7700k gets 10fps more than 6700k in any game. Ayymd said they

>>58497376
stupid /v/irgin

>>58497391
Not playing gayms, just proving a point. Ayymd doesn't stand a chance against based Intel.

It's clocked 10% higher.
It's around 8% faster.

whowudathought

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

DIE AMD CANCER FUCKING DIE

it has a higher base clock speed
clock for clock, there's no difference, and if you aren't overclocking a K processor you should probably kill yourself

>>58497425
Look at clock per clock benchmark the 7700k still wins. It can also overclock higher

>>58497439
Yes there is, not as much but still around 5 fps with the same clocks and kaby lake can overclock more

like clockwork

>amd lost before even releasing their poop
What a shocker

Should I wait for Rayzen or just buy the 7700k?

>>58497511
wait for ryzen

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if the 7700k is so great then why does it costs just 10 yuros more than my current 4790k?

>>58497511
>>58497559
Amd themselves said their CPOO will be weaker than Skylake, don't waste time

>>58497448
Most of what you said is wrong

>>58497602
Ayymd denial is hard

http://www.pcmag.com/news/350637/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-processor-overclocked-to-7ghz

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>people said the speed of deditated wam doesn't change anything

>>58497620
That's the part I wasn't sure of so I said most. The rest is wrong though

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>>58497440
Clock/Clock difference between the two is within 0-1% or within margin of error.

Are u dum?

>>58497739
You cherrypicked the smallest difference and still, 2.5 fps is a lot, especially under 60fps.

>>58497376
>comparing cpu's at different clock speeds
Ishiggy

>>58497759
>waah it's not fair to compare the 1080 to the 480 because it has lower clock

It can go higher idiot, that's what you will be using it at.

>>58497755
Its the same scene

>>58497786
b8 shop

>>58497755
>2.5 fps is a lot
It's not. 10FPS difference is easy to spot but 2.5FPS difference is audiophile-tier placebo.

>especially under 60fps
>implying a build with i7 ever goes under 60FPS

>>58497786
Fake

>>58497805
The 6700k might go under 60, especially in 4k

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>>58497786
Here's my i5-6400 @ 4.5 Ghz

>>58497834
Your 4 cores are almost as fast as one Kaby Lake core

>>58497816
And what difference are 2 and a half frame going to make?
The "slightly more fluid, I think" difference is modern mysticism and wankery.

>>58497897
????

>>58497906
Going from 57.5 fps to 60fps is a game changer
>>58497913
Pajeet lost his shit again

>>58497913
w-what

>>58497913
Ayymd drivers be like

>>58497816
>6700k being the bottleneck at 4K and not the GPU
Ayy lmao

>>58498024
6700k paired with titan xp maxed out settings (16x anti aliasing, frame scaling) drops below 60. 7700k paired with the same gpu and settings doesn't

>>58498024
Ur dum m8.

Not all games are GPU taxing. Many games are CPU taxing, like RTS/Civ series/etc

>>58498060
In crysis 3 4k

>>58497771
I said CPU not GPU you troglodyte

>>58498071
At same clockspeeds?

>>58497376
Only way to solve this issue is a blind test of both systems. See if one could actually tell the difference between 58 vs 60fps. Audiophile tier bullshit in this thread.

>>58498091
No, if you try to get the 6700k to 5ghz your house will catch fire

>>58498115
Op's picture isn't at oc'd clock speeds though, it's stock speeds.

At 4.5 ghz, theres no way a 6700k will bottleneck, especially not at higher resolutions

>>58498065
>CPU taxing
>on a 4c/8t CPU

that's pajeet developers, not a CPU bottleneck

7700k is a shit cpu

the same IPC of skylake but with even higher TDP

>>58498126
who the fuck would keep a k CPU on stock clocks anyway?

>>58498144
The benchmarks say otherwise

>>58498156
So show the differences of both oc'd, you'll see the difference is negligible

>>58498167
It's over 2.5 fps

>>58497376

you can clock a 6600k 10% higher too.

>>58498167
>implying I'm OP

>>58498137
>4c8t means infinite CPU resources
Might as well pack up those 6c12t and 8c16t CPU cause they're useless now.

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>>58498177
pls no bully

>>58498177
Show it

>>58498160
what benchmarks?

>>58498196
>>58497376

>>58497913

Took me a second to recognise the copypasta. When I did, I must admit I had myself a good little angry tirade. I typically don't find 'Internet copypastas' especially annoying or angering, in fact it took me years to stop appreciating the classic 'Navy SEAL' copypasta. Nonetheless, in today's bitter political climate, I find solace in more traditional forms of humour, a little bit of an injection of real comedy in this world full of 'irony' and 'dankness'. Ironically bad jokes are still bad jokes people - NEWSFLASH. This is a bang up unoriginal job, and I hope to see much, much less of you in the future.

>>58498192
nice projecting faggot

I'm simply stating that if you get shit performance *in games* with an i7, the problem isn't with the CPU. It's either you were too cheap of a faggot to get a decent GPU or the game was programmed in India.

>>58498215
Ur dum m8. The benchmark is @ stock settings. 7700K had 10% OC, this is where the difference is shown.

On the same clock per clock benchmark, there is 0% difference.

See >>58497739

>>58498253
Same clock and the 7700k still gets 2.5 fps more

>>58498249
And you're wrong, CPU bottle necks were always a thing with large scale unit counts and action counts. RTS genre is the most notorious bunch where CPU bogs down when you have too many unit. Not even quad 1080 can fix that.

>>58498268
1% difference, margin of error.

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>>58498268
Wow a whole 2.5 fps totally mind blowing

>>58497376
Nice try, rajeesh. This is AMD board.

>>58498286
57.5 vs 60 fps is game changing

>>58497414
If you don't play games why do you shill intel/amd ? Do a benchmark in compiler performance not on games you will see that Intel kinda controls the compiler , games strongly depend on GPU to get the frame-rate.

>>58498305
Stop shitposting.

>>58498268
Show proof

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>>58498304
Nice try Rajeet, amd is a literal poo in loo corporation

The IPC gain of about 4% between Haswell and Skylake (which includes Kaby Lake) is indistinguishable. Any large FPS gains you see is due to the faster DDR4 RAM.

>>58498286
>Not even quad 1080 can fix that.
Yes, I'm aware. That's why I mentioned the second alternative: pajeet programmers that can't into multithreading.

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>>58498215
>t.gametoddler

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>>58498268
it's the other way around

>>58498329
man i legit wish i shat out bitcoins

>>58498327
>>58497739

>>58498329
Intel Aviv is leaking again

>>58498335
The issue isn't pajeet programmers, but rather multithreading is not efficient as it is currently implemented.

This is why you see huge diminishing returns in most games. When people say "i5 is just as good as i7" they are talking about how 4 cores hit the plateau for most games.

Its actually the opposite case for the CPU intensive games where i5 and i7 shows the difference given huge number of computation required for large scale RTS.

TL;DR Stop posting dumb shit.

>>58498379
4 core cpus are cancer, I agree

>>58498347
btfo

>>58497834
>@ 1.61 GHz

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>>58498347
it's the other way around

>>58497376
Can I use the 7700k with Windows 10?

>>58498484
Yes

>>58498379
>multithreading is not efficient as it is currently implemented

Elaborate, please.

Fuck off to >>>/v/ with this shitty propaganda.

>>58498488
Can I use Windows 7?

>>58498494
>>58497414

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>>58498466
it's the other way around

>>58498505
>Captura de
>de
>>spic opinion
Dropped

>>58498496
Yes.

>>58498517
7700k has worse performance than 6700k but heats even more

what a fail cpu lmao

>>58498563
BUILD WALL

>>58497376
I can't wait to get an 8 core box this summer. I really couldn't care less about which CPU gets 2.5fps better. Being to run multiple OSs and systems at the same time is going to be awesome. Fuck Intel and their 4 core mentality.

>>58498577
damage control :^)

>>58498562
I cant find my USB drivers, along with the iGpu. Can you link me to where these vital drivers are?

>>58498589
>look ma, i can run 8 instances of ubuntu
>thats nice anon

>>58498589
>what is 6900k

>>58498618
>1100 burger tokens
I'll pass.

>>58498618
$1k
No thanks
I could buy another box with a 6700k and still have money left over.
$350+350=$800 for 8 cores
$1000 for 8 cores.
Hmmm

>>58498650
>350+350=800
Truly American education is the greatest in the world.

>>58498611
Intel's got the USB3/3.1 drivers and so does the motherboard manufacturer on their website, and the iGPU drivers for KabyLake are the same as the ones for W10.

>>58498664
>What is tax
Its an automatic calculation Burgers take

>>58498671
Yeah that's the thing I really can't find them. Especially the xHCI driver. Can you link them?

>>58498650
>I can buy 2 cars that do 100 mph instead of one that does 200

>>58498762
>Meme car analogy

>>58498786
>meme meme analogy

>>58498789
>meme meme meme

>>58498650
How are you gonna use them both simultaneously?

>>58497440
>responds to clock-per-clock performance analysis which demonstrates <1:1 scaling between generations
>"HURR, LOOK AT CLOCK PER CLOCK BENCHMARKS"

Holy fucking shit, shut up.

>>58498870
Look at the benchmarks, at the same clock the 7700k still pushes 2.5 more fps

>>58498837
Ever heard of a server?

>>58498891
You are a NEET loser, you will build no other server than a NAS from which you can access data, which runs perfectly even with a amd faildozer

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>>58498884
Truly amazing you keep a thread going this long over 2.5

>>58498910
What I'm saying is that THERE IS a difference

>>58498909
All this projection

>>58498926
Not enough for you to notice in some double blind scenario. Its just little man dick waving at this point.

>>58498956
57.5 vs 60 fps is game changing

>>58498762
more like you can rent 2 smaller trucks to get your load from A to B instead of a more expensive larger one

>>58499021
And take twice the time

>>58498671
So have you found out there are no drivers to support Windows 7 yet?

>>58499046
I could encode and run my seedbox/plex/kodi pfsense running while I gayme on my other box. Or I could just wait for Zen.

Name 1 reason why I shouldn't buy the i5-6600K
instead of the Kabylake version.

>can undervolt it myself
>can overclock it myself

>>58499113
Its not the I7 6700k

>>58499113
Kaby has better performance at the same clocks and costs the same

>>58499133
Motherboards are more expensive

>>58499147
WHAT ARE YOU POOOOOOOOOOOR?

>>58498696
>damage control activated

>>58499158
Anyone considering any type of 4 core in le current year is poor

>>58499113
Same price, better performance, higher overclocks, lower power consumption lower temperatures

Man, /g/ is full of dumb people.

>>58499133
Total bullshit

Several reviews tells otherwise.

>>58499211

No argument

>better performance

Not with the same clocks

>higher overclocks

Still need to get lucky with a good chip

>lower power consumption lower temperatures

Are you retarded?

As I said before, I can lower the voltage myself.

>>58499251
Look here
>>58497739
With the same clock Kaby got 2.5 more fps

>>58499294

With in the margin of error on a benchmark.

>>58499316
What is the margin of error? At that moment, that CPU had an output of 2.5 more fps. By your logic the 6700k has 2.5 fps because of the margin of error.

>>58497376
>7700k gets 10fps more than 6700k in any game
>admitting to this while trying to shill for Intel

lmao desu

>>58499294
>max fps
>min. fps still the same

>1,7% more fps with that number decreasing when done several runs surely

Wew lad

I actually have a strong argument against the Kabylakes.

>doesn't run properly with Win7
>forced to go with Win10

>>58497633
Wait, what? 4.8 is only in one of those lines, so the better benchmark was actually achieved on a lower clock speed?

>>58499371
Max. clocks are not everything.

Most probably it only shows that 4.8Ghz is already too much for that CPU.

>>58499371
Yes because ram speed is actually important

>>58499408
You can and do different results with motherboards. Unless you buy the exact same setup as the test its a pretty pointless exercise to compare results down to 1%, like we are doing

>>58499450
See
>>58497633
It's a huge difference

>>58499506
f-four u

>>58497425
Wow clocking a processor higher with stability makes it faster

>>58499345
Ur dum. Margin of error is within 1-2%

2,5 fps means nothing when the total fps is > 100.

>>58499685
It means a lot when your 6700k only gets 57.5

>>58499795
It also means a lot when 6700K gets 2.5 fps while 7700K get 5 fps.

>>58499795
>>58499811
57.5 vs. 60? No, unless you're a complete PLEB who uses VSync.

2.5 vs 5? No because neither is playable so you gain nothing.

>>58499847
2.5 vs 5 fps is 100% difference.

>>58499847
What about when you render a 12k 360 video

>>58499870
Yeah, then it would be worth mentioning, but no such example exists any way. I assumed we were talking about a game and there it would be irrelevant.

>>58499900
57.5 vs 60 is a huge difference, you can see it clearly.

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>>58499924
Not really. Again, you might be using VSync. If not, that's probably placebo. 50 vs. 60 is noticable. 60 vs. 75 is noticable and so forth. It's about relative difference, not absolute. Personally, to me most games feel smooth at around 90 fps. Beyond that is of course still smoother but I couldn't accurately guess what I'm actually dealing with without a counter on display. I could just tell you that it has to be around 100 or higher, or I could tell you the framerate just increased or decreased noticably, but not where it is in absolute number. Framerate is extremely important but let's not go full placebo like audiofags.

>>58500040
It's not placebo. Under 60, you can tell any frame

>>58498589
Get cheap xeons.
The whole 26XX lineup is less than 100 dollars online right now.
Powerful as hell and nice bang for your buck.

>>58500070
Magical thinking.

>>58500186
Old xeons are like amd. A lot of weak cores. All your 20 cores barely match 1 Kaby Lake core

What is the last "DRM free" family of intel cpus?

>>58499870
>using a shitty 8 thread i7 to encode 4k+ files

>>58497439
>clock for clock

yeah and next you'll be telling me r480 is the same as gtx 1070 and 1080

8gb for 8gb right ??

>>58501252
Gr8 b8 m8!

>>58500243
>All your 20 cores barely match 1 Kaby Lake core
>he actually believes this
Have fun encoding an hour long 4K HEVC video file for 10 hours with your shitty dual core i3-7350K

>>58501915
I'm not a gaytuber and in pretty much any other scenario the 7700k will DESTROY your cheap xeon.

>>58501935
>in pretty much any other scenario the 7700k will DESTROY your cheap xeon.
I still have 32 logical threads over your 8. No matter how high you can overclock your Skylake Refresh, 32 threads will always beat out your 8 in multi-threaded programs that can utilize that many threads.
Plus, have fun running 50+ virtual machines with your quad core. Let me know what your CPU wait times are like.

>>58501970
That's what I just said you autistic manlet, no program other than video encoders rely on many cores. Good luck doing anything other than video encoding with your one slow core

>>58498696
nice meme :^)

>>58497593
source?

>>58501997
I wouldn't call an eight-core 3.2GHz Broadwell-E (3.6GHz Turbo on two of those cores) core slow by any means, let alone two of them.

>>58498268
oh snap buying a new z270 and kaby lake now.

this whole thread is trash, hidden

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>>58498974
>57.5 vs 60 fps is game changing
you really, really, really, REALLY, really, really need to get laid

>>58502168
>he fell for the retard

>>58501935
Name one scenario that is not thread hungry that is not gayming

>>58502248
are you intellectually challanged?

>>58501252
How can you compare "different brands and architectures comparison" with "same brand and almost same product comparison"?

>>58502293
I just realized how dumb it sounds kek. Let me rephrase it:

Name one high performance scenario or use case that doesn't relies on lots of threads that is not gaming...

>all those skywell vs kabywell babies...
>mean while Ryzan gonna pwn ass

Ryzan gonna eat youre shit. Literally.

>>58502328
compiling?

>>58502330
>ryzen gonna eat youre shit
Is that because it's going to suck ass compared to haswell?

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>>58502330

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>>58499811
>when 6700K gets 2.5 fps while 7700K get 5 fps.
Too bad it would never work like that fagboy

>>58499924
you fags are so fucking stupid

Show me a single instance where there is a 2.5 fps difference from 57.5 to 60

>all those poorfag babies that spend their parents' cash on skyake only to find out that are idiots cuz they didn't wait for the superior kabylake

well well... who would've thunk it....

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Is the 7600k worth the 30 more bucks over the 6600k?

>>58499847
38 vs 41 though, you'll definitely feel the difference then.

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>skylake is just as fast as kabylake, even faster in some cases!!!

yes yes... so you're saying skylake can run netflicks at 4k? oh, wait...

>>58503171
>proprietary DRM means better performance

AT LAST I TRULY SEE !!!

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Ah, yes.

>>58503159
No, both feel like shit. Equally like shit. If the game ran stable at precisely 41 for 10 minutes (never gonna happen, you'd have to lock it) and then it dropped to a stable 38, sure, in that ridiculous scenario I'd feel the drop. But real framerates fluctuate constantly and in that context 38 and 41 is the same damn feeling (shit).

>>58497439
>if you aren't overclocking a K processor you should probably kill yourself

I'll take less noise over 4 more frames per second

>>58497376
Not sure if you are retarded or trolling (probably the latter, so here's your you), but first of all, the 7700k does not get 10FPS more in any game. You're using Crysis3 as a retarded example, where the 7700k gets less than 10% more frames per second. Actually it gets about 7% more, which is shit.

You are incredibly stupid