3.5 mm audio jack

>>58491884
Why would I be? Technologies come and go. There's nothing that make the 3.5mm jack inherently better than anything else, for now it'll be a minor inconvenience but soon there'll be a new standard so who gives a shit.

>>58491884
all my headphones and IEMs are 3.5mm. I can't even afford new shit :(

>>58491884
>None of the new phones have it.

...you do know that Apple aren't the only ones who makes phones, right

>>58491936
Samsung abandoned it, Xiaomi abandoned it, ZTE as well... it's dead anon, give it up.

>>58491953
Explains why my Oneplus 3 has it

>>58491936
Samsung and HTC confirmed their new phones will not have a headphone jack.

If a phone has no headphone jack how do you plug your headphones into it?

I'm butthurt that companies keep following blindly every fucking dumb shit Apple does. Now we'll have to get used to USB-C everywhere too.

>>58491884
headphone jack or no, i think somehow life will go on, op

I'm fine with my nexus 6p for now.

When its time for a new one, I'll see what alternatives are there.
-No big headphones, I want in ears
-No Wireless piece of plastic that gets lost in 1 week like apple fag shit

>>58491936
Try /csg/

>>58491964
uh-oh, one chinksit maker still has a phone with it. that means that dozens of others who abandoned it are not following the trend.

you don't even know how to argue, kid.

>>58492055
Neither do you since the argument was that none of the new phones have it, not that phone manufacturers are following trends

>>58492081
shit phones will have it for a while. flagships won't.

>>58492099
Explain to me how the Oneplus 3 isn't a flagship

>>58491884
>Are you butthurt that it's dead?
Absolutely.

>>58491884
Implying the headphone company lobby wouldn't revolt if that were to happen

The next phone I buy will have a headphone jack and I will keep it for another 4-5 years so I don't care

>>58492144
dumbass
they will just sell wireless
they won't revolt for shit since they can sell wireless shit for even more $$$ than stuff with cable

>>58492005
You can just buy bluetooth headsets (i.e. not earbuds) to listen to your lossy-encoded mp3 and aac youtube rips.

>>58491884
The question is, what's the viable solution to the 3.5 mm in the market excluding the wireless/Bluetooth (which isn't viable) ones?

>>58491884
>Are you butthurt that it's dead?
kinda because wireless can get cut out with industual machines and the like

athough wireless was always going to head to mainstream it was only a matter of time that the 3.5mm jack would go out of fashion.

>>58492265
2.5mm. Allows for thinner phones and full compatibility with all existing peripherals.

Fuck these companies. I love my current headphones, and I'll be damned if I let them tell me I'm not allowed to use them anymore for no better reason than "because we say so."

>>58491993

Yeah, because it prevents a bunch of autistic retards from keeping us stuck with legacy shit forever. Fuck, if Apple didn't kill the floppy disk with the iMac, we'd probably still be using the fucking things.

Get fucked, you worthless nigger.

>>58492265
normies make it viable
they will jump the wireless bandwagon so hard, believe it

we should just restart this cancerous planet

>>58492297
Nice false equivalency.
Floppy disks are objectively inferior to CDs and flash drives. Wired headphones will stomp the shit out of wireless headphones any time of day.

My headphones have a removable/replaceable cord so I dont really give a shit. I doubt it will happen anytime soon, but if/when it does I'll be able to just get a new cable with the current standard. Or run it through an amp/DAC or some shit

Wait, this is good.

Music players are making a comeback, for those of us who care about quality.

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>>58491884
Even the dumb phones made by tracfone and net 10 don't seem to have them anymore.

I believe that soon it will be gone from every new electronic like how USB C is also evolving and taking over standard microUSB

There's like 5 smartphones out of 500 released in the last year that have no headphone jack, fuck off.

>>58492292
It's just the same standard.

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>>58492465
And it just works.

>>58491884
>not using 4pin xlr

the man wants to do away with analog signals, it will die in our lifetime

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>>58491884
the laptop makers are buying up the surplus

>>58491981

HEADSHOT!!

KILLING SPREE!!!

UNSTOPPABLE!!!!!

>>58491884
My desktop will always use this jack retard.

>>58492542
then why are they putting just one jack instead of 2 on laptops now

>>58492297
No audiophile uses wireless headphones retard. No serious audiophile that has converters and shit you stupid idiot.

You retards do realize that the much hated iphone7 comes with an adapter for using 3.5mm headphones right?
It's just that the port isn't built-in to the phone itself.

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>>58491884
I fucking HATE TRRS plugs! As soon as you touch them or, god forbid, rotate them, there's a LOT OF HIGH FREQ NOISE! Why I don't know. But it fucking sucks shit.

Give me ONE REASON why these are good plugs. Just ONE TECHNICAL REASON! The fact they're popular because they've been on the market for so long is not a reason I will accept.

>Is it dead?
It's the most popular audio connector available, you dumbfuck. Every non-retarded audio-capable-device has one.

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>>58492576
First they removed the hardware loopback circuit that's been in sound cards since the Sound Blaster. Then, they removed the audio-in jack so that you can't connect the audio-out jack to it with a cable.

>>58492598
>>58492312

Eat shit you stupid faggots, literally everyone around you does not give two shits about the "muh flac quality' you retards drool over when it comes to wired headphones.

Believe it or not you worthless fucks, the significant majority of people don't spend their time obsessing whether or not they can hear their favorite singers lips smacking through the pop filter.

>>58492655
What about battery life? A wired headphone can be used forever, wireless headphones have to be charged and will eventually lose the ability to hold charge just like modern cell phones without removable batteries. When I invest in technology I want that technology to last, not be disposable chink shit.

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>>58492621
now need one of these for your laptop

>>58492655
Wow so much anger over nothing

>>58491884
I never really use headphones with my phone and everything else still has it, so I can't say I'm particularly worried.

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>>58491884
Brand new Jewgle Pixel has one. I'll be buying that ugly ass phone just because the adverts bashed crApplel for removing a widely used port. The 3.5mm headphone jack has been around for like 100 years because it's a good design. I fucking hate charging headphones and bluetooth is garbage.

>>58492617
You probably just have shit connectors. I don't see why you'd fuck with it while in use either, I've never had that problem.

>>58492747
>You probably just have shit connectors
That's not an argument. Even a SHITTY HDMI cable made from fucking COAT HANGERS works just as well as Monstershit cables.

Problem is the fucking connector. It can't deal with noise and round connectors are horrible.That's why no modern plug uses round connectors.

I simply refuse to buy any phone without a headphone jack.

Simple as that. Vote with your wallet

>>58492778
>Even a SHITTY HDMI cable made from fucking COAT HANGERS works just as well as Monstershit cables.
Not really. Not that you need Monster or whatever the fuck, but I went through multiple cheap, no-name HDMI cables until I found one that could handle 4K 60Hz without cutting out randomly.

>It can't deal with noise and round connectors are horrible
You have low quality shit, that's why you get noise, or maybe your connectors are dirty as fuck. I don't get any noise if I rotate my plugs.

I don't have a smartphone and I don't use my laptop or tablet for music so I don't care.
Actual computers will have them for the foreseeable future.

>>58492875
>until I found one that could handle 4K 60Hz without cutting out randomly
Was that the same day you found out you had an extra chromosome or was that later? Quit spreading FUD

>>58492902
Are you attempting to troll me or are you actually this retarded?

>>58492598
>serious audiophile

Maybe on consumer garbage but if you think everything that uses 3.5 is abandoning it then you are retarded

>>58491884

no because some third party chink will make a micro usb C adaptor for it so you can plug power + 3.5mm jack

>>58492655
I was talking about the fact that wired headphones are infinitely better in bandwidth. You don't burn through your battery either because you aren't sending tons of radio signals back and forth to play your music.

I'm >>58492598 btw

>>58491953
>Samsung abandoned it, Xiaomi abandoned it, ZTE as well
Fuck did they? This is kikery of the worst kind desu senpai.

>>58491936
>None of the new phones have it.
The Pixel has it. They pointed it out rather hamfistedly in their commercials.

>>58493037
>adapter sticking out of your phone

>>58492297
>Yeah, because it prevents a bunch of autistic retards from keeping us stuck with legacy shit forever.
why so angry? i have two great pairs of headphones and don't want to buy another thing i have to charge just because some autist designer can make slim phones even slimmer, to the point, no grown man can hold them properly anymore.

>>58492119
Because no one who isn't a fat nerd knows about it

>>58493177
>buy new phones, silly goy
such is life.

>>58492297
>>58492655
>I'M D-DEFINITELY NOT FUCKING ANGRY YOU FUCKING NIGGER FAGGOTS LOL!!!
maybe this board isn't for you, sonny

>>58492727
pretty much this. just look at the nexus 6p: it's almost as slim as usb-c allows it to be and still has a headphone jack, so, where's the problem?

>>58491993
Wait, what the fuck is wrong with USB-C?

It's literally better in every way
>reversible
>way higher power capacity
>way higher bandwidth

There's... there's literally no reason to support the old formats other than "they're already in place and I'd have to pay to replace them". That's literally it, and that's a completely shit reason to not advance technology.

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>mfw still using an S5
>mfw literally 0 reason to upgrade that I care about
>mfw it JustWerks
>mfw I use less than a dozen apps on my phone anyway
>mfw it has a 128Gb mSD Card, USB 3.0 and compatability with normal MicroUSB that normal people actually have that I can share (as opposed to USB Type-C which literally none of my hardware has), water proofing, and a replaceable battery.
>mfw my 3.5mm jack is yet another thing on my long list of phone features that are gone

>>58491953
Where did Xiaomi abandon it? Mi 6 and Redmi Note 4X are going to have headphone jacks.

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>>58492727
Hey I fixed that for you.

>apple declares a 100% usable, simple, relevant technology dead just so they can sell their proprietary, expensive shit
>idiot nutechnology shitcunts go along with it
Fucking idiots.

>>58493436
They will brick it with ((updates)) eventually.

What purpose did replacing this do anyways?

Nokia 8 will have a headphone jack 3.5 mm and also have a Snapdragon 835 with 8 gb ram.
Thank you based NOKIA.
Apple cucks on suicide watch.

>>58491971
Neither of which are relevant. One is a failure and one is trying to recover from becoming a mobile bomb company. Meanwhile Pixel, which is the closest thing to a reference Android flagship, has one.

I'd be less butthurt if we had two USB-C ports instead of one port replacing both.

>BUT MUH THIN!

>>58492655
For someone asking if others are butthurt you sure are fucking mad

>>58491953
ZTE? Really, when?

>>58492524
USB-C can carry analog signals. That's why they're using it to replace the headphone jack.

Also, USB-C was never a problem, only idiot designers including as few ports as possible to drive up profit margins and make the device look more futuristic (because relying on remote servers for everything totally isn't what we desperately tried to escape last century)

>>58494296
>top and bottom USB-C ports
I'm okay with this

>>58494296
>I'd be less butthurt if we had two USB-C ports instead of one port replacing both.
2 ports will never happen. be happy you still have one. in the near future, there will be no ports.

>>58493390
This, this is the best way to explain it.
Right now, do people wish we still used vhs tapes and never upgraded to dvd's? People were pissed at the time that they had to shell out more money but it was for the better. USB C is a huge upgrade in every way and can replace the old. It just requires some upgrading

>Is it dead?
Samsung GS7 has a 3.5 mm jack
so does the latest ipad & ipod
macbook pro 2017 also shipped with 3.5 mm jack
>seams legit

>>58494336
Also see

>>58494306


It's misplaced bitching. You get USB-C, you get ONE FUCKING PORT, and then in your confusion you hate both.

>>58493189
because the phone is already made and they arent going to redesign it
and because they are trying to appeal to the retards who cant adapt to changes

>>58492655
>having to charge headphones.

How about no?

>>58491971
Samsung Galaxy A5 2017, 3.5mm jack, yes

>>58494274
Nokia name got sold. Some rand company is just using it

>>58491884
I have an adapter that turns wired headphones into bluetooth headphones. I'll be ok.

>>58494402
Yeah, headphone companies are retards. Fuck them and all their 3.5mm based quality products. What a bunch of complete luddites.

i'll sit back and watch early adopters get buttfucked as usual. after a decade of beats by dr. the dre agenda maybe koss will release something good that uses USB-C for like $20.

>>58493390
>replacing simple stuff with the clusterfuck that's USB is a good thing

No

Nobody ever complained about jacks until Applel replaced theirs, now it's a meme to hate on what's perfect for the job with literally 0 failure rate

>>58494620
>perfect for the job

like having audio in and audio out ports, it lets you pirate anything and creates a place where DRM can not exist

notice that everyone who pushes shit like this is a major IP holder or partenered with IP holders

life + 50 years of pure undeserved profit, at any cost

>>58492655
>being forced to buy wireless headphones

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>>58494394
>It's misplaced bitching. You get USB-C, you get ONE FUCKING PORT, and then in your confusion you hate both.

apple are masters of simplicity

>>58494560
>I have an adapter that turns wired headphones into bluetooth headphones. I'll be ok.
wat???

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>>58494696
Dude needs to get new hardware that doesn't use wires.

>>58494274
It's not NOKIA.
Nokia just sold it's name, first to Microsoft, now to some other company. It is not real Nokia.

>>58491884
why major companies still use 3,5mm jack and not 2,5mm jack? It's far better, and doesn't take that much space

well if i cant use the same headphones i use to plug into my mixer/drumset/amp on my smartphone i wouldn't like it, but my dislike of that would never sway the decision of the phone manufacturers from deciding the people buying these phones don't own mixers/other crap, and therefore don't need those options.

if 3.5mm dies as a mainstream pleb sort of concept, i wouldn't be surprised. i kind of expected it. i won't be happy about it, but i won't be surprised once it happens. the millenial retards i have to manage in my restaurant today seriously don't realize it's not okay to not wash your hands after being in the bathroom. they don't know what the metric system is used for outside of drugs either.

everything we desire to be precious and acceptable is dying due to stupidity and niggers and there is nothing we can do about it.

>>58494768
Jordan, please leave. We already told you

>>58491884
>Is it dead?
No
>Are you butthurt that it's dead?
If it's not dead, how can it make me butthurt?

What a stupid person

>>58494844
but it is dead. it has no future. all future devices will be usb-c/lightning.

>>58493866
>cm14 nightlies

Keep dreaming boi

>>58494537
>>58494752
>It's not Nokia
But it is. Company making them is called HMD Global and guess where they came from?
Oh yes, ex Nokia employees. Nokia is giving the brand and patents for HMD Global for the phones.

>>58495002
Correct

>>58492621
because the music, video, and video gaming lobbies and businesses WANT TOTAL OUTPUT CONTROL. HDMI and now USC-C Can be prevented from allowing "Pirating" via software/hardware settings. If they remove modern equivalences of VCR functionality for the public, they can milk, charge, and stream money(largely theoretical/nonexistant) from their target audience, the globe. Digital always will be easier to regulate than analogue. Partly why almost every country is fazing out analogue TV and Radio to Digital.

>>58491953
you're so full of shit

isnt it just mini trs? unless the audio industry drops it i dont see it leaving.

there's absolutely no reason to drop 3.5 and the industry (or just Apple) is going backwards.

2000-2008 were the dark times when every manufacturer made its own audio jack. that's what you are rooting for.

remember, you can't plug those headphones you bought for your new shiny iphone into the new macbook. makes perfect sense.

>>58497528
>2000-2008 were the dark times when every manufacturer made its own audio jack
They were particularly dark times because sometimes the plugs would not fit every phone from a single manufacturer. At least this time if the industry agrees to one standard (as needless as it may be) then in the end it won't be such a hassle.

I doubt USB of any kind is a long-lived concept. Mini USB used to be the next big thing and nothing but pre-2010 devices use that connector anymore. How long will USB-C for headphones be a thing? What happens when the next evolution of USB comes along? More adapters? Industry stuck with an obsolete plug for the next 100 years? Absolutely ridiculous.

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>>58491884
>How long before laptops lose them as well?

>>58497623
it's a gimmick and it won't catch on.

headphones are not digital and there is no reason for them to be digital. it's just a way to sell more expensive stuff. same headphones but now with a DAC - 5 times more expensive. probably would have the cheapest dac possible. in phones it's included at least.

RIP headphones jack
Hello wireless and USB-C

shit

>>58492265
I use a usb battery with a chromecast audio

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>>58497688
>it's a gimmick and it won't catch on.
kek'd. you have no idea how the world works.

Then i'll buy new phones with it like I buy new laptops with VGA
>feeding the legacy

How long until wireless charging actually becomes standard, and phones accordingly have ZERO ports?

>>58491884
LONG LIVE THE 6.35mm JACK

Finally the pleb consumer 3.5mm is gone.

>>58500579
2018 at the latest. iphone 9 will have no ports.

>>58500449
I guess you must be using firewire400, 800, thunderbolt and plenty other great apple inventions every day

>>58491953
Wrong.
Samsung case leak has a headphone jack:
http://wccftech.com/galaxy-s8-case-leak-3-different-ports/
CTRL+F "3.5mm" on these specs too:
http://fascinatedworld.com/xiaomi-mi7-full-phone-specifications-features-price/
http://www.gsmarc.com/zte/blade-v8-pro/

>>58491884
Nice bait. I will not buy a phone without it. Apple wasn't a choice anyway, but now they can fuck right off and die in a fire.

>>58491884
It's not dead, and I won't be buying a single device that doesn't have one when it ought to(anything that plays audio; laptops, phones etc)

>>58491884
Don't forget to charge your headphones while you charge your phone

>>58491953
Ah Samsung. The Apple of Android. And Xiaomi and ZTE are far from common phones in the west, and even further from the only Android vendors. Still leaves LG, Sony, Huawei and a bunch of others.

>>58501835
Its not even true, he's just shitposting see >>58501735

>>58492465
Why fix what isn't broken?

>>58500638
wireless microwave charging is the future

>>58501874
>Yes goy, fry your testicles and prevent furthering your race

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>>58492778
>That's why no modern plug uses round connectors.
Uhh, anon...

>>58501626
Videocameras use Firewire.

>>58501855
That's the point at all, it's not broken to fix.

>>58502050
you're proving my point. all of those ports are extremely niche things that apple introduced and then dropped because they did not catch on widely.

it's not just an apple thing, others do it as well.

>>58501930
that's antiquated garbage. and it isn't new.

>>58501930
>>MODERN
None of those are modern.

>>58502971
google "laptop charger port" images

>>58503007
>>MODERN
Do i need to spell it out for you?
Just look at CES, any modern laptop has USB-C charging.
Stay in the 90's cunt.

>>58503059
lol welcome to reality, most shit shown at CES is
1 not even going to be made, just concepts
2 not on the market yet
3 not representative of the whole market

so you can meme usb-c charging all you want but there's about 5 laptop models that have it currently. all of them are ultrabooks probably.

also modern does not mean future, get a dictionary.

>>58503113
>Being this wrong and retarded
Why are you on /g/? It's time for retirement, gramps.

>>58503200
you are too young to be here child

Does anyone actually listen to music over their telephone?
Why would you want to drain the battery to your more important device (phone) with music when you can just buy a separate MP3 player and throw in an SD card?
>actually letting tech companies make decisions FOR you

One thing I haven't seen anyone post about is how shit the latency is on Bluetooth headphones. It is way too slow to do anything like video editing, audio editing or playing with all those cool music/dj apps. That might not affect the general public as much but Bluetooth hacking is still an issue and wireless headphones is like wearing your wallet outside your pants.

>>58492616
It also sounds like shit.

>>58501930
What's this, your watercooling kit?

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>>58491884
>Is it dead?

>Are you butthurt that it's dead?


Why are 4chan users so dumb?

>>58491884
Samsung S8 will have one, so.. nope not yet dead but not far from dying.

>>58503761
>Why are 4chan users so dumb?
guess what, retard, you're a 4chan user and you don't even know how dumb you are. let that sink in for a second.

Apple takes "courageous" step of removing 3.5mm jack from their headphones
>leaves 3.5mm jack on Macbook Pro
>leaves 3.5mm jack on big iPads

Ffs

>>58491971
>Samsung and HTC confirmed their new phones will not have a headphone jack.

According to a leak of a case for the Galaxy S8, it will have the headphone jack.

>>58493390
the 3.5mm headphone jack is analog that is objectively superior to any digital shit you can come up with

>>58492301
i dont want wireless i have enough shit to charge.
not to mention if everyone starts using it can you imagine the interference.
and the compression audiophiles are going to commit suicide in mass numbers
and im going to lose wireless earbuds and then its not gonna be just spending 2 dollars on a new pair while im out ive got to fork out for some bluetooth shit

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>>58503800
nough

>>58501626
thunderbolt was invented by intel and it is absolutely better than other ports

No headphone jack, no purchase.

>new phones
Why buy that?
The old ones work just fine and the difference in feature set is minute

>>58504190
>t. poorfag from a 3rd world shithole where people still shit on "streets"

>>58491884
>None of the new phones have it.
lol

>>58504527
>t. butthurt

>>58504493
>it's a status symbol
Is that what you're saying? Because maybe you should buy a decent watch, suit and car instead if you're aiming for that.

If you were just making a poor attempt at insulting me then the question still stands.

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>>58491884
>Reply
>technology board
>all these fucking computer nerds seem to think that since their 3.5mm jac is not on their hot new cell phones, that it must be dead
>not aware that 3.5 jacks exist heavily outside the realms of their cell phoens audio jack.

i really dislike this board, and it is because it is forced to be nothing mroe than computer hardware, and desktop conversations

>tfw you never get to have conversations on metro technology, and electric motors
>go to diy nerd!

>>58504703
FT4Y pham

>>58504917
>go back to plebbit normie!

Meant to include this here >>58504917

>>58491926
>There's nothing that make the 3.5mm jack inherently better than anything else

Yes, yes there is. 3.5 mm headphones don't have the need to be powered by internal batteries that also need to be recharged such as the case with bluetooth or other wireless headphones is.

I honestly don't care THAT much about 3.5mm as I switched to Bluetooth a few years back for my daily driver just because it was way more convenient for my commute, but when my Bluetooth headphones die I plug my backup Porta pros in ASAP and not having that option will definitely smart.

>>58492598
>audiophile
99.8% of headphone users aren't audiophiles. Nice argument you got there. As far as i'm concerned the general user will love the wireless experience.

>>58493177
>>58491953
Samsung didn't abandon the headphone jack, its been confirmed that the S8 will come with one

>>58504971
Which also eventually stops holding a charge like all batteries