/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>>58424464
r8 new 128Gb build.

>>58423910

using a usb flash drive.

>>58424592
LotsofRam/10

I just ordered a Noctua NF-F12 PWM Cooling Fan for my Water AIO Cooler for $20.

Did I do good?

I've got GPU, Mobo (z170) and DDR4 RAM already bought. I have been waiting for nearly 2 months for CPU prices to go down, however, they don't seem to.

Recently the 7700k has appeared in Spain's online stores. They're charging 400€ for it. 340€ for the 6700k.

What should I do? Wait until the 7700k goes down a bit more and get that one? Or just out-right get the 6700k already even though it's a bit overpriced? I've seen it at 310-329 before.

I'm coming from a 3-year old 3570k build w/ 970 that I will of course sell once I get everything.

>>58424791
in 2 years the prices on the 7700k will go down a bit.

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8th for linustechtips

>>58424869
I know you're trying to mock me and I understand not buying a piece for a mere 20€ difference is retarded, but my point is:

Is the 7700k really worth it? I've taken a look at reviews and some people say the 6700k is still better, once you OC them at the same frequencies.

>>58424932
7700k is marginally better but the difference is very minor because they both overclock to same clock speeds and are based on same architecture. Just go for the cheaper one out of those two.

>>58424791
>They're charging 400€ for it. 340€ for the 6700k.
Fucking hell, get the 6700K, the 60€ premium is WAY too much for what the 7700K offers over the 6700K.

>>58424791
I'm this anon.

I'm running an old H100i on my i5-3570k, OC'd at 4.4ghz. Been like that ever since I got it, that's nearly 3 and a half years.

Will the H100i fit the mounting point on a z170 mobo? I've read it should.

Otherwise, if I had to get a new cooler to OC the i7, which is what I'm planning to do, what's the flavour of the month cooler right now?

So I have a couple questions about my upcoming build for this summer. Part list so far, going for a black and white theme:
>Thermaltake Core P5 case
>Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming 5 mobo
>High end Ryzen CPU
>High end Vega 10 GPU in white/black/both
>16GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 ram
>Western Digital Black 5TB HDD
>120GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD from my current rig
>Corsair RMx PSU
So, now my questions:
Would it be worth getting the 4x4 instead of the 2x8 Dominators?
If I want to slap a second GPU in there at some point, will an 850W RMx be enough or should I spring for the 1000W? I Plan on overclocking as much as possible which leads me to-
I want to do liquid cooling in this build. I have not done liquid cooling before. What is the best kit (keeping the white and black theme in mind) I should get for this build? I want hard tubing, a triple radiator, reservoir and pump, the whole shebang. The coolant is going to be white. Also, how much of a pain in the ass would it be to add in a second GPU down the line if going with liquid cooling? Is draining the coolant to add more tubing, and a crossfire bridge, to the loop a bitch or is it relatively simple?
Last small thing. where would I find custom cables for the modular PSU I'm picking up? I want to get cables that are black and white patterned.

>>58424932
im not mocking. just letting you know the prices for both likely wont go down for a while. i even went to check pcpartpicker's prices before posting. using the i7 6700k as a reference.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tdmxFT/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k?history_days=730

i recently bought the i5 7600k over the i5 6600k, because if im upgrading and dont plan to get another CPU for a while i might as well get the Best one in that price range.

Tho i will say this, you might run into the same problem im dealing with. the Z170 board wont work with the Kabylake cpu. you will need a skylake cpu to update the Bios so it will work with kabylake.

tho i dont know anything about what you are upgrading from (ivy bridge),

>>58424592
X99 strix boards a shit

I bought some G.Skill ram rated for 2400mhz. When I enabled XMP in my bios, it automatically set it to 2666mhz. Is that bad? Could I damage the memory going past it's rated speed?

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Posting my first build I did last year so you all can learn from my mistakes.
>Don't buy a product because it "should be good in the near future"
>Don't buy a product based on brand name + price = quality? (bonus points if you can point the component I'm reffering to)
>Don't buy overkill cooling solutions
>Don't buy a large case unless you are 200% sure you actually have the desk space for it
>Don't buy a mid-low-end gpu when you actually have more cash at your disposal.

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>>58425106
>>High end Ryzen CPU
>>High end Vega 10 GPU in white/black/both

>>58425226
thanks for the quality feedback friendo :^)

Is there a horizontal (pizza box style) mATX case with a seperate PSU and hard drive compartment (like the case basement meme)? Preferably with filtered intakes, and top rear (which would be side rear on a vertical case) exhausts?

>>58425106
Split the 5TB hard drives into multiple smaller drives so you don't have your shit fucked when the 5TB drive inevitably fails

>>58425106
>(((((GAMING))))) mobo
>(((((DOMINATOR™))))) RAM
>only 120GB SSD
>current ((((rig)))
>>>/v/

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>>58425106
Crossfire doesn't use a bridge. Dominators are already pissing away money for no good reason so just get whatever kit you like more aesthetically. AM4 will not support quad channel though like x99.
Changing realistically anything in a watercooling loop is a massive pain in the dick. If you really want multi-gpu just get them both right off the bat. If you can't afford it then maybe you shouldn't be going for such a high-end setup in the first place.
AMD graphics cards tend to eat up more power than nvidia ones, but each generation is getting more efficient from both brands. There are no specs out for vega, so take that for what you will.
I threw together a "worst case scenario" for current hardware on an 850w psu and it only came out to 624w Even adding an additional 30% to account for random power spikes AND your overclock (being extremely liberal with estimates here) Its still enough for the psu to handle. If vega high end uses more power than a gtx 1080, maybe get the thousand watt unit.

>>58425547
well no shit its for video games you fucking idiot i like to enjoy my free time. thanks for answering no questions

>>58425568
cool thanks for the info man

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>>58424592
>just one GTX 1080

>>58425634
>t. xXxTh3_G4M3R_1337xXx

>>58424592
>pcie sound card and not a DAC
>1200w psu for a system that probably draws 510w maxium when overclocked
> 64gb ram (idk maybe you actually have a use for it).
Ignore previous greentext if you are a video editor or something and your ram useage actually spikes over 30gb
>massive case with normal sized hardware that would normally fit in a mid-tower.
If you're just using this for gaming, it's pretty shit all around. If you're a content creator of some sort, some of the choices are slightly more justified, but you could have done a bit more research / shopping.

>>58425634
Stop replying to trolls. It's fucking 2017. You should have learned this by now.

>>58425106
>High end Ryzen CPU
>High end Vega 10 GPU in white/black/both
No, just no anon

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Sapphire rx 480 4gb or XFX rx 480 GTR 8gb or XFX rs rx 480 4gb?

for e-sportsy games ( overwatch, phantasy star online 2) and PS2 emulation?

I'm running dual 1440p monitors on an r9 270x and windows ui stutters and lags with just a bunch of youtube videos, game fps drops maybe to 40ish.

>>58426005
actually 8x16 ddr4 3200

No gaymes, just adobe creative cloud and ml.

And sound card was for 24/192 adc (input). Other parts not pictured are bluray writer, 3.0 card reader, two 10tb 7200 rpm drives and LSI hardware raid pcie x4 card.

>>58426281
The sapphire nitro card runs kinda hot and loud. Personally I've got the msi gaming x 480. 63-65c in overwatch. Ps2 emulation will be almost entirely on your cpu.

>>58426281
>GTR
>RS
Where are Porsche's lawyers when they need them?

>>58426281
go for the GTR, coolest running Rx480, and the 3+2 warranty XFX is offering is pretty neat,

>Today is the day I shall cable manage
>An hour later finished rerunning all the cables
>Literally no better than it was before
Cable managing without a modular PSU is basically impossible (at least in my case)

>>58426569
>not wrapping the longest USB 2.0 cables in a helix around the other non-ATX power cables
Wrapping your longest cables like that will shorten their length AND keep your wires in check. Just don't tug on them too hard.

>>58426617
No, the main issue is I have a rather small midtower (Antec 300) with no cable management holes.

The issue with that is my ATX 24 pin power, SATA power tree, SATA cables, and PCIe 6 pin power for my two graphics cards are all competing for the same space and nothing can be routed behind the backplate

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nice video game consoles

>>58426755
I know, and my tip is still valid. You want those cables taking up as little space as possible, so the only way forward is to bundle them up together efficiently. The thickest cable (motherboard and CPU/8-pin PCIe cables) are straightened and wrapped together to form the "backbone" of the cable group and the thinner USB 2.0, front headers, HD Audio, and other power cables are wrapped around them or bundled together separately and put between the ATX cables and the case's backplate. The USB 3.0 and SATA ribbon cables are folded flat into neat S-shaped beneath all those cables to shorten their length and minimize their clutter.

>>58426490
I had that card for a day (thought my second 270x had died and got the 480 to replace it)
and it seemed to perform decently, back then I only had a single 1080p monitor though, damn shame I can't compare it before to my current set up

Newegg has the sapphire 4gb for $210, I could have amazon price match it, and fill out the form and get it for <$200 after tax though, very compelling.

>>58426526
GTR does sound like the card to get although be it expensive.

>>58424592
Pretty good considering that you didn't build it yet

>>58426794
This guy.

>>58426863
how do you have a graphics card for a day? I'm surprised they took it back.

>>58427305
Amazon is just really good. I was surprised too. Of course restock fee was like $9, but that's still nothing.

Motivate me to finish building the PC I've had laying around since September, haven't touched since November, and cost 550 burgers

>>58426794
Thanks. tho im disappointed that leaving the whole Sony vs Xbox has me entering another dick waving contest, Nvidia vs AMD. It Megahertz my feelings.

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I can't decide between these two for my next build...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xCgrwV

any help?

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H170-PRO-GAMING/
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/B150-PRO-GAMING-AURA/

>>58428148
+ a GTX 1070

>>58428148
You don't need a liquid cooler for a 6500.

You can't overclock that processor anyway.

And you can google win 10 OEM keys on Kinguin for 30 bucks.

>>58428148
>buying a GAYMING B150 board
The very least you could have done was ought one of those overclockable C236 motherboards and a Xeon E3-1230 v5

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>>58428148
>(((GAMING))) (((AURA))) mobo
>AIO for a 6500
>120GB SSD
>$93 for 2133 RAM
>buying wangblows 10

How do you install the drivers for your stuff?
Should you use the CDs it comes with or get them online?
I don't have an optical dive so idk what else I could do. Copy them to a USB maybe?

>>58428148
Get cheaper memory.
Get a bigger and better SSD.
Get a cheaper HDD.
Get a cheaper PSU.
Don't buy W10.

>>58426235
Why?

It's not like it is your money. If he wants to buy it, let him.

>>58429056
Because waiting for an unreleased product(s) and hinging a major financial investment upon it is a foolish mistake that no one in their right mind should ever do.

>>58425135
Thats the profile on the ram. Its fine.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FvtLbj
About to pull the trigger for my gayming PC

>>58429013
I'm not the guy, but is win7 fine?

>>58429074
Who cares? Only autists. I say good on him for wanting new shit.

>>58429099
If you prefer W7 then go for it. DazLoader has made it piss easy to pirate.
If you want 10 just dl the ISO and use it without activating it. All that happens is a watermark in the bottom left and you can't personalise your background and stuff. It's all fully functional.

>>58429115
well that sounds pretty good

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>tfw not enough money to buy mobo+cpu+gpu+ram

$30 short ;_; Should I give up the gpu and wait for muh mony or give up the mobo and wait for the 200 series to get cheaper?

>>58429082
If you are going to OC. Id go with a DH15. The 212 will be ok for keeping a stock 7700 cool.

>>58424464
I tried asking this in the last thread but got no replies
I finished my build and turned it on, it ran for a few seconds and then turned off, before turning on again. I tried working backwards, but even with the motherboard out of the case and with literally nothing connected to it apart from the psu, it did the same thing. Is this a psu problem or a motherboard problem? How do I fix it?

>>58429139
I had the same one time and it turned out that my retarded ass had managed to bend some pins in the cpu socket.

Just an idea.

>>58429082
>Kelvin Lake
>212 EVO
Enjoy your thermal throttling and housefire.

>>58429168
But I went with the 1060, not the RX 480

>>58429168
Do you have firsthand experience?

Mine ran stable 4.8ghz with a 212 at 66c. Im sure witha dh15, 5ghz on air is possible.

>>58429168
Enjoy your memes.

>>58429158
It was still happening even with the cpu removed.

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r8 my build? I have about half the parts

>>58429168
it's not like he's trying to cool an FX anon

>>58429227
You will need cpu and ram for it to POST

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Case and motherboard aren't available yet, but should be in February.

Streacom F1CWS Evo
ASRock Z270 Gaming ITX/ac
Intel Core i5-6400
Noctua NH-L9i Low Profile CPU Cooler
HyperX Impact 32GB (16x2)

Total: 700€

Already own:
700Gb 2.5" HDD
128Gb M.2 SSD
Monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers

This is for an all-purpose (except gayming of course) home PC that's supposed to be portable but I'm having my doubts. Should I build it like this or wait for the new AM4 ITX motherboards to come out and use a Rysen CPU to take advantage of them sweet integrated graphics? It would be nice to play some FIFA at a native resolution even if on minimum settings. The downside is giving up the Thunderbolt 3 port on the ASRock Z270 ITX which is something I use a lot but could definitely live without.
Opinions?

>>58424592
Way overkill with the psu, but it's a good series. Fans on the cpu cooler are going to run a bit loud.
>6900k
Why?
>2TB SSD
Why?
Not necessarily bad but it might be overkill based on what you're going to use it for?

help me build a htpc and seeding/torrenting machine pls. I have no idea how to make one.

>>58428991
I used a 4gb usb flash drive to install some motherboard drivers before installing the OS to help recognize USB 3.0 but updating your BIOS might help that, like Asus using EZ Flash.

>>58429474
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16856102141
Now fuck off cunt

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quick request for any pc building expert passing by. I'm trying to build a pc (my very first one).

My goals would be for it to last a while (over 2 years if possible) without going over ~1500$ (canadian).
I want it to be able to run the Witcher 3 at medium-high settings without struggling. (I think that's the highest demanding game I'll ever run on it.)
If you can fit a monitor and a not-crappy mouse and keyboard in the budget I'd be really happy.

I'm not sure if asking for this is too much for the cost of 1500$. if it's really impossible to fit the budget then feel free to inform me of the price I would be looking at.

>>58429474
>>58429504
more like
https://store.google.com/product/chromecast_ultra

now fuck off cunt

>>58429133
hold off on the gpu and get a b250 mobo, you can get the twin fan version of the 1050ti for the same $140

I turned on a rig with only the motherboard and the processor installed and with the fans and case cables plugged in

no ram
no hdd
no optical drives and such

Shouldn't you at least be able to boot up the bios? I couldn't manage to get anything out of it, though i didn't expect it to work.

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I want to upgrade my 920 i7. Mainly for games and some graphic work.
I have a decent graphics card and ssd. Need a few pointers on what to look for to keep a budget of $600 USD.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tmsVLD

>>58429538
it needs at least 1 stick of ram in the first slot to post.

>>58427017
Got it up and running last friday night. Booted on first go. Haven't started overclocking anything yet. This mobo has two switches to enable cpu voltage bump and ram oc.

>>58429446
>why 6900k
My SO did not want the 4 core meme 6700k. "too fucking slow."

>why 2tb
Dual boot for adobe cc and ml under linsux

>beefy ps
More drives and another gtx 1080 will eat additional power in the months ahead.

>>58429637
Any size will do?

weird question. how easy is it to switch out cpu coolers? I accidentally ordered one of lower quality than i needed so I had to order another, but while the worse one has arrived USPS has taken the one i'd rather be using hostage. since I predict it will take them a few days in this weather i figure I might as well build my pc now and switch out the cooler later

>>58429133
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R74byf
the rx 470 is much better and has 10usd rebate.

>>58429745
depends on the cooler.
212 is hard as fuck.
cryorig h7 is a breeze

>>58429820
hah cool. the h7 is the one I have. getting a corsair liquid cooler in the mail though so i wont end up needing it.

>>58429263
>>58429263
Anyone?

>>58429263
it's fine. you're paying too much for the psu imo

Waited 2 weeks for all the parts to come in and now they're all here, right in front of me. First build. Literally shaking lads.

>>58429928
I ended up paying 125 canadian loonies for the PSU, which hasn't fluctuated at all

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ld7ddC
I already have the CPU and motherboard and I'm on a budget, could anyone help me fill this out? I just want to play games on 1080p and maybe some easy to run games at 144hz

>>58430020
One step at a time m8. No rush.

Get the case on its side. Put in mb port shield. Slide in mb. Screw in mb... Not too tight. Look how far you've progressed!

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>>58429523
I know about the two-fan version but I just don't like it, 2big 4me.
Also, you're probably right, I'm better off holding on the GPU since I can still use da integrated graphics.

>>58429800
Thanks for the advice but I can barely afford my budget build, RX 470 is like $70 above my budget and the gain is pretty insignificant. I was gonna get the vanilla 1050, but 2GB + higher clock for $30 more seems like a really good idea.

>>58429653
yes, as long as it is compatable with the motherboard.

How is this looking guys? Old i3-2100 and 6850 that has been in the closet. Seems to run pretty good but I want to switch the ram to a faster 2 channel 16gb kit now that I found the 390 so cheap. I was planning a newer 4gb card but. I will give this build the psu from my main when I upgrade that.

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>>58430321
fuck my

>building PC
>decent budget, manage to save a quick buck by taking the keyboard from my parents' 13yr old dell desktop

So, the "Logitech 240 Deluxe" as its called
What could the consequences be for plugging this dinosaur into my beautiful virgin machine? I'm wondering mostly because of the spectacular levels of filth encrusting this thing (It's literally just sat on a desk in the laundry room, uncovered, for its entire life. Never been cleaned to my knowledge) I'm talking dust that has stopped being dust and graduated to crust.

I would honestly consider spending money on a new keyboard just to not have to clean this fucking travesty, unless it turns out that the Logitech 240 Deluxe™ is some kind of legendary super keyboard.

>>58429481
I don't think I've thought this through that far.
So when I assemble the PC, what will I need to do? Like what do I need to install/update?

>>58430187
the pentium in your build and the mobo are too much, If you don't have a lot of cash just get the cheapest you can get, the pentium g4400 is a great cpu for gayman and daily use.
you should get the cheapest h110 mobo you can get and the cheapest ram.
later you can upgrade to a i5 6500 if you have money.
the rx 460 is only like 100usd, I'd get that over the normal gtx 1050.

>>58430433
>assemble pc parts
>check it boots correctly, cum in cpu if it works
>install winblows from a usb/dvd
>configure windows
>install drivers that came with your pc parts.
>update to latest drivers.
or you could just download the latest drivers from another pc beforehand.

Are any of the new AMD stuff going to be ~$300?
And will they cause existing gpu / cpus to drop in price?

>>58430472
Could I transfer the drivers to a USB and install them that way? I don't have an optical drive.
Also, will the motherboard need updating/installing? Or will it go straight to booting BIOS and then installing OS?

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>>58430434
It's precisely because I don't have much money that I want to get something that will set me for a long time desu. The motherboard I chose because I found it for $59 refurbished on Amazon, it's a great deal.
The GTX 1050 costs literally less than an RX 460 from amazon and performs much better again, $30 more would get me even better deal and save me investing on another GPU later.
The G4400 would be too much of a bottleneck for the RX 470/1050. Hell, the G4400 would even bottleneck the RX 460. The G4560 is just slightly above the 1050 performance wise and for just $15 more.

>>58430506
no, don't worry about any of that
just install windows and you're set, it's 2017 and windows will automatically detect and install your drivers from the internet

>>58430798
Will the motherboard not need any drivers prior to installing windows or anything?

>>58430506
>Could I transfer the drivers to a USB and install them that way? I don't have an optical drive.
yes, no prblem

>Also, will the motherboard need updating/installing?
no need to update/install motherboard.
it works out of the box. you can update later thrhough a usb.

>Or will it go straight to booting BIOS and then installing OS?
when you boot up, press del or f1 (depends on motherboard tho, del always works IIRC), go into bios and boot from usb.

>>58430692
>The G4400 would be too much of a bottleneck for the RX 470/1050.
not really, look it up.

>>58430692
How much is your budget.

You really should go with the cheapest cpu/mobo and try to get the best gpu you can.

>>58431481
yes really, look for yourself

g4400
https://youtu.be/7JbNxEAz0bY

g4560
https://youtu.be/wkhTnpGsbKA

>>58431529
circa $450
I am trying but I also don't mind waiting on some of the components if it means I get a better deal

Can someone recommend me a good 600W or 650W gold modular PSU that is actually silent? I've been using a Seasonic X650 that's supposedly silent, but the coil whine is annoying as fuck.

I already replaced it once, but this replacement unit also has coil whine. This country has shit return/refund/replacement policy, so don't bother.

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>>58431567
this comparison is not even worth it.
2 different systems, and in the first one the game was in beta.
the increase in performance is probably due to better optimization after release or drivers.

see pic related, the fury x is much more faster than than the rx 480/ gtx 1060, gpu is always more important. going for a better gpu will always give you more fps than getting a better cpu, specially if you have a very limited budget.

>>58431628
bequiet

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>>58431644
and another one with a weaker gpu.
what matters for most games is the gpu. if you need to compromise on other parts of your build by all means do it.

>>58431644
same machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoRdzOYPiGs

stop arguing anon, the G4400 does bottleneck, it doesn't have HT, the G4560 does and the price diff is $10

>>58431582
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qTDnNN
$438

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>>58431795
well, I am going for the cheaper mobo desu. I won't really be expanding it much for a long time so it should suffice. Will keep the G4560 though, thanks for your advice. The ram is just a matter of waiting for amazon to have some cheap used/refurbished stuff again.

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Which i5 should I get for gaming since apparently an i7 isn't needed unless I plan on streaming these games at max settings as well (or so I'm told.)

I just wanna play and enjoy my max settings for the most part.

>>58432293
6600k/7600k

>>58432313
Which of those is superior?
I heard Kabylake is a bad meme.

>>58432340
Should be kabylake, but they're both LITERALLY THE SAME GODDAMN THING.

Just wait for intel to cut prices on shit when AMD drops.

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>>58432355
Alrighty. I just bought into a Skylake Mobo for the first time the other day along with some ram and couldn't wait to put it together so I slapped a G4400 in it for $50 just as an excuse to put it together and get it out of the way. Gonna pick up a i5 7600K in the next week or so.

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>>58430020
Almost 2 hours into my build and I want to fucking die this is so stressful
>dropped CPU by accident
>cut finger on I/O shield
>had to make 5 attempts to fit mobo into the case and worried I scratched the back of it
>still have to do all the wiring and cable management
>worried I've already fucked something up severely

>>58432293
If you're not interested in overclocking then 6500/7500 is good enough. No point to pay extra for k-branded processors if you're not going to overclock them.

>>58432406
I know that feel, bro.

>>58432471
>>58432471
>If you're not interested in overclocking then 6500/7500 is good enough

Aren't the K branded ones better stock?

>>58432406
>cut finger on I/O shield
haha a classic. fuck I/O shields. I cut my finger as well the first time I built a pc.

>>58432476
getting an unlocked cpu and not overclocling is retarded.
all the i5's are same, only difference they are just a bit faster at stock speeds, almost nothing.
k processors are meant to be overclocked, if you get one and don't oc, you are just wasting money.

>>58432476
Yes, but the difference is fairly small and they have much worse price-per-performance ratio. Gaming doesn't even stress CPUs that heavily, both will last for years and you won't get much higher lifetime out of 7600k compared to 7500.

do I need thermal paste? can i make it out of household products?

Should I invest in a 4K monitor?

>>58432547
you can use mayonnaise or toothpaste. but it's not going to last.
get some arctic mx-4

>>58432561
For gaming? Nah, you'll need top-tier hardware for it and even then you'll have to drop settings down from ultra to get 60fps.

But it might be worth it for media consumption or similar stuff. You'll just have to downscale games to 1440p or 1080p to get a decent framerate.

>>58432565
will that harm the cpu? ordering paste right now but can i use that safely in the meantime?

>>58432561
no 4k, is a meme still.

>>58432595
it works but only for some minutes IIRC, so no, wait for the paste.

>>58432595
Nope. Just actively monitor temperatures and clean it throughly once you're done. It'll work fine for a week or two.

>>58432595
I wish you weren't stupid.
Mayo is organic, what happens to organic shit when it's heated up to 100 something degrees Fahrenheit?

And toothpaste?

Come the fuck on, you have google, bing, the fucking internet man.

Shit...

Is this okay?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nw3m7h

>>58432682
it works tho. look it up.

>>58432695
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nw3m7h
looks fine

>>58432695
Case is gaymer as hell but if that's what you want then go for it.

>>58432892

Honestly just picked it for the handlebars for lans. Any other better ones with grip?

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My wrist hurts. I heard these were good at fixing that. Any suggestions?

>>58432924
Handlebars are quite rare and the tend to come with gamer aestetics so you don't really have that many options. You should check Mastercase 5 pro from Coolermaster though, it's not as gaudy as that one.

>>58432695

I like it.

>>58433021

Cool I like that one you suggested. Thanks.

My video card has one 8-pin slot for power. Do I plug in all of the 6+2 PCI-E cable to power it? I'm reading online you're supposed to leave off the extra 2 and I'm a bit confused.

>>58433199
Yes you plug in the 6+2.

>>58433199
Some graphics cards have 6-pin and others have 8-pin slots. The 6+2-pin cable fits in both: leave the extra two for 6-pin cards and insert them for 8-pin.

>>58433213
>>58433223
Got it, that was the last step. Thanks lads

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/pcbg/ I need your advice.
I want cheap and reliable z170 motherboard for non-K i5 (6500 most likely) overclocking.
What should I buy?

>>58433269
How cheap we talking? Under that price?

What is the consensus for the RX 480 six months later? y/n?

>>58433303
Worth it.
Can play pretty much everything maxed out or on high at 60+ FPS if paired with an i5.

>>58433269
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-LGA1151-Intel-Motherboards-GA-Z170X-UD3/dp/B012N6ESTC

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>>58424592
Are you me?

>>58433303
Excelent for the price point, works well for 1080p gaming as long as you have reasonable expectations. Seems like a long-lasting card too due to DX12 support and no nvidia gimng but that remains to be seen.

>>58433293
150 usd is my absolute limit.

>>58424464
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-SP120-Performance-single-controller/dp/B01LHYI374/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484173311&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=sp120+rgb+twin

These any good?

they come in corsair glass cases

>just finished build
>won't boot
>full panic mode
>plug mouse and keyboard in
>it works
How did I never read anywhere that you needed kb+m plugged in before attempting to boot?

>>58433314
>https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-LGA1151-Intel-Motherboards-GA-Z170X-UD3/dp/B012N6ESTC
Design looks nice, but I heard Gigabyte mainboards are not the best solution for non-K skylake.
Well, thanks anyway.

>>58426794
yeah SFF is really nice

Explain modern DDR4 to me.
Do timing really don't matter at 3200-4000?
Do I have to watch out for timing choosing RAM? How much is acceptable at 3ghz?
How much in percentages do I lose with lower timing?
Last time I bought RAM in 2010 it was simple, just look that CLs are 9-9-9-9 and it's 1300mghz, now it's too many underwater stones all of a sudden with DDR4.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d9fVLD
r8

>>58433569
jesus anon, don't buy into the ram jew, you're just making it more expensive ;_;

It's a really solid build desu

Trying to pick a monitor but not sure which one. Here are the monitors I'm looking at:
https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG348Q/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236660
http://www.benq.us/product/monitor/xl2730z
http://www.benq.us/product/monitor/xr3501

Here's my build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

I'm looking to build it once and not have to take it apart for a long time. It's mainly for gaming, and video editing.

>>58433613
FUCK I always fuck up my list, god damnit I'm a fucking retard.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FytpVY

>>58433600
I study filming atm so do need it for editing. But I agree wilm only get 16gb at first and upgrade later.

Is now a good time to pick up a new GPU?

If so, which?

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Sliced my thumb while installing the SSD in my build, squirted blood on my mobo and CPU which I think are not gonna work anymore

Just going to buy a prebuilt next time

>>58433502
>1300 mega giga Hz
GOTTA GO FAST.
This is how you do it:
1. Choose desired speed, let's say 3000/3200.
2. Pick the cheapest 2x8GB kit, usually Corsair Vengeance LPX or G.Skill Ripjawd V.
3. Enjoy life.

>>58433687
It's a good time to buy RX 480. If you want something more expensive than than then wait for Vega or 1080ti.

>>58433713
Just wipe it off and it'll be fine.

>>58433756
There's blood on the actual CPU pins, not sure how to wipe it up without damaging the pins

>>58433764
bathe it in alcohol for a few minutes, it should fall off pins
if it doesn't work check on how to clean blood with chemicals
do not put it in before cleaning
1. it's very sticky
2. it's conductive

>>58433895
Like put the entire mobo into alcohol?

>>58433948
No, just take it in the bath with you

>>58433764
Use cotton wool or q-tips and alchol. It shoudnt be that hard to get out.

>>58433970
OK thanks

Hopefully this works or else I've bricked over $1000 in components

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>>58433613
>>58433630
Anyone?

>>58424592
What do you do that you can afford so much good stuff?

>>58426490
>MSI 480
>Overwatch 63-65
How? I've got the same card and play ultra at 1080p 60fps and only get 50 max temp

>>58433948
nah, poor it on it, get battery out beforehand
blood should wash off without effort

>>58434022
I'll tell you more, I played 144fps 1440p on 390 nitro and only got 55C temp in Overwatch.

>>58434074
How?

The MSI does not turn its fans on until it hits 60. Maybe use MSI Afterburner to turn the fans on before that or change the fan curve

Best air cooler for a 6500? I'm looking at either the Cryorig h7 or be quiet dark rock

Or does it not really matter in the long run?

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>>58433269

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4RNsvV
How decent this build is?
I can get it for 600$

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How the fuck do people manage to bend the pins in their motherboard CPU socket???

>>58434354

I'd get at least a 4gb GPU. Everything else is good.

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>>58434586
Thanks.
Mostly will be using it as everyday machine, not much for gaming, except maybe for RA2.
Any ideas if this build have issues running linux/mac?

Hi guys, I currently have an ECS H87H3-M motherboard and I've heard its not a good brand. Also having issues with it recently. I have three options to switch to based on my budget, it's the ASUS H81M-D, MSI H81M-P33 and Gigabyte H81M-DS2. I have an intel i5 4460 and im broke as fuck. These are within my budget. Which of these three should I pick to replace my motherboard. Thanks, help a poor anon out.

>>58434624

I don't see what issues it might have.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JMVBD3/gigabyte-radeon-rx-460-4gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-rx460wf2oc-4gd

>>58434176
locked chip doesn't need a powerful cooler, get the cheapest quiet tower cooler.

>>58424464
I do 3d renders on multiple programs. basically, I need a workstation.
Whats a good upgrade from a 2500K and a GTX 760?

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Whats the best budget AIO 1151 cooler so I can OC a i5 6600k?

I have a 212 Evo but I finally wanna upgrade to an AIO.

>>58434841
Deepcool or Lepa AIOs.

>>58434770
Wait for Zen, you might like the 8C16T version, if you can't wait get a 6700K or 6800K.
For the GPU wait for Vega, if you can't, maybe get a RX480 or GTX1070/1080/ti.

G4560 + RX470?

Yea or nay?

>>58434841
AIO is a garbage meme. Water cooling is only worthwhile when doing custom loops.

Get yourself a high end air cooler like Noctua NHD15 or Bequiet Dark Rock 3 Pro.

AIO ain't worth anyone's time.

>>58434102
sapphire has better fan curve?

>>58434954
Im a different person, I actually did go with the NH-D15 and threw it into a Define R5 for safe overclocking since I didnt want to deal with Pump failures of an AIO. apparently they are likely to break after 3 years. For peace of mind im sticking with AIR.

>>58434354
If it's for gaming get either the i3-6100 or i5-6500, the 6400 is shit.

>Last parts are out for delivery
>Want to go get breakfast and a fucking coffee
>Don't want to miss them
I need my fix.

>>58435243
it was -28C here recently, air helps to save on gas a bit

>>58434381
Putting the CPU in wrong or maybe screwing the heat sink like an asshole? I always worry I'm going to fuck that up.

Assuming I want to pick up the 6700k since the price difference to the 6600k is negligible here at the moment how does one make the z170 boards compatible without a 6600? am i shit out of luck?

>>58435434
Residential deliveries never come in the morning.

>>58435594
What the fuck are you even talking about, you make no sense..

>>58435598
It's 1PM here in the land that wants no Europe.

>>58435671
Whoops i meant the 7600k not 6700k

>>58433269-dude here
So, I made some research.
I could go for Asus Z170-A or Asrock z170 extreme 4. Both costs 150 usd.
On the other hand, I can buy Asus Z170-P or ASRock Z170 Pro4. Both under 120 usd. And I can spent the rest on better cooling system (otherwise I'll stick with my old Gammaxx 300).
So, what is the best solution for overclocked i5 6400?

>>58435775
BIOS upgrade, no idea if it's released though, guess manufacturers want to sell their Z270 boards first.
Also why not simply get the 6700K?

>>58435842
>why not simply get the 6700K?
Figured id just fork over the 10 bucks for the 7600k instead but really dont want to deal with the bios update problems that may be present so Ill probably pick up the 6600k instead.
its just that I havent read anything about a scratch build with a 7600k in a z170 yet.

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I was hoping to build my pc this weekend, all the parts were going to be here by then, but the flood in California delayed my graphics card. My case order also got canceled by ncix for using a VPN so I had to reorder it, which was bs.

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>>58424464
I think my hdd is about to die(it now loads everything much slower than before) and i wanted to get a bigger one anyway, so i'm going to replace it soon.
Please help me chose which one should i buy:
1.Seagate 7200 BarraCuda [ST1000DM010]
2.Toshiba P300 [HDWD110UZSVA]
3.Toshiba [DT01ACA100]
4.Seagate Barracuda [ST1000DM003]
5.WD Caviar Blue [WD10EZEX]
6.Seagate SV35 [ST1000VX000]
I found these ones in my local store, they are rather cheap and fit for my requirements(7200rpm,1tb).
My current hdd is Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS, it served me well since 2009 therefore i leaning to chose a WD10EZEX, but i see a shitton of negative reviews as well as positive, i'm kinda confused.
Also what are good programs to check hdd health? I've searched in gentoowiki and found nothing?

>>58433324
I'm in the never10 camp m8.

>>58434022
autismbuxx friendo.

>>58435966
i have a i5 7600k for a z170 motherboard.

i am currently dealing with a bios problem.

I think the solution is to put a skylake chip in first then update the bios to use kabylake.

>>58436051
>Seagate

Never ever.

>>58436114
I hope you didn't """"upgrade"""" from a 6600K to a 7600K.

What causes static discharge?
Do clothes have any danger to it? I don't have a carpet or anything in my room so I'm not sure how wary I should be about it when building.

>>58436335
just hold case metal every 1-3 minutes

>>58436357
Can I touch the PSU as well/instead if it's plugged in but not switched on?

I'm thinking of replacing my 280 with a 480. When's a good time to upgrade GPU? Is it worth upgrading now, or should I just wait another generation?

Can I put my laptop's HDD into my PC and get all of the files off it? Essentially like treating it as another storage drive instead of booting off of it.
Can I do that?

>>58436466
No you fucking moron, you have to show your hard drive deep into your asshole and write the data bit by bit with your tongue

>>58436478
My asshole doesn't stretch that far.

>>58436205
im upgrading from an 8+ year old Dell with a Q6600.

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>>58436499
There's an adapter for that

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Since it's a new year, should I wait to buy components to build my pc until new ones are out since older components will be cheaper?

>>58424464
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nqgCM8
Rate my build.

>>58436507
I'm moving on to that once I can get this 3.5 in there all the way.

>>58424464
Are hybrid drives just a big meme?

>>58436537
Better get the NH-D15 or a custom loop before the Kelvin Lake CPU melts your mobo.

>>58436703
Don't they have the same temps as Skymeme?

Noob here, why don't you guys wait for the 7th gen of Intel CPU to kick in? Won't it lower the prices of the older ones?

>Case finally comes
>No instruction manual
>Box of screws and other shit inside case in a cardboard box
>No fucking clue what to do
God help me

>>58436769
Lol no, Kaby Lake is basically a factory OC'd Skylake with higher temps.
You are very likely to reach 100°C on air @5GHz.
Some anon posted an article where a "famous overclocker" or whatever OC'd it on air and LN2 and on air the CPU was stable for some time at 99°C before a logical core failed, voltages were like 1.4-1.5.

Welp, I don't think the Dan Case A4 will ever come out, so should I just settle for the NCASE M1 instead?

>>58436080
Cool. What are you using?

If the case fan I bought is bigger than the one already in there, should I still get rid of it or leave it in there?

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>ASUS Z97i-PLUS Mini-ITX
>Intel i7 4790K
>G.Skill 16GB DDR3
>Gigabyte GTX 980
>Samsung 512GB 850 EVO Pro
>Seagate 5TB Barracuda
>Silverstone SX-600G SFX
>Silverstone RZV01B Raven Mini-ITX
>Steelseries 7G MX Cherry Black
>Steelseries Kana Black V2
>Yamakasi DS270 2560x1440p IPS 27"

How's my 2015 PC /g/? Anything to replace/update to keep fresh for the (((current year)))?

What do I put in the case first? The PSU?

>>58437022
No, you're dick goes in first.

>>58437022
The motherboard's I/O shield you autist. If this isn't bait, did you even watch any build videos at all before starting?

How much should I spend on a monitor for a gtx 1080?

Got some questions for you cunts:
1. Is there any solid estimate on when we'll see Zen + Vega, something better than "before Q2 2017"
2. Is there any idea on how power efficient this hardware will be? My idea is to build a small form factor powerhouse that's quiet and cool
3. Will motherboard manufactures make ITX versions of the AM4 motherboards we saw released at CES?
4. Will I just finally buy a new PC and regret it because Intel will release 10nm chips and Nvidia will release some crazy GPU to counter Vega?
5. Is investing in any hardware retarded because it's just going to be one upped within the year and then considered trash after three years?

I want to go with AMD just because Intel/Nvidia monopoly is cucking everyone, but if they fuck up and their hardware sucks up the electricity bill and heats up my room than I don't think I'll have a choice, thoughts?

>>58437136
$500-800 for a 1440p 144hz+ (Maybe G-sync) monitor.

What's the best way to ground yourself?

Have some questions about SSDs
I have 2.5in SATA SSD that I want to change for m.2 SSD, since m.2 seems a lot more comfortable/cleaner to use, without the 2 extra cables or taking up any space in the case
There seems to be a difference between the SSD types for m.2 connection, like some are SATA interface and some are PCIe interface, how to know which my motherboard supports and is there a big difference between the two

What coolers are comparable to Noctua NH-U12S, in terms of price, RAM & PCIE clearance, and height? The cooling seems kinda lacking for its price.

Is the backplate meant to the be most difficult and obnoxious part of building a PC?
I've been here for 25 minutes and it won't fucking stay in. Why are they still manafactured like this?

>>58437236
>we'll see Zen + Vega
Zen will come in feb/mar, some also say that ALL Zen CPUs will be launched, which makes sense considering all mobo type will be released.
No idea about Vega, though. My guess would be before Q2 2017. :^)
>Is there any idea on how power efficient this hardware will be?
More power efficient than Vishera for sure. The 8C16T version has a TDP of 95W, meaning we could see 4-6C CPUs in the range of 40-70W.
>ITX versions of the AM4
Research the chipsets, there's are two dedicated SFF versions.
>Intel will release 10nm chips and Nvidia will release some crazy GPU to counter Vega?
Intel's 10nm process has been stalled for now, that's why we are stuck with Kaby.
Nvidia will release the 1080ti, nobody knows what comes after.
>Is investing in any hardware retarded because it's just going to be one upped within the year and then considered trash after three years?
If you think like that you shouldn't buy any smartphone at all, they age faster than milk on a sunny day.
Invest as much as you need, don't overpay, but don't skimp on your parts, either.
Imho you can always invest on reuseable parts like PSU, case, HSF, etc. because you can keep that shit like forever if you buy quality parts.
Something like the newest EVGA, SeaSonic or Super Flower platinum or titanium with appropriate wattage should hold like 10+ years.
Case is timeless unless they change form factors (not going to happen) and HSF is good until the manufacturer dropps support.
For example Noctua will give you a free mounting kit for any cooler from 2005 and on, except the NH-L9i which is an Intel exclusive model.

>>58437558
Cheers for the reply. If they release a decent 4-6 core CPU that's <80w than I'll buy. If Vega can match the 1070 or even 1080 and get <150w average than I'll buy. And both of those things seem like they'll be achievable with the rumours and what not.

Do you think, provided the hardware is about that power efficient, that cramming it all into a SFF case with a decent heatsync, and a few case fans; would it stay cool and quiet even under load?

>>58437687
>If Vega can match the 1070 or even 1080
There has been a link floating around to some reddit post where someone (officially?) benched the 6900K + 1080 against a probably test sample of Zen + Vega and it was competitive.
The sample probably was the top of the line Zen + Vega and it matched the said Intel + Nvidia components with only losing out by 5-10 FPS.
Although no information on power consumption and %load have been given. Considering how efficient Zen and Polaris have become in comparison to Vishera and Fiji it's reasonable to assume similar results from final Zen + Vega.
>cramming it all into a SFF
Yes, otherwise AMD wouldn't offer SFF specific mobos. You probably won't get as good OC results, but at least the option is there, from what i now only A+B chipsets will be available for SFF, not X.

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The two ram slots on one side of my mb don't have clips. Is that normal or is the MB broken? Pic related

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zfJNBP

$700 Canadian budget for gaming. 16GB ram because it was cheap and I run 2-4 EVE online clients at once.

Thoughts?

>>58437964
Can you please take a more blurry picture anon?

So if kaby lake is sky lake just better binned and a couple pointless streaming capability updates would it be safe to build around skylake for cheaper?

Is there a skylake like the xeon 1231v3?
My next build I don't need much more than MORE FUCKIN USB PORTS

>>58437964

>>58438072
This, and make it larger while you're at it

>>58437240
>GTX 1080
>1440p

>>58432973

nope thats the latest thumb ball out there besisdes elecom

dont know why logi has been dragging their ass so long in putting a new one out

>Put heatsink clips into motherboard
>Tight as fuck fit, audible scratching
>Try and fit the pins in
>Three of them go in
>This last one won't go down
>Can't take out original pin thing from motherboard
Shit

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157742&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-VigLink2-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=8167422&SID=ixt7ub7a7t0035wt00053

any objections to this

How much of a difference will the direction of the CPU fan make?

>>58438361
pls

>>58438361
>>58438478
well if it will fucking blow hot air inside the case instead of outside, think about it for a second

>>58438524
Does the fan blow hot air away or suck cool air in?
If I do it toward my fan case the hot air will go through the I/O devices (HDMI, USB etc). Is that a problem?

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Heatsink fan snapped when putting it back in the position it came packaged in.
Will it still run fine or is it ded? The top bit still fits snug around the top.

>>58438808
I'd assume it won't be balanced and will make noise and eventually probably maybe end catastrophically

>>58438884
How much force do these things exert? How much do they vibrate?

>>58438897
I'm no expert, but that's the whole point of fans to vibrate etc as much as little so that they would make as little noise as possible so that they would be fucking expensive like Noctua and shit

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Would it be worth it to pick platinum over gold for a 650w psu, if the difference in price is about £18 (22usd)?

I could probably get away with 550w, for my build, but was curious, just in case I go with 650.

>>58438124
>would it be safe to build around skylake for cheaper?
Yes, especially in case you live in EU. There's no reason to choose Kaby Lake over Skylake unless you are a brandwhoring cuck.

>>58438002
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pTJTjc
Try to fit this into your budget, if you can't get only 8GB RAM and add another 8GB later.

>>58438908
The corner isn't directly mounted to the fan, it has these rubber things which attach to the fan so I'm not sure how it'll go.
Shoddy build quality though.

>>58439056
Either I don't understand this post or the blurry as shit photo, it looked to me like the whole "case" of fan is broken, therefore the fan isn't "squeezed" properly

>>58438808
Looks like the shitpile aka Freezer 13, those things don't sping like crazy, but imho it's still a gamble.
See if you can fix it with some superglue, should be fine.

How do I get risers out of a PC case? What screwdriver do you need?

>>58439152
unscrew them with finger or use a wrench ?

>>58439159
They're scewed down in there tight.

>>58439186
use a cloth or some shit to protect your kiddy fingers, or some kind of wrench

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>>58439089
It's Arctic Freezer 7.
The fan sort of sits on the back part using these rubber nub things.
Look at the corner in pic related.

>>58439132
What's the worst case scenario if I leave it in and try it?
Not against getting another not from Arctic but having to deal with cleaning the thermal paste off the CPU and doing it all again sounds like such a ballache.

has anyone used Kinguin?

Im about to attempt getting a Window 10 key, but I want to use Paypal and I dont have a clue how paypal works. If paypal is already connected to my bank account and debit card can i just ues paypal as the middleman without having any money in my paypal account? >.> i dont do enough shady stuff to know the power of paypal and bitcoin.

>>58438808
I'm getting a replacement off Amazon. I'll just stick the new fan on the heatsink and give them the snapped one.

I was planning on getting a Gigabyte B150 to pair with a I5 6500 but the faggot at the store didn't have the mobo in stock, so he gave me an Asus B150M-A instead, supposedly it was more expensive but he let it slip

did the guy just scammed me or what?

Need to head out for a few hours. What's the best way to leave the motherboard? It's got a heatsink on it so it won't fit in its anti-static bag.

>>58439663
in the case ?

>>58439537
Why are you buying Windows in the year of our lord 2017 you mongoloid

>>58439681
because im a Gaymur and i need to log in to the nsa so they know im a good citizen.

>>58424464
Thinking to take a new Pc in october, what are the best time to get best price.
Is CrossFire / Sli still a thing ? Like 2 RX480 for exemple ?

Also stupid question but I never find any real answer.
When We have 2 couple of diffrent ram. Must we put both side by side, or on the same color "track".
Sry fucked up english

>>58439722
that's not the deal, He's trying to tell you to don't pay for it.

>>58439782
>tfw all same coloured ram slots on motherboard
>don't know how to dual channel rams properly

>>58439782
No don't be an idiot

>>58439796
why not? i dont know anything about cracked versions and i dont want any unexpected bullshit.

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Most of this has been taken from logicalincrement. Ideally it should last me at least 4-5 years, is it good enough?

(I live in france so the actual cost is $1536.)

>>58439876
>optical drive
>only 8gb ram
put 2x8gb ram and don't buy internal optical drive, unless you REALLY use CD/DVD more than once a week (in current year)
there are external optical drives through USB

>>58439666
I didn't want it to touch the metal.

>>58439988
So your build will be suspended by strings from the ceiling ?

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>>58439906
Noted

Let's try this again.

Trying to pick a monitor but not sure which one. Here are the monitors I'm looking at:
https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG348Q/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236660
http://www.benq.us/product/monitor/xl2730z
http://www.benq.us/product/monitor/xr3501

Here's my build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FytpVY

I'm looking to build it once and not have to take it apart for a long time. It's mainly for gaming, and video editing.

>>58440046
also
>full tower
why
even further, do you really even need ATX board ? doesn't seem like you have plans on doing some crazy shit, why not opt for mATX and such case

Is buying a 970 stupid for 1080p 60fps gaming? Games as demanding as GTA V. Would be paired with a 3570K OCed

>>58440096
why 970 now, wouldn't 1060 be cheaper and possibly better ?

>>58440105
I was gonna buy a used 970 (ultra poorfaggot student). The 1060 starts at £220 and that's for the 3GB model too (I don't know why they made a 3GB card at all).

>>58440140
should work then

>>58440046
Get an SSD. Hybrids are shit.

>>58439818
download and don't activate it.
all you can't do is personalise your background/theme and get a watermark on your desktop.
paying for it weeds out the aesthetic cucks from the people who want it for games and software.

>>58440005
No but I haven't put the standoffs in yet.

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>>58440090
It's not going to do much beyond gaming, no.

Alright, here's hoping there's enough space with this tower.

I'm not very enthusiastic about getting an SSD, I think they're still way too expensive for what they are.

>>58440371
i made an install usb but it wont let me install it.

>>58440422
If you still haven't fucking left put the goddamn standoffs in 20 seconds you manchild

>>58440463
why not

>>58440453
Define C is a normal tower, there will be tons of space in there, take a look at Define Mini C

>>58440467
I left ages ago. There were already standoffs in the case and were screwed in too tight to get out by hand. I don't know what else to do.

>>58439814
Every second slot

X Y X Y Channel
1 2 3 4 Slot #

>>58440494
plumbers wrench

>>58440505
I don't have that.

>>58440503
Is this true every time ? what I hated that on the motherboard manual they were coded like 1A 2A 1B 2B or some shit and I don't know wether to look at numbers or letters
Also I still only have one stick, only were planning on buying another one later since the fucking prices are so high now, wanted to know for the future

>>58440472
woops. probably because i forgot a step.

https://youtu.be/6uRT-bWE2EQ

i didnt hit custom.

how does the cpu cooler work? does the fan blow cool air into the heatsink or blow warm air out of the heatsink?

do you need a special kind of cloth to clean the cpu/heatsink of thermal paste or will any sort of tissue work?

>>58440673
your CPU will be much hotter than the surrounding Air so unless you are in an Oven it will be blowing cooler air at a Heat Sink, which takes the heat of the CPU and spreads it over a large Surface Area so that it can more easily transfer the heat to the air the fan blows over it.

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>>58439818
>>58440046
>>58440453
>no SSD
>overpriced HDD
>shit 1070
>bronze PSU
>(((GAMING))) mobo
TOPLEL. Make sure to add some LEDs to increase your FPS.

>>58440770
you don't "need", but something would work better instead of toilet paper that I use

>>58440770
paper towel and rubbing alcohol works well.
the cleaner the surface the better.

>>58440673
thanks
i didnt know which way to point the heatsink in. in the end i pointed it towards the back but my usb/hdmi shit was there and i didnt know if it would fuck that stuff up at all.

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>the radiator doesn't fit in the top of the case

which fuck ever said rads are """""easier"""" to install

now I have to get """"""""low""""""" profile ram fuck it all

>>58441068
>top of the case
>low profile ram
???

>>58441084
https://youtu.be/moJbyLbyGFA?t=4m4s

>>58441092
shit case planning then I guess

>>58441112
shit case planning to ever buy anything with the corsair name

the h100i v2 is also really fucking loud

What's good software to monitor temperatures and stuff?

>>58440797
name a better motherboard with ALC1150 and overclocking performance

>>58441271
speccy

>>58441364
virus

>>58441414
botnet*

I need a new

>mobo
>psu
>cpu

My mobo (z87-ud3h) is shitting itself.

currently have

>z87 ud3h
>i7-4770k

Not really looking for an upgrade as such, it's just that my mobo is currently shitting itself and I cant find any compatible with my cpu.

Are 'high end' mobos just memes or what

>>58441364
Does it give realtime temperatures or just a snapshot?

>>58441422
>mfw one guy memes speccy on /g/ to spread his insane virus

>>58441299
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170M%20Extreme4/?cat=Specifications
Or simply get the one you had listed before your meme mobo.

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>>58441429

>>58441463
Thanks.
What's the highest temperature a CPU goes to usually? What sort of temp should I want to see when it's not doing anything?

>>58439648
Anyone?

>>58441482
No idea what's the highest, it's my new build and I didn't have time to fuck with it a lot, not that I even care for that matter
Idle temps are best when they're close to ambient(room) temperature, like shown in my picture, but it all depends on your case, your cpu, your cooler etc