PC is dead

>>58445023

>"Stagnation in the (personal computer) market continued into the fourth quarter of 2016 as holiday sales were generally weak due to the fundamental change in PC buying behaviour," Gartner principal analyst Mikako Kitagawa said in a release.


OUCH

>Another factor was that people are putting off replacing desk or laptop computers because they use them infrequently, opting instead to go online with smartphones, according to Ms Kitagawa.

OUCH

>>58445023
PC will never die so long as businesses and governments continue using them.

>>58445060
Sure it will die. Innovation will just slow down because the market is shrinking.

Even Intel is slowly dying. They completely abandoned tick-tock and completely slowed down improvements to their consumer chips and are concentrating on enterprise and CPUs for server farms.

That's why Skylake and Kaby Lake have nearly identical performance.

This slowdown will impact nearly all aspects of PC ecosystem as people just start using cheap tablets and phones more and more.

>>58445147
Have you ever used a tablet or a phone? They are trash. The only people who settle for that crap are either poorfags or people who spend 90% of their awake hours on facebook.

Not to imply the latter two are mutually exclusive.

>>58445251
This is kinda the problem. People abandoned PCs after years of crap. They can still get that same crap performance in a phone or tablet without spending 2k on a desktop.

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>>58445023
Yeah I'm permanently replacing my Windows 10 desktop with a GTX 1080 with a 2013 Nexus 7.

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>>58445404
retarded gaymer detected! fuck off back to /v/, manchild.

>>58445023
PC is useful for many tasks but the poor need smartphones more.
They're communication devices more than the PC, which is relatively difficult to carry around.

I'll kill myself when PC's are phased out and the only supported gaming platform are consoles.

I don't want to live in a future were we browse the web on a smart phone, write code on a tablet and play vidya on a console.

How do we stop them?

I wonder if this actually means the end of consumer OS Windows and a move towards linux as the consumer/hobbyist OS.

maybe consumer brand garbage is finally dying and people are learning to remote connect to faster and more secure home servers instead

>>58445548
PCs are needed less and less. "Information economy" can be driven by phones and tablets easily. Only specific tasks need PCs and those people are few.

Your brain is dead, retard. Kill yourself.

>>58445023
>PC market has been dying for 5 years
>AMD hasn't competed in 5 years
>AMD now has a competitive architecture
Who's excited about /pcrenaissance/ in here?

>>58445023
Most people either build them or buy laptops, rarely anyone buys computers other than business.

>>58445023
Computers just need less upgrades.

Most of my friends just use a smartphone with LTE. Thats the only tech they need in their lifes.

>>58445669
>>AMD now has a competitive architecture
kek'd so fucking true. AMD only has a competitive product because Intel gave up on PC market as they're re-architecting and attacking mobile and server-space.

>>58445023
>PC is dieing!!! xD
yeah, just like the 90s and 2000s scare eh?

>>58445023
No one's buying those shitty prebuilts anymore?

>>58445904
We'll see in 4 years I guess since that's when intels brand new arch will launch.

Until then, they're at a dead end with the core arch. They've tapped it for every ounce of performance and power reduction possible.

>>58445937
this.

lmoaing at your life OP.

>>58445639
yea right lol

>>58446318
>No one's buying those shitty prebuilts anymore?
no one's buying the parts either. parts market was always like 1/10th of the pre-built market.

>>58445639
2017 IS THE YEAR OF LINUX

>>58445251
barely, with a good phone you can do almost everything a desktop could do. i imagine a future where docking could be a bigger thing.

>>58445023
>So, what will you move to now that PC is dead?
I will keep using PCs, thank you very much. It's not dead for me and 'market trends' aren't going to convince me otherwise

Who will design the tablets and phones if we don't have desktops?

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>>58445023
>normals are abandoning computers because they are too stupid to use them
>"platform is dead /g/ we have to bail!!!!"

Yeah no thanks.
>>>/reddit/

>>58445023
Do these figures take into account people that custom build theirs, or does it only count those that buy prebuilt crap? I also highly doubt it takes into account aftermarket, which in the wake of slowed progression, I'd say has become increasingly viable for many.

I myself have lived the past 18 years (aka the entire time I've ever owned a pc) entirely in the aftermarket, never having had the opportunity to custom build from new nor buy prebuilt, yet I just built a system about 4 months ago that I'm for the most part content with (even as a lolgaymur), and I would never give up PCs for a shitty phone or a tablet that's little more than a novelty item.

PCs aren't dead. The market's just saturated.

>>58445694
fewer not less

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>>58446984
>too stupid to use them
Or maybe we're the stupid ones for clinging to all this archaic pointless shit.

Maybe the future really is thin light clients and tablets/phones that you can take anywhere.

TABLETS AND PHONES ARE STILL "PERSONAL COMPUTERS" REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE?!

>>58447078
Custom builds and parts are literally less than 1% of PC sales.

>>58447209

citation requested

>>58447209
Less than 1% of the users actually use computers for something useful.

>>58446865
Phone hardware is a joke though, INSI attacks makes it all pointless

>>58445626
Live in obscurity as a full autismo

>>58447246
>implying gaming is useful

kYS

>within your lifetime using a PC will be viewed as archaic
>when people find out that you use a PC instead of a locked-down facebook machine like everyone else, they'll think you're stuck in the past

Dark times are ahead, friends.

>>58445023
I am using laptops since 2012. They use less power, use less space and provide mobility. Every major electronics store in my region has 90% laptops on display and a few HP/Dell desktops because no one wants them anymore.

Once Windows 10 is ported to ARM, we can have slim laptops with all the features of desktop minus the heating and fan noises.

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>>58445023
die PC, long live Mac!

>>58448255
>with all the features of desktop minus the heating and fan noises and performance.
FTFY

>>58445023
don't they just count OEM prebuilts?
what if you count hardware sales?
intel,amd,nvidia would freaking crash in stock price if it was true

>>58448283
Well you can never have a perfect laptop. Compromise little performance for more freedom and longer battery life.

>>58445525
fuck off shitlord, gayming is what will probably keep the desktop pc alive and affordable, go install your shit pajeet custom rom on your tablet

>>58445354
they likely pay more for the phone then they would ever pay for the desktop, while the desktop would last them longer.

>>58448255
A buddy of mine went from laptops to an iPad with a tiny logitech keyboard. he does everything on it. The dude runs a >$100k/year business off his ipad. nuts.

>>58448332
>MUH BULLSHIT REASONS FOR BEING MENTALLY UNDERDEVELOPED
t. buttmad manchild

>>58445694
>>58447188
any dual core will get you by even today, there are very few tasks that demand more

I have a 400€ smartphone and do almost everything with it. Banking, Messaging, Signing and faxing contracts, watch movies, navigating etc

The only thing I need PC for software development and some games.

PCs will continue to exist, but only as workstations.

>>58448339
How do these people get so rich through simple business ideas? I am struggling to start a small business but the cash flows don't add up. Too many overheads just for the office.

>>58448277
Macs are also PC's retard. Matter of fact, Apple has abandoned their iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro completely.

It's a sad reality, but it's reasonable. A personal computer is both a consumption and a production device. A great deal of people who used the personal computer before only used it for consumption. Tablets and phones seem like a more attractive option for consumption nowadays, but they are completely not suited for production - which is why it is extremely sad - machines that can be used for production are produced in smaller and smaller numbers.

>>58448384
At this point even offices are letting go of bulky desktop aside from servers. You only find powerful desktops in engineering and graphic design studios where they need huge computing power and high end GPU's. They are however a small portion of the PC market. The recent introduction of gayming laptops by Razr, Acer, HP and MSI, soon even the manchildren will be using laptops for gaming.

>>58448356

This nigga gets it

You can do all casual tasks on a smartphone. The graph in OP is misleading because laptops are what's being cannibalized by smartphones and honestly laptops have always been shit.

>>58447189
use a tablet for anything

you now attached a keyboard, congrats, less functional laptop for more then a laptop costs.

you know how fun it is to poke screens with a laptop? there is a reason that shit never took off outside of foldable laptops.

>>58448404
Laptops are fine. Laptops are still perfectly capable of production (even though I prefer proper desktop workstations).

You also forgot programming. Everything in our oiffices is a powerful desktop computer with two monitors.

>>58448210
if gameing was taken into account that number would be between 10 and 20%

>>58448363
he runs a drop shipping website and he fulfills orders that people place on his site. he draws a ton of fucking traffic tho. he basically makes between 10-15% on each item that he resells.

all that from an ipad and he works maybe 2hrs each day. I've watched him work because that was fucking unbelievable to me. he has some ipad apps that automate the shit out of things and he can answer questions, re-issue chargebacks, handle returns etc with few taps on the screen.

the due is not super-smart but he's well-organized and he loves doing that kind of work. he slacks off and does who knows what for the rest of the day.

>>58448422
MBP supports 2x5K + its own Retina display. It is impressive.

>>58448444
I haven't used a computer with as retina display so I can't comment.

>>58448294
what does it count,

big name oems?
small custom shops
all parts sold
what?

>>58445023
Because everybody already has one. Same as with tablets. The sales will even out over time

Nope. That article is wrong. It's the sale of pre built pcs that's declining.

Just because people aren't buying prebuilts doesnt mean they aren't buying pcs.

>>58448384

Production of naked pictures by sluts has definitely gone up.

Honestly, talentless shits shouldn't be making music, movies or writing. It's only making it worse for everybody. Just look at what happened to soundcloud and EDM in general a couple of years back. Suddenly a huge influx of faggots and niggers started making music in fruity loops and as a result the whole scene practically died from oversaturation.

>>58445023
Why would someone who doesn't play games upgrade? Even a core 2 duo is fine for normies.

>>58448474
Could it really be that substantially more people are building computers? Almost everyone I know is afraid to touch computer parts.

>>58448480
>Honestly, talentless shits shouldn't be making music, movies or writing.
I disagree with you. To find out whether you have talent for something or not, you must do it. So everyone should have an easy way to start. Including people you refer to as talentless hacks.

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>>58448497
>>58448466
It's not just that people don't upgrade because they're fine, people are moving away from PCs in massive numbers.

In 2014, mobile surpassed desktop in web usage. that trend is only accelerating

http://www.smartinsights.com/mobile-marketing/mobile-marketing-analytics/mobile-marketing-statistics/

Us PC users are old fags now. Normies and young don't use PCs. I saw my 10 year old nephew during family Xmas dinner and he didn't even know how to use my laptop. He only uses tablets and a game console.

>>58446865

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If you're gonna make bait make it believable

>>58445354
No, facebook shitters abandoned PC. Which is good. These people don't do anything worthwhile with their computers anyway, they just shitpost and virtue signal on facebook.

>>58448210
>>implying gaming is useful
>implying that humans haven't been playing games since before recorded history
>implying recreation isn't useful for relieving stress and socialising

>>58445023
>Normies don't wanna buy a large, heavy, non portable Facebook machine
Color me surprised. But how does this mean the death of PCs in any way?

>>58445023
Oh no rampant and wasteful consumerism what will we ever do

>>58445023
>percentage

Fucking irrelevant.

>>58449631
math illiteracy affected kid

Phones are devices geared toward consumption.
PCs are for consumption and creation.
It's only natural that the vast majority of people would use the device for consumption given the choice.

The PC is not dying. There are too many people who still actually want and use them, myself included.

What you're seeing with the decline is the normie who kept saying "anon, you know computers right? Can you come round and sort out my PC, all I did was click on this cute purple gorilla thing and now things are popping up all over" fucking off to tablets where they're protected from themselves. This is a GOOD thing!

The only downsides I can see are PC prices going up, because they'll be a niche thing for nerds like they were in the 80s and so demand will be lower, and if you actually *wanted* to be pestered by the guy 3 doors away to fix his malware infested Packard Bell shitbox every other week (this was great pocket money when I was about 14) then that scene's probably dried up by now already. Otherwise it can only be a good thing that your average Facebooker has moved on to phones and tablets.

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>>58445639

>>58445639
Dream on anon.

>>58445023
I'm unironically considering selling all my desktops and buying a single 11" to 13" laptop.

>>58445023
I wonder why people don't buy new computers. don't they want those sweet 5% performance increases with the new processors?

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>>58445023
Sales fall because there are no reasons to upgrade.

I've built 2 PCs in the last decade. My current one is from mid 2013 and still runs all games fine and there aren't many other reasons to upgrade for the normie user.

Maybe VR will do the trick.

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>>58445023
Maybe this will push the hardware market to focus on meaningful improvements instead of marginal gimmick based cash grabs.

>>58447209
Bullshit

This is prebuilts. Part sales has climbed.

>>58448332
you are a retard. SOHO thin clients are what keeps pc alive

Really considering buying a Laptop for work, my company Laptop is fine but it's lagging horrendously from time to time. I honestly spend more time using it rather than my meme gayming PC.

Blame AMD. Almost providing no competition.

>>58450227
this.

market saturation is the only reason. All other opinions are people projecting.

>>58445023
I hate using phones and tablets. They only exist for their convenience of portability. Otherwise, PC is always preferred to work on.

The problem is that normies don't work. They only want to chat with friends via text and social media and take pictures of themselves getting drunk and being whores. If they do anything that might be easier on a real keyboard, they buy an Apple.

I'm using hp Elitebook with docking station at work and at home
it's so convenient, no need to plug a shit ton of cables in every time

>>58445040
Fuck you shill

I own a 3k rig and I use my nexus 6 70% of the time. Can't beat that mobility.

Pretty sure the gaehmer custom PC is growing. Good thing too, it will keep the desktop alive. You can always make gpus and CPUs better by consuming more power/bigger dies (to an extent). It will be a long time before mobiles if ever catch up to a gtx 1080 or a high end i7. Arm will reach maximum performance on silicon in the not too distant future like current Intel CPUs.

>>58450453
iPhone/iPad CPUs are already performing at desktop Haswell i3 levels.

>>58448332
This

>>58448332
>Ayymd will keep it affordable

Fixed that

>>58450707
>iPhone/iPad CPUs are already performing at desktop Haswell i3 levels.
>dual core
LOL, also not even close.

>>58445023
>counting in only factory prebuilt systems
>assuming that you need a new computer every year
>this graph

it makes no sense, when the desktop user amount is only on the rise, custom built desktops aswell getting popular these days.

>>58445060
Bad news for you pal. I've been working in End User Computing for a decade. VDI, either what we traditionally call VDI, actual virtual desktops, or what had been historically called remote desktop RDS or XenDesktop -- is real. And it is eating PC refresh cycles.

Companies are not replacing outgoing PC's with PC's. They are replacing outgoing PC's with thin clients.

The prevalence of web apps combined with fast wifi or 4g means that laptops are not safe either. Chromebooks are seeing some real adoption.

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>>58446865
>a good phone you can do almost everything a desktop could do.

I'll probably move to a server desu ;)

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>>58448317
You spoke of porting Windows 10 to ARM and you dare mention freedom?

>>58450966
he has the right idea anon.
docking your phone to instantly connect to wireless keyboard/mouse, speakers and monitor(s)/tv would be glorious.
so much time would be saved in so many ways.

is it shrinking due to the growing share of other devices or is it shrinking in absolute terms? I think it's the former because mobile market is still growing.

>tfw my next pc is gonna be a notebook

Don't get me wrong, having a high end pc is fun, but it just doesn't worth it.

>>58448404
I was an intern at ARM, all the Android devs had two 10-core Xeons (IIRC) with 64 GB RAM

>prices still not going down

>>58445023
Just because the pleb isn't using a PC anymore that doesn't mean the entire platform is dying.

There will always be a need for high performance computers by professionals.

>>58450883
But muh Geekbench

Hobbiests and China will take over the general purpose computing market. Libre hardware will eventually dominate. Drivers will be written overnight when things are documented and open. This will only speed up things in cooperation with the maker movement.

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>>58448561
thats probably because there many people that have no pc or mobile jet

if you count notebook as pc the graph would be probably the same as pc

>>58448561
I'm sure this doesn't take into account pc users who also use mobile devices on the side.

Why are people always so surprised to see figures like these?
Of course desktop PC market is shrinking, it's inevitable.
Normies do jack shit with a desktop.
There's zero need for you to get a desktop or even a laptop if you only check your email, browse facebook or play flash games.
And huge surprise, that's what most people do.
And when it comes to gaming, consoles are a pretty big thing.
So that leaves the enthusiasts,content creators and people who need PC for other professional purposes.
Not a very big audience and when you throw in the minimal performance increases we've been having, even this group has stopped buying new computers and parts.

In the future the userbase is divided in two parts.
The people who use tablets,gayming laptops and consoles for gaming and their daily tasks.
And the prosumer group of people who need the processing power.
We're also going to witness a massive price difference growing between these two markets.
Anything outside the normie stuff will be expensive as hell.

>>58445023
Surprised?
Normies doesn't need a modular PC to browse facebook and watch porn. Tablet does this job just fine.

>>58452802
I don't understand how /g/ and /v/ think the pc gaming market is anywhere near the size of the console market.

There will always be a market for hardware enthusiasts, and as we become more and more integrated into the digital world stronger and stronger processors will be necessary.

I doubt Disney is going to drop CGI anytime soon.
But Desktops are definitely on the decline for use outside of rendering, gaming or modelling. Having something the size of a piece of bread in your hand to browse the web, hold and access files, communicate, check the time, do math both advanced and mundane all while letting you reserve lunch is just too handy.
The enthusiast market isn't drying up, I predict it will only get larger, but more and more people are going to buy smartphones in the future too, far more than will buy a desktop computer.

OEM PC sales are going down, but PC components are selling like never before.

>>58445251
This is /v/-tier reasoning. You get an E for being a retard

>>58451963
Like macs? Professionals dont use anything "high performance"

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>>58446865
the fuck are you smoking?

When's the last time Intel put out something worthwhile upgrading to? PC Companies must be mad as hell at Intel

>>58445060
The day a laptop or a phone can handle PC speeds and graphics for quite the same price (plus the commodity of being portable), it'll be the day PC dies.

>>58445023
>world filling up with niggers being overrun with nigger technology

Surprise, surprise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTzO-_Yl4d0

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>>58448561
>Time to build a desktop only community

>>58453637
The future is bright, anon

>>58445023
>PC is dead
I'll just switch to pic related

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>>58453693
woops

PC platform is not dying
nobody just upgrades anymore

I still use my mobo from 2009 and it is hard to justify upgrade ATM

>>58453430
Who uses macshit?

>>58453827
proffesionals
people who do real work
iOS devs, not pajeet droid devs

>>58445023
There will always be workstation level consumer hardware available in the "PC" form factor. Normie shit prebuilt garbage is inconsequential, just stop being poor.

>>58448332
A $300 PS4 + smartphone can take care of the average person's gaming and computing needs.

Hell throw in a $99 Chromebook and you even have the office suite and desktop web browsing experience covered.

>>58453206
>There will always be a market for hardware enthusiasts,
True, but the market will be small and won't justify huge investments from the large companies. So the market will stagnate.

>and as we become more and more integrated into the digital world stronger and stronger processors will be necessary.
Bullshit. You can get by with an 8 year old Core processor for all your 1080p needs.

>>58445592
just discipline yourself into ceasing to game altogether

and I'm not trolling you, I did it. it was very difficult at first, but now I have to force myself to sit down and play a game

and this isn't about how you should cease to enjoy life and be "productive", but its about how gaming has measurable progress that doesn't translate to reality though. for example - I read a book? I become more knowledgeable. My hobby is running or lifting? I gain strength and endurance.

My hobby is gaming? I level up, but only in a digital world. It provides you with the impression that you are improving upon something, but in the end you have nothing to show for it

>>58445023
The PC overall is losing ground to mobile platforms. This is nothing new.

Yet the enthusiast/gamer segment is growing like never before. I'm not afraid for the platform.

Time to get a PC I guess.

>>58454558
IMO this isn't strictly a critique of gaming but of the state of the gaming industry at the moment. you don't get more knowledgeable reading Dan Brown, you know.

video games can (and often do) enrich the same way a good book, movie or album would. the medium is still relatively young. incidentally, most games are pure entertainment, but that shouldn't define the practice altogether.

there's also a lot to be said about the potential developmental and geriatric benefits of gaming but that's still the subject of scientific study and not something I'm willing to opine on yet.

I don't believe you "conditioned" yourself to quit gaming. you simply found other ways to spend your spare time. I think the stigma around gaming will slowly disappear as the gen Y kids and millennial start to occupy more of our culture. and just like music, literature and cinema, it will become a noble aspiration as a result.

>>58445023
>there's no point in upgrading anything besides GPU and adding more RAM since forever
>enterprise buys PCs in bulk and then just pays for maintenance for years after
>WOW PC IS DEAD GUYS XDDD

I'm sure these shit articles account for separate parts sold to build a PC

Oh wait

They don't

>>58454933
For companies to invest into new technology, they need to sell a lot of units. If no one's buying, they're not investing.

Fucking THINK, you dolt.

>>58446865
This. So much this! I've been waiting so long for this idea to come to true fruition.

Android can already do most of what a traditional desktop OS can do. Only thing holding it back are Apple fucks with inferior os who have been conditioned to think mobile means mobile only.

The have usb and hdmi...they have mouse functions already built in (needs refined) can already work with most PC peripherals (they plugging any controller or external hdd...they work!)...you can print with them.

Yes you can even program with them.

Why the Fuck can't this happen?

Seriously...dual mode docked Android phones. One for phone use but when docked the os becomes more desktop like.

Like a moniter/shell you plug the phone into. Maybe put some extra hardware into the shell and add a few extra USB ports...maybe a GPU or some such. It turns into a full fledged desktop and charges your phone.

Slap steam on that and you've got a winner. This should have happened years ago.

Maybe bring back the iMac g4 design (the ilamp thing) with the swivel monitor and a touchscreen for artists and designers to free hand draw or for mobile on desktop apps.

This is what we need. This should be the new desktop. Phone while on the go...more powerful desktop when ya need it and less shit to buy and less cluttered bullshit.

Someone get on this.

>>58457733
So far we don't have a CPU with enough power to run most productivity software AND fit in a phone with its thermal restrictions.
I have a dual OS tablet with an atom x5 and it's way too slow in Windows mode to use stuff like VS, CorelDraw or Photoshop.

>>58457733
>Android
n-no thanks

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>>58457733
>phone is docked with monitor, keyboard and stuff

>9001 desktop mode apps open

>incoming call

>oh shit I forgot to charge my bluetooth thingamajig

>>58457590
Except it's designed from the ground up to encourage shitty practices, viruslike behavior(constant spying, data oversharing, adware) and teach users to be good little passive consumers with no control over their own device... it's not good

>>58453637
and revive the desktop threads

>>58445023
The market is adjusting, it's not really dying.

People aren't upgrading every two years anymore like they used to when there's no tangible performance boosts for the majority of use cases, even a 10 year old mid-range Core 2 system is still good enough to solve a lot of problems and run current software to do it, you couldn't say the same of even a flagship Pentium II-300 box in 2007. Moore's law is dead and the fundamentals of software haven't changed that much to keep up with hardware advancement, we're ultimately still using the same old '70s algorithms to build spreadsheets, shitpost, whatever, because there's only so many ways you can do something right.

There are indeed plenty of people who used their PCs mostly as glorified internet appliances who now have switched off to phones, but that doesn't mean even those guys don't keep a mothballed laptop around for when they need to do something actually productive. Tablets and phones will always be shit for things other than content consumption by merit of their interface and form factor, and even the average person recognizes this no matter how much /g/ likes to project their mindlessness on them.

>>58448332
This. Fucking tired of laptop normies and their dual core mobile """"""""CPUs"""""""" and shitty 10" screens.
>muh portability
Fucking normalscum.

>>58455099
There's definitely no shortage of sales in the pure-profit server market, throwing money at something doesn't magically make it better, it sure as hell doesn't make the laws of physics stop working or make solutions magically materialize out of thin air either.

PCs aren't dead, tower PCs are dead.

Eventually normies will either settle with TVs which have an included PC with an OS and browser or buy one of these: PC sticks, small-form factor PCs or 2 in 1s. Or some cheaper version of the Surface studio.

Since normies are quite stupid and uninformed they didn't yet get the memo about these products. And companies have been quite bad at advertising them. Or maybe they still can't let go of the big profit margins from big PCs (towers, laptops).

Clearly, their current strategy to sell PCs is not working. They must be really stupid about this.

>>58458359
>muh normies
Please stop trying to act like some cool enlightened counter-culturalist, you're not fooling anyone.

Sometimes things are the way they are because they're legitimately better, nobody wants to be glued to a shitty desk if they don't have to be.

Good, the PC master race will be rid of the normies again then. Back to the golden 80s we go.

>>58445023
didn't tablet sales stagnate too? I think most normies are just using phones as their only device now

why does this thread have over 150 replies

journalist-shits have been repeating this since 2007 for clickbait money

Walk into any business any where even the journalist's media company

you will have at least one department on PCs

>MUH SALES DECLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have workstations from 2003 still working that doesn't mean the business owning them drank the anti-pc kool aid. If you started from 100%, then yes obviously you would see a "decline".

whole thread is shit

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respects

>>58457733
Nobody wants to use that shit, especially with fucking Android, if I wanted a toy that could only run bloated website front-ends I'd just bolt a fucking iPad to the wall and be done with it.

The only thing that could make the phone model remotely compelling is a real OS and high availability of docks to allow you to use your device to actually accomplish something anywhere, but even that is still much worse than a nice ultraportable laptop with a big dock at home to handle things that need better performance.

>>58458455
>back to the golden era of forking out $3,000 for shitty mid-range hardware with equally shitty support and poor documentation we go
Ah yes, I can't wait. But at least the big bad normies wouldn't hurt your fee-fees anymore somehow, right?

>>58458513
Because there are people who still believe this shit 10 years later and taking their shit opinion down a notch is entertaining.

>>58457590
> being google's slave that much

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>>58453768
This. I'm running current games at 100+ fps on an i7 920 bought in 2010. Why would anyone except video editors / graphics engineers buy new hardware? People who have bought more than two CPUs since 2007 are idiots, plain and simple. CPUs have been stagnating since AMD fell off the wagon and the PC-ification of console architecture (with hardware from 2011) means that even console ports perform okay nowadays. Office users essentially need a PC from 2000 + SSD for faster work flow. Gamers need a CPU from 2010 and a GPU from 2013 + SSD. Only certain "professionals" need a newer CPU, top of the line GPU and more than 8 GB of RAM.

I've been planning an upgrade to Ryzen and I've been feeling impatient with it. But now that we know it'll be in the next few months I'm realizing: I still can't justify buying new hardware. What new game am I going to play with it? Quake Champions, possibly, but that comes later in the year. So now I'm no longer waiting for Ryzen, I'm waiting for a game that would justify buying Ryzen. lmao

>>58458379
>server market
server PCs are vastly diff from consumer PCs,

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>>58458775
I'm in the same boat. I used to run old C2Duo for a long time, then bought a used quad core i5 and still use that i5. Everything's fast and I have no need to upgrade the CPU.About the only thing I did upgrade was SSD, fans and a new graphics card so it can drive my 4k monitor.

New CPUs are for suckers.

>>58450707
Can people stop posting this meme?

>>58445023
>PC is dead
So is punk rock, ENIAC, ada lovelace, jimmy page, Hendrix, 6 gorillion jews, tupac and big e... etc.

Things are changing big deal

>>58460078
>big e

Kill yourself, you dumb fucking shit stain.

>>58445040
[citation needed]

>>58455099
Parts is like 12billion$ industry, i dont think it's going anywhere any time soon.

It'd be swell if phone OSs weren't complete shit. They're all shit, all of them.

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>>58445639
Pic related is the only linux OS that has a small chance of being a popular consumer OS.

>>58448332
gaymen is moving away from PCs as well, mobile gaming is already making more money than PC gaming.

no one is going to make PC games if the market dies

>>58450327
because thin clients aren't going to be your work phone hooked up to a monitor and keyboard/mouse soon enough

>>58459889
That's true when all you do is shitpost and watch chinese cartoons

>>58460293
Linux is a kernel, not an OS.

>>58461393
I will never call it GNU/Linux despite my distribution following the naming scheme. Stallman has done some great things in the fsf and gcc, but that doesn't warrant putting his name in there for things people can implement after reading baby's first C book.

>>58461468
You opinion doesn't change the fact that it's the GNU system you're running, with the Linux added, or if you insist, with the Firefox browser added.

phones are dogshit for almost anything. i can see them being adequate if all you do is play shitty puzzle games, text, and go on facebook, but for anything other than that, and this includes basic web browsing, computers are far better.

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>>58458571
Dumbest non argument shit I've ever read.

>>58457951
If this was true our software wouldn't have ran 10 years ago either. Modern software is bloated and this would give an impetus to fix it.

>>58452802
fuck. I'll build my computer setup today before it surge (no wait, DRAM prices just started rolling the ball)

>>58461303
>That's true when all you do is shitpost and watch chinese cartoons
pls do tell what I need a more powerful CPU for. I'll wait.

>>58452802
>Anything outside the normie stuff will be expensive as hell.
>implying normalfag shit isn't expensive as fuck
They buy apple products, expensive gaymer laptops, expensive phones every year, etc.

>>58461837
Media editing, running a server, rendering videos, runnning complex physics simulations. Nothing that you'd do ofc

>>58461513
>You opinion doesn't change the fact that it's the GNU system you're running, with the Linux added
I run a self-completed MirOS, faggot. No commie stallman bullshit here

>>58462198
>Media editing, running a server, rendering videos, runnning complex physics simulations. Nothing that you'd do ofc
So basically video editing and games.

And you actually believe that unless I'm not doing media editing and not playing games, I'm not doing any actual work with my PC?

Are you fucking retarded or something?

>>58446865
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/195898-this-35-dock-lets-you-use-your-android-smartphone-as-a-full-fledged-desktop

This shit already exists.