/hpg/ - Headphone General

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chifiman good

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My Fidelio X2s arrived today and my first impressions are great, I also have He-400is coming. Initially this was all I wanted in headphones as I have IEMs for portable use. However I think I may want to have a closed/portable headphone for portable use and not sure if 2 pairs of headphones for desktop use is justifiable as a University student. I've decided that I should either return my x2s and buy either the Modhouse argon or Meze 99, or keep the x2s and purchase a pair of Vmoda m100s for portable use as they are relatively not very expensive. Please help me as I really do not know what option to pursue.

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I currently have Monoprice 8323's; they are nothing compared to my monitors so I'm looking for something better, but I also don't want to have anything be a downgrade from the 8323's either.

>Budget
$150 or under
>Location
Home
>Source
iPhone SE; sometimes computer
>Type of headphone
Over the ear
>Open or closed
Whichever
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough
>Sound signature
Accurate but not fatiguing
>Past headphones
Monoprice 8323

The Senn HD598's seem really appealing, but the one thing that worries me is all the comments that they're a little light on the bass. Can anyone here who has experience with both the Monoprices and the Senns comment on just how much less bass the 598s have compared to the 8323s?

>>58432367
>That horrible taste in music

>>58432365
its meme

>>58433030
Your Bob Marley SkullCandies are a meme, faggot.

>>58432347

>Budget
$150-$200 nzd
>Location
New Zealand
>Source
I will be using these headphones predominantly for gaming, music producing and listening to music off my PC.
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
don't care
>Comfort level
Comfy for long sessions
>Sound signature
Not too much bass, but certainly need a little there - not too fussed, just as long as they sound good
>Past headphones
shitty 10 dollars ones

Cheers, would be great if you would help a brother out.

L4 gaming ,music, movies (7.1) headphones with changeable cabel, comfy af, sound quality as high as possible

>>58432615
>"Location"
>"Home"

Nice.

My DT 770 PRO just broke today (no sound on right side) after it passed the 2 year warranty by 3 months.

Just looking for closed headphones now that will last for a long time.
Sub-$70 preferred. Anything on sale that fits the category?

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>still to lazy to remove the dt880 from this list

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>>58432347
>fucking slut

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template and post your own

>>58432615
K553 pro

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>Not posting Sennheiser.

>>58428029
bump

I'm looking for a longer headphone cable.

Needs to use 2x 2.5mm to the cups.

At least 2m long.

And I'm in Europe.

>>58432615
558 for open
m40x with replacement pads for closed

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the day has come my comrades. after 2 and a half my mx170 have died out. the jack started to fail and i no longer have audio on the right speaker. i need to buy new ones. what are good earphones like these, not like plugs. jvc and sennheiser are priority because they lasted the longest for me. need to have good sound and comfortable for sleeping since i can't fall asleep without listening to something

What's the name of those third party earpads everyone praises?

>>58435018
brainwavs

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just posting some of my stuff

>>58435062
Yeah those are the ones I think!

The earpads on these 400i are kinda shallow. Since I got such a huge head they clamp on quite hard.

>>58432367
pls help

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just ordered totally-not-beats by sennheiser, what can i expect from them?

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Can anyone explain how to find headphones with similar sound signatures?
I love my AKG 701's but I'm looking for an upgrade that has the same clean, analytical sound.
I've tried DT 990 pro's, ATH-M50X's, hd700's and even a pair of ie80's but none of them have the same clarity and detail as the AKG's (Using an gen1 Schiit stack).

I feel like the answer is in the numbers but frequency response graphs don't mean much to me and after reading too many ludicrous forum posts by self-proclaimed audiophiles (the last one claimed their amplifier sounded different after their electricity supplier swapped from coal to wind/solar) I feel like I was asking in the wrong places.

Got a new pair of headphones yesterday. Gave them a listen, sounded kinda hollow.

Let them play overnight, sound much better already.

When memes proves themselves to be legit, it feels good.

>>58435266
flat sound, headache, warranty claim within 3 months. and most important of all, regret

>>58435338
have you tried the audio technica r70x?

My friend says he wanted to buy some Sennheiser HD 569s
should I tell him to get something better or do you think it's okay for normie-tier headphones?

>Budget
Around $250 USD (roughly $350 AUD)
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC; don't have a DAC+amp, and I'd rather not have to get one
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Enough to be comfortable for moderately long periods
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter

>>58435062
>>58435177
Oh I was looking for mr speakers alpha pads.

They look so comfy. But they also look like they will change the frequency range significantly.

Too bad I'm a filthy european.

i need a good unidirectional microphone i can attach to my headphones because my desktop mic picks up all the sound from my keyboard.

any recommendations? i was thinking this
https://www.amazon.com/Antlion-Audio-ModMic-Attachable-Microphone/dp/B00T6XUL8S

>>58435617
did you look at some mic tests?
modmic seems to sound pretty bad in the comparisons I've checked

>>58435721
yea i've noticed that just now too, seems to be shilled really hard, thats how i found it.

any alternatives?

>>58435740
I'd look into cheap shotgun mics, there's plenty for budget filmmaking.

>>58435721
can you use desk mics?

>>58433661
Get HD 558 for good sound stage (gaming) and relatively flat frequency response (making music)
they are certainly not to bassy but the bass they do have are good and clear.
You can easily mod them to a HD559 (google)

>>58433965
Repair them, all parts are "user replaceable"

>>58435773
>You can easily mod them to a HD559 (google)
598*

>>58435773
>You can easily mod them to a HD559 (google)
you mean to a 598*

I need some headphones for my Android from amazon.co.uk below 20 GB pounds to get free delivery

would prefer a working control

what should I get?

>>58435988
jvc or sennheiser

Is there any difference in sound quality between the Grado sr60e and sr80e?
How strong is the headband in these models?

AKG Y50 at 50€, how good of a deal is it?

>Budget
Around $70, would go 100$ if really worth
>Location
Israel (us and eu are OK to order from)
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
Iem
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Enough to be comfortable for moderately long periods
>Sound signature
Neutral

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Su /g/. Not totally headphone related but didn't want to make a new thread.

I have this old PCI sound card for my PC but now that I'm upgrading to kaby lake but seems like pretty much every manufacturer droped it everywhere but the low end models.

Is it even worth it to keep looking for a decent mobo with a PCI slot or just drop it and get anything with a decent onboard audio?

>>58436307
Shit, get a AKG K240 for that amount

>>58435159
What DAC is that?

>>58434900
Fill out the form, or at least give a budget and tonal preference.

>>58436377
why not an external dac/amp?

>>58435740
This >>58435746
Shotgun mics are incredible for not picking up keyboard/mouse sounds. I use a cheap Chinese one for my YouTube videos and it sounds pretty decent. You may need 48V phantom power though.

>>58436377
Get an external soundcard, or an audio interface if you need microphone inputs.

>>58435338
>frequency response graphs don't mean much to me
That's what you really need to learn to look and listen to multiple pairs of headphones. Being able to tie what the plots show to how it sounds like is a learned trait which can only be achieved by experience with sound signatures and knowledge of the measurements. Using an equalizer or a program like Harman's how to listen will make this learning easier and quicker.

>>58434660
>flat is boring meme

>>58434660
dt770

>>58436377
Stuf like Essence STX/STX II is similar or better than most of external DAC+AMP combos in the <200$ price range. Sure if you go above that you can get better external solutions but otherwise there's no point unless you want more shit cluttering your desk. Don't listen to memes.

>>58437055
STX II is better than most discrete units you can buy. Headphone amplifier part is a little limited but the I/O options and DA-converter performance is excellent.

>>58437145
My old STX (first version) still behaves like a champ, has zero white noise, crackling or anything of the sort and can drive my 600 ohm DT880s without issues. I can also plug my speakers into it and they get more than loud enough, which is a big plus to me.

Meanwhile the shit stack I bought didn't sound any better but started to exhibit sound issues just past the warranty period and Little Dot MK2 I purchased after, somehow managed to sound worse than the STX and one lamp died not even 2 after the purchase.

I sold the shit stack for scraps, returned the chinkdot and dusted that STX, gonna be using it until I save enough for real equipment or some non-meme midfi techology appears on the market.

>>58436837

flat is boring though if you are on the go for example.

i just got myself some parrot zik 2 headphones and the added sound enhancements just make it so much more fun than my magnetostats.

of course it can't beat the detail, articulation and speed but damn it sounds like a concert

>>58437433
Yeah I mentioned STX II specifically because it's kind of extremely good for the price no matter what you compare it to.

>>58437457
No it means the music you listen is boring.

>detail
Well that is part of the response and relates to the flatness quite well.
>articulation
Fluff term.
>speed
Zik could very well be better at that. Not that it matters which one is. Fluff term aswell as most people use it to describe things which has nothing to do with speed.

>>58434660
Those kinds of hyperbolic expectations are totally unrealistic, the sort of thing only someone without a clue would say.
As for sound signature, which seems like such a simple concept to find totally incomprehensible:
HD202 - W-shape
V6/7506 and M40x - mild V-shape, some bass boost, low mid cancellation, treble spikes
HM5/XPT100 - generally sloped-off response, some bass boost

SHP9500 - would be somewhat even if not for the substantial low frequency rolloff
518 and 558 - boosted upper bass/lower mid, somewhat recessed upper mid/treble

Bass response on closed headphones may vary significantly.

>>58437508
>your music is boring

it's called taste anon, i hope you figured by now that it differs per person

i don't know why you criticise my description words. did it trigger your autism?

if so i'm sorry

about the Zik. yeah but for 120€ as good as new, i'm really surprised by how much detail it spits out. it has more details than the akg k712 pro i previously owned. probably due to the enhancing algorythms which of course make them sound artifical but it simply works

>>58437565

Not him but if you claim that the FR that keeps all the instruments at the same volume is worse than one that enhance one part it means that what you are listen to truly bores you, you might need better samples like 320k mp3 too

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SMSL Panda stack or JDS Element?
Will be using with AKG K712poo.
Anyone have experience with SMSL products?

also, a 16v adapter will work fine in the UK, right?
If i get the Element it will be from a german website, it's not going to explode when i put it into a bongland power socket is it?

>>58437654
a frequency reponse alone doesn't keep instruments at a realistic space.
a drumkit can sound close or distant depending on how the headphone is built.

ultrasone headphones for example use a special buildup for a native soundstage enhancement even on a closed back design which i really prefer on a mobile setup.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultrasone-900i-S-Logic-Headphones-Black/dp/B0188Z2I76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484152262&sr=8-1&keywords=ultrasone+pro900i


i'm a hobby music producer so i know some shit about frequencies and properly equalise them on my output devices to make them sound natural on my ears by what is possible.

i listen to Haywyre, Just A Gent, Noisia, B-Motion from my own CD rips

Why does my 400i sound so.. it's like I'm in a can, and I can't tell if the different instruments are more prominent on one side than the other.

Everything seems to be slightly shifted towards the left.
Soundstage seems tilted.

Faulty pair?

>>58437736

>a frequency reponse alone doesn't keep instruments at a realistic space.
>properly equalise them on my output devices to make them sound natural on my ears by what is possible

I can agree with this, not everyone has equal hearing and hearing age, isn´t very hard to make sure that everyone is going to listen the same thing that you produce, in all honesty i haven´t use that many headphones, right now i´m buying basic under 300 usd ones

>>58437824
Probably. Hifiman quality control for you.

>>58437824
either one of your ear has a hearing damage, your eardrum pressure level is uneven, or your product is faulty.

try some sneezing aor pressure evening methods maybe, or stretch out your jawbone

>>58437824
What happens when you flip the headphones around?

I thought I had a channel imbalance, but it was just hearing damage...

>>58437870
>>58438016
>>58438049
After further testing, with my D2000, it seems to be the source. Flipping them around, changing between the two, the same issue remains.

I'm awaiting another amp to compare the two headphones, but the D2000 sounds overall much better than the 400i.

I really hope it presents itself better in a few days.

>>58437565
>did it trigger your autism?
Kind of as there are terms which are used to describe sound and terms which are used on a whim without any kind of definition of what they are. These are terms which change their meaning from one person to the next. Worse yet is when you use a term which does actually have a definition in describing sound signature(warm), perception(transparency) or what is happening physically(speed) and use it wrong to describe something it doesn't have a definition for. It's confusing and nobody actually knows what you are talking about.

>>58437654
>320k mp3
Not only is that extremely vague, it has a very different effect on the sound than frequency magnitude assuming it has any effect at all(transparency).

>>58437736
>a frequency reponse alone doesn't keep instruments at a realistic space
What is this space?
>a drumkit can sound close or distant depending on how the headphone is built.
Vast majority of this is related the the FR.

>>58436980
thanks.
>>58437523
thanks again, you said you will write something up by this thread about how to describe audio in a more quantitative fashion.

>>58438174
i'm doing some very sensitive testing here with my 400i compared to my 558 and it seems to be fucking fine

In-ear headphone recs for >$150?
Currently using Sennheiser Momentum In-Ear and enjoy them. I also have a pair of cx500 that i dont think sound as good, but its probably because I bought them froma guy in Hong Kong and their counterfeit.

>>58438548
Am I going to have to return these for a new pair..?

I got 2 weeks to play around anyway.

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Fuck! There a pair of Audeze lcd2's on headfi for 575. I'm so tempted. I've never seen them that cheep before.

>>58437736
>frequency reponse alone
You don't grasp what the entire frequency response is, only a portion of it. Unfortunately, most audio folks don't know what a frequency response is supposed to be either.

>special buildup
Driver aimed away from canal entrance, meant to maximize pinna interference. That's what the ad copy claims, anyway. Of course the frequency response can describe that.

>>58437716
bumping this post
someone help me figure out smsl
i see their stuff getting good reviews from reputable sources like http://www.qobuz.com/GB-en/info/Hi-Res-Guide/S-M-S-L-Panda-System-the-power-of177725 and other reviewers but i go over to reddit and the schiit fangirls are absoutely bashing everything and anything made by SMSL.
What to believe?

>>58438613

They were $500 during black friday, b stock straight from Audeze. But that's still a good price.

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I plan on buying the beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium (250 Ω). They cost around 150 (Euro) here. I want to buy the FiiO E10K Olympus 2 as a DAC but it is out of stock everywhere. Any suggestions on another reasonable (~80 Euro) DAC as an alternative?

>>58438812
wow, I wish i'd have jumped on that!

>>58438862
> FiiO E10K Olympus 2
>250 ohms
what are you doing

>>58435266
No one online talks about them for a reason. I'm trying to sell mine right now. I wonder if I can get $50.

>>58438751

The brand is good and cheap, the m3, m6 and amps are reccomended

HD600 vs SRH1540 vs SRH1840?

> Beats are one of the few headphones that include a no-bullshit 3,5mm on both sides replaceable cable
> It's the only part that isn't glued in and designed to break if you try to remove it
What the fuck is this? every other brand uses some meme connector that you can't get in your local electronics store for a dollar.
Why did Monster/Apple get this right and nobody else followed suit?

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Just spunked in the mesh of my roommates HD600's after fapping to his gf's Facebook, that's what you get for breaking my phone while you were drunk you retarded asshole.

The oppo ha-2 really brought these 400i to life.

They are surprisingly tough to drive, but the amp is also contemplating the flaws of the 400i.

what DAC or amp should I get for my DT 770 PRO 80 ohms

>>58440156
none

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>>58432365
Would be very hesitant in giving any money to Hifiman when you see the bullshit you're funding, like this new Edition 6

>>58437824

Check with other 2 headphones

I have some amazon giftcards from christmas left, is it worth buying a cheap DAC?

>>58439014
What are YOU doing?

>>58439872
Anyone?

>>58440513
Why the fuck would you base your purchasing decision on what other product they are developing. Unless the edition 6 needs orphan blood then you're a fuckwit.

>>58441168
Why would you willingly put money in Fang's pocket when their products are garbage and the only things being upgraded in their products are the prices?

>>58441217
400i is the best headphone in its budget or double its budget if you want neutral

>>58441293
If that's what you believe then good for you

>accidentally snapped my headphone jack off
>soldered on a 2$ replacement

It seems to work fine, but I have this unshakable feeling that they don't sound /quite/ as good as they did before.

Does the replacement jack actually matter or is my brain just a paranoid audiophile meme

Where do I go for good recs on a gaymen headset with 3.5mm?

>>58441613
you go to bed, because those only exist in your dreams

>>58441613
>Reddit
Seriously though, just get a nice pair of headphones and a seperate mic.
Fill out the format in the wiki and We'll answer.

>>58441721
It's not for my PC. I use an audio interface for that.

I have friends that are filthy console plebs that I like to talk to.

>>58441760
if they're plebs, they won't care about sound quality only appearance and brands

as such, just get your latest beats by mr nigger, R4Z3R or Skullfucky

>>58441760
HyperX Cloud Core

>>58441783
I'll look into them. Have you tried them.

>>58441779
None of us care about sound quality, appearance, or brands. I just want to be able to talk to my friends.

Is Brainwavz chink?

>>58441831
I personally haven't tried them. They're supposed to be the one headset that doesnt sound like trash since they're rebranded Taktar Pro80's. My friend has them and the mic sounds pretty good and isolate well.

>>58441936
Alrighty, thanks for the heads up.

>>58441969
No problem.

>>58434204
Do you still use the K702?
I've been thinking about getting a HD600 to see what the fuss is all about but I'm so happy about my K702 I don't know if it's worth spending money for a new headphone.

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>>58432347
The answer is easy. They are basically a meme at this point

>>58435338
I can understand your issue: I've also been looking for an upgrade over the K702 but lately I've come to stop thinking about measurements and audiophile stuff and I've been simply enjyoing my K702. Frankly the K702/K701 is really hard to beat.

Opinions on CB-1's?

>>58439872
>SRH1840
Fairly neutral open-backed headphone. It does have some bass rolloff. The headphone isn't too linear, which might be why it tends to get overlooked. Come to think of it, the SHP9500 might be better overall than this one.
>SRH1540
Bassy closed back with a fair amount of isolation. Somewhat of a pet peeve, but there are very few half-decent closed headphones that aren't compact and actually isolate. This happens to fit the role of a closed headphone for a less mobile use.
>HD600
Open backed, near neutral. Noticeably lower sensitivity than either Shure.
Has the common upper bass-low midrange boost around 150Hz or so. 4-5kHz may be overemphasized to taste, treble response tends to dip above that. Treble does not cutoff though, it's not actually rolled off. The low end does roll off.
Oh, and it clamps.

>>58442073

So im thinking of buying the m40x, i currently have a logitech g35 and i assume the difference will be big? Sorry for the noob question i assume you get it a lot

>>58441217
Again your reasoning is not even based on the he400i. What the fuck does it matter if their other products are shit. How fucking dense can you be you dumb cunt. Literally the only thing that should affect your decision is the product you are looking at. Drink bleach.

>>58442518
I think you need to settle down there, Fang.

>>58442750
Please figure out how to put together an argument that is neither autistic or racist that actually makes sense.

>>58442837
Aside from your autistic ranting and ad hominem, I'm not sure how autism and racism are involved?

Like it's cool and all if you have the 400i and like them but being offended when someone else doesn't is a problem you need to get help for.

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tell me why i shouldn't

>>58443141
Get back to the scat porn, boy

>>58443141
Why the fuck would you buy cables from Schiit? Dumbass.

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Serious question: Why is /g/ so obsessed with headphones and no one cares about speakers?
Is it because you live with parents and don't want to leak noise? I live alone and putting on a device every time I want to hear something is so cumbersome.

>>58443198
>Why is /g/ so obsessed with headphones
Speakers are considered rude in a shared office, Anon, so it's headphones for me.

>>58443224
You really bring headphones to casually listen at an office? Unless you work in audio that's pretty weird when you could just get IEMs.

>>58443251
How is it weird? 75% of the office is wearing headphones most of the time.

Also, I'm not a fan of eardildos, thanks.

Are there any (kind of) headphones I can wear while lying on my side? I mean with my ears against the pillow.

>>58443195
can you show me cheaper 15cm rca cables?
im waiting patiently.

>>58443198
People don't buy new speakers as often as they do headphones. With headphones, you also have to worry about things like comfort, isolation, build, and impedance. While you can simply get a set a speakers, toss in an amp//receiver, set them up once, and call it a day.

Speakers just don't need as much active discussion.

>>58443198

what speakers do you have? i been doing some research and i don´t know if im being autistic, but i haven´t found one under 200usd that i can use 2.0 and have lower than 50hz bass without throwing an sub woofer

>>58443463
lsr305 when they're on sale for $99ea

>>58443463
I have unbelievably shitty Dell speakers from 2004. I'm in the market for some real ones but I never see any threads.

>>58443332
The USB cable is probably a bit of a waste, it is a nice cable but I don't know if it justifies the cost. I recently bought a Schiit stack and figured the RCA cables were worth it since finding RCA cables that weren't super long was difficult.

>>58443510
>The USB cable is probably a bit of a waste
probably, but if this things sitting on my desk i don't want some disgusting amazonbasics 50c cable hanging out of the back of it.

>>58443470

dont want to sound like a bass head, but how is the bass? i have heard they are very neutral, but can i improve the lower frequencies by EQ? i dont really care for loudness since im going to be alone most of the time

>>58443482

Everybody has the lsr305 for their bang per buck

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I'm really happy with these. The only damn issue is that there's a 'pop' at the end of each track when I use bluetooth with my laptop.

Anyone experienced this before? How the hell do I get rid of it?

>>58443576
the bass is really good on them

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Worship me

>>58443535
Fair enough, at the end of the day, it is only 20 bucks. Not a big deal.

>>58438509
>how to describe audio in a more quantitative fashion
-Make sense of the frequency charts
-Learn a tiny bit about electronics analysis, even at a basic level
-Relate how it sounds to what can be defined and what can be measured, and other issues (non-linear distortion, measurement artifacts, etc.)

How should I say this...

The frequency response is taking the output of a device and examining properties relative to some frequency, namely the transfer gain (can be called headphone sensitivity in this case) and the phase.
The "frequency response" charts you might see are the output sensitivity of the headphone to a constant voltage, with the reference voltage used removed. If we use this headphone measurement as example-
>http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD1.pdf
We can fix 1 kHz to 90 dB SPL output from a 0.31 volt RMS input. For the same input voltage, the rest of the frequency range from 20Hz to 10kHz is within a few decibels of the 1 kHz sensitivity. This indicates a fairly neutral headphone as measured, at least by that compensation curve.

The amount of voltage required is obviously important, but this alone doesn't describe how it interacts with the electronics that supply voltage. We also use headphone's impedance for a more thorough idea. Impedance itself is the opposition of the component to current, or the ratio of the voltage to the current. Thus, our devices also need to be able to supply current AND voltage.
An amplifier or other device might list power instead of voltage associated with a load impedance. Power is:
>Re(Voltage*current)
A little work to convert power output into voltage, but doable. The lower the impedance, the more current is associated with the load for a given voltage. More current also makes for more power dissipation at the speaker and the amplifier, the exact value will vary by the electrical phase.


Not done, but do you follow for now?

You have $100 you are buying closed headphones what do you buy? You are limited to just one pair you can buy as many as you want as long the total is <$100

>>58444137
>You are NOT limited to

>>58444137

v6

>>58443141
Why the Modi "multibit"?

>>58444508
what a waste of money

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I am posting this here as it seems to be the closest thing we have to an audio general

I've watched multiple videos on what the best mic under $50 is, and it always comes down to the samson go mic

I need a stand to go with it though, and I don't want one that clamps onto the corner of my desk. How can I know if a stand like pic related will fit the mic shown in the pic - the mic isn't shaped like a normal mic usually is.

>>58443576
I can vouch for LSR305 despite paying an outrageous amount of Canadian shekels for them, don't regret my purchase.

>>58435773
Thanks anon

The lsr305 is 200usd and the hs8 is 300usd on my country, can someone help me decide between them?

>>58432367
I've got both the 400i and the Meze 99 and the Meze 99 work rather well for portable use. I've used them across a variety of electronic sources and they work amazingly well with all of them. They require jack shit to drive. Fucking 3DS could drive them and the built in amp sucks for that. They've a surprisingly large soundstage for closed back headphones.

>>58444766
lsr305 is better

>>58444816

Is it? I saw more people liking it better than the lsr308, isnt the lsr308 better than the lsr305?

>>58444927
lsr305 is the same thing, it just has a tad more bass extension because of the larger driver

>>58445034

Ok, i saw two comparison between the lsr305 vs the hs5 and between the lsr308 and the hs8, in the first one i liked the lsr305 more and on the second one, i found the hs8 a little more warmish, i liked it more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFwIyxSKjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riXAOTRdTNA

Is this test enough to evaluate the sound?

Is the driver size matter on a 4m x 4.5m room?

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>>58432347
What does /hpg/ think about Bragi?

>>58439014
E10k will easily push 250Ω Beyers. Stop equating impedance alone to anything. It means jack shit.

>>58441331
No, It won't affect sound quality unless its fundamentally flawed.

Cabling in general wont affect sound quality unless its poorly insulated, stupidly long, or just uses shit copper.

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>>58432347
so, /g/, can you run virtual surround form some sort of program to a dac/amp and it still work?
t. guy with a schiit fulla 2 and wants to game

>>58432615
>HD598's seem really appealing, but the one thing that worries me is all the comments that they're a little light on the bass.

Just got a pair, the bass is perfect. Idk what people are listening to when they say the bass isn't great.

Only thing I noticed was that because of the soundstage the sound isn't as tight as it could be but I don't really listen to techno or metal

They sound like they were made for stuff like New Wave, Funk, old school Hip-Hop, which is what I usually listen to so it's perfect. They're a lot better than my last pair (v6's).

The bass is really rich but not as tight and clean as it could be.

>>58443576
get a sub

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>>58443596
IT WAS FUCKING BROKEN
CURSE YOU YOU PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT AUDUZE
INSPECTED BY FUCKING DOGS

>>58446050
expecting anything less from pajeets

>>58435780
You're implying I would know how.

>>58446086
open them up and replace the driver or check it isn't just a loose wire?

WHOOOOOO BABY do I love headphones

>>58446094
Jesus, the driver is $55? Honestly rather buy new headphones at that point.

>>58446295
at least confirm the driver is borked first, you've got nothing to lose

>>58445287
only for sports

>Budget
Around $70, would go 100$ if really worth
>Location
Israel (us and eu are OK to order from)
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
Iem
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Enough to be comfortable for moderately long periods
>Sound signature
Neutral

>Help

>>58432347
>>58435338
Can anyone link me to the site with the $50 000 HDMI cable and pebbles n shiet

>>58436772
>>58436787
It's nicer to not have to deal with the hardware when it could be just inside your case

Currently own akg k240s

Looking to upgrade to either the DT 880s or 990s

Anything close to being lil neutral like these?

>>58447161

If you really want neutral, Soundmagic e80s is a good choice.

How reliable are Head-fi ratings?

What's a good amp for the dt 880 250 ohm

>>58447588
AKG K612 or K701/Q701/K702. They're both cheaper and more neutral than DT880 and DT990. DT990 is heavily V-shaped, whereas DT880 is mildly V-shaped.

Best sub $50 closed headphones in your opinion?

If you have a pair of headphones ~110 ohms and no amp, just a computer, what happens?

Not that much volume comes out of them?

>>58448122
Anything from SuperLux, i'd imagine. I can't exactly think of any other brand.

Fuck me, why are headphone amps so expensive? Do I really need to spend $50-$70 minimum just to make my headphones sound louder?

>>58448508
Unless you've got a rocking motherboard, yes.

>>58443141
Ditch the multibit.

>>58448465
They'll work. Sensitivity and thus the output volume you get can't be judged from the impedance and the volume depends equally from the headphone amplifier on the motherboard which aren't built alike. The higher the impedance, the easier load it is for the amplifier but higher impedance often tends to come with lower sensitivty so you might end up lacking volume.

>>58443141
Listen to >>58448607

Multibit is nature's way of saying, "I have too much money and spend it on foolish things."

>Budget
300 or less
>Location
US of A
>Source
Phone, computer
>Type of headphone
Over the ear
>Open or closed
closed, as closed as possible
>Comfort level
comfy, I'll be wearing it all day, and taking it with me everywhere
>Sound signature
Don't really have to much experience with nicer headphones to really say what my preference is
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD25-1 II
I would just get them again because they were perfect but it seems they have been discontinued for whatever ungodly reason and replaced with a budget model. Just looking for something sturdy, light, and good sound, with replaceable parts.

>>58448688
In this case it's a way to pay more for lesser performance in the same enclosure. Only thing it might have going for it is the more "standard" output volume from the RCA line outs compared to the standard Modi.

>>58442281
>The headphone isn't too linear
Are you referring to the distortion here? The FR and phase seem really nice but distortion is almost alarmingly high. Not that you can judge if it will sound any different but it's never a good thing.

>>58448806
I meant output voltage*, not volume.

So what are the /g/ approved in-ear headphones?

I want to do more walking, and would love to listen to some albums while I do.

Looking for dirt cheap headphones. My current options I'm thinking of are:

ATH T200, M20X, Superlux 681 EVO.

Which do you recommend, or is there something else you would?

>>58449103
M20X are the best headphones I've ever owned.

>>58436739

Apogee groove. I'm loving it. It retails for 295 USD but i was able to get it for 150 USD unopened.

>>58449126
Thanks for the input. Damn I should have gotten them when they were $20.

>>58447601
I mean, I listen to rock and quiet piano songs so I guess neutral is the best forme? I don't know what's good for this kind of music

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Could anyone recommend me some good headphones hangers? Mine keep falling of my desk.

>>58449224
You don't pick tonality by genre but yes, neutral is a safe(and imo always the best) option.

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My k712 came in. Got them over the HD650. They're a million times more comfortable to wear compared to a HD650 and I like them over the K702 I had.

>>58449353
How's the build quality? I'm interested in them but the headband's suspension thing looks filmsy as fuck, if it breaks then you can't even wear them.

>>58449385
It's like the other K7-- series. It's very robust. It's just wires and some bungees. Those clear plastic bits don't actually support anything. Just keeps the headband still. If that's what you're worried about. On my old k702 both cracked. But I wear headphones 8+ hours a day everyday almost. So if headphones are going to break from normal use they'll break with me.

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Currently own the He400i with an o2 oDAC and looking to pick up a more "fun" V shaped headphone. Currently looking at the Modhouse Argon and Fidelio x2.
>Last 12 months pic relater

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So

how you thinking about these ones?

>>58449126
Just ordered these for $25. Seems like a good price.

why is the dt 880 premium cheaper than the pro?

http://www.justmusic.de/de-de/recording/kopfhoerer-und-verstaerker/halboffene-kopfhoerer/9148499/dt-880-edition-250-ohm.html

http://www.justmusic.de/de-de/pa-licht/kopfhoerer/halboffene-kopfhoerer/211538/dt-880-pro-250-ohm.html
shouldn't it be the other way around?

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Just got into this hobby,
let me know how im doing lads.

>>58449976
mind explaining what is that rune bottom middle?

good amplifier, not my choice of headphone(s).

>>58450005
rune?

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So are the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro (3 drivers version) any good?
I'm thinking of getting these and a pair of Comply tips.
I'm worried about build quality, considering they're chink shit and my previous experience with IEMs hasn't been positive.

>>58444137
M40X + Pads

>>58448473
For a slight premium within $50 you can Grab either Samson SR850/950 at the cost of a non-detechable cable. Theyre the same as the Superlux 668B/669 with better comfort.

>>58449603
> X2
> V-shaped
That's a common misunderstanding. V-shape means that it enhances bass and treble. X2 enhances mid-bass, sub-bass is weak, mids are recessed and treble is weak as well. X2 is a dark headphone.
If you want a good V-shaped headphone, go with the DT880 600 Ohm. You already own a good amp, then you can drive it easily.

>Budget: Rs. 10000 or USD.100 (max $150)
>Location: India
>Source: My phone or Computer
>Type of headphone: I'm open to both in ear and around ear.
>Open or closed: doesn't matter
>Comfort level: It shouldn't come off while exercising
>Sound signature: should be able to handle bass well.
>Past headphones: Bose QC, and Audio Technica earphones.

Basically need good headphones / earphones for lifting and chilling. Wanted to buy sennheiser hd 600, but not sure I can use them while lifting

> Bluetooth headphones
> 300 eurobucks (Germany)
> Source is the iPhone 7 plus
> over ear would be great (though on ear is okay too - can somebody explain me the pros and cons?)
> I listen to all sorts of things. From metal to pop so it should be well balanced
> past headphones are my hyper x cloud lol (and apple EarPods)

Did some research and came across the sennheiser momentum wireless 2. So far when I tried sennheiser products they always felt pretty good. I've also looked up the Bose c35 but I've heard they're too weak on the bass. I'm no bass lunatic but I do sometimes enjoy a more punchier sound

I know wired would be a lot cheaper, but when walking my dog and wanting I shoot some pictures the wire is just an obstacle - so Bluetooth all the way!
Greetings

>>58450388
>hd600
>max 150$
uhh about that

have a look into jaybird bluebuds?

>>58450510
I figured I couldn't use them for lifting so I gave up on them, I don't mind getting them if I can use them while exercising

Curious. Do you guys have headphones you never took out of the box like a trophy?

>>58432367
>Vmoda M100

I'd go for the bit sparklier XS, Though tradeoff naturally is the bass.

If you were a faggot with more money than sense what headphones would you buy?

>>58450692
Orpheus II

>>58450692
orpheus 1

>>58450699
>>58450711

jesus christ I didn't think that I'd get something that ridiculous.

>>58450692
The right answer to the regular faggots who got no sense at all go for the Beats

If it were me, probably Orpheus'

>>58448122
Takstar Pro 80/Hyper X Cloud Core if you can find them cheap enough. Superlux 662 EVO comes in second.

>>58448508
You can get a DIY Classic 47 for less than $10 USD.

>>58449072
Fill out the form.

>>58449103
662 EVO. Both those AT are uncomfortable as all fuck without a pad change, and the 681 EVO is muddy. 662 is decently comfortable, and sound better than those other options. $28 on ebay.

>>58444110
>but do you follow for now?
yeah

>>58450821
I thought 681 and 662 are literally the same thing except one is open vs. closed.

>>58450841
No. They look somewhat similar, but their cup design is fairly different. 662 EVO Is neutral with a bit of a brightness to the highs, wheras the 681 EVO is decently muddy v-sape ish. Both are decent for less than $30, but the 662 EVO just shreds the 681 EVO in terms of clarity.

>>58449897
Pro just has different coloured forks and improved headband attachment system. Both are identical in terms of comfort and sound. I think one also has a coiled cable, but I cant remember which one. Just get whatever is cheaper.

>>58450841
no, 662 evo is nothing like 681 evo and not the same as 681 non-evo

DT770 VS DT770 PRO VS DT770 PREMIUM VS DT880 VS DT880 PRO VS DT880 PREMIUM VS DT990 VS DT990 PRO VS DT990 PREMIUM? PLEASE ADVISE

Reminder that DT770s break right after warranty ends. Sasuga, beyerdynamics.

>>58450899
Premium/Pro/Whatever doesnt affect sound.

Just sort it down to 770/880/990.

770 for closed V-shape
880 for open neutral with bright highs
990 for open heavy V-shape

>>58449295
Then how do you pick tonality? What's the things you take in to consideration other than personal taste?

>>58450999
What does premium/pro affect? Which ohm version to get?

>>58451025
Get a grado instead for great mids and clarity

>>58451025
PRO has those smooth leather. 32 ohm for mobile devices. 80 ohm for desktop no amp. Anything above is desktop with amp.

>>58451025
Aesthetics, cable, and headband attachment type.

32 is shit, don't bother unless you change pads
80 if youre using them off a phone/laptop/motherboard
250 if youre using a soundcard/external DAC
600 if you've got a decent external Amp.

Got drunk in new year's eve and lost my Koss PortaPros... RIP buddy

Now I gotta buy on-the-go headphones... not looking for reccomendations, just tell me what are your "outside" headphones and your experience with them

>>58451059
VE Monks or Porta Pros for skateboarding so I can hear surroundings
Senfer UEs or Modded M50x for public transport/general public use

>>58451059
Got brainwavz m1 when they first came out as alpha. My first experience with microphonics... never again.

>>58451042
Which one?
>>58451044
What smooth leather? I thought all the ones I listed have velour pads. What about premium?
>>58451055
Which one has the best cable and headband?

>>58432347
Hey friends, first time asking for recs

>$150-250
>US East
>Straight into 3.5mm, strictly for home PC (may look into standalone interface in future, not biggest concern atm)
>On or over-ear is fine, not picky
>Open to try either open or closed-back
>As comfy as possible for fairly average-sized ears
>Looking for clean bass and acceptable mid-range, highs are fair game
>Have had a few pairs of low-cost Sennheisers, some ~80 AKGs (closed back), currently using a pair of Sennheiser Momentums (on-ear)

Thanks in advance, hope this covers most of the info needed

>>58451285
DT 770 pro 80 ohm.

>>58450999
>880 for open neutral with bright highs
880 is balanced/slightly v shaped
definitely not neutral

>>58451086
i got the sr80, its on the ear though

>>58451400
Difference in neutral and balanced?

>>58451488
balanced is a slight bass & treble boost
for example, MSR7

>>58451517
>balanced is a slight bass & treble boost
The fuck are you on about. That is just a mild V-shape.

Balanced is just a dumb alternate for neutral.

>>58451542
>That is just a mild V-shape.
yes
but it has a name, and that's balanced

atleast, that used to be the case, maybe it's changed now but it definitely used to be called balanced

Reminder that DT1990 Pro are amazing and worth every cent.

So my Fiio X3 ii has 2 lowpass filter modes: steep and gradual
I've been reading around but this shit seems too complicated for me
Can I get a tl;dr about what each option does?

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>>58450999
> DT880
> neutral
> but it has enhanced highs!

Recommend me a good coiled cable for my headphones 1/8 on both ends, bonus points if they come with a 1/4 adapter

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Is there a significant difference between the Superlux HD668B and the HD681? There's only a small difference in price and they're on sale at gearbest, but it's enough to have me pay taxes on the 668 and those can be a bitch when you're a poorfag.

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So I bought the fulla 2 dac/amp

how do I go about hooking this up to my PC?

>>58452101
668b has headwings and a bit more bass

>>58450899
if you're considering DT990, massdrop has a drop right now for it, but it's the 600 ohm version so you'll need an amp
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-dt990-600-ohm-all-black-everything?1=1&utm_placement=0&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open&

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>>58452189
>$240 for 990's

>>58452233
Fucking retarded really, for that price they could at least include detachable cable.

>>58451017
Only personal taste if you think that's acceptable. I see no point in it because while some coloration could make certain music sound better, it will do the opposite to many others. You can't create some single large sweeping EQ profile to fix all audio content and frankly, it's not the point of the gear you have. You also can't generalize genres or even artists or albums to fit into that same fixed coloration. If a colored response does make a pleasant change in some song you are listening, then that's a problem with the specific song and not the headphones.

>>58452153
Do you really need to ask?

>>58452233
220*

>not only getting them at lowest price
lmao

they're also the premium, not the pro, which is like 50$ more expensive

>>58452291
i've never owned something like this before, hell last year was my first time getting nice headphones

>>58452307
Well you plug in USB and it works.

>>58452298
Don't forget plus shipping plus tip plus 3 month massdrop shipping time. Is there a sound difference between the premium and pro?

>>58452321
don't I have to plug in cables for the amp?

>>58452189
Yeah, doesn't seem worthwhile to risk having to cough up an extra 20€ or so in taxes just for some extra bass. Thanks for the info mate.

>>58452361
have a look at SR850 btw, they're a 668b but with normal headband, might be able to find it for the same price as 681 if you want a bit more bass

>>58452325
http://www.head-fi.org/t/513393/guide-sonic-differences-between-dt770-dt990-models-more

>- 250Ohm (PRO)

>The pro version follows the trend of the other two lines pro variants with a smaller soundstage, more bass, and more clamp. The treble seems smoother also because of the increased clamping force and aids the mids in coming forward. Bass seems to have gained impact but now there’s slightly more bass.
>Even more bass than the 600Ohm model, but not as controlled. The treble is smoother now from the added bass as it gets masked a tiny bit. The mids gain some body and the lower mids are more audible.

>>58452326
It gets its power from the USB. Internal DA-converter, headphone amplifier and preamp circuitry inside are USB powered. You can connect an external audio source to it if you so want but if your source is a computer and your device are headphones, just single USB in and that's it. It has an auxiliary USB power port if your computer can't output enough power.

>>58452407
that's radical, thanks my man

>>58452417
It's actually a very nice piece of gear, kind of a no brainer within its price point. It has a preamp, headphone amp and DAC built in. Headphone amplifier is powerful and with low noise and low output Z, preamp outputs come in both fixed line level and attenuated, you can use it to attenuate an analog stereo signal and you can use it standalone with nearly any mobile device charger or directly plugged into a PC.

>>58432365
If they used a better headband instead of that square thing, it wouldn't look so autistic

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How is the build quality on the TFZ Series 5S? Reviews on this thing have sold me on the sound so my only concern would be spending £60 for shit tier build quality

>>58432347
Is Brainwavz chink?

M20X seems to be on sale for $25. Is it worth? How's the soundstage on it?

>>58450692
HD600

>>58452536
Hong Kong

>>58451947
please respond

>>58450692
Stax SR 009

>>58450692
Sennheiser HE 1

>>58432347
need help

>Budget
anything similar to the price of a DT880 slightly higher is ok

>Location
south east asia

>Source
using on my PC I have a pair of Schiit modi magni
1

>Type of headphone
full size

>Open or closed
openback

>Comfort level
needs to be comfortable for hour or 2

>Sound signature
whatever is suitable for Classical Music

>Past headphones
DT880s


So basically I want a pair of headphones that are great for listening to Classical Music ranging from full scale symphonies to chamber music and even just solo instruments like piano, violin, etc. Also note that it kind of has to be comfortable enough to wear for as long most classical pieces last so like an hour or 2

How do I get a hold of MrSpeakers alpha pads in Europe?

Sorry for being retarded noob

How can i discover own headphone if i don't have any headphone experience?
I'm also gonna read gentoo wiki

>>58452708

K702

>>58452810
Acquire headphone experience.

>Budget
$200 or under (hard limit)
>Location
USA
>Source
Samsung Galaxy S3
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort Level
I'd prefer sound over comfort, but comfort matters a little.
>Sound signature
bassy or neutral
>Past headphones
skullcandy earbuds, they sound really bad

I'm looking at the Shure SE215-CL

any opinions?

>budget
$155

>Location
US

>Source
Dell XPS laptop/ Desktop

>Comfort Level
Maximum comfy


I'm mainly looking for comfy headphones to sit and watch lectures on my laptop and listen to comfy ambient OSTs to help studying. I was originally looking at ATH-M50x but I just wanted to get some input before i pull the trigger.

>>58452973
dt770 80 ohm

>>58453008
If I said my budget was $200 would that change anything? Thanks for the feedback tbw

>>58453035
no

>>58453098
What makes the better than the M50x? Do they have a 3.5mm also?

>>58448607
>>58448688
can you guys explain further?
Why should i avoid the multibit?
>In this case it's a way to pay more for lesser performance in the same enclosure
please elaborate. this sounds like poor mans bro science. On paper the multibit is clearly better.

I actually need more than one digital input, hence why i was going to pay extra for the multibit, and i want a DAC i can continue using as my set-up evolves.

>>58452613
NVX and Lindy too?

>>58452973
Do you mind having open headphones? You could look into ath900x's, dt 770's, m40x's, and 598's

>>58453172
I have never actually had closed-back headphones and they seem pretty exciting. What makes you things you listed better than the M50x's? Thanks for helping m8. Also, I study a lot in my school's math lab and library so it would be great if the headphones had 3.5mm jack.

>>58453139
they're not terrible

What are some good replacement pads for m40x?

>>58453216
I've heard the m50x's are very uncomfortable and don't sound good. The 770's and 598's are usually said to sound good depending on your taste and be very comfortable.

>>58453223
what about Sennheiser HD 280?

>>58452882
plz dont forget about me

>>58453253
>>58453223
I think I'm going to go with 770s. Thanks to both of you.

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>>58453139
dt770 are comfortable
m50x is the opposite of comfortable unless you have a fucking weird egg shaped head and don't produce any body heat or and don't have sweat glands anywhere on the side of your head.

the dt770s wont break.
the m50x will break.

i own both btw.

>>58453374
please buy some replacement pads

>>58453406
they aren't dirty. It's Velour.
it's just the way it looks in the light when the fabric is disturbed.

just got the m40x and my beats solo hd sound way better

>>58453406
>>58453535
speaking of velour replacement pads

how do you guys clean yours? I live in the tropics which makes me sweat a shit ton.

only problem is the smell but I am afraid to wash it since it might get damaged in the process.

>>58453250
Anyone? They're pretty uncomfortable

>>58453650
Something by brainwavs, I don't know which is the best for m40's

>>58452541
Shit, like all the M series headphones.

>>58452882

Etymotic Hf5

>>58452973

Dt 880 250ohms

>>58453250
Brainwavz HM5 Pleathers, or hybrid if you sweat a lot.

>>58453535
>they aren't dirty
nigger there's dark brown stains on there

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>Headphones delivered by UPS given to USPS
>Mailman came, but tfw no package
>Mfw have to wait until tomorrow

>>58453822
it's velour you retard
it's like suede, it changes shade when it's depressed/flattened.

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>>58454013
>It's natural dude
>it's just because it gets depressed and flattened

You're so fucking filthy I wouldn't be surprised there's cockroaches living in your PC

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>massdrop finally has JBL305s on sale
>$260 shipped for a pair

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>>58454055
yeah you're right.
it's shit stains.
sometimes my fingers get dirty during my savage arse dildoing sessions.
thanks for outing me infront of everyone like this.
how embarrassing.

>>58450833
It's the analog reconstruction filter. The purpose is to attenuate the repeating aliases not in the range of interest.
>steep vs. gradual
Slope of the attenuation filter. Steeper filters will reject aliasing more strongly. Normally, you stick to steep filters.

>>58448806
THD, noise, compression, and such fall under non-linear distortion.

>>58454246
you were already outed by your mother
you didn't think she wouldn't notice when she brought you those tendies, did you?

no but seriously that shit is disgusting, get some new pads, they're not that expensive

>>58454306
>get some new pads, they're not that expensive
the 990s are like 2 days old in that picture

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>>58454353
how do you manage that
I assumed they were like 8 years old

>>58454407
>how do you manage that

vigorous music listening

NVX XPT 100; ATH M40x; AKG 240 MKII

all three around $80 which one is the best overall

>>58454574
check op for purchasing advice

>>58454574
m40x

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>>58454574
M40x if you get HM5 pads
XPT-100 don't need replacement pads, but dont fold and arent built quite as well.

>>58452708
K701/Q701/K702

>>58453141
Audio DACs these days would trend to multi-bit delta-sigma. The Schiit designs are a segmented thermometer/R-2R DAC normally geared to high speed applications.
>On paper the multibit is clearly better.
How do you figure that?What advantages do you consider these to have?

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>>58453724
anyone have experience with these?

>>58455524
Right here, but I'm a dumbfuck when it comes to technical details. These things seal incredibly well, they're basically earplugs that play music. Expect them to hurt a bit at first as your ears get used to them. It also helps to have waxy ears for easier insertion. They're like the dragon dildos of IEMs.

>>58450387
>mids are recessed and treble is weak as well. X2 is a dark headphone.
is this true

>>58456077
To an extent. Mid are recessed, but highs are quite peaky. You get a massive peak, and the rest is quite relaxed.

>>58456077
Mids aren't "recessed", they're average. Bass is deep and treble is a little bit elevated but there aren't any audible spikes or whatever. I wouldn't call them V shaped in a full sense.