagree. Lot's of admins use Gentoo. You can very easily set up a local portage server, there isn't an alternative to hardened gentoo, etc.

>>58504393
Sorry, what I meant to say is that Fedora has way better support than Arch.

mint
>apt
>based on ubuntu but even more stable
>works on any system
>not a status symbol
>no cryptic navigation

>>58504487
How is it more stable? Isn't it just Ubuntu with another DE slapped on? I haven't used Mint, but that's what I've heard.

is there a specific reason why people don't like ubuntu ?

i love Xubuntu, but even unity is pretty great.

>>58504069
Zypper's great but how is yast not a pro?

It's like giving your settings panel a steroid injection.

Does any specific distro have some sorts of "power management" advantage? I just picked up a thinkcenter for $50 to use as a web/mail server :>)

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>>58502471
>Fast
Compared to what?
>Rolling release
No, do you understand what rolling release means?
>Latest packages
Are you kidding me?

>>58503254
Please, explain to me why you have listed systemd as a con? What do you prefer?

>>58504507
The packages and updates get delivered in a better way. Other than that its the same.

>>58503881
It will forever be a mystery

>>58502305
Windows
Pros:
>just works
>better than linux
cons:
none

>>58504224 here
literally no cons to arch btw

Gentoo
>easiest to install steam
>best performance with games
>specialized graphics drivers competitive with windows
>best distro if you want to run MS Office/Adobe software

cons:
none that i can think of

>>58506171
>Gentoo
>>easiest to install steam
>>best performance with games
U fkn wot m8

>>58505734

The unstable branch IS all of those things

It's rolling, uses a newer kernel than even Arch rn, and is one of the better distros from a performance standpoint

>>58506149
>Windows
>cons:
>none
Kek. You gaymers are delusional.

>>58505748
You seem to be new here, systemd is always a con on /g/ because of muh UNIX philosophy

Windows

deepin

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Ubuntu
>Most supported distro
>Most popular and widely used linux distro
>Stable
>Apt
>Easy to install & maintain
>Launchpad
>1-click install of deb files
>Gorgeous and functional after ricing
>Non-autistic community that is actually helpful
>Is the future of Linux
>It just werks

>>58504193
Wayland is so gay. Why do people like it so much

>>58507238
Nice meme

>>58502305
Overall Xubuntu. It is everything good about Ubuntu without most of the bad. I really like Ubuntu, specifically Unity, but Compiz breaks fullscreen programs in WINE. I also dislike Unity's start menu and multimonitor support. Only issues I have with Xubuntu is that I prefer pacman over apt, aur over ppa, and that "mouse speed" in XFCE4 like in most distros for some fucking reason, doesn't fucking work ever, but at least there is a gui option to turn off mouse acceleration which is surprisingly far and few. Of all distros the only 3 I will recommend are;

Xubuntu > Ubuntu > Linux Mint

None are perfect alternatives to Windows but these will give you the least amount of frustration

>>58503254
>dev headers bloat not split from main packages
I thought it did? That's the whole point of base and base-devel

>>58503254
>calls arch userbase autistic
>then states he wants proprietary and open source software separated
ironic

>>58503841
solaris is the current meme i think. its not bad at all i just dislike that all packages have been renamed so its a pain in the ass to hunt down dependencies if you just so happen to want more up to date programs (as they are all out of date)

>>58504224
why would you want linux to look like windows 10? do you actually find that shit attractive or was it just to see if you could?

>>58503792
>or i3
>con
But i3 is what I use with both Mint (home) and Fedora (work).

>>58502305
Fedora
Pros
>up to date packages
>bleeding edge
>still extremely stable
>Fast
>Easy to use
>Easy to install
>Selinux out of the box
>Lvm and luks encryption
>red hat documentation
Cons
>small repo without rpmfusion
>no gui package manager (only problem for noobs)

>>58504224
Arch inside a vm or what ?

>>58505748
- Systemd is Matrix/cancer. If you have to ask, brainectomy detected.

- I prefer your sister, but your mother does better on her oral exams.

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>>58506149
cuckdows 10
pros:
>just works
>muh major software
>muh pirate
>muh feels like home

cons:
>everyone in /g/ shilling me
>muh spyware
>Heavy
>ugly
>not cool
>can't be a badass /g/ guy

win 10 was meme just use 8.1 or 7

>>58507886
>its bad
>because its bad
every time

>>58505748
The way I understand it is that it ruins modularity. Also it's pretty invasive system-wide.

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Ubuntu. Do a minimal installation to cut down on bloat, then install what you need/want.

>>58507938
>windows 10
>just works
they practically dropped support for all older software, at that point you might as well use linux

Antergos
>Arch without the hassle. Its good get over it
>pretty stable for the most part
>newest shit
>great documentation from Arch
>the AUR

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>>58502305
Gentoo (i'm not joking)
Pros
>built from source
>can be anything you want it to be
>optimized for your machine
>fast
>minimal
>not a joke like Arch
>portage
Cons
>it's not Linux From Sratch

>>58507238
>Apt
>deb files
>future of linux
fuck this noise

>>58507439
Because it's faster and better than X11, X is bloated garbage, it's slow and doesn't follow Unix philosophy like Wayland does, it also is far lighter and nicer on the hardware, games perform faster on wayland as well, it's fucking tiny too, takes less than 1 minute to compile Wayland, I run it on my system with superior OpenRC (the people who say it requires systemd havent used it and are incorrect, and the devs don't plan on adapting systemd ever) Wayland is quite literally a masterpiece

>>58504487
Wifi drivers suck

>>58507715
Agreed, I love Xubuntu. For me it's Xubuntu on good computers, and Lubuntu for older hardware.

Mint is garbage. Why would anyone use it?

>>58509100
it looks nice and is very userfriendly

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>>58502305
TempleOS

Pros
>Yes

Cons
>N/A

>>58508651
>>it's not Linux From Sratch
>con
Gentoo basically automates LFS and gives you a set of handy tools. LFS teaches you some but actually maintaining such a system is retarded waste of time. Gentoo has plenty of maintainers who do this for you

>>58508651
>Cons
I think it's one of pros, anon.

>>58504516
because unity eats too many resources and it's fugly

>>58509380
Do you even know what a random number is?

>>58507863
>>58507803

Windows in a VM

What about lubuntu or kubuntu?

>>58511110
>kubuntu
I am quite happy with it.

Just stay well away from KMail, it is the worst piece of software in the history of humanity. Not only does t shred your IMAP, it will seek out your backups and make sure all your email ever is thrashed beyond hope. This is not a Kubuntu issue but an issue with the week huffers at KDE.

>>58509380
dumb cia nigger

PCLinuxOS

Pros:
>no systemd
>bleeding edge
>rolling release
>has packages for Lumina
Cons
>default install a little bloated
>unusual APT + RPM combination

>>58505734
You're in the wrong thread wincuck

>>58502305
Xubuntu

Pros
>ubuntu (everything is built for ubuntu first)
>no unity
>xfce

Cons:
>none

inb4 parrots who think newer packages are always more secure, you faggots are a joke, keep thinking installing arch is an accomplishment

>>58507842
>no gui package manager
yumex-dnf

>>58503475
>>58504058
>>58504193
Fedora is the perfect distro.

>best distro
Don't know, but certainly not one that ships KDE. Shits broken beyond belief.
Fuck.
I think I'm getting gnomes.
Or some ricer minimal crap like i3.
Feel free to dub-suggest me a disro + de

>>58514071
Cinnamon is nice, distro is irrelevant

>>58510944
WTF

>>58508175
post wallpaper, also dude you got a dell

>>58502305
Windows.

>using anything except arch
why
even if you are tech illiterate you can still slap gnome on it and it will be easy to configure and use

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>>58514230

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Antergos, it's Arch with a different installer & a nice theme.

>>58515024
Antergos is French for ``can't install le Arch''

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>>58515644
>he thinks installing Arch is an achievement

>>58515754
Think of how low a person that can't even do it is.

>>58505880
They also use their own configuration menu.

>>58504516
Nothing wrong with Ubuntu, its Unity that is a piece of shit.

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first for debian stable

>>58515765
They're clearly smarter for not doing stupid tasks the hard way

>>58507783

> Solaris

You probably meant Solus, kind Anon.

>>58507822
The con is there's only 3 options you tard

>>58508175

How'd you get your unity launcher to look like that?

>>58516168

moar

>>58502305
Fedora 25
Pro: everything
Con: Chromium not in repos, only copr

Antergos

Pros:

>it's literally easy mode Arch
>can comment out the Antergos repos
>you can set your DE before you install it when doing a netinstall
>the Antergos forums are less elitist than the Arch forums and will be just as helpful if you're into that

Cons:

>AMD users may have issues (had a friend on AMD who had to go back to Mint)
>if you're concerned about bloat you may have to tweak the install some

I've been using Antergos as my daily driver for over a year now and I haven't had shit break on me yet. Then again I am no programmer nor am I running a server or some shit so YMMV.

>>58516502
it's xfce, not unity

>>58504516

I use Wine a lot and I require it to have both 64-bit and 32-bit support. Building multiarch Wine on Ubuntu is more difficult than it needs to be because of how much Ubuntu gets in the fucking way.

On my Antergos install I just git clone the Wine directory, pull the latest PKGBUILD script from the official Arch repos and make it point at the source I have on my disk, run a simple "makepkg --skipinteg --skipchecksums --skippgpcheck" command and after that's done I have a perfectly packaged multiarch Wine.

tl;dr Ubuntu gets in the way too much when you want to customize shit or update shit before a package maintainer does.

>>58508175
curious - how do i minimal install? server?

>>58516962
ubuntu.com>downloads>alternative downloads>mini.iso

server works, too, but includes a few extra programs

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>>58516574
Fedora 25 came after a change in some packaging rules. Now chromium is in the official repos.

IT's all the same shit with different packet managers and access to software. I just use Ubuntu because Steam.

Gnu/Linux for me is a vim workstation and nothing more, no one gives a shit about the distro.

>>58508651
I have a really old notebook with a Radeon GPU that the only decent driver available is only compatible with an ancient version of the linux kernel. I heard I could use gentoo to make that run in some sort of compatibility mode, is that true? Could anyone summarize what I need to do?

>>58509380
lol

Windows

because amd's gpu are not yet (fully) supported in Linux (what a shame)

openSUSE
Pros
>stable or rolling, your choise
>YAST
>zypper is love, zypper is life
>best KDE distro
>great Gnome distro
>made by adults for adults
>OBS
>one-click -install
>comfy
>geeko the lizard

Cons
>no GNU/Icecat at repos

>>58502305
Xubuntu for recent computers
Lubuntu for old computers

Other than the fact that Lubuntu is ugly as fuck, I've gotten tired of roaming beyond *buntu.

Gentoo

which system is best for displaying asiatic drawings of underage children?

>>58518656
Arch

>>58509100
Why is it garbage? It's a good justwerks distro.

I like Linux 16, itz da beeessstttt!!!!! ;p

Slackware

Pros:
>Stability, of course.
>All the settings are just text files.
>Very configurable (you don't even need to use X if you don't want to)
>Comfy
>"Bob" wants you to use it.

Cons:
>Doesn't "just work" ; some configuration is needed to make things how you want them.
>No dependency resolution.
>Slackbuilds are nice but take time.

>>58506374
Its not a rolling release

>>58520840
How does this compare to CRUX? They sound very alike.

>>58521245
I'd say that one difference is that CRUX has a focus on using new technologies while Slackware doesn't.

Ubuntu cause it just werks

Only con is that /g/ doesn't think I'm cool